Giants 30, 49ers 27

Close, but no seegar. For the second straight week, the 49ers wracked up a moral victory. And also lost their fourth game in a row. Last week, the defense was respectable and the offense stunk. This week the offense actually resembled one — an offense, that is — but the defense stunk.

The moral victory was so encouraging to the team that QB Colin Kaepernick started talking about going 12-4 by winning out. Down boy!

The 49ers started the game by baby stepping Kaepernick with a few short, quick throws and running lots of Carlos Hyde. Kaepernick got through the half without imploding, but the team only scored six points.

The second half was a different ball game. With neither team able to mount a pass rush, each QB just dropped back, completed passes, and traded scores until the 49ers ran out of time. It was one of those games where last team with the ball wins.

Through five games, the 49ers new identity is starting to emerge. The defense is pretty good at home and awful on the road. The offense is terrible when Kaepernick is pressured, mediocre when he’s not, and reasonable when facing an awful secondary like the Giants have. It’s pretty much the story of an NFL team going nowhere.

It was a great victory for Kaepernick, though. On the verge of being laughed out of the league, he finally stopped the bleeding with one of the best games he’s had in over a year. Whether that holds up in the days ahead remains to be seen. After next Sunday’s game, he’ll have four games against the defenses of Seattle, St. Louis, and Arizona. If he crumbles in those games, the Niners will be 0-5 in the division and wondering whom they should draft next year.

Anquan Boldin keeps raising the hopeful flag, frequently mentioning how young the team is. But on defense the only first year player is CB Kenneth Acker, and on offense, there are no rookies at all. Just bad young players, with a sprinkle of bad old players.

Not to rain on Kaepernick’s euphoria over playing one good game, or Boldin’s relentless optimism, but this team is a whole lot more likely to be 2-7 at the BYE week, than 12-4 at the season’s end. And that’s only if they can beat the reeling Ravens next Sunday in Santa Clara. Otherwise, it’ll be 1-8 at the BYE with a trip to Seattle afterwards and another game against Arizona to follow.

12 and 4 are still in play for the season record, but it’s much more likely to be just the opposite from Kaepernick’s hopes.

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  1. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking as Phils avatar, he was nice enough to let me drop in for a minute coming up on Halloween:

    So the headless corpse is not quite dead after the Head head chopper whacked off my noggin, the winning head coach. Bad move. What are you guys? 1-5? Wait till next week then. Nice little wiggle in the body today. Almost got ‘er done. Sign of life. Kinda. I guess you were better off with real men leading you mighty men. We were okay there until the head head chopper…but you know the story, Well gotta go back to winning football. Making Michigan great again. Thanks Phil.

    No problem Jimi. Any time. Head choppers, I hate ’em.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jed York really doesn’t like Jim Harbaugh

    We all know the story that Jed had Harbaugh’s display removed at the 49er Museum.

    This is just Jed York being the spoiled petulant trust fund baby.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I have come up with a brilliant way to show the 49er Fan’s disapproval of Jed York’s actions. You use York’s kryptonite
    which is Harbaugh.

    Most Niner fans own a pair of khaki pants. Add to that either a NIner black sweatshirt and cap or a Michigan sweatshirt and cap.
    If you get a congregation of 50-100+ fans dressing up like Harbaugh it will get on TV and embarrass Jed or at least piss him, off. It is simple and doable and beats wearing a paper bag over your head and channeling the Unknown Comic.

    I hope the idea gets legs because it’ll send out a powerful message.

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The good news is the Niners have two straight home games.
    The not so good news is these home games will be played in the next 10 days with a short week following the Raven’s game to play the Seahags.

    Maiocco said the Niners cannot re-sign Kendall Hunter this season due to the structure of his injury settlement. Reggie Bush has proven to be a expensive waste of a roster spot.
    They run him into the line and he get’s hurt. He’s good for 2 plays every other week for no gain.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In 2010 the Niners were 0-5 and a cocky Jed declared that Niners still could win the division. Perhaps if disaster struck the other three teams in your division.

    Kap has been hanging out with Jed too much and drinking the Kool-Aid that the Yorks serve.

  6. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Ravens have enough injuries that even a offseason wrecked niners could beat. Flacco needs to get production out of Chris Givens, one game newcomer from the Rams.

    Secondary is very weak and front seven without Suggs. O is missing Steve Smith Sr. WR.

    This could be a win. Think Eli Manning without the WR’s.

  7. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like opposing offenses are picking on Bowman in the pass game. Targeted 10 times last night and all 10 completed, including game winner.

  8. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Top three 2015 picks need to be producers for Ravens. 2nd Rd Maxx Williams TE to attack weak ILB unit. 1st Rd Breshad Perriman needs to replace Torrey Smith. He may be injured? 3rd Rd Carl Davis is a clone of Quinton Dial.

    Chris Givens was a steal from the Rams, who went game manager with Foles and Todd Gurley their Frank Gore. Rookie OL’s cannot be counted on to pass block well this year.

  9. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    LB Gerald Hodges needs to be their nickel LB asap. He used to be a safety but got too big. Supposed to be better than Nick Moody.

  10. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Eric Mangini’s 49ers defense currently is ranked 31st. Vic Fangio’s Bears defense is ranked 9th.”

  11. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Their remaining schedule is easy. Jeremiah Ratliff is back and Jarvis Jenkins a good replacement of Ray MacDonald. Eddie Goldman NT is an able rookie. Pernell McPhee OLB is a great FA pickup from the Ravens.

    Fangio’s D is more than enough to throttle CK. Bears O just added Jacquize Rodgers to the IR list. Alshon Jeffrey should be back soon?

  12. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    If the 49ers are going to get another win in the next few months, it’s going to be against the Ravens. They suck. Bad. Worse than Bullit’s analysis of ….. anything.

    The Raven / 49er game is a case of two teams that went to the Super Bowl recently, then didn’t reload their guns successfully and now need to rebuild. Say what you want about how great a GM Ozzie Newsome is, but no great GM has a total collapse after a Super Bowl win (unless of course the knuckleheaded new owner sticks his nose in and pays the QB an ungodly amount after the SB win).

  13. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    If we can keep playing teams with a decimated secondary we have a chance! And thanks to Jon Beason MLB, for taking himself out of the game at the earliest opportunity.

    As for our defense, Eli beat us in the end without Cruz, Beckham and Randle. Pretty much just to the RB Vereen which we couldn’t stop. Mangini had Tartt in as ILB/DB covering Vereen at that point and Bowman covering the TE Donnell.

    I don’t think Fangio/Donatell would have stood dumbfounded and helpless on the sideline as we lost like that.

    Is Jed tweeting his apologies to the faithful yet?

  14. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I’d give a lot to have seen Jed’s defiant happiness in his booth turn to dejected defeat in a minute and a half.

  15. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    If I was in a luxury box with Jed I wouldn’t want to watch Jed go from happy to sad. I’d want to kick him square in the berries. I’d go to jail for that. Walk up. Pretend like I’m going to shake his hand with a smile on my face. Instead, kick him right in the berries… hard. To where he’d have to bend over in excruciating pain. Then his handlers and cops would come in and arrest me, maybe beat me, and I’d go to jail for it… gladly.

