Coping Machinationisms

I’m trying to feel lousy about the 49ers losing the NFC Championship game, but it isn’t working. I feel bad, certainly. But not lousy. If I was a Packers fan or a Saints fan, I would feel lousy. Those two franchises had great teams with great expectations and they failed to meet them. The 49ers were a bunch of scrappers that defied and exceeded any and all expectations to even get to the Championship game.

In the end, the team wasn’t beaten, so much as fickled. A small, brief, sideways kiss of a wandering oblate spheroid on the leg of Kyle Williams is what put the Giants in the Super Bowl, and not the 49ers. When the 49ers have gone to the big game, they have earned their way in. Sorry, Giants. You didn’t. You were just plain lucky.

But that’s what happens when your team is constantly in the playoffs. Every now and then, the ball bounces your way. The two teams in the SB this year don’t really deserve to be there, but they are. And that is the hardest thing to deal with. That and having to avoid reading anything about these two teams in the the next two weeks. The East Coast can get all goo-goo faced about the Pats/Giants game, but for me, the season is over. I’ve checked into the self-induced coma room for a fourteen day ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz…………

This 49er season had two extra games to it and those two games were AWESOME! Absolutely awesome.

They’re also the start of a new era of winning football. The Dark Ages of the franchise has ended.

The 2012 season will have higher expectations and an increased capability for feeling lousy at season’s end. Those of us who are old enough can attest to the depths of attainable lousiness by referencing 1987 and 1990 as super downer examples. The 49ers were good enough to win the Super Bowl four straight years back then, but only came away with two.

Hey, guys! We won’t be clamoring all offseason for a pass rush OLB this year! Wow. What a year by Aldon Smith. The pass rush in the Giants game, especially in the second half, was overpowering.

This year’s clamor will obviously be for a scary WR. That’s what Michael Crabtree was supposed to be, but clearly isn’t. He’ll be much better and scarier when other teams are doubling up someone else. Braylon Edwards was signed for this purpose last summer and immediately contracted Jonas Jennings Disease and spent most of the year being useless at best and awful when used at worst.

For those poo-pooing the need for good WRs, take a look at the Giants. They were a 7-7 team until their WRs all got healthy. They haven’t lost since.

We won’t be clamoring for new O-line bodies this offseason, either. This year’s line really settled in after the Ravens game and looks destined to be a force for years to come. Chilo Rachal is a FA and not likely to be re-upped, which makes Scot McCloughan’s last two drafts here almost a total wash out. Alcohol and excellence are just not the winning mix they used to be in the pre-roided out world.

How am I coping, guys? It’s only Tuesday and I’ve already got a little spring in my step. It’s Trent Baalke time. What’s not to like? Go get ’em, big guy. Bring home some glue hands and speedy feet.

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113 comments on “Coping Machinationisms
  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers- This team has been good enough to be in the play-offs since 2007. Unfortunately, the coaching was terrible. The difference between this year’s team and the 2007-2010 teams is the 2011 team was good enough to win the Super Bowl. Let’s hope we have a good off season so we can be that again next year.

  2. Mr FletchNo Gravatar says:

    I will say that Rachel did not completely suck when he injury subbed for Iupati on Sunday.

  3. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Two names for FA. WR Laurent Robinson is #1 on my list. Bullit mentioned him, but I was onto him before that. Good job bullit. The other is Jeremy Mincy if we don’t get Brooks re-signed. I’m staying away from the QB situation. I would like to re-sign Alex but trust Harbaugh will do the right thing. Whether he stays with Alex or goes after a different QB I’m all in. I do think Alex is a good QB.

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    KNBR announced Hustin Smith won the Len Eshmont Award. Congrats and well deserved as heart and soul of the defense.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Still waiting for an explanation of your GUARANTEE
    Then there’s the asinine statement
    that Ginn was the best WR on the team. 19 receptions 220 yds and ZERO TDs. In his 5 year career he has 6 TD receptions. Just another asinine statement from the Pinata Boy.

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Ginn is a great return guy but he has a long ways to go as a receiver.
    It’ll be interesting to see his asking proce to re-sign .

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Seely is interviewing for the HC
    position of the Colts. That would be a big loss for the Niners.

  8. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Jim Harbaugh said some very interesting things yesterday. Interesting….
    Question is, does the playoff run over-inflate the value of the four main free agents on the team, pushing ’em right off the roster? Will teams pickoff guys like Goldson to sell to their own fanbase as Pro Bowlers? Harbaugh said, “If guys can get paid more else where…” That, to me, means Baalke is going to be frugal – and rightly so.
    When considering who to resign, the 49ers need to consider the next man up. To me, that makes Dashon Goldson the #1 priority because Reggie Smith and Funky Col’ Media Williams are Charles Barkley, “trrible.” Conversely, the 49ers could get away with starting Brock, Holcomb, Culliver and Brown as their corners and let Rogers leave – (as long as they have good safety play over the top).
    Losing Brooks would also be significant. He’s a quiet warrior, and he does a solid job. Aldon will certainly start next year, so Parys could start for Brooks, but there wouldn’t be much depth behind if Brooks left, and I like Brooks’ quiet workman-like approach without many mistakes. I’d say Brooks is the number two priority to sign of the four I mentioned.
    Brian Billick said on the NFL Network yesterday that Alex Smith is looking at Kevin Kolb type money. I laugh at that. Kevin Kolb is making 10 million a year for two years. Alex Smith won’t make 10 million a year. If someone else is dumb enough to pay Alex 8 million a year, in this new salary cap area with teams strapped for cap room – Alex: don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
    Smith’s value is 4 or 5 million. Think about this. The 49ers could easily resign Goldson, Brooks and Rogers, their entire draft class, and AND bring in more free agents if they didn’t sign Alex Smith and let him walk. They could start Kaep or Tolzien and the rest of the team would get stronger, not weaker.
    #1 – Goldson
    #2 – Brooks
    #3 – Rogers
    #4 – Smith

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Lowell Cohn is such a douchebag.
    He a columnist just like Ratto, Kawakami and Knapp trying to stir things up. If you ever watched a Niner news conference you know that this dickweed should retire.

