Perception Vs Reality

The 49ers have finally introduced their new coaching staff. Most of them can now disappear into the fine print of the team’s hierarchy, until such time as we need to haul them out to blame them for one thing or another. Good luck, guys. Keep your resumes current. This could be a very temporary assignment.

The ones who remain visible are HC Jim Tomsula, OC Geep Chryst, and DC Eric Mangini. It would be nice if we could hide these guys in the fine print, too, but alas, not so.

Legend has it that the 1989 49ers wanted to prove they were winners even without HC Bill Walsh, and they embarked on an Eff You year for the ages, roaring through the regular season and slaughtering everyone in sight in the playoffs. Next year’s 49er team will need to channel that team, in spirit if not in talent, because they won’t get much help from this coaching staff.

Of course, that 1989 team had a few advantages on this year’s squad. For one, HC George Seifert was a very good DC before taking the reins. He had been running one side of the team for as long as Walsh ran the other side.

For another, that team had a QB who knew what he was doing out there, two WRs who were outstanding, along with a great pass catching TE, powerful RB/FB tandem, a good pass blocking O-line, and an OC named Mike Holmgren.

The current team can’t match that team in any category. Except perhaps heart, and that’s pretty doubtful, too. We’ll see.

One guy who’s looking forward to next year is Anquan Boldin. With Michael Crabtree gone, Boldin will, after twelve years in the league, at long last be the primary WR on his team. With a one-read QB, that means a lot of balls coming Anquan’s way. Even if he’s triple-covered.

Steve Young says the Niners have a Super Bowl quality roster, but the jury’s out on the new coaches getting them there. Not exactly a startling observation, since everyone in the league shares it. Even the Vegas bookies still have the team listed as a semi-viable SB contender.

But how much of the SB quality roster perception is due to Jim Harbaugh and his coaches, versus actual player excellence. IOW, is this team closer to the 6-10 team Harbaugh inherited than it is to the 68% winning machine it became under Harbaugh? The players often bragged about how good they were, even as they failed to prove it on the field.

So which team will we see this year? The pre-Harbaugh 6-10 underachiever model? Or a healthy team that methodically resumes its winning ways?




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99 comments on “Perception Vs Reality
  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Because they’re in the NFC West the Niners have the third toughest schedule in the NFL in 2015
    http://deadspin.com/which-nfl-teams-have-the-hardest-and-easiest-2015-sched-1685440914

  2. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    14 games against NFC West, NFC North, and AFC North. Not an easy schedule at all.

  3. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “That was the day I stopped following the NY Mets.
    I love the 9ers like I loved the NYM.”

    From NJ, last thread.

    That is my fear too = that the bone headed moves will result in losses that kill the hope again and love for the team.

    Hate to have the Niners become a ‘ghost’ of sour memories.

  4. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    That and the Talent Gap spells rebuilding. Ooo, I’m disagreeing with Steve Young again. I’m so hurt I could cry.

  5. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t think there was a fractured locker room but clearly the fans are split. To be determined on the field if hope is justified.

    Or not

  6. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil that’s the risk a Pro team faces when it doesn’t improve the product.
    Guys like former NY Yankees Owner George Steinbrenner poured millions into their brand, as too did Eddie D prior to the Cap.

    Said it here many times, I despise guys like Jerruh, because they feel a need to have their egos stroked.
    I don’t put Jed in that boat just yet, however, I don’t get the need to Tweet nonsense as he did this past season.

    Put your efforts into the product.
    Don’t speak for ‘every’ fan.
    Be an Owner, improve your product by all means available.

    If you build it, we will come 😀

    If you undermine it, diminish it, or just plain screw up a good thing, the risk of losing the ‘Faithful’ becomes very real.

  7. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    S Young was a little more outspoken about the Niners (Ray Mac) back last year. Now the picture is filling out re: media sabotage led by the owner’s kid and we find the supposed locker room problems were non-existent = he’s now worried the team has been blown up from on high. He’s not so sure about the future of his old team.

    It’s a big concern. Join the club

  8. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep NJ as bad as dumping the winning coaches was, the greater issue is fan loyalty. Wins solve that. Losses coupled with odd moves on high kill loyalty slowly, painfully.

    Hoping for the best, preparing for…reality

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s the bottom line. As a Niner fan you feel like The Niner FO is selling you snake oil.
    Trying to tell you the changes are for the better is a tough pill to swallow because clearly it’s not. The fact that they hired their third and fourth choices shows you the dysfunction.

    Key for me would be convincing Gore and Justin Smith to come back.
    Making a splash by spending on a difference maker in Free Agency would also show they are reloading rather than rebuilding.

  10. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil with the current Cap structure in the NFL, spending money on Players isn’t the way to succeed, as it was for Uncle Eddie.
    GMs are the architects, the Draft is the lifeblood.

    In a way, that’s where Jerruh fails miserably.
    He thinks he can be the defacto Executive/GM/One Man Show.
    At least for us, Jed doesn’t approach that level of stupidity.

    I’d guess, Trent felt he and Jim could handle a joint partnership on the talent needs.
    It appears that didn’t work too well.

