49ers 26, Eagles 21

A strange thing happened on the way to the 49ers’ third straight debilitating defeat. The defense remembered how to play all four quarters and the offense managed to dig out of a 21-10 hole and stumblebum its way to a precarious and absolutely vital win.

At first, the inventive 49ers looked to have discovered a new way to lose a game — via special teams blunders. A blocked punt TD, a punt return TD, and not to be outdone, the obligatory Colin Kaepernick stare-down his receiver pick six. 21 points and the Eagles offense had barely worked up a sweat.

Amazingly, the Eagles offense never did get to work up a sweat. Perhaps playing with just about all backups on the O-line had something to do with it, but Philadelphia could not run the ball at all and, though sacked only once (Ian Williams), QB Nick Foles was under pressure most of the afternoon.

49er CB Perrish Cox had an outstanding game in coverage. The Eagles targeted Jeremy Maclin 16 times, and completed just five against Cox’s coverage. Cox also had the game sealing interception. And one of Maclin’s receptions was a one-handed, stretched in the air, face plant beauty, that no DB could have covered. Probably explaining why Foles kept heaving the pigskin his way so often.

Another unsung 49er who stepped up was OLB Aaron Lynch. The 49er coaches finally caught up with our very own blognoscenti and benched Corey Lemonier late in the game. Lynch replaced him and made an immediate and noticeable impact, something Lemonier had failed to do all season.

The team also remembered that good things happen when Frank Gore is in the game plans. Frank gained 119 rushing yards (the Eagles had 22 total) and the game’s best wowser TD. I’ve seen WRs get ridiculously wide open deep occasionally, but Gore flared out right and Kaepernick scrambled left, and there was Gore all alone and nobody within twenty yards of him. How Kap threw that my-body-is-going-this-way-but-my-arm-is-throwing-the-other-way floater across the field to Gore is a medical mystery, but Gore took the gift and barreled down the sideline 55 yards for the TD.

The 49ers had yet another double digit penalty game, though none of the penalties did serious damage to the outcome. And Philadelphia had the same amount, making this a fairsy-squaresy ref effort, unlike the previous Chicago mob, game altering zebra beat down. Progress. Baby steps. In fact, if the special teams hadn’t been so generous, this game would have been a red and gold rout.

Instead, this game goes into the “gritty” category. A character builder. We’ve discovered two guys who can play defense (Cox and Lynch), remembered an old guy who can still play offense (Gore), and restored the notion that this is still a pretty damn good team. The Eagles were 3-0 coming in here and they left with a popped balloon as to whether they can play with the big boys.

One more observation. Watching the Sunday night game is a whole lot more enjoyable after the Niners have had a victorious afternoon. In fact, getting up Monday morning is much more pleasant, also, but that would be two observations, which would get me a writer’s penalty flag. I’m playing a clean column today, so forget the second observation. Even though it’s true.




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  1. EarlNo Gravatar says:

    I admit a victory feels good but I’m still concerned that Kap and Roman go all to pieces in the red zone. Kap still has trouble managing the clock. Starting to doubt he’ll live up to the big hype he came in with.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Basic stuff. A team should break the huddle with 15 seconds on the play clock. The Niners are usually at the 12 second mark.
    There is also no reason to bark the same signals for 10 seconds. Just hike the damn ball!

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Charlie Weis was fired as the HC at Kansas.
    Another Billy assistant failure.

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Cutler had an awful game yesterday.
    NFL Network breaking down his play and it’s mechanics and decisions. He’s been around for 9 years now. I just pray that Kap isn’t falling into the same quagmire.
    It’s a must to hit open receivers as a NFL QB. You can’t sail throws because you have a cannon. You have to throw a catchable ball.

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If the ball is not getting hiked on time that is on the coach. The coach installs the system and the players run it.

    Alex Smith was not getting the ball hiked on time often under Singletary. Tomsula was the interim coach for one game. The ball saw snapped with plenty of time on the clock each play that game, often with 8 or 10 seconds on the play clock. The QB runs the system the coach installs.

  6. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Deion Sanders is saying the players want Harbaugh out. We all know how close Sanders is with Crabtree. It makes one wonder if Crabtree is a clubhouse cancer. I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin’.

  7. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Cutler had a great game against us because he had a nice comfortable pocket to throw from. Defensive lines win championships . I’m still trying to decide if Kap had a good game or a great game yesterday considering the pressure he had to deal with. QBs under the pressure Kap had to deal with yesterday usually have the kind of games Foles and Cutler had yesterday.