  10. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    From ESPN –
    Brad Seeley is a candidate for the Colts’ head coaching job. Seeley would be an excellent head coaching candidate. He knows people around the NFL, is well thought of, and he’d be certain to secure two good coordinators and handle the Luck / Manning ordeal with class. Don’t want to see him go, but that would a great hire for the Colts.
    Eli Manning just talked to his team. Excellent leadership and timing. Get the team focused on the business at hand – keep them out of the clubs and the parties before the Super Bowl. Very soon, Eli will be talked of in the same circles as Aaron, Tom, Drew and big brother, Peyton. And he may be better than all of ’em.
    Kyle Williams – the death threats from 49er fans deliver another blow to the reputation of the 49er fan base. There is now a “gang banger” element to the 49er fan base, and it’s not good. A letter to the editor about unruly fans making a Saint fan’s family experience at the Stick “awful,” and undercover cops dressed-up as Giant fans, underscores the change in the faithful. The days of the wine and cheese crowds aren’t gone, but they may be overshadowed by thugs and gangbangers, threatening players and the opposition’s fans. Kyle is standing tall through all of it, and it makes me like that kid that much more. Jed York should keep cracking down hard on unruly fans. Send a clear message – “We ain’t Raider fans.”

  11. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, we have our own Lowell Cohn right here.
    In my opinion, Goldson will want too much and the Niners will wave bye bye. I’m fine with that. Goldson’s game awareness sucks. He takes the wrong angles in pursuit, and forgets to use his arms to tackle. Yes, he had the 6 picks, but you know why? Like I’ve been harping on for the past few years, a strong pass rush makes decent guys look great. If he goes to a teams without a pass trush, he’ll sink back down the effectiveness chart.
    The problem is, the guys available who are good are either injury prone or too valuable to lose by their current teams. LaRon Landry and Dwight Lowery are the guys who would most likely be available. But they both have injury issues. DeCoud from Atl is worth a look. Reggie Nelson as well. Michael Griffin could use a change off scenery, and some coaching to straighten out their shit.

  12. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    In the playoffs, Dashon Goldson was tied for second leading tackler on the team with Patrick Willis – they both had 16 tackles. Bowman was first with an outstanding 25 tackles. Guys miss tackles and take bad angles. Bowman does it, Willis does it, Goldson does it, and so does Troy P in Pittsburgh. It makes me laugh that guys like Unca Chuck can have such unwavering hope that a player who’s been in the league seven years will continue to improve, but won’t recognize that a player who’s been in the league only five has more potential for growth. Dashon Goldson played big in the playoffs, and the 49ers’ secondary, particularly the safety position, has been a weakness for a long, long time. Goldson and Whitner will only get better with another year under their belt – learning how to further compliment each other. Goldson should be the 49ers’ top priority. Sure, he may demand more, and get more else where, but that doesn’t mean the 49ers should let him walk without a fight.

  13. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    How many passes did NYG throw underneath? 35? 40? He should have had more tackles. See? I can write pointless shit, too. Dashon’s more concerned with the big hit than wrapping up. He broke up 2 INTs and nearly killed Tarell Brown in the proccess. Game awareness. The safety position has been weak in recent years? Really? Who’s been back there? GOLDSON! Yeah yeah, Reggie Smith isn’t any great shakes, and neither was Taylor Mays. Whatever. Goldson is hot and cold. Good and bad. Inconsistent.
    Oh, the Niners will make him an offer. Someone else will overpay for his services, though. He already feels dissed by the FO. He’s gone.
    Gee, did Alex improve? Or are you just trolling, as usual? Or does 21st to 8th not count for anything.

  14. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Now I know you’re crazy. Let Rogers leave? And keep Goldson? You obviously don’t know how to build a defense. Lose the leader of the DBs, and keep the hard hitting hotdog? You ARE Lowell Cohn.
    The reason Goldson had ANY success was Rogers was singled up on the best WR all the time. He was free to roll to help Brown. Goldson’s a FREE safety, NOT a strong safety. He’s not very good in coverage. Where missing your angles is suicide. Where being late is a dsiaster. Yeah, he hits hard. But his JOB is to help over the top.
    Billick doesn’t know jack-shit about the negotiations for Alex Smith. But you take his word as gospel. Gawwd. Where’s the idiot button?

  15. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I noticed Unca didn’t complain about 49er receivers after the Saint game, but after the Giant game they’re terrible. How convenient.

  16. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    So, Carlos Rogers is about to turn 31 in June and Goldson just turned 27 in Sept. But Dumb Chucks, in all his wisdom, wants to build around Carlos Rogers at age 31 and sign him to a long-term contract over a player in his prime in Goldson. The 49ers have two safeties – Goldson and Whitner. That’s it. However, the 49ers have several other cornerback on the roster behind Rogers in Brock, Holcomb, Culliver and T Brown. So basically, Chuck favors an older cornerback playing a position on the team with established depth over a younger safety with no depth behind him. That, my friends, is Unca Chuck brilliance in an nutshell. Thank god Chuck isn’t a 49er decision maker. Emotional decisions from a junky. Lol. He sure can cut and paste the 49er website, though. Chuck – no more death threats to Kyle Williams. It isn’t the 49er way.

  17. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Why were you making death threats to Kyle Williams, Chuck? That’s not cool. Handle your buzz.

  18. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gee, you can’t read as well? I complained about Crabs being the drive killer in the 2nd half of the Saints game with his 3 drops. Duh. Want me to dig that one up as well? I guess making you look like a moron is getting to be a full time job for me.
    Holcolm’s coming off a major injury, and is a rookie. Brock? Untested. yeah, lose the best CB on the team and put in Brock. Brilliant.
    Culliver will more than likely get moved to safety, skippy, once Goldson moves on. He’s decent as a corner but would be better suited as a safety. As usual, dead fish, empty barrel. When did you stop beating your wife? Oh, that’s right. She popped.
    Go find another blog to pollute, troll. Oh, that’s right. you’ve been banned from ALL the Niner sites out there. Hmmmmmm, I wonder why.

  19. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Adios, Skeebs. Nice site. Til recently.

  20. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    “Holcomb’s coming off a major injury?” Lol. Dumb Chucks. Guess Chuck still isn’t privy to the late round red shirt in the NFL (that saves a roster spot for a player the team wants to develop). I’ve been the one saying Culliver could potentially move to safety, making a Ronnie Lott-like move (you should try to think for yourself sometime). However, I don’t think that’s in the 49ers’ best interest considering the current situation. Rogers will be 31, looking for his last long term deal he can retire on. Young safety, old corner isn’t the way. Safety in his prime, young corner is better. Both Rogers and Dashon will want a commitment. Rogers has already said he’ll take less, and I doubt Goldson would say that after the 49er let him hang last off season, but Goldson, because he’s young and has little depth behind him, is still the guy you commit to. Do I have to explain everything to you?
    If you can’t handle the heat, take your ball and go home – John Kruk style. I hear the other members of your blog are organizing a mass suicide.