    I’d go in front of the judge and declare myself guilty for kicking Jed York in the berries and my entire defense would be based on the hope the judge was once a Niner fan…. or I’d even settle for just an educated football fan. Then when the case was thrown out, I’d tell his lawyer I’d like to meet with Jed in person to apologize…. only hoping to get one more shot at blackening berries. More than likely Jed’s lawyer would see through it and say “no” and my response would be to kick Jed’s lawyer in the berries, just to send the establishment another clear message.

  16. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    With this schedule, Jed will not escape what he did to this team. After Baltimore, we should be underdogs for the rest of the season.

    Media will sharpen and crescendo the ridicule all the way to SB week.

  17. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The won-loss record will speak loudest of all.

  18. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Funny you should mention W/L record.

    2008 2-4 (got Nolan fired)
    2010 1-5 (got Singletary fired)
    2011 5-1
    2012 4-2
    2013 4-2
    2014 4-2 (got Harbaugh fired)
    2015 ?-?

    The _best_ hope is a 2-4 record after six games. That’s York and Singletary territory. Somebody should have their ass(es) kicked for bringing the paying public this farce and insulting the intelligence of most fans by selling it with a straight face as mutual and unavoidable. Not too many left calling us insane for predicting what was obvious.

  19. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Well, York said he wanted to bring the team back to its core values. I guess that means being a loser.

  20. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Shareece Wright signed by the Ravens.

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap apparently doesn’t know where the play clock is calling that time out with 2 seconds left in the 3rd quarter and 9 seconds left on the real play clock. That didn’t really matter but could’ve been a bonehead play if the Niners needed that timeout.
    Kap did very well yesterday except for that brain fart.

    This is the bonehead play of the weekend by a QB.

  22. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Sarkisian is fired by U$C today and they just announced ex Niner
    punter and backup QB Steve Spurrier “the old ball coach” is retiring effective immediately from his HC job at South Carolina.

  23. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Why even watch 49er games? Honestly. Why?

  24. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    For the same reason people stop to gawk at car wrecks.

  25. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Why even watch 49er games? Honestly. Why?”

    There’s the car wreck angle for sure = ‘Man this is gruesome, awful, horrible; what will fall apart next?’ Then there’s the ‘I was right in Feb ’14 when the “trade Jimi to CLE shit hit the fan” angle’. So was Spit over on Blag X. See it’s not brain surgery to figure if you CUT OFF THE HEAD of the patient, the body will die. And here we have a dead team with few signs of life (winning). Headless, perfect for Halloween.

    But granted the thrills of ‘being right’ about the obvious are limited. No doubt. So getting up at 1 AM to maybe watch the Niners lose to the Rams, CHI, CLE, DET on the road is not going to happen. It was much easier when the team was on the 44 wins + 5 playoff wins track. Yeah, the reasons are weaker to watch these day but having said that I still would like the SF Forty Niners to win every game. No complaints if they do win a game but just not going to expect it. Yes the motivation to watch is greatly reduced. How many car/train wrecks can you take?

  26. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    There is a lot of talent on this team still. Engine cannot get out of low range gears with bad qb and little outside pass rush.

    So consider this lost season like an extended preseason for 2016. Fans watch for the promise of next year.

  27. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Watching Vick struggle with accuracy and unfamiliar territory is strangely similar to watching Kaepernick, without the read option plays. Antonio Brown is a monster talent and may as well be wasting away as a 49er as having Vick for his QB.

    Gotta love Rivers. Nobody stands in the pocket under pressure like Rivers and still makes a play, any play he can. Never gives up.

  28. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I wanna be watching when little Jed York apologizes for his stupidity and for hating football and getting stuck running a team nobody else in his family but Eddie wanted. And for his Mom and Dad being so vindictive they wouldn’t let Eddie have it back.

  29. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Apologize little Jed York! Do it on teevee as soon as we are mathematically out of the playoffs. Like you promised.

  30. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Great seats last night on the NYG side of the End Zone where TBrock got the early INT and, Bowman narrowly missed a game-saving play on Donnell.
    I thought we screwed ourselves by not managing the clock on our final score.

    If ever there was a time to run the clock down to a second or 2, that was the spot.
    Can’t be too upset at the last second loss, the game was phenomenal in terms of being competitive.
    Fully expected to struggle all night on Offense.
    Instead, the Defense couldn’t get it done in the end.

    Bowman WAS on that pass however, can’t say anything other than, good throw and catch, between Eli and Donnell.

  31. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er I don’t want to hear a word from Jed. EVER.
    Just STFU and stay quiet.
    I isn’t about him for me.
    Let the football people run the football team.
    He’s a clueless twit, that apparently needs to be relevant through his Ownership credentials.
    I’m all for the examples set by Owners like the Rooney’s and Mara’s in this League.
    Stay SILENT!

  32. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I got see this play from the perspective of the guy in the white hat with the face paint.
    Bowman was right on that ball.
    Thought for sure he was going to swat it out.
    Missed it by ‘THAT’ much.

  33. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Phillip River is my favorite qb in the NFL – by far. That guy is so much fun to watch, and way, way underrated. If he was on the East coast, he’d be a super star. He’s been my fantasy football qb for the last three years in a row because nobody’s more fun to watch.
    Who doesn’t like 5 kids and bolo ties?

    Last week against the Browns was vintage Rivers. This week he got beaten by the Steelers and Vick, but it wasn’t for a lack of effort. The Chargers, even though they’ve only won two games, will still make the playoffs as a wildcard. Rivers will beat the Raiders and Chiefs twice, and he’ll split with wounded duck Manning.

  34. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Greg Roman is being called a candidate for the recently vacated U$C Head Coaching job

  35. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Curious about Spurrier’s resignation too Bullit.
    He and Baalke could have a connection by way of their days together in DC.
    Not that I’d want Spurrier in the NFL again, but….?

  36. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Hey NJ – How’s your Baalke love comin’ along? Reggie Bush? Not paying Vernon Davis – with Vernon a walking holdout two years in a row? Torrey Smith over Mike Iupati? Blaine Gabbert? Trading away Carrier but keeping “hands” Vance McDonald? Jesus. No wonder this team sucks… and you were gonna crown Baalke king of all GMs…. ouch. Sucks to be you.

  37. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Not at all Spit.
    I’m still a 9er fan.
    Sucks to be you Pal.
    You’re simply in it for the pain.

    Baalke has his job to do.
    If he fails to correct what’s occurred, he’s just as culpable as anyone else involved with the team.
    My feelings haven’t changed on how he does what he’s paid to do.

    I am, however, wondering just how much Jed is manipulating the situation.
    Reggie was likely an insurance move for Hunter.
    Obviously Reggie isn’t cutting it in terms of staying healthy.
    I’d be more concerned if Baalke hadn’t made contingency plans.
    Torrey was a necessary addition for an Offense that struggles to throw deep.
    He is an improvement over Crabtree in terms of deep speed.
    Iupati was offered an extension that obviously wasn’t to his liking.
    These are all part of Cap Mgt. Can’t pay everyone.
    Gabbert is certainly a better pocket passer than Kaep at this point too.
    Enjoy the pain over there in Geneoushire.
    I’ll handle my end.

  38. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    VMcD is already being phased out through the additions of Bell and Anderson.
    Vernon and Brooks are high priced starters that are coming to the end as well.
    As stated, Baalke works the roster for future needs too.
    It ain’t ALL about Draft Picks.
    Cap Mgt is equally important to keeping the roster depth in line.
    Aldon flamed out of course but, he was a solid Pick at the time.

  39. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Spurrier just wants to enjoy life because he’s 70 now.

