Seahawks 20, 49ers 3

The San Francisco 49ers’ two game flirtation as a bona fide NFL entity came to a screeching halt Thursday night as the Seattle Seahawks pounded them into oblivion, ravaged their village, stole their manhood, ran off with their wives, and posted it all on Youtube with a thunderous laugh track.

The 49ers took the opening kickoff, briskly went three and out, then watched Seattle’s Marshawn Lynch rip through them for sixty yards and a TD. Game over — but they played the rest of it anyway. For the night, the 49ers managed just 142 yards, the fewest for any NFL team in any game this season.

QB Colin Kaepernick proved once again that he’s only effective if he has ten seconds to find a receiver, with a clean pocket as wide and empty as the high-priced stadium seat section. He was sacked six times during the game and managed nothing as a result. Conversely contrarily, Seattle QB Russell Wilson was sacked five times, tossed two interceptions, but still effectively posted twenty points. That’s what franchise QBs do. Kaepernick doesn’t.

The offensive line sucks, but that’s entirely on Trent Baalke, who assembled this collection of mutts, terming the whole shebang a “retooling.” What a crock of horse manure. It’s called “I know what I’m doing because twenty years ago I was in the same room as Bill Parcells who noticed me for a couple of seconds.” Psssst! Trent, old boy. YOU SUCK!

I’d say the defense was moderately okay, except that Seattle really isn’t that good any more. Their offensive line is a joke. The Niners came into the game without any sacks for the past couple of games, barely getting any pressure all year, and yet managed five against Wilson. That’s a really bad O-line. Lynch can’t pound away like he could before, unless it’s the Niners, whom he owns. He bulled his way to 122 yards in this game, even though the strength of this defense is supposed to be against the run.

Afterward, several players and HC Jim Tomsula termed the results “unacceptable” — thus proving that Jed York‘s tweet from last year has emblazoned itself in infamy on the team and the entire known world. Football guys don’t use terms like “unacceptable.” They say, “We got our butts kicked.” Or, “We stunk it up tonight.”

Tomsula finally broke from his season long “own it, fix it, and move on” mantra and said he was miffed. Maybe this butt-licking, back-stabbing, ownership-groveling tool is going to actually yell at the players today, like a real NFL coach might do. Watch out, Jimmy T., the whole locker room might come tumbling down around you.

Unfortunately, you can’t fix bad players. Or bad coaching. Or front office bunglers. Not this year. And maybe not for a long, long time.

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123 comments on “Seahawks 20, 49ers 3
  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Does it really matter if you lose 20-3 or 34-3?

    In the 4th quarter on two drives it was 4th and 3 and 4th and 4.
    With time running out Tomsula elected to punt instead of go for it. You have little to no chance if your team punts.
    That is basically running up the white flag. There are no moral victories keeping the score relatively close but down by 17 or 31 makes little difference if you give up on trying to reduce that deficit. I do not like throwing in the towel to keep the score somewhat respectable.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kids say the darndest things.

    “San Francisco 49ers owner Jed York says after the departure of Jim Harbaugh that the franchise’s only focus is to win Super Bowls, and that York himself should be held accountable by the fans if the 49ers fall short.

    “It’s up to us to make sure we compete for and win Super Bowls,” York said. “That’s our only goal. We don’t raise division championship banners, we don’t raise NFC Championship banners. We raise Super Bowl banners. And whenever we don’t deliver that, I hope that you will hold me directly responsible and accountable for it. And we look forward to getting this thing back on track.”

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula says he feels he has the right players to win.
    He is still reluctant to make any changes to the lineup as if everything is just fine.

    Things are not getting better because the next 4 games will be very tough. 3 winnable games on the schedule are away games.

    Winning between 5-8 games puts your team in purgatory as far as the draft goes in the mid teens where sure thing players are hard to come by.

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Wonder what happened to the Seahags Shaun Alexander who was MVP and rushed for 1800 plus yds in 2005?

    He sustained a hurt foot that was diagnosed as a bone bruise then was revealed as a stress fracture. Alexander played several more games before the fracture was diagnosed. He was never the same after his injury “healed”.

    Same scenario that it was first a deep bruise and orthotics were put in his shoes.

    If you want Hyde to have a healthy productive career, it’s time to shut him down before he does further damage. Tomsula is truly clueless saying it’s nothing.

  5. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Games in which 49ers had fewer than 9 first downs from 2008-14: 0. 2015: 2”

  6. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Maiocco: “I’ve heard whispers behind the scenes that something big could happen. I don’t know what it’s going to be. I don’t know what they’re talking about. But clearly the 49ers can’t go on this way. The coaching staff looks overmatched, the players look overmatched. The 49ers were plain and simple overmatched today against a team that came in with four losses. . . . There are a lot of very upset people in the 49ers organization.”

    Who/what are they upset about? It should be themselves, but that’s not likely. Scapegoat time!

  7. winderNo Gravatar says:

    What a ‘F—ing’ mess this team is. I honestly feel sorry for a lot of the kids whose dreams have been to make the NFL. Everyone we play from now on will game plan like yesterday’s game and it’s hard to believe that things could get any worse but they will. Blow it up right now and start again.

  8. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Anybody think firing Geep Chryst and promoting Logan would qualify as “big”? Maybe to Niner HQ, but probably not anybody else in the world.

  9. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    There is no other way to fix this, Winder. It was the fate Jed assured for this team when he put Tomsula in place of Harbaugh and Baalke got rid of all the talent for more picks he could squander on bullshit players he hoped would somehow be stars and make him look like he knows something, while letting the HC take the hit if/when they don’t pan out.

