Roster Review

The 49ers defense ranked 24th last year. 22nd against the pass and 22nd against the run.

The offense was 12th in yards and 20th in points. 9th in passing yards, 21st in rushing yards.

It’s tough to draw too many conclusions about the offense since there were two of them last year. The one quarterbacked by Brian Hoyer/C.J. Beathard and the last six games QBed by Jimmy Garoppolo.

Still, it looks like the team moved the ball fairly well between the 20s and not so well into the end zone. Without a career year from kicker Robbie Gould, the point total would have been among the worst in the league.

The 49ers spent the offseason mostly addressing the offense. They picked up a new center in free agency, a new right tackle in the draft, and added two speedsters — RB Jerick McKinnon in FA and WR Dante Pettis in the draft. McKinnon is more dangerous than Carlos Hyde in the passing game, but it’s hard to see him improving that 21st ranked rushing attack.

The only help the defense has gotten so far is LB Fred Warner and DB Tarvarius Moore, both third round draft picks, and the aging and injured CB Dickhead Sherman via FA. Warner will only play if Reuben Foster can’t and if Moore is playing it will be because our curent DBs are sucking.

The Niners are obviously hoping that DE Arik Armstead will stay healthy in his fourth year and show why he was a number one pick in the 2015 draft. He hasn’t done anything in his first three years, so we’ll see.

The edge pass rushers, which were mediocre to awful last year, remain the same this year. The team did not bring in anybody in FA or the draft to improve this lot.

IOW, DC Robert Saleh will have pretty much the same 22nd ranked crew as he did last year. It was difficult to tell whether last year he achieved more with less, or less with more, or just achieved what any modestly skilled DC would have achieved. We’ll get a better idea of his worth during this coming season.

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  1. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    We got Jeremiah Attaochu as another Seattle-system-familiar fit too Skeebs.
    Clear indication that Saleh has player Coaches in both Dick and Jeremiah.
    I’m hoping to see what Pita T has learned as well.
    Lot’s of youth waiting to cut their teeth:-D
    Hoping for some energy if nothing else.

  2. robNo Gravatar says:

    From the last post .

    “Hey Now! I’m pretty sure Rob thinks we’re going 16-0 and winning the Super Bowl!’

    Oh wait. “in their right mind”.

    Nice one LOL

  3. robNo Gravatar says:


    D-line Buckner Armstead Mitchell Thomas
    LB’s Malcolm smith Rueben Foster
    DB’s Sherman Ward Witherspoon Tartt

    Darn good line up IMO

  4. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs – Ok, ignore the fact that our defense was full of rookies, 2nd year players, plus a boatload of FA’s learning a brand new system and that we were hit hard by injuries throughout the year. Coming into this year our defense should be vastly improved in every catagory. I don’t know where you get that Saleh is a mediocre DC when what I have read and heard so far seems that he is well respected throughout the league. I do agree about Armstead though it’s put up or shut up time for him.

  5. Uncle ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    If anything, the team is faster at a lot of positions. Please, Skeebs. You act like the team at game 1 was the same as the team at game 16. Or the Mona Lisa is a dreary painting of a mildly amused old crony. Or the Eiffel Tower is an erector-set looking pile og hokum.

    Here’s a football question, Skeebs. Do you think that if a team gets better on offense that the effect of scoring more points helps the defense? Hmmm. There’s a stumper.

    IOW, if the offense gets in the end zone more, and holds on to the ball a little longer, does the defense benefit from that?

    Well, let’s check the numbers, shall we, Skaabs?

    First 11 games: O – 13 points /game; D – 24 points per game. 1 win, 10 losses (3 playoff teams faced – Carol, LA, Philly- all losses)

    Last 5 games: O- 29 points per game; D – 19 points per game. 5 wins 0 losses (3 playoff teams faced – LA, Jax, Tenn – all wins)

    Point being, after the mysterious change that occurred at week 13, the Niner defense improved to 9th from 26th, while the offense went from last to 2nd.

    Hmmmm, what happened at week 13?, Skeebs? There’s another stumper for you.

  6. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Reading comprehension seems to be an issue today.

  7. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    That’s a given with Chuck, so no big deal. But I don’t see where I called Saleh “mediocre” or that I blamed him for anything.