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You are one dense fool.
    Rogers is the best corner on the team and apparently you have totally erased last year with Nate Clements giving up TD after TD and getting toasted on double moves.
    Goldson was available to the entire NFL and nobody would sign him befire this year. With Dashon he makes some good plays and then comes back with 2 bad plays.
    I would take Rogers over Goldson because Carlos had his best year ever and he wants to remain part of the team. Goldson will ask for
    a big payday again and be way overpriced. These are the facts Pinata Boy.

  22. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Guess Bullit and Unca don’t want to recognize that Goldson had an amazing playoff run – with a huge INT against Brees returned inside the five while also being the second leading tackler on the team in the playoffs while Carlos Rogers was getting his ass handed to him all game by Cruz in the NFC Championship game. How convenient.

  23. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Both Bowman and Willis had more tackles in the playoffs than Goldson. You’re chirping because Goldson had only 2 more tackles thand Rogers???
    Goldson also cost the Niner D 2 picks by knocking his teammate off sure INTs.
    Pinata boy only sees what he wants to.

  24. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Carlos Rogers got beat like a drum by Victor Cruz. Goldson made plays.
    Goldson is 27, Rogers will be 31 next camp. Maybe Cruz worked Rogers because football is a young man’s game. Both Rogers and Goldson are play makers, but Goldson is younger, with less depth behind him.

  25. ROBNo Gravatar says:


    imho goldson was damm good this year , but what grump was saying holds a lot of weight !

    here’s a question for you …

    is it just me or did goldson cost us two INT’s in this game ?

  26. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    imho we need to resign …

    1. smith
    2. rogers
    3. goldson
    4. snyder
    5. brooks
    6. ginn

    oh well i want them ALL !!!

  27. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    That’s why you’re an idiot know nothing fanboy. Please tell me why Goldson didn’t get a big contract and sign with another team in the offseason. His agent shopped him and nobody bit.
    Last year Goldson sucked. Sometimes the old Goldson shows up. Good CBs are hard to find and are held onto by smart teams
    Don’t think Goldson will be worth what he will ask for.
    Maybe this will jog your selective memory Pinata Boy

  28. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    mr FLETCH

    imo not only did rachal not suck when he was needed in this game , but i really like him !

    in fact , he might be the next adam snyder for us !

  29. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    On Sunday, during what would be the Ravens’ final set of downs, Cundiff completed his first-down prep and checked the scoreboard: second down. He ran through his routine and looked up at the scoreboard again: third down.

    Then, suddenly, chaos on the sidelines.

    Coaches were screaming—from the opposite end of the field to where Cundiff was thinking his third-down pre-kick kicker thoughts—for the field-goal unit. The play clock was ticking and Cundiff, as per normal, was back from the sideline and farther from the line of scrimmage than his teammates. As he was not expecting to go in yet, he had to run to get into position for a game-tying kick.

    So there it is. The scoreboard was wrong, Cundiff was rushed, and his mechanics on the kick went goofy. I don’t pass this along as any kind of an excuse for Cundiff — you can decide for yourself if his
    miss is excusable or something that even needs excusing — but it’s an explanation.

    Here’s another question, though: Is it possible that the Patriots did this on purpose? Did they have their scoreboard operator display the wrong down, to mess with Cundiff’s routine? Ravens kicking consultant Randy Brown is wondering that same thing. Via CBS Philly, Brown said to Angelo Cataldi on WIP in Baltimore, “I don’t think you can rule anything out in New England, can you?”

  30. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    “Please tell me why Goldson didn’t get a big contract…” Well, the 49ers did offer him a 5 year, $25 million dollar deal. To me, that’s pretty big. Goldson wanted more, and he was unrealistic. Now, he’ll get more than a 5 year, $25 million dollar deal. So, there’s your answer. Happy to educate you. Happy to also educate you about the Kevin Kolb “guaranteed” money part of his deal and that situation. If you’d like anymore help or advice, just ask.

  31. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Rob – Rachal is the next Snyder? Yeah, sure, the Canadian version…

  32. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    If you did any research you would know Goldson was asking for 5 years $35 mil and ended up signing for $1.2 mil on a 1 year contract. Pls show a creditable link that shows the 49er offer or is it the usual lie of yours?
    Read this article and you will see the stats support what I’m saying

  33. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    To put things in perspective Ed Reed is on a six year $44.5 mil conyrcat and Troy Polamalu signed for 4 years $34mil. Dontae Whitner’s contract is 3years at $4mil per year.
    Id I were the Niners I would spend my money elsewhere because Goldson is not close to being Reed’s or Polamalu’s class.

  34. ROBNo Gravatar says:


    thx for the input ! back at ya later for more !


  35. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Still waiting for your explanation on your GUARANTEE.
    Don’t do your Chicken of the Sea, Pinata Boy.

  36. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think the fact that Whitner got 3 years and Goldson got 1 speaks to the final line of thinking.
    Goldson and Whitner are both SSs.
    I’d look at Markelle Martin in April as a younger replacement for our long term FS plans.
    I buy your argument Albert, about Rogers’ age but, look at Champ Bailey as an example.
    Older cover CBs can get by on technique and reputation if you can surround them with speed.
    I’d lean toward Carlos and Draft a younger FS.
    We’ll have great Draft position for the needs we have.
    This WR FA class and the incoming Draft Class will net us some speed and hands.
    Still like the idea of Ladarius Green the lanky TE from La-Lafeyette and the DJax-like WR Joe Adams from AR in the Mid Rd area, (3-4).
    I’m not ready to declare a 1st/2nd Rd pick just yet. But I’d consider another DL addition Poe/Cox/Winn or, possibly Konz, the Center.
    Sanu is good, but I can’t see spending a 1 on him especially in this Draft Class.

  37. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If we can add to our Pass Rush and improve the DL rotation you do your secondary more justice.
    I’m also shopping for a replacement to Anthony Dixon. He had the sideline all to himself on Sunday if he could’ve lifted his feet off the ground instead of getting tackled by his shoelaces in the hole.
    Doug Martin from Boise might be a nice addition.
    Fact remains, we need to improve this Offense.
    Our D is certainly good enough if we can keep it intact.
    Deal Crabtree if possible and move on. He’s shown no heart and, seems destined to walk when he can anyway.
    He’s a natural for Big Duh.