    Instead of making life difficult for Harbaugh he and Jed should have been kissing his ass at every opportunity for making them look like real football guys instead of the blithering idiots they actually are.

    This is the team blithering idiots championed.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Kap defenders need to ask themselves if Kap is earning his big contract of $16 mil.
    Always with the excuses that it’s the line’s fault or he has no receivers that can get open. Last year it was the coaching and playcalling. Time to stop living in denial and face the facts.
    Kap is a flash in the pan one trick pony that the NFL has figured out. If he can’t overcome what the DCs are doing to stop him, he’s toast.
    If your QB doesn’t live up and play up to that contract it’s killing your team’s ability to sign quality free agents it desperately needs.

    Now he’s lost all confidence and won’t throw a pass into tight spots. Kap doesn’t trust his receivers to get open.

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula just said he won’t make any changes at QB or in his coaching staff.
    Only a matter of time that Tomsula is canned and they name Mangini interim coach.
    If Tomsula can’t stomach making hard choices he shouldn’t be the head coach. He’s make a good high school coach but he’s way over his head here trying to make his players happy.
    Some players were just too happy after being humiliated, too many smiles and too much laughter.

  12. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    So cut Kap, it won’t make a shred of difference. Joe is my favorite QB of all-time but he would get killed behind this O-line. He got killed by Jim Burt and again in the 1990 NFCCG game, both against the Giants. Even he couldn’t operate without a running game or pass protection, as the Niners showed in spades last night.

    Oh, Joe would have scrambled out and hit those passes Kap (mostly) intentionally missed. But it still wouldn’t have been enough. And there’s a chance he would’ve gotten creamed. Football when you’re this bad is more than the QB.

    By cutting Kap, you gain cap space. So what? You can’t build a team through high priced free agents, and giving anybody on this team big contracts now would be ludicrous. If you could use cap space to buy high draft picks, that would make sense.

    Unless you want Tebow, who can run (though not nearly as fast as Kappy) and take hits both, you’re not going anywhere with this offense the way it is. This team needs an overhauled O-line and it needs a secondary. It needs a new stud LB and it needs a new stud pass rusher. It needs a new TE.

    With some of those pieces, this could be a good team. With all of them, this would be a contender again (again, coaching aside). This will take a long time. A long time.

    A new HC is a start. But no one good is going to come here and stay here unless Baalke’s gone and Jeb gets down and his hands and knees and begs. Even that might not be enough, but there’s always some guy desperate enough for his shot that he’d work for Jeb. To get a good one, though, I’m convinced you need a new GM. The question then becomes the perennial loser’s refrain: “Are the GM and the HC any good?”

    I don’t know. Just keep on losing and getting the best draft position you can. The rest is drafting and coaching guys up – a Herculean task at this point.

  13. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You simply need a QB who can read a defense and go through progressions.

    Again yesterday Kap had a brain fart barking signals for another 2 seconds after the play clock read ZERO. Phil Simms says that penalty is always on the QB. The Kap guys have always blamed that on the coaches.
    Kap is in a fog and on occasion looks good. Again his problem is he lacks consistency. You can’t be a playoff QB if you only play well half the time.

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bethea has just been put on season ending IR with a shoulder problem.
    That’s a player they couldn’t afford to lose.

  15. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Bethea is not the future, and there is no future now, so no big loss. We’ll see what Tartt or Ward are made of.

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jerome Simpson activated to take Bethea’s roster spot.

    Jim Tomsula on Week 7 prep: “We just walked through the assignments. I mean, you’ve got to take care of the bodies.”

    Apparently they were still walking through at the game last night.

  17. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Whatever York and Baalke decide to do, we can be sure of one thing: it will be wrong and dumb.

  18. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I guess technically, that’s two things, not one. But it’s one concept of ineptitude.

  19. winderNo Gravatar says:

    They gotta find some top level people that know football. Jed isn’t going anywhere so he must just get out of the way. This is gonna take awhile.

  20. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Jim Tomsula today: “49ers are evaluating how we call things, scheme, putting players in the best positions that we can put them in.”

    Sheesh. We’re almost half-way through the season and these clowns still have no clue how to assemble a roster. Each week, it’s “Hey, let’s try this or let’s try that. Maybe something will work.”

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    That’s the way they did it in NFL Europe.
    They played a 6 game schedule.
    Tomsula is going into uncharted waters now.

    Some people feel sorry for Tomsula. He’s getting $3.5 Mil to live out his fantasy. He can retire and live very comfortably.

  22. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jed York thinks he’s still a fan favorite?
    He sure is but the subject of their ridicule.

  23. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This is a reload situation not a rebuild.
    Just a reminder of the web of lies the last time these guys appeared in public together.

    Bet you those guys that defended these clowns are feeling awfully, awfully stupid. Some have disappeared from Niner blogs.

    Your stomach will turn when Jed says he’s assembling the best coaching staff possible and you can jump down his throat if the team fails to win a Super Bowl. Appear in public and open wide Jed instead of entering the witness protection program.

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    When you listen to this Jed York talk you feel dirty.
    He’s just totally lying to you.
    He says Eddie D whiffed at hiring the right coach and then after this press conference Jed had the audacity to compare Jim Tomsula’s hiring to Steve Kerr’s. Total crock of shit.

  25. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Bethea’s 49er career sure came to a sudden, quiet end.

  26. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Go ahead, change QBs:

    The analysis from the three-time SB Winner is enlightening. So is the author of the piece’s factual support. I’ll just quote the last paragraph.

