The Betting Window Is Open

[UPDATE: Monday evening the 49ers signed Randy Moss to a one year contract. See the comment section for the various thoughts of Outsider readers regarding this unexpected development.]

Tuesday at 4:00pm EDT, the 2012 Free Agency gates swing open, freeing hundreds of football players who have been enslaved by six and seven figure per year contracts. We already had an eight figure slave emancipated last week. When we start seeing nine figure guys get unshackled, we’ll know it’s time to look heavenward and sigh, “I’m coming to join you, Elizabeth.”

This year’s FA class is a bit larger than normal because last year’s class, due to the lockout, had only a short window of opportunity and many of them just signed one year contracts, with an eye toward re-entering free agency again this year. The 49ers’ Carlos Rogers was one of these guys. He’ll now have a full FA period to shop himself, but there are more CBs to choose from, too, which could lower his value.

It’s no secret the 49ers will be looking for a WR. Maybe more than one. Randy Moss will be catching passes from Jim Harbaugh today, just in case there is any tread left on Moss’s wheels. And it’s his wheels that are going to be more important than his hands during this workout. If Moss can’t run anymore, he’s useless. His attitude will probably get the Harbaugh psyche eval, too.

The team will also be looking for a CB, a safety, an OLB, and an ILB. All of these acquisitions must be good special teams players. Only the WR and the CB have a shot to be starters. Also on the FA list of wishes would be that Peyton Manning and Red Bryant sign up with AFC teams, or at least non-NFC West teams.

Jason LaCanfora is a fairly reliable source of rumors, but he said over the weekend that Manning should sign with the Cardinals because the NFC West was there for the taking. Hello! Sorry, Jason, but this is a pretty ignorant statement. If you want a division that is there for the taking, look no further than the AFC West. And Manning to Denver would have the additional amusement of making Tim Tebow cry in public.

The Rams are getting a lot of love for supposedly fleecing the Redskins and getting a boatload of draft picks that will surely transform them into a contender. As far as I can tell, they have picked up only three additional picks, and only one occurs this year — a second rounder. In addition, they’ve dropped out of the top five in this year’s draft, meaning they will get a lesser valued player than what they could have had. This does not appear to significantly improve their team this year, and may even have a lessened impact.

The Redskins are betting the house and will either have another Cam Newton to show for it or be a team that will have bottom feeder written all over it for the next several years. If Robert Griffin is the real deal, though, the picks they gave up for him will be well worth what they got in exchange.

The Rams are betting the house, too, on Sam Bradford. If he approaches the 2010 Bradford, they’ll be alright, but if he settles into the 2011 Bradford, the Rams will be in deep trouble, the kind of trouble two extra quality players will not bail them out of.

The Bay Area beat writers would have us think that the 49ers and Alex Smith are at a contractual impasse that may result in Smith leaving via FA. But this is manufactured drama. Smith has no desire to play elsewhere, other teams know that, and there’s no way Trent Baalke and Harbaugh are going to jeopardize the 2012 season by changing QBs or insulting the one they have. The two sides will work out a mutually acceptable contract sometime before the first OTAs begin. There’s nothing magical about the beginning of FA as a deadline.

Deadlines do help move negotiations to fruition, though, and there should be quite a few guys re-signing with their old teams today and tomorrow. Hopefully we’ll get some relief from the All Manning channel soon, too. However, expecting relief from the All Alex channel is surely asking for too much.

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161 comments on “The Betting Window Is Open
  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This outta ruin the Alex Haters day

    Spitoon should just stop making prdictions. Hint Ms Cleo is just ripping off the clurless one.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Aints are a team in chaos with the bounty scndal penalties about to come down.If you were thinking it’s going to be business as usual for the Aints
    in 2012, think again. Bress is a very unhappy QB after being franchised.Nicks says he’s leaving unless he gets paid more than Evans, the other guard.
    Colston will probably sign elsewhere as he’s in demand and that changes the dynamics of their passing offense. Then drfat choices will be stripped and coaches and players suspended. Business as usual? Hah!

  3. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Thanx for the link Bullit….thats good news..i hope they work this out…if Smith and his agent were stuck on 5 years, i just didnt see the niners going for that…

  4. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    When I get home from work today I would like to read we signed a couple, or three, of our own. Maybe I’ll check in from work.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You really have to wonder what Manning and his agents are hiding.
    Great leap of faith to sign Manning without benefit of a workout. The acts of desperate team.
    Niners went 13-3 and are not a desperate team. Money is the bottom line here, otherwise there wouldn’t be such a public tour around the US with Manning eliminating certain teams publicly.