  8. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll take this kind of win any day. It was satisfying to see us come back like that, our patchwork D showed some real metal. I was very glad for the fans also we needed a home victory. I really thought that Hyde would make his mark in this game but whatever Gore showed he still has his moves.
    Berger- I read that article on what Sanders said and this kind of crap can really hurt a team, true or false the team needs to air it out.

  9. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry, but somebody more reputable than Deion “Douchebag” Sanders will have to vouch for this rumor before I bite.

  10. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Who announced the end of the Crabtree holdout?

    Deion.

    I’d put a little more stock in it than you profess to deny, Skeebs.

  11. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Stock away, Chuck. No offense, but your credibility ain’t high on my list, either.

  12. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Crabs and Deion have been friends for years.

    Beyond that, Trent Dildo, er Dilfer is saying the locker room is an ‘almost toxic’ environment.

    Ian Rappaport also has some sort of source inside the walls.

    Hey, who knows? Winning cures a lot of ills, but Harbaugh needs to listen to a little .38 Special.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7coyKtbWFtI

  13. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So all these guys are blowing smoke? Sure. Stick with the company line as you must.

    “Move along. Nothing here. All is well. Pay no attention to the dead body in the corner.”

  14. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    It’s not a “company line” to disagree with you, Chuck, or to be skeptical of the reports of questionable sources.

  15. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No, Skeebs, it’s the company line to ignore about 15 reports from local and national scribes as to the state of the 49ers front office. From the trade of Harbs to Cleveland to Harbs and Baalke not speaking to each other to about 10 other items regarding Harbaugh losing the locker room to players being pissed off about practice, and now its this shit around Harbaugh preaching discipline while he has none on the sidelines, there’s a lot of churn that seems to be coming from the inside of the building.

    Beyond that, Harbaugh has spent a lot of time calling attention to himself, and for all the wrong reasons.

  16. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Any coincidence that we get Lemoneir out of the line-up and put in a decent pass rusher and the defense shines? Aaron Lunch is a not just an improvement, he is a good football player.

    I spent most of the week asking for Tank, not so much because I thought Tank was the answer but because I knew Lemoneir wasn’t. What I wanted was pressure on the QB. Most blamed the CBs for giving up big plays but I am firmly in the school of if the CBs are getting torched the first thing to look at is the opposing QB getting pressured to throw the ball early. Then Lynch steps into that vacant spot and Tank is back to learning the 3-4 DE spot. Oh, and the CBs did not get torched this week. Imagine that!

  17. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No shit, Bergs. It was a breath of fresh air to see Lynch in there wreaking havoc. Bethea should get 3 game balls for the plays he made. Cox had a great game as well. The DBs all had very solid games compared to their earlier efforts.

    Harbaugh, in fine form, refutes the accounts of discord in the locker roon by saying:

    “I haven’t seen Trent or Deion around much.”

    Harbs certainly knows how to play the media game.

  18. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Did Lemonier play any defensive snaps yesterday? I saw him only on S/T.

  19. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    The Eagles threw a bunch of zone blitzes and blitz looks at our o-line and confused the shit out of most of them. The holdout guard, Boone, was worse than Martin at tackle for one. I think Iupati was the only one who played like he’d seen it before. I don’t know if Kaepernick was adjusting the protection but he seldom seemed to know where it was going to go.

    Although, I don’t think Kaepernick was facing all the pressure “on every play” as some would have it. Maybe half the plays is closer.

  20. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Maiocco said Lemoneir did not play any defensive snaps.

  21. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, on just about every 5-7 step drop-back standard-type pass play, Kaepernick rarely had time to get set and look downfield. Most of his passes came after he broke contain.

    The pass to Gore was just flat out nuts. Running left and throwing sideways the opposite direction ~ 30 yards is near-impossible.

  22. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t think Iupati grades out well in pass pro once again. No one did. The run blocking was solid, but pressure up the middle was apparent on every pass attempt.

  23. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Newsflash- EJ Manuel Replaced By Kyle Orton
    ——————————————-

    Traded for Jay Cutler, 2 1st rd picks, 1 4th rder, and 1 7th rder

    Benched for Tim Tebow

    With $5 million in guaranteed money from Jerruh, refuses to report to camp in last year, keeps money and retires

    After being cut by Jerruh, unretires and signs for $2 more mil to hold clipboard in Orchard Park
    ——————————————————-

    Kyle Orton, the NFL News gift that keeps on giving

  24. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Uh, that should be – traded ALONG WITH (a bundle) for Jay Cutler.

