Take the Points

In 2017, the 49ers defense ranked 22nd against the pass, 22nd against the run, but 24th in points allowed.  The offense was 12th in yards, 9th in passing yards, 21st in rushing yards, but only 20th in points.

In 2018, the 49ers defense ranked 11th against the pass and 14th against the run, but 28th in points. The offense was 16th in yards, 15th in passing yards and 13th in rushing yards, but 21st in points.

Ergo sum diarrhea, we can see that the rushing improved last year while the offense as a whole regressed. And the defense improved against the pass and the run, while regressing as a whole in points allowed.

Lifting the lid for a closer look at the statistical excrement, we know that Jimmy Garoppolo‘s 5-0 run at the end of 2017 no doubt skewed the stats favorably for the offense and it reverted to form when he was MIA in 2018. The defense improved against the pass and run, but still gave up more points than the previous year.

Somewhere along the line, we’re going to need to see the offense and defense get out of the bottom 12 teams and get upward towards the top 12. Without resting in the eight middle slots reserved for perennial 8-8 type teams. The nice, but no cigar division.

This points for and against issue has been a persistent problem for HC Kyle Shanahan and DC Robert Saleh. Even when they are better, they’re worse. The points for and against are worse than the yardage for and against. With Jim Harbaugh‘s teams, it was just the opposite: the points were always better than the yardage. And that made all the difference.


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  1. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Barring a major injury the O will easily put up the points. Shanahan fits the playcalling/play design to the talents on field.

    Had his choice of personnel and chose his type of WR with our high 2nd and 3rd. Have to believe he chose wisely. In the red zone we have Kittle, Jordan Matthews, Jalen Hurd, and Toilolo for big targets. Should amass lots of yardage between the 20’s.

    Our roster compares well versus ARI, LAR, and SEA. ARI has old 36 yr Suggs and 32 yr Brooks Reed across from Chandler Jones in their 3-4. DE Zach Allen a rookie with NT and other DE mediocre. We can score against that.

    SEA is rebuilding on both sides of the ball. LAR rebuilding their IOL and Todd Gurley with bad knee limits his snaps and even games played.

    Bottom line in playoffs and possible NFC West champion this year. We have good chance at top 10 O and D with the new DE’s and healthy Jimmy with addition of Matthews, Samuel, Hurd, Pettis, and Goodwin taking the top off the field.

    We go 5 of 6 in NFC West and finish with at least 10 wins. Limited by the secondary and IOL. Need TMoore to step up big at FS.

  2. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    An oldie but goodie


    What is going on out there. Home Depot in Oakland is complaining about homeless tent cities and crime around their store. Customer cars in parking lot getting broken into.

    Is it those magic mushrooms that are now legal in Oakland causing this. Can they be used as pain killers for the Raiders players. Must be a silver lining in there somewhere. So that’s all good.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The 2019 State of the Franchise in it’s entirety


  4. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    More on Shanahan’s O from ATL days with Tevin Coleman


  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Staley’s contract extension buys Lynch at the very least an extra year to find and groom a replacement.
    Most likely they’ll kick McGlinchey over to LT so finding a RT in the next 2 drafts will be on their shopping list.

  6. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


    Hard to have chemistry when mixing acids and bases, pH goes to neutral. Even more, at end article said PFF run grades for IOL were markedly worse than the pass grades. Ouch.

  7. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Please keep eyes and ears on Shon Coleman. IOL needs more draft help than OT.

  8. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


    Will it also help contain the K-Raid with ARI and similar with BALT, one of the AFC North teams played this season.

  9. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    From Cohn zone with best poster name evah! The IND Manning question answered in the affirmative.

    Razoreater says:
    June 7, 2019 at 8:53 am
    The more points Shanny’s offense can put up, and pressurize opposing offenses into passing more; the more opportunities to utilize the wide 9 technique, and it’s effectiveness therein will be available…

    Razoreater says:
    June 7, 2019 at 10:21 am
    After listening to Kocurek, the wide 9 is a technique they will master for use against teams like the Rams, Cardinals and Seahawks. Stops the outside runs, and puts more stress on the edges to defeat pass pro. This combined with quick route coverage from the secondary should create more opportunities to get off the field on 3rd downs. It’ll be interesting to find out the percentages they use various defensive techniques at the end of the season….

  10. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


    Need a sense of humor in these dog days.

    Jun 7, 2019 at 5:23 PM#8
    Posts: 9,586
    GMs dropping like flies. I’m betting John Lynch is bringing in some donuts to Jed tomorrow morning like “we cool?”

  11. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    NFC West offseason link gave high grades to all teams. Good fan fodder. Reality is how this fits in to the same 32 team league.


    He had an interesting take on Rosen versus Darnold and Josh Allen. Good read. I believe FS Deionte Thomson from Alabama has a degenerative knee issue that dropped him into the mid rounds.

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Solomon Thomas has not performed to his draft position. I would cut him some slack for last season because even Thomas acknowledges his focus was not on football but rather on his personal life after his sister took her own life. Solomon Thomas didn’t handle it well and who can blame him.
    Thomas himself has vowed that he will turn it around this season and he is focused on football. He is definitely on the hot seat and I am waiting to see him show why he was drafted this high.


  13. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Thomas was definitely overdrafted. He might still become a decent starter at some point but I think he’ll never be the impact guy you’d expect from a third overall. Given a do-over, I think most of us would have taken Marshon Lattimore. But sadly, I find myself without a time machine.

  14. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    The underperforming and injured gave us a good draft this year, at least on paper. The roster voids remaining DB/IOL even have existing talent that can remove some of the voids (TMoore FS, Garnett OG, Coleman OT).

    IMO, LAR and SEA have opened the door for us. Both have great coaching to squeeze more performance out of roster talent. We look better out of the blocks.