  6. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    T minus 16 hours until free agency begins. I’m with Berger. Hope the 49ers sign Snyder and Ginn. If they don’t, they could have their eyes on a bigger free agent acquisition, and think Kilgore can fill in or trust Solari to find Snyder’s replacement.

  7. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Tramaine Brock has been re-signed.

  8. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    For what it’s worth:
    SAN FRANCISCO (CBS 5) – San Francisco 49ers Quarterback Alex Smith told CBS5’s Kim Coyle tonight that reports of his demand for a five-year contract are “completely false,” and that he’s happy with the three year deal offered by the 49ers. Smith said his agent and the 49ers are working out the details and that he expects to sign a new contract with San Francisco.

  9. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry, fistie. Of all the FAs, Ginn is the most easily replaced. Doesn’t mean he won’t be signed, just that he’s not high on their list of priorities. I mean really. The KR should have SOME ability to catch passes. As far as Snyder goes, I think he’s holding out to see what happens with Nicks. The market is going to be flooded with so many players that it behooves some of these guys to see what shakes out.

  10. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Moss is a 100% flier. I don’t think it happens at all. Jim Harbaugh’s taking a page from the George Allen playbook.
    It doesn’t even qualify as a message to Ginn, as Ginn would always be the last option at WR. If Morgan signs, he’s over Ginn. Anyone else they get is over Ginn.

  11. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Another mini-scandal breaking out. From Schefter:
    “NFL is taking away millions of dolllar of salary-cap space from Cowboys and Redskins for how they front-loaded deals during uncapped year.”

  12. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe they want to sign Moss as a punt returner.

  13. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    “Ginn is the most easily replaced.” Monday morning and Unca’s already starting the week off with a hot cup of stupid. Speed isn’t easily replaced. And kick returners are a valuable commodity. Remember Kyle Williams? The guy you were threatening after the NFC Championship game? Lol. Damn, you’re dumb.
    Who cares about front-loading deals? If there’s no cap, and the Redskins and Cowboys were smart enough to front load stuff, good for them. The 49ers kind of did it with Patrick Willis last year. Only difference was the 49ers didn’t spend as much.
    Glad to hear we got Brock back. Fangio likes that kid.

  14. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    “Maybe they want to sign Moss as a punt returner.”
    Moss hasn’t returned a punt since 1999. Yes. 1999. Prince and the Revolution have a better chance recording another hit single. Two thousand zero zero party over oops, out of time.

  15. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Jed York just told this to his secret employee, Matt Maiocco – “”Jim and trent want to see if he [Moss] can play,” York said. “We need to add somebody who can stretch the field and it’s up to those guys to see if he’s a fit.”
    In my opinion, the 49ers have made an offer to Ted Ginn, and Ginn doesn’t like it and will test the free agent market. I think Baalke and Harbaugh are just using Randy Moss to scare Ginn. Who would you rather have? Ginn or Moss? I’ll take Ginn all day over Moss.

  16. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    It’s so easy, according to Unca, to replace Ginn, the 49ers have to bring in a guy who wasn’t even playing in the NFL last year and have an ex qb long since retired throw him footballs. Yeah… sounds easy.

  17. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    The 49ers did the exact same thing as the Cowboys and Redskins with the Patrick Willis contract. It doesn’t matter that the Cowboys and Redskins spent more last year because it was an upcapped year. The issue is the future value. I could see the NFL including the 49ers in the cap room loss. The NFL better hurry up, though, and name the 49ers, because if they don’t, tomorrow the 49ers are scott-free. Why? Budget. You don’t fine us, and we set our budget accordingly, you can’t then hit the 49ers with a reduction in cap space after we’ve spent aggressively in free agency.

  18. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Per Schefter, the league will punish the teams by removing millions in cap dollars.

    How many millions? Schefter reports that the Cowboys will lose more than $10 million — and that the Redskins will lose $36 million. (And now we know why the Redskins got the Griffin deal done last week; the Rams likely would have wanted even more for the second overall pick now.)

    The teams can divide the cap losses between 2012 and 2013 in any portion they want. As of Sunday, the Redskins more than $30 million in cap space in 2012. The Cowboys had less than $5 million.

    The money will be reallocated to the other teams, with every franchise except the Saints and Raiders picking up $1.6 million in extra cap space. (The Saints and Raiders presumably don’t get the extra money as their own punishment for engaging in similar tactics in 2010.)

    So, for the second time in 10 days, the NFL has acknowledged cheating. Though this isn’t as serious as the Saints’ bounty system, it’s still cheating. And the consequence demonstrates what the league thinks of it.