    Makes a bit more sense that way, no?

  25. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “49ers ABethea41 describes ‘family’ atmosphere, disputes ‘outsiders’ chatter about Harbaugh.”

  26. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If you are a coach, or a manager in business for that matter, walk into a room with your players chatting it up. If the room goes silent it’s a good bet you have problems.

  27. robNo Gravatar says:

    Winning cures everything

  28. robNo Gravatar says:

    Good to see lynch and dial getting more chances . I was saying we might as well! !!
    Lynch is very disruptive out there. He and brooks make a good OLB combo imo.

  29. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I just read what Dilfer said. It sounds about right. The offense was misfiring. Of course they were down. I don’t interpret that as the players are mad at the coach. I think it is on RoBaugh to find a better way of getting the plays in and the ball hiked quicker to catch a rythm. The bad tempo is on the coach for making things more complicated than they need to be. Kap is just doing what he is being coached to do.

    One time out was taken when a player lined up in the wrong position. One was taken when the coach wanted a different protocol than the default call on the 4th down and didn’t alert his QB. Harbaugh did take the blame for that one. I saw the last TO coming. The players were standing around waiting for a personnel change before huddling and I was saying here comes a TO. Sure enough, by the time we lined up and had to go through let it roll or kill the clock expired. The QB ends up looking bad but it the coach who needs to fix it.

  30. robNo Gravatar says:

    Still not sure why tank is still inactive?! You can never have enough good d-linemen in there. Considerind we’re without so many key peices on defense it makes it doubly perplexing!

  31. robNo Gravatar says:

    My biggest problem with this team comes inside thetwenty. We had another first down on about the 11 yard line. We ran it up the gut three straight times and settled for three. Imo with our defense missing so many peices you have to take a shot into the endone in this situation. 30-21 is way different than 26-21 !!!!

  32. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Cutler, Ortron and Romo. The gifts that keep on giving. To their opponents . . . .

    Maybe Tank isn’t good, ROB! He’s got Nate Davis syndrome.

    Bergs, I swear to God this team acts like they have never been in a 4th and short situation. They ALWAYS burn a time out when they should be rushing to the line to try and force the other team to:

    a) burn their own time out; or
    b) get the 1st down while they are scrambling around

    Baffling that they get into situations and they all start looking around to figure what’s next?

    Then again, the Bears did the same shit to close the half. They lollygagged down the field and got to the 6″ line as the 2nd quarter clock ran out while they wasted 20 seconds getting a play off earlier in the drive. The refs hosed Chi-town on a bad call, so instead of a 24-21 Chicago lead, it went back to 21-17 Pack, and they won going away.

  33. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    ROB! Brooks has looked slow and lost. Until yesterday.

    He had a solid game.

  34. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Rob- Inre to you 4:21 post. We move the ball up the field doing it one way and go to the Sardine Can Offense once we get there. That was frustrating. The players probably feel the same, that is probably one thing RoBaugh is doing to infuriate them. Somebody should ask Deion! LOL!

  35. robNo Gravatar says:

    If there’s fire to the anti harbaugh smoke it’s more than likely because of these kinds of things.
    the good news is that gore’s succeses this week should help influence roman to go with less empty backfield ,5 WR sets.
    We need three wides, a TE and either gore or hyde in the backfield. You would think he’d realize this especially with davis out, boone just back from a holdout and a new 5th rd pick at center! !!

  36. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Their is good news for Harbaugh, he isn’t in Dennis Allen’s shoes.

  37. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    The business about getting the play in on time cost the Niners a SB win IMHO. This work in progress hasn’t. So dunno ‘how’ but agree it’s a coaching issue that has really not been fixed. And it will cost us AGAIN count on it.

    The BS about Jimi and the players tuning out is belied by the play yesterday = we know it isn’t the D or Eagles score at end to win. We know it isn’t the O or they never come back. Heard the same crap from local and a few national writers last year and also about “Harbaugh and Baalke” which made good copy but was again refuted by Niners On. Field. Performance. = good enough to get to NFCCG. It’s a media diaper load parroted by outsiders and a few local bloggers. When I actually see the team QUIT like they did with Singletary then maybe.

    Don’t you know a boo bird never changes its tune?

  38. robNo Gravatar says:

    Any body besides me think aaron lynch should be our #2 TE instead of mcdonald?

  39. robNo Gravatar says:

    Oh btw i just got back from cape coral fl. Hometown of one of our rookies! !!
    Anybody know which one.