    “On the season, three players on the 49ers offensive line are among the worst in the entire league, according to Pro Football Focus. Among 78 NFL tackles, Pears is ranked 72nd with a -16.3 overall rating. Among 34 NFL centers, Martin ranks 33rd with a -21.9 overall rating. And among 81 NFL guards, Devey ranks 77nd with a -13.1 overall rating.”

  27. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I find that last especially funny, since they rank temporary fill-ins and replacements as well. Let’s try it another way:
    64 tackles – Pears ranked 72
    32 centers – Martin ranked 33
    64 guards – Devey ranked 77

  28. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It think it’s funny that if we left it up to the Kap fanboys we would be having the same damn conversation next year and every year after.
    Keep making excuses for the guy when he’s a major contributor to the offense being mediocre.
    Kap was supposed to advance in his development this year and instaed he looks like he did as a rookie.

  29. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    So three-time Super Bowl winner O-lineman and current football analyst Alex Schlereth is a Kappy fanboy? I bet that’s news to him.

    What’s a “fanboy”, anyway? By gawd, I hope it’s not like unrelenting, unrequited Alex Smith love.

    “‘Oh Colin Kaepernick, it’s time to move on, he can’t play.’ Stretch Armstrong couldn’t play behind that line of scrimmage right there. I don’t care if you’re a super hero, you’re not doing anything behind the way they played last night. They should be embarrassed … C’mon, clown. Block somebody.'”

  30. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Like I said yesterday we saw The Seahags with an even crappier line and what Russell Wilson was able to do.
    I suppose you’re starting to believe Kap that he was throwing the ball away when he hit the trainer in the face even though he had a wide open receiver.
    Open your eyes and you will see a lot of simply crap passes that Kap threw a high school QB could complete.

  31. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    How is the Seahawks line worse than the worst offensive line in the entire league for the last 30 years?

    Let’s see, should I take your analysis or the former three-time champion’s? Ooooo, that’s a toughie…

  32. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I suppose you think those three dropped passes were Kappy’s fault, too. I mean, I guess he should’ve caught them himself.

  33. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    “Wilson had 37 dropbacks. The Lions, ranked T27 in total defense, sacked, hit or placed him under duress 18 times (48.6 percent). Officially, the Lions dropped Wilson six times. A quarterback with less mobility – that’s all of them – would have gone down double that number.

    Talk about handling pressure: While under duress, Wilson went 5-for-8 for 119 yards. Flushed from the pocket, he went 6-for-9, averaging 16.1, including a 50-yard completion on 3rd-and-2 to Jermaine Kearse to ice the game. Facing a blitz, Wilson went 7-for-7. With all that heat, it’s astonishing Wilson only fumbled twice.

    ESPN analyst and former head coach Jon Gruden made the point repeatedly Monday night: The Seahawks have no ability to protect Wilson, in whom they have invested millions of dollars. As all network analysts do, Gruden tried to soften his criticism by explaining that the Seahawks feature an almost-new offensive line that “is a work in progress.” But his message was clear: Wilson is low-hanging fruit who is forced to play “playground” football, an assessment seconded by Doug Baldwin in a post-game interview.

    Gruden didn’t say so, but left the impression that Seattle’s offense isn’t so much designed as it is whatever Wilson can conjure up on any given down. OC Darrell Bevell has his charts and calls, but because of the all the swiss cheese up front, probably has no idea what’s coming more than half the time.

    Wilson’s critics argue that he isn’t a classic pocket passer, a detriment that keeps him from joining the small list of elite quarterbacks. Wilson wants to play from the pocket, but his offensive line won’t allow it, forcing him to flee more than any quarterback in the league. Wilson has been sacked 18 times in four games, including 12 times over the past two weeks.

    That means he has already been dropped six more times than Aaron Rodgers (six) and Tom Brady (six) combined. The two marquee rookies, Jameis Winston of Tampa Bay (seven) and Marcus Mariota (two) of Tennessee together have been sacked exactly half as many times as Wilson.

    Wilson (4.5 sack per game) is on pace for 72 sacks, which would make him one of three players in NFL history (also David Carr and Randall Cunningham) taken down 70 or more times in a season.”

    “Seattle’s beleaguered offensive line – RT Gary Gilliam, RG J.R. Sweezy, C Drew Nowak, LG Justin Britt and LT Russell Okung – statistically isn’t the worst in the NFL, but it’s close. On 154 passing plays, the line is responsible for nine sacks, seven QB hits, 39 hurries and 55 pressure plays allowed, according to figures provided by Pro Football Focus. Only Miami (68) and Detroit (64) are worse. The Dolphins (1-3) just fired their head coach. The Lions are 0-4, but shouldn’t be.”

    THe guy you’re worshipping isn’t Alex Schlereth but Mark “Stink” Schlereth and he writes stuff to get hits on his podcast on ITunes.

    Keep making excuses for Kap. Tell me when the last time Kap has clearly won a game for the Niners?

  34. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    According to RT Kap should be voted into the Pro Bowl for his performance against the Seahags., The loss is on everyone else but Kap. Blame everyone else but the QB.
    Kap is now 1-7 against Seattle.

  35. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Big Ben has had to suffer bad lines many years and was walking wounded. CK is healthy and still plays scared under pressure.

    Injuries happen all the time to the best of lines. Good QB’s overcome. Aaron Rodgers did great stuff while leading the league in sacks.

  36. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    A consistently bad o-line isn’t as big a problem as an inconsistently bad o-line. We know we have a bad o-line and we know where it’s bad. The left side is consistently solid, even in pass pro, and the right side is consistently bad. Play design and protections can counter that to a large degree.

    Remember Walsh designed his WCO because his line couldn’t block anybody.

    Having watched the game a couple more times in the all-22 I can tell you Kaepernick was just as bad, pressure in his face or not. Bad throws and holding the ball too long, ignoring or not seeing open receivers, opting to take the sack instead of run.