  38. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    A guy who could take care of guys like VCruz in the slot is Janoris Jenkins No-AL.
    Problem there is the risk of blazing during his off time.
    If he’s serious about playing Pro he could be hanging around later than originally projected before Miami kicked him off the Roster.
    I also forgot to add JCrick as another guy I’d consider for my 1st Rd selection. Very much like Justin Smith. High motor go-go guy.

  39. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This kid is getting some favorable reviews from Mayock at the SR Bowl too.
    CB Dwight Bentley from La-Lafayette.
    2011 ALL-SUN BELT CONFERENCE FIRST TEAM: Dwight “Bill” Bentley (Louisiana-Lafayette, DB, Sr.), has been selected All-Sun Belt Conference First Team for the 2011 college football season. Bentley, a two-time All-SBC honoree, stepped up as one of the top shutdown corners and leads the SBC with two “pick sixes” helping Louisiana tie a 40-year old NCAA record with seven on the season. He is tied for fifth in the SBC with three interceptions. Two of his interceptions came against Oklahoma State’s Brandon Weeden who has been tabbed one of the top rated quarterbacks in the nation. His 50 solo tackles ranks ninth in the SBC while he ranks fifth in the SBC in passes defended.

  40. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I like Sanu very much but don’t want say I Draft him until I see a legitimate 40 time. I know many think 40 times aren’t important, but I think they are very important for DBs and home run hitting WRs. It is possible to have a slow 40 time as a WR (4.5) and still be fast if what you specialize in is afterburner speed, ala Jerry Rice and Sidney Rice. Corners need to be fast and quick. No bad 40 times need apply.

  41. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – You and I have debated all of this for a while. I agree that Whitner and Goldson are both SS and we’re missing a true free safety. I think that has a lot to do with our secondary being ranked so poorly. But you don’t change it up again in free agency. The 49ers need some continuity back there. The tandem of Goldson and Whitner proved to be a good one in the playoffs. Both players played great. If Goldson leaves that means you either use a high draft pick on another safety who could turnout to be the next Taylor Mays, or you dip into free agency once again and start from scatch, building chemistry with Whitner and the rest of the team. I think the best move is to use two or even three mid to late round draft choices on secondary players who (one) could develop into a replacement for Whitner (only two more years remaining on his contract).
    I don’t buy that signing Whitner to a three year deal, but only offering Goldson one, shows the 49ers’ thinking. When the 49ers’ heard Goldson was negotiating with the Patriots, and that Whitner was almost a Cincinatti Bengal, the 49ers had to do something or their back end was about to be Media Williams and Reggie Smith. Ouch. The 49ers were stuck between a rock and hard place, and offering Whitner a bigger, longer deal was their best option. Remember, Whitner was almost a Bengal, and the 49ers basically stole him from Cinci with an offer Cinci didn’t match.
    I like your argument about Carlos Rogers being a Champ Bailey type. There are other cornerbacks around the league like Bailey. Daryl Green, Charles Woodson, Walt Harris, etc. Rogers could no doubt be one of those guys, and Rogers wants to be here. I’m not saying I would just let Rogers walk, but if it’s a choice between Goldson or Rogers, I’d pick Goldson. Hopefully, the 49ers re-sign both players.

  42. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I think the 49ers should use their top three or four picks on offensive players, and I wouldn’t rule out drafting another quarterback. Kirk Cousins may drop to the 3rd round. The game is now franchise quarterbacks – regardless if the Harbaughs know it. The last 9 Super Bowls winners have been named Brady, Rogers, Brees, Manning or Roethlisberger. You need great quarterback play. I don’t know that Kaep or Tolzien have the type of skills necessary to compete for Super Bowls – but I admit I haven’t seen both play enough to say emphatically (like I do about Alex Smith), that they can’t compete for Super Bowls.
    QB Kirk Cousins has some really nice intangibles. He can throw on the run (something Alex cannot do), he has a quick release (something Alex does not have), and he can drive the ball – meaning he can throw a twenty yard out by putting his shoulder behind it and making the long throw (something, again, Alex can’t do). He also can throw some beautiful touch passes. There’s nothing wrong with creating some quarterback competition for the backup qbs.
    Mohamed Sanu, Alshon Jeffery and Kirk Cousins with our top three picks, with late round DBs, RBs and TEs also picked would be a great draft as far as I’m concerned.

  43. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Berger – I feel the same way about Jeffery. I want to see his 40 time.
    Sanu has a some clips where he’s clearly the fastest player on the field, but Rutgers isn’t exactly a powerhouse playing elite competition.

  44. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Ideally it would be great to keep them both Albert. I question the number it would take to keep our Roster intact.
    Baalke and Staff have now proven to the rest of the FA Class that SF is a contender again also. Like the Glory Years, FA may provide some ‘Discounts’ to have a shot at the prize.
    We’ll see how the chips fall. Alex should be retained on a budget also. Load his offer with incentives and don’t break the Cap Budget to keep him. He and Carlos talk favorably of staying put so, we’ll see where their respective numbers are next month.

  45. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    WRs like Garcon and Bowe along with Reggie Wayne could improve our Roster too.
    Sanu is being credited with a 40 in the 4.5 range right now. He’s a gifted kid, a leaper. Not a burner. Add him in Rd 2 if you can, I don’t use a 1 on him.
    We won’t get a sniff of Alshon and, I compare TE Ladarius Green to him anyway. Green might actually be a better weapon in this Offense.
    We absolutely need to improve this O at all costs.

  46. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Laurent Robinson is the FA WR we want. 4.38 40, gets open, nice hands. Can probably get in week two.

  47. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – That’s why you have to have a great quarterback. Players who truly want to play for a Super Bowl contender, so they can highlight their wares on the biggest stage, don’t play for Super Bowl “pretenders.” Once you’re a bona fide contender, it’s a recruiting tool and you can get discounts (on some players – not all) because of it.
    I also agree Jeffery will be long gone, but I think the 49ers should consider trading up to grab him. That guy is a savage – he’s taller with a big body to shield the ball from the defender. Can’t coach that. The 49ers moved up to grab Anthony Davis (awesome move), and they moved up to grab Kaep, why not move up to grab Jeffery?