  40. robNo Gravatar says:

    Oops i meant derrek carrier at 5:27 lol

  41. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    That’s Lynch’s hometown right Rob?

  42. robNo Gravatar says:

    What a bonehead i am lol
    Yup it’s aaron lynch PHILL

  43. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Trent Dilfer said our offense is painful to watch.

    I cannot disagree. Dilfer is kind of a local expert on painful unwatchable offenses, after all.

  44. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You can point the finger at the coach but even the dumbest person on earth knows that you can’t call signals for 12 seconds when you see 10 seconds on the play clock. That’s on the QB on any team.
    My frustration is there seems to be no urgency. When you break the huddle you see what’s on the clock and call signals within the time that’s up there. You don’t ignore the clock.

  45. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Brady is getting a lot of pressure and looks terrible. Funny how that works.

  46. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Deion Sanders just refuted that Crabtree was his source.
    Chuck never considers the source. In the past he has lambasted
    Dilfer and Sanders for what they said. Now when it goes with his narrative he’s all in.
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11613545/jim-harbaugh-san-francisco-49ers-does-not-think-players-want-gone

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bethea’s tackle of McCoy on second down stopping him on the 2 and his blitz pressure on 3rd down forcing Foles to throw it away
    were key plays in the goal line stand. He deserves a game ball and he has replaced Whitner effectively.
    Gore showed he still has a lot in the tank and I’m not ready for him to retire as long as he has reasonable salary demands for the future.

  48. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Yes, I do point the finger at the coach. And yes, you would be the one to know about dumb. Tom Brady got sacked and fumbled twice tonight and then threw an int. He is under pressure but not as much as Kap was yesterday. According to what you have said about Kap he needs to develop.

  49. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    So far, I like Bethea better than Whitner.

  50. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    In the Eagles game yesterday:
    Kaepernick pass plays under pressure = 11
    Kaepernick pass plays with no pressure = 19

    Earlier I said I thought it was about half. Actually it was only a bit over a third.

  51. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- What point are you trying to make? Where did you get those stats?

  52. robNo Gravatar says:

    I was just going to say, whitner was a good hitter but bethea has made game changing plays two weeks in a row! Last week we didn’t capitalise but this week we did!
    That said,i had a feeling we got the better and of the bargain adding bethea over whitner

  53. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    If there are 10 seconds on the play clock, you think it’s OK to go on a long count maybe using 12 seconds?

  54. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    The point I’m trying to make is that Kaepernick wasn’t without time to find his receivers on “every play” as a couple of folks have posted here.

    The stats are out there if you know the right folks or have your google-fu sharp.

  55. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- If I was the coach I would call one play in the huddle and get to the LOS. It takes us at least 10 seconds to snap a play with the current system. I have been saying for years that I do not like our play calling system. You are proving my point that it is cumbersome and too complicated.

    Alex Smith had the same problem when he was here. He did not have any problems with getting the play off tonight. Something tells me Alex wasn’t the problem when he was here.

  56. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- Why did Brady look so bad tonight? He was probably under pressure about an 11-19 ratio too. That’s a lot of pressure. In your book is that acceptable? Where do I find those numbers?

  57. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So you don’t believe Sanders when he says there’s turmoil in the locker room, but you believe him when he says his source isn’t Crabs? Now that’s funny.

    What’s funnier is I watch Alex Smith in KC and I haven’t seen him draw a delay of game penalty there. Or have to burn TOs inordinately. It’s the coach, not the QB. At least anecdotally.

  58. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    All I’m saying is knowing you have 10 seconds should tell you as the QB you can’t go on the long count. If the QB takes 12 seconds it’s all on the QB.

  59. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    You are ever the hypocrite. You denounce TMZ as a filthy entity
    when it suits you (Kap in Miami)
    Yet you embrace them when it comes to Ray Rice. Again the flip flopper at his best.

  60. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t think Kappy had this problem in college.

  61. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Why wouldn’t the delays be both on coaching and the QB? It’s likely either/or at times but hard for us to know. We can see this: Kaepernick needs to drive the guys to the line and get the plays off in time when the play clock is winding down. Work in progress

  62. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    TMZ??? Huh??? Stop hyperventilating, skippy. You’re losing air to your brain.

  63. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- I don’t doubt that there is a disgruntled employee in 49erland. For me that is not a big deal, it happens. I think the players were pissed about our last loss and some source was able to use the timing of the situation to promote his agenda. Maybe Harbaugh has rubbed somebody wrong in the front office? Win and the problem subsides until another opportunity for the untrustworthy agent presents itself.