    I don’t blame Kaepernick alone, anymore than I did Alex Smith, who is one of the best QBs in the league under pressure these days, btw, but he’s the field general, he’s the guy with ball on every play. Better QB play = better offense. Would not have been enough Thursday night though.

    We are just a bad team. A bad team and poorly coached. Bad top to bottom. Bad, bad, bad.

  37. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Walsh created the WCO because his linemen were poor run blockers. The short passing game was used for ball control. Are the LB’s that much faster and quicker 30 yrs later to better defend the WCO? Probably not.

    WR slants, TE seam, bubble screens, RB’s in the flat, etc. is an open book for any QB today to implement. CK cannot. Montana, Young, Garcia could.

    With the current oline, this approach was mandatory for success. CK does not have the accuracy, timing, and quick decision making to pull this off. The coaches don’t push it because he fails at it.

    CK is a dud. Looks like he will be the guy through this year. 10 more games to prove himself. Coaches know WCO. Up to him to do it, if he can.

  38. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Business Insider nails it. Cork Gaines on CK’s contract is 61 million guaranteed against injury. In reality, a 13.1 million with 6 option years.

    If released after this year, CK got 25.9 million but lose the rest of the deal (100 million).

    This contract is not tradeable. This looks like a 2-14 season. He will be released after season’s end.

    Good bye dud. Jan 2016 cannot happen soon enough.

  39. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap lacks consistency.
    He has yet to play at a high level for 3 to 4 games in a row.
    Kap flashes brilliance on occasion and then plays a dud game.
    Because he’s the QB, if the running game isn’t there, the offense is dead in the water that week and neutralized.

    Smart DCs know that they put 7, 8 or 9 in the box and stop the running game and dare Kap to beat them with his passing. This is the smart play because lately most times Kap is not up to the challenge.

  40. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    What is truly sad and pathetic about Thursday’s game is you paid a lot of money for a stretch the field burner home run receiver in Torrey Smith.
    The Seahags put Dick on him and you target him once in the game?
    That is Petey and the Seahags imposing their will on the Niners.
    Geep had a horrible game plane that made no sense except to let Pinion practice his punting.

  41. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Paxton Lynch of Memphis line yesterday against Tulsa

    32/44 447 yds 10.2 4TDs 0Ints He had another TD rushing and his team put 66 pts up.

    What I’ve so far seen is Lynch has a strong arm and is very accurate.

  42. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Lots of speculation that York’s “big” change will be benching Kap, both to see what Gabbert can do and also to avoid Kap getting hurt before they cut him after the season.

  43. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    And Kap is a convenient scapegoat that directs blame away from where it belongs – York and Baalke.

  44. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula has already said he’s sticking with Kap.
    If true Jed/Baalke are going to cut him off at his knees and expose Jimmy T to be the puppet that he really is and show who’s really calling the shots.

  45. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Kap’s contract is non-transferable, so trading him is an iffy deal. Otherwise, some team like Houston would probably bite.

  46. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If Kap gets benched the Kap fanboys will play follow the leader off the Golden Gate Bridge.
    See Kap can do no wrong according to his pep squad. A few years ago it was he didn’t have any receivers. then it was the running game’s fault. Then it was the coaches and the playcalling. Then it was the scheme. Now it’s the Oline.

    Can’t blame Kap for his bad plays. Throwing balls straight into turf or balls sailing over the WRs heads by ten feet. The WRs need to jump higher and the RBs should dive for those passes into the ground.

    Decent QBs adapt to situations and overcome. They lift their weak team mates. The Kap fanboys expect the team to carry Kap and the big contract he is burdening the team with.

    Kap has it made. Averaging less than one TD pass a game and getting paid $1 mil a game. What a scam.

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So the new mantra in Pyongyang N.K. chapter barnyard is Kap will be better when the Oline gets fixed.
    So let’s give him and Baalke a few more years of horseshit football until this happens.

    Oh I forgot the excuse that was used for 3 years that Kap was young and learning. Still can’t read a defense, go through progressions and hangs onto the ball too long. That is someone else’s problem and Kap shouldn’t be responsible if he hasn’t evolved or progressed.

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So Baalke gets rid of Andy Lee and the punting game suffers as does field position. The argument is Niners saved a few million bucks.
    That’s great if you do something with that cap room. It means absolutely nothing when nothing is done with those savings and York pockets the money.

    They should have used that extra money to sign Mathis and the Niner’s would have shored it up at RG. Instead we hear Tomsula week after week say everything’s fine and no need to make a lineup change.

    In Pyongyang N.K. chapter barnyard it’s wait until the Oline gets fixed. A year or two maybe? Next thing you know Boldin has retired and we need a TE because Vernon is gone. The new excuse might then be Kap has no receivers because the jury is out that Torrey Smith can be relied on to get you first downs.
    Smith seems to have games where he is totally a non factor.

  49. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Am on side that wants to lose every game and playing for better draft order. From Jed/TB standpoint, with AD out after draft they needed Evan Mathis to help right side oline.

    Maybe if done one or more of NYG, CHI, CLE, and DET would be winnable. 5-11 is bad and BS’able. 2-14 allows no dancing and media/fans deliver cruise missiles on a stink that lasts until 2016 draft day.

  50. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    One solution for FO is keep existing CK contract but cut for 1/2 million a game. Draft quality pocket passer with high football IQ.

    This could salvage any CK trade value. Personally would let Gabbert finish the season. Need to develop to be a better backup. If he is adequate and can gameplan around RG/RT issue then high draft pick is WR1.

