Getting Real

After two days of air guitar practices, the 49er players put on the pads Sunday and started banging on each other for real. Ah, it may not be as sweet as the smell of napalm in the morning, but for stateside couch potatoes it’s the sound of music.

Still, practice is just practice. A private enterprise for 49er coaches and players only. We fans will have to wait another 11 days until Friday, August 10th to finally see some football.

Maybe even Michael Crabtree will join the party. He has yet to be injured during the regular season and yet to be healthy in training camp or preseason. Last year at Camp Alex, he was injured on the first day of practice. And this year at Camp Harbaugh, he was also injured on the first day of practice. It’s possible he’s shooting for the David Baas Award.

In previous years, Crabtree’s starting spot was always waiting for him whenever he showed up, but this year that may not be so. Mario Manningham and even Kyle Williams or AJ Jenkins could get a promotion if he lingers too long in the owie room, leaving Crabtree down the depth chart and heading toward Braylon Edwards territory.

Williams has gotten a lot of love this offseason. Jed York even tweeted he hoped Kyle was the breakout player of the year. You have to wonder if this is just York’s way of polishing his apple as a good guy owner, or whether he’s sincere. He’s not channeling Uncle Eddie on this one, though. Eddie would have cut Williams before he even got to the locker room after the NFC Championship game loss. Then Eddie would buy Kyle’s mom a house and put Kyle through dental school. Perhaps Jed was taught the Yorkian value of counting to ten before thinking out loud.

AJ Jenkins got the Harbaugh overkill love smooch Sunday, including a blast at media minions who have bagged on the rookie first rounder for his early struggles. Big Jim assured the “clueless” scribes AJ will be an outstanding player. I haven’t noticed the Bay Area writers beating on the kid all that much, except for Grant Cohn of the Press Demo, who’s more of a bad joke than a beat writer. Maybe Harbaugh was directing his ire at Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk, who has made mocking the Niners, and especially their coach, a favored enterprise this offseason.

Justin Smith introduced the padded practices to a couple of young 49er O-line guys by heaving them into the backfield like they were boogers from a flicked finger. Do we love this guy or what? Justin is every father’s dream of the uncle you introduce to the male hormone machine that arrives to take your daughter out on a date.

One of the young, faceless UDFAs got tossed out of practice for starting a fight. This will probably be his main contribution to training camp — serving as a warning to all the other players that Harbaugh forbids fighting. The kid did not pick a fight with Justin, so at least he has some sanity going for him.

Another padded practice is scheduled for today. Who will be Justinized today?

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  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    There is a WR named Palmer getting a lot of attention so far.

  2. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Greg Roman said the offense will take advantage of players strengths and any changes will be due to that. He made a point of pointing out we have some speed this year. Hmmmm!
     
    I forget exactly how he said it but that was the gist of it.

  3. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, Nathan Palmer. I don’t get too excited about these camp wonders until they play in a game, though.

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Nathan Palmer’s nickname is Na-Palm.
    Yesterday Maiocco reported that Gore, Moss and V Davis stayed on the field after practice to work with the Jugs machine catching passes. You know that by the end of thew week there should be a lot of younger players putting in the OT.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Braylon Edwards is said to be tring out for the Fins.
    Per Maiocco “Also, the 49ers are building a 12,000-square foot training facility at $1.7 million, which will serve as an outdoor weight room alongside the practice fields. The new workout room is expected to be completed in September.”
    A far cry from the penny pinching
    Yorks that took the team over from
    Eddie. In fairness Eddie’s free spending was unsustainable as the team was bleeding money to the tune of being $80 mil in the hole
    as a accuminalation of the previous year’s. The $80 mil had nothing to do with salary cap but extravagance like travelling in 747’s which cost $50k more per
    flight.

  6. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Write offs are grand, ain’t they?

  7. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    So are pianos!

  8. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Grant Cohn is a putz. Of the beat writers I still think Barrows is the most objective and certainly has the best sense of humor — not an unimportant attribute in my world.
     
    Crabtree better heal fast. This up-to-now complete lack of PS games is growing tiresome. I also think Kyle Williams is not only going to make the team but is going to contribute even more this year.
     
    Jenkins? Not sure what JH’s plan is with this stuff and the media. I’m surprised he didn’t say AJ would be in the HOF someday. I love me some Harbaugh, but I do kind of roll mu eyes when he goes off in front of the media.

  9. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, different coaches have different ways of doing it, but the point is to foster an ‘us vs them’ mentality. Walsh was certainly a little more cordial with the press, but he used their clippings in the meetings to drive that point home.
    .
    Whether from the beat writers saying shit like ‘AJ’s a bust’ to national writers saying the Niners are a flash in the pan, it was fodder to get the team to believe in each other, not listen to the media.

  10. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    F#$@% Crabs. He’s going to get buried on the depth chart. He’s pretty much a bust. Well, maybe not a bust, but certainly he’s playing worse than a 5th rounder.

  11. robNo Gravatar says:

    crabs will be our leading WR this year ! i’m thinking he has a breakout year !

  12. robNo Gravatar says:

    WR depth chart

    cabs #1
    manningham #2
    moss #3
    williams #4
    jenkins #5

  13. robNo Gravatar says:

    imho

    all five will see a lot of action !

  14. robNo Gravatar says:

    i think alex smith will come up big too !!!

  15. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Crabs could go to the back row again, put on his hoodie, and stop paying attention, just like last year. That should do wonders for our 3rd down percentage.

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Fair warning to all the Niner players in training camp. If you get hurt you will incur the wrath of Chuck.
    Relax there are six long weeks before they play for real.
    Chuck FYI Nobody get’s buried on the depth chart in week one.
    On Crabtree being a bust, I beg to differ.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Is this a Crabtree is a bust convention?
    Chill out it’s the 3rd day of TC.

  18. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Why do you differ? He’s never practiced and this is his 4th camp.

  19. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m rooting for Crabs but he is hurt every TC. Let us see if he finally plays in a pre-season game. Plus, the hoodie report did not help my image of our WRs, which was already not good.

  20. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    He threw Alex under ther bus last offseason. He can’t read defenses to save his life, and he can’t run a slant nor improvise on a busted play.

  21. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    TGhen we get the reports that he clowns around in the back of the meeting room. He’s a little too high on himself. He needs to work at his job, not Alan Iverson it.

  22. robNo Gravatar says:

    CHUCK

    remember , crabs talent made him likely a top five pick when he came out ! were you one of the few who thought he might be there when we picked at 10 that year ?

    90 percent of “experts”
    and bloggers knew for sure he’d be gone by the time we picked !

    were you not one of the vast majority of niners who were not elated to get crabs with our 10th pick ?

    i know i was !

    in short … crabs foot has cost him dearly !

    niner coaching has cost him far worse ! (think nolan and his legacy !)

    can you really blame him ???

  23. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Trade ‘Feets’ to the highest bidder.
    He doesn’t want to work and, he doesn’t want to be here IMO.
     
    Take whatever you can get,let guys like Kyle keep a spot on the roster that they genuinely have worked hard to keep.
    Whether Crabtree sticks and has an outstanding Season or not, I can’t see him embellishing this Team once he hits FA.
    Make a deal for him now or, wait for a Comp pick when he leaves.

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Crabtree does not become a FA until 2015 (3 more years).
    We’ve had this discussion and I know how you guys feel. I’ll just let things play out.
    I wouldn’t want NJ to repeat his “Nofear was right about you comment to me” IMHO that was very chickenpoop when you said it.

  25. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Copy that remark and repost it Bullit, I don’t think I made it.
    I appreciate varying opinions here, not my place to criticize anyones’ view of things.

  26. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As for Crabtree, my opinion of him hasn’t changed 1 bit.
    He plays for my Team, I want him to succeed.
    I just don’t believe he’s a ‘bust it to win’ kinda guy.

  27. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    I am sorry and I was mistaken to attribute the remark to you as I did look it up.
    Happened on May 1 and it was Grumpy who said the following
    “As for whether I’m biased, whatever, Bullit. You fight with everyone on all the blogs, but I don’t really care. NoFear has you pegged. You’re just some schmuck on the interwebz.”
    I think at the time Berger, Chuck
    Grumpy and yourself were whipping on Crabtree so I treated your collective voices as one because you were saying the same thing.
    Again I accused you in error.

  28. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Sounds like Grumpy was grumpy.

  29. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No worries Bullit, I don’t make it a practice to put people down for having an opinion.
    It’s what we do here.
    Always an option in life to agree to disagree, no matter the topic, without making it into a personal affront.
    No offense taken.

