The Waiting Game

We are waiting, we are waiting, oh yeah, oh yeah
Waiting for someone to come out of somewhere

We should have had a new head coach announced on Monday, but all we heard were crickets. This can only mean one of two things:

1. The rock-paper-scissors game has now become the best 200 out of 300.


2. The 49ers are floating as many names past the public as possible, in order to find out which choice is the most popular one with the fans.

If they knew who they wanted, they would have either hired him by now, or waited for him to become available without this parade of interviews. I suppose it’s possible they’ve just been turned down over and over again, which would be surprising. What guy wouldn’t want to work for a dysfunctional franchise, run by a cheap, petty, little boy, that expects Super Bowl victories every year or sends out nasty Tweets of displeasure during the season. A real plum job.

So far, we’ve heard the Niners really like Rex Ryan (hired by Buffalo on Monday), and really like Josh McDaniels (decides to stay with Patriots on Monday), and Jim Tomsula is a Trent Baalke favorite, but hasn’t had a formal interview yet, and Vic Fangio was the first interview, two weeks ago, for six hours, …

The latest hot Niner favorite is Broncos’ OC Adam Gase. Some think he will be hired today. If so, many will think WTF! Gase runs an entirely different offense than the players we now have are suited for. If Gase ran the Denver offense at all. John Elway doesn’t want him, preferring to try and lure Gary Kubiak away from Baltimore.

Vic Fangio seems to be the leader in the clubhouse for fallback option. “Hey, Vic, you’ll be a great choice if we can’t find anyone else.” Except Fangio is reported to be leaving if he doesn’t get the job or Mike Shanahan isn’t the HC. What a mess.

But, stay tuned, Niner fans. We know what we’re doing!

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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s the list of confirmed interviews for the 49ers head-coaching job:

    Vic Fangio, 49ers defensive coordinator, interviewed Tuesday, Dec. 30
    Dan Quinn, Seattle defensive coordinator, interviewed Tuesday, Dec. 30
    Mike Shanahan, ex-Washington, Denver, L.A. Raiders coach, interviewed Thursday, Jan 1
    Adam Gase, Denver offensive coordinator, interviewed Friday, Jan. 2
    Josh McDaniels, New England offensive coordinator, interviewed Saturday, Jan. 3
    Rex Ryan, ex-New York Jets coach, interviewed Sunday, Jan. 4. HIRED by Buffalo Bills, Sunday, Jan. 11
    Teryl Austin, Detroit defensive coordinator, interviewed Thursday, Jan. 8
    Todd Bowles, Arizona defensive coordinator, interviewed Friday, Jan. 9

    Two names not on the list that Chuck has been championing, Pep Hamilton and Pete Carmichael. Hmmmm….

  2. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    It’s fun to be in your head,Skeebs. Lonely and dark, but fun. Still rooting against your supposed team?

  3. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Gase has an interesting choice today: which imploding franchise do I want to practice my coaching skills with.

  4. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Highly rated Texas A&M left tackle Cedric Ogbuehi tore his ACL. So we know one of Baalke’s upcoming draft picks already.

  5. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah I love it when the boss sucks. It gives me joy to no end to watch bozo dismantle the business. I like it a lot. You don’t? You’re no fan. See here in ostrichland everything the boss does is good no matter what. King walks down the street in his birthday suit I’m the first one yelling “Nice clothes! Your majesty”. Great great great. I’m in happyland and it’s really great.

    You won’t join me? You are obviously detached from reality. Get happy! Well nice visiting ya over here again. I gotta go now but I’ll be back real soon. Gotta go be happy all the time.

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Mike Silver posted this
    “I’m told word in coaching circles is 49ers DC Vic Fangio now wants out of SF unless he gets HC job… or Mike Shanahan does.”

    So Fangio will stay if they hire Shanahan. That’s interesting.

    I’m not sure about Gase based on how the Broncos have failed against the Seahags in their last 2 meetings which is the Niner roadblock to success.
    I think the decision might be based on what Baalke can determine on how much of the offense Gase was responsible for as most purport Manning was the real OC and had control of what was going on in Denver.

  7. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    LOL, yeah draft that guy, stash him for a couple years, I’m happy with that

  8. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Enough shit York hire Fangio before the rest of the wheels fall off this jalopy. Yer makin’ it hard to keep up the happy happy. Damn I was really lovin’ trashing all them unhappy people out there. Them so called Niner fans who aren’t, you know, happy.

    Hey nice suit

  9. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs- Just read the new post and have to admit you got me laughing and I am still on my first cup of coffee. I conjure up images of a mean nasty little kid with no clue and evil intent that no one on earth would want to work for. Hope that’s not the case but thanks for the laughs.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The strategy of drafting an injured player works when you have a stacked roster and end up cutting draft picks.
    The current roster doesn’t offer the flexibility in doing this
    unless the player is still on the board in the 5th round or later. This might be a thing of the past.
    I also don’t see this Niner team allocating the 4 extra roster spots to special team guys. Maybe 4 spots if you say K, P, DS and 1 ST guy. The days of Osgood, Ventrone, and Costanzo are over. You actually have to have value to the team by playing another position and contributing. Ventrone never saw the field as a S and Constanzo never lined up as a LB.

  11. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Glad to see you still have a sense of humor, Winder. I think there’s a good chance we’ll need one in the time ahead.

