The Great Divide

It’s been a long time since the blogosphere was this polarized. Not since the pre-Harbaugh days of Alex Smith. Heading into the 2015 season, bloggers either think the franchise is just fine, or they think it’s become a laughingstock. There’s no middle ground.

Training Camp begins in four weeks and the long offseason of disputed realities will begin to be resolved.

The laughingstock crowd remains firmly committed to the 49ers as a season long joke, but the “just finers” have already begun to lower their bar from the 8-8 is A-OK level by lowering their predictions of what Jim Harbaugh would have achieved if he had remained the coach. By the time the season actually starts, JFers might consider 4-12 a roaringly successful year.

A few of the JFers have sternly insisted they be allowed to see the team play this season before casting a vote on its worth. Sissies.

JFers are only concerned with the 2015 season. Their main hope is to escape it without total embarrassment and to be able to compare it favorably with Harbaugh’s worst season, last year’s 8-8 mark.

LSers aren’t worried about this year. They know it will be mediocre at best, and trending downward. Their concern is how many years of mediocrity lie ahead. And how many years it will take Jed York to repair the damage he has caused to the reputation and integrity of the franchise.

The JFers, however, dispute that York has harmed the franchise. Instead, they believe York is a football guru of sorts. He managed to discern, before anyone else in the world, that Harbaugh needed to be fired in the summer of 2014, after Harbaugh’s team had made three straight trips to the NFC Title game, and the first 49er Super Bowl appearance in 18 years.

This will be the first time in ten years that opposing defenses won’t be selling out to stop Frank Gore. Are they going to sell out to stop Carlos Hyde? Doubtful. Hyde averaged 4 yards per carry last year on 83 rushing attempts. Gore averaged 4.3 on 255 attempts. Hyde runs a lot more upright than Gore, making him easier to tackle and more prone to injury. He also won’t have Mike Iupati or Anthony Davis clearing holes for him to run through.

You have to feel bad for long time LT Joe Staley. His team-friendly contract, signed back when the franchise had a great esprit de corps, runs another three years or so. He’s had to watch the team blown up, almost all of his compatriots either retired or playing elsewhere, and is now looking at playing for a loser the rest of his career. Ooops! “Alleged loser.”

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  1. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I feel bad for guys like Staley, Boone, Boldin, Bowman and Kaep…. as bad as I can for millionaires. And Skeebers is right…. the York lovin’ homers have no doubt back-slid. Only a month ago, this team was playoff bound again. Now the team has lost too much talent and is rebuilding – nevermind that Harbaugh was the glue that kept the team together.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You are wrong according to the apologists.

    There is zero doubt that Harbaugh probably divided the locker room. Therefore if Harbaugh was still the coach these yahoos think the team was on a downward path. Remember we’re supposed to connect the dots even if the dots are laid out by a nutjob.

    There has not been one published report with a source named that will verify this contention. Yet this is the way some choose to lead their lives, to latch on to fairy stories and run with them.

  3. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    From coach of the year and winningest coach in the league to goat and gone in one injury-filled season.

    From one of the best coaching staffs in the league to the worst.

    Ninety percent of the defense gone, quit, retired, run off. And a few of the key players on offense run off, to boot.

    Finishing out of the playoffs this year is not much of a gamble. And yes, whatever our record is, it will be cheered and touted as better than we would have done with Harbaugh. Nothing is easier and more meaningless. Maybe that’s the attraction.

    The sheeple have gone from crying about contending every year and losing a Super Bowl to cheering that reaching the playoffs is still a theoretical possibility. If that’s not stupid enough, they’ll give you plenty of hell if you’re not on their rickety bandwagon, too.

  4. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes GB has done a far better job of getting receivers for Rodgers than we have for Kap. This is one reason our GM Balkey is not loved by some around here.

    OK York loves him some Balkey

    Kap’s 181 yards I mentioned against GB were on the ground by him = NFL playoff (?) record. No one was bitching about the Niners O in those days. Now we have this

  5. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    It’s gonna be hard for me to tune-out my team for the first time in my lifetime this up-coming preseason. I honestly used to get so fired up for the start of football season. I used to love my Niners. Now? I’m honestly not even going to watch, and that hurts me. But you know what I am going to watch? Jim Tomsula press conferences. I’m not going to watch 49er games, or get caught up in 49er drama unless it’s Jim Tomsula spinning why the 49ers lost. I am damn sure going to get caught up in the spinning of why the 49ers suck. That. THAT! is gonna to be fun. And I already have the answer for you: Jed York would rather lose than swallow his pride. So go lose, Jed. Go lose.

    “Well, the 49ers suck because so-n-so is young, and so-n-so got hurt and so-n-so is working through some growning pains….. but the 49ers will be good soon. I promise you that. We’re gonna be a force to be recogned with, I promise you.”

    My ass….

  6. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    GB top 3 WR’s are 2nd Rd picks, TE I believe are 3rd and 4th. Jordy Nelson over 1500 yds, Randall Cobb just under 1300, and high praise for Davante Adams first year. Top O with 486 pts. Remember the niners O in the 80’s. Ground and pound boring.

    BJ Raji-less and Hawk and Jones released from last season. Raji is healthy and their 2 CB FA exits replaced with their first two picks of S and CB.

    Remember the past, it could be our future. Not this year.

  7. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    At ktla.Com FSU QB de’Andre Johnson punches a white girl at a bar. Later dismissed from team. Another one of obama’s sons in action.

  8. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes some clarity will be welcome as we move towards the season. It has been polarized alright and I was a lot more distracted in 2008. And discouraged after 7-8 years of Niner follies. Now it’s just been one off season and one half rumor and injury filled 2014 season. Which is a lot of crap but just wait till the losing starts.

    Not sure I’ll be watching Tommy squirm after the losses as may have reached my squirm quota during the actual games. Never thought Niner football would be less entertaining than politics. But I have a short memory for the pre-Jimi days. Or is it denial as a defense mechanism?

    Revisiting those memories in a crap filled 2015 is going to be ugly.

  9. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Leaders? What leaders?

  10. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    The Warriors are doing it right. They are resigning their homegrown talent, and they’re drafting well. I like the kid from UCLA. And instead of picking up another player, they resigned Draymond Green. That’s how you win Championships. The Warriors model is the model for any sport – Good coaching, good drafting, retain your homegrown talent and have the owner shut his mouth and stay outta the way.

    The 49ers don’t draft well, they now aren’t coached well, and they definitely aren’t retaining their own: Iupati, Crabtree, Culliver have left. Gore is gone, but I would have cut ties with him too. Willis, Borland and Anthony Davis have retired…

    Bad drafting (Vance McDonald, LaMicheal James, Jimmy Ward, AJ Jenkins, Cory Lemonier…. and the list goes on), bad coaching (and yes, I know that already without seeing Tomsula coach a single game), and no retention of homegrown talent equal a bottom feeding team that I ain’t gonna watch. No way, Jose. And let’s not forget a meddlesome owner who is a child and certainly doesn’t command the respect of men.

    Go, Bernie! GO!!!

  11. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It’s more than a bit odd that the folks who come unglued over accusations of domestic violence cheerfully support and defend the rape and murder with impunity sub-culture created by zero’s policy of protecting illegal alien criminals (emphatic redundancy).

    Maybe the movement to drop or change the “San Francisco” part from the Niners name will cure the madness of the sanctuary city lawlessness as easily as banning reruns of The Dukes of Hazzard cures racism.

  12. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    NF, I fear for this country. Obola has thrown gasoline on race, gender, and class division. A determined minority wins in a democracy. Special interests have succeeded in allowing an invading army of aliens to stream in unchecked to change the demographics and voting patterns.