  51. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Some poster thinks it’s a bonus that Pinion kicks off.
    In 3 games this Pinion has had to kickoff only twice per game.

    Still not exactly sure why Baalke used a 5th round pick on Pinion who is ordinary at best. Very good free agent punters are cheap and you can use the draft pick for a higher quality Olineman.

  52. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    From Barrows:

    “The 49ers should have known this type of season was coming. They lost key players to retirement, allowed others to depart in free agency and didn’t retain their most talented coaches. The national media, the local media, the wannabe media, your dermatologist, the guy who replaced your air conditioning unit all predicted choppy seas.

    Everyone except the 49ers.”

    And the guys on Chuck’s blog.

  53. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, if draft used for QB of future and next year starts with Gabbert or a 50% cheaper CK then large FA money can be spent for a 25-28 yr old star elsewhere.

    Quality and healthy olinemen hard to find. NYG got Geoff Schwartz and KC’s LT I believe went to Miami. We can hope something like that occurs. Maybe Marcus Martin and Brandon Thomas become what TB drafted them for by the end of the year. AD may be back also.

  54. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, if draft used for QB of future and next year starts with Gabbert or a 50% cheaper CK then large FA money can be spent for a 25-28 yr old star elsewhere.

    Quality and healthy olinemen hard to find. NYG got Geoff Schwartz and KC’s LT I believe went to Miami. We can hope something like that occurs. Maybe Marcus Martin and Brandon Thomas become what TB drafted them for by the end of the year.

    AD may be back also. If healthy and body fat gone he may be good in ZBS.

  55. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    The CHI Bears article I posted earlier showed “Cutlets” had his only all-pro as Kyle Long. Failed on 1st Rd picks on Carmi and Williams.

    CK has had Staley from day one. Iupati and AD until this year, tho both played injured or out last year.

    See if Cutler carves us up later.

  56. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    AD might be back or he might not. He might even want a raise.
    You never know with a wild card like him.
    I do know that they most likely will have to find a replacement for Boone. His current contract that was a renegotiation does not allow the Niners to franchise him and he will go to whomever offers him the most.
    Now is the time to play Brandon Thomas and see what you have
    against NFL competition.

  57. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Agreed. Brandon Thomas, Marcus Martin, Quinton Patton, Tartt, Eli Harold, and the young CB’s.

    FO decision for Gabbert.

  58. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Stink Schlereth saying this is the worst Oline of the last 30 years is just engaging in hyperbolic BS.

    Staley and Boone do give this line some credibility. IIRC the Niners used to have Olines that got called for false starts and
    holding frequently and often on scoring plays that had to be brought back.
    Before Harbaugh the radio announcers would make it a habit to look for laundry before calling it a TD.
    Really bad lines not only allow sacks, they fail to open holes for the running game and get called for a ton of penalties.

  59. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap needs to go somewhere else to reinvent himself.
    It would be a mistake for him to stay and I doubt seriously that he would give the team a discount.
    If things don’t work out this season , it is time to turn the page on the Kaepernick era and wish him luck.
    Kap needs to worry about his future and so do the Niners and they are not intertwined.

  60. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Some folks seem to think an o-lineman’s job is to block all comers for an indefinite period of time. Not gonna happen. There are receivers at all levels of depth from the one-step drop-and-throw, flat and slant routes, to the guys on the 7, 8 and 9 routes deep. The o-lineman’s job is as much a part of the play design as the QB or receiver. If the ball is out in less than three seconds that’s what the protection is designed for.

    Thursday, we left a DE uncovered on a read option. It looked to me like Kaepernick picked the wrong option but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt as he’s the expert, but the unblocked guy came in and sacked him on a keeper. WTF!? Is that on the o-line? Hardly! Another play Kaepernick had all day to throw. Nobody open? Or nobody WIDE open? Is that on the o-line? No again. The o-line sucks but if you know that you put extra help in the protection and the QB knows where the pressure is likely coming from and how quickly if he can read the DBs and LBs. Other QBs burn those guys, we don’t. Ever.

    On the detractors, yeah, they all say they knew it from the jump. Just like they always do. Seems to me most of us bitching here were in the pretty slim minority for quite a while.

  61. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This is what the Niner D is missing and you don’t often see this happen to an Olineman

  62. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Is that illegal now, a horse collar tackle? Especially on a QB.

  63. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Yes it is. I noticed that too.
    Notice the 3 man rush and the Aints choosing to double team Aldon and RayMac leaving Justin to walk the blocker back into Brees.

    Somehow I think if Harbaugh and Fangio were coaching this team both Willis and Justin would still be playing too.
    Both those guys wanted a ring just like Gore.

  64. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Gore is on schedule for 1074 yds this season. They aren’t overusing him with 4.5 yds per carry. Barring injury, should pass Jim Brown for #8 in career yards early next year.

    No more running into 8 in a box. Much better to exit and now a Colt.

  65. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Remember Tomsula says it’s just a bruise and can’t develop into anything worse. Jimmy T trying to save his job???
    Remember Shaun Alexander?

  66. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Horse collar rule doesn’t work for QB in the pocket. (IIRC)

  67. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hard for me to believe Tomsula’s making up medical excuses and going against what the trainers/medical staff tell him.

  68. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    CK bails early and exits pocket. How many times has he released a pass as he gets hit. Maybe that’s the secret to his health.

    Maybe Joe Montana was right about him.

  69. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Not too many penalties for roughing the passer with Kap.

  70. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Remember with the Pyongyang N.K. chapter Barnyard crowd wanted to oust Harbaugh and Roman because the offense with it’s success was too “stone age” and Bo Schembechler for these clowns.
    The clown posse wanted a more vertical passing game because it was sexy and good for their fantasy teams.