    Whatever turned this arrangement upside down remains a debate for the ages.
    Jed made his decision, he lives with it until things improve.
    I don’t argue that there needs to be harmony between HC/GM.

    An Owner can, and should, remove himself from that relationship.
    If it got that bad between Trent and Jim, that’s likely where the turmoil festered.

    Very likely Jed couldn’t mediate a truce.
    He stuck with Trent obviously so, we’ll see how that goes in the months ahead.
    With Gamble back, it at least offers another option, other than Jed, to go to if Tomsula/Trent fail to succeed.

    The last thing I’d want to see is Jed trying to be Jerruh.

  11. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula is the weak link in this chain now.
    I’m sure he knows it too.

    If he and Trent can work well together, devising a scheme, acquiring the talent to run it, it should go smoothly.

    The salary Cap leveled the playing field for all 32 teams.
    An Owner has little influence on the roster because of it.
    Paraag appears to have done an excellent job managing the Cap.
    It’s all about wait and see now.

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I read an article about big name free agents and predictions on where they would ends up.
    The author predicted that the Raiduhs would sign Randall Cobb, Julius Thomas and Suh. That would make them the major player in free agency.
    On the radio they were discussing Marshawn Lynch and if Seattle releases him the feeling was if he wanted to continue playing he might do so in Oakland.
    Such moves could turn the Raiduhs around and make them a contender and a team on the rise.

  13. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle ain’t gonna release Lynch. He may very well leave, but it’ll be his call. I floated oak town half an hour after the Super Bowl.

    Could be. They are finally getting their shit together after years of dog meat results.

    What’s tough to swallow is this constant whining about the changes. Move on already. I’m sick to death of the rehash ad infinitum.

    Bullitt/Phil, do you deny Harbaugh wanted to coach at Michigan?

  14. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I hear ya Phil.
    Challenging as it is, I find solace in the fact that, we’re not the Cleveland Browns or, the NYJ.

    At least not yet 😀

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Contrary to your view Harbaugh would have been in great demand for any open head coaching spots in the NFL. If Chip Kelly could command $6.5 million coming out of Oregon, Harbaugh would easily get $7 mil plus.
    The Michigan option was there in 2011 but Harbaugh opted for the Niners. IIRC Michigan even sweetened the pot as did Stanford offering Harbaugh more than the Niners.

    If you think the Niners have upgraded their coaching staff on both sides of the ball that shows how much you know.
    Like I said don’t fix it if it ain’t broke.

  16. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Who cares? Respectability is fine. But aren’t we about winning it all?

    Did Harbaugh get it done? No. 4 years with a very talented team. All the whining about being undermined? Cry me a fricking river. This from a guy who admittedly thrives on turmoil.

    I certainly hope the offense is better. But the bar is pretty low in that regard.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuckles

    You ask me a question and I answer.
    because you don’t like the answer you come back with “who cares”.
    It seems that’s what trolls do.

  18. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Key for me would be convincing Gore and Justin Smith to come back.
    Making a splash by spending on a difference maker in Free Agency would also show they are reloading rather than rebuilding.”

    Agree this will be a key indicator of how next season is “supposed” to work out from FO POV. $100 million per year net and “Let’s cut player salaries” would send the same stinking message as “Let’s fire the winning coaches”.

    Not good

  19. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “…do you deny Harbaugh wanted to coach at Michigan?”

    After a mugging followed by a train wreck, yes you ‘want’ to go to the ER. Jimi knew he wouldn’t get mugged again over there by some punk ass child NFL type. Hendrix said he followed his heart in going HC at UM…after he was savaged by Niner brass for at least a year.

    But you want to blame the victim and continue the worship of St. York.

  20. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s be honest. Back in 2011 when Harbaugh was first hired if I told you the Niners would not only make the playoffs for the first time in 8 years but make it to 3 NFC Championship Games and a Super Bowl you would have sold your soul.
    You keep talking about how talented the roster was but Singletary could only manage to get 6 wins from that roster. Harbaugh improved the win total to 13 which is plus 7 games, a ridiculously huge increase.

    Some can’t face the fact that blunders by the QB resulting in turnovers cost us a Super Bowl victory and then another trip
    to the Super Bowl when we had a first and goal on the 5 yard line against the Seahags. Two blunders by Kyle Williams cost us a trip to the Super Bowl in year one.

    You can try to diminish Harbaugh’s accomplishments in his 4 years by trying to smear him but they cannot be tarnished.

    It took the Pats 10 years between Super Bowl wins. Belichik
    has his flaws but the owner believed in him and stuck it out and was rewarded.

    Unfortunately Harbaugh won’t get the chance to make another run and his coaching staff has been blown up.

  21. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Smeared? Tarnished? Do you cry yourself to sleep every night?

    Phil, Jim isn’t a baby. Or a child. Unlike Bullitt. Being the head coach entails a certain amount of head butting w/management. Some that he himself engineered.

    So spare me the tears, folks. Could Harbaugh have won with this team and coaching staff? I don’t think so. Give him a 4 year extension? I think not.