  40. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The betting line opens with the Niners as a 2.5 point home underdog against the Ravens.
    This might be one of the most winnable games on the schedule.

  41. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit they played much better last night, I’ll give them that much.
    Curious why Spurrier just up and walked without notice?
    Very, very strange move IMO.

  42. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    In 2016, out are Bush, VD, and Brooks. Bethea??? Staley???

    All the young are getting many reps this season. No need to bring any over the hill types for seasoning anywhere.

    Maybe QB???

  43. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    All depends on how they play out the season this year Bakkentom.
    Gotta hope they hit on Smelter.
    Hoping they can develop DeAndrew/Dres too.
    Staley should stick simply because he’s remained healthy.
    Curious to see what develops with Boone though.
    Definitely will need to address the OT depth in the coming Draft.

  44. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    At the pace we’re going, a top 10 Pick isn’t impossible.

  45. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep NJ they were at least competitive last night. Showed signs of life and glad for you at the game it was close. I do agree that the clock management at end of game could have been better running time off. I’d have to see the end of the game = Niners last drive, which I can’t but looks like they scored too soon. As soon as they scored to go up 27-24 I looked at the game clock and said “UH Oh, too much time for our D to try to stop ’em”. Then the obligatory interference call on rookie Tartt to give NY a fist down, yeah I saw that ticky tacky BS call coming. I lay that time business on the new OC but would like to see it again…we did have our run game working in 2nd half…

  46. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – Oh so, the Baalke laundry list of terrible free agent moves and bad draft choices is now because Jed York is “manipulating the system?” I see. From Baalke lover to Baalke apologist. Funny how that works. Sucks to be you.

  47. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil I was paying attention to the Secondary and OLine play most of the night.
    Like what I saw of Acker and Ward.
    Acker bit too hard inside on OBJ’s TD.
    Kid can tackle though, as does Ward.

    We’re young and struggling in some areas but, I didn’t see anyone taking plays off.
    Lynch was relentless, just got there a step too late on several occasions.

    Bowman still doesn’t have his wheels back.
    Can’t say I’m surprised.
    Tough injury to return from but, I’ll give him his due for working to regain his game.
    Thought Mangini got a little too conservative late.
    Eli was definitely targeting Bowman inside.
    Hodges may well be an option to help in pass coverage going forward?
    Not sure Bowman can handle the current load for the entire season.
    If we tank the 2 NFC West games before the BYE, I’d consider a youth movement on a grander scale.

  48. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spit give it up dude.
    I can’t call Bethea, Boldin, or Torrey bad FA moves.
    Pears certainly isn’t looking like a world beater but, had AD not bailed when he did, that move may not have been necessary.
    As stated, Bush isn’t contributing for us right now but, in terms of preparing for Hunter to recover, the move made sense to me at the time.

    If Jed is manipulating the GM position, Baalke is doomed to fail, just as is Snyder has done in DC.
    You conveniently forget that Baalke got Harbaugh to sign on in the first place.
    And, if Kaep bombs, you’ll likely pin that on Baalke too I’m sure.
    I’ve said it many times, Baalke needs someone to help him get the Offense in line.
    He’s a Defensive guy.
    Harbaugh was that guy.
    As we know, it flamed out.
    I’m not about pointing fingers, as you seem to enjoy.
    What’s done is done. It needs to be corrected.
    We’ll see if he can get it back on the rails.
    I just want Jed to stay out of it.

  49. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, we were running negative yardage plays at the goal line after all. Can’t do more than that to slow the clock. Maybe it wasn’t intentional.

    Once the two-minute warning hit and the DPI call, the game clock wasn’t going to run until the snap. Also damned lucky that NYG db Kaepernick threw the ball at in the end zone, trying to hit Celek, couldn’t catch. That would have lost the game and been another of Kaepernick’s final minute bad throws costing us a game. He dodged a big flaming bullet there. But, run or pass at that point wouldn’t have made much difference on the clock.

    Of course that DPI on Acker helped them score more easily, too. Moved them from the 20 to the 12? and an extra first down. And that wasn’t incidental contact. No way that doesn’t draw a flag.

    I remember Collinsworth or Michaels mentioning three of Kaepernicks bad passes should have been picked by the Giants. Sounded about right.

  50. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    btw, I agree Bowman made a good play on the TD ball to Donnell and had good coverage and position. Just missed it.

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er I enjoyed the game at least, from an effort perspective.
    Our Secondary is young and they were flying around.
    A little haphazard at times but, they will improve with reps together I’m sure.
    The final play seemed like it happened 2 rows in front of me.
    I caught a picture of the snap but wasn’t running video of the entire play unfortunately.
    Happened in a blink.

    If you checked the picture of the link I posted earlier, the guy with the white hat/face paint was down the steps to the right of me.
    In that pic, you see how close Bowman was to ripping that pass out of his hands.
    Very exciting play to see live.
    Eli made a helluva throw there.
    Just wish we could’ve broken the NYG fans’ hearts, instead of the result we got.

    Great day of tailgating, excellent game to see live.
    Grandson #2 saw his first game too, albeit a heart-breaker of a loss.

    Well worth a night off from the daily routine 😀

  52. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah perfect spot to see that play. Happy it was a good game to be there.

  53. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yes indeed NoFear49er.
    Beats the alternative of getting embarrassed.

    Gotta say, the 9ers were well represented inside and outside the stadium.
    Had some fun inviting 9er clad passers-by to the tailgate with my NYG buddies, just to photo bomb their festivities 😀
    Even had a good laugh with my daughter, involving a guy wearing a 9er cap and a Victor Cruz jersey.
    Talk about conflicted?

    Even razzed a guy a row in front of us, wearing a Marshawn Lynch jersey and, cheering for the 9ers on a few occasions.
    Asked him if he was at the right game 😀

    Didn’t seem to have a clue. Obviously.

  54. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    KICK Kaepernick is Coach Killer

    So Tomsula is saying Kick Me!

  55. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Well bakkentom I only mention this once per year to each prognosticator but you are this weeks biggest loser with the 32 point spread. Hell even Spitwad beat you, lol.

    I saw this before I read NFs comments above about our clock mgmt on last drive but I’ll post it anyway from Ninermd @ Cohns blag:

    “This is my biggest problem with Chryst…

    Why on earth are you calling pass plays on the goaline on 1st and 2nd down with 2 plus minutes left and NY with all of their timeouts remaining? That is another “little”reason they lost. You must make them burn those or take more time off of the clock. Worst case is a fg that ties the game. Horrible calls, horrible management and yes some of it goes on ck. No way AR or TB do not audible out of that 2nd down call if they missed the first pass down there, then again I’m sure their OC’s wouldn’t call that garbage at that time.”

    FWIW. I wish I could see that whole drive. NJ I’m jealous…

  56. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Not highly rated but Niners should consider drafting Step[hen Anderson as a “joker” TE from Cal.
    Thios guy just has a knack of getting open, finding soft spots
    in zones. He’ll help move the chains.
    Right now he’s rated as a late round pick but could be an hidden gem.

  57. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    If Baalke has trouble drafting players for offense that makes him a lousy GM.
    Having a blindspot for half your team is a fatal flaw and it is showing up with this year’s offense.

  58. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Maiocco writes about the 2015 Niner FA signings that have proven to be busts

    Add up the wasted bonus money and Niners could afford to re-sign Iupati or retain one of last year’s CBs. Instead just wasted money especially on Wright and Dockett ($4.5 mil).