    Be careful what you wish for because this year’s offense can’t be relied on to pass or run.
    In Pyongyang the reasoning is once the Oline is fixed all will be well.
    Just ignore the shambles the team is in and the dumpster fire.

    Ignore the regression of Kap playing like rookie. Remember Kap is a very accurate passer. The receivers aren’t running fast enough or slow down to make his passes look inaccurate. Yeah that’s the ticket.

  71. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    You guys are hilarious. You’re all for expert analysis except when people with whom you disagree state theirs.
    HOFer Neon Deion – (Animatedly) “Nobody is getting open… (more on the same nobody to throw to theme)”
    15 year OL vet with 3 Rings – “Worst O-line I’ve seen in 30 years… Superheroes couldn’t win behind this line.”

    And you think I’m going to listen to you. That’s the funniest part.

  72. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    How’s that SB winning QB in Seattle doing behind a bad but better than the Niners line? Oh yeah, that’s right, he’s 3-4 with a big push from the refs in Seattle, or else he’d be 2-5 as well. And he has the Seattle D and Marshawn Lynch.

  73. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Not sure if anyone shared this from Steve Young RT, but….
    Worth a few minutes to digest the opinion being offered.

    Berger and I are having our differences about where we are with Kaep, in terms of ‘seeing the Defense’ vs poor OLine influences, preventing him from being more successful.
    Yes, OLine is in shambles, no question.
    But, as Steve suggests, quick-hitters take some pressure off the OLine and the QB if executed in rhythm.

    I see Kaep as a guy that panics far too often.

  74. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Steve Young spends his days telling everyone who will listen how much he knows about, well, everything.

    He *assumes* Greg Roman didn’t coach Kaepernick? What an eff’n idiot. Who does he think Kaepernick won with? Who does he think Kaepernick looked like a real QB with? If it was Chryst wouldn’t that be showing up now?

  75. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh NoFear49er, Steve is a bit tough to follow at times.
    What rang true for me was his analogy between Hardware/Software.
    It’s been painful of late to see Kaep holding the ball, as if unsure what to do on any given play.

    Sure, the OLine isn’t helping but, there seems to be more than a few check-down options which often go neglected in his progression IMO.

    Nice bean-ball the other night on the sideline too.
    Poor guy probably had a nice headache to make matters worse 😀

  76. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    At this point, the season is basically about roster evaluation for me now.
    Can’t climb out of this sh!thole.
    I can’t figure out if the ZBS is worth chasing any longer either.
    Flaming mess.

  77. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Still trying to understand what exactly Kaep worked on in AZ with Warner & Co too.
    Sure, he’s running less but, footwork and balance are atrocious.

  78. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I did the research on the guys that were tutoring Kap.
    Dennis Gile offered his services for free trying to make a name for himself and he basically ran a QB camp with his partner for high school QBs. His previous claim to fame was working with Tim Tebow and Christian Ponder which are 2 guys out of the NFL.

    Warner supposedly met with Kap once a week to discuss QBing.
    He’s backing off Kap too recently saying old habits are hard to break.

    If Kap was really serious about reinventing himself he would’ve gone to see Tom House for corrections. Horrible footwork and elongated delivery and release will prevent Kap from going to the top tier of QBs in the NFL.

  79. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    IMO Berger is the kid that would stop the game and take the ball home when things weren’t going his way. You remember that kid.

    Berger hated the 49er style of offense under Harbaugh/Roman.
    He started labelling it and got a few other guys to jump on his bandwagon who wanted a sexy spread ala Chip Kelly.

    The whole concept of a ball control offense is to possess the ball and keep it away from your opponent’s offense. If they don’t have the ball they can’t score. It’s about field position
    and allows your defense to rest. It was a successful formula that worked and brought the Niners to the playoffs and to NFCCGs and the Super Bowl and they were considered one of the five best teams in the league and contenders.

    The 2014 season was an anomaly for the Niners. Injuries and off field incidents with suspensions made the team 8-8 along with behind the scenes betrayal punctuated with false rumors and innuendo.
    The rest is history as Jed’s ‘philosophical differences” was his ego talking and he has obviously failed miserably to replace the coaching staff with exodus of many key players being almost a death blow to the team’s chances to be respectable..

  80. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit it’s all fair game in my book.
    We each have our opinions, some more popular than others.
    I’m not one to say anyone else’s opinion is better or worse than my own.
    We all see things differently.
    He’s right about the OLine contributing to Kaep’s problems but, as I’ve attempted to articulate, Kaep isn’t helping them out often enough by holding the ball or, not utilizing his outlet options.

    I’m seeing less and less confidence from Kaep of late too.
    If they’re preventing him from running, in an attempt to keep him focused down the field, he’s not looking too comfortable.

    Question for me is this.
    Can he grasp the Pocket expectations and, how long can we wait to find out at this point in his development?

  81. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    What’s wrong with the picture where Kap doesn’t adjust himself to help the team?
    The expectation you hear as the solution is to tailor the offense to Kap’s strengths. The problem now is nobody is certain what Kap’s strengths are passing the ball.
    Just like teams run the wildcat as a change of pace. You cannot make it your base offense and succeed in the NFL.

    What I have seen lately is you run 3 or 4 plays of read option and if it doesn’t work you move onto other schemes and never go back to it because when it doesn’t work you are behind the chains looking at 2nd and 14.

    Building a new Oline is easier said than done. Next season you’ll have Staley and Kilgore and unknowns. Maybe AD comes back but in what shape and what’s his mindset? Are Marcus Martin and Brandon Thomas going to live up to Baalke’s expectations?
    In the meantime Boldin and Vernon are on their last legs and have to be replaced. This is like herding cats.