    He’s better off in college where his schtick sells better.

  22. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    We get it, Chuck. You think Tomsula and his staff give the Niners a better chance to “get it done” than Harbaugh and his staff.

  23. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuckles said this before the 2011 season

    “6-10, Skeebs. New coaches. New philosophy. A lot of new players. More of a remake didn’t happen due to the fact that there was a lockout. With cuts coming, there may be more new starters. But whatever. Call it what? A playoff push?
    .
    In other words, Skeebs, wait til the year after next.”

    ====

    Apparently you didn’t think the roster that Harbaugh inherited was that great. You are saying 3 years before the Niners make the playoffs.

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Yesterday the Aints hired John Morton to be their WRs coach and Dennis Allen to be a defensive assistant.

  25. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Nice inferrence there, skippy. I suppose you predicted an NFC Championship in 2011.

    What a dipshit,

  26. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    IIRC fumbduck, I had the Niners at 8-8 by the time the season started.

    But whatever. Post your stupid regurgitations here, as always.

  27. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuckles

    Call them stupid if you wish those are your words and the only reason I post is you beat people to death with them and suddenly disavow them when it turns out differently.

    Again your words but you said Harbaugh would take 3 years to just make it into the playoffs.
    Now how does that work when you’re lobbying to can him for not winning the Super Bowl after 4 years.
    How does that work ion your world?

  28. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, Harbaugh was a victim of his own success. If his success came slower he’d very well may still be here.

    I call them stupid because no one predicted what happened. Hindsight is 20/20.

    Harbaugh had a good team. He didn’t get it done and he pissed off everyone around him.

  29. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck thinks Tomsula and his staff give the Niners a better chance to “get it done” than Harbaugh and his staff.

  30. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners haven’t run a 4-3 since 2006. One thing is guaranteed and that is change.

  31. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    For a guy “sick to death” of it and declaring the topic closed many times, you have more to say about it than anyone else. And none of it based on anything but your conjecture.

    Is the topic closed on your blog? Or are you just sick to death of it where others’ opinions and pesky things like facts are involved?

  32. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    RT, every team runs so many multiple fronts nowadays it’s hard to be definitive with a base. I’m guessing we had three men with a hand on the ground in a front less than a third of the time. Maybe a little more under Nolan/Manusky but they were big in the 4-2 nickel fronts and changing it up then, too.

  33. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    We ran as much or more nickel than 3-4, but it’s still a big philosophical change

  34. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    RT, do you think Tomsula wants to go to a 4-3? Mangini’s a Parcells/Belichick 3-4 guy. IOW, more of a traditional 3-4 guy than Manusky or Fangio.

  35. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Dunno, just going by Internet rumors. The Niners’ current D personnel would seem to support the change, Borland coming out for the nickel.

  36. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m also seeing talk that Cowboy might retire. That again would make D-line a top priority. I want O-line first, but I don’t see much of anything for run/pass balanced guards, or guards of any stripe for that matter.

  37. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    “in the draft”. FA’s a different beast.

  38. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The NFL Combine Position Group Schedule per Matt Barrows

    Combine workout schedule:

    Friday, Feb. 20: Specialists, offensive linemen, tight ends

    Saturday, Feb. 21: Quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers

    Sunday: Feb. 22: Defensive linemen, linebackers

    Monday, Feb. 23: Defensive backs

  39. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d hope we try to fill the immediate needs through FA where possible and draft for the best player available all we can.

    Personally, I’d try to re-sign Iupati and go with the O-line as is. And I think we stay with the 3-4, with the two best inside linebackers in the game.

    I know the combine and pro days are where all the hype is but how much of it in shorts and speed shoes outweighs the book on the players while they were actually playing?

  40. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not 100% convinced about Patrick and Bowman. Patrick’s a HOF but clearly a step slower than his prime. Bowman’s a ? and will remain so until he demonstrates otherwise.
    Contingency planning is required.

  41. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh didn’t leave by choice. Michigan was his choice only after he was notified that he was a lame duck.

    I hope this puts to rest, once and for all, the myth repeated on here multiple times that Harbaugh left by choice:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/2/13/8036541/jim-harbaugh-49ers-fired-jed-york-michigan

  42. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You’re an optimist, RTF. If I know the Chuckster, the facts won’t slow him down at all. He’ll be repeating his Michigan blather in the future like it still had credibility.

  43. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No NoFear, Bullitt brought it up as usual.

    And, if I learned anything in his 4 years here, it’s that Harbaugh lies when it suits him. He lied about looking at Peyton Manning, he lied about Alex Smith being the QB when he got healthy, and he lied about other things. Some say this is where the rift in the locker room originated from.

    Coaches lie. Belichick, par calls, Walsh, they all fabricate shit. This is no different. He has no ties to this team any more and he can throw some gas on the situation.

    Sorry to burst your widdwe bubbles.

  44. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    See, RTF, didn’t take him but nine minutes to refute the facts by throwing out some more discredited bullshit.

  45. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh was fired after the second Seattle game. That’s been reaffirmed by more than one source, and Harbaugh now confirms it, too.