  12. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Bullitt, I still think that the team is not at all what it was a couple of years ago. Between age, injury and performance, it’s now a series of question marks at almost every position. In such a case, you’ve got to get the best players you can, who can help now. I would stack the board, and take the Best Player Available in the first four rounds, almost without exception.

  13. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t kid yourself Grump. This team still has talent. It needs speed. The defense looks to be pretty solid. They just have to be a little more lucky than last year with all the injuries. All this talk about no one wanting to come here is utter horseshit. This is a talented team that underperformed wildly on offense.

    BPA works for me though. Provided it is a WR, DL, or OL. Then CB. Repeat as necessary. With 9 picks, we should be in good shape. Baalke needs a solid draft this time around.

    Don’t worry about the rest. Skeebs is already blaming this season on next season’s coach.

    I mean why else crow about thinking Buffalo will have a better record than the Niners when it just happened?

  14. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I have no idea what you’re talking about, Chuck, which is actually less hurtful to my brain than when I do understand your gibberish.

  15. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, what I don’t get about the Kawasaki piece you posted is that (as Kawakami had always done) points the finger of blame squarely at Harbaugh.

    Do you agree with that? I mean, Harbaugh is In charge, therefore the shortcomings fall on him. Rightly so. But I still think Harbaugh had plenty of opportunity to switch out his OC these past few years. It was his sticking with him that irked me.

    Kawakami is wrong. If anyone has used Roman as a scapegoat, it was Harbaugh himself. It got Harbs to Michigan.

  16. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Figures. You didn’t know buff had a better record than the Niners this year when you boasted of buffalo doing better than the Niners next year.

    Otherwise, why bring it up? Think much?

  17. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I didn’t boast about anything, Chuck. I merely pointed out, while you were cackling about what a dud job the Buffalo one was, that they had a better record this year than the Niners. And might next year as well. You have taken those remarks and twisted them three or four different ways so far, each one hilariously inaccurate. I can only conclude you have no comprehension of English and no ability to express a coherent thought.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Roman has shuffled off to Buffalo

    He has one of 32 NFL OC jobs and he makes in one year what the apologist makes in 20 years.

    Why didn’t Roman go to Michigan? The NFL pays a helluva lot better.

  19. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Changing the coach is always the answer. Especially for folks who don’t know anything else.

    How many times have I read “We’ll know whether it was Roman’s or Harbaugh’s fault when we see what they do now ?”

    The answer for these folks is to go out and hire the first fired coach looking for a job because he must be better than what we had? Or the first coordinator on a winning team who has no experience as a head coach, because he will certainly have a better idea of what to do when half his team is out with injuries. The flawed logic there is so hard to see?

    I could make a list of some of the greatest coaches of all time who failed at their next post but the folks who believe a good coach instantly makes any team win a super bowl and anything short of that is proof that he stinks at this coaching business wouldn’t understand the point.

  20. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The highest level of football that Gase played was high school.
    He never played at any level in college and obviously never in the NFL.

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    When 49ers released Ray McDonald they immediately took a $4 mil cap hit per Kevin Lynch.

  22. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Again, NoFear what should Jed and co have done that would have made you happy? I mean besides give Teflon Mike another shot.

    Bill Walsh was a 3rd string TE in a div 2 school (SJ St). So? Belichick played lacrosse and squash on college for Gods sake.

    Greg Cosell never played football at any level yet you grovel at his feet, Bullitt. Why is that? Convenience is a birch, cherry picker.

    You guys contradict yourselves so much every day, your heads are spinning.

  23. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    10 million words, NoFear, and you never answer the question.

    What should the brain trust have done?

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Belichick played football at Wesleyan College.

    You just like to put down well repected professionals like Ira Miller, Greg Cossell and Brent Jones on the simple criteria that they don’t agree with your viewpoint. That explains a lot.

    In Chuck’s world ignorance is bliss.

  25. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, it’s amazing that you think you can come on here with your insults and demanding an answer in the same sentence. It speaks to your level of intelligence and maturity.

    I’ve answered that question dozens of times yet you always find some way to inject your vitriol and argue invectives instead. That’s what trolls and bratty punk kids do.

    Everyone must agree with you? Why? You’re usually wrong. If you’re for something the best bet is to be against it.

    Every time I write something that you will read I feel like I should be using crayons and pictures. My solution to this season’s failure was for Kaepernick and his coaches to work harder on his skills and get him up to speed if possible and two, work to get as many FAs back as possible and hope the injury bug doesn’t hit as hard next year. If Kaepernick can’t cut it, replace him and/or go back to the run-first team of the playoff years.

    Do you understand that? I’ve written the same for months. You’ve seen it, you’ve argued with it and you’ve insisted there was nothing wrong with Kaepernick. Yet you and all those singing that tune are now happy to see Kaepernick get some help with his QBing skills. And you’re still asking what I’d do. Funny, no?

  26. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here is the latest version of Greg Cossell on KNBR from his weekly appearance yesterday with Tom Tolbert.
    Listen and some just might learn something

  27. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah and Chuck keeps talking about 2012 and why The Niners didn’t replace Roman. In 2012 The Niners went to the Super Bowl and were 5 yards and 4 downs from winning it. What Chuck fails to mention is the Niner offense ranked 11th in the NFL and not the BS hyperbole that they absolutely sucked. You talk about knee jerk reactions?
    Also what Chuck does not further explain is the following year under their new OC Jim Caldwell the Ravens finished 8-8 and out of the playoffs and finished 29th in the NFL in total offense. It swings both ways.