  59. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The entire referee crew (to be referred to forevermore as The Rosemary Woods Crew) lost 18 seconds on the clock near the end of last night’s game.

    The Steelers received the kickoff at 2:56. The kick returner never left the endzone. Somehow they began play with 2:38. Any one of the 6 could have noticed the discrepancy and notified the referee.

    You will never convince me that these part-time NFL refs know what they’re doing, or that they’re immune to Home Field Advantage.

  60. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – Baalke is one of the worst GMs in the league but many uneducated or misquided 49er fans, like NJ, are lost regarding Baalke. Baalke got a great deal of the credit for the 49er success when Harbaugh was winning with Scot McCloughan players. And I’m now certain Harbaugh knew Baalke was a bad GM saying, “I want this exact team back next year and I don’t care what the front office says.” To me, that means Harbaugh knew his GM was bad and didn’t want him to continue to tamper with the team.

    If you look at all the free agent moves Baalke has made, and also look at his drafts, you’ll see plainly that Baalke is a bad GM.

    Number 1: Bad drafts – AJ Jenkins, LaMichael James, Vance McDonald, Cory Lemon, the entire 2012 draft, 50 draft choices in 5 years and still one of the worst rosters in the NFL. An inability to draft another qb.

    Number 2: Free agents – Blaine Gabbert (for 2 million a year when Vernon was looking for a raise), Reggie Bush, choosing Torrey Smith over Iupati, Bethea, Pears, Brandon Lloyd. Trading Carrier who’s now doing well in Washington while Vance McDonald and Vernon Davis do nothing in SF.

    Number 3: Letting players walk without using the franchise tag or offering them fair contracts: Culliver, Whitner, Brown, Skuta, Walker, Iupati, Crabtree (rumored Crabtree was offered more in SF but he took less for the Raiders), Gore, Goldson.

    The real indictment is the players who retired: Willis, Borland, Justin SMith and Anthony Davis. Who wants to risk injury for a Trent Baalke designed team owned by Jed York?

    NJ is an idiot for loving Trent Baalke. Trent Baalke is one of the top five worst GMs in the NFL.

  61. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Am agreeing with both of you. I lost a post during the night but TB is gunshy with QB and WR. In a passing league the play makers are getting the big money. If TB incompetent with those 2 positions then either fire him or hire a VP of personnel to handle those two position groups.

  62. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke is terrible at mixing and matching.
    He needs to put the pieces together to build the offense.
    It makes little sense to pay big bucks for a deep threat when you don’t have the Oline to enable and afford your QB enough time
    to stand back and hit the deep throw.
    After 5 games T Smith has not opened up the medium underneath passes and they have only hit on one long pass for a TD.

    It was Baalke’s responsibility to monitor Brandon Thomas’ rehab
    and how likely he was to play as well as Kilgore’s. It appears he miscalculated expecting both to be ready for the start of the year and neglected to fortify the Oline which is one of the root causes of an anemic offense.
    It is inexcusable that he hasn’t used a draft pick on a QB for the last 4 drafts.

  63. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Is TB really that bad. Skeebs pointed out that TB wanted Gase but Jed meddled and aborted the deal. TB just let Jed have his way and his first 3 picks drafted D.

    He is allowing the O to tank the team. Jed won the fight so phuck it. Jed will learn the hard way and back off in the future.

    IMO we need to send all QB’s to outside QB clinics in the offseason until we have an intelligent NFL QB that can command a modern offense.

  64. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I’m impressed so far with what Jay Gruden and Scot McCloughan are doing together in Washington. Daniel Snyder looks to be taking a backseat. The only indicator I have of that is RGII.5 in street clothes (which is the right move). Gruden and McCloughan are doing two things: run the ball and stop the run. And Captain Kirk Cousins is also being patient and not turning the ball over often (despite losing in OT on a pick six after O line made the wrong protection adjustment and receiver fell down).

    The Redskins are also featuring some old 49ers – Trenton Robinson, Ricky Jean Frank ‘n Bean and Derek Carrier. I know Frank ‘n Bean was a McCloughan guy….

    Either way, the game is simple when building a team – run the ball and stop the run and be patient on offense. It’s not rocket surgery.

  65. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Only two of the 22 players the 49ers have selected in the first four rounds since 2012 are starters: Eric Reid and Carlos Hyde.”

  66. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers – The real problem still is York. I think this blog above all others has ferreted-out the issue with Baalke being way overrated and taking credit largely for McCloughan and Harbaugh success. But the real problem isn’t Baalke because firing and hiring is easy to do the minute it needs to be done. The real problem is in the “knowing when it needs to be done,” because York can’t evaluate. Jed York has hired Baalke, Tomsula and Singletary – and fired McCloughan and Harbaugh. YIKES!!!

    Jim Harbaugh hired himself. It wasn’t that Baalke and York put on some great recruiting campaign to lure Harbaugh to SF. Jim Harbaugh saw what few others saw – that the 49ers had some nice pieces and just needed to add a few more pieces (a coaching staff being one), and the 49ers could contend for Super Bowls. Harbaugh chose less money to go with the 49ers over more money with the Dolphins because the roster was better – not stacked, but better. He’s doing the same thing right now in Michigan. Nobody thought Harbaugh could contend this year for a national championship. And nobody thought Harbaugh and the 49ers would make it to the NFC Championship game in 2011.

    Nolan hired McCloughan. So aside from McCloughan and Harbaugh (the best two things to ever hit Niner football in decades and ironically the two men York has fired), York has hired Baalke, Singletary and Tomsula. And Jed wants a teacher….? Jesus. That’s your problem, 49er fans. If Jed can’t assess and evaluate … If Jed can’t sort out for himself who’s good and who’s bad, the 49ers will never go anywhere – especially after the unsuccessful smear campaign York lead against Harbaugh last year.

    Mark my words – This team is doomed for decades.

  67. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Egos just signed OL Tanner Hawkinson off the Niners Practice
    Baalke now has to add some Olineman to the PS as Tiller and Hawkinson are now on 53 man rosters.

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners have added WR Andrew Turzilli, and a center, Brian Folkerts to the Practice Squad.

  69. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Going to be a very nervous week in the 49er FO. If the team can’t beat the Ravens next Sunday, they’ll know that all is lost. So will the players.

  70. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You have to wonder why Bruce Ellington was only targeted twice
    last Sunday and caught both passes for 30 and 9 yds.
    Ellington was very effective yet he was utilized only 2 times from scrimmage.
    OC needs to use his most effective weapons and be aware what’s working.

  71. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    The players, fans, coaches, FO… they all know all is lost. Every game for the next decade is just about pride. The internal struggle of a 49er player holding his head up on a bad team will forever be the only entertainment left for football fans.

  72. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I should clarify “lost.” I think these meatheads would have jumped for joy with a seven or eight win season, maybe even six. Losing to the Ravens would bring 3 or 4 win season into play, maybe even less.

  73. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    23-17 Niners

  74. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers – When I write 2-14, it’s not hyperbole. Do you really think Jim Tomsula is going to match wits with John Harbaugh?

  75. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    And furthermore, Skeebers – Don’t you think John Harbaugh is going to do everything in his power to stick it to Jed York next Sunday? Don’t you think a win for the Ravens is a big, big win the for the Harbaugh family? John and his mother and father watched quietly last year as York and the NFL Network smeared Harbaugh. Don’t you think all of them want some retribution?