    Our economy is becoming like Europe and labor statistics are massaged by the left burrowed into the bureaucracy. The cratering economy is not newsworthy but the Confederate flag issue is created and pushed by zeroes praetorian guard media. Another in a string of diversionary fires to keep eyes off of big govt and it’s weaponization by the left against the non-believers.

    Civil war has already started.

  13. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    No surprise to me the Niners are sliding down the slippery slope since we got the first whiff of the winning coach being ‘traded’ to Cleveland. No surprise. Utterly as predicted by me then.

    No surprise the US is sliding towards the happy mediocrity of a third world country since the community organizer was acclaimed our savior. No surprise, utterly predictable.

    Luckily he gets termed out. Will the citizens fall for the same old crap once again? Wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

  14. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    What is the worlds biggest addiction?

    Sex, drugs, rock and roll?

    Naw not really.


    Please. Really? Nice try.

    What if I owned a football team and hired a great staff after years of mediocrity. Would my unaddicted goal be, you know, winning football games, giving the fans and players, coaches, what they really want? Bask in the reflected glory of the team and the men who run it? Would I use the buzz and the win streak to build myself a new stadium, rack up the bucks, strut around being a big shot?

    What if I was elected president of the US. Would my goal be to make the county stronger, more secure and prosperous? Build on the foundations, the strengths, the virtues that made the country great? Fling open our borders, abandon allies and friends, substitute rhetoric for reliable action, enrich me and mine?

    The parallels are obvious. The common denominator? Love of money, power to control and dominate others = the worlds biggest addiction = “My will be done, because I can”.

    This is leadership or something far different?

  15. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, I don’t think Jed hates pro football and pro football players as much as Obama hates America and Americans.

    It was predictable and even by the useful idiots after the first term. But free obama phones, no border enforcement, and welfare $$ for all buys a lot of votes.

    Who votes twice for a president to lead a country he has nothing but contempt for? Lots of blame-America-firsters out there on the left wishing to bring Greece and its demise here.

  16. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Since the racist Marxist obola started his destruction 7 years ago the labor participation rate went from 65.6 to 62.7 a level not seen since 1977. 16 million got discouraged from looking for work and fell off the govt statistics while 3 million jobs added during obola’s reign. Illegal and legal aliens get those jobs while older citizens, white and black, get kicked to the wasteland of perpetual unemployment.

    Meanwhile in DC a black man butchered and kicked in the head an American University white man on a metro train with no media reporting at a national level. In Cincinatti feral jackals fresh from a hip hop fest ganged up on a single whitey and beat him to a pulp with the usual head stomps and kicks to the head with no national reporting. And in liberal Hollywood another one of obama’s sons shot gunned a 30 yr white woman from behind, her brains splattered in broad daylight.

    Meanwhile the obola crowd has spent a lot of media time on a meaningless symbol, the Confederate flag. The next civil war is here with daily slaughters. Outside of the SF women there is not a peep from the media while the haters on the left perfect their craft.

  17. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s get off the politics, guys.

  18. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    We have 9 picks in 2016 with 3 more possibly from comp picks. OT Isaiah Battle 6’6” 312 lbs available in supplemental draft. Foerster may be the only credible O position coach so if this guy can eventually replace AD in his eyes the draft capital is there.

    Lots of work needs to be done at QB and WR. Serious neglect by TB here and I have to follow another team for this season.

  19. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The whole franchise is up for review this year – both players and coaches. Not ownership, though. We already know York is a meddling, insecure idiot. But how good are Baalke and Tomsula? This season should tell us a lot.

  20. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Actually, we know who Tomsula is. He’s not just another meathead D-line coach. Baalke is the one on the hot seat – ours, if not York’s.

  21. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Was TB involved in shoving Harbaugh out the door. Was it all on Jed. Was Gase the only pass oriented OC/HC that was willing to work for this FO. If Jed meddled and insisted that Guido be the DC then why is TB on the hot seat? Once Gase said FU to our FO then TB gave up and his draft strategy was for the future and D reconstruction only.

    Our WR’s are 2 Ravens and mediocrity. Patton another possession receiver who will not be thrown to since CK only able to find his first, and maybe second targets after a staredown.

  22. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke is the GM, as in big-time manager of the team. Has he done a good job managing it? Perennial contender to who-knows for no good reason relating to winning football games?

    I can remember no statements from Baalke to stem the dis-information campaign launched to get rid of Harbaugh. In fact, I’m more than a little suspicious about the tweet from daughter’s phone.

    But yeah, his drafts are mediocre, if we don’t consider the failed rehab projects. Let’s keep him at all costs.

    I suspect just a half-assed search could turn up a GM as good. And maybe one who would actually assist the HC in a game-winning goal instead of plotting his end. Oh, yeah, no politics. The end.

  23. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Man the Niners have been nothing but politics but at least it’s Niner related.

    We have a few more weeks before training camp news starts up and this dead zone ends.

  24. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Giants DE Jason Pierre-Paul had right index finger amputated today.”

  25. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Like John Madden said, “It’s easier to find a suit.” What makes me laugh is NJ just gushing over the Baalke picks. History will show Baalke just a cut above Terry Donahue…. which, if you’re scoring at home, ain’t sayin’ much.

  26. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke first round picks:

    2010: Anthony Davis, Mike Iuptati – both gone
    2011: Aldon Smith – one drink away from year suspension
    2012: LaMichael James – gone
    2013: Eric Reid – one concussion away from retirement
    2014: Jimmie Ward – doesn’t seem to have a position currently
    2015: Arik Armstead – missed OTAs, might not play this year

  27. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Not a great record for this duo of York and Balkey despite their popularity in some quarters. I really hate to see our OL dismantled this year. Did A Davis throw in the towel due to the dumping of Harbaugh and the failure to resign Iupati? I guess Balkey proved he doesn’t want to spend big on Guards as rumored.
    Hope it doesn’t get Kap injured and Gabbert promoted.

  28. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    2nd Rd picks even worse outside of CK. Also 2012 had a Jenkins then James in 2nd. Both no return. 2011 the best, but 2013 and 2014 needs more time to judge.

  29. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes it was AJ Jenkins in the 1st round. This is the ‘bust’ draft that precipitated the feud between Jimi H and Balkey/York. We got nothing, NOTHING, in that entire F-ing draft but we did get LMJ who fumbled in the Super Bowl. And we did lose our coaches eventually.

    Right there, the beginning of the end. Look no further. Harbaugh was furious at what Balkey got him that year. Not sure if Jimi is a “saint” but he surely is a prophet.

  30. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Recent article on Marcus Lattimore and the pain he couldn’t endure in his attempt at a comeback. Was rooting for Marcus but only Marcus knew how much he could take. Sad he couldn’t realize his dream.

  31. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Thought this was a relevant quote re: our FO/GM/owners futility:

    “In matters of fanaticism failure is not disproof. It only means one must try harder”.

    Yeah give ’em a few more drafts. But what will be most convincing is a few 7-9, 5-11 seasons.

  32. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I wouldn’t give Baalke credit for Anthony Davis or Iupati. I think, judging by Singletary comments pre draft, and the nature of the McCloughan firing, York let Singletary run the draft that year… at least the early picks. I think Singletary also liked Taylor Mays.

    And the Marcus Lattimore comments are hilarious. Under normal circumstances, a player in that position shuts up, takes his money (a half million a year) and he’s forever grateful to the organization for paying him. And Lattimore is a classy kid. But Lattimore sees what we all see…the front office is a clown show. If Lattimore is saying this now, you better believe he’s got five friends in the locker room currently who have the same feelings and questions about York and Baalke.