  46. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Is nine minutes a record?

  47. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Not since he started mumble-thumbing from his mobile phone.

  48. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Just so he doesn’t discover time travel. Then he could discount facts before they even happen!

  49. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    It is for you, RTF.

  50. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Discredit it then. What you choose to believe (rainbow ponies) and what I do equal the same thing.

    There’s conjecture enough for both sides. That you get all pussy when folks disagree is your deal.

  51. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Pissy, pussy, whatever.

    If the foo shits…

  52. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So you buy that Harbaugh went to Duke and hid in the bushes not to think about getting Manning, but to evaluate him? Gee, do you deny he went there?

    Smith would start when he got healthy until Harbaugh said it wasn’t about Smith’s health. Skeebers, thy name is gullible.

    Discredit this.

    I have some beachfront property in Reno for y’all.

  53. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    And the hits just keep on coming. Hahahaha!

  54. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    We saw the big jump in wins and attitude of players when Jimi came in. Now we have the new old guys coaching and it will interest me to see how much remains in this team of the old ‘can do’ spirit. Will the players buy into the new guys, Tommy’s boys? Go out and get it done on game day? Or collapse into pre-Hendrix mediocrity? Not an easy schedule in 2015.

    A lot will depend on them = their level of belief, faith that this is not going to be a step back. Confidence in the new coaches. In Balkey. Kap will need to lead the way on O. Can he? Can the new coaches get him up to speed in their schemes?

    We’ll see on the field. Meanwhile there’s the combine, draft, OTAs, training camp, FAs, etc. which for me are less meaningful. Of course there is some entertainment to be had from the odd stray troll devotee.

  55. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, that draft is meaningless Phil. Doesn’t mean shit. Neither does the upcoming FA period.

    It’ll be fun to see how long the St Jim prostelyzation goes on.

    What’s funny to me is if you guys are right, what will you do? Happily crow about how shitty the 49ers are. If I’m right? Well, I’ll bask in the knowledge that this team has the players and coaches to get it done. I mean the goal is the playoffs. That’s all Harbaugh could do.

  56. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuckles

    Now the goal is playoffs? Weren’t you and the other apologist Super Bowl or Bust guys? Why are you lowering your standards?

    You were crowing that Harbaugh deserved to get the ax because he didn’t win the Super Bowl.

    Again you try to spread a myth because you don’t check the facts. “Alex Smith said Harbaugh and general manager Trent Baalke came to see him to inform the quarterback they were going to pursue Manning.

    Obviously it was a little unexpected, but that’s part of the deal. This is free agency and this is the NFL, and those things happen,” Smith said.”
    ===
    If Alex Smith isn’t bothered why are you?

  57. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Before the start of the 2012 season, I listened to a radio interview of Knowshon Moreno. He was asked about Peyton coming to the Broncos and getting to play with him. Moreno, a cheerful and intelligent interview, was ecstatic and highly anticipatory of the season. But he then said something that has stuck with me. “But I understand that they could pick up AP and I’d be gone the next day.”

    If Alex can’t fathom why the Niners might pursue Peyton, then he is a moron and doesn’t understand the NFL is a business. $50 million says he isn’t and does.

  58. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Different priorities now, nimrod. To equal Harbaugh he needs to reach the playoffs.

    It isn’t about Alex, RTF. It’s about the HC lying to a room full of players.

    QUpte:

    On Sunday, an ESPN report surfaced that cracks in the relationship go as far back as 2012, when Harbaugh tried to lure free-agent quarterback Peyton Manning to the 49ers. Manning ultimately chose the Broncos, but it didn’t sit well some players, according to the report. The main issue was what Harbaugh told then-starter Alex Smith, who wanted answers at the time.

    Smith specifically asked Harbaugh about the 49ers’ interest in Manning and did not get an answer that matched the facts of the situation, in which Harbaugh flew to North Carolina to meet and work out Manning, the sources said.

    As one team source told ESPN, “that was the first big sign to the players that they couldn’t trust Jim.”

    Smith, who was later benched in favor of Colin Kaepernick in 2012 after suffering a concussion, couldn’t beat the 49ers on Sunday. The rumors around Harbaugh’s status among players have been making the rounds since the preseason.

  59. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Famous Quotes from guys Chuck admires:

    “If you can’t do it, Jim, I’ll get someone in here who can do almost as well as you did, maybe, hopefully, or not.”

    “This firing is mutual, Jim, and don’t you forget it.”

    “Jim just decided, after taking us to three title games and the Super Bowl, he wanted to accept the offer he turned down to come here. And we strongly encouraged him to take it”

    Who likes liars anyway? Maybe those guys who voted twice for Barry, but that’s all I can think of.

  60. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Lol NF is on a roll with the quips lately.

    Well he’s got to get ideas to prop up his blag somewhere. Where better than here where he can troll to hearts content and get plenty feedback? Use these to feed the rainbow pony unicorn folks in the “Hendrix done it” outback. Yeah Hendrix done it = 49-22-1. Pity York is a stinking liar.