  48. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If they feel he’s the answer I’m sure they’ll make the effort.
    We’ll see how the plot thickens once they address the pending FAs and we see some prospects at the Combines.
    I’d do some homework on Alson before pulling a move like Atlanta did for Julio.

  49. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I still think this WR Class is deep enough to provide some talent after the 1st Rd however.
    The beauty with the Rookie Cap is not getting handcuffed with crazy salaries but you still need to improve the Roster production.
    No guarantees with a WR. They typically take a minimum of 2 years to acclimate to the speed of the Pro game.
    I just think it’s too risky.
    The position is definitely in need of an overhaul no matter how Baalke goes after it.
    I see a vet FA and probably 2 Rookie additions in the form of a WR and TE.

  50. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, I could see a move up to get Jeffery being just as expensive as Jones. The only time I like the “trade up,” is when a player has slipped, he’s under appreciated, and nobody knows what you’re doing. It wouldn’t be tough to see what the 49ers were doing if Jeffery was still on the board and Baalke was calling, and the league would leverage Baalke’s attempt. Generally, I agree – Jeffery will be gone, but that’s the type of receiver I want. Big, tall jumper who can out-position for rebounds.

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think you’ll need to keep an eye on Ladarius Green.
    I’m going to try to see the Sr Bowl game this week myself.
    He’s on the South Roster and I’m hoping to get a look at him myself. His Bio is pretty solid.
    6’6″ 237 and has great hands.

  52. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    My FS Markelle Martin is also on the South Roster.

  53. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll do that. I watched his highlight on YouTube and I’ll watch him in the Senior Bowl and at the combine.
    One other thing just came to mind that’s a separate issue. Steve Young used to say, “Alex Smith needs to learn to throw receivers open.” I wholeheartedly agree. Bill Walsh used to say, “You need superior athletes on defense because the offense knows where the ball is going.” Put those two quotes together. If Smith and his receiver is on the same page, and Smith finds the single coverage by going through his progressions quickly (something I’m not convinced he can do), Smith should be able to quickly find the man coverage and place the ball where only the receiver can grab it. That’s what Steve Young was preaching, and it’s something Alex Smith has never been able to do. All these people saying, “The receivers didn’t get open in the NFC Championship game,” aren’t telling the entire story to protect Alex Smith. The entire story is that inevitably there were one-on-one matchups, and Alex Smith didn’t find them or exploit them by throwing a receiver open. One pass for 3 yards to a wide receiver is god awful quarterback play. No excuse for that one.

  54. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He got Vernon twice, likely because they’ve worked together longer.
    I know what you’re saying and agree with the sentiment.
    Our problem is a chemistry thing at WR.
    Josh and Delanie are in tune with Alex to some degree but in this 1st year under Harbaugh everyone was on a different learning curve.
    A full Camp and hopefully, a cohesive Coaching Staff will make this Offense that much more formidable in the Fall.
    Alex held the ball a little too long several times on Sunday.
    Pressure of weather,(a pass rush), in a big game or whatever, he still isn’t quick enough to pull the trigger when his targets are in tight windows.
    He missed Kyle and Delanie badly on deep middle routes. He’s got a long way to go.
    All that says to me is, get him at the right price and let him and Harbaugh continue to improve his game.
    Brady didn’t have WRs early in his career either.

  55. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I wonder if Ziegler gets a shot to return in the Spring?
    He and Alex had some chemistry together in the old regimes’ Offense.
    Wonder if Ziegler couldn’t handle the WCO?

  56. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    We’re going on year 8 with the excuses.
    List of things Alex can’t do well:
    1.) Throw on the run downfield.
    2.) Extend the play, moving up, then laterally (connected to #1).
    3.) Pull the trigger fast (quick release)
    4.) Be consistently accurate
    5.) Go through his progessions quickly and reset his feet.
    6.) Throw receivers open
    7.) Avoid sacks

    Alex isn’t going to get any better at this stuff. Alex is Alex. He’s in year 8. I don’t buy the “give him another year because he’ll have a full camp.” Next year it will be, “Give him a full year with Sanu and whatever other tools the 49ers get in the draft.” If the 49ers want to burn another year with Alex, that’s fine. To me, it’s stomachable now because Alex did play well against the Saints. But there are so many excuses for Alex and what if, after all the excuses are gone, he still isn’t getting it done? Do we then just accept it as part of the process, or do we look back at careers that could have been championship careers – guys like Justin Smith and Frank Gore? In my opinion, Jim and John Harbaugh both need to make finding a franchise quarterback their number one priority this off season. I doubt John will do it, but I bet the Harbaugh / qb free agent search is full of drama this off season and draft.
    Alex played great in the Saints’ game, but he was horrible in the Giants’ game. You have to throw receivers open. Blame the weather, blame the receivers, blame the play calling, blame the offensive line… but Alex was horrible in the Giant game. To win Super Bowls, your quarterback has to be capable of stringing three or four great games together.
    I’ve always said, Jim Harbaugh is one competitive mother. And his comments about Alex Smith and his free agents in general were very, very interesting yesterday. I believe Alex Smith is worth 4 million dollars per year. I don’t believe, if he hits the free agent market, he’ll have many suitors. Let’s just wait and see….

  57. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Jim Harbaugh and Trent Baalke would be smart to force Alex Smith to test the free agent market like they did with Goldson. I’d love to hear about the teams that were interested in Alex Smith and what they were willing to pay him. “Peanuts! Get your peanuts, here.”

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He can be had for minimal coin. I wouldn’t back up a Brinks truck for him, no way.
    He’s only holding the slot for kaep or whomever earns the starters’ job down the road.
    There are 2 guys on the Arkansas Team that fly and make plays at WR.
    I already mentioned Joe Adams and others have mentioned Jarius Wright.
    Either guy would be a nice addition.
    They are almost identical in size and speed.
    Alex could probably not overthrow them deep, both guys are listed as sub 4.4

  59. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    What would Baalke do if QB RTannehill is sitting on the board at Pick 30 in April?

  60. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He played under Mike Sherman of former GB Packer/WCO fame.

  61. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    NFL Network started showing the Senior Bowl practices yesterday
    and will again for the rest of the week. Yesterday they showed the South offense with Weeden, Foles and Lindley. If you can deal with Weeden’s age he wouldn’t be a bad risk in the 3rd round.
    Foles did not look good. Lindley
    might suprise.
    They said earlier that Kellen Moore also looked mediocre.
    Will form further judgements after watching the practices.