  19. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If Morgan didn’t get hurt, Ginn would have had even less playing time. What is your major malfunction, skippy?
    Ginn is a 4th stringer. Moss would rate a little higher, eh?

  20. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Al, I never met a guy who enjoys face planting himself as much as you.

  21. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Are you saying Moss is a punt returner?
    LMFAO. Good one, skippy.

  22. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The punk returner remark was not meant to be taken seriously.

  23. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Owners just got more leverage over players. Case in point – Carlos Rogers. I thought Rogers was slated for the Cowboys. If Skeebers is right, that the Cowboys only have 5 million left, they’ll need that to sign their current rookie class, taking the Cowboys right out of the free agency game.

  24. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    There’s going to be a lot of salary dumps by tomorrow afternoon. The Cardinals, for instance, are $16.4 mil OVER the cap right now. They have to be in compliance by tomorrow.

  25. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That bodes well for the Niners because Dallas needs DB help in the worst way.
    Skeets Nehemiah had speed, Stinkfoot. Look where it got him.

  26. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, I’m referring to Tinkle’s assertion that Moss is coming in to replace Ted Ginn.
    Patently ludicrous. Tell me again how Irsay won’t let Manning go without compensation.
    Crabs is slow, Tinkle-belle, and he had 875 yards receiving. Morgan (who doesn’t have Ginn’s speed) started 4 games. Ginn started 9. They both had 220 yards. Why didn’t his speed do anything while he played?
    Ginn is a KR. Nothing more. Fumbduck.

  27. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Oh, that’s right, Joe couldn’t throw the long ball either.
    Leave it to Stinkle to denigrate Joe Montana. What an asshole.

  28. AlbertEinskinkleNo Gravatar says:

    You’re reaching, there. Montana was the best quarterback ever, and Alex Smith could be the worst. In addition, let’s not forget that you hate Jerry Rice and don’t think he knows anything about good quarterback play. LMAO…. whatta wet brain.

  29. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Reaching? Look at everything you post, Tinkle-belle. Wow. A new low in 4th grade discourse. Tell me gain how Randy Moss is here to replace Ted Ginn. Yer a regular Henny Youngmann.
    ‘Disproportionate’ is a pretty subjective term NoFear. But it’s what the NFL based the fines for Cowboys and Indians on. I have no idea how the Skins or Boys set up their deals last year, but wasn’t the league paying attention? I’m sure the NFL’s take on it was, “let’s let the lockout strife cool down, let everyone get fat and happy after a successful season, and then ‘whammo!’ Here comes de judgement.”

  30. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    FYI, Larry Grant’s tender was upgraded from original round to RFA tender. Or maybe it was just reported wrong. I can’t figure that out. In either case, it’ll be a little harder for a team to sign him away. And the Niners ould get better compensation.

  31. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Rams cut Jason Brown. Say, Al, wasn’t he the super duper bruiser FA that was going to make that Ram line impenetrable a couple years ago?

  32. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers – your panties in a bunch a day early. Tomorrow’s the day you’re gonna be cranky. Addressing the left tackle position is never a bad idea unless your starting quarterback is Alex Smith. Then you shouldn’t start one at all. 4 down offensive linemen required.

  33. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:


  34. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Brown was a center.

  35. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Just yanking your chain, Al. I’m sure you’ll be right about something one of these days.

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  39. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Eternity is pretty big. It should cover you.

  40. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- PFT is reporting that the league warned all teams several times not to dump salaries in an uncapped year. Apparently, Dallas and Washington ignored the warnings.

  41. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Cardinals just got under the cap by cutting Levi Brown and his $17 mil cap number. That was easy.

  42. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    You cut Levi and you have to wonder about the Cardinals’ ability to protect Manning.

  43. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You claim to be a Niner supporter and fan. The key word is the word CLAIM. You sure have a funny way of showing it. The 49ers are guilty as the Cowboys and Redskins? Please stop commenting on issues you don’t understand.
    You are a total fool here.

  44. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So Spitoon now appears to be a bigger fool. The salary cap money taken away from the Coboys and Redskins will be redistributed to all the NFL teams with the exception of Aints and Raiduhs and the NFL Players Association have given their blessing to this.
    Dumbass Spitoon said what about the Niners? They are guilty too.
    Spoken like a true supporter? I’ve always said Spitoon is a troll and a poser.

  45. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    “Ginn is the most easily replaced.”
    As a WR, I’d say yes. As a kick returner, I’d say no. I seem to remember a pretty shitty return game until Ginn came along. It would be great if he could catch a pass or two, for sure, but the return game was/is pretty important.
    That said, if Ginn thinks he’s going to get top dollar for being a fast kick returner who can’t catch a cold, then he won’t be getting it from the niners.