  28. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Jesus, still no answer, NoFear. Another 10,000 words no less.

    What you lemmings fail to understand is the defense has been carrying this team, plain and simple. Smash mouth is all well and good if you can control the ball and convert 3rd downs. And score.

    This offense still struggles with the same issues as before.

  29. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    5 yards? 5 miles?
    Too bad they get couldn’t get that play in on time.

  30. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If I’ve been advocating replacing Roman for 2.5 years, that doesn’t quite qualify as a knee-jerk reaction.

    So, I’ll put you all down for the fact that Jed should have rewarded Harbaugh with a 5 year extension at $8 mill per (and kept Roman) despite finishing behind Buffalo this year.

  31. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Aren’t you embarrassed that in the history of the NFL Kaepernick is the only QB who’s started all 16 games and has failed to throw a TD pass in the 4th quarter?
    The Niners were only going to go as far as the QB was going to take them. No team can win with a QB that produces 6 points a game and plays even worse against our hated rivals the Seahags having turnovers outnumber TDs by almost 4 to 1 (11 turnovers 3 TDs).
    You’ve been making excuses for almost 2 years but after a while when you are so repetitive you might come to realize what the problem truly is.
    Harbaugh/Roman’s big error was putting all their faith in Kap and not having a plan B. They might as well have gone through the season with one QB because they created a situation where there was no competition at the QB spot.

  32. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jerry Jones just gave Garrett a contract for 5 years at $30 mil.
    That’s $1 mil more than the Niners were paying Harbaugh and Chuck was squawking that the NFL wouldn’t take kindly to giving Harbaugh a raise.
    Oh yeah I forgot, Chuck doesn’t blink when Jerry can spend $300K a night on hookers and booze. What did Garret do to earn a raise?
    He won one wild card game.

  33. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Hello doctor? This is the therapist’s office right? Yeah I’m here again for my daily appointment. I’m not sure if I’m making progress or not but let’s keep trying. It sure is hard getting other people to change but I can hope.

    Not sure why all those people come to your office doc but they sure do. Me I’m here to change them. To my point of view of course. Me I love therapy doc. You do a hell of a job doc. I figure I’ll keep selling my stuff and hope they see the light. And stop laughing, that would be nice.

    Sometimes when I hear the same answer over and over I have to wonder what’s wrong with them. It’s them with the problem isn’t it doc? Isn’t it doc? Doc? Doc?

  34. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    No Bullit it would be wrong to give Hendrix a raise for taking the sad sack 6-10 Niners to a SB. Wrong I tell you. Wouldn’t want to give the wrong impression that he had something to do with our turnaround. I say punish him instead, harshly. I say to hell with the playoff wins, the NFCCG appearances.

    Yeah to hell with winning. We got a new stadium don’t we? Pay the coach? Are you crazy?

  35. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So you use Jerry jones to support your argument?

    Case closed, skippy. You are so silly.

    Phil, I’m glad to see you trying to work things out.

  36. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    What did your sources, Miss Cleo tell you today on the psychic hotline?

  37. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    It’s their fault doc, right?

  38. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Baalke is flying home without a new coach today. Gase is now meeting with the Broncos, who are hauling in this year’s Rooney Rule favorite, Teryl Austin, to enable them to sign somebody else.

  39. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Anybody else notice that Chuck’s comments are getting increasingly insane with each passing day? Trouble is, I can’t tell if he’s deteriorating or achieving new heights of Chuckness. Bears watching.

  40. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks for update Skeebs, didn’t see that elsewhere. Not surprising we can’t/don’t/won’t win a bidding war against Elway = see the Peyton Manning follies for us getting outbid by the Stanford grad. Gassy to HC Bronks, figures of course.

    And Balkey comes home from his big trip to Denver empty handed. So who’s he going to hire now that 10 coaches have laughed in his face? Or behind his back? None of them want to work for him or the Tweetmeister. Gassy would be a horrible choice with his zero running game O.

    So to continue the implosion of our favorite team I say York goes with Tomsula as HC forcing the departure of Fangio and the Defense. Yeah that’s what I’m expecting. Way too rational to make tough guy Vic the HC. Couldn’t do that, no way.

    Wonder what Miss Cleo sez?

  41. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Anybody else notice that Chuck’s comments are getting increasingly insane with each passing day?”

    Oh is that who’s hanging around the office badgering everyone, ranting nonsense, demanding agreement with lunacy and honking down handfuls of meds? I had no idea, pay little attention to the ruckus in the waiting room.

    Could be. I’m keeping an eye on it with the thought that should this prove to be more than the usual personality disorder and it is actual mental breakdown heading towards danger to self or others I may have to whip out my 5150 card and send the client to hospital for sedation.

  42. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Fangio looks like a reasonable choice because it is supposed he will keep the defensive coaches and scheme the same. Albeit he may be missing a few key players and coaches anyway. Keeping Harbaugh in place would have essentially guaranteed that much. So the best we can hope for now is to break even on the defense, without the coordinator who managed it, and hope a first-time head coach from the defensive side can do better than a proven winner with the offense?