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners might lose Martin Mayhew as he’s interviewing for the vancant Houston GM vacancy.

  16. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    From Cohn zone, here is the curse:


    “The Apache Whiskey Rite”

  17. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Very good NN fanpost on distinctions between X and Z receivers. He zeroed in on the MINN 2018 game to figure out the fits.


    Good comments on article add to discussion. Shanny plays receivers at X, Y, and Z. We do not have an alpha receiver yet. The X is isolated across from the others and be able to break 1 on 1 press man coverage.

    The author thinks Deebo and Matthews more suited for X. Both weigh the same but 6’3″ versus 5’11”.



    Something happened to Matthews in year 3, maybe played with injuries. Last 2 years has been injured. If Matthews injury prone then Deebo to be an effective X needs to beat press man coverage. Other flaws to be sure but once past the press CB then play design can help to get seperation.

    Eventually will Hurd play more X, Deebo more Y, and Pettis more Z. Again Shanny will play the WR at all 3 positions. We get lucky if Matthews can stay healthy and play to his year 1 and 2 performance. Am inclined to think he is our X if his issues can be overcome.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    On a non football note

    W’s win in an extraordinary game fending off elimination.

    GM Bob Myers in an emotional press conference following the team losing Kevin Durant to a possible achilles problem


    The team was very somber after a hard earned victory but they have the heart of a champion and will fight til the end.

  19. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Death Wish XCIX:

    “Aldon Smith has been arrested in Mission, Kansas on charges of suspicion of DUI.”

  20. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Usually after the 3rd one you spend a little time inside. Sounds like he’s a total wreck.

  21. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Aldon Smith. Multi-million dollar body, rusted nickel head.

  22. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Are we in trouble this year? PBWR 29th out of 32 teams ranked on ability to hold a pass block for 2.5 seconds.


    If we start the same 5 that gave us a very poor Pass Block Win Rate, will this be our Achilles heal?

  23. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Beating press man coverage and who is better at X for us.


  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Wonder if da Bears would give up a second round pick for Gould?

    Niners have to bring in a competent replacement for this to happen.

    Bears have 3 kickers in their camp missing identical 40 yard FGs.


  25. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Minicamp is over and the Niner team will have six weeks before they get together and start training camp.

    Jimmy G is doing the smart thing spending time down South working with 3DQB, a group led by former major league pitcher Tom House.

    This is the group that Kaepernick should’ve gone to but instead he pretended that he was being mentored by Kurt Warner and two high school coaches in Phoenix and the end result is
    Kaepernick regressed rather than showed improvement.

    With Tom House it’s all about arm angles and footwork and he is the top QB mechanic in the business.


  26. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    I recall reading Madrid or Rembeck noting the different throwing motion of his short/intermediate passes with getting ball out quick versus the longer passes where he has to step into the throw.

    He is still a work in progress. He has it upstairs, unlike Kap. House’s tutelage will sink in.

  27. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Big hits delivered and absorbed by 49ers. Love the Kap flattened shot myself.


  28. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Looks to be helmut to helmut, the good ole days.

    Only regret is not seeing Kap the first to get a triple bone fracture.

  29. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Great videos and perspective on our FA’s from johnnydel. So far looked at Kwon then Dee Ford.


    Kwon shows good play recognition and fills his gaps with burst on runs and reads play action and drops back into his coverage and locates receivers well. Lacks Patrick Willis size for stacking and shedding blocks.

    Dee Ford can burst and bend around the edge and has setup and countermoves with his hands.

    Very good analysis and talks about flaws with our WILL last year and how Kwon fixes all that. Ford perfect for the wide 9.

  30. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Jordan Mathews has a johnnydel video on page 8. Says does not have quick feet off the line so difficulty with press man. But will get open, sink hips on the break, and has speed to keep seperation.

    Says also can take top off the D so if Goodwin leaves early for the Olympics.

    Johnnydel has videos on Solomon Thomas on the inside also.

  31. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Brett Kollman on Kittle and niners O. Link to his earlier breakdown of Jimmy’s throwing motion and difference between long ball and shorter stuff.


  32. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Good summary of Jordan Matthews to complement the wikipedia posted earlier.


  33. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Dog days of summer. Salary cap news, why not.


    Tartt and K Williams go in 2020. McKinnon released if injured this season. DeFo gets paid. Jimmy restructured if needed.

    Old news but status quo may change in offseason 2020. Thomas, AA, Blair, KStreet at big end and nickel DT, who stays. AA will net us a decent comp pick if he stays healthy.

    Warner’s rookie year is over. Film and Kwon will sharpen his weakness in play recognition. DL and LB, along with WR and TE and RB and QB are good enough to avoid 2020 draft.

  34. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


    Not much dead money if cut after this season. Good size for SS in the box.

  35. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    The Dee Ford deal hurt financially, 2020 2nd plus FA induced overpay.

    But look what SEA did to KC with the Frank Clark trade. Ouch

    Chiefs gave up their 1st round pick in 2019, a 2020 2nd, and swapped 3rd round picks in 2019. So that 1st used on LJ Collier.


    Ironic? Dee Ford traded from KC with 3-4 D to SF with a 4-3 D. This year KC is going to a 4-3 D. KC must think Dee is not a 4 down player in a 4-3. Seems Dee will only be in nickel/dime for us. That was my view all along. Prefer it that way.

    KC paid a big price for this in draft capital. That was a 2019 1st. Our 2nd will probably valued as a late Rd 3rd when deal made in March.

  36. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Great LB/S article on play recognition in a 4-3 D, including RPO stuff like K-Raid we will see twice from ARI and once from BALT this year. Warner has the brains to fix this weakness, how about our safeties?


  37. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

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