  30. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Crabtree is another matter entirely.
    I’d like to see the attitude and productivity side of his Texas Tech talents displayed for us in SF.
    I realize he’s a laid back quiet kid but, I can’t see a fire to win and the tireless efforts to be the best.
    With him, we can certainly agree to disagree

  31. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m always Grumpy. And grumpy.
     
    I blame stupid people. They annoy me.

  32. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Crabtree gets me going like that too Grumpy.
    It happens.

  33. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Perhaps Moss and Manningham will get him to understand what winning attitude and preparation are all about?
    No doubt Baalke has a plan in mind for this Offense.
    Looking forward to seeing how it all comes together.

  34. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    FYI on Kyle Williams
    2 seasons 21 receptions 3 TDs
    Crabtree 3 seasons 175 receptions
    12 TDs
    V Davis First 3 seasons 103 receptions 9 TDs
    I recall the similar criticism on Vernon Davis and what a bust he was and we should trade him for whatever we could get.
    VD blossomed in year 4 when he was finally utilized correctly.
    We would have been screwed last year and not have achieved the NFC Championship Game without V Davis or Crabtree.
    As for Kyle Williams, he still has much to prove. As a starting receiver he could’ve shined in the NFC Championship because he started and had single coverage all game. Instead he was an epic failure getting shut out.
    Remember 2006 3rd rd pick Brandon Williams? He never caught a pass as a 49er was a mediocre return specialist who they cut midseason
    in year 2. kW is following a similar path.

  35. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Rob. Don’t know if you heard or not, but Dr. Who lost another companion last week. Mary Tamm (Romana) passed away last Thursday at 62. No need telling you that those Tom Baker days were the best. Time Lady Romana was a big part of that. I always thought she was pretty. She reminded me of my first first girlfriend, Kelly.
    http://danielkukwa.com/dr_who_tom_baker_and_mary_tamm.jpg

  36. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    And I concur with you assessment of the 49ers depth chart. Well, at least the first one anyway…Crabtree, a.k.a. Maxi Pad, for being a training camp pussy as I like to call him is #1 PERIOD End of sentence. That’s a joke, son! 😛

  37. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    If you don’t believe me, allow my friend, Foghorn to tell you…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTwnwbG9YLE

  38. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit your points are valid.
    I’d like to see Crabtree blossom too, the sooner the better.
    My knock on him is his work ethic and attitude.
    Maybe Moss bringing him to the front row gets his head screwed on straight this year?
    Time will tell.
    Just don’t get his aversion to Camp and PS games?

  39. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    IMO this is the reason he vanished in the biggest game of the year last Season.
    He and Alex have had no chemistry together, which Camp and PS games afford each of them.
    Perhaps Harbaugh can get that cycle broken and improved in the next month.

  40. robNo Gravatar says:

    DELMARDENNIS !

    I like your ASSessment of our WR’s ! the ASS is for crabtree if he continues to fukk up !

    and no need to say more about MARY TAMM !

  41. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Looking at the stats of the NFC Championship Game both Crabtree and V Davis were thrown to only 5 times each in the game. VD caught 3 passes and made the most out of them gaining 112 yds and 2 TDs.
    Eli Manning threw 58 passes in that game which was 32 more passes than Alex Smith attempted.
    The difference in total yards was
    NY by 24 yards.
    The Gnat defensive gameplan was to
    take away V Davis and Crabtree.
    Gore and Hunter averaged over 5 yds per rushing attempt.
    You can talk about A Smith being 1-13 on 3rd downs or Crabtree only ctaching 1 ball. For me the game was lost in the turnover battle. Niners dropped 2 TOs (painfully we won’t get specific)
    and botched 2 potential TOs which
    our defender had in their hands.
    IMO that was the difference.
    Another interesting fact is that Victor Cruz caught 10 passes and seemed to be always open. His last catch was at the 8:52 mark in the 3rd quarter. He was shut out for the rest of the game including overtime.
    The Gnats actually had 2 more punts than the Niners (12 to 10) which is the end result of failed 3rd down attempts. Both defenses played well but some seem to always nitpick at the offense.

  42. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Williams *was* an epic failure in the Giant game, but he did get open once deep – but Alex could not get the ball to him. Unfortunately, the only wideout Alex showed *any* trace of chemistry with was Josh Morgan. Losing him in mid-season hurt our already sputtering passing game. Hopefully by the beginning of this year Alex and the new WRs will have their timing down.

  43. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- Your 11:29 post from last night has me feeling better already. I’m ready for the day!

  44. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy

    Chemistry with Josh Morgan from Alex Smith in 2011?
    15 catches 1 TD in 5 games last year?
    What exactly are you seeing that I’m not?
    Maybe I am stupid so please enlighten me.

  45. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    For all the Crabtree critics out there. Crabtree will not be practicing today.
    But neither will any of the Niners as it is an off day.
    Relax, you can bitch and whine tomorrow.

  46. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- So technically, this is the 4th day in a row that Crabtree is not practicing? LOL

  47. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Crabs is a solid #2 receiver who either has the worst injury luck of our receivers, but only at TC and pre-season or he feels he is above the need for practise since his natural skill level is clearly stunning.

    For me Crabs has skills but he needs an attitude adjustment bad. He dogs on Alex but does nothing much to enhance his rapport with him.

    It will be a pleasant surprise if Moss actually shows up well in games over the course of the whole season, something I have misgivings about.

    Manningham is the next best option to shine but up till this point in his career he is a #2#3 level WR.

    So who will step up to be the #1 receiver we have lacked since Owens?

    Lots has been written about the upgrades we made at WR, but at the moment we still have no #1. Moss is unproven in his bid to beat father time, Manningham has never shown ability above a #2, Crabs was drafted as a #1 but has not lived up to his draft status, Williams has shown ability but has not had enough opportunities in games to see what he has really got, Ginn is a #3 at best and nobody expects AJ to be on the field very much this season.

    Certainly we have bigger household names this year but better?
    Morgan/Manningham looks like a wash to me, Crabs TBD, Williams TBD, Ginn and Jenkins role players so that leaves all the hopes for improvement on Moss, a notoriously unreliable character who plays when he feels like it at least up until now, jogging down field on plays not intended for him anyone?

    Running game we have clearly improved, TE needs better production from everyone not named VD.

    WR is still a question mark in my mind.

    Roll on pre-season to at least get a glimpse of reality.

  48. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I think we have upgraded WR mid level talent by volume, meaning we have more #2 level WR’s than last year, I’m waiting for one of them to seperate themselves from the pack as our new #1 WR.

    Who do you have your money on?

  49. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, 10.30pm post, right on brotha…

  50. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    DelMar, no love for Jon Pertwee???

  51. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, that set-up is just too easy. The funny thing is, in those 5 games that are so underwhelming for Morgan, Crabs caught 20 for 132. A whopping 6.6 yards per catch. More underwhelming. THAT’S what yer missing.
    .
    15 – 220 seems a little better to me. That’s 14.6 yards per catch.

    Christ, watch the games. Morgan and Smith had much more chemistry that Crabs and Smith. If Crabs catches passes, they are 80% comeback routes. They rarely hook up on deep routes, seam routes, and only occasionally over the middle. In other words, catch and fall down routes. Nothing game-breaking. Their numbers in 2010 were the same. Morgan had the higher yards per catch. He was better at getting open on deeper routes.
    .
    They have had problems getting in synch. Why? Maybe because he hasn’t played a down of preseason football. He’s missed EVERY practice. The veiled observation that he’s been clowning in ghe back of the classroom.
    .
    Look, I don’t want or hope for the guy to fail, but I’m waiting to see what all the hoopla he generates is all about. Get through a preseason, get in synch, and make plays. Morgan was doing it with no hyperbole or bullshit.

  52. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Rob, Crabs pre-draft hype has nothing to do with his proven production over 3 years. Last year Crabs had OK numbers for a #2 receiver, but the lack of options at WR play a part in that too as does the run heavy scheme and lack of trust in Alex to open things up.

    There is not much doubt that Crabs has not lived up to a #10 pick. Crabs chose to blame Alex last year and I think that’s been valid up to a point. But I don’t think he has the right to point a finger at Alex when he has done very little to get in sync with him on the field.

    Year 4 coming up and another TC lower leg/foot injury seems suspicious to say the least.

  53. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    UNC a, we are in sync on the Crabs thing and we didn’t even practise together!