  46. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    2 guys who are also unrestricted FAs are Eddie Royal and Roscoe Parrish. Both have career punt return averages higher than Ginn and Royal has proven himself to be an elusive receiver although he got lost in Tebowmania last year. There are viable alternatives that might be more reasonable moneywise.

  47. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Good thinking, Bullit. Bet Royal and Parrish will be soooo much cheaper than Ginn. Spot on.

  48. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Royal’s the guy I’d like to see . . .
    Well, they CAN catch. Ginn will not be catching passes for the Niners next year if he stays.
    That’s the point you don’t ever seem to understand, skippy. If Ginn is on the field as a WR, then the other WRs are injured.
    Let’s see if that sinks in this time.

  49. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    did someone here really say randy moss ???

    omg !

    if we sign randy moss i’m buying a gun … please shoot me !

  50. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    49ers have signed Moss to a one year deal. Wow.

  51. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Hope it’s a water pistol, Rob.

  52. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    oops i mean shucks , the best part of “eddieball” is that eddie would have figured out a way to get around this too i’m thinkin’

    😉 !!!

  53. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Either we aren’t stone or aren’t rolling because we gathered Moss!

  54. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    well skeebs , i survived braylon edwards … and mike nolan come to think of it 😉
    so i’m thinkin i’ll survive randy moss too !

    at least i hope so !

    any word on if it’s the kind of contract that will let us pretty much tear it up at any time without it being too costly ?

    to me randy moss is pretty much in the same league as terrell ownens ! great talent , but way too much of a head case … and way too old ! imho both of them are pretty much a complete waste of time at this point !

  55. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    i bet you’re real happy now !

    you wanted our key guys signed up by now,and instead we got … randy moss !
    lol !

    any word on our own guys yet ?

  56. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    is anybody here within hearing distance of their phone ?

    because i’m calling !


  57. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    What you’re hoping for with Moss is, to keep him motivated for the Ring.
    He should be somewhat humbled after floating around like a hot dog wrapper at Candlestick during his last stint.
    No doubt his Contract is worded in such a way to make it palpable for both sides.
    The guy is a glider with the most amazing ‘rear view’ vision I’ve ever seen.
    With the high and dying quails Alex is known to throw, Moss could thrive here.
    At least that’s what we’re hoping for.

  58. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Moss over the middle, Smith throws a little high – alligator arms. The Alexuses begin anew. Smith lovers say Randy’s washed up. Skeeber and Unca right now are texting each other that Randy is washed up. Me, personally, I think Randy’s in the prime of his career and the only reason he was out of football and traded by the Pats was because he made the other receivers look bad. It was really a confidence thing. Raiders, Pats, Vikings and Titans all couldn’t contain his greatness.
    Moss will do a few things. He’ll bring star power to San Francisco. Not that Patrick Willis isn’t a star. But Moss is a legit “has been,” (opps, I mean he’s legitimately in the prime of his career). He’ll bring a new dimension to the 49ers of confidence, and it might, MIGHT be a good thing for Crabtree, and the new receiver I hope the 49ers draft in the first round.
    I don’t think his attitude will be an issue, but it will test Harbaugh, which is a good thing. Moss, I believe, will respect Jim Harbaugh until the end, and be a positive influence. I think Brad Childress was a chump. Randy’s respect needs to be earned, and I think Jim probably has Randy’s respect just by Jim’s rookie year in the NFL. How Jim handles Randy’s alligator arms is another story. But my guess is that Moss doesn’t run many routes over the middle. Moss will run fades in the back of the end zone, go routes and out routes – stuff that protects him and doesn’t leave his older body exposed.
    But don’t kid yourself, just because he’s old, doesn’t mean he isn’t in the prime of his life. Don’t blame Randy… And Randy might spell the end of my beloved Ted Ginn. Hope Teddy goes to a team with a quarterback. Alex Smith, Chad Henne and Troy Smith aren’t good.
    Alex now has Vernon Davis, Crabtree, Randy Moss and maybe a first round draft choice wide receiver. Ha ha. The Alexuces are dwindling. 200 yard performances won’t be enough for much longer for Smith.
    One thing I do want to see is Colin Kaepernick throwing deep to Randy Moss. That’ll be fun to watch.

  59. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    It’s a 1yr deal Albert, nothing to sweat.
    If you get a motivated Moss, he helps this Offense, if not, Braylon Pt II.

  60. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not sweating it. I think Moss will be a positive influence.