  62. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Tannehill is not a first round talent. I follow Big 12 Football and he’s only the 4th best QB in the conference. RG3, Weeden and Landry Jones were superior.
    Note that Ray Sherman got canned
    at the end of the year and Aggie QBs don’t translate to the NFL. Ask Dallas about Stephen McGee.

  63. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I thought McGee was a decent back-up in Dallas. If I were the coach there I would not go with Romo, if possible, and McGee is a QB that should get a decent look. The kid looked great in pre-season.

  64. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Romo puts up big numbers with that great WR corps they have but he is the QB with the best WRs that did not make the play-offs. Might be time for McGee.
    BTW, did I mention I want WR Laurent Robinson from that team?

  65. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- With Jones and Barkely staying in school a qb like Tannehill might move to the first round. The QBs that could go 1st that would not have are Foles and Tannehill. Weeden will benefit but he might have been a 1st rounder anyway.
    I really liked Tannehill until I started to notice he couldn’t close out a game. He struggled in the clutch.

  66. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Guarantee, please explain.
    Goldson contract offer $35 mil
    pls provide link to confirm.
    Your contention that Ginn is best receiver on team with zero TD passes and 220 yds total?
    Now you’re back to bashing Alex Smith???

    THat’s why you know nothing and have ZERO creditbility and respect.
    Too much BS and lies. You keep dodging when caught up in your lies Pinata Boy. All Day 24/7

  67. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    A&M has two receivers Jeff Fuller Jr that everyone knows about but has slipped and Ryan Swope who is in the Welker/Amedola/Shipley/Cruz slot receiver that just gets open.

    Tannehill has only been a college QB for One and a half years as he started out as a WR and was moved.
    He’s raw and his challenge might be reading defenses because of his inexperience. I think Weedens age drops him down at least one round if not two.

    I also really like Brandon Boykin
    as a CB/KR. This guy has so much athletic ability. If he’s there in the second round you take him.
    Like his hit of the screen for a safety (second play of highlights_

  68. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Matt Maiocco and Brian Billick have speculated that Alex Smith is worth 8 to 11 million dollars per year.
    The 49ers should do one thing – let Alex Smith test the open market. I want to see the teams line up.

  69. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Berger,
    I agree with you about Tony Romo. The Cowboys should move on. Problem is, Jerry Jones is the GM. You should checkout Kirk Cousins.
    And one question for you that I know you won’t answer. Who do you think will have a better career over the next three years – Matt Flynn or Alex Smith?

  70. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Brian Billick NFL Head Coach who’s won a Super Bowl

    Matt Maiocco respected beat writer for 49ers. Over 15 years as a sports journalist.

    Spitty laughing stock of all blogs
    thinks he knows football but in fact is posing as a know it all
    who lies and make ridiculous statements and never holds himself accountable. Also has to constantly change identity because of his BS.

    Who of these 3 should we trust and believe???

  71. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Now you’re discharging your usual sputum.
    Just like 3 years ago you were saying the same thing about Kolb.

    3 years later you change identity and conveniently have the memory lapse to cover your ass.

  72. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Alex getting 8-11 million sounds about right to me. I would sign him to about 8 and give reachable incentives to 11 or 12 so that extra money doens’t count toward this year’s cap. I would think the biggest incentives would be playing time and reaching the play-offs.
    IMO, he gets at least 10 mil per yr in FA.

  73. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s just wait and see. Let him test the market. Oh, and, who is it that’s going to pay Alex Smith 8 million? What team? Just so I know?

    Berger – who has the better career over the next three years – Matt Flynn or Alex Smith?

  74. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Stinky- I very much like Flynn, but I already have a play-off QB that has good chemistry with the coach. I’ll defer to what Harbaugh wants.
    I knew Kolb was not good, I posted it last year. I feel much better about Flynn. I also feel very good about having Alex as our QB. I don’t care much for Cousins. He is tough, but just too incosistent.

  75. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Seahawks, Browns, Dolphins, Redskins.
    These are the teams that currently need a starting qb (I like McCoy, but the Browns have said it’s not his job).
    Matt Flynn will probably go to one of those teams. Who knows if the Colts situation will throw another starting quarterback on the market, removing another need team. If the Colts take Luck and trade Manning to the Seahawks (just picking a team), that leaves two teams left in the entire NFL who COULD be interested in Alex Smith. But then there’s also the draft that could bring in three new quarterback starters besides Luck in Robert GIII, Foles and Tan.
    Do you see what I’m getting at? Lack of demand drives the price tag down on Alex Smith.
    In addition, what team with a defensive coordinator is going to say, “Yeah, we saw Singletary and Nolan struggle with Smith. We know Alex needs a Harbaugh to compete. No thanks, we aren’t interested.”
    The 49ers should let Alex Smith test the market and come back with his tail between his legs – Alla Dashon Goldson.

  76. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Why is it important to you to know Flynn or Smith? You are generally wrong about most everything you talk about and now you choose a three year “I told you” event because you are trying to be right about something after that NO game and guarantee and Kolb. I guess this little bravado buys you three years to be wrong again while acting like a know-it-all. In the mean time, you’ll find many other things to be wrong about.
    I’ll take Smith if he is with Harbaugh.

  77. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    And yes, I understand that Peyton Manning isn’t going to the Browns or a bottom dweller team. If Manning plays at all, he’ll go to a team with a solid offensive line that’s already established like the Jets. That might put Sanchez on the market or the bench. Either way, though, there are four or five teams with qb needs, and five or six quarterbacks with starting potential about to hit the open market or draft that are better than Alex Smith with less baggage. I think the 49ers will give Alex Smith a 4 million per year deal.

    ~ Let Alex Smith test the open market ~

  78. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    McCoy doesn’t have enough arm strength to be consistent in the NFL.
    Flynn goes to the Dolphins, that is where his OC went. If his OC doesn’t want him what does that tell you? He goes to the Dolphins.

  79. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Flawed logic. What if Flynn doesn’t want to play for a luke warm fan base in Miami?

  80. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    What if Flynn wants to go to a better organization? Just because the Dolphins are trying to lineup to recruit Flynn doesn’t mean that’s where Flynn is going. Flynn could spurn the Dolphins and those crying damaged goods (you) could be missing the point of what really happened during negotiations.