  64. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Its been a work in progress before Kaepernick got here.

  65. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Phil- I agree, it is on the coach and the QB but the coach is the boss. It always comes back to the boss. IMO, install a more efficient system of getting the plays called. Problem solved.

  66. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Sanders offers no evidence, none. We however do see the Niners O and D play their hearts out to overcome earlier mistakes and win the game. That is evidence of the men playing for their coach, themselves.

    Who you going to believe? Sanders? The media shills? Bloggers? Or your own eyes = the facts on the field?

    The question about delays in getting plays called is far more important than this media baloney. Because as in the SB it is going to cost us….again.

  67. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    What’s ticking me off with Kaep/Harbaugh/Roman/et al is, we’re still looking disorganized on Offense.
    I’m seriously beginning to wonder if Kaep just isn’t cerebral enough to dissect a Defensive look, therefore having to be spoon fed a pair of plays to have at his disposal?

    I gave him a mulligan last year as it was his 1st year in total control of the Offense.
    After an entire year-plus of running this show, he still looks like a befuddled fool too often for my liking.

    As Steve Young proclaimed at one point, tie his eff’n shoe laces together and get him to look beyond one read before panicking and relying on his wheels.

    He’s got plenty of athleticism but, he’s no impressing me with his development as a pocket passer by a long stretch.
    No reason to take a delay of game penalty at this point of his development.
    If we can’t pass protect better, find another option.
    Roll him out or find some quick-hitters that he can execute.

  68. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well it isn’t just that, Bergs. There have been about 15 things that have pulled the focus off the team and onto Harbaugh, the front office, how teams deal with crime, trading the head coach, on and on. All of this isn’t smoke and mirrors. Sure, shit gets overblown, but this isn’t based on anything but small kernels of truth somewhere in all the bullshit.

  69. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs I think it is both the coach and the QB. Reason I say both is while I love Kap he does still have a lot to learn on reading defenses and managing the huddle, lining up, adjustments. Like you I think he can (and is) do it = master all this. But at times I wish we did get the plays in to him faster to make it easier on him. Same criticism (not making it easy) has been made on some of our pass schemes which also do not make it easy on him. That’s coaching

  70. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Another Dennis Allen fired report, this time from Fox. That ship needs Sing to turn it around!

    As far as disgruntlement, the Niners have been to the NFCCG 3 years running, 1 SB appearance. They are a team used to winning. They just lost two games in a row that they should have won, putting them behind Seattle and two behind Arizona. I don’t believe there were many smiles around Santa Clara last week. Had you asked anybody passionate, I’m sure you might have gotten “F’n” sucks out of a few.

  71. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Another Dennis Allen fired report, this time from Fox. That ship needs Sing to turn it around!

    As far as disgruntlement, the Niners have been to the NFCCG 3 years running, 1 SB appearance. They are a team used to winning. They just lost two games in a row that they should have won, putting them behind Seattle and two behind Arizona. I don’t believe there were many smiles around Santa Clara last week. Had you listened to passionate guys, I’m sure you might have gotten “F’n” sucks out of a few.

  72. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry for the double post. The first was loading in Never NeverLand and I thought I cancelled it.

  73. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, its funny that Young said that, having gone through the very same thing.

    Our protection just isn’t good for anything but quick passes. Yeah, he missed guys that were open, but he’s got about 2 seconds of his WRs to run their plays. They aren’t getting open that quick, and what then? He scrambles and is forced to improvise. If he sits in the pocket, he’s toast.

  74. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- Look how Brady looked tonight, absolutely terrible. If he was a young QB you would think people would be all over him. Some fans would even be calling for the back-up. It is a team sport. If it wasn’t for Kap’s big plays we don’t win. Those two TDs passes had a very high degree of difficulty. Get the O-line playing better and then tell me about Kap’s problems.

  75. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Anybody know where to find under pressure and not under pressure numbers?

  76. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- My last post was for NJ.

    NJ- My last post was for you and not NoFear.

  77. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I remember Steve Young’s problems in the pocket well. I was calling for Steve Bono. Young had a decent time to throw but he was one read and run. Kap is not that despite some of the haters declaring that. Kap was looking over the field well yesterday. He locked on for the int but that was an exception. Gore’s TD pass was probably a 4th or 5th read and he could have run if he wanted. The offense is going through a transition which I believe will be a huge improvement in the future. If the line would block better it would sure speed up the transition. Kap is fine and yes he is learning. Fans act like playing QB is so easy. I think he is coming along just fine.