  54. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    What you seem to be missing is Crabtree was coming off his foot surgery and missed the first game.
    Josh Morgan had every oppurtunity to shine and didn’t.
    He seems to be the second easiest
    target to dog here but until somebody actually outplays him and relegates him to the bench.
    All about perception. Nobody mentioned his name as being in back of the classroom. The comment was the young receivers.
    and he’s not the only young receiver on the team but he seems to be a lightning rod for some of you and favored whipping boy..
    Crabtree has never gotten in trouble off the field yet some here give Aldon Smith a pass because he’s young even though
    he has 2 incidents in 6 months.
    The words of all the Crabtree detractors are the same. You don’t want to see him fail but the minute he strains a muscle there is a hue and cry to trade the “bust”.
    If I were a player today I would just keep my mouth shut and be very unfriendly to the media. They take every little thing a player says and blow it up.
    Crabtree didn’t throw Alex Smith under the bus. He just said he was disappointed he was only targeted 5 times and wished for more oppotunities to contribute.
    Throwing a guy under the bus is TO calling Garcia “gay” and questioning his manhood.
    Is Crabtree a distraction? Only if you make him one.

  55. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Josh Morgan was NOT the featured WR. Crabs was his whole time here. You are deflecting everything I say. I don’t give a rat f%$# what the media thinks of the guy. Harbaugh made the statement about the young WRs in the back of the room clowning, not the media. If you don’t think thaat Crabs is part of that group, well, I have some beachfront property near Bergs’ house to sell you.

  56. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    12th man

    It happens to be a calf strain on the opposite leg of the his bad foot.
    I think it is awfully hard to BS an injury in the NFL these days.
    You guys are sounding like Mike Nolan questioning Alex Smith’s seperated shoulder.
    All I know is Crabtree is the best WR the Niners have had since TO left. Brandon Lloyd, Antonio Bryant, Bryan Johnson, Isaac Bruce,Jason Hill, Josh Morgan
    Braylon Edwards.
    I know you yearn for the old days when our receivers were Darrel Jackson, Arnaz Battle, Bryan Gilmore and Taylor Jacobs.

  57. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Joe Looney passed a physical and has been activated from the PUP list.

  58. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Your guy Nate got traded as part of the deal for Hunter Pence

  59. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s what I’m talking about (6/7/11):
    ……….
    Crabtree joined 49ers informal workouts for the first time Monday, when offensive players began a four-day “minicamp” at San Jose State. He has missed other informal workouts despite being in the Bay Area.
    .
    When asked by reporters if he thought catching passes from Smith was important to building chemistry, Crabtree responded: “Who’s the quarterback?”
    .
    When told Smith was the likely starter, Crabtree said: “He’s the quarterback? I’m just asking.”

    Crabtree told reporters that whoever starts at quarterback for the 49ers would get his support, but he’s still not sure who that player will be.

    “I wish I could tell you that,” he told reporters. “I know what you’re all scratching at. I wish I could tell you who is going to be the quarterback. I don’t know. I don’t know. Whoever the quarterback is, I’m 100 percent down with it and I’m ready to go. That’s it.”
    …….
    A real team player there. He either doesn’t like Smith, or had his head up his ass.

  60. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    The best WR since TO left? That’s like being the hottest woman at the old-folks home. HE held out becuase HE thought he was worth more. HE’S the one clowning in the meeetings. HE’S the one who’s missed every practice and rep in 3+ years. He’s played like a 3rd rounder.
    .
    Isaac Bruce at age 36 had a better year in 2008 than Crabs’ best year last year. Bad example.

  61. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Lets walk this back. We are in week one of training camp.
    Crabtree has strained a calf muscle and has missed 3 practices.
    Last time I looked injuries are part of the game.
    Yet Crabtree’s detractors come out in force suggesting he’s a bust. asking to trade him and other silly things.
    Also some of you can’t put things said in the past and let it slide.
    He starined a muscle so let’s dig up shit and paint him as not a team guy.
    Like I said let this play out.
    Making this a big deal when it shouldn’t,
    Chuck if you don’t care what the media thinks why do you keep quoting their negative stories?
    That’s Grant Cohn’s article and we all know what a shit disturber he is like his old man.

  62. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Show me where it says that Crabtree was “clowning” around in meetings? Are we embellishing?

  63. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    There are plenty of “hot” women in old folks homes. Sorry that you can’t see it. They just happen to be old. It happens to everyone. The alternative? You can die before you get old.

  64. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    It was Mike Sando, ESPN. I use that article because those are HIS WORDS, Bullit. How can you apint that commentary as being anything but Crabs dissing Smith?
    .
    So, you think Crabs and Smith are doing fine? They are in synch and they have no problems? Good for you. Crabs wants out. That’s how I read this. If the team is so sold on Crabs, why did they sign 2 guys and draft another?

  65. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    No Bullit. Crabs has missed EVERY practice and preseason game for his now 4th opportunity. That’s the issue. The issue is synhronicity.Tell me you think they are in synch.
    .
    Wow, you troll the old folks home for action? You go, son . . .

  66. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    I’ll share something personal here.
    My mom was in an elderly care facility for the last 7 years of her life. She made it to 100 but not to 101. Visiting her quite often there are a lot of beautiful people there and the staff who gave her everyday care to the end were special.
    Angie Dickinson is 82 years old. Sophia Loren 78, Raquel Welch 72.
    They are famous but like I said there are a lot of beautiful people in care faciliries because they can’t take care of themselves and need to be watched.
    Take nothing in life for granted
    because one day we might all be there.

  67. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Sando uses info he garners from beat writers and his info is usually second hand. Here is Grant Cohn’s article

    http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2011/06/inside-the-49ers/crabtree-smith-still-not-connecting/

    Notice Josh Morgan;s comment at the end

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I hope we all make it into our 90’s, are able to type and still think and have access to a computer and we are still screaming at each other and agreeing to disagree.

  69. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Break out the kleenex. Crank up the violins. Yeah getting old sucks. If I get near that point of being a burden, I’m taking care of it myself. End of story.
    .
    Answer the question. Do you think Crabs and Smith are fine and dandy at this point in their time together? Are they in synch? If this injury lasts a while, will that cause any additional problems? Do you think (hmm, say like Spencer last year) that he may get knocked down the depth chart if he doesn’t practice with the 1st team offense for another few weeks?

  70. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Not sure which of you are old enough to remember this. I went to a lot of games at Kezar as a Christopher Milk Jr 49er.
    I wish I had kept some milk cartons from 1965. (what was I thinking?)
    http://blog.49ers.com/2012/07/31/49ers-seek-christopher-milk-artifacts/

  71. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Crabtree’s own words indict him as being a selfish player in that article. He’s working with college QBs, he’s working with Carr, but he refused to work with Alex. That’s on him. He had the opportunity to go to the earlier sessions. HE chose to skip them and work with other QBs.
    .
    Whatever. I’ll wiat to see if he ever practices with Alex before praising him to high heaven. Like I said 2 months ago, I’m glad they have better options than Crabs. Manningham in 2 weeks will be ahead of Crabs.

  72. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    It has to work because the other WRs have been a revolving door.
    It’s been the TEs and Crabtree.
    I just read that Jason Babin strained a similar muscle in his calf and Philly is erring on the side of caution. They are giving him 2 weeks off because they want him ready for the regular season and could care less about preseason.
    Given the scrutiny he’s under Crabtree is in no position to fake an injury unless you think Harbaugh and Baalke are fools and you’ve joined the darkside with V.

  73. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not saying he’s faking anything. I’m saying he’s not giving maximum effort. I don;t think he ever has.
    .
    Do you really think he hasn’t been hurt by missing all these off season workouts?

  74. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Strained muscles can haunt. I’d rather they be cautious and have Crabtree sit a couple of extra days than bring him back too soon. Having said that, his injuries are very frustrating for us fans who want to see more from a #10 overall pick.

  75. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Note in that article about 2010:
     
    “Crabtree’s comments only fueled the perception that the third-year wide receiver and Smith still aren’t quite on the same page after Smith had a 55.4 passer rating when targeting Crabtree last year. Smith’s rating when targeting Morgan: 103.6.”
     
    I’m guessing Alex’s QBR when targeting Crabs was somewhat better last year than in 2011, but I doubt it was as good as his rating targeting Morgan in 2010 (Morgan’s last full year).

    As I said earlier, Smith and Morgan connected better and showed more chemistry than Smith and the Crabby One.

  76. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- Nate For Pence. Why? Pence is hitting .272 with .238 with RISP. Not a very good fielder and costs millions. Is also arbitration eligible, meaning probably about 14 mil next year. Nate is a career .270 hitter and a great defender with a strong accurate arm. He costs less, is under our control for longer and we would still have a top catching prospect if we don’t make the trade. I do not like the trade but I am happy for Nate. He deserves better than he was treated here.