  82. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I know Bullit.
    Total clusterfuk of events thus far.
    We were successful with Harbaugh/Roman when they utilized Kaep’s legs.
    Given the need to progress to the Pocket stage of his development may have been the beginning of the end?
    Teams caught up, Kaep didn’t progress and, we are where we are now.
    Back to the beginning of QB development with a rag-tag Staff and a roster well depleted of previous talent.

    Baalke may now find that guys like Marcus and Thomas aren’t viable options under the Foerster scheme as well.
    We can only hope that someone develops from the group of WRs/TEs he’s now attempting to groom as well.
    I’m simply not sure what the plan is with Kaep.
    Are they protecting him from injury, ala RG III?
    He’s taken some serious shots, most noteworthy, the collision in game 1 vs MN, by Harrison Smith.

    Sooner or later, someone will do damage.
    He’s got to adjust his mindset to throwing with better accuracy and command.

  83. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jay Glazer on the NFL pregame show says Kap is on an island in the locker room.
    His fellow team mates won’t go out of their way to lift him up.

    Some can remain in denial but he is the focal point of what is wrong with the team.

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Sad to hear but, not surprising, as he touches the ball on every Offensive play.
    It goes through the QB in this game.

  85. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Big difference between blame and accountability.
    In every big game like the Super Bowl and the NFCCG Kap threw some big passes to win the game. If you painfully watch all those passes they were inaccurate and of 5 passes only on one was the receiver able to get a hand on the ball and that was 2 yards short of the end zone.
    If you throw a pass that the receiver can’t get a hand on, that receiver is not going to make the catch and it is a fail.

    In the end it is really onh the QB to put the ball in a position to be caught and then it’s on the receiver to do his job and snag the pass.

  86. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Just reading a piece related to the Miami HC search.
    La Canfora suggests Parcells is recommending OC Todd Haley from Pittsburgh.
    Seems as though The Tuna is continuing to influence the placement processes around the League.

  87. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As I’ve said on many occasions Bullit, had he thrown a catchable fade in the SB, Harbaugh gets his raise, we add a 6th Lombardi to the trophy case and, history as we now know it, is not a topic of despair.

    I’m just perplexed at how this entire development phase, is continuing to be an issue, regarding the recognition/touch topic this far in.

    Something just isn’t right…

  88. winderNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- the whole team is in disarray, it’s way more than just Kappy. But since he is our field general it’s easy to put the blame on him. A lot of which is rightly deserved. All this Harbaugh crap is dead, Jed F–ked up and Baalke has proven to be incompetent. Pretty obvious stuff. I don’t really know a simple way out of this mess but I would start right now by firing Baalke, get rid of high priced dead weight and try to find some hard-nosed dedicated kids and just play some balls-out football. We are going nowhere with the gameplan we have now. It’s time for some solutions.

  89. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Most of the team that played in the Super Bowl is gone. the coaches for the most part are gone.

    It’s Kap, Bowman, Brooks, Staley, Boone, Baalke and Vernon.

    I have been tired of waiting for Kap to reach his potential two years ago.
    Time to try something else.

  90. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Colts look awful.

  91. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Bitter clingers. What is it about CK that keeps his defenders empowered.

    A lot of coaching effort has been spent to rehab him. Varying schemes to prop up his limited skillset. Dumbed down playbook to offset his limited IQ.

    I think it starts at the top. Easier for football people to recognize in sum his marginal abilities. Discard and develop another that shows coachability and improvement game by game.

    At some point Jed cracks and allows CK to leave.

  92. winderNo Gravatar says:

    bulitt- I am tired of waiting on Kap too. I just haven’t totally given up on him yet. I still think he’s got more talent than most on the team.

  93. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Derek Carr doing OK with a perennial crap Raider oline. His football IQ is helped by his brother. I suspect the Carr and Russell Wilson situations refute the bitter clingers blaming the oline for CK’s regression.

  94. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    HOFER Deion Sanders said no one is getting open. OC simplified the pass routes so CK would have an easier time remembering where his receivers should be.

    Was it the Cardinals safety Mathieu that laughed afterwards saying they knew where receivers were going and jumped the routes.

    Dumbed down playbook is not working. Seems Derek Carr in his second year has passed QB 101.

  95. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    PFF 5 worst olines by pressured dropbacks: Rams are worst, Niners are not in worst 5. Rams destroyed the Browns today. Any comments by the bitter clingers?

  96. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Whether you like Kap or not, he’s on his way out here. He’s not going to improve this year and York & Baalke are now in full “find a scapegoat” mode. Kap’s at the top of the list and the most visible blame for what is essentially the fault of Baalke & York.

  97. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Gore’s probably wondering how he managed to stumble into the same shit he went through last year. GM screws up a roster, then leaks that the HC is going to get fired at the end of the year, team starts playing erratic and unfocused.

  98. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Steve Young spends his days telling everyone who will listen how much he knows about, well, everything.”

    Yep sure does NF. I tuned him out during the original Ray Mac debacle. Loved him as a player, not so much now.

    Kap does not deserve to continue as Niner starter with his erratic play. Team will have to figure that out.

  99. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Leadership- the good teams have it in spades; bad ones don’t. Same as any business/organization.

    What did Jimi bring? Leadership. Plus good eye for football talent, players, coaches especially. Plus an entertaining style. Plus wins.

    So of course small minds needed him out. Brilliant, now look at us. No surprise, called it almost 2 years ago.

  100. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The report is on Thursday Jed skipped his usual post game visit to the locker room and headed straight for the parking lot.