  78. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Gotcha Berger.
    All I’m saying is, why is this so difficult after 2+ years?
    Can Harbaugh/Roman really devise a respectable passing game or, is Kaep not able to execute it?

    Something stinks in the Offensive Planning Dept IMO.

    Kaeps’ mechanics are still too flaky and they ask him to run way too much for my taste.

    There’s something to all these rumors, I’d seriously consider Crabtree among them.

    He’s a competitor who’s been the ‘Blankey’ for Kaep for too many missed opportunities when games have been on the line.
    I just wish we’d get into something more WCO oriented.

    Higher percentage passes, less reliance on pass protection too.

  79. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    For one, NJ, it’s a whole different offense now, bouncing between 5 wides and 1.

    I think the whole offense is an experiment at this point, with RoBaugh still working out what works and when.

  80. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    How is our OL doing? Jonathan Martin the best lineman yesterday sez Jack Hammer:

    “The 49ers offensive line finished with a combined -4.4 grade from ProFootballFocus. The only 49ers offensive lineman with a positive pass protection grade through the first 4 weeks is Jonathan Martin.”

    Boone’s hold out, A Davis injuries, new center, etc. having some negative effect. -4.4 is very bad and gives the QB no time to work. Not all Kap’s fault.

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    True RT – I agree with that.

    Where I’m most concerned is the timing factor.
    Delay of game penalties, poor protection calls resulting in botched attempts and, Kaep not having hot options.
    Frustrating at best.

  82. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This is why Frank is so valuable.
    He’s the emergency valve that makes this Offense tick.
    He won’t be around for too much longer however.

    D-Coordinators seem to have a formula to disrupt our efforts and we’re not showing any signs of figuring it out.

  83. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    We were playing musical lineman against Philly. I’m almost amazed our O was able to put up 26. My concern is not with Kap but in putting together a healthy O-line (sans J Martin).

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    All of it factors in RT.
    We’re bumbling around much too much.
    Anthony was a welcome sight, hopefully it won’t be a lengthy issue for him to return.

  85. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    A healthy line with each player playing his own position for the whole game.

  86. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No Phil, not all Kaep’s fault but, he’s the guy watching the play clock.
    Dumb stuff like that give DLines a clear queue to take off or back us up.
    Fundamentals are lacking with Kaep in those type of situations.
    That’s completely on him IMO.

  87. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Especially at a home game.
    Noise isn’t a factor like it is on the road.
    No excuse.
    Just flat out ridiculous to get into the Red Zone and accept a delay of game penalty.
    Killer plays, every time.

  88. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    4th Qtr yesterday.
    Chip Kelly holds 3 TOs.
    Harbaugh held ZERO.
    That nearly cost us.

  89. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- We will agree to disagree. Why did Alex have the same problems herewith getting the play off and doesn’t have them in KC? The system of getting the plays in and then selecting one of them with Let It Roll or Kill is time consuming but it is the system this coaching staff has elected to use. If you like that system then that is OK but delay of game penalties is just something you have to live with. Personally, I do not like the system.

  90. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    This team is a mess offensively. The offense looks good for small stretches, and sustain some drives, but a whole game? Still haven’t done that yet. Yesterday was close mainly because we ran Gore instead of Kaepernick. 31 passes, 42 rushes. Gore 24, Kappy 7. A much better balance.

    The offensive brain trust seems to want to throw Kappy everything all at once. In the Chicago game, Kappy threw 34 times, took 4 sacks, and ran 9 times. 47 of the 61 plays. In the AZ game 37 passes, a sack, and 13 Kappy runs. 51 out of 61 plays through the QB you are ostensibly feeding a new offense to. This is support? Throw in a ton of pressure on him, literally and figuratively, and there you go. In those games, Gore had 13 and 6 carries respectively.

    Some of us have been saying that all along, Phil. Others think a -0.2 rating is good for a pass blocker.

  91. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The delay of game penalty in the red zone was especially on the coach. The players were standing around waiting for the personnel change before the huddle was even formed. I was calling the delay of game before they even broke the huddle.

    If the coach wants to call two plays in the huddle then get the personnel in faster. IMO there is no excuse for the coach to keep putting this kind of pressure on the QB when there are so many other things to have to worry about when trying to analyze the defense before the snap. This is a bad flaw by RoBaugh IMO.