  61. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We’ll be adding Draft picks at the position too.
    I’m more jacked to see who gets the card to be Baalkes’ answer to be Franks’ future replacement.
    Hoping for Doug Martin or Robert Turbin.

  62. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    With Harbaugh being the high energy guy he is, maybe Randy gets onboard and keeps it loose and positive as well?
    I agree, doesn’t worry me either.

  63. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll make you a bet Doug Martin goes to the Lions. I’m more pumped about a passing game. Kaep to Moss? A running game? Yeah, we got that.

  64. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No brainer with a one-year deal. Ginn is back to ST where he belongs. IF he stays.
    You think Moss is running over the middle?
    Good one.

  65. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yer batting .000 this offseason, skippy. Keep up the perfect record.

  66. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s work on our comprehension skills, shall we. I just freakin’ posted this.
    “But my guess is that Moss doesn’t run many routes over the middle. Moss will run fades in the back of the end zone, go routes and out routes – stuff that protects him and doesn’t leave his older body exposed.”

  67. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    NFL Scout Matt Williamson just tweeted this…
    “R Moss to 49ers. They really needed a deep threat, but don’t have a deep ball passer…can’t fault the move, but would still draft WR high.”
    Damn straight. But Williamson also tweeted he loved Kaep over Dalton. There’s your “deep ball passer.” It sure ain’t Smith. Smith couldn’t put a ball in a jugs machine and connect thirty yards down the field.

  68. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Except for the times he did with VD.

  69. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You think I read past the first 6 words?
    LMFAO. Prime of his career? Uh, no. He rested, sure. Let’s see if he makes it through camp before crowning him prime time.
    Just cuz you say it usually means go Costanza and co oppo.
    He’s here to do what Braylon couldn’t. And that’s to resurrect a sagging (or ended in his case) career.

  70. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith is in trouble. Tomorrow he gets a serious look in the mirror, without any suitors, at the start of free agency, and now Randy Moss is in town to make him look bad… er, worse…er, end his starting career in San Francisco. KAEP!!!! KAEP!!!! KAEP!!!!!
    Sweet Jesus, be still my heart. The end is near. Randy’s in his prime!!!

  71. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Wow, Randy Moss is a 49er. Huge news. Just went over to Chuck’s blog and……

  72. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, it’s been up for 5 minutes, and I’ve got more posts than your last 3 months.
    Bravo, dickless wonder. I guess you never tire of looking stupid or being wrong.

  73. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Oh come on, NoFear. Mossy is going to expose Alex Smith for the noodle-armed QB that he is.
    Get on board.

  74. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – Moss is more name than production. But Belicheck did say Moss was the smartest receiver he’s ever coached. Maybe the 49ers will start actually attacking teams through the air. Maybe some of Randy’s smarts will rub off on Crabtree and the new rookie wide receiver. I say “maybe,” because rubbing doesn’t necessarily equal smarts – ask Chuck (and I’m not talking about financial advise, or any other advice for that matter).

  75. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gee, NoFear. If anything this should HELP Crabs. See, if Moss draws coverage deep, then Crabs should be open underneath. Of course that means he still has to beat someone. Unless you think like Soft-serve that Ginn was doing that job spectacularly.
    Football 101.

  76. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Really, No Fear? The Niners run? Tell that to your compadre. He doesn’t get it.
    Edwards was hurt, skippy. Bad knee, bad shoulder. Remember? Oh yeat, if you don’t know, make it up.

  77. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    875 is so terrible from crabs, and 800 from VD. In a running offense. You answer your own questions and question them.
    Football for sub-morons.

  78. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Fall back on the usual inanity, NoFear.
    Who do you like in the draft? Or free agency? Should the Niners keep Rogers? Go after Brandon Carr? Manning? Flynn?
    Do you know anything about the 49ers except for your pre-conceived notions and blind hatred toward Smith? Seriously.

  79. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And…in continuing Draft Research efforts, this kid is apparently on our radar –

  80. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Immortal words from our favorite mortal backup RB, Dixon,
    “You have to account for him whenever he’s on the field. Everybody knows that.”
    Well, I’m not sure that Moss signing is necessarily bad. I will say that accounting for him trumps accounting for Ginn. 954 vs 159 career stats might have something to do with that. But the question really is can Smith use/find him? Our pedestrian WR corp was not that hard to improve, really. But we need to find a gem in the draft, whether it is Smith or CK throwing it.
    Bullit — yeah, and Royal can catch. I had him on my FF team as a rook, and he could get open AND catch. It’s all moot if Smith can’t deliver, but you still need targets.