  77. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I doubt Crabs is outright dogging it, BTW. I think he is actually hurt. But I can very easily believe his conditioning is a little short of where it needs to be, his work ethic in TC is a little soft, he is a little more injury-prone early in the season than he should be and as a result, his chemistry with Alex is not what it could be.
     
    Personally, I think he’ll bolt for DeionLand to be a Cowgurl when his contract is up. I just don’t sense the commitment and ‘buy-in’ to Harbaugh and company that most of the rest of the team seems to have. I hope AJ Jenkins is the real deal, because in a few years we’re going to need him.

  78. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    As hardnosed as Harbaugh is if he thinks you’re dogging it you’ll be pulling splinters out of your britches. Game film tells the truth.
    The root of all this is the fact you all think Crabtree is a diva. Mangini planted this into your brains and you can’t let it go.
    Until you get that out of your head this discussion is beyond reason.
    My opinion is he is neither dogging it and has a minoe injury. He;ll lket it rest and get back on the field. What happened in the past shouldn’t dictate he do something really stupid and hurt himself long term
    unless you think he’s faking it
    and paying the doctors to fix the MRI.

  79. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Sounds like the Phils wanted the catcher that was thrown in and wanted to dump Pence’s salary.
    Phil’s traded Victorino to the Dodgers. Today they dumped 2/3 of their outfield.

  80. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Getting Nate was a big factor for them. They needed an MLB ready OF. I think Nate is better than Pence. Now that he will get some regular playing time we’ll all get to see. I think the Giants got fleeced on this deal.

  81. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Really Bergs? You stat guys are pretty cute. Pence is a 3 time All Star. Nate is a 4th OFer.
    .
    The Phillies wanted gary Brown and Joe Panik. What they got was entirely different.

  82. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- unca’s comment should tell you why the fans here did not deserve Nate.

  83. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t tell me what I’m thinking Bullit. That’s really childish. I’m basing my feeling on Crabs on what I’ve seen on the field and heard coming out of his mouth.
    .
    You still haven’t answered my question. Do you think Crabs development as a WR has not been affected by his missing every training camp practice or preseason game? You think he doesn’t want out?
    .
    Bergs, Nate couldn’t even put Rowand on the bench. Well, it took 3 months . . .

  84. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy

    103.6 is impressive. Given that info you would think Morgan woukd be the “go to” guy. I don’t buy this #1 and #2 receiver crap.
    If you start you’re an equal. If you constantly are open than you are the obvious target and the QB should pull the trigger.
    44 catches and 2 TDs tells me that 103.6 doesn’t tell the whole story

  85. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Poor little Bergs. His feewings got huwt. Nate had a nice run coming of the bench the last couple years. When he played, he steadily got worse. This is called watching the games. Try it some time. Get your nose out of the stat sheet.
    .
    If the Phillies didn’t trade away 2/3 of their OF, Nate wouldn’t be starting. Duh . . .

  86. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Of course working with your QB in training camp is a benefit. That’s a no brainer.
    With the exception of his rookie season the last two TCs have not been by choice but dictated by injury.
    If anything they should be targeting preseason games #2 & #3
    to make an impact chemistry wise.
    Sarters will play at least one half. Game #1 in preseason is usually one series for the starters and 2 if it’s 3 and out.

  87. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    It would be my worst nightmare to witness what is going on inside your noggin.
    I’m hpingh for a ring for every finger before I leave this earth.
    Times a wasting as they have to win 4 more.

  88. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Then open your eyes, Bullit. That might clue you in to reality. Morgan got open deep more often. He had a higher completion average. Most of Crabs catches are comeback routes.
    .
    And Bergs, those Phillie fans are notoriously forgiving, aren’t they? Boo hoo. We don;t deservee you, Nate!!! Who wants the 3x all star? The Giants got fleeced? Funny stuff.

  89. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    1997 Niners finished 13-3 with Steve Young as the QB
    Young threw for 19 TDs and had 6 Ints
    All this is similar to last season
    down to the disappointing loss in the NFC Championship except they lost to the Packers.
    Young had these Alex Smith like numbers with Rice and Owens at WR and Brent Jones at TE as well as Hearst at RB.

  90. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    No they need 5 more, Bullit. And in what capacity did you earn the other 5? You didn’t do anything but be a fan. Cute. Yeah, I’m scary, Bullit. Criminy. What is this? Pre-school? Unbridled love for everyone? You might as well worshiup the unis. I have legitimate concerns about Crabs, but I’m supposed to say, golly, gee, I sure hope he doesn’t miss practice! Again. Screw that.
    .
    In my opinion, he’s not doing all he can to be a great WR. You have a problem with that? Great. Blow it out your ass. Go bask in the glory that is Crabs but don’t f^%$ pretend to know what I’m thinking or be scared of my thought process. Gawwwd. It’s like dealing with a 6 year old.

  91. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Open my eyes? It’s my Constitutional right to have eyes wide shut if I choose to.
    According to you Baalke and Harbaugh blew it. They let Alex Smith’s favorite target leave.
    Well at least statistically on paper.
    See it doesn’t add up. If there is a 2 to 1 possibility that Morgan will catch a much deeper pass thrown to him than Crabtree then why wouldn’t you keep throwing to Morgan?
    Was it really that simple?

  92. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Steve young’s QB rating 1997 season a league leading 104.7

    Funny how stats can be misleading when cherry picked to prove a point one way or another.

    Bullit, #1 #2 #3 is far from crap when describing players. It is based on the teams most productive and valuable players. Its what we are missing here, a true #1, Crabtree being our best option last year does not make him a great player.

    He is a #2 on all of the above average teams in the NFL

    Crabs has better skills than Morgan but Morgan out worked him.

    Like it or not, Crabs has simply not performed in TC or preseason and this is his 4th. That’s a lot of coincidence to swallow. Maybe he should take his off season conditioning program more seriously, who knows, but when Vernon Davis explodes on him for dogging practise I figure there’s a grain of truth to it.

  93. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    What is childish is to call somebody out for being childish and then telling them to blow it out of their arse.

  94. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Note to self: practice is spelled with 2 C’s

  95. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yes, ignorance is a constitutional right, Bullit. Congrats. You win. Alex couldn’t throw to Morgan because he was hurt. Duh. Morgan’s contract was up. They could have re-signed him, but there were a LOT of WRs out there, and Morgan got a deal that was ludicrous. But that’s on Dan (what me worry?) Snyder. THAT’S your case? Weak. The Skins paid more for Morgan than the Niners did for Manningham. A smart move in my book.
    .
    The team thought so highly of Crabs that they went out and signed 2 free agents and drafted a WR in the 1st round. Why is that?
    .
    Put it this way. If Crabs’ deal was up after last year, do you think he would have pushed his agent to re-sign here? Not on your life. He wants to be in Dallas with his fellow punks Dez Bryant and Deion Sanders.

  96. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    If we were sitting in a bar, and you said to me, “I’m scared of your thought process.” I’d tell you to blow it out your ass.
    .
    Presuming to know what I think is and THEN being scared of it is laughable and juvenile.
    .
    I guarandamntee youm the team feels closer to my way of thining than yours.
    .
    I’m done. Move along.

  97. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Drink more and blog along with chuck! I hope you are drinking unca because if you are not you are sure fooling us. I’ll catch up with you this week-end, maybe.

  98. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- I only found two all-star appearances by Pence. They were both on the Astros. By rule each team has to send a player to the game. The Astros usually send one these days. Am I supposed to be impressed when you say he was an all-star for the Astros?

  99. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I know how numbers scare you, Bergs but look at the numbers below:

    .271 17 59

    .247 5 15

    Which would you rather have playing in RF?

  100. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    . . . chirp chirp chirp . . .

  101. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Am I supposed to be impressed with a 28 year old’s unrealized potential?
    .
    Pence’s worst year is light years ahead of anything Nate has done.

  102. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    How about these scary numbers? Oh! OH! What am I thinking Bullit? Sorry. Didn’t mean to frighten you.
    .
    131 HRs 471 RBIs .290 avg
    23 HRs 119 RBIs .270 avg
    .
    Both these players came into the league in 2007. Which one would you want on your team?
    .
    Tell ya one thing. This was a fun day of training. Hyuk. You guys need to loosen your belts a notch or 3 . . .

  103. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Bullit, what am I thinking now?
    .
    Why don’t you go after Grumpy, Bergs, NJ, or 12th for feeling the way they do about Crabtree?

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Sorry I don’t interact well to drunken stupidity.
    There’s a lot to be said when you need to get shitfaced around Noon but I won’t judge you.
    Have a pleasant evening.