    I’m not sure how many teams are looking to hire a head coach but I’m pretty sure none are demanding a super bowl win in the first year and none are restricting the possibilities of coaching the players one wants in the schemes one wants to hang his job and career on as much as the Niners are. It’s almost like who wants a coach who’s willing to coach under this FO now?

    Sorry, Chuck, no crayons.

  43. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh has hired his son Jay off the Ravens coaching staff to be his TEs coach at Michigan.

  44. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Solari and Rathman might be joining Roman in Buffalo, depending how the Niner HC search ends.

  45. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Jets are hiring Todd Bowles as their HC.”

    Think Arizona might want Fangio if he splits?

  46. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Train wreck in progress. Stay tuned Miss Cleo is calling fer Tomsula

  47. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So glad you guys are lining up to pray that this team fails.

    So much for open mindedness.

    I guess I should doom it up and laugh at the fact that Denver hasn’t signed a coach but they are outspending us. Or that a couple guys I named a while ago aren’t coaches.

    Face it. All you do here is post articles and report shit others have said. And take potshots at someone who doesn’t parrot the morons in the local media while patting yourselves on the ass.

    Crayons, NoFear? Can you manipulate a rattle? I said Fangio 2 months ago before Harbaugh was gone. Now its the reasonable choice?

  48. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs there’s a good chance LeBeau joins Arians in AZ now that Bowles appears to be the new NYJ HC.

  49. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shit, if I leave, all there will be is you guys pining for me. That and posts like “Jets signed Bowles.”

  50. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Curious why Fangio is lobbying for Shanny & Son too?
    What’s the connection?

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    With talk of Solari being sought in Buffalo, that might suggest that a new Offensive scheme might not fit his current system?
    Obviously there’s a working partnership with Roman.
    Where did you see/hear of Rathman possibly departing Skeebs?

  52. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Broncos will go with the guy Peyton wants if he decides to come back. In this case money will not be the major factor.
    As usual the apologist has it wrong.

  53. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s likely the sticking point for Gase Bullit.

    Does he stick for a possible return of Peyton?
    There’s certainly a continuity thing with that approach.

    Problem is, Peyton is a short-term proposition.
    Sure, money could be better in Denver, depending on the seriousness of Elways’ commitment to the future there, beyond Peyton.

    However, what’s out there after Peyton?

    How solid will the Staff be there, vs what he needs to consider a jump to SF?

  54. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This is on Elway now.
    He needs to think beyond Peyton.
    For Gase, it’s a comfort thing.
    He knows the Offense, the personnel etc.

    Curious to see how this shakes out.
    If the Fangio/Shanny reports are true, we may fall back in that direction simply for our own continuity?

  55. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NBC Sports is reporting that Atlanta wants Quinn as their HC.
    The dominos are falling all around the Niners.

  56. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Actually NBC Sports is reporting Quinn wants to land in ATL as their coach. That means Falcons have to wait until Seahags are done.

  57. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    They need more on Defense in ATL Bullit, not hard to ignore that aspect.
    What’s the connection between Fangio and Shanny, any idea?

  58. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not convinced Elway wants Peyton back. Peyton’s unsure himself whether he will or will not continue to play and will remain so for some time yet. I strongly believe a difference in opinion on Peyton is why Fox is gone. Which person wanted to keep him will remain one of life’s great mysteries, like: is that bearded fat guy in the back seat of the car on Animal Planet’s “Finding Bigfoot” really the Bigfoot they keep looking all over the country for?

  59. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Life mysteries are multiplying daily RT 😀
    This is getting interesting.
    Would love to have heard the discussions between Trent and Gase today.

    Pretty obvious what direction we’re leaning in.
    Offense, Offense and more Offense.

    Maiocco was suggesting that there’s contingency plans to look at Dennis Allen if they can lure Gase.

  60. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I’d love to have LeBeau as DC. He may be my favorite DC in the league (Rex is right up there too). The guy runs blitzes out of that 3-4 they haven’t even invented yet. Every time other teams figure out his gambling style, he comes up with a whole new scheme. He’s a nightmare for opposing OCs and has been for years.

  61. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I like LeBeau as well RT.
    Problem is, he’s likely headed to AZ, to reunite with Arians.
    He’ll be our headache to deal with now.

  62. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    With our O-line? Oy vey. Frank’s gonna be a busy man should he stay.

  63. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Blitzburgh comes to the NFC West.
    Kaep better study well down there at EXOS.

  64. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    AZ’s got PatP at corner. They are already free to drop a safety. With Lebeau? Double oy vey. Shutdown corners have their advantages.

  65. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Well if the rumors are valid, Quinn could be leaving Seattle.
    Our Division is going to be even tougher, if LeBeau joins Arians.

    QBs could be the difference in this one.
    Kaep has to learn to get the ball out quicker.
    All depends on how we address the Offense I think.

  66. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I still say both lines, especially offense, a big priority. Secondary and replacement LBs next.

  67. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    With Harbaugh and Roman gone, I expect our TE fetish is gone. I still believe Kap can return to his earlier form; I’m not bailing on him. I don’t see any other pressing O needs. O line!

  68. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d have preferred to see our TEs more involved in the passing game RT.
    Majority of their roles were utilized more in the running game.
    RBs and TEs are typically useful for blitz pick up but, can also break blitzes if they can get separation quickly.

    Much to come, as we figure out where this Offense is headed, after the HC is identified.

  69. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Would love to have heard the discussions between Trent and Gase today.”