  92. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Kap was sacked 4 times yesterday. Apparently some people think that is not much pressure. That is a pace of 64 sacks in a year. You can call me dumb but I think that is a lot of sacks. A sack is the ultimate pressure. I wish we had 4 sacks yesterday. If we had 4 sacks per game from our defense we would be 4-0 right now. We had less pressure on Foles than Philly had on Kap and yet we had enough pressure to give Foles his worst game of the year. When evaluating the entire equation I like the job Kap did for us yesterday.

  93. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Many here like to quote ProFootballFocus. Our O-line was rated at -4.4 (Thanks Phil). What more needs to be said for the pressure our QB was under. That rating is pathetic and yet Kap gritted out a win. I would give our defense more credit than Kap but with a -14 differential on special teams and a -4.4 rating for the pass pro I find it amazing Kap pulled this one out. While NoFear, NJ and Bullit are flushing him down the toilet I am praising him.

  94. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger if the QB is staring at that huge digital clock in the End Zone while barking out signals 2 things come to mind.

    You’re not watching said digital clock or, you’re too slow to call a TO to keep from getting backed up.

    Sure, the system we employ sucks.
    Where is all the change Harbaugh promised when we flunked the NFCCG test last year?

    If the players aren’t getting tired of that sh!t like I am, they’re a whole lot more forgiving than me.

    It’s starting to look like Kaep is being spoon fed to me.
    “If they show this, do this. If they show that, do that”.
    Gives a DCo a simple solution.

    Get him to call a protection and reverse your pre-snap look.
    Messes up pass protection and thwarts the timing of the play called.

    It almost seems to me like there’s too much for Kaep to handle and Harbaugh/Roman can’t dumb it down beyond a running game.

    Something is dreadfully wrong with our ability to devise a passing game for a kid with a big arm and the ability to make throws on the move.
    If you can’t give him a pocket or the protection to function in it, find something that can work that isn’t tied to the Pistol.
    I still contend that they’re not that creative or just overly obsessed with wasted motion, which complicates things even further.

  95. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Mark the date and time Berger.
    Flushing him down the toilet – 9/30/14 10:43PM.

    This is where the Alex Haters crap started.

    You’re praising him for being a good athlete.
    I’m questioning how good a QB he is right now and why he’s still making some of the same stupid decisions he made 2 years ago.

    Let’s not forget Alex got traded too.
    If it’s not Alex or Kaep, it’s the Coaching.

    Something just isn’t clicking for me.
    Doesn’t mean I’m flushing Kaep down the toilet.
    That’s your assessment.

  96. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, I’d say Jonathan Martin has a friend in the stat/grading room. He’s given up three sacks all by himself.
    .

    Berger, you ask questions you don’t want the answer to if it’s not in lock step with your idea of what you imagine is going on. You think calling everyone with a different opinion a hater is strengthening your position. Who the hell do you think you are, Obama? Your styles are very similar.

    Like it or not Kaep’s not perfect and he makes plenty of mistakes all on his own. Your idea that a good play means you can’t mention his bad ones only extends as far as players you happen to like or predicted they’d do well?

    If Kaep has a guy or two in his face and throws the ball away who’s going to blame him? When he pulls the ball down and runs in the direction of an open receiver ten yards down field and never even looks his way as he runs out of bounds short of a first down that’s on him. It’s a bad decision that he made.

    I’ve got no reason to grind on Kaepernick. I was in favor of him starting as our quarterback long before you were and while you were still peddling Alex as an elite QB with all the excuses and name calling you’re doing for Kaepernick now.

  97. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    MNF has the worst post game show and crew in the business.

  98. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    btw, I take exception to the Indian chants the KC fans do! Not to mention the tomahawk chops!!! Are you kidding me?! Where’s the outrage?!!

  99. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Oh, yeah, I don’t like all the flags of Mexico and Canada people bring to the games to fly. Where the hell do they think they are that they have to bring another country’s flag.

  100. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- Are you a liar or just a tornado of bullshit. I never once called Alex an elite QB.

    I’m asking a question I would like answered. Where do you find the pressure in the pocket stat?

    Are you backing Kap or trying to prove he sucks. I am praising him while you are throwing out stats to prove he had very little pressure and our offensive misfiring is all his. If that is not hating then please explain your position.

  101. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    It’s starting to look like the Offensive mentality is too elementary to get into another gear for our brain-trusts.

    Overly complicated shifting and formations, wasting time and neglecting pass route options.

    The guys in the locker room may love Harbaugh.
    However, I’m sure they don’t love getting to a big moment in the post season only to see Throw it to Crabtree 101 fail again and again.