  101. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    …and drank a quart of vodka. Nooobody likes him. Kap is isolated? Coaches are bewildered? Players KNOW this happened due to vodka boy…so yeah.

    BTW I want to say a small thing = My name Phil Fan was suggested by Berger. Yep Berger the absent. So we can question some of his opinions but dammit that man came up with a good one. Thanks Bergs! When I go on other sites, a few, I use Phil Fan and my Hendrix avatar is right there confusing everybody. These are not sports blogs but phil fan, Jimi, thanks to Bergs make a small talking point.

    Ok back to solving the worlds problems, lol.


  102. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Anyone see the ladies holding the inflatable penis with ‘YORK’ written on it at the game?
    One of the young ladies was caught flipping off Jed in the pic as well.

  103. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    About time he made a public appearance.

    Al Michaels’ speech impediment is driving me nuts.

    What’s a sshhhlant play?

    Who’s Douche Shtaley?

  104. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    LMAO NoFear49er.
    Guessing Michaels needs a bridge adjustment?

    I have the same reaction to MNF trying to listen to Gruden and Tirico.

    I’d rather shove shards of glass in my ears than to listen to those 2 nimrods calling a game.
    Beaker and Bunsen do Football.

  105. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Mike Iupati 10th rated guard. Boone and Devey not in top 32.

  106. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I do not believe in false hope.
    There are quite a few posters who are hoping and counting on Anthony Davis to return and be the player he was two years ago.
    First question I have is if he gets dinged again which is likely will he quit again? Davis was on social media and indicated he was 50 lbs different from his playing weight now. Over or under is a problem if you want to be an Olineman.

    Too many unknowns and questions with this guy. If someone would give the Niners a 3rd round pick for him I’d take it and use his salary $6.6 mil to sign a quality UFA Olineman next year.

    I just don’t trust him to stick with it simply because he shafted the team and his team mates.
    It’s like working in the private sector where someone calls in sick to take a “mental health day”.

  107. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    BASG says souring due to : Google aldon smith nessa

  108. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Detroit dumps its offensive coaching staff, before it’s too late? Are you listening Jed?

    Dallas’ idiots in chief say Greg Hardy is just a passionate player. More like Warren Zevon’s _Excitable Boy_ if you ask me.

  109. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Either Caldwell’s trying to save his job or he’s knuckling under to pressure. Either way, he’s probably toast.

  110. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Travis Swanson C is 2014 3rd Rd. Laken Tomlinson 2015 1st Rd. So young players replacing long time vets. Also ZBS with the just fired OC. RG Larry Warford also coming off injury. RT Waddle may be injured also.

  111. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The woes of this year’s Niner team are not entirely on Kap.
    However the difference between now and the previous years is Kap has to live up to what he’s being paid with his new megadeal.
    Being paid $15 mil a year comes with expectations and certain milestones that have to be hit.

    At the current salary Kap is expected to lift the team and overcome shortcomings such as a lousy offensive line.
    Right now there is not one aspect of his game that has improved
    that is helping the team win games.

    Same old faults, holding the ball too long, unable to read defenses, no touch and accuracy a big issue. Shows very little ability to be a leader which is much needed.

    His contract dictates that he must play better so the heat is on. Kap does not seem to be responding to the added pressure
    and most think he has regressed.

  112. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Next season the Niners will be a projected $41 mil under the cap.

    With that in mind here’s a list of unrestricted free agents

  113. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    With Bethea out for the year Tarrt must step up and learn the position of SS on the fly. He needs to take good tacking angles in pursuit of the ball or it can be a long season.

  114. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Looks as though Bill O’Brien in Houston wanted to jettison Ryan Mallet after he missed the teams’ Charter to Miami.
    GM Rick Smith blocked the move.
    Nothing like having a guy on the roster, in the locker room, that the HC doesn’t want huh?

    If there is discord brewing in that relationship, I wouldn’t mind having O’Brien as a HC in SF.

  115. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit your guy Paxton Lynch is now the top QB rated on the CBSSports Draft Prospects list.
    Haven’t had a chance to catch a Memphis game but, it’s looking as though he’s not gonna fly under the radar come Draft time.

    Hard to predict how we might go after this Draft, in terms of position priority right now either.
    If we’re shopping for a QB, we’d need to land in the Top 5.
    Assuming the ranked QBs are worthy of course.
    Even Luck is having his issues of late so, you can’t always assume things will pan out, especially with a QB.

    If not, a stud OT probably makes the most sense.
    I read that Laremy Tunsil is back on the field at Ole Miss.
    Have to see if I can get a look at him. Most reports suggest he’s legit.

    Both Tunsil and Stanley from ND look to be legit Top 10 right now as well.

  116. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d love to have DT Nkemdiche as an option too.
    Can’t figure to have Dorsey for too much longer.
    The DE Group seems to be rated as RD1-2 area after Bosa.
    Probably can afford to wait on that position.

    Grabbing OLB Myles Jack or Jaylon Smith would make sense as well.
    Assuming Jack rehabs well enough of course.

    Leonard Floyd from UGA isn’t bad either.

    I still buy into the philosophy of building the trenches first and foremost.

  117. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    As bakkentom alluded to this here is the link, where there’s smoke there’s fire

  118. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    No tighter bond among men than a football team. What Kap did with Aldon and Nessa crossed the line and jeopardizes team chemistry.

    He is supposed to be the leader on the team. Jed is doing the leaking. If so, does Kap get released? See what Gabbert has got for remainder of season. A nine game tryout.

  119. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Jed will trade or release CK shortly. He saves face by blaming nessa rift and team chemistry issues.

  120. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17