  8. robNo Gravatar says:

    If we were down to 19 PPG on defense down the stretch that’s great news. We’ll have Malcolm Smith back as well as adding Sherman and Warner ! Being able to move Ward in to FS is also going huge IMO

  9. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Adrian Colbert is the FS, Rob. Ward currently has no position and all positions.

  10. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    We played Chicago, Houston, and the second team Rams down the stretch. That might make any defense seem improved.

  11. Uncle ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Show me where you differentiate the team pre-Jimmy G and post-Jimmy G, Skuubs? Did that make a difference to the team overall? A brief mention but you don’t equate it to anything you posted. Duh.

    “Modestly skilled DC?” Yea, there’s a ringing endorsement. Much like you are a modestly skilled blog writer. What is supposed to happen, Skoobs? They’ve turned over the roster at just about every position in 2 years. they cleared out a lot of dead wood, bad contracts, and marginal players. What are you expecting? They should have won the Super Bowl in year 2?

    Again, where do you address the fact that the offense struggled mightily early? And that the offense had a trickle-down effect on the defense? You don’t. You just want to be Debbie Downer. Every day. All the time. Hey, who knows? Maybe Garoppolo will get hurt and you can be happy posting your doom-and-gloom for yet another year.

  12. Uncle ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    There you go, Skaabs. That’s more like it. Like I said, what did you expect last year? A Super Bowl berth? By the way you post this doom and gloom all the time, you’d think this was 2013. What happens this season? 0-16?

    Have we made ANY improvements this year? Can you say something positive? One thing? Come on, you can do it. Hey, we have all- white unis for our alt-jersey TNF game. Going away from the black jerseys ought to cheer you up.

  13. Uncle ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    BTW Garoppolo started 5 games for the Niners, not 6.

  14. robNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs , signing Sherman will let Ward move in to FS / slot and will be a big plus this season for us ! Another plus is Colbert should be even better with a year under his belt !

  15. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Anyone who can read a sentence and comprehend its structure, which leaves you out Chuck, can see that “modestly skilled DC” is one of three possibilities mentioned, none of which are endorsed.

    Also, if you can’t spell people’s names correctly on this blog, and not like some five year old moron, then take a hike.

  16. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You haven’t kept up with the local news, Rob.

  17. NoFearNo Gravatar says:

    Blind and mindless cheerleading is the easiest method to pretend to lay claim to moral superiority. Any idiot knows that. Well, I guess not ‘any’ idiot.

    The excuses and spin will follow any results which fall short.

    The same stupid scenario takes shape EVERY season from some. These same guys supported Singletary, Tomsula, Kelly and Jack D. Shit just the same.

    Chuck makes every blog he infects a miserable place.

  18. Uncle ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well played, Skeebs. What a weasel. Stay safe in your bubble.

  19. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs – My mistake on the mediocre. I usually get the reading comprehension part. To be honest that was what sparked my post in the first place. So it was a misunderstood post on my part.

  20. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    No problem, Winder.

  21. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    After TC/preseason could we see LG Cooper and RG Garnett.

    From what I read Tomlinson has been in power gap and inside zone schemes so far. It was what he was drafted for by DET. Will see this summer if he can do OZ. He may not have the body for it.

    Did we stumble by not picking up Josh Sitton, OZ adept at 325 lbs. It seems the only demonstated OZ OG is Cooper. He did LG for DAL last season. He is coming back from MCL surgery late in the season.

    We did not draft OG for a reason. Hopefully all three are the reason. KS must have good vibes about the offseason for all three.

  22. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    A healthy and 5th year optioned Armstead makes good trade value?

    To paraphrase Sarah Palin, “you betcha”.

  23. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    RIP Dwight Clark.

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It saddens me that Dwight Clark has passed
    RIP 87

  25. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    RIP Dwight, You will be missed. A bright star indeed.

  26. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    DC will always be remembered for the one play that turned everything around for the 49er franchise. Mike Silver remembers DC as a class act.

  27. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As does Tom Brady –
    RIP DC 🙁

  28. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Today is election day, the California primary. Do your civic duty and VOTE.
    It has been 50 years to the day that RFK was gunned down after winning the California primary.

    Will never forget the funeral train and the thousands that came to the side of the tracks as the funeral train passed by.