  33. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Or, maybe, they saw similarities to a guy like Frank Gore Spit?
    A 1st class person with a passion for the game.

    With extra Draft Picks, they can afford to take a chance on someone like Marcus.
    He did what he could to follow his dream and fell short.

  34. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s the 9er Draft History –

    GMs –
    Terry Donahue – 2001-2004
    Scot McCloughan – 2005-2009
    Trent Baalke – 2010 – Current

    Compare 1st RD Picks by where they fall as well.
    Guys like AJJ and JWard for example, were both #30.
    Rashaun Woods #31
    Kwame Harris #26
    Mike Rumph #27
    Kentwan Balmer #29

    Joe Staley #28, still going strong.
    Then, you can look at guys like NaVorro, #91 making a huge impact.
    Bruce Miller, #211 a coverted DE who contributed immediately as a FB.
    Win some. Lose some.

    It’s a crap shoot.
    College kids projecting to the Pros is a gamble.
    Always has been, always will be.

    Easier to find studs in the Top 10 than the bottom 10.
    You make a roster with depth.
    Finding a Frank Gore or Joe Montana in RD3 doesn’t happen every year.
    I’d rather see Baalke add Picks and, create competition as he has been.

    Eric Reid was a solid gamble to move up for too IMO.
    Can any GM know about concussions before they happen?
    Should Baalke have known Borland and Davis would pack it in abruptly too?

    I don’t see anything wrong with an injured knee for a 20 year old either.
    If they’re committed to rehab and the NFL, why not?
    Medical/surgical practices are much more successful in recent years.
    If a 1st RD talent can be had in RD2 / 3 or later, then go NFI for a year or 2 on the cheap, what’s the risk?
    It’s simply a roster Mgt tactic with an eye on future development.

    Every GM gets strapped with College Picks that don’t cut it.
    Years ago, money didn’t matter either.
    Now, the strategy of planning ahead makes Cap Mgt a bigger issue.

  35. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    You draft for two or three years out. If in two or three years time you’re in dead last place in your division, you couldn’t afford Lattimore. But keep desperately clinging to the idea Baalke’s good. It’ll make for better theatre later.

  36. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Check the Draft link Spit.
    History shows it ain’t just Baalke that misses on Picks.
    Scot brought us Alex with the #1 Pick.
    Until any franchise finds an elite starter, there’s plenty of room to criticize.

    Kaep is/was Harbaughs’ answer to Alex.
    We’ll see if that changes our future in due time.

  37. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Dude… I don’t mind missing but has he ever picked anyone good? And a minute ago Lattimore was a luxury. Now anyone can miss. Baalke could pick Emanuel Lewis to play linebacker and you’d find a way to tell us how great the pick was….please.

  38. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I just stated a couple of guys earlier.
    Bowman and Miller have been solid contributors.
    Reid and Culliver made it into starter roles too.

    Maybe Moody makes it, Lemonier too.
    If not, someone else gets the chance to take the spot.
    It’s all about development Spit.
    Take a look at all the guys Drafted in the past 10 years.
    How many are still around?
    You enjoy finding the negatives don’t you?

    It’s about finding College talent and developing them.
    Is Aldon a wasted Pick?

  39. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    2010 draft? The board had been set by Scot McCloughan, fired two weeks before the draft. Singletary had his fingerprints on the early round picks because they had an impact on his tenure. The later round picks, like Bowman, were on a McCloughan board…. and it’s hard to argue with that. His draft board would definitely have been set.

    The only Baalke pick I like is Aldon Smith, but with a seventh overall you better find a stud.

  40. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    You can afford to miss on guys in the Mid to Late RDs.
    You get pinched on guys in the Top 15 if you can’t get production from them.

    Aaron Lynch might be insurance for Aldon.
    Eli Harold for Brooks too.
    Baalke is clearly seeking to upgrade the Secondary and both the TE/WR groups.
    By creating competition on the roster, you expect to find better options every year.
    VMcD is on the bubble, Vernon is in a walk year.
    It’s all part of the business.

    It comes down to roster depth and Cap Mgt now days.
    Once a guy gets expensive or, starts to decline, you need a cheaper alternative to fall back on.

    Watch what happens in Seattle with Russell’s Contract.
    You can’t pay everyone but, you need to pay the QB at some point.
    We’ve paid Kaep.
    On a very Cap friendly deal.
    Seattle won’t get away with what we did.

  41. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Whether you want to give credit to Baalke or McCloughan for Bowman is your choice.
    All I’m saying is, Baalke has largely been successful both at talent evaluation and Cap/Contract Mgt.

    This isn’t about hitting a Jerry Rice Pick every year.
    That doesn’t happen for anyone.
    Baalke collects Picks very well.
    He can afford to take some injury chances, on guys like Lattimore, Brandon Thomas or Smelter.
    As long as you can NFI them and, manage the roster to protect them, it makes sense.

    For a relatively new GM, he hasn’t been clueless about trying to improve the team.
    We could’ve done worse IMO.

  42. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke sucks. Jed York sucks. Shut up, NJ.

  43. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Got it Spit.
    Enjoy Michigan football.

  44. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    History and facts elude you there in Geneoushire apparently.

  45. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, sure everybody picks some losers and it isn’t an exact science, and it’s hard to pick the guys who will transition, etc., etc., etc, but every GM is compared to every other teams’ GMs. How’re we doing? Top in the league? Top in the conference? Top in the division?

    The answer was yes to all the above when asked about Harbaugh before last year’s injuries and QB regression. So why is everyone so anxious to excuse a bad year or two from Baalke, or Kaepernick, but with Harbaugh it’s “he had a good run but he fell short so he had to go.” ?

    Coaching is the thing everyone who can’t tell the difference loves to blame for every shortcoming on the field. We can point to mistakes made by Baalke and Kaepernick and they get pooh-poohed as unimportant but guessing what “must be” a coaching problem for lack of a more concrete explanation becomes the single reason we finished 8-8. That’s beyond a simple stretch of logic, and it’s not just wrong, it’s ludicrous.

    And now, after years of hearing coaching is the only problem standing between us and another Super Bowl, a completely new and mostly unproven staff is the answer? If coaching was as important as everyone has insisted it was, wouldn’t it just make more sense to get the winning coach we had some more support and insist on that support from everyone in the front office down, or failing to continue with that winning coach for some insurmountable reason, get the absolute best candidate for the job to take his place instead of an inexperienced d-line coach and hoping he might not be so bad?

    Something tells me if you invested your retirement in the Niners making a “profit” (as in deep playoff run) this year you would be raising all kinds of hell at the stockholders meeting for these bonehead moves.

  46. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er I don’t excuse anything, I simply can’t control it.
    I have to accept the fact that there were issues in the FO that precluded a lengthier run for Harbaugh.
    I had no problems winning games after all the years of ineptitude either.
    Baalke hasn’t chimed in much on Harbaugh so, I have to assume there were issues he chooses not to discuss.

    Many have speculated that the relationship between he and Harbaugh wasn’t working, so, I’m not sure what those issues might have been?

    Given what I know, Baalke persuaded Harbaugh to take the job in the 1st place.
    They obviously had some common ground along the way.
    Was Jed the guy that changed that? I have no clue.
    Plenty to speculate on certainly.

    Given the reports about Gase, I assumed Baalke was looking for Offensive improvements.
    I also would speculate that, there may have been reason for the separation, if Offensive improvements involved changing OCs too?
    Was Harbaugh asked by Baalke to replace Roman?

    I simply think this came down to a power struggle, possibly between Baalke and Harbaugh.
    Given the structure we employ, the GM trumps the HC.
    Call it irreconcilable differences I guess?