    And don’t you think the Ravens’ players are gonna have John Harbaugh’s back?

    42-20, Ravens.

  76. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Hell – there might even be some Niner players who secretly hated the way York treated Harbaugh and they might even roll over next Sunday in protest, hoping Harbaugh is avenged by brother John. Why not? What’s to lose?

  77. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If they get a competent experienced football GM and the right top tier coach the Niners can be turned around in 2-3 years and not the 10-20 as chikin little suggests.

  78. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Spitblood, tis a consummation devoutly to be wished.

  79. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, as long as York and Baalke are joined at the hip, the franchise will suck.

  80. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Who cares? Playboy is getting rid of nudity. The world is coming to an end.

  81. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    That’s why I said they have to get “a competent experienced football GM”. Sooner or later he gets jettisoned.

  82. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spit I’ve pointed out numerous times, Baalke gave the keys to Harbaugh for the QB to replace Alex.
    I’m also on record suggesting that LMJ was a Harbaugh selection, based on his comments about having to prepare for him as HC while at Stanford.
    I continue to defend his position within the Organization as a good football guy.
    He comes from a Scouting background as well.
    The line I’ve attempted to defend is whether he’s being given authority to do his job, without interference from Jed.

    Harbaugh continued to favor Josh Johnson as a viable QB option along the way as well. So, to suggest he isn’t Drafting QBs goes to the possibility that he relied on Harbaugh to handle that position.

    I have no problem with Baalke seeking assistance from his HC to improve the Offense either.
    I thought the alignment with Harbaugh was a perfect marriage at the time it occurred.
    For whatever the reasons, it failed. Miserably.

    Baalke is signed through 2016 if memory serves.
    You may get your wish to have him replaced after next year, if things can’t be put back on the rails.
    I contend that the QB position is the most important piece of the Offense.
    If Kaep fails, it’s clear that Harbaugh came up short on that transition.
    A topic I’ve debated several times, regarding the possible conflict that could have been created, regarding Kaep’s development.

    For my money, an Owner should not interfere with the duties of the GM.
    The Gase signing efforts cause me major concerns, about whether Jed meddled up that plan by Baalke.
    IMO the GM needs to have a HC that shares a common vision for the team.
    The Owner should stay FAR away from that relationship.

  83. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    This was a critical year for Baalke.
    More than ever the Niners needed him to replenish the roster
    with all the defections.
    It seemed he made little effort to retain all the free agents that left.
    IIRC the only guy he re-signed was Kendall Hunter.
    As I’ve stated previously it’s on Baalke to know where players are on their rehab. He assumed that Kilgore and Brandon Thomas would be ready by training camp. That was a total miscalculation and that’s on him. The right side of the Oline is castoff free agents from other teams.

    Troubling is what Gore said that Baalke wouldn’t even sit down with him to discuss a contract. Gore being one of the greatest running backs in Niner history was at least owed a face to face but Baalke appears to be an arrogant SOB.

    It also would’ve been nice to retain either Cox or Culliver and
    Acker is a liability because he is raw. He should’ve been worked in slowly because he’s essentially a rookie.

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I don’t disagree with your POV.
    It was a perfect storm of BS this off season.
    I’m most concerned about how much Jed is involved with the decisions that should be given solely to Baalke?
    Rehab is tough to predict.
    I think Baalke made some contingency plans with BThomas to replace Iupati, who I suspected was gone the moment he didn’t take the extension offer.
    Baalke appeared to prefer to retain him.
    Gore? That’s a curious situation at best.
    Granted, we likely weren’t going to offer the sort of deal Indy did at his age.
    My guess? Baalke likely offered 1yr, if that.

    I’ll take the lumps associated with the youth movement in the Secondary.
    The bigger issue there, for me, is the change of the Defensive scheme, which may have prompted some of those changes?
    Again, if the QB can’t control the Offense, we’ll need a HC that can assist there.
    Hence, my curiosity surrounding Spurrier.
    Baalke did just Draft Spurrier’s QB, Dylan Thompson this Spring.
    I’ve read that Shareece Wright was expected to be insurance for injuries in the Secondary and, Dockett was likely a hedge against Arik not being ready to contribute early on.

    I do think Baalke thinks ahead, which I can’t fault him for.
    Replacing Willis, Borland and AD isn’t something he likely expected to have to deal with as quickly as he was forced to either.
    We’ll see what he’s made of soon enough.
    He needs assistance on the Offensive side, especially if they can’t get Kaep comfortable in the Pocket.
    I see the QB as the biggest issue we’ve faced since Alex was Drafted.
    Any successful franchise in this League requires a QB to make it go.

  85. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The Hodges Trade at least addresses the loss of depth associated to ILB.
    Our OLine continues to struggle.
    Whether it’s the ZBS change, I can’t be sure?
    Pears is an OG playing OT. Not the perfect fit.
    We’ll see if Baalke has the pieces within the roster now or, I’d suspect an OT will be high on the Draft List next Spring.
    Kilgore should be an upgrade over Martin, we’ll see.
    Losing the personnel we did is a major issue to correct.

  86. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Armstead played 24 snaps on Sunday and was shut out with zero defensive stats.
    Lemonier and Harold had 30 plus snaps each and also recorded zero stats.
    I’m not sure how Mangini is using Reid but he seems to be out of the picture in most plays as a free safety this year.

  87. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit from what I saw, Eli was getting the ball out quickly.
    Lynch was getting there a step or 2 late most of the night.
    We are struggling on the inside LB coverage, which is where Vereen was eating us alive.
    Good play calling and execution for the NYG.
    I wasn’t expecting much, if anything from Armstead at all this year.
    Seeing as they released Dockett, I’ll assume they think Armstead can deliver something?

    We’re sucking worse than I expected on Offense to be honest.
    Defense has shown some signs of life but, not firing on all cylinders.
    Gotta Kaep and the passing game going.
    Reggie Bush should have been a weapon on the short stuff but, as we know, he’s MIA.
    Maybe the NYG game will get them going?
    Gotta do something with the OLine in terms of inside running.
    That is where I’m hoping Kilgore can help.
    Glad to see Tomsula is tinkering with the personnel there too.

  88. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Playboy’s getting rid of nudity? Who thought up that brainstorm? What else do they have to offer? Insightful journalism? That won’t work.

  89. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, as for Baalke, I think you lay off all the bad too easily on others. If he decides to listen to input from others or not, it’s his decision and thus the results are on him.

    I seriously doubt Baalke listened to Harbaugh on QBs and defied him at every other turn. But even if he did, it’s on him.

    And if you blame Harbaugh, that’s on Baalke as well, just as if he’d drafted a bust. You think Harbaugh ruined the team? No different than drafting a first overall bust. Baalke hired him. How good a GM are you if you can’t get along with the guy you hired and who is to blame for that?

    I’m not saying Harbaugh was a snake, but if you hire a snake how do you fire him for being a snake and pretend it wasn’t your fault in the first place?

    Last year it was on the coaching, this year it’s on the players, until it’s on the coaching again?

    You must have thought watching the game the defense was getting too cute trying to fool Eli but only taking themselves out of position too far doing it. Do you think the safeties thought of that themselves? Eli is too smart for Mangini.

  90. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er It’s the dynamic that puzzles me between the Harbaugh/Baalke relationship.
    I feel as though Baalke wanted an Offense, for which he turned to Harbaugh for that assistance.