  105. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, went by your blog, it says 6 followers, is that contributors?

  106. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    He was on a roll today huh Bullit.

  107. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Turns out the Seahags signed Braylon Edwards today.

  108. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I really think Braylon is done.
     
    If he could not start in our sorry-ass passing game last year…. well. Basically, he was released and we started Ted “Stevie Wonder” Ginn, Junior instead. It doesn’t get much colder than that.

  109. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    He’s only 29, What a waste.

  110. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    NFL: Not For Long. It’s a gruesomely tough game.

  111. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah. Problem?

  112. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    That it is Grumpy.

    AP has put out its first ever NFL team rankings, Packers, Patriots, Giants, Niners, Ravens are their top 5 in that order.

  113. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Are you asking me Chuck?

  114. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That’s for 12th.

  115. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    None of us will ever know, Grump. OJ Murdock, WR for the Titans, just offed himself.

  116. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Problem, no. I scanned aroung blogs and noticed a trend, much after 10 or so contributors it devolves into silliness. I was wondering if you wouldn’t mind me as an addition?

  117. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I am not sold on the Packers and Pats as 1-2 at all. Both defenses are not all that. The Giants and Ravens worry me more. Rodgers and Brady are great QBs, but they went home ringless last January, didn’t they? Complete teams win championships. I like our chances, if we can upgrade the passing game. Moss could be the key guy this year.

  118. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Come on down. No one there but a bunch of nuts.

  119. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, I don’t have to be drunk to make you look silly. And, again, don’t pretend to know or understand me. Because you obviously don’t. Nor do I have to be drunk to express my opinions. If you can’t handle the truth, then don’t be scared when you are exposed to it. Christ, your opinion is gold? We are all supposed to worship at the altar of Crabs? Why? Because you say so?Sorry. No. You can be blinded by his draft position and his college numbers. Me? No.

  120. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit the reason Crabtree has the magnifying glass on him started with his antics on Draft Day.
    He came into this League as a disciple of Deion and continued to perpetuate the ‘Diva’ antics he was instructed to perform.
    Remember the holdout?
    Remember the accusation of tampering from the NYJ?
    Add that to the ongoing streak of non-participation and less than glowing remarks towards Alex and you can see where my ire is genetated from.
     
    The Team concept is what I support and, what I expect from a winning organization.
    Crabtree is nothing short of a ME Guy.
    Team doesn’t seem to be in his vocabulary.
    Whether he’s trade bait or not, he’s not in shape, he misses too much time prior to the Season and, it impacts his productivity when the games matter.
    My position remains unchanged.
    He expected to be paid because Deion fueled his ego from day one.
    Perhaps he feels compelled to protect his health until he’s ready for the second Contract?
    Who knows?
     
    All I’m suggesting is, if he’s worth a decent Draft Pick in a Trade right now, I’d do it.
    His stats and production to date don’t warrant him getting paid 1st Rd money for mid Rd production IMO.
    His $3+M Cap number can easily be saved without fear of losing any significant on field productivity.
    He lacks speed, motivation and determination to win.
    He’s a perfect Dallas Cowboy Candidate.
    Call Jerruh now and see what he’s willing to give us.
    Crabtree is an underneath guy. His game is not about speed. It’s about timing and crisp routes.
    He and Alex need that timing in order to succeed.
    It lacks big time.

  121. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Crisp routes. The knock on Crabs his whole career is that his route running is lacking.

  122. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Again, Bullit, please knock off the ad hominem attacks. Chicken shit. The trick of the beaten is to deflect.

  123. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, don’t see the Niners trading Crabs this year they have nobody proven to replace him and he does contribute although your point is taken that the contribution is not of a 10th overall.

    This is likely his make or break year though. He needs to really show he wants to be a playmaker on this team and bust his butt to prove it.

    I think the key variable to our passing game is Moss.

  124. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, I don’t see Braylon even making it through the preseason.

  125. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Moss is the enigma. He will at least draw safety coverage deep to start with. I think Manningham will fill Crabs spot pretty fast if Crabs misses any length of practice time.

  126. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shit, KW could fill that spot.

  127. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And 12th, you don’t have to join or be a follower to post on my blog.

  128. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    12th he’s just a total source of frustration for me.
    Granted, a trade is likely pie in the sky at this point but, why not?
    Stranger things have happened.
    In light of all the drama generated by Dez in Dallas, Crabtree would improve the the police blotter-fodder down there.
    Totally agree regarding Moss.
    He too is a lightning rod of controversy waiting to erupt but, IF he remains focused and, this Offense can show some signs of life, we might all be pleasantly surprised.

  129. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d like to see Braylon make the team and get lit up by Patrick or NaVorro.

  130. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    NJ I’m confident that despite some players not exactly blowing my skirt up that this team has enough strength and coaching acumen to go all the way. I agree with Grumpy that all that flashy offensive firepower of The Pack and Pats don’t mean a hill of bans in the playoffs when they have to face the best defenses and we may well have THE best defense.

  131. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Agree 12th, I’m a Defense-First guy all the way.
    We need efficiency on Offense.
    Ball control, move the chains, wear down a Defense kinda stuff.
    Seems like Harbaugh is preaching that as well.
    Can’t wait for things to get going.

  132. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Its been a long time since I was this excited for the season to start.
    I expect a tough game but a win for the Niners in Green Bay

  133. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Ditto.
    Good to be relevant again.

  134. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Just got back from Squaw Valley where Guitar Shorty was incredibly fun to watch play some blues!

  135. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He’s good Berger, glad you enjoyed it.

  136. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That’s the rub, NJ. The biggest problem last year was 3rd down conversions. They didn’t have a guy that could consistently rush for 3rd and 1 and get it. Dixon failed in the NFC champ game badly, and the conversion rate was low. Jacobs will hopefully help a little there.
    .
    I don’t think this offense is going to change all that much from last year. Granted, having WRs that can get open should help stretch the field some. The Giants tried to take away VD, and he still made some big plays. No one else did.
    .
    I think this tram is definitely built to take all the marbles.

  137. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Didja say Jimmy Thackery was going to be there, Bergs?

  138. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Squaw has Jimmy Thackery next Tuesday. I’ll be there again. Incredible artists, and for free!

  139. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Thackery is a great show.
    Saw him several times out this way.
    See if you can persuade them to do ‘Detroit Iron’

  140. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Guitar Shorty. This guy is 72!
     
    http://youtu.be/7vw_yLCe2N8

  141. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shit. We’ll see. That drive is a PITA. He was incredible at the SC blues festival.

  142. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think Thackery has the best version of Apache of anybody.

  143. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shorty played SC the year before. So many good blues guys out there.

  144. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    So from 2:44 am to 7:26pm
    you had a change of heart?

  145. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    This will be fun to see. Jimmy Thackery:

    http://youtu.be/WR4GuB0iHV0

  146. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit no, same frustrations, different day.
    I can agree with you as the optimist and hope for him to ‘arrive’ or I can cut my losses and make a deal for him and not miss him.
    We need a playmaker.
    If he decides to do that for us, I’m all for it.
    Just not gonna get my hopes up.

  147. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Still can’t get your facts straight?

    This is what you posted in your blog
    “Crabs was obviously hedging his bet last year by not participating in the mini-Alex-happy-camps and calling it a foot injury due to his new shoes. It conveniently lasted all through the pre-empted preseason and camp. Shoe-gate was a joke, as was his bullshit treatment of Alex Smith before those camps started”

    The truth per Matt Barrows

    http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2011/08/crabtree-close-to-returning-from-broken-foot.html

    Why does everyone seem to know this except yourself? Are we just seeing what we choose to?

    You have neither made me look silly nor am I afraid.

    Suggest you review your own blog
    because what you write here contradicts what you wrote there.

  148. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    It is very telling when you ignore
    facts and the truth to demonize a player you truly dislike.

    As has often been said opinions are just like assholes, everyone has one, but I’m thinking you have more than one.
    You guarantee that Niner management is thinking like you are?

    Reality time will set in when #15
    lines up as a starting WR against the Packers on Sept 9.

    That’ll be an in your face moment
    and I hope you realize who’s been made to look silly here. Hyuk!

  149. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    That sounds great! I can’t wait for #15 to line up against the Packers!

  150. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Ravens sign Billy Bajema.
    Cardinals sign Thomas Clayton.