    I’ve raised my share of H3LL with these 9ers before.
    It sucks to go back to this level of uncertainty too.
    I also have had my concerns for Kaep, which I’ve shared here many times.
    There’s a piece of me that wonders if, Kaep’s selection and, his shortcomings as a pocket passer, could have been pinned on Harbaugh as well?

    Hasn’t been a pretty display of harmony in SF for sure.
    3-Ring circus likely sums it up best.

  47. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Unfortunately, we can’t change the Owner.
    He’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
    I’ve simply asked for good football people to run the show.
    Owners never improve the X’s and O’s.

    I think it was reported along the way that Jed gave Baalke GM control for his ability to reel in Harbaugh.
    Might have linked it here along the way?

    So, to that end, Baalke had the upper hand.
    My hope had always been for Harbaugh to improve the passing game.
    He made hay with the ground game.
    Had we found a way to balance that, with a more potent passing attack, things likely would never have come to this mutiny.
    Much of that can be hung on Kaep’s development too.

    I cringe every time I think about the lack of touch, on the repeated attempts to win the SB with Crabtree too.

  48. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Like Seattle trying to get too cute in this year’s SB, how differently things might have looked for them, and us, if the RBs were utilized that close to the Goal Line.

    Frank deserved that opportunity more than anyone else IMO.

  49. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    OT Isaiah Battle went to the Rams for a 5th Rd pick. Wonder if we bid the same and just lost because of lower draft position. Tired of weasel tactics and stockpiling picks and hoping for home runs from mid to late Rd picks.

    Outside of 2011 TB is poor on the high picks. Rams gonna kick our ass this season. VD and CK puts glimmer into the eyes of the homers. Top ten pick guaranteed.

  50. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    RIP Kenny Stabler.

  51. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Yes RIP Snake Stabler.
    When you think of Raiduh QB you immediately think of Stabler just like Montana and the Niners.
    Stabler threw a pretty ball that was easy to catch. Snake threw darts that were so accurate.

    When I think old Raiduhs it’s always Stabler, Hendricks and Casper.

  52. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Ray McDonald might get locked up after all. He is a sick man with something wrong in his brain that he keeps repeating the same actions that get’s him arrested. He’s a knucklehead who doesn’t think what he’s doing is wrong.
    He needs help and some time being locked up might do him some good.

  53. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Training camp and preseason injuries happen. Can VD or Brooks have any trade value. Then first 6 or so weeks of season till trading ends. Prefer both are off the team and let the future get all the snaps. Release or trade.

  54. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    FSU RB charged with battery, punching a 21 yr old woman outside a bar. He was involved in other criminal activity. FSU motto is be all you can be.

  55. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    This should fire up NJ’s engines:

    “Story on possible collusion between Cowboys and Broncos re unsettled contracts of Demaryius Thomas/Dez Bryant.”

  56. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    A rash of injuries to this year’s team like last year’s and 2-14 becomes a real possibility. And don’t ask where they’ll get the 2. The secondary has a lot of bodies, if not talent, so that group can afford an injury or two. But injuries to the O-line, D-line, or ILB group cannot be afforded at all. No depth.

  57. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs there’s another reason to consider collusion.
    Greg Hardy had his suspension reduced today.
    10 games to 4.
    Think Aldon.
    Did he get any sort of break for seeking treatment?
    Fuk no.

    Suspension upheld.

    Jerruh and Roger, Blandino too, are REAL cozy.

    You do the math.

  58. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Roger had as much to do with Levis Stadium and the SB as anyone.
    It’s all about ROI.

    The NFL is going in the same orbit as FIFA.
    Money talks.

    Sepp Blatter as Roger Goodell?

  59. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Curious as to why Tomsula has hung around?
    NFLE perhaps?

    Dr Daddy on the NFLE Committee?


  60. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think the actual criminal complaint against Hardy was dropped. So ten games for what?

  61. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Aldon was also a multiple offender with 3 DUIs in 2 years.
    Remember he was also stabbed in the chest at his own party.
    What hasn’t been reported is the guy who stabbed him was trying to kill Aldon because the knife wound was inches from his heart.
    So 3 DUIs, getting stabbed at your party, shooting off assault weapons to disperse a crowd and the incident at LAX. Quite an eventful 2 years fo Aldon.
    IIRC Hardy was in trouble just this once so a reduction might be warranted..

  62. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Go to NN comments section. Seems that the woman testified before a judge about the beating in federal court. State court issued subpoenas for her. In between Hardy paid her to keep quiet. Is she in hiding? Has this been resolved.

    With this pending why could his suspension be reduced. He interfered in the legal system by bribing her. Did she officially drop her charges. He also threatened to kill her.

  63. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    She backed out. Seems she told 2 stories so one was a lie. The presiding judge said hardy hit her and threw her around the room. She was a poor witness tho so a suspended sentence and 18 months probation.

    She dropped the charges but she was paid off. I’meant OK with this. Why burden our justice system with weak cases like this. 95% of cases are plea bargained anyway.

  64. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not attempting to paint Aldon as a choir boy here.
    Simply, he sought treatment on his own accord.
    If Goodell saw fit to honor that gesture he could have.
    He simply chose not to.

    My gripe is the cozy relationships between Herr Commish and several high profile Owners like Jerruh.

    It taints the overall credibility we’re expected to buy into

  65. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Jed’s tweet was idiotic simply because after that game the Niners were 7-5 with Seahags 8-4. Why throw the team and the cach under the bus when you are one game behind with 4 to go?

    This ranks with Willie Brown sticking his foot in his mouth with his dumb comments on Grbac.

  66. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Willie Brown was a corrupt clown. The downfall of California starts with him.

    If TB is inadequate as far as evaluating QB and WR for a modern NFL passing game then Jed should allow him to have a QB-WR specialist reporting to TB. TB obviously gunshy from A J Jenkins and will not use high picks to fix the passing game.

    Already showed GB drafting for receiving weapons. Same with the Colts. Phillip Dorsett a 1st. FA pickups with Andre Johnson and Nate Washington. TB needs help here. Enough with these no risk late round stabs in the dark. He is gutless now and damaging to the niners future.

    If these goes on he might pull a Caitlin jenner. Trying to help here.

  67. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Amazing we could not get a reputable HC once Harbaugh left. If Gase a little green still go with that and build on it with some growing pains. Other choice is what we have now. Jed needs psychiatric help. A trust fund baby little lord fauntleroy.

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    A reminder why Jed should just shut up cuz every time he opens his mouth he says the wrong thing. Talk about extremes.

  69. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    IMHO if your team is still in the playoff race the one thing you don’t want your owner to do is to butt in. When Jed tweeted that’s exactly what he did.

    Instead of commentary, Jed is in a position to do something. He could’ve fired some coaches if he didn’t like what was going on.
    The Jed tweet is just more evidence that his agenda was to undermine the team.

    Looking at the stats 100 yards net passing isn’t going to get it done especially when you’re battling from behind. Zero TDs and 2 picks is not acceptable QB play.

  70. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “The Jed tweet is just more evidence that his agenda was to undermine the team”

    We were 7-5 and the hawks 8-4? Wow, I forgot it was that close. Yep undermining for sure. We were beginning to falter w/injuries and it seemed we had peaked. (We had). But yeah what a chicken shit move. No love for York here

  71. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “This ranks with Willie Brown sticking his foot in his mouth with his dumb comments on Grbac.”

    It was far worse. Brown was an outsider (not OUR kind) and York is the F-ing owner. Much more damaging. What kind of A hole does this to something he “loves”? Who was it said recently “York hates football”


  72. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Jed is in a bubble. Mommy brought home the bacon courtesy of a corrupt brother Eddie. No meritocracy, hard work, discipline, and eventual achievement. Daddy is a head case doctor, like Howard Dean. Or if not, a medical nerd outside of his comfort zone.