    Sure, the GM accepts the responsibility ultimately, but, I also think there were expectations to develop Kaep.
    Harbaugh/Roman did well to play to Kaep’s running abilities.
    I put no blame on anyone, simply asking whether friction occurred, regarding the pocket development aspect.
    I’m unable to rationalize how the relationship soured to the point it did.
    I simply wanted to see a good relationship, a common vision and, harmony between the 2.

    Baalke needs and Offensive minded HC IMO.
    What looked like a promising union early on, went into the crapper somehow.
    Where Jed comes into this is the question.

    In a perfect arrangement, Baalke builds a Defense, HC builds the Offense.
    Pretty safe to assume they couldn’t agree on how to do it.

    I also see the way Baalke seems to shop for the pieces.
    He’s looking 3yrs down the road, taking some risks on injured guys with which he can buy some rehab/development time?

    Once the meltdown occurred with Harbaugh, many of those pieces and the development curve came due.
    Losses of Patrick/Borland/AD just compounded the process.

  91. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t consider Baalke to be in the realm with guys like Ozzie Newsome or Ted Thompson but, he’s following the Parcells script, solid Defense/Running game, which typically isn’t a bad blueprint.

    Given the 3yr window he seems to operate in, I don’t expect immediate production, though it’s good to get it if you can.
    He washed out Moody for Skov, he may be sliding Eli Harold in for Lemonier, Hodges for Wilhoite, Bell for VMcD etc.
    It’s always a moving competition for a GM.
    He plays the ‘show me something and earn an extension’.
    Which is pretty much how any GM would see it IMO.
    That’s the purpose of the Rookie Cap, insurance against Draft busts.

    I keep a positive attitude but I’m not wearing rose-colored glasses either.
    He’s got to fix this mess.
    That’s what the GM is paid to do.

    Again, if Jed is playing the part of Dan Snyder, what’s the point of having a GM?

  92. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    IMO you give Baalke way too much credit.
    If Baalke was a good GM he would have a solid Plan B at QB in case Kap stumbles or fails.
    As far as I can see Baalke is adverse to drafting a QB.
    Other than Kap the only draft pick used on a QB was a 7th rd pick in Daniels.

  93. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    If that’s the way you gonna feel about it, might as well listen to some serious pickin’. Are you a fan of bluegrass?

    Best Uncle Pen yet at 3:59 among the serious pickin’.

  94. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I’m simply of the belief that the GM shouldn’t have to compete with the Owner.
    It’s more of a chain of command issue for me.

    Baalke chose Harbaugh, good move that .
    Why it blew up?
    I have no clue.
    Like many of you, I question Jed’s involvement.

    Gabbert as a back up isn’t terrible IMO. He’s a former top 10 pick at a reasonable cost.
    Like any team, the back up is a guy you hope you never need for more than a game or 2.
    He did select Thompson this year, however, I’m not expecting much from him for at least a year or 2.

    We’ll see how Baalke maneuvers his way through these troubled waters.
    I’ve read some reports that Vernon may be available for a trade, which suggests he’s gone after this season, if not sooner.

  95. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er I’m wide open on music, though I’m most attached to The Blues.
    Will give Uncle Pen a listen 😀

  96. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Correction –
    Baalke chose Harbaugh, good move that went sour.

  97. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Dylan Thompson was far off any draft list as a prospect.
    Even though he played the entire 4th preseason game he didn’t show much. There are probably multiple reasons he was undrafted.

    It says a lot to me that they are reluctant to insert Gabbert into a real game. Gabbert is no bargain at $2 mil if there is no confidence for him to play.

    As for Tomsula I think he was out of his mind to make a statement that he believed his players didn’t have to compete for their jobs which goes against every principle of merit and earning your spot. Unless he misspoke it sucks to be second string.

  98. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Ravens also just cut veteran Jason Babin and DB Rashaan Melvin. John Harbaugh is trying to send a message to his players.

    The Niners are catching a team in free fall beset by injuries and reeling from unexpected losses.

    Niners best chance for a win since first week.

  99. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Learn from the masters. NY LT Will Beatty was out with a concussion. Marshall Newhouse is competing with Jonathan Martin for fastest turnstile. The other OT Eric Flowers is a 1st Rd rookie.

    Very good guards. Eli got the ball out quick to avoid the edge rush. Stepping up in pocket always an option.

  100. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Money is not an issue with this team. After the offseason exodus, starters and depth projected for next year are young on rookie contracts.

    Next year VD, Brooks, and Bush are gone. Boldin. Bethea, and Staley likely for 2016. The big question is CK. The GM. HC/DC/OC. Hoping all 5 are gone by February.

  101. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If none of these Olinemen establish themselves this season it’ll be Staley and Kilgore and auditions for 3 more linemen so the turmoil just might continue.
    Let’s face it when you are a team that’s a contender you don’t overpay but that’s a thing of the past. The Niners are no longer a contender and have to develop a new mindset in order to sign the better free agents.
    This happened this past offseason when the team overpaid on Torrey Smith.

  102. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    2014 draft turning out good. So much promise for the three 3rd Rd guys. Borland retired. What happened with the highly touted Marcus Martin and under-drafted medical redshirt Brandon Thomas.

    Hope those two get it by the end of year. If AD and Aldon back next year, we are in good shape.

    CK makes the oline look worse than reality. In Giants game he still left open receivers, threw INT’s to DB’s with bad hands thankfully, and was responsible on two of his sacks holding the ball too long. Did Craig Dahl play in their backfield on Sunday?

  103. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, we have lots of draft picks, 10. And more if we can trade CK, VD, Brooks to desperate playoff contenders.

    The two good FA QB’s will be retained by NYG and SD. A smart GM will only pay for young quality FA’s. Will have lots of $$$ next year for Aldon and Oline if needed. First 3 rounds QB1, WR1, and pass TE.

    Mangini needs to stay conservative like Fangio did. The low round DB approach is a good one but stop stressing them.

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Not sure why you think Aldon is a lock to come back to the Niners. Even Anthony Davis is a big maybe. Seeing how this Oline has struggled this year I’m not so sure I want a player who’s on vacation while his team mates are busting their asses.

    On Aldon, if he stays out of trouble in Oakland I don’t see him coming back to where all his baggage is. Aldon has 1.5 sacks in 5 games. He’s on pace to get 7 sacks this year so he’s just not the same player. Let’s see if he turns it around in the remainder of the season.

  105. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


    Chris Pokorney does a detailed film review of the Browns week 5 game against the Ravens. Their QB had 457 yards and 2 td’s against Baltimore. We play the Browns later this year. Raven’s D has injuryitis.

  106. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Nov 3 is the NFL Trade deadline.
    Brooks and Vernon might get you a 6th rd pick at best

  107. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Goodell post-deflate gate may let Aldon skate on his stupid infraction. I do not like TB and his draft priorities. Bringing back Aldon prevents him spending high pick on OLB.

    Same with AD. With OLB and RT out of the way it saves those picks for QB1/WR1/pass TE.

  108. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, agreed. Neither will garner much so both most likely will finish this year. CK is the one that could net a 1st.

    The bad pass D of NYG and BALT should resuscitate his trade value. Finish season with Gabbert and FA. After Sunday we will be serious underdogs each week.

    Cutler and Stafford will run up their stats and Browns actually are decent on both sides of the ball.