  29. robNo Gravatar says:

    Back when Dwight played QB’s weren’t coddled , money wasn’t king and it wasn’t a pass first league ! In spite of that Clark still scored a TD every other game and was good for setting up another every game ! Which WR today can say that ?

    What a loss to the whole niner family . RIP

  30. robNo Gravatar says:

    Winder , i just read that he’ll be the only healthy SS the team has behind Tartt for the time being. The other three are injured.

  31. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Wilcox has changed his mind and is going to sign with the Jets.

  32. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Jimmie Ward was held out of practice today with a “tweaked ankle.”

    Mr. Glass

  33. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    People don’t really remember how good Dwight Clark was. They remember the catch, but not much else. Take a look at his stats for the strike-shortened season in 1982. He had 60 catches that year – which would prorate to over 100 in 16 games (rather than 9). That was unheard of in that era. He had 913 yards – almost a thousand – in just 9 games. A 1600-yard pace. That was the cocaine hangover year, of course, and way too many 49ers had miserable seasons, whether from injuries or “off the field issues”. Dwight – and probably Joe – were the only guys on that offense still playing at a really high level, and Joe leaned on him like never before or after.

    After ’82, the team got Roger Craig and Wendell Tyler, and Russ Francis and Solomon got healthy. Clark was still a major contributor through the ’86 season but never had to carry the offense like that again. But that year showed just how good he was. He was the best WR in football that year, and it was not really close.

  34. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    Montana really showed the kind of touch he had when throwing to Clark. Clark didn’t have the speed but he had the moves and everything had to be just perfect. Some of the prettiest over the shoulder catches I have ever seen.

  35. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    I guess Wilcox didn’t think SF was a destination at all. Go figure.

  36. NoFearNo Gravatar says:

    You said it, Grumpy. I remember Dwight Clark as the guy, who with Montana and friends, shredded defenses for years in a seemingly endless number of route options in those ‘good ol’ days’ when football was the greatest sport and the red and gold transcended all the bullshit.

  37. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Reuben Foster pleads no contest to remaining misdemeanor assault rifle possession count. Will have to serve 232 hours of community service in lieu of 30-day work sentence. Two years probation. NFL still is mulling a multi-game suspension for him.”

  38. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Herr Goodell just has to look like he’s doing something to protect the shield.
    Mr Large and, in charge.
    Shocker if he doesn’t do anything, considering Foster came into the League with red flags.

  39. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Owners know perception of the league is in trouble.

    Need to reignite Rams-49ers rivalry. Unfilled stadiums hurt.

    Gut feel is Reuben gets off real light. Lots of prime time games for us. Brock Coyle and Malcolm Smith ain’t gonna cut it.

  40. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    If nothing else, FOX announcers can do a segment on our criminal history through the years.

    Chris Culliver and brass knuckles. Ray MacDonald and his finger lickin good episode.

    Can’t wait for the Tampa Bay game. At least Big Ben was all over the news. Media blackout on Jameis Winston drugging of a stranger at a bar.

  41. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Boys will be boys. Just a phase. We need Reuben now. What can Jed by a man who has everything (30 mil a year).

  42. Uncle ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Frankly, Goodell has too much power. He has no right to suspend players that have been cleared of crimes. Their ‘investigations’ are a sham, as has already been proven multiple times.

  43. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    So 8% of the NFL audience disappeared last year along with 500 million or more of lost revenue.

    Yearly salary cap is determined by previous years revenue. Wouldn’t it be a hoot if football stadiums continue to lose fans and all that bloated paraphernalia industry collapsed so the social justice warriors can make a point.

    Love it. Consumer money is better spent elsewhere. Let the NFL go the way of the music and movie industry, online. Expensive movie theaters and nfl stadiums deserve their fate.

    Want to get back at the rich, this is a great way to do it.

    Pissing line on Jed York starts here.

  44. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Dwight Clark got seperation by size. Something KS does not believe in.

    Seems KS relates to scrawny bodies, somehow.

  45. robNo Gravatar says:

    Goodell is a twit

  46. Uncle ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hmmmm, I still hear music out there. And movies are still getting made, Tom. If you hate the NFL so much, Tom, why bother? That article? Might as well be Mein Kampf. Cute.

    Skeebs, you have gathered a nest of NFL haters who are too cool to watch. Blather endlessly on blogs about it? Sure. But watch? Please. That’s for the unwashed masses.