    I wonder how much York paid for that one (1) article proporting to show some rift in the Niners locker room? Weak sauce that but we’re used to it Charles the First

  61. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuckles narrative that the benching of Alex Smith split the team apart is a weak straw man at best because . The first light breeze knocks the notion down because this divided team went on
    to the Raven 5 yard line with 3 plays to win a Lombardi and the following year to the Seahag 10 first and goal to get back into another Super Bowl.

    Keep floating that story of a divided team and i’ll get a laugh, or at least a chuckle out of your daily lame attempts
    at a foolish smear campaign.

  62. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kawakami asks Jed York if he’s the leak. Jed denies it.
    Kawakami does not believe Jed is being truthful and says so.
    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2015/02/13/unforgettable-undeniable-crystal-clear-jim-harbaugh-left-49ers-still-commands-story/

  63. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith gave an interview to Peter King (MMQB/SI) after leaving for the Chefs

    “On Jim Harbaugh

    Smith: Good coach. I think a lot of people make a big deal about lot of things, even about me and him. I’m still thankful for the opportunity he gave me a few years ago. My contract was up, and it would be so easy to go in a different direction. I remember going out and throwing with him and working out, before the lockout, he and I just playing catch, and all of a sudden it developed into a relationship and an opportunity. So I’m thankful for that to this day. That’s the honest truth. My career would be very different, and I know that, if I didn’t get that opportunity back then. I learned a lot of football.

    King: You’re not just saying that?

    Smith: I’m not, at all.

    On being benched last year

    Smith: I disagreed with it, and I disagreed with it 100 percent. I thought I should be playing. But it wasn’t my decision. I’ve been through enough, and I know that if you sit and dwell on things that are out of your control, you’re going to go crazy, and it’s not going to help you. I knew when the decision was made that at some point I was going to have an opportunity. I didn’t know if it was going to happen the next week, or in the Super Bowl, or here.”
    ====

    Notice he said Harbaugh gave him the opportunity and not Baalke or the Niner FO.
    Like I said previously Alex Smith holds no grudge and the Niners got two good draft picks out of it.
    Not sure why Chuckles keeps on with his futile effort to make Harbaugh look bad.

  64. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck just likes to keep us entertained. After all, who doesn’t love a good pie in the face. Thanks for donating your mug each day, Chuck.

  65. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    LMAO when Chuckles lowered his “Super Bowl or Bust” standard to just making the playoffs. Chuckles says it’s different priorities now.
    Remember Chuckles endorses firing Harbaugh because he couldn’t win a Super Bowl. Chuckles doesn’t know if he’s coming or going yet he’s the head clown in this circus.

  66. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    After hearing Kawakami’s podcast interview with Harbaugh, anyone with the ability to think, if they’re honest, will see what the rest of us have known.

    Doesn’t bode well for the Jed/Trent head coaching team, or Tomsula frankly.

  67. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes it’s a bitter pill to swallow. Plenty of fans are refusing the medicine hoping to avoid the unpleasant truth = Niner leadership sucks eggs. They fired the winning coaches in a spasm of control addiction and to save money. Of course it is more convenient to blame the coach than deal with their own crap.

    Huge mistake as will be seen.

    If “hope addicts” want to go on believing this is for the best, fine. Won’t fly here but there are places for ya.

    Not going to get too excited about the draft or anything else until I see how this works out on the field.

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I am not a fan of Stephen A Smith, in fact I think he’s a blowhard windbag. His take on what happened here though is spot on. He said the Niners better make a splash with hiring new coaches. Because they didn’t I get this feeling that they’re headed in the wrong direction.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uVyaNLV8O0

  69. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I find SAS entertaining at times. The problem is that his statements are like Spitblood’s posts. By the time you get through it all, you can’t remember if he had a point or not.

  70. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Dance,little puppets. Your stupidity is endearing.

    Just win, baby.

  71. Bones49No Gravatar says:

    The problem we all face with Unca_Chick is he actually has fans participating and engaging on his blog site, which is alarming to any true American. If a fool like this can actually have people following him thinking they’re engaging in an intelligent conversation that means anyone can be lured to believing drinking the kool-aide will get you to heaven quickly.

    One would think that this liberal punk who deletes and removes fans post if you don’t agree with him would be banned based on this tree huggers non belief of freedom of speech but the weak minded who post there cheer this act on.

    Unca_chick has been wrong every year since the York’s came to town yet he starts every season with a bright new attitude as if he’s the Prediction Queen. Oh his 5% manhood will let out a little bark about bad moves the York’s make but rest assure she quickly covers her little balls with a skirt and picks up her pom poms and starts cheering again.

    I must say that his “NO HOLDS BARRED” slogan which means rules are thrown out the window was a manly statement that was soon exposed as a fraud based on his new rules on his site which is, “You either agree with me or get banned!”

  72. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ahhhh, flying vagina makes his flaming comeback.

    Mrs. Entitlement never fails to entertain.

  73. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Yahoo Shutdown Corner now ranks the Niners 15th out of the 32 in his power rankings.