    Really? I have the goods:

    Balkey: You’re our top man Gassy now that 16 other top candidates have laughed in our faces. We’re getting desperate and want you to teach Kap and the whole O another kind of O. Your kind. The kind that gets 6 points in the playoffs and 70 yards rushing in 2 games against SEA. That’s what we want around here. Rushing? Don’t worry about it we’re going for class and pass pass pass. You think Manning will come too? We know you’ll turn Kaepernick into Manning so don’t sweat it, eh teach? And Super Bowl wins no problem huh? By the way how is your pants dropping routine?

    Gassy: No thanks I’m not interested in joining the circus. Elway has got you beat with the money as usual. Forget it.

  70. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    LMFAO Phil 😀

    What’s funny is, Gase is now in the drivers seat, unless Elway isn’t serious about retaining him.
    For a guy that technically just the green light to shop his services, Peyton can put him in a bind of sorts.
    I definitely don’t think there will a bidding war for an unproven HC by either side.

    All depends on how Gase sees his future playing out beyond Peyton.

    Could come down to Kaepernick vs Osweiler?

    Good Laugh Phil.

  71. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Not to mention, if Fangio and Denver are serious about Shanny Sr, he too could play SF against Denver.

    I’d read recently that Fangio wanted Kyle as his OC.
    Where the H3LL did Mike come into this?
    Is Fangio suggesting he’s only going to stay on as DC if they hire the Shanny Duo?
    Seems contradictory no?
    Fangio ‘kinda’ wants the HC gig?

    This circus IS getting crazier by the day huh?

  72. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Still haven’t gotten an answer on how Fangio and Shanny Sr are connected?
    That came out of left field.

    Maybe Fangio wasn’t feeling wanted for the HC gig in SF, so he’s willing to remain with the Shanny’s?

    Doesn’t add up for me.

    Pressure tactic?

  73. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    What happens if Fox gets the Chicago gig?
    Does he attempt to pull Gase and other Staffers to Chi-Town?

  74. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, Fangio is a Shanahan fan through Kubiak and Kubiak’s bringing the Shanahan-inspired zone blocking running attack of Alex Gibbs to Houston (I’d guess).

    Could be he’d be willing to coach defense on a team he felt was in good hands through the Shanahans offense-wise if he wasn’t going to get the gig anyway.

  75. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yet another angle….
    Seeing as Gase was technically ‘relieved of his duties in Denver’, was Trent speaking with Gase about our HC gig or, a lateral move to OC in SF?

    Maybe Fangio is still in the mix and doesn’t want to work with Gase?

  76. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    OK NoFear49er, thanks.
    I couldn’t draw a connection between them.

    That had been my concern with Shanny, the Zone Blocking aspect.
    We’re not built for that as presently constructed.

    Would involve major changes up front.
    Not impossible I guess, considering Iupati is up for FA now.

  77. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Forgot about Kubiak and Houston.
    Remember Vic more for DC stints in Carolina and Indy.

    Makes more sense to me now.

    I still think the most seamless move would be to keep Vic inline for HC and look to a new OC.
    If he wants Kyle, so be it.

    But both Shanny’s, seems a little odd to me.

  78. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, I would not be happy to hear Shanahan is going to be the new head coach. And I don’t like the father HC/ son OC arrangement. I might have had hopes that he could help Kaepernick until the RGIII fiasco. I also can’t see Shanahan willing to give up so much control to come here.

    On the other hand I was never a big fan of Harbaugh. But he made it difficult with all the winning and players buying in.

    Rex would have been fun anyway. I think he’s a pretty good coach, too.

  79. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, that notion of Fangio HC and Gase OC is a perfect storm scenario for Fangio to get the boot early amid questions of the offensive output being sabotaged to facilitate the change. It stinks just thinking about it.

  80. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er I can’t understand the dynamic either.
    Granted, Shanny Sr wasn’t high on my list either, simply because we’re dealing with another RG III-type ourselves.

    Changing to a Zone Blocking scheme worries me too.
    Now that Fangio is getting ruffled makes things all that much more complicated.

    I agree with your assessment regarding a perfect storm as well.
    It’s a layup for conflict.

    Having Kyle and Vic seems odd too, in the Zone Blocking sense as well.
    I don’t know what to think at this point?

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe we should make a serious run at Quinn?
    It’s being reported that he’s got his eye on Atlanta though.

    Might be a little risky to hold out hope for him and, have him decline out of respect to Seattle or something.

    The Fangio reports just might have torpedoed the Good Ship 49er?

  82. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Given a possible choice of Gase or Kyle, I’d lean toward Gase for Kaep.
    Now that Fangio has rebuffed that scenario, all bets are off perhaps?

    I actually wonder if the push for Gase was a lateral proposal?
    Not crazy about him as a 1st time HC option either.

  83. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hard to believe much of anything put out for public consumption with teams jockeying for interviews. It would be hard enough to keep up with if it were all in earnest.

    I just hope we don’t play the game so long “all the good ones are gone.”

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I know.
    It’s hard to take any of this nonsense seriously.

  85. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Maiocco was reporting that they have a possible contingency plan for DC with Dennis Allen in the event Gase comes aboard.

    That scenario doesn’t excite me in the least.
    Bringing the AFC West into the NFC West doesn’t exactly translate into an improvement in my book, though Oakland did beat us this year.