    Jed has a complex and needs to butt in, no matter how unqualified and no doubt compensating for his lack of real achievement. Berger approves.

    Go back to the fans hot from NN. Guy wants to invite Jed into the octagon. To payback all the ill will Jed has foisted on the fan base.

  73. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The guy that begins a statement with zero doubt and ends it with possibly now says this.
    “If you own a team you should have full access and respect”

    Yeah we all know how much the head apologist respected Jed’s dad, John York. (aka Dr Dork?)

    Owning a team does not get you automatic respect, you have to earn it.

    Marge Schott and Donald Sterling should get no respect and
    Irsay Sr for moving out of Baltimore in the dead of night and stealing the Colts.

    Very sad if you believe you can buy respect. This isn’t politics where elections are bought.

  74. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    There was absolutely no reason for Jed’s dumb tweet.
    Before that Seahag game the Niners had won 3 in a row.
    Everyone and their uncle knew that this was going to be a very difficult game because it was against the Niner nemesis Seattle and it was on a short week with less than 4 days to prepare.

    If Jed was frustrated he should have waited to at least talk to the team or the coaches and tell them how he felt and he could have sent the tweet out later, what was the hurry?

    The reason why the adults think Jed should have waited to tweet later is because he blindsided the entire team with his tweet throwing all of them under the bus and leaving them in a firestorm with the postgame media in answering questions on why the owner did this.

    In fact why tweet? If you’re really that pissed pull Maiocco to the side and get up in front of the camera and look all 49er fans in the eye and express yourself.

  75. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s a question. So every time the Niners have a lackluster loss Jed is going to apologize?
    You have to be a complete dolt not to believe there were ulterior motives.

    What Jed should have addressed is letting Dick and Russell Wilson eat turkey on the 49er logo after the game on National TV.

  76. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In the real world it’s up to the writer to be clear and concise
    to be understood.
    You cannot start a sentence with an absolute such as “no doubt”
    and later in the same sentence hedge and go with probably.
    Writing style is confusing and I’m sure purposely vague as the author gives nothing to substantiate his contention.
    Somebody needs to learn how to write.
    The usual fence sitting and funny as hell.

  77. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


  78. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    So little Jed has to show his manhood. He canned Harbaugh. For what. How would little man better the teams fortunes. He personally stopped the Gase deal insisting on Guido for DC. The deal that TB put together.

    No other reputable HC candidate with a clue about a modern NFL passing attack wanted anywhere near the stink of this FO.

    Little Jed had every right to butt in as owner rep. Remember his mommy and daddy own the team. Was it wise. Homer blog braintrust seems to think so.

    Season starts in 2 months. Well done Homer blog.

  79. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Lots of exposure on Jed’s handiwork starting with MNF against the Vikings. Then two SNF games later in the season. Then SB 50 with a two week buildup at Levi’s.

    Tons of opportunity to promote and put the best face on the franchise. Thanks for everything.

  80. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Got franchises annually in the playoffs. All have strong passing attacks. One of the wise men tells us that we are pseudo owners and have no business judging Jedster. Football ain’t rocket science.

    A little bit of that California arrogance showing.

  81. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I’d call it desperate baloney, not arrogance. When you get a few idiots gathered in one spot, you’re going to hear a whole lot of lunatic nonsense.

  82. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s the most useless stat someone picked out of their ass to validate Kap as a legit QB.

    “Kap has also won more road play off games than Montana and Young combined.”

    This is one of few shreds the Kap Fanboys hang onto and it’s still funny every time I see it and they post it every few weeks because they have nothing else. LMAO!

  83. winderNo Gravatar says:

    “When you get a few idiots gathered in one spot, you’re going to hear a whole lot of lunatic nonsense.” skeebs, I couldn’t have said it better myself.

  84. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Hope this blog has database users that can collect the negative quotes on Jed and the O. As the season progresses the amount of data will be an avalanche. A piling on effect, first national then local pundits. Spreadsheet won’t do.

  85. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    The quotes are both written and video from espn, etc. Not just derogatory segments but also nasty innuendo and jokes. If not the expertise here then maybe someone on the Homer blog. A few over there seems to think their shit doesn’t stink.

  86. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    They’re down to their last few weeks of denial before reality sets in. The rest of the world will be discussing the last place Niners and those guys will still be trying to prove Harbaugh was a bad coach.

  87. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I see Berger’s got Harbaugh’s record next year, if he was still coach, down to 3-13. This is called throwing your credibility into the toilet and donning a clown suit. But it’s like him to be stridently sure of something that can never be verified.

  88. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    I was going to do a little bit on the need for psychiatric help over there but tabled it for now.

    The CS should realize the O cannot be the same with AD gone. Passing has to be the priority, the 8 and 9 in a box needs to be gone for ZBS to work. Short pass game needs to be the new ball control. Seems Pears cannot be relied on so a majority snap run game would be disaster. He is OK for pass pro.

    If CS does this then CK can be set up to show what he has and judgement on him can be done fairly. If they resort to running a majority of the time this could be the worst team in football.

    Schedule is brutal and DLINE in flux maybe all season. How can our D keep the score down against above average passing QB’s. The few that do not have better D. Cleveland, Minnesota, and Rams.

  89. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Berger needs a reality check
    “I am absolutely sure Harbough would have gone 6-8 or worse if still here. That is an absolute statement. Now the rest of the statement is not an absolute. Possibly means maybe. Maybe we go 3-13, I’m not sure”

    If you are stupid enough to make the so called “absolute statement” on something that can’t be proven then you are living in Fairyland.

    Shows you the wild imagination of the author. I asked for evidence of the so called “player mutiny” and Berger gives me snippets of things said after the game taken out of context.
    When you play the entire interview there is no mutiny.
    Still waiting for some solid authenticated evidence not inuuendo, conspiracy theories and speculation.

    The clown suit fits and this could be their anthem

  90. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Man, that other blog winds you guys up. If Berger is saying Harbaugh would have gone 3-13 in 2015, that’s Berger’s way of protecting himself. Nobody is stupid enough to side with York while not have an out for a total collapse in 2015. The out or the blame has to be placed at someone’s feet. And if you’re a York homer like Berger, that someone can’t be immediately connected to York this year. So Harbaugh becomes the convenient scapegoat.

    However, rational people understand that Harbaugh was the glue that kept this team together. Anthony Davis wouldn’t have retired. I’m sure of that. Gore might have stayed for less, even though it would have been a mistake. I bet Willis stays. Borland? I don’t know. Culliver definitely loved him some Harbaugh. And Skuta, being a Flint Michigan man himself, loved him some Harbaugh and definitely would have stayed, especially with Brooks losing favor with Fangio.

    Winning in the NFL is created a lot of different ways, but it’s primarily two things: a talented roster and coaches who know how to get the most out of that talent with schemes, play calling and daily inspiration. Under Harbaugh, the 49ers had all of that. Now? Nothing.

    Harbaugh’s 2014 year saw the team bitten by the injury bug – in a big way. And, you had the intentional owner distraction, sabotaging his own coach through the media. Who can keep the ship straight when that’s going on? If you could somehow eliminate the injuries and the owner (wouldn’t that be nice?), Harbaugh goes 10-6 his last year in SF, but narrowly misses the playoffs, which was my prediction at the beginning of the year – how nice.

    After all the recent loses to the roster that wouldn’t have happened if Harbaugh remained (as drastically) – to predict what Harbaugh would do in 2015, sorting out who would have stayed and who would have left, is a fool’s errand – so let the fool run it.