  151. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Oh, shut up Bullit. You must have a better use of your time that searching through old posts. In my face? Really? Christ, you act like you are 15. If he misses yet another training camp, he won’t be starting. If he puts in the work, great. Sign him to a 10 yer extension. Shower him in gold. Bully
    .
    My position has been the same. He is not on board with Smith as his QB. He’s not doing what he can to be a great WR. He’s of the Deion/Dez school of self aggrandizement. If you don;t like that, tough shit. But, please stop bringing this up. We’ve beaten this to death 10x over.

  152. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I can find 10,000 posts of you being a total asshole on the Insider, Bullit. So, STFU. There are plenty of people who don’t share your lolly-pop view of Michael Crabtree. Don’t like it? Awwww. Sorry, skippy.

  153. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    And, a last addendum. Crabs missed 4 or 5 of the camps before his shoes attacked him. He was practicing with OTHER QBs, rather than with Alex.
    .
    Hitting the pipe early today?

  154. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like some of our scraps are hanging in there. I liked Bajema. Clayton was the preseason wionder, right?
    .
    I wonder if Seattle is looking at Coffee again. . .

  155. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Like I said time will tell but I’m confident you’re going to eat your words.Keep up with the name calling and putdowns and then calling me a kid. It just shows what a class guy you are.
    You absolutely can’t take it.

  156. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yes, I have more than one opinion, Bullit. Again, many here share my less-than-rosy view of Crabs. Why do you insist on pestering me? Unrequited love? I’m flattered, but not interested.

  157. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    You never said time will tell. You said Crabs would be starting. Loksk like you picked the wrong morning to quit sniffing glue.

  158. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Nice hedge, BTW. I’m sure the rest of the people here are riveted with this discourse. As I’ve said numerous times, let it go, skippy.

  159. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Actually, the discourse is somewhat entertaining. Continue.
     
    For the record. I like Crabs, hope he starts, think he will start and believe his injuries are real. Having said that, his hold out was a major negative. His injuries are frustrating. His not properly reading defenses is frustrating. His comments are frustrating. But if he helps us win, that is all I care about. I’m still rooting for him and still think he will end up helping us win.

  160. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, if he was a second round pick and we had a better #1 guy, no one would be upset. He has produced decent #2 numbers. It’s the expectations that come with being drafted so high, coupled with the hints of not being a ‘team’ guy and maybe not having the best work ethic that leave a lot of people frustrated.
     
    Either he will get better this year, or Moss will displace him as the #1, and Manningham could send him to the bench. Either way, it will take care of itself. I am looking forward to seeing what Alex does with our new toys.

  161. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yes, this is the 1st year Crabs will actually have some competition around him, instead of being the de facto #1 straight out of bed.
    .
    If the competition raises Crabs game, great. If not, he’ll be left behind. Like Coach keeps saying, you are either getting better or getting worse. You do not stay the same. The other thing Harbaugh said is there are no front-runners. Everyone has an equal shot at the WR position.

  162. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    If you would get your head out from between those massive cheeks
    you would see at 11:47am yesterday I said let’s see how this plays out.
    Why am I pestering you? I am answering your personal attacks
    as unpleasant as it is. If I keep silent you come back an hour later and declare that I’m scared.
    I would stop with the drug references because most of the time I think you’re on crystal meth.

  163. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. I’m rubber and yer glue. Hyuk! You started the personal attacks, so like a typical weenie you talk shit, then cry foul when you get it back. Too bad, so sad. If you can’t take the heat, don’t start shit.

  164. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    No trophy, no flowers, no flashbulbs, no wine
    .
    He’s haunted by something he cannot define
    .
    Bowel-shaking earthquakes of doubt and remorse
    .
    Assail him, impale him with monster truck force

  165. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Shanahan reports that DL Kentwan Balmer’s absence from practice was unexcused.”
     
    That’s our boy. Hey, Shanahan, what’s unexcused is you bringing the guy to camp in the first place.

  166. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    He’s still on the Hawks?

  167. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Not for long I guess. I’d imagine he’s hangin’ with Mr. Coffee.

  168. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!

  169. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting (and apropos) article:

    http://tinyurl.com/d3fdao3

  170. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bottom line: Maxi Pad will out-stat Moss and every other WR on our roster this year. Anyone disagree with that statement? I could always use another bottle of booze. Wanna bet?

  171. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Where are my manners, I need to reply to Chuck’s asinine question
    from yesterday. He asked:
    “team thought so highly of Crabs that they went out and signed 2 free agents and drafted a WR in the 1st round. Why is that?”
    The answer is simple but it seems to be beyond your understanding of football and it is suprising you couldn’t figure it out.
    They cut Braylon Edwards and lost Josh Morgan to the Redskins so they needed 2 more receivers to fill those spots. It seems that everyone knows that the first round pick was a best player available pick and they chose AJ Jenkins. The pick was for the future and not to fill a need.
    When you have 90 training camp roster spots to fill you tryout players and look for that hidden gem.

  172. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck the Bleacher Report piece hits all the points several of us have belabored here in recent months.
     
    No question Baalke saw Moss as a Vet with plenty to offer a young WR Group.
    Biggest gripe for me has been Crabtrees’ nonchalant approach to step up and work with Alex.
     
    It’s all about motivation.
    Jerry feared failure. Moss loves the game, though he bores easily and becomes lazy at times.
    No matter the reason, every player at this level should at least have the motivation to win and excel at their position.
     
    Can’t presume Coach’s are responsible for making them ‘Want It’.

  173. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit the bigger surprise in this Draft class, (for me), was LMJ –
    Granted Frank is short on available miles but, Kendall and LMJ as a 1, 2 punch is pretty interesting for what many of us perceive as a ‘Power’ rushing attack.
    Looks like HarBaalke enjoy the speed element as well.
    This should be a fun Offense to watch once it gets up to speed and finds it’s rhythm.

  174. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Exactly, NJ. I just wanted Bullit to know that I wasn’t the only one with questions around Crabtree.
    .
    Lamestream media I suppose.
    .
    Yes, this offense really needed som speed. LMJ and AJ should provide some of that. Harbaugh’s very good at using his players’ strengths. Should be some new wrinkles.

  175. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    What do you think of that article, Bullit?

  176. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And, guess who missed practice today?

  177. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ahhh, I get it, Bullit. Randy Moss and Mario Manningham are tryout players. Got it.

  178. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hidden gems!!!!

  179. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I mean really. No one saw Super Mario in the Super Bowl.

  180. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Any time I see Bleacher Report as a source of expertise, I laugh. They were asking me to write articles for them. I kid you not. Del Mar Dennis was asked too. All that thing is, is fans expressing opinions. It is like having a bunch of Grant Cohns, they pretend to be experts because they found a platform.

  181. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Doedn’t mean the guy’s wrong though . . .
    .
    My point is was and will be Crabs isn’t realizing his potential. If he keeps missing practices he’ll slide down the depth chart.

  182. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think we’ve all seen the struggles Crabtree has getting off press coverage Berger.
    Being an underneath/possesion specific WR, he’s always conspicuously late to break and locate the ball.
    Mess up his release you often kill the play.
    As the piece on B/Report suggested, Crabtree needs to polish his technique and get his head into his assignments instead of pointing fingers at the QB all the time.
     
    Granted, Alex isn’t the most accurate guy in the NFL but, timing has never developed between them.

  183. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    A more motion oriented/spread attack may actually benefit him and Alex.
    We’ll see what they unveil in GB.

  184. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    God. Fans expressing opinions?
    .
    Can’t have that.

  185. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If not Crabs, then certainly Moss and Manningham should benefit opening things up. Alex is certainly fine with running the gun.

  186. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I agree Chuck.
    Alex has had his challenges standing tall in the pocket and pulling the trigger.
    Chilo didn’t help him much in that regard of course.
    If the OL delivers in Pass Pro, this should be a fun Season to watch.

  187. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    RG is still a question in my head. Boone needs to pack on 20-30 pounds to be the usual-sized guard. L Davis needs to lose about 40 pounds to be effective. But we’ll see. At least it isn’t Alex’s blind side

  188. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    True. I think Boone has the demeanor to play inside, his height is a likely disadvantage.
    How many balls will Alex bounce off the back of his head?

  189. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Both Boone and Anthony have that ‘Nasty’ in their game too.
    Makes that right side a lot tougher.
    Baalke seems to look for that in his OL.
    Iupati Goodwin etc, there’s a deliberate effort to find brawlers who enjoy contact.

  190. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    9-7, if we’re lucky.

  191. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m thinking 11-5 Del

  192. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Still want to play games and make a fool of yourself? I’ve pointed out two of your lies which you never addressed.
    Shall I quote what you said about Moss when the Niners signed him?
    I can embarass you some more if you like.
    All you need to do is ask.