    “I just don’t see how they’re better off without Jim Harbaugh. There might be less drama in the office, and that’s great if that’s their goal. If the goal is winning, then I’m not so sure.”
    ====

    Pressure is on the new coaching staff to at least duplicate what Harbaugh achieved in 4 years which won’t be easy.
    I am hoping for the best but have to be realistic and can’t see
    the upside of the York/Baalke plan.

  74. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The thing is, Bullit, the 49ers said early last season they’d be going away from the read option and wanted Kappy to stay in the pocket. They did. Without that threat, most of Kappy’s yards came on aborted (sorry, V) pass plays, not designed runs.

    Why they fet the need to tell everyone their strategic decisions is beyond me, but a lot of teams were relieved that the Niners curtailed his designed runs.

    Which to me leads to the lack of creativity the article mentions.

  75. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    As I keep saying, all this offense has to do is sustain drives better, use their passing game more effectively, and score when they get close. These things have been problems for years.

    The defense should be fine.

  76. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Pro Football Focus shows that the Niners ran read option more last year than they did in the previous years (over 5 times a game). Defenses are forcing Kap to make the handoff by attacking Kap so he can’t keep it.
    What this says is defenses are taking away what works and forcing Kap into uncomfortable situations. If he can’t adapt by adjusting then he’ll continue to ineffective.
    If you have doubts that Kap regressed just look at his QBR.

  77. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Rubbish. You didn’t bother reading or reprinting the dissenting comments on the NN article:
    The O Line was the biggest issue

    No continuity.
    ————–
    It’s bad enough to start a couple backups most of the season, but even worse to be constantly changing which 5 are playing relative to the prior week. Add the weekly injuries at TE and it was a disaster.

    We won every game where we started the same 5 guys a second week in a row last year. Pretty telling.

    The RO only works if only 1 guy is unblocked. We had guys coming through like free ride day on the ATrain! If we ran the RO the D would just attack the Ride and make the decision at the mesh point irrelevant.

    It can be effective again with an intact O Line. Let’s hope.
    -NYners

  78. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Or this one, from a guy reads likes a coach, on our plodding receivers:

    It’s much easier to integrate the read option into your base run game when you base everything out of a zone blocked outside stretch play. The zone read is a natural constraint play that keeps the backside end (who is usually left unblocked) from chasing the play from behind and filling the cutback lane when they run their base outside stretch.
    We don’t really run the read option the way most teams do it because we don’t run the stretch OZ much if at all. Instead we take our base gap power blocking scheme, have the lead blocker ignore the End man on the line of scrimmage and arc block a second level defender, and make the unblocked defender choose between defending a play side dive or qb offtackle. It’s not so much a read option as a power option, or a veer without the pitch man.
    That’s a much harder angle for the QB to get the edge, and it’s easier for the end to play 2 for 1, bait the keep, and still force the QB to run so far laterally to gain the edge, that pursuit players are able to limit the damage to a minimal gain. Furthermore, it’s a wrinkle, and not a constraint play that is an integrated part of the offense. On a stretch play, the backside end is either left unblocked, or cut every time. But when the play side end is left unblocked in the veer, that is a key that the option is coming.
    And even if you successfully option that 1 player, if the defense does not respect your ability to threaten them vertically with the pass, i.e. you lack the speed at wideout to keep the safeties honest, then they can still bring enough players down to the LOS to have an unblocked defender at the point of attack (the QBs counterpart.)
    If you can’t get a vertical stretch in your pass game, you can’t win with your base three step pass attack because there is no guarantee that you will outnumber the defense in the underneath zones if the opposing DC is not worried about getting beat deep. And you certainly can’t expect to overwhelm the defense at the point of attack in the run game which is kind of the point of the gap/power scheme.
    I think these things are all connected. The NFL is more about matchups than schemes, and our reciever group simply does not create matchup problems since Vernon went MIA to consistently generate offense. The defense can simply bring enough players to the LOS and shut down our run game and short to intermediate pass game and dare us to beat them deep. The defense has a natural numbers advantage because the guy holding the ball can’t also be a blocker. Death by arithmetic.

    by DadPants

  79. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, take note. I gave attribution when I used someone else’s words in my post. You might try it some time.

  80. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    RT, I don’t agree with much of what DadPants writes except for the safety coverage.

    A single high safety was enough deep coverage against us for most of our games. That results in a defense being able to move their strong safety all over the place.

    He can be an additional in-the-box defender or help bracket or double cover receivers or shrink underneath zones, be a blitzer from anywhere, or be the guy that covers a LBs or lineman’s zone when they blitz the A gaps, as we saw quite a bit.

    Even though I disagree with his reasoning for why the safety was free to do those things.

  81. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    More from Kawakami on why Adam Gase was not hired as head coach
    and then also turned down the OC position.

    “There is a clear explanation for the weird and abrupt ending last month to the 49ers’ apparent pursuit of former Denver OC Adam Gase to replace Harbaugh.

    When Baalke and Gase spoke for 7+ hours in Colorado a month ago, there were reports that Gase had an agreement in place with the 49ers to be their next head coach.