  91. winderNo Gravatar says:

    10-6 book it. And I promise not to use a tinfoil hat. But, just in case we do suck make sure to pass around attaboy’s and pats on the back for all. What fun you will have.

  92. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Keeping track of a disaster isn’t really much fun, Winder, but it beats turning your back and pretending it doesn’t exist.

  93. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Funny how Chuckle’s minions have taken a page out of Chuckle’s playbook.
    When you have nothing to say in rebuttal, go on a personal attack
    just to deflect. Make it off topic. Berger says I spell my name incorrectly and I can say the same to him.

    Burger cannot provide an answer so he goes full obfuscation.

  94. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs- I totally agree and if my back were turned and I was pretending i would be guilty as charged. However, my back is not turned and I
    am not pretending. Subjectivity is selective and stubborn people rarely change their stripes(speaking of myself). Belief is also very subjective and usually only sanctimonious people try and discount others in that respect.

  95. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs- I probably shouldn’t have used the term “Sanctimonious” in respect to 49er fooball but that was the first word that popped into my head. And, I gotta admit it is one that is a little to deep for me. Just replace it with “idiots.” Thanks.

  96. winderNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- Thanks for the Sinatra, that one is a gem and shows the man had enormous talent and was capable of multiple styles in music.

  97. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Sinatra would’ve been 100 years old later this year

    These guys cover Sinatra as well as anyone else

  98. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Burger, Berger, burglar, meatball whatever.
    Berger used to post under a different name also IIRC. Guess his shit doesn’t stink.
    You can join Chuckles and fret about poster’s names cuz that’s about your speed.
    Let the real men talk about football.

  99. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    One thing the yahoos on the other blog ignore is reality.
    They openly speculate what Eddie Debartalo would have done with Harbaugh. Their feeble minds naturally conclude to fire him as Jed did. They are clearly in make it up Fairyland.

    Wait one second. Eddie is alive and kicking unlike the stupid what would Walsh do speculation these clowns enjoy kicking around.

    Eddie D wa interviewed and said Harbaugh should get the extension and he even told Jed how important it was to get it done. Read for yourself and stop putting words in Eddie D’s mouth.

  100. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If you want to know what Eddie also thinks about Harbaugh here’s a quote from AP

    “DeBartolo loves the intensity of 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh.“I see a lot of Bill Walsh in coach Harbaugh,” DeBartolo said. “Obviously, they’re different. Bill was a lot more low-key than coach Harbaugh. I think coach Harbaugh wears his heart on his sleeve. But he, too, is a great coach and I think he’s going to go down as one of the great coaches. His career has really just started and he’s already been to his second NFC championship game. I see the teams that he has created that remind me so much of a couple of our teams — the ’89 team and the ’94 team.” – See more at:

  101. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Could this be part of the problems between Baalke and Harbaugh?

    Could this have come out when they disagreed about something?

  102. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Seems like 12th Man is delusional or misremembering things on the reasoning of Jed’s tweet..

    “That is not a blame, it is acceptance of righteous dissatisfaction from the fan base that had been evident before this game and certainly following it.”

    Yep, let’s just make up some BS. Entering the game both Seattle and the Niners had identical 7-4 records. The Niners had won 3 in a row. “Righteous dissatisfaction” that had been evident?

    These clowns have no credibility whatsoever. Want a laugh? Read that blog.

  103. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The timing of Jed’s tweet indicates to me he was throwing the team under the bus. They say timing is everything and Jed did it so the press could have a field day with the team and Harbaugh after the game.
    Had he done it after everyone was gone from Levi’s it would have
    sent the same message. Jed’s timing indicates to me malicious intent, especially with the national media on hand.

  104. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    It fits the pattern Bullit of York using various unmanly tactics to attack his HC. Couldn’t just go up and say to JH: “We’re going in another direction. You and I don’t see eye to eye so good luck. Good bye”. It still would have been an idiot move for the team but it would have been honest. Instead he did the cowardly things of sabotage, innuendo and (attempted) public humiliation. A stunning display of arrogance, indulgence of personal animosity and unprofessional behavior.

    This was set up to make Harbaugh look bad and some have bought it. Don’t pay any attention over there as the MO is clear. People want to support York have at it. It will all be quite clear how effective this kind of leadership is for the Niners this season and going forward.

  105. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Exactly right, Phil. That would be the way a man would do it. Jed doesn’t fit the profile. Or the profile of a “football guy”.

  106. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe Jed was trying to be a “Manly Man” and just got confused.

  107. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep NF the idea that the Niner owner is not a football man or an honest, decent man is a major disappointment and bodes ill for our future success. Big come down from “the heir of Eddies legacy” to this. Very disappointing.

    Meanwhile as noted by Skeebs we are in the last few weeks before reality begins to dawn as to what the consequences are for the team of such ‘leadership’.

  108. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Winder – What me? Who me? Pat myself on the back if I’m right? Unbelievable to think I’d do such a thing. I’m character, plus. You know this. If I’m right I’ll simply shed a tear and watch as my once beloved Niners slip off into dream land. I’ll take no solace.

  109. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Ok spit if you say so. How could I be so foolish!

  110. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit there was an attempt to lure Parcells out of retirement, yes.
    I recall that piece as well.
    What I think may have happened was a falling out over Offensive philosophy?
    I also think that the SB loss and, reports of Harbaugh seeking a raise afterward, may also have contributed to animosity within.

    If the reports of Harbaugh calling out Jed are true, I suspect Harbaugh was simply daring Jed to force him out too.

    Given the nature of the relationships that many a writer put out there, I sure can’t decipher what was legit or accurate.

    I think we all can agree, it wasn’t conducive to harmony, in any sense of the word.

    I’d also speculate that, Jed likely didn’t fire Harbaugh sooner, simply because of the Contract dollars involved.
    Harbaugh got raises for several Asst’s along the way too.

    It was an ugly divorce by anyone’s account.

  111. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    That report of Harbaugh calling out Jed was never substantiated and PFT ended up discounting it as bogus. Not that that will stop certain entities from endlessly repeating it like it was a fact.

  112. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    If you’re referring to certain entities as those of us who live in the Shire, I think you’re probably right. A friend of a friend of mine who works in the equipment department in Santa Clara told me it actually happened.

  113. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Of course Parcells was higher on the list than a NFL newcomer. Nobody gets upset over that, especially with other teams offering more money.

    Offensive philosophy? I call bullshit! Harbaugh’s philosophy got him more wins than any other coach and three conference championhips in three years. Anyone complaining about that is purely and provably an idiot.

    If you remember the Seattle game you’ll no doubt remember a terrible showing by Kaepernick. He insisted on shoving it down Sherman’s throat and kept throwing it to him. Twice for INTs. The defense had some great short yardage defenses forcing field goals and keeping Lynch out. Only a single TD in that game. Defense blew some coverages and made some bonehead plays. Kaepernick had one of his worst games yet. And Martin flat out sucked. Harbaugh’s fault? Yeah, sure it was.

    Who knew better than Harbaugh what Kaepernick could handle and what his weaknesses were? Some knuckleheads think we should just throw the ball and damn whether we have anyone who can do it.

    If you’re a good coach you play to win. You size up your opponent and come up with a game plan to beat him within the abilities of your players. Harbaugh was the best we’ve had at that for a long time and the best in the league at it for his first three years. Does anyone really think he got stupid overnight? And it took Jed York to spot it? Tell me another fairytale.

    I don’t understand how so many keep harping on made up shit to justify Harbaugh’s firing when everyone knows Harbaugh’s departure was a done deal before the season even got started. BEFORE THE SEASON EVEN GOT STARTED.

  114. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe someday we’ll get a book published NoFear49er?
    Sure would like to know how all this went down, from the principles involved.