  47. NoFearNo Gravatar says:

    Reuben Foster got a judge, a fairly recent GOV Moonbeam appointee re-elected by running unopposed, who decides that the recanting testimony of a girl, who by definition cannot be believed, trumps any and all evidence and statements collected at the scene by the police. No evidence! Case dismissed!

    The same judge reduces the weapons charge to a misdemeanor and lets Foster walk with community service on the entire deal.

    How does that happen in this country when everyone in the NFL knows a black man has not a prayer in this corrupt system stacked against people of color, especially when before a white judge?!

    Oh, maybe it’s all bullshit?! Nevermind.

    Of course Goodell has the authority to punish bad behavior, despite no formal conviction of a crime. It’s called the CBA and the Personal Conduct Policy. Everyone connected to the league has agreed to live by it.

    Stop your crying and whining because people don’t like what you blindly accept. And keep preaching diversity like a lunatic hypocrite while you club any dissenters over the head with your “free speech.”

  48. Uncle ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Free to act just like me! That was Bush II, right? Goose steps, baby! Blindly accept? You are the one with cheetoh dust on you. You are the one ignoring the facts of the case, But that doesn’t fit the agenda, does it? Ennis has already been convicted of, and served time for lying to the police about a DV case. Does that mean anything? Did anyone involved SEE Foster hit her? No. So, it’s all hearsay. You conspiracy deep state guys are so cute.

    The constitutionality of the CBA may be a grey area, how being ‘fairly attributable’ is applied certainly can be hashed out should the NFL become too onerous in their actions, but in many of these cases, the NFL has prior knowledge AND evidence of these crimes, or non-crimes. So, the NFL can on one hand try to cover up the incident, give a hand-slap for it, and then impose a sentence, as in Ray Rice’s case. Forget double jeopardy, try triple jeopardy. Or they can coerce, manipulate evidence, and lie as in the Brady case. They are doing the right thing, Right? Sorry, NoFear, THAT is blindly accepting.

  49. Uncle ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    A life sentence in Ray Rice’s case.

  50. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This is quite a naïve comment

    “Expensive movie theaters and nfl stadiums deserve their fate.”

    The ludicrous notion that NFL owners are suffering and going broke is myopic when you see that the Carolina Panthers are going to fetch $2.5 billion plus shows that owning a team is as good an investment as a person of wealth can wish for.

    Ticket sales are only a small part of team’s revenue. It’s the TV contracts like the recent Fox bid for 11 games of Thursday Night Football which they paid $650 million for

    .NFL is about to sign record TV deals so not sure where the failure is.

    Not sure where you live but movie theaters are far from empty with the recent “Avengers Infinity War” earning $1 Billion in a little over a week. If you take the top six movies this year, tickets sold would exceed the population of the US and this is only in half a year.

    You need to deal with the facts if you are able to.

  51. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If Niner Faithful can survive Tomsula/Baalke with a dash of Kelly, it just made our resolve stronger.
    Looking forward to the next chapter which looks like the team will be a factor and in the fight.

    As John Madden said “Winning is the best deodorant” and I have no doubt that Niner tickets will be hard to come by and Levis will be packed.

    Don’t really give ac crap whats happening in Oakland and Cincinnati,
    just think the team will provide much to discuss in a positive sense.
    Looking forward to the coming season and the era of Jimmy G.

  52. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners have finished their OTAs

    TO elected to HOF and now says he’s skipping the induction. Something happened to this guy’s head after he celebrated a TD on the Cowgurls star at midfield.

  53. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    bullit-TO is just another me first super talented athlete. The NFL is full of em. I doubt he will be missed at the ceremony. MY guess is he will show up but just wants to get in the news now.

    I also agree that the Niners will be a team to recon with and by next year be a force.

  54. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Congratulations Warriors Back to Back World Champions and 3 out of 4 to start a Golden Dynasty.

  55. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Earl Thomas is not attending Seahags MANDATORY minicamp and will not show up until his contract situation is resolved. Thomas is on the last year of his contract so he seems to seriously want out being the last member of their heralded secondary.

    Couple that with Petey having to break in 2 new coordinators with an offense run by Schottenheimer’s son which should mean more running than a Greg Roman offense.

    Seahags might never recover from Butler’s interception in the Super Bowl when “Beast mode” might have won the game.

  56. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17