  109. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Steve Smith Sr is back in practice. If he plays then Flacco has fun with Smith and Givens and CK needs to score big in all quarters. Forget establishing a run game. Otherwise game could be over early.

  110. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I think if somebody gave up a 3rd round pick for Kap it would be considered a fleecing.
    Too much film and water under the bridge for a 1st or 2nd round pick.
    Chip Kelly is the wild card but how long will he be in charge and with the Egos is a big question mark.

  111. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I do not think Kap will be traded during this season. That’s just wishful thinking depending how you feel about him.
    Tomsula has tied himself to Kap and says he will sink or swim with him.

  112. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Michigan versus Michigan State this Saturday. With all the eyeballs on this site watching, can some of you give your opinion of Connor Cook.

    Is he in an NFL type offense. Physical and mental ability?

  113. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Saw coaches film at NN on both sacks. WR open on first sack and RB open on 2nd, both for good yardage if completed.

  114. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I’m callin’ bs. John’s gonna stick it to Jed, Trent and Tomsula.

    42-20 (or whatever I predicted yesterday).

  115. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chris Ault gave his take on Kap’s struggles.
    Suprising response from Jimmy T considering this was Kap’s college coach
    “Jim Tomsula: “With all due respect to Coach Ault, I don’t know him, but we’re not really paying attention to other people’s evaluations.”

  116. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Not so good news from Chris Bierderman

    “Injured #49ers C Daniel Kilgore isn’t expecting a return Week 7 when he’s first eligible. It may take a few weeks.. ”

    Looks like Kilgore won’t be ready until Week 11 taking advantage of the bye.

  117. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    With that amount of time off and a leg injury, I doubt Kilgore will be much of an improvement over Martin this year.

  118. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    42-20 Ravens was your call Spit. RT has 23-17 Niners and I’m going with 27-24 Ravens at Levis.

  119. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Article did a breakdown of their defense last week:

    OLB : F
    ILB : F
    CB. : F
    S. : F

    Their DLine got a B.

  120. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    LT Joe Staley has put his house on the market. Is there a trade coming and Boone is our LT? Maybe Denver? Clady IR’D and rookie Ty Sembraijo injured? 2nd Rd pick, I would jump on that.

  121. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


    OT Ty Sambrailo(shoulder) and OT Ryan Harris(knee) are limited in practice. Leaving scrub Tyler Polumbus for LT.

    Will John Elway pull the trigger. A healthy Staley can give them 3 to 4 years maybe as starter. This is the ugly things done in a rebuild. Boone as good as Staley, DO IT.

  122. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Look to the Pats as well Bakkentom.
    They IR’d their LT Nate Solder with a torn biceps injury.

  123. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Know nothing about Patriots. Denver is loaded on D. Oline is very weak and exposing old man Manning to serious injury. They can afford giving up a 2nd.

  124. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Phil – Who won last week’s prediction competition? I know I won like three weeks in a row, but don’t know about last week. We need to have more information about who wins each week, and also keep track of overalls wins.

  125. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He’s calling them for the closest margin/spread Spit –

    phil fanNo Gravatar says:
    October 11, 2015 at 8:40 pm
    Yep Rob wins for 2nd game in a row and, I believe, his 3rd on the season. His call = Giants by 3. Good on you Rob

  126. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Say it ain’t so….Kaep doesn’t think mechanics are important?
    You’ve got to be kidding me?

  127. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil I’m going out on a limb this week.
    24-20 SF

  128. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks NJ, got your call. Believe me if anyone hits the exact score I’ll trumpet it like Bullits last year. The only one all year…So far NOOOOObody has so going with the spread since someone will win each week in the Unofficial Outsider Pigskin Prognostication Sweepstakes.

    Spit you won the biggest blown call prize 3 weeks in a row. Please.

  129. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Say it ain’t so….Kaep doesn’t think mechanics are important?

    Lord, love this human being but really he’s clueless…or just too honest. That’s fine when your team goes 12-4 but not now.


  130. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We’re a +2.5 Home Dog this week Phil.
    Which means we’re still unpredictable.
    We blow this one, we’d might as well tank for a Pick next year, since we’ll have a short turnaround for Seattle, on Thursday Night next week.

    Rams are facing some major injuries now as well.

  131. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Seriously Phil.
    The QB doesn’t think throwing like a rag doll won’t effect his accuracy or timing?
    Give me an eff’n break.
    What was the off-season trip to AZ all about?
    Part of the Pocket game is footwork and mechanics.
    He’s beyond clueless if he thinks otherwise.

  132. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He still doesn’t impress me as having a grip on route designs and where his targets are expected to come open either.
    He continues to look for open receivers instead of throwing to an open area.
    He did make a couple of nice throws to Boldin on Sunday Night here in NJ, which was good to see for a change.
    Not sure what to expect from him anymore.

  133. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    “Kaep doesn’t think mechanics are important?”

    This whole Kurt Warner/Giles Summer Camp was all a sham.
    It was just a PR stunt because Kap just said mechanics don’t matter.

    If you want to fix mechanics you go to Tom House.

    Kap doesn’t worry about his job security because he’s been assured he will be the QB no matter what. So to hell with mechanics, especially footwork. No need to nread defenses and progressions when you can freelance and wing it.

  134. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He’s killing me Bullit.
    Mike Vick 2.0 IMO.

    I wouldn’t think he has room to feel too comfortable with his current Contract either.
    Baalke has an out at anytime with that deal. (Thankfully)

  135. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    That’s probably Kap at 35 Vick 2.0 is accurate.
    Vick had early success but we saw his ceiling and DCs also figured him out.
    Two things about running QBs 1) slow or never developing as passers 2)Injuries start happening on their legs as they get older (Vick, Randall Cunningham and Slash Stewart)

  136. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    What has happened to Eric Reid this year? He’s never around the play anymore. Bethea is there but not Reid.

  137. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Look closely at the Eli Manning to Donnelly TD. He was not open. Donnelly is 6’6″ and Bowman 6’0″. Throw was high to exploit that height mismatch.

    Need to be accurate and confident, cool as ice. CK a no throw, INT, or incomplete. That is the difference between a 1st tier versus a mediocre Franchise QB.

  138. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I’m not quite sure what Mangini is asking him to do?
    Learning curve headaches is the best thing I can attribute it to.

    Bethea and Bowman were in the play against Donnell Sunday Nite.
    How they didn’t get that ball out of his hands I’ll never know.

    Mangini sat in Zone almost all night that I could see.
    Eli just took what was open, mostly underneath stuff.
    They’ve shown some blitz packages that reminded me of the LeBeau/Pittsburgh template in earlier games, but, not much gambling vs the NYG with pressure.
    Mostly 4 man rushes all night.
    Lynch was getting close many times, but, close don’t count.

  139. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I still think there’s too much indecision on Defense thus far.
    Guys aren’t communicating as they should be.

    I will say, from what I saw the other night, Acker/Ward/Tartt get around pretty well.

    One bad mistake was Acker biting inside on the OBJ TD.
    That play looked like a blown assignment to me too.
    I think Acker was expecting a S over the top that wasn’t there.

  140. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Phil – There has to be rules and a scoreboard for the prognostications. Trust me, it’ll be more funner.

  141. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Some acronyms while CK is here:

    KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid
    KICK = Kaep Is Coach Killer

    So keep kissing or else ass kicking.