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Randys’ signing has an added incentive for us.
    We play the AFC East.
    barley, us and the WR position is like shopping for shoes.
    Keep trying them on until something fits.
    Deep Draft class at WR too. A vet to help now, a couple of Rookies to groom later.

  82. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    i’m about as excited about the randy moss signing as i was when they hired jimmy raye for chrissakes !

  83. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    i want

    #1 pick (even if we have to trade up)

    *** floyd WR notre dame

    free agent

    *** vincent jackson

    #2 pick
    *** best D lineman on the board !

  84. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    NJ 49er

    you still out there ? got any good 2nd rd D linemen ?

  85. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I love the Randy Moss acquisition for the 49ers. Financial terms were not disclosed, but I think they will be at some point. I’d like to know what they’re paying him.
    I don’t think Moss will have 500 yards receiving, but I think Randy’s impact will be as a player coach, helping Crabtree, Vernon and Kaepernick. I’d say he’d help Smith, but you can’t help that sad sack. I like the Randy Moss acquisition, not as a player, but as a presence. He’s an example – a Moss quote.
    “That’s funny you ask that, sweetheart,” Moss said. “Yes, he can still bring it at his old age. I don’t know, he’s probably sitting there with an ice pack or something on his shoulder right now. He can still wing it.” He should have dropped a “sugar,” on her to end the quote.

  86. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:


  87. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Ginn and Morgan are free agents and Kyle Williams is owed $19,000 as a signing bonus for ’13, which, in my mind, makes him a free agent needing to earn a roster spot like everyone else on the team not named Crabtree. Even though we just signed Moss, he isn’t a shoe-in to make the squad. If the 49ers carry five, they still need three. I could see Harbaugh completely overhauling the wide receivers. Moss, Vernon, Crabtree, Kendal Hunter, and two or three more targets, along with Colin Kaepernick? I may stop blogging. There may be nothing left to hate in Ninerland. Actually, silly me, I’ll find something…

  88. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The fun begins at one pee em.

  89. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. NoFear made three comments last night! Diarrhea breath, igloo dude!

  90. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers – what’s it like to own a blog and not know football? Lol.
    Alex Smith is officially a free agent on the open market. Yippee… let the market crush him!

  91. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I am unable to decipher some of NoFear’s posts. He likes to talk in code and I don’t have the Idaho
    backwoods decoder ring. I do not speak innuendo.

  92. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Always getting everything wrong because you are clueless. Oficially Smith is not a free agent until 1pm. But you are clueless.
    Washington and Dallas used last year’s uncapped year to dump a lot of their bonuses to gain an advantage. As usual
    you are ignorant to say the Niners did the same with Patrick Willis. Wrong again. The Niners restructured the Willis contract to pay him $17 mil THIS YEAR which is a capped year. So before you throw the Niners under the bus you ought to understand what your talking about.
    Talking out of both sides of your mouth is never a good thing.

  93. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit: “I don’t have the Idaho backwoods decoder ring.”
    I have to call bs on that one. You forged the original ring in the lava of MooseJaw mountain, and brought forth a new way for all Alabamians. Now you turn your back? How awful.

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If Randy Moss starts 16 games for the Niners anything less than 700 yards and 8 TDs would be a failure.
    If he’s used as a situational player then the expectaions change.

  95. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Pats are going after Amendola
    who has a second round tender from the Rams and are willing to
    give up the second rd pick.
    They might take both Lloyd and Amendola away from the Rams.

  96. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I want to see Manning throw a football. The 49ers are crazy not to bring him in for an interview and have him throw the rock around. Let’s just say for a second that Alex Smith was never born (be still my heart), and we had some scrub for a qb, with Colin Kaepernick warming up in the bully. Wouldn’t we bring in Peyton then? I want to see that guy throw a football.

  97. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    We are being rumored in the Paul Solai(sp) chase. I like it. Problem for me is I haven’t wastched him play so I’m not sure how he fits. What I do know is he is a NT that was recently franchised and I was wanting to draft him out of college. Some NT depth would be great.

  98. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Manning can easily just have a throwing session where he goes through an entire eoute tree, put it on video and distribute it to all interested employers.
    Instead he chooses to go on his nationwide tour having teams kiss his ass and creating a media circus.
    He’s got something to hide and is messing up a bunch of franchises.
    How do you think Hasslebeck and Locker feel in Tennessee? Much like Kolb and Tebow.

  99. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Manning is NOT throwing for anyone during these interviews, skippy. What makes you think he’ll throw for SF?
    Oh yeah. You didn’t know. . .