    All we can do at this point is, to attempt to piece together all the various reports that have been put out there for reader consumption.

    All I can make of it is, the tension got to a point where no one could get together to repair it.

  115. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Good piece on Aldon from FOX.
    At the end of the piece there’s a link to the audio interview.

  116. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    As I said previously Jed with his tweet set his team up for the blindside by the media. The tweet went out before the players left the field. Created a firestorm and left players answering questions about what the owner said based on a tweet.
    Certainly the players and coaches hadn’t seen the tweet and were surprised.
    We all know that ambush tactics and sneak attacks are what cowards do.
    With the Niners still in the playoff race Jed’s dissatisfaction should’ve been kept in hosue and he should’ve
    gone in the locker room, closed the doors and told them how he felt.
    Anyway you slice it the tweet was a chickenshit tactic that served no purpose.
    I know out in Fairyland they were high fiving it when they read the tweet and it washed away all the bad feeling that came with the loss.

  117. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    More putrid BS from Fairyland.
    “I guess it is evidence because you say it is evidence. I say the next three losses prove what most of us fans knew, we were playing like shit and the record was for numbers people.”

    Wow now we have so called die hard 49er supporters knowing that we would lose to Oakland, San Diego and Seattle. Hindsight is 20 20 but I guarantee nobody at the time saw that coming despite what they post to make themselves look like they really know something which they obviously don’t.

  118. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    This is like a prize fight with two boxers who talk non-stop. Eventually, all the talk and blogging means nothing and it just comes down to what the 49ers do as a team. We have hashed and re-hashed who believes what under which circumstance, so now the only thing left is for us to sit back and watch and then make fun of each after after particular theories are proven. We need a good Mills Lane call, “Let’s get it on!!!” Enough of this posturing, already.

  119. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap’s inept play and poor decisions wee one of main reasons the Seahags cleaned the Niners clocks. The film doesn’t lie and Kap continually targets the covered receiver with other targets wide open. If this continues this team will be stuck in mediocrity as long as he’s at QB. Kap has to improve exponentially.

  120. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Also if you notice looking at the pictures Kap has a clean pocket
    and has time to pick and choose who the passes are going to.
    He’s not under duress.

  121. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The last sequence on that link is the play Chuck harped on over and over as an example of bad play calling. In fact, we had a wide open Hyde for a possible TD which Kap ignored in favor of a high-risk throw to the FB.

  122. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The film doesn’t lie.
    It’s not the scheme and gameplan, but the execution of the plays that have continually cost the offense.
    The Kap fanboys think Kap can do no wrong and it’s always somebody else’s fault.

    The film doesn’t lie and shows open receivers and wrong decisions which goes against the narrative that it’s always somebody else’s fault.

    This year it’s put up or shut up time. The excuses have dried up and it’s clearly on Kap’s shoulders in 2015.

  123. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    “The film doesn’t lie and shows open receivers and wrong decisions which goes against the narrative that it’s always somebody else’s fault.”

    I go through this every week during the season. Nobody cares unless the coaches tape tells “their” story the way “they” see it.

    The same reason I quit doing the screen grabs from it. Nobody wanted to see what they didn’t like. Nothing new there.

  124. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Wonder what the self important pompous jackass 12th man had to say after this Seattle flameout. He predicted playoffs recently for this team. Is he real or another one of chuck’s virtual posters.

    Berger and Winder are both 10-6 for this year. The all 22’s are devastating. Put up or shut up. Give lots of time and snaps for Gabbert in preseason. Set him up for Kap’s failure which looks likely. Hope like hell that all that EXOS tutelage works and will see a new Kap.

    This game is hard enough. Repeated mental mistakes cannot be tolerated in a franchise QB. What happened in the press treatment after these colossal QB failures. Is Kap sheltered by a praetorian guard media as well. He stinks. Better do a 180 reversal in first half of season.

    Otherwise pull the plug, Gabbert gets the rest of the year to determine his potential, and prepare to overspend on Manning or Rivers. 2016 draft is all O and whatever it takes to right this sorry ship.

    Lost any respect for those morons on the Homer blog. Give Kap half a season to show he has the capability to execute like Aaron Rodgers. Chuck says Kap has a Wonderlic of 38 and he is the future. Chuckie, berger, and 12th man sink or swim with Kap and the first 8 games as well.

  125. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Another reason for inability to find a reputable HC is they realized they would waste their 1st year on a Kap QB Renewal project. Let the backbenchers try and rework Kap. Start with a clean slate in 2016.

    All up to Kap. Ab workouts don’t help you find open receivers.

  126. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Why are you guys all hating on Kaep? Believe it or not, I was an Alex Smith fan for the first three or four years of his career. You have to give a young qb the chance to develop and mature. But I think we’d all agree that at some point you have to pull the plug. With Kaep, if I was still a 49er fan, I wouldn’t be ready to pull the plug on him.

  127. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Spit, he has 2.5 years as starting QB and 4 yes on the roster. A lot of time for QB study to sink in. No excuse for mental failures. All 22 is the acid test. He fails.

    Wish I could trust the O coaching staff. Maybe he deserves better. Alex Smith had worse than him. Alex handles the mental aspect.

    CK gets this year. TB obviously gun shy on investing a 1st or 2nd Rd pick in WR1. CK cannot elevate players yet, if ever.

    We are stuck with him this year. Hope TB constantly fielding and proposing offers for him. Does not have it upstairs so always need a strong D to get one of his teams in the playoffs. Ceiling is Joe Flacco. Never a top QB.

  128. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    A lot of you guys are working on pure hate and an agenda when it comes to Kaep. 2 and a half years as the starting qb isn’t enough time to decide that Kaep is a bust. Instead of looking at it objectively, a lot of you guys are looking for Kaep to fail already. That’s life…

  129. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    That is the perplexing thing about all this.
    Kap has cost the Niners a situation where he is a great part of the problem with his mistakes on why they didn’t advance or win it all, yet you have a constant flurry of excuses being made on his behalf.
    You know in your heart if we had better QB play we might have won #6 and possibly 7 because we had the Seahags on the ropes and Kap’s underthrow was tipped for an INT.

    The truth is all the mistakes made in the big games have derailed the Niners and they have sealed games where we were on the brink of winning but instead were nails in the coffin.

    The lack of starting experience holds no water considering the success of the guy up north Russell Wilson.

    I said several years ago that the vets on this team Gore and Justin didn’t have the time for Kap to mature.
    Instead of getting better, Kap slid backwards last year in his development.

  130. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of so called “49er fans” you must remember what Berger stated on this blog last season.
    He was hoping that the Niners would lose the rest of their games even though we were still in the race if the end result was Roman getting canned.
    So this current bluster of righteous indignation is all BS.

    Sorry dude, you’re the last guy that can question loyalty because you packed it in last year.

  131. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – Let me make a few points about Kaep and see if you can debate these points.

    1.) Young qbs make mistakes. You don’t have to be an apologist to realize that. Who has had more success? Cam, Andy or Kaep? The answer is Kaep. And Andy has had pretty damn good teams in Cinci.

    2.) What games has Kaep’s play cost the Niners? Don’t say the Seattle NFC game because the 49er offense was doing nothing that day. Brady, Favre or Rogers would have struggled in that game as veteran qbs because Frank Gore was going no where all game. If you take the run away, and make the offense one dimensional, the qb, especially a young qb, has no chance.

    3.) While you struggle to name games Kaep has lost, I can name several he’s won on his own.