  142. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    You’re probably right Spit. A scoreboard, cumulative w-l stats, cheerleaders, searchable database, that would work better. The heyday of the Pigskin Prognostication Contest was during the glory years of the Jimi H reign 2011-2013. Sadly like some wasted Balkey draft pick or a devastated coaching staff courtesy of a dumbshit owner those glory years were spent on Blog X. Pity, but there ya go, true history.

    Now of course we are in this splendid venue, more rational, largely sane, definitely happier, more like Levis than Candlestick but the team has been disintegrating for going on 2 seasons. Myself I’ve become the Vernon Davis or horrors, the Reggie Bush, of pigskin prognostication coordinators -limping like the team or like those two jokers towards the sidelines. I’ll admit we need some new blood, maybe a high draft pick or a trade at this critical position. But as you know this is tough to do during the season even if there were any takers for this coveted position. Someone with integrity, honesty, humor and lots of money. So we will see what becomes of this after the season. Losing a bunch of games cuts the willingness of folks to prognosticate too. Yeah Harbs and company took a lot of joy out of the joint when they fled.

    And until the Niners prove they can beat some team other than MIN I’m sticking with my 27-24 Ravens call.

  143. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Rumors that Tank is on some kind of sheet list. Last 3 games his % of plays from 46 to 25 to 13. Room needed for Kilgore and Jerome Simpson soon. Tank may be traded or released.

    Read months ago somewhere that his reaction time is slow. If true, TB should have screened for this. This is part of scouting.

  144. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Everything seems to come full circle.
    Last year the head cheerleaders in Pyongyang N.K. chapter were lobbying to hire Chris Ault to solve Kap’s problems touting him as a superior offensive football mind over Roman.

    Kap not being receptive to his old coaches comments and Jimmy T dismissing any input or opinions as outside noise.

    You couldn’t script this and the embarrassment and strong opinions that have proven to be off base have caused many to go silent and disappear.

  145. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Tank Carradine – Another Trent Baalke bust. But hey, NJ would rather have Baalke over Harbaugh. And so would a lot of other 49er homers.

  146. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Tank was one of hurt guys that would’ve been drafted much higher.
    Much like Brandon Thomas.
    I applaud Baalke when these picks pan out but lately they have caused the team to suffer.
    The decline in quality of the roster can’t hold up these guys who have unfulfilled promise.

  147. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Coaching staff also chose Tank over Okoye. Look for articles trying to explain this. Okoye on another team. Guido knows lineman or so they say.

  148. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Knowing the demonstrated stupidity of TB and his neanderthal Parcell’s biases DLine is the most important position and will be the 1st Rd pick in 2016.

    If the collective wisdom of the “football people” do not fix this putrid O with all the 2016 picks in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounds Jed is going to wonder where his fanbase went.

    2016 draft is the tipping point for me. For now would like to see a packaged trade of VD and Staley to Denver for a 2nd and 4th. They are desperate on O and playoff bound. How about a 7th for Okoye wherever he is.

  149. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    NN scouting the scouts has Connor Cook stuff on Michigan state versus rutgers. Will we suck enough to get him.

  150. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Connor Cook will be #1 in draft. NN “Very intelligent prospect with great vision and experience operating in a pro style system”.

    Michigan has a top D. See what he does on Saturday.

  151. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Sammy Watkins as frustrated and sounds like Torrey Smith. Tyrod Taylor a poor man’s CK. Same shit, leaves open receivers.

    High priced deep WR, whether from draft capital or FA financial capital. Both squandered.

  152. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck has left the building. Jed demoralizes

  153. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Report by Barrows that Petey and the Seahags wanted to claim Shareece Wright but Ravens had priority.

  154. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle also has Nick Moody. Both he and hodges are ex-safeties. I guess Moody was poor in positioning for tackles, taking poor angles.

    Maybe one of the beat reporters can get a contrast on those two. Moody was a 6th rd pick. Hodges a 4th, but we gave the Vikes a 6th + Easton.

  155. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Baltimore seems to have a history like us. Great D in 2012 but just got old. 2nd year high picks on D were 1st Rd C J Mosley ILB, 2nd Rd Timmy Jernigan DT, and a 3rd or 4th year player is Brandon Williams NT. At CB high picks were Jimmy Smith and Lardarius Webb.

    Both OLB’s are injured, Suggs is IR’d and Dumervil is playing with injuries.

  156. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    RTFirefly: 23-17 Niners

    Spitblood: 42-20 Ravens. Don’t you think John Harbaugh is going to do everything in his power to stick it to Jed York next Sunday? Don’t you think a win for the Ravens is a big, big win the for the Harbaugh family? John and his mother and father watched quietly last year as York and the NFL Network smeared Harbaugh. Don’t you think all of them want some retribution? Ravens’ players are gonna have John Harbaugh’s back 42-20, Ravens.

    Phil Fan: 27-24 Ravens at Levis.

    NJ49er: 24-20 Niners. Phil I’m going out on a limb this week.
    24-20 SF

  157. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s a quote from Joe Montana about Harbaugh….

    “Honestly, here’s a guy that’s been very successful for you quickly. He put a good team together. And now he’s gone. Now he’s out of there. Now they’re struggling. Players are leaving.”

    The interesting thing about that quote is that even Montana states that Harbaugh put the team together. And that’s what I’ve been saying all along. The year before, Singletary went 6-10.

    I’ve seen Rob on this blog state that Harbaugh was handed a great team. That isn’t the case and it’s part of what makes Harbaugh great – but that’s what Rob and the homers (great name for a band) are trying to deny.

    Harbaugh’s great at assessing what’s wrong, what’s needed, etc., etc., etc. Harbaugh knew he needed to pull Alex Smith out of the fire and rehab Smith, and that’s immediately what Harbaugh did. Then Harbaugh and Fangio assessed correctly that they needed a better secondary and a pass rush. They went out and bought Carlos Rogers, Donte Whitner and promoted a Singletary bench player in Brown to starting cb. In addition, the 49ers drafted Aldon Smith.

    You don’t really know what acts were Baalke or Harbaugh, but it’s clear to me now that Baalke couldn’t find his ass in the dark with both hands and Harbaugh’s winning again quickly, so most of those past 49er moves are what Montana was referring to when Montana recently said, “He put a good team together.” Notice Montana did not mention Baalke.

    Harbaugh not only did a fine job coaching, but he also knew how to make moves to acquire talent. When Harbaugh and Baalke clashed, Jed made what I believe is the mistake of Jed York’s life. He fired Jim Harbaugh.

  158. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Who is leaving now? The FA’s that know their future is bleak with this org.

    Boone is an LT. He cannot maximize his value as a guard. Even if trade of Staley happened now, he would be on a bad line that makes him more prone to injury.

    FA WR less inclined to come here because CK is bad and coaches have hit a wall with him. FA olinemen same deal.

    VD and Brooks will be allowed to walk. I assume Bowman got an extension. If not then he may want to go elsewhere.

  159. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

  160. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Staley is under contract until 2018 and is the Niners best lineman.
    Boone can walk after this season and likely will unless he get’s a huge deal around $7 mil a year. He has in his contract that The Niners can’t franchise him.

    Trading Staley would be extremely stupid on Baalke’s part. That would give Boone too much leverage. Boone is a good OG but not the elite OT type his salary demands dictate.

    Perhaps I’m wrong but I think Staley selling his house means he’s upgrading in this area and too much is being read into his leaving as the cause.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17