  100. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I lived in LA when the Rams got Joe Namath. Everybody was so excited. Guess what? He sucked.
    I’m not giving any money to any QB who does not want to throw after coming off of surgery. Some moron will give him plenty. Maybe it will work for them, but for the kind of money he’ll want I would want to see what I am buying first.

  101. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    You lived in LA when Namath played there? Were you in your sixties?
    I don’t care about the Manning circus. I don’t even really pay attention, but I do want to see him throw. The intentionally leaked Youtube video didn’t impress me. Not a lot on that fastball. I want to see the fastball. That’s it. The footwork and knowledge will be there. If the fastball ain’t, he’s useless.

  102. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Then there’s that You Tube video of a guy in a Manning Jersey wearing a Colts helmet. Wearing the helmet masks the identity of the passer. The fact that this looks like a UFO video, or one of Bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster makes you wonder. Then you have his shill Brandon Stokely saying that Manning was throwing like he did 5 years ago. If he was going to throw for anyone it would have been for the Colts because there was $26 Mil on the table.

  103. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NFL Networks just reported the Moss contract is for $2.5 Mil for the year. No other details.
    All the NFL Network guys, Heath Evans, Warren Sapp and Steve Wyche said this was a win win for the Niners. Evans said Moss was one of the best teammates he’s ever played with. Consesus he does well when the locker room has a winning attitude. When the locker room is fragmented he loses interest and keeps to himself.
    The Game 98.5 just reported another additional $1.5 mil in incentives on the Moss contract

  104. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I was hoping the 49ers would get a better deal.

  105. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    He still has to make the team. I’d say a month of TC and four preseason games should be enough to tell if he’s worth it.

  106. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    That’s the hard part. 35 year old legs don’t have much juice left in ’em. You work him too hard in TC and preseason, he may make the team but lose his juice by week 8. If I was the coach, I wouldn’t run Moss much until November. Just do enough to show you still got it, then shut it down for six more months.

  107. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    You can’t expect 35 year old legs to be great from wire to wire.

  108. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Former Broncos CB Perrish Cox has signed a 2-year deal with the 49ers.
    Isn’t this the guy who just beat a rape charge?

  109. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Man, last year the 9ers were last out of the box in FA and this year they’re jumping the gun.

  110. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Moss ain’t going deep on every play. He’ll get maybe 75% of the snaps, and see where it goes from there.
    You don’t care about the Manning circus, Soft-serve, but you’ve devoted 100,000 words to it over the past 2 months. Now you say you want him to throw for us when he isn’t throwing for anyone.
    Gotcha. On top of shit as usual, ain’tcha, skippy? He still has to make the team? I see you read my 9:06 and made it your own. Par usual. Yeah, I’m sure it’ll be tough for Moss to beat out Ginn. Hyuk!

  111. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Never liked Terry Donahue’s cry for, “Guys who go to church on Sunday morning, then play like hell in the afternoon.” Gotta have a little dirt on you….

  112. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    The more the 49ers sign, the smaller Alex Smith’s contract gets. Let’s go hog wild, boys. HOG WILD!!!

  113. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Unca / Bullit – there goes your boy Carlos Rogers. Bye, bye.

  114. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    And maybe my boy, Ted.

  115. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    LET’S GET ‘EM, NO FEAR!!!!

  116. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Cox had some good returns in college.

  117. SUPREME72No Gravatar says:

    i know they can’t sign all our FA, but i would like to see CR and JM back on the team. can’t over look the vets and what they bring if the price is right.

  118. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Donatell coached Cox in Denver. Or as Unca/Bullit spells it with a heat on, “Devner.” Whatta wet brain. Ed musta liked the kid. That’s good news.

  119. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    No Fear

    Sanctimonious as ever. Suggest you read your own posts. You are the braggard talking about your preference for cabins and the rural life in Idaho.
    You are nothing but a whining hypocrite that needs to take his own advice before dispensing it.
    Try to say something straight up that people readily understand instead of taking the chikinshit route of implication and innuendo.

  120. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    No Fear

    Nothing like having Spitoon and V
    on the same page with you.
    Brothers in arms???

  121. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    The 49ers just signed a DB who beat a rape charge? I perish the thought. If I’m Maiocco or any of the other toadyish scribes, the question I’d want answered by Harbaugh and/or Baalke is this: would you allow Perrish Cox to date your daughter? I’m sure they’d throw my ass out of 49ers HQ, but I’d demand a goddamn answer before I vacated the premises.

  122. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    It’s < 30 mins until Alex Smith hits the open waters as a FA.
    "If the phone doesn't ring, it's me."

  123. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    If the phone doesn’t ring, who loves ya, baby…

  124. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Brandon Marshall was just traded to the Bears for 2 #3 draft picks.