  86. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis Allen AND Gase? Nothing like going from damn good to worst when you insist on Super Bowl wins as the bar for coaching. Sounds like a total lack of adult leadership. Oh, yeah, it is.

  87. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe they’re enjoying the interview process just a little TOO much?

  88. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, we might be closing in on Gase, anyway. Dennis Allen? Ouch.

    There are about 20 guys I’d take over Dennis . . .

  89. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    . . . including the banished one . . .

    What happens now is going to be very interesting. Some of the underlings have left, like Reggie Davis, Greg Jackson and some assistant trainers and such, but for now the big guns are still here and under contract.

    Mike Solari is interviewing in Buff for his same spot.

  90. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And, since the line’s decline seemed to coincide with the departure of Tim Drevno, you have to wonder how keen the braintrust would be on keeping Solari.

    I’d hate to see the coaching corps disemboweled at this point, but this very well could happen.

    Fangio is the big domino right now. I’d hope the Niners are looking to extend him in a pretty big way. I mean with all that money they saved not paying Harbaugh.

  91. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Last night’s rant from the apologist
    “Face it. All you do here is post articles and report shit others have said. And take potshots at someone who doesn’t parrot the morons in the local media while patting yourselves on the ass.”

    Today you quote Niners Nation and post a link? I suppose it’s OK for you to do things you criticize everyone else for doing the same.

  92. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gee, someone actually turned his brain on this morning. Maybe you are starting to get my humor. Then again, I doubt it. Needle, meet haystack. Blind squirrel, you just tripped over a nut.

    Yes, just as it’s ok for you to whine incessantly about people that have actual opinions that they form on their own and not read and call their own and lambaste them for having.

    It’s actually relevant news. You post things like the nifty tools used to install and remove seats from the new stadium. The mind boggles.

  93. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Fangio is one of the top two highest paid DCs in the league.
    In 2008 Steve Spagnola of the Giants was the highest paid DC in the NFL at $2 mil a year when he signed a new contract.
    I would guess Fangio is making $2.5 to $3 mil a year which is what the lowest paid HCs make.
    How do you justify giving a DC a bump when you weren’t willing the give the HC anything?
    You want to talk dysfunctional?

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Intelligent posts by you that Dallas had the fix and was guaranteed a clear path to the Super Bowl?

    Naturally you are the filter to determine what’s relevant.
    It’s just a step below North Korea.

  95. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    FYI Rex Ryan just had an introductory press conference

    Rex went out of his way to say:
    “Never seen a guy criticized more than Greg Roman for going to three championship games … We have the exact same philosophy.”

  96. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If the Niners do hire Gase this just posted article might make you feel better.

    Now Fangio is taking a non-committal stance if Gase is hired.
    He might be convinced to stay if he’s given almost total control of the defense.

  97. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Another thing to consider with Shanahan and Fangio is, how many years is Shanahan really up to coaching? Two or three more? I can’t see him coaching for the next 5 or 10 years at his age. So Fangio would still have a shot in a few years to move up. And Shanahan might shake out Kappy’s issues in the meantime.

    Personally I think Baalke will not choose Shanahan as he is too likely to have his own ideas about personnel. I think if Gase turns us down, he’ll give it to Tomsula or Fangio.

  98. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You read my blog, skippy. What I said, which came to pass, was that gb would beat Dallas. Turns out that game came down to a controversial call. Funny, no?

    It isn’t a matter of who they want. That changes weekly, but who will draw the biggest ratings. The NFL wanted gb/Dallas over gb/Detroit. And they really wanted Seattle/gb to play up the replacement game. Like Donaghy in the NBA, this isn’t wholesale fixing, merely influencing certain calls at critical junctures. This isn’t a vast conspiracy, but merely the league trying to bend the outcomes to suit their advertisers. Ratings are king. This is entertainment.

    I’m sure the powers that be wanted a Super Bowl rematch, but Indy prevailed. There is only much that can be influenced.

  99. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Wow, Chuck is now plagiarizing RTF’s comments and discarding his own simplistic “hookers and blow” concept. Wonder if RTF feels violated or endorsed. And which would cause greater pain?

  100. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Grump, if Mike Shanahan is even an option, I’d be hard-pressed to think of a worse idea. Mike Nolan? Especially if Shanny drags his son with him. The only more ridiculous idea would be for the Raiders to hire him. I’d be very surprised if Shanny gets hired for any of these open positions.

    RTF? Hookers and blow is still a valid premise. The problem is, Jerry’s needs don’t jive with the NFL’s all the time. They were in step for a bit, but their paths diverged. Sorry, Jerry.

    I find it funny that you guys don’t think that the VP of Officiating partying with an NFL owner is that big a deal. Yet, Rathman apparently gives the lowdown on the sly to Brent Jones as to how much film study our QB does, and you guys swallow that up with absolutely no first or second hand knowledge.

    Christ. And you wonder why I question your veracity.

  101. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’m about 90% sure it’s going to be Gase,

  102. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And since you love my posts so much:

    According to a story by the New York Times’ Bill Pennington in 2014, Gase has been called a “genius” by John Elway, the Broncos GM and former Super Bowl-winning quarterback. Head coach John Fox – fired this week in Denver – called Gase a “master of innovation.” And Broncos QB Peyton Manning says he’s “the smartest guy I know.”