  132. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    It’s pretty hilarious, Spitty. The same guys are still pining for their Golden Boy who they believe could do no wrong here. Golden Boy’s career highlight through season 7 was holding the clipboard on the sideline watching the career nobody QB who had beaten him out for the job lead the team to .500, something Golden Boy had never done. It was always the receivers, the blocking, the defense, the wind, the new cheerleader, something that caused the Niners to fail badly year after year. Golden Boy was THE MAN.

    Yet Kappy, with his 2 NFFCGs and 1 SB in 3 years, with better stats through 3 years than Peyton Manning or John Elway, is playing horribly and is the problem and on the hotseat. They refuse to acknowledge the 52 sacks, the league sack allowed leader for guards at LG, Jonathan Martin and Marcus Martin actually starting games, or the reason the Niners were undefeated when they had the same O-line for the 2nd week in a row in 2014.

    Amusing, no?

  133. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Of the 52 sacks PFF has determined that only 5 have been a result of a guy running free at Kap. The sack argument does not have as much merit as some of you guys think. What’s happening again here is putting the blame on someone else.
    The article and analysis cites two major factors, Kap holding the ball longer than he should and slow developing plays.

    To correct this is very easy, if the big play isn’t there check it down. Holding the ball and gertting sacked just puts your team in the hole.

    Tired of listening to excuses. I have always advocated in drafting a QB just to compete but Baalke has done the opposite and we live or die with Kap since he has drafted no QBs of consequence.
    Last year we died and the question is are we in for more of the same? That’s all on Kap to make measured improvement.

  134. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    RT- Kaep’s the third best “young” qb in the game behind Luck and Wilson. I have no problem with Kaep, and I think I’m being objective. What makes the qb position so hard is that people either love you or hate you. It’s not like a linebacker or guard that fans can be neutral about.

  135. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Crap play design if only 1 big play. Plays have up to 5 receivers. Typically a good QB CAN work to at least 3 before throwing away or dump to RB. Peyton has been known to go thru all 5 on occasion.

  136. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Five’s a joke. I saw Staley give up a straight-to-the-QB sack in under 2 seconds flat. It was highlighted in instant replay. Staley was their best pass protector.

    How many sacks did Kap avoid through his escapability and running ability? I don’t remember Alex running 90 yards for a TD like Kap did in week 16 against SD. I remember him dismembering hotdog vendors because he was scared shitless of throwing the ball within the field of play.

  137. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Cannot ignore that NFCCG

    When your QB fumbles when he’s stripped sacked and throws 2 INTs all in the 4th quarter in a 3 point game, to me that is pissing away any chance your team has to win the game.

    Last INT thrown was on 1st down. If Joe or Steve threw that INT I would hold them responsible for blowiong the game. It was crunch time and a chance to shine. Kap basically choked.

  138. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I see that somebody’s new love Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, and Andrew Luck also rank in the top 10 in time holding the ball.

    I guess it’s not their fault, though. Only Kappy from pining-for-Alex folks.

  139. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Let me jog your memory. Not 90 yds but far more significant in a playoff game. Guess you forgot???

  140. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Those 3 guys hold onto the ball but they get results.

    The point is Kap takes too many sacks when he should get rid of the ball. If the play isn’t there check it down or throw it away.
    3rd and 7 is much easier than 3rd and 14. By taking the sacks Kap kills drives.

  141. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Two/fifths of last year’s usual starting O-line are not starting because they are not wanted on any team in the league even as a waterboy or they’ve been benched before TC even starts.

    But that’s Kappy’s fault. Those guys should be starting again.

  142. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Luck and Rodgers can get away with holding the ball longer because they can read blitzes and make the D pay so blitzing happens less. Pocket awareness, they can tell where breakdowns are happening and move to avoid it. Like walking and chewing gum at the same time.

    With competent QB’s the D has to behave better.

  143. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Also Roman did not give Kap enough check down options. So if 1st or 2nd receivers covered throw it away. He needs to have a clock in his head to minimize coverage sacks. Those are on him, not the guys in the trenches.

    He needs to spend less time on public image and elevate his mental game.

  144. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Iaputi was ranked 55th in the league by PFF in pass blocking for guards. Now, Iaputi wasn’t even one of the two players I previously mentioned, and he started every game.

    Now, let’s do the math. 32 teams, 2 guards per team = 64 guards. Only 9 teams in the league had one guard (and only one guard) worse at pass blocking than Iaputi last year.

    Hmmm, that’s 3 of last year’s starting O-line who totally sucked at pass blocking.

    Oh, and Kappy had 639 yards rushing for a 6.1 (!) average. Holding onto the ball and gaining positive yardage counts in there. So a less mobile QB, behind that pathetic O-line would’ve either had boatloads of INTs or boatloads of sacks.

    Nah, Iaputi and the Martin twins were just peachy and it’s all Kappy’s fault. LOL

    What was Alex’s record in the playoffs after 7 seasons in the league again? Oh that’s right, he was never the starter on a .500 team. Shawn Hill was. Playoffs??? LOL. How peeps sing a different tune now.

  145. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    RT – Well written, excellent points but you won’t change their minds.

    Making a judgement on Kaep right now, either way, is like declaring a fine wine your greatest vintage two weeks after picking the grapes. It’s like running a one year old Colt around the track and declaring him a Derby winner. It’s like talking with a young Bill Gates and determining early on he’s going nowhere. It’s too damn early…but with this coaching staff there will be no Derby winner regardless how great the garage vintner’s ability (You morons see what I did there?). Of course you didn’t…

  146. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    RT, all you say is true, but Kaepernick had his share of lousy play last year even taking into account all the peripheral things that weren’t his fault.

    He was rated #28 with an accumulated grade of -10.1. Below such as Cousins, Sanchez and Shaun Hill. Alex Smith was 16th for comparison.

    According to PFF he had negative grades in seven games, neutral grades in four and positive grades in five games last year.

    If we’re honest, we have to call Kaepernick out for the things he screws up. I still think Kaepernick can be the guy. I think it’s within his reach if he works hard enough for it. But if I see another biceps kiss I’ll kiss him off.

  147. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Sure Kap that spectacular 90 yard run against San Diego. To offset that Liguet stripped sacked him and scored a TD on the fumble recovery.
    Unfortunately you are taking his highlight play of the year and there are very few plays of similar nature week in and week out.

    If you expect your team to be a winner it needs more than the QB contributing one TD a week. Consider that the rushing offense contributed 10 TDs for the entire season and you will see the pressure that is put on the QB.

    You are aware that last year they tried to pass more an run less and that put more pressure on the QB and Kap was not up to the challenge. Not a single 4th quarter TD pass says it all.

  148. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The film doesn’t lie.

    Further evidence that Kap could’ve done better.
    Sacked 8 times the film shows he could’ve avoided 5 of them
    and determined that on only 2 of the 8 was it unavoidable.

    The film shows open receivers but Kap seems to lock on one guy and ignore targets running wide open.

    The film doesn’t lie.

  149. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    RT, please read the bleacher report article that bullit provided. Also the niners nation all 22 article he also provided.

    The Seattle game pass blocking was not an issue. They rushed four most of the time. Blitzed only 7 of CK’s 36 dropbacks. He was missing open receivers and constantly made poor decisions. NN also is a little bit Homer and he still got panned.

    In bleacher report only 5 of 52 sacks were under 2.5 seconds which is 100% oline. He holds onto the ball too long. Blake Bortles and Jay Cutler had bad lines. CK was his own worst enemy.

    Be honest. He is not good. He was forced to go to EXOS because TB and OC told him to get his act together. Hopefully his incompetence is fixable. Read both articles. Otherwise you sound just like the Homer blog.

  150. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Russell Wilson can scramble, change direction and accelerate quickly. Modern day Fran Tarkenton. Kap is a long striding straight ahead runner. RW can get good results stretching plays. CK gets sacked.

  151. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17