  81. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    What if nobody gives a rat’s ass about the life & times of Matt Flynn? Or his pimp?

  82. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Flynn did well in Philbon’s system. The fans in Miami would be very happy with that. If he doesn’t go to Miami it is for one of two reasons. Either the coach and QB don’t care to work together, or Flynn gets floored with a big contract Miami doesn’t want to match. It would be a big gamble to pay an unproven QB that kind of money. Remember, you wanted Kolb last year.

  83. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Guards, tackles, and secondary. Can’t get enough of ’em. I have another opinion which Reno can no doubt guess, but I’ll pass and only say, “Hmmm, just a little neck injury?”
    Meanwhile, John Elway has guaranteed St. Tim the QB job for next season – up to and including the first day of mini-camp. Not that anyone cares here, but the Tebow controversy would be fascinating for me no matter where it played out (actually possibly more interesting in Jones or Snyderland).

  84. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    From Eric Branch: “Brian McIntyre of Football Outsiders projects the franchise tag for cornerbacks at around $10.8 million. For safeties, the tag will be about $6.4 million.”
    This is another reason Goldson should be the 49ers’ top priority. Leverage. The higher the franchise tag amount, the lower the leverage.

  85. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Your silence to my questions and rebuttals is deafening.
    As earlier stated I guess you’re just going to stand there and bleed.
    When your BS is exposed and you have no creditbility or respect,
    this is what happens Pinata Boy.

  86. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Regarding Goldon’s 2012 contract, the 49ers did offer Goldson 5 years for 25 million during last year’s season. I don’t know about the guaranteed money. Paying Goldson 6.4 for one year under a franchise tag leaves Goldson bitter and without the security of a long-term deal. It’s not ideal, but it’s also a pay raise. Look at what happened with Franklin. He was franchised and then walked. But what it did was give the 49ers another year to plan for his position, and Franklin needed to stay motivated to get that next contract. I’d be willing to bet if the 49ers mentioned the franchise tag option to Goldson’s agent, Goldson would sign something around the previously offered contract. I bet they were squabbling over guaranteed money. The 49ers should up their end of guaranteed money for Goldson. Goldson and Whitner were huge in the playoffs, and the 49ers have no depth at safety.

  87. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Well, this is kind of unpleasant.

    Something to remember the next time we see them.

  88. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Colts just named Chuck Pagano as their HC.
    Seeley stays with Niners so far.

    FYI Senior Bowl Practice now live on NFL Network.

  89. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    omg BULLIT

    what’s the day and date of the senior bowl this year ?

  90. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Senior Bowl Saturday Jan 28
    4pm ET/1pm PT from Mobile, AL

  91. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yes Bullit I’ve been watching the Sr Bowl Practices.
    I want to see the game as well, when the bullets fly for real.
    I’m impressed with OG Cordy Glenn and of course my pass catchers, Ladarius Green and Joe Adams.
    Keep an eye on CBs Janoris Jenkins and Dwight Bentley along with FS Markelle Martin.
    In my travels around the research circles, ‘Bama LB Dont’a Hightower is getting my attention as a possible option for Pick 30 as well.

  92. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I still like taking Crick if he’s available when the Niners draft.
    Also really like Lamar Miller and would use that pick on him if Crick is gone. Of course things might change after Senior Bowl and the combine.

    The WR that looked like he was going at warp speed was Patrick Edwards from U of Houston until he pulled something. That guy was coming out of breaks full tilt leaving the dbs behind.
    These days there are little suprises and sleepers.

    Mayock has the WR Weber from Wake Forest as one of his top 5 receivers. Nobody here mentions
    Floyd from Notre Dame as an option.

  93. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yes Bullit, Edwards was looking smooth. Floyd will be gone early Rd 1, I’m also impressed with the RB from Boise, Doug Martin.
    Crick might not even go Rd 1, will be interesting. This Draft Class is deep at DL/WR/DB. All areas of need for us.

  94. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I think the 49ers should go wide receiver in the first round and wide receiver in the second round. I mean, with a great offensive line, two years under Harbaugh, and great receivers, what excuses will the Alex Smith lovers have after next year? Remove the excuses, and he’ll still fail to bring us Super Bowls…. then new excuses will emerge.

  95. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think you mean WR Givens from Wake?
    CB from GA Boykin moves well also.
    My feeling is, if we lose Goldson, Markelle Martin could be a nice option as the Top Rated FS.
    Obviously we all try to predict from web info and occassional game clips but, it’s fun to play along.
    I also though Ladarius Green moved better than Jeff Fuller from TX A&M.

  96. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Albert they might go WR early, who knows what they’ve got in mind?
    Alshon appears to have mixed reviews between Mid 1st and Mid 2nd which concerns me. I don’t know how much experience he’s had.
    We likely will look to add a Vet FA and possibly a WR or 2 from this Draft. This WR Group is very deep and should afford some Mid to Late Rd options.
    I just don’t see any WR making an impact from the College Level to the Pros in any timely fashion.
    At Pick 30 we could see some value at depth positions too. If a top rated LB or OL prospect is there who knows?

  97. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I’d go WR, WR – and avoid the free agent market all together. The 49ers have shown they can’t find a good free agent wide receiver if their lives depended on it. It’s really important to draft a homegrown wide receiver (or in this case two) because wide receivers can be total team cancers. Harbaugh will coach ’em on how to be pros. Draft two, forget free agency. Remove all Alex Smith excuses.

  98. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We’ve already gone the Crabtree route and that isn’t exactly providing any huge returns.
    I’d suspect Josh will be retained and I hold hope for Bogan and Kyle.
    Washburn remains on the Roster along with Swain.
    The Roster also shows a WR from NM State, Kyle Nelson? 6’3″ 240? Kinda sounds like a LB?
    Alex isn’t the long term answer at this point either.
    I’d be surprised to see them offer anything close to 8M/yr for his services.
    I’d prefer a 2yr 12M/ with incentives and option a 3rd yr.
    It’s a curious situation with Peyton too. If he gets cleared medically and became an option I’d think seriously about bringing him and Reggie Wayne/Pierre Garcon onboard for some stability while they groom their eventual replacements.
    Let Peyton show CKaep what it means to play the position like a Pro.