    He’s been praised by former 49ers head coach Steve Mariucci, who gave him his first coaching job in the NFL, and by former NFL offensive wiz Mike Martz, for whom he worked with the 49ers.

    Yeah, screw that guy. Who needs innovation when we can have ground chuck?

  103. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    See Chuck
    See Chuck Spin
    Spin Chuck Spin
    Chuck is dazed and confused from too much spinning

    an old ball coach characterized Chuck this way

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Raiduhs are about to hire the last 2 defensive coordinators of the Broncos

  105. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    As usual, you post inanities Bullit. Swallow, Bullit, Swallow.

    Gulp gulp gulp.

    There’s more at the door.

    How about saying what you think about Gase? Or who they should hire, instead on bemoaning the loss of St. Jim?

  106. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Raiduhs are about to hire the last 2 defensive coordinators of the Broncos to be their Head Coach in Dennis Allen and Del Rio

  107. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I talked about who they should hire a week ago.
    Gotta work on your reading comprehension.

    Unlike your candidates Pep and Pete who didn’t get a sniff.

  108. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck if you would only learn to read I posted something about Gase at 9:31am.

    Time to suck on those toes as you put your foot in your mouth.
    You and Rex loves your foot. Hyuk!!!

  109. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So? At least I think about this rather than ride the coattails of others. Pep interviewed with 2 teams (Bills, Raiders), and Pete interviewed with the Bears. Since you are so good at sniffing, you should know that interviews with teams count as sniffs.

    You do understand that Hamilton will be an NFL coach soon. Maybe not this year, but next. Your stupidity and ignorance is no reason to put down my OPINIONS on who the Niners should hire.

    Mainly because everything you post has been written by somewhere else.

  110. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You and Rex love my foot?

    Is that supposed to mean something? FAIL!! You can’t even joke well.

    BTW, you don’t have a 9:31 post, skippy so I don’t know what you’re referencing.

    Do you think Gase would be a good fit here?

  111. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Which brings me to your point.
    You are inferring that you do not operate on second hand info which is a joke.
    I have asked you this before, do you have a press pass?
    Are you in the locker room interviewing players or coaches?
    If not shut up because you are dealing with second hand info just like the rest of us.
    With one exception, you put a North Korean filter on your info.

  112. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    “BTW, you don’t have a 9:31 post, skippy so I don’t know what you’re referencing.”

    I think the tin foil dunce cap is too tight on your head.


  113. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t rely on others opinions. I came up with Pep and Pete based on my knowledge of the game. It came out 2 weeks later that teams were interviewing them for potential HC spots. Get it? 2 weeks LATER.

    You must have a problem with time, skippy. Show me your 9:31 post, fumbduck.

  114. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Not only do you have reading comprehension problems but you can’t tell time.
    Can you insert both of your feet in your big mouth?

    bullit says:

    January 14, 2015 at 9:31 am

    If the Niners do hire Gase this just posted article might make you feel better. Maybe you have your North Korean Filter set on too high.

    Now Fangio is taking a non-committal stance if Gase is hired.
    He might be convinced to stay if he’s given almost total control of the defense.

    As usual the juvenile namecalling when he has no rebuttal.

  115. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You are having a really bad day Chuck. But you’re used to it.

    Are you telling a fib Pinocchio?

    Carmichael interviewed for the Bears job in 2013 (2 years ago).
    The Bears didn’t call him back this time. This isn’t gotcha but you have a tendency to not tell the truth.

    Carmichael has not been interviewed for any HC jobs in this cycle.

  116. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    A wise old boxer named Muhammed Ali said
    “The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.”

  117. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Huzzah! Long live the king!

    Let’s hear how bad a move this is, girls.

  118. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I can’t help it if you can’t read and tell time.
    Spin all you want but you continually make a jackass of yourself.
    I gave you a chance to recant but as usual you kept bullying because you had your head up your usual orifice.
    You insisted there was no 9:31am post and there was.
    Nobody interviewed Carmichael this time around as you “misinformed” everyone.

  119. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Still waiting for confirmation by Maiocco, Barrows or Branch.

    Big question will be Fangio’s next move and the 49er response if he leaves.

  120. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Schefter: “49ers set to promote DL coach Jim Tomsula to head coach, per sources. Still ironing out details, but Tomsula expected to be 49ers next HC.”

  121. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Schefter just tweeted That Tomsula will be promoted to Head Coach.

  122. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Schefter’s tweet courtesy of Mindi Bach CSN

  123. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    So long, Fangio. The destruction of a winning team is complete.

  124. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Not so fast.

    Cards are hiring LaBeau as a senior consultant and will promote a current assistant on staff to DC.
    There is still hope that Fangio can be convinced to stay.
    If not they could promote Mangini to DC.
    The concern should be who will they get to be OC?

  125. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, at 12:21: “Huzzah! Long live the king!

    Let’s hear how bad a move this is, girls.”

    Apparently, the king didn’t live any longer than it took you to put up your premature post.

  126. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Actually if they can’t convince Fangio to stay Plan B should be promote Donatell to DC before Mangini

  127. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve got nothing against Tomsula but this looks like a four or five year effort not a Super Bowl or bust move. Seems a lot like the Singletary w/Alex Smith scenario without the Super Bowl or bust pressure.

    Skeebers had it right, two weeks ago. Could’ve saved a lot of travel money but the PR machine must be fed.