  193. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So some of you have these laundry lists of Crabtree negatives, what a lazy player he is, how he fools around in the meetings and doesn’t give 100% in practice or in games, how he fakes injuries and is a lousy team player who has a poor relationship with his QB and he’s a diva.
    Whine, whine, whine.
    Baalke, Harbaugh and the Niner coaches are either stupid or blind. Why can’t they see what you see and trade this cancer?
    After all you guys have all met Crabtree personally and have beein in the meetings, practice field and film room. You’ve seen
    and gauged him personally face to face.
    You guys know best, not Baalke or Harbaugh.
    Surely they can clearly see what you experts see.

  194. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Goddamn but this place makes me laugh.
     
    Gentlemen, please…. continue….

  195. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy teeters on the edge of non-grumpiness. Hold the presses!

  196. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Naw, it was a grumpy, bitter laugh, Skeebs. Reserved for public displays of stupidity.
     
    My Inner Child is a mean, nasty, destructive little fracker. It’s good to be me.

  197. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- How do you stay so motivational?

  198. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m a sociopathic egomaniac, Bergs. I’m always in my happy place. People around me, not so much. 🙂

  199. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    So would it help your day if I told you fuk you:-)

  200. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, this site just cracked the top one million mark. Not bad for a site that doesn’t care if it is known.

  201. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Just as an example, unca’s site is at a rank of 5.1 millionth. Both fine sites, and no dis-respect for unca, he has a fun site. I’m just trying to give Skeebers a little kudoos.

  202. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Where’d you get that stat, Berg? I guess it’s as close as I’ll ever get to being a millionaire.

  203. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    What a stupid idea from not so bright ex-player. His brain has been fried from all the coke he ingested
    http://tinyurl.com/ck3kmu6

  204. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting, Berger. I didn’t know you were interested in me that way.
     
    LOL

    Sorry. The wife might get jealous…

  205. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Grump

    If you want to ridicule me say it to my face and not behind my back. Thank-you

  206. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Behind your back… in a public internet forum. Seems a bit contradictory there.
     
    Anyway. Yeah. People who never learn when to shut up and let it go are funny. You’re funny, Bullit. Congrats. Three cheers for Bullit…

  207. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- Tell the wife it is safe to go outside, or inside, or whatever. Nothing physical intended except possibly a laugh or a smile.

  208. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Always smiling here, Bergs.
     
    That’s how I keep the neighbors so worried.

  209. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers, I’ve built a web site. I haven’t published it yet. Along the way I picked up some tracking software. CSNBA is about 27,000th.
     
    BTW, my web site has nothing to do with sports.

  210. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Good luck on it, Berg. Will you be taking comments (snirk, snirk)?

  211. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    You having fun reading my old blogs Bullit? Get a fricking hobby, sport. I know what I said about Moss. It’s pretty much how I feel now. They needed WR help. They got him. My thoughts at the time were that he’s a bit of a head case, and he brings a lot of baggage. If he’s a distraction, cut him.
    .
    That was THEN.
    .
    Now he’s SO FAR acting like he wants to be a player-coach type guy and help the young guys including Crabs. At the time he signed, I didn’t know what his ‘tude would be. Neither did anyone.
    .
    You’ve now entered stakler territory. STFU already.
    .
    PS. Don’t be a chickenshit and lurk my site. You have something to say over ther, say it over there. Better yet, don’t. Get a life, skippy. You obviously can’t stop, can you? You think I’ll change my mind?
    .
    Yer like a frigging Chihuahua with a chew toy. Let. It. Go.

  212. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    BTW Bergs, Skeebs site is at 74510 posts.
    .
    Uh, well 74511.
    .
    Your million is a little off. Muich like your Nate stats.

  213. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- It doesn’t measure posts, it measures traffic. I would guess it means Skeebs has a lot of people reading and not posting, while most of your readers are posting? You do have to admit that Skebers writing skills are way up there when he choses to flaunt them.

    skeebs- No comments except “contact us”.

  214. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I have no idea. There are metrics built to my site that I’ve looked at occasionally, but I haven’t delved too deep into them.
    .
    I’m at 11,401 . . .

  215. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    And yes, Skeebs is a good writer.

  216. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- I think you mis-read the post. Then amount of posts is not tracked. Skeebs got the 902,137 most hits on the web in the last 30 days. It is a ranking for traffic. Your traffic ranking is at 5,140,151.

  217. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    I made the comment that Moss signed a one year contract and you mocked me for the comment when you basically said the same thing. Get your story straight and pay more attention.
    Niners took a flyer on Moss and it’s working out.One year contract
    and minimal money.

  218. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, you had a lot of comments on your old blogspot site that went bye-bye when you switched to WordPress.

  219. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    You’re being talked about on Chuck’s blog

  220. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, the amount of posts is tracked in the blog addy above. That number changes every time someone posts to a given blog.
    .
    I don’t know shit about the traffic. I also don’t put in tags and shit like that. It may increase my traffic, but who knows?
    .
    Bullit, I mock you because you are emminently mockable. If you were going to gasmes at Kezar in the 50s, then that puts you in your mid 60s? Yikes. Are you usually this childish in real life? I looked at what I posted in my thread about Moss when he signed and its what I’ve been saying all along. Move along, skippy.

  221. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    You seem to have a problem with your reading comprehension.
    When did I ever say I was at Kezar in the 50’s?
    I fight fire with fire. Yeah you and Grump are real adults.
    Keep telling yourselves that and keep believing that Crabtree faked his foot surgery before the 2011 season.

  222. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- It’s just unca trying to get the last word. If there was ever a blogger who needs to get the last word it is unca chuck. The blog is famous for us throwing darts at each other. I try to be amused by it. Unca can really take it serious at times.

  223. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    LOL. I’m still waiting for the full Godwin here. Until someone invokes Hitler, the argument cannot end. First Law of the Intrawebz.

  224. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Somebody should start a list like we had for V and all of his Malaprop’s. This would be a list of all of unca’s names he has called all of us and the condescending tag lines. Is there a hard drive big enough?

  225. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    ‘Escaped goats’ was good.
     
    I actually called him Mister Malaprop for awhile. Before I got bored and just started to ignore his rantings.

  226. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Are we still looking for that escaped goat?

  227. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    There is a list of names used by Chuck? I thought we were all just “Skippy”.

  228. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Sadly, the Blind Legions will never catch the Escaped Goats. Being blind and all.

  229. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Whose FF team was the Escaped Goats? Was that you, Chuck?

  230. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    He uses “skippy” to let us know we are clue less. Yesterday he tells me Nat is hitting .247 when he was actually hitting .257. he then tells me Pence is hitting .290 when he is hitting .259. When I pointed out his shoot from-the-hip statistics he corrected them and told us he was talking averages. Then his corrections were wrong and had to be corrected again. Now he is ragging on me about statistics and calling out more names over on his sight. You have to admit, this is great stuff. Unca is funnier than a clown.

  231. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Sometimes I imagine a web surfer landing here and trying to imagine what the hell we are talking about.

  232. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, the deluded clowns are out there rounding up the gullible sheep.

    Yer all skippy to me. Don’t know what you’re dreaming about Bergs. You’re one to talk. Have a couple. Your drunken rabmlings point to what? Your true dickishness? It’s strange that you become a major league asshole when you drink and post. Are those your true thought coming out? Or are you just a sloppy drunk? As least I don’t hide behind alcohol to say shit.
    .
    I can’t say corksoaker, Skeebs?

  233. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, you are a true idiot. And I mean that in the nicest way. You said the trade was a bust for the Giants because of one day. Man-crushes are pretty creepy when they are exposed sometimes.
    .
    .
    .

    Here’s a test for the rest of you clowns. pick the guy you’d want on your baseball team. Career numbers, BTW:
    .
    a) 131 HRs 471 RBIs .290 avg
    b) 23 HRs 119 RBIs .270 avg
    .
    Both these guys started their careers in 2007 and are currently playing now.

  234. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    You don’t need to, you are always a dick.

  235. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Time for reading glasses. I never said I went to Kezar in the 50’s and I never said I was in my 60’s.
    Care to share how old you are?
    Nothing wrong with being on the other side of 50 except people dying all around you.

  236. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Poor Bergs. I don;t get my math exactly right, and he misses the point entirely. As a guy with a man-crush will do.
    .
    f Nate hit 80 HRs last night and drove in 350 runs, he’d STILL be behind Pence’s stats.
    .
    Yeah, I know. Stats don’t mean anything. Except when they do. Like in determining who is the better player. Hyuk.