    That didn’t happen–Baalke flew home, talks broke off, and Tomsula was hired very quickly after that.

    There have been multiple, persistent reports, mostly from people close to Gase, that Gase was all but offered the 49ers job during that face-to-face with Baalke, except for a few details.

    So how did this all blow up?

    According to an NFL source, Gase and Baalke did indeed come very close to an agreement for Gase to replace Harbaugh, down to the details of his prospective coaching staff, and Gase understood that his choices for the coordinator spots were approved.

    Tomsula’s name was not involved in the discussions with Gase about the defensive coordinator slot, I was told.

    Then, the next morning, after Baalke flew back to the Bay Area, things changed: Gase, the source says, was informed that he could only have the job if he made Tomsula his defensive coordinator.

    No Tomsula, no offer.

    Gase turned that suggestion down flat, and that’s when the 49ers immediately tabbed Tomsula as the head coach to follow Harbaugh.

    So when Tomsula tried hard to hire Gase as his offensive coordinator, the answer was no way–and Gase went to Chicago as the offensive coordinator.

    What’s the significance of this? Beyond yet another 49ers’ coaching misstep, which, believe me, has been making the coaching rounds, this anecdote tells us that the 49ers were committed to Tomsula but not entirely sure how committed.

    Then they got half-committed to Gase, but couldn’t make him the offer unless it was a Gase-Tomsula package deal.

    When Gase opted out of that, the 49ers went with the guy they leaned towards all along: Tomsula.

  82. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap and VD in a photo shoot for Levis which is in the SI Swimsuit Issue.

    http://bcove.me/5l3uq86j

  83. Rex BauersNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah I agree with Bones Unca_chuck’s a dick head. I happen to not like Kaepernick and just like Sfgate he deleted my post. He didn’t stop there he replaced my words with his own. I can’t believe some of you like No Fear, NJ, still post there. Oh I forgot No Fear is one of those Republicans like Unca_Chuck who will never cross party lines. Sadly they support people like Boehner who’s nothing but Nancy Pelosi in disguise.

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Rex Bauers when folks like myself, and others, come to places devoted to the 9ers, we do so to talk about the 9ers.
    We share opinions related to the 9ers as well.

    While many of us can disagree about the current situation, we can still talk about why.

    The concrete reality in all of this turmoil surrounding Jim is, we can’t change the Ownership Dynamic.
    We sink, or swim, with Jed until a stable alternative becomes available.

    Appreciate the fact that, we all don’t see things through the same pair of eyes.

    Opinions make the wheel go round.
    Kawakami, Maiocco, Schefter, you name them, have their opinions too.
    Some are more informed, others, not so much.

    Until we see the situations first-hand, we’re at the mercy of those opinions that come from the media pundits, right or wrong.

  85. Rex BauersNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, you sir are correct and that’s my point it’s great to have different opinions that makes the world go round. Unca_chuck acts like Hitler only wants to hear from people who agree with him anyone else is banned and silenced from his site, the only difference is Hilter was actually a man. After all people died for our freedom of speech and that’s what’s really sad about all of this. You or anyone else could say what they want to me because that’s your right as an American. The problem with someone like Unca_chuck who gets offended and is not man enough to respond he not only deletes your post he replaces your statement with his own and people should be outraged with this fools tactics.

    Here you have a guy like No Fear who’s a so-called conservative that should back freedom of speech and he continues to post there knowing what’s taking place. It’s like a hunter with a huge bull elk on his back hanging out at a PETA rally cheering them on.

    I guess most people don’t want the truth, they either want affirmation of what they mindlessly believe every year or they find people who will agree with them so they can all feel better in believing in something that never has a chance of coming true. I guess I’m different I don’t get offended by anyone’s comments and I believe you could say what ever you want but rest assure if this was happening to you or anyone else I’d let this idiot unca_chuck know that silencing someone because you don’t agree with them would never be tolerated.

  86. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I guess this has become a place for now where folks get to grumble about Chuck. Politics has nothing to do with it for me except as it affects the Niners or their players. It’s a problem of insisting on “any” POV as “right” when it has been hashed to death here and everyone’s positions are clear and pretty much fixed. So time to acknowledge our differences and move on. Or not which gets tiresome, annoying.

    As far as blog management goes each owner has his standards and style and we are always free to find places where we can speak freely and hopefully be heard/supported if not always agreed with.

    Chuck is a conservative? Really? Regardless, it doesn’t matter to me.

    Meanwhile the facts, details continue to come out about the recent coaching follies and do not paint the Niner brain trust as very wise.

  87. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    All about context and delivery I guess Rex Bauers.
    That’s the basis of the debate surrounding the 9ers.
    Ultimately, the guy who thinks he’s right, is the same guy that owns the team.
    I don’t love him, I don’t necessarily hate him.

    I do question his judgement, like many here do.

    To that end, Jed’s got the last word.

    At least here in Blogsville, we can do our best to get along.
    It’s OK to disagree, so long as we respect each others’ right to think for themselves.
    In this World, it’s about being a 9er fan.
    We aren’t always right, we aren’t always wrong, just opinionated.