  128. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Scramble also starts for the OC.
    Would Gase consider being the OC or do they scramble to get
    Trestman, Kyle Shanahan or Bill Callahan?

  129. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well if anyone knows premature, it would be you, Skeebs.

    Can’t say I like this at all. No one outside the building should be very happy with this.

    Who’s going to run the offense?

  130. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Barrows and Branch are confirming.

    Tomsula is liked by the players.

    Fangio almost certainly will leave.

    Who the heck will the two coordinators be, though?

  131. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If anything this makes you clowns look right. They couldn’t convince an outsider to join the team.

    This sucks. Unless they come up with someone to run the O that isn’t some sort of stiff/afterthought/retread.

    Hello Jimmy-Hat.

  132. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Kyle Shanahan? THIS Kyle Shanahan?

    “The Browns granted Kyle Shanahan his request to be released from his contract after one season with the team. Shanahan reportedly had grown dissatisfied because of a poor relationship between coaches and the front office. One example: A high-ranking team official texted his opinion on play-calling to the sideline during a game this season, the Plain Dealer reported.”

    He oughta be right at home in Baalkeville…

  133. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I can’t imagine a scenario where Tomsula is a better option than Fangio.

  134. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula has been a head coach, not so Fangio. Besides I can’t think Fangio’s ultimatum did him much good with the boy or Baalke.

  135. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Two names to replace Tomsula as the Dline coach with Niner ties
    Dwaine Board or Bryant Young.
    They should keep Leavitt as LB coach.

  136. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The adage might apply here.
    Just because you’re a superior coordinator Norv Turner or Mike Nolan doesn’t mean you’ll be a good head coach.

  137. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, that one game as HC gave Tomsula the big edge.

    This and now Shanny jr? Be still my heart.

    Time to join Dennis on the ledge.

  138. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If they are basing it on that, Bullit, them no one would ever work through the ranks to become a head coach.

  139. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “NFL source: Jason Tarver in line to join the 49ers as defensive coordinator; Marc Trestman a possibility as offensive coordinator.”

  140. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kawakami just said this
    “NFL source: Jason Tarver in line to join the 49ers as defensive coordinator; Marc Trestman a possibility as offensive coordinator.”

  141. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry Skeebs, I’m a minute behind you and we’re duplicating info.

  142. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Trestman?!?!?!? If Eddie has any input, I’d think he’d dissuade his nephew from that choice. Shanny Jr? I’ve got a bad feeling about this. I’m sure Jimmy Hat is rested and ready.

    Fangio was the OLB coach, BTW.

    Sucks when you don’t come together doesn’t it Skeebs? You did admit to being premature, though.

  143. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    See? Now THAT’S funny . . .

  144. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Some people are comedians and others are clowns.
    I think Chuck is looking for a circus.

  145. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If they hire Trestman as OC, this front office is on glue. Might as well rename this Jerry Jr. Land . . .

    Here I thought they’d use their opportunity to hire a young innovative offensive mind. Instead we get Tomsula? Thereby forcing Fangio out the door?

    Yes, I can be funny and smart. Thank you for noticing.

    You? Chew, step, chew, step, chew, step, chew, trip, fall.

  146. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, Chuck, lame us not spelled “funny”.

  147. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep let’s dump the winning coach and hire the brown nose. Predicted and Brilliant move York you stupid doof. And all you York and Balkey backers blow goats as we have said for the PAST YEAR. No one likes the York/Balkey cabal and refuse to work here under them. Predicted too because when you take off the tinfoil hat and the “I love suits” mentality it IS obvious.

    York will be happy for maybe a season while UM and BUF rack up better records than us. Balkey will get fired in a few years and shitsville express will pull out of the station for another trip to nowhere. With an internal York ‘nose’ for next HC.

    This is what we have, what we are. Not in happyland, in reality.

    Sorry but it is so. 7-9 Niners in 2015.

  148. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No, Bullit. “Lame us” fits you and Skeebs to a T.

    Phil, this couldn’t have gone any worse. I mean, they didn’t even INTERVIEW Tomsula, for Christ’s sake.

    Fangio is out according to the WashPost.

    I can only think they hire Donetell as the new DC. Hopefully Fangio left some good notes.

    OC? God only knows. If it’s Trestman or Shanny, I can only think the train has completely left the tracks and we are in for a bumpy ride straight to hell.

    Of all the scenarios, I really didn’t think this one was possible.

    Oh well. Here we go boldly into the fray.

  149. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Let the mockery cease = “Saint Jim” has 49-22-1 for 4 years here. Think this clown act will come close to that? Laughable. But “We’re better off without him”. Classic idiocy.

    Look, York family are morons no one decent wants to work for except brown nosers. Everyone in NFL gets that since Hendrix was sabotaged and many got it long before. The golden goose was killed to placate the ego of the child. You get it now over there in happyland?

    Tomsula = Singletary II with pants

  150. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Ah I see the ‘mea culpa’ so I’ll ease off the gloating. Sad day in Ninerville my friends. Sad day

  151. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, Phil as of now Tomsula has the highest winning %age of any coach in Niner history, so there’s that.

  152. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

  153. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Lame is the guy who posted at 10:00am
    “I’m about 90% sure it’s going to be Gase,”

    following it up with
    “Let’s hear how bad a move this is, girls.”

    It’s double jeopardy to be a clown and dumb. Nobody likes a dumb clown.

    Having a bad day?

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