  237. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right, Bergs. I don’t need to get FUBAR to post here. You get drunk, and you act like a dick and a half.

    I’m 51, Bullit. Save me the maudlin horseshit.
    .
    Here’s your post from waaaaaaaaaaaaay back a couple days ago.
    ………..
    Not sure which of you are old enough to remember this. I went to a lot of games at Kezar as a Christopher Milk Jr 49er.
    …………
    I wish I had kept some milk cartons from 1965. (what was I thinking?)
    . http://blog.49ers.com/2012/07/31/49ers-seek-christopher-milk-artifacts/
    .
    The article sez these milk cartons are from the 50s. I guess I didn’t read your post. Silly me.

  238. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    As for not getting my numbers exactly right, Bergs, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!! Don’t be a pussy. Do you get the point? Nate can’t carry Pence’s jock.

  239. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    a) Has played every game, except for injuries, and played in two homer friendly ballparks. Is on his 3rd team in less than two years(I guess his own teams did not think he was worth it). Makes 13 mil and is going to make 14 next year in arbitration, which will probably cost us not being competitive for Melky Cabrera. Is currently hitting about .257 while the guy traded away is hitting about .261 while making only 1 or 2 mil per year.
    b) Has never had a legitimate shot at starting which has cost many HRs. Was an integral piece of the 2010 World Series champion. Great defender with a strong cannon like arm. If not traded, there would be money for Melky Cabrera and one of the top catching prospects in baseball would still be a Giant.
     
    Not so black and white. If you give me Pence for Nate straight across, OK. The other factors say we got fleeced.

  240. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    So now you are measuring dicks. Jerry Sandusky is waiting for you in the shower.
     
    The funny thing is you just admitted to being a dick. You are a funny guy!

  241. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    For the same money, I’ll take Pence. For 13 mil more, a top prospect and lessening the chance to sign Melky Cabrera, I’ll take Nate, the 13 mil, Tommy Joseph and Melky Cabrera. We got fleeced.

  242. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Integral piece? The other factors? You don’t even know who Tommy Joseph is. Thin the Giants are fin weith their current catcher? Well? Joseph was a moveable piece.
    .
    .242 3 HRs and 17 RBIs. Yeah, that up there with what Buster did.
    .
    The Giants saw an opportunity to get a RIGHTHANDED hitter with some pop at the expense of Nate and a couple minor leaguers. They are picking up around $16 mill for NEXT YEAR. Meaning he’s under contract. Not a rental like Victorino likely will be with the Dodgers.
    .
    EVERY GM in the game would do that deal.
    .
    The Dodgers are eating $38 MILLION and 3 pitchers for Hanley Ramirez. His numbers this year are worse than Pence’s.
    .
    You have to make moves in order to given yourself a shot to win. The moves may not work, but keeping Nate would not have helped the team in any way shape or form.

  243. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Carry on by yourself unca. Just remember, you got Pence. I would rather have Nate, 13 million, Tommy Joseph and Melky Cabrera.

  244. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    God, I may be a dick, but at least I’m not an insufferable weenie. You couldn’t figure that out til now? Wow. No hope for you, skippy.
    .
    The fact that Pence is under contract next year is a GOOD thing.
    .
    Duh.
    .
    the Giants have a shitload of money coming off the books (ZITO, Rowand, Freddie S, HUFF) in the next couple years.
    .
    Sabean has alrady said that signing Pence will in no way dictate their attempt at keeping Melkiy.

  245. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Where is Joseph going to play, Bergs?

  246. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Is he going to sit on Buster’s shoulders?

    Hector Sachez is looking like a solid backup. Joseph was moveable. I said this a month ago that their minor league catchers would be used for trade fodder.

  247. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I guess you didn’t know he was a catcher.
    .
    Duh!!!

  248. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    As we waint with baited breath:
    .
    49ers offensive coordinator Greg Roman gave no hints as to whether he expects Michael Crabtree to practice. He participated in walk through.
    .
    I guess you have to start somewhere.

  249. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    You’re correct about somebody always bullying for the last word.
    What does give it a rest mean?

  250. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I can see why you ask what ‘give it a rest’ means, Bullit, because you obviously don’t:
    ……………………
    .
    Bullit says:
    .
    August 2nd, 2012 at 6:38 am
    .
    Chuck
    .
    Still want to play games and make a fool of yourself? I’ve pointed out two of your lies which you never addressed.
    Shall I quote what you said about Moss when the Niners signed him?
    I can embarass you some more if you like.
    All you need to do is ask.
    ……………
    6:38 AM. You couldn’t WAIT to start this shit back up.

  251. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gotcha!!!

  252. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    I never agreed to give it a rest. You keep saying it. Kinda like calling a truce and breaking it.
    I was answering what you posted the night before. When you ask me a question it would be rude not to reply. It’s no win for me because when I don’t answer you, you make crap up and start taunting me as being scared. Before pointing fingers I suggest you look at yourself.

    Based on your “gotcha” post I’m the little kid?
    The only guy you’re fooling is Grumpy because you same the same ideaology.

  253. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Then why did you ask what ‘give it a rest’ means?
    .
    You need to stat making sense at some point in this discussion. I’ve been patient and helpful, but some people are beyond help. Me? I’m done.
    .
    Adios, Skippy.

  254. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Oh, one last tidbit.
    .
    Michael Crabtree is on the sidelines for today’s practice.

  255. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Oooooooh…. “ideaology”. Is that like ideology? Almost V-worthy there.
     
    My ideology is that this place makes me bust a rib laughing. Not sure if that makes me a Godless Commie or whatever, but we’re creeping closer to that inevitable Godwin.

  256. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I have to go “Duck Tape” my couch.
    Frank’s been scratching and clawing on it sumthin’ fierce this past week.

  257. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I still say Maxi Pad will have the best numbers when all is said and done this year. I’m putting up a bottle of Smirnoff vodka. As my buddy, Bill O’Reilly would say, “What say you?”

  258. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    For what team, though, Dennis? the Raydurs?

  259. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bill O’Reilly’s a hack. Well, I shouldn’t say that, because he’s in on the joke. Plus, he’s Irish. He writes superficial pablum for the masses. The funny thing is, he doesn’t even believe himself. But he does know what sells.

  260. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. Big spender. Smirnoff? I wouldn’t wash my lug nuts with that. Keep it. You’ll need it.

  261. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Starting Right fielder for the Phildelphia Phillies . . .
    .
    John Mayberry?!?
    .
    Looks like Bochy musta got to Ol’ Charlie . . .
    .
    I guess that’s why they are losing.

  262. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    How did the 13 mil Pence do today? Did he help the Giants win in either of his first two days like Nate did yesterday?
     
    BTW, earlier you said Pence was signed for next year. That statement is false.

  263. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    He drove in a run. How many 70 RBI seasons has Nate have?

  264. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    How do you figure that, Bergs? Oh that’s right. Another flippant comment from the master. He’s a free agent after the 2013 season. The team will avoid arbitration. Double duh there skippy.
    .
    Besides I guess Pence wins today. He drove in a run. Nate was pulling splinters out of his ass.
    .
    What place are the Phillies in again? Funny to see how easily you can be swayed into rooting for other teams. Your dream boy leaves, and sudden;y you aren’t a Giants fan.
    .
    One other thing, weren’t you complaining about Pence’s inflated numbers in that bandbox called Philly? Looks like Nate got his first cheapie.

  265. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Cheapie!

  266. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    So, are we going to be sujected to a breathless Nate watch every day, Bergs?
    .
    Ooooooh. I’m getting chills.

  267. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    You seem to be enthralled with Nate as much as any person alive. You post more on him than me. Keep going. I’ll let you have the last word.

  268. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    This blog is pretty strange sometimes.

  269. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Entertaining though.

  270. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedule
09/12 - 10:00 AM @ DET
09/19 · 10:00 AM @ PHI
09/26 · 5:20 PM v GB
10/03 · 1:05 PM v SEA
10/10 · 1:25 PM @ AZ
10/17 BYE
10/24 · 5:20 PM v IND
10/31 · 10:00 AM @ CHI
11/07 · 1:25 PM v AZ
11/15 · 5:15 PM v LAR
11/21 · 10:00 AM @ JAX
11/28 · 1:25 PM v MIN
12/05 · 5:20 PM @ SEA
12/12 · 10:00 AM @ CIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
 
2020 Prognostications (Mulligan Version)
WINNERS:
Bullit: 6-10
NJ49er: 6-10

LOSERS:
Skeebers: 7-9
Winder: 4-12

ABSTAINERS:
Grumpy: DNP
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