    Never had any issues with Chuck, disagreements maybe, but, nothing worthy of being censored thus far.
    I too appreciate perspective from other 9er fans.
    Food for thought as they say.

  88. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    FlyingV68, my friend, I know of only one guy who’s defended your ‘right’ to speak your mind on SFGate and Chuck’s blog or wherever, no matter your opinion.

    Fact is, it’s not a matter here of the government limiting what you say, (Obama’s doing a pretty fair job of that anyway) these blogs are under no obligation to allow anyone to post anything, and it’s got nothing to do with the 1st Amendment restrictions on the government. And since you want to attack me for my effort in taking your part, I won’t bother with it again.

  89. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit the info you posted about Gase pretty much confirmed what I suspected re: our failure to hire him = it was a package deal where the supposed HC “had to” accept Tommy boy as DC or no deal. Well right a lot of coaches wanted no part of York’s scheme to control the coaches via Tommy. Yuck.

    Addiction to control as I have mentioned previously is a serious issue as is any addiction. York is a control addict meddling with the operations of our coaching staff. The result will be coerced coaches and players following the company line and resenting it to some degree. Regardless of the happy face they try to put on it to keep their jobs.

    We’re on our way back to the days of massive turnover in the coaching staff like what “helped” develop Alex and our passing attack since days of Garcia and Mooch. It’s the York way.

  90. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, I’m still trying to understand the timeline involved with Jim and Jed?
    Kawakami suggests via his interview, that all came unglued following the Seattle game this year.
    If so, what started the rumblings PRIOR to the season?

    I still feel, there were some major fractures suffered, with the NFCCG loss in Seattle.

    As Jim suggested in the TK interview, I’d be interested to hear what he’s got tucked away in the back of his mind, relative to that ‘book’ he’s suggesting.

  91. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m also WAY OUT on that limb regarding the attachment to Tomsula.

    Possible that the connections between NFLE and Dr Daddy are somewhere in the core of that relationship?

  92. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Pretty much agree with that timeline NJ: loss in NFCCG to SEA started the trade discussion w/ CLE however brief and guaranteed no extension for Hendrix. Then after a season of injuries, losses and leaks the loss again to SEA was the final nail in the Jimi team for York, Balkey and Marathe.

    Tommy’s just a competent DL coach and an expert ass kisser, sabotager who got into the York’s good graces one way or another. Could be the old NFLE via daddy who knows nothing about football as similar to his child.

    If Chuck flames out (never happen) we can always chart the follies of this ownership crew and their successors to Singletary.

    It’s tough when Santa turns out to be a myth

  93. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I often ponder the motives between the NFL and NFLE Phil.

    Very few connections exist across the pond that make sense to me.

    Tomsula and, his personal protege, UK Discus/Rugby Star, DE Lawrence Okoye, seem to be synonymous with SF.

    Why that is, is certainly curious, at best.
    Somewhere along the lines of ‘promoting’ the NFL abroad, Dr Daddy seems to hold a pretty obvious interest.

  94. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Should Okoye turn into the 1st ‘Official’ NFL prospect, by way of former NFLE HC Jim Tomsula, could Goodell and Co have any better promotional candidate?

  95. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Athletically speaking, Okoye is a bonafide ‘freak’ athlete.

    I recall reading, not that long ago, that Okoye would only re-sign in SF, if Tomsula remained on Staff.

    Tail wagging the dog I wonder?

  96. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Last I checked, Dr Daddy was the NFL Owners’ International Committee Chairman too.
    This appears to be, just a little TOO coincidental to me.

  97. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2018 Schedule
9-9: @ Vikings, 10:00 am Sun.
9-16: vs. Lions, 1:25 pm, Sun.
9-23: @ Chiefs, 10:00 am, Sun.
9-30: @ Chargers, 1:25 pm, Sun.
10-7: vs. Cardinals, 1:25 pm, Sun.
10-15: @ Packers, 5:15 pm, Mon.
10-21: vs. Rams, 5:20 pm, Sun.
10-28: @ Cardinals, 1:25 pm, Sun.
11-1: vs. Raiders, 5:20 pm, Thur.
11-12: vs. Giants, 5:15 pm, Mon.
BYE
11-25: @ Tampa, 10:00 am, Sun.
12-2: @ Seattle, 5:20 pm, Sun.
12-9: vs. Broncos, 1:25 pm, Sun.
12-16: vs. Seattle, 1:25 pm, Sun.
12-23: vs. Bears, 1:05 pm, Sun.
12-30: @ Rams, 1:25 pm, Sun.
 
2018 Draft Class
1. OT Mike McGlinchey
2. WR Dante Pettis
3. LB Fred Warner
3. DB Tarvarius Moore
4. DE Kentavius Street
5. CB D.J. Reed
6. S Marcell Harris
7. DT Jullian Taylor
7. WR Richie James
 
2017 Prognostications
NJ49er: 6-10
Skeebers: 6-10
Bullit: 5-11
Mr Fletch: 5-11
RTFirefly: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Rob: 9-7
Winder: 4-12

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