  125. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chicago solved their receiving problems and didn’t give up taht much. Cutler is now reunited with his favorite target.

  126. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Pierre Garcon to Washington & Vincent Jackson to Bucs.

  127. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Josh Morgan will sign with Washington.

  128. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Manning apparently didn’t like Brandon Marshall. He’s a Bear now, so looks like that clears the way for Peyton.

  129. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    . . . in Miami

  130. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Tavares Gooden re-signed with Niners for one year

  131. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    With Jason Campbell looking at the Bears and Kyle Orton the Cowboys we have 2 starting QBs last year settling to be backups if they sign.

  132. SUPREME72No Gravatar says:

    Looks like JM might sign with the skins! Oh well!

  133. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Blake Costanzo won’t be back either. That hurts the STs.

  134. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    OGM!!! Dennis, Soft-serve! You got your wish . . .
    Alex Smith signed a one year deal with the Browns!!!

  135. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    (how long will it take them to figure out it’s the TE . . . ?)
    Yeah Supreme, Morgan got a 2 year, $12 mill deal.

  136. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    And now looking at Eric Wright, the other one, at CB.

  137. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    CB Carlos Rogers about to re-sign with SF. Deal will avg about $7.3 mill per year

  138. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like we are good to go in the secondary for 2012.

  139. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m always a little skeptical of Jason Cole at yahoo, but I hope this is correct. I like Rogers.

    Costanza is going to the Bears, 2 yrs.

  140. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    What was it you said @ 11:23am today?
    PREMATURE just like evrything else important in your life.

  141. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    So far Harbaugh is “bringing the band back” on the defensive side of the football. Goldson, Rogers and Brooks, along with Brock and Grant tendered. As for special teams and offense? Not so much. No Teddy, no Blake, no Adam, no Joshua …. and be still my heart, no Alex.
    More money for Carlos, Dashon, Brooks…. Moss… means less and less for Alex. And that’s justice, really. Any quarterback in the NFL could have taken this team to the NFC Championship game. Harbaugh has brought the band back on defense and paid them because they were primarily responsible for the 49ers getting back to the NFC Championship game – them and David Akers. This is all a good thing. For the locker room to be right, there must be a sense of justice amongst the men.

  142. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. Revisionist history at its finest.
    Keep batting .000, soft-serve.

  143. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck’s brain from helicopter.

  144. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s try that again…. burp.

  145. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    For some reason my cut and paste isn’t working. Jesus is merciful.

  146. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Warriors just made one of the worst trades in BB history.

  147. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Did they acquire Alex Smith for a can of baked beans?

  148. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Christ. Do you ever shut the furk up?
    Spitty tries to come up with a reply.

  149. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Jesus is merciful. Soft serve is an idiot.
    Cut ‘n’ paste got you baffled, skippy?
    That’s not really even funny. It’s a bit sad . . .

  150. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    But they won by 26 Bergs.

  151. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    LOL Albert – Your C&P functionality may be a little stuck on the clipboard but, your Alex wit is in overdrive as usual.
    Berger, I’d love to have Soliai & Sopoaga clogging up the middle for us.

  152. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    How about Kendall Langford?
    He’s on the Mkt too I believe

  153. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I loved Langford in college. You know that. Problem for me is I haven’t watched him in the pros so I don’t know his worth. What are you saying about his worth?

  154. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Actually, I did try to catch Langford and Soliai earlier this year and got caught up in the old realization that D-linemen in a Mike Nolan system are not allowed to make plays. The old, don’t penetrate and don’t move, D-line system. Playing D-line for Mike Nolan would have to be a major bummer.

  155. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    At the right price as FAs I’d give them a look.
    Soliai was FTagged last year.
    He’s a big body and I’m always in for the Fat Man in The Middle for a 3-4

  156. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    The Warrior trade had to be made.
    It broke up the midget backcourt of Ellis/Curry and now in Bogut they have a legit Top 6 Center.
    Udoh was coming around but he was still getting puched around on Defense as he’s a tweener and not big or strong enough to defend 5’s and the more powerful 4’s.
    The team needed a shakeup or else
    wallow and drown in the belief that the W’s could play small ball forever. Bogut was the #1 pick in 2005 and can average a dounle/double. His problem is keeping healthy.Sorry to see Capt Jack return and he’ll be gone sooner than later.

  157. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Soliai amd $12 mil last year.
    Don’t think we’ll commit $8 mil to a backup. Spend the money on offense.

  158. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I wouldn’t either bullit –
    Hoping he’s a value option now that he’s gotten overpaid by Miami

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