  99. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I think the guaranteed money in the Crabtree deal was something like $17 million. Crabtree has played for three years now, so his guaranteed money is basically up, which means he’s Nate Clements II. I think Crabtree grew a lot this year, and I also think Crabtree could do a lot more with a better quarterback, but he isn’t worth 5 million a year – particularly if now the 49ers can draft two wide receivers in the first and second rounds and get both of their salaries for what would amount to less than one Micheal Crabtree contract (because of the rookie salary cap). This is why I think the 49ers should draft two receivers in the first and second rounds. It’s good business.
    The 49ers reduced Ginn – wrongly, I think. I can foresee the 49ers either cutting Crabtree or reworking his contract. However, I believe that if the 49ers say they want to reduce Crabtree, he’ll do what he’s always done – point to the quarterback. If the 49ers ask for a reduction in price, cutting down Crabtree to fair market, why wouldn’t Crabtree just bail and go play for a quarterback who can throw the ball? I mean, a wide receiver’s earning power is directly tied to the quarterback’s ability, right? So if that’s the case, and the 49ers try to reduce Crabtree to fair market for his stats, I could see him hitting the open market and taking less to play for a guy like Brees, Rogers, Brady, Roethlisberger or a Manning. After he had more success with those superior quarterbacks, Crabtree could look for another huge deal. Whether he gets it up for debate, but Crabtree could have played his last game in San Francisco.
    And regarding Kaep, that’s the thing I’m worried about. Colin Kaepernick is learning from Alex Smith. That’s like being taught to play the piano from a man with no fingers. “Kid, you’re on your own.”

  100. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Peyton Manning needs a great offensive line. I didn’t watch many Colts’ games this year, but if they’re rebuilding, it stands to reason that the new coaching staff and offensive line will have some glitches to workout – glitches that Manning can’t afford to play through with his neck injury. If that’s the case, the Colts should trade Manning. If they trade him, they should tear-up his contract and use the franchise tag on him, then trade him. Peyton’s new contract with his new team would have to be incentive laidened because of his injury and his new team wanting assurances he can withstand the heat.
    Then there’s the compensation the Colts would want. The Colts would do the right thing by Peyton and trade him to a contender with a good offensive line, but the question still is, what’s the price? I wouldn’t pay two first rounders, or what the price was for Carson Palmer. I would, however, package up later picks. I’d trade a third and fifth this year, and a second and fourth next year – something like that. Something that eased the burden and also helped the Colts rebuild. That’s another reason I think the Colts will trade Manning – for the additional picks in a now certain rebuilding process. Do the 49ers have the cap room to go after Manning? Yes. Do they have the offensive line to protect Manning? Yes. Do they have the coaching staff to get Manning caught up? Yes. Is Harbaugh stuck on stupid with Alex Smith? We’ll see.

  101. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d make whatever deal I could for Crabtree.
    Get a pick and move on.
    Peyton holds the cards on his current deal. Indy has to make the decision on him before FA starts.
    They likely part ways and he’s free to seek employment again.
    Problem is, the health concerns. He may be too risky to sign at any price.
    If healthy, make the move and let Alex seek employment elsewhere.
    This Draft class should net us great depth in the Mid Rds, we need picks 1 & 2 to start and contribute right away.
    Hard to say what positions they might be but, I’d lean toward DL and DB.
    FA adds could make the difference in the WR area with the younger Draftees to be added as ‘Pupils’.
    We could lose Brooks/Goldson/Rogers and we need to have replacements in the fold for continued success.
    Larry Grant is a find and, Parys could be gone too. Chilo and Shawntae are pretty much history as far as I’m concerned.
    Baalke and Harbaugh will make smart decisions on the costs, as they did last year with Goldson and Aubrayo.
    Using a FTag doesn’t foster a competitive advantage like a 1year Contract did this year. It’s a guarantee to piss off a player who wants a long term deal. See Logan Mankins from the Pats. He eventually got his deal but plenty of animosity was created.
    I agree that we could add 2 WRs this year, just have to disagree on using the 1st 2 picks to get them.
    We’ll see the plan as we approach FA and the Draft.
    Should be interesting.

  102. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    We could probably get a 4th for the Crab.
    And that is probably about all he is worth. J.J. Stokes, Part Two. Except J.J. wasn’t a diva and was probably more productive at times.

  103. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I think a lot of you are having a knee jerk reaction to Crabtree and are not thinking this through.
    You don’t trade a starter unless you have a viable replacement for him. The key is he’s still starting for you which means the coaches feel he’s the best you have.
    The problem here is to get rid of Crabtree you are elevating Kyle Williams, Swain or Ginn or Morgan (if you sign them) to be your #1 and #2.
    How soon you forget when we had Arnaz Battle as our #1 and Bryan Gilmore as #2. I’m not ready to go back to those days especially just to obtain a 4th rd pick. I think if you ask Frank Gore he’ll tell you part of his suceess is Crabtree’s blocking.
    But then I have never believed Crabtree to be a diva like some.

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If the Colts trade Manning it will be for at least what the Bengals got for Palmer if not more. This isn’t fantasy talk radio where we get the HOF QB for very little and he wins five more Super Bowls for us. Stay away from the wacky smokes if you think you’ll get a “healthy” Manning for less than 2 #1s and more. And to think that Manning is going to give you a discount for his services, I say again put down the bong. Again the fantasy fanboy thinks he’ll take $8mil a year. Dream on.
    Manning is the 2012 version of the Brett Favre quick fix tease.
    End result for the Vikings is the 3rd pick of the draft. A team with Adrian Peterson, Harvin and Jared Allen.

  105. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    P. Manning won’t get traded. The Colts have said as much. He either stays and gets his $28 mill, or he’s a free and clear to sign with anyone throwing cash at him.
    Getting him would be a HUGE risk for any team. He still wants another multi year multi millon dollar deal. For a guy who may not make it through 4 games.

  106. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    In other words, Indy lets him go. They aren’t going to take the risk.

  107. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Not with Luck as his successor.

  108. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Rumor that Schiano to become head coach of Bucs
    Does this suprise you?

  109. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Off topic but interesting on a slow sports day

    The other football. kiiiiick!!!

  110. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Forgot to mention there’s a new post. This thread’s probably better, though. As Chuck would say, Any who…

  111. Ebonie BillopsNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t think he’s ugly… I just don’t find him as attractive as, say, bocamuffin.

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2021 Schedule
09/12 - 10:00 AM @ DET
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10/03 · 1:05 PM v SEA
10/10 · 1:25 PM @ AZ
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1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
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