    Creativity is lacking.
    Execution starts with the QB too.

    If the plays suck or, break down, it becomes a scramble drill.
    That’s what it looked like vs Philly yesterday.
    Scramble drills.

    At least Kaep doesn’t hit the water cooler to save his own A$$ and waste a down.
    He wastes yardage by ignoring the play clock.

    My concern is that he’s going to get nailed in the open field sooner or later, because we can’t find something that allows him to get the ball out quickly.

    If I’m flushing anything, it’s the notion that we have people onboard that can devise something the opposition can’t defend.

  102. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    All righty then! NoFear is charged up! Now you are hating Mexicans and Canadians! If you are on a roll I can step aside and just be entertained!

  103. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Philly’s Defense sucks monkey nuts and we couldn’t expose them, simply because they put pressure in Kaeps’ face and blew everything up.

    I laugh at any person in authority who professes an open door policy too.
    Your door may be open but, your mind needs to be open to anyone bringing opinions through said door.
    There’s a difference between listening and hearing too.

    Blowing leads and not scoring in the 2nd half of the games vs Chicago and AZ suggests to me that we can’t scheme well enough to score TDs in crunch time.

    Sh!t, we couldn’t get a 1st down vs Philly after they turned the ball over on downs inside our 10 yd line.

    Run, run, run, punt.
    Genius.

    What’s the definition of insanity?

  104. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Justin Bieber is Canadian. Nuff said.

  105. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Is it the Oline or the pass protection calls pre-snap?
    Kilgore or Kaep?
    Harbaugh or Roman?

    Head-scratcher for me thus far.
    Considering we were promised a New and Improved Offense.
    We hid it from view in the Pre-Season.
    We tinkered with some wrinkles in AZ.
    Then put the lid back on it.
    Maybe Harbaugh doesn’t want to show it to Pete too early?
    How the heck do you perfect something you don’t employ in game?
    We’re too mechanical, too predictable, too blah.

  106. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Just call one play so Kap can get to the LOS faster. This will allow the whole offensive personnel to function better. One simple change will change things dramatically IMO. You want Kap to call out plays and change the protections, give him the time to do it. How about a little more time for the receivers to see a hot read. Right now they have to concentrate on which play is being called AFTER they are lined up. It is not just the QB that has to recognize a hot read.

    The system you and Harbaugh likes sucks IMO. I say you like the system of calling two plays, getting set, then finally choosing a play after being set because you are blaming the QB. Obviously the system is OK for you and the QB is too simple of a man. Is that not a hater? I am declaring that I hate the system. So what are you hating, the system or the QB? You are obviously hating something.

    BTW, why did Tom Brady look so bad tonight without good O-line protection. Kap has a bad system of delivering plays AND bad O-line protection. Yet he is supposed to look like an elite QB or get scrutinized by the blog experts. Alex sure looked good tonight with a little protection. Funny how that works.

  107. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger the system is NOT OK for me, that’s what I’m questioning.
    I’m asking whether they feel Kaep needs to have these options in the first place?

    Can he visually see a pre-snap alignment, call protections and a play on his own at this point, or not?

    Seems to me, he can’t if they continually do what they’ve been doing since he took the reigns.

    I think he’s being spoon fed still.
    Is that on him or the Coaching?

  108. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    What I ‘blame’ Kaep for is wasting yardage for delay of game issues.
    If that means changing what they’re doing from the sideline, why wasn’t it done before the season started?
    Same sh!t, different season. Again.

  109. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Center’s supposed to call protections and we’re bubble gum and baling wire there, too.

    We’re not going to change the system. We need Kap to pay attention to the bloody play clock staring him in the face. Oh, and not call timeout when the coach told you to him the play clock out.

  110. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    *told him to

  111. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Good question. I ask it too.

    The system of delivering two plays is used by many teams and every time I see it used those teams often have the same problem at some point in the game as we have had. Time outs and delays are standard for that system. I can’t say why so many coaches like it.

    At least Kap is being allowed to look for multiple pre snap reads this year. Last year wherever he pre snap read is where the ball was going. That is a product of the Sardine Can Offense, which we still like to employ in the red zone. The 3 WR sets give him more options. Now if we could just find a way to give him the time to see them pre snap. My suggestion, call one play in the huddle and audible if need be. Maybe then the receivers will have time to see the pre snap adjustments too.

  112. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- Harbaugh said that was his fault. He did not relay to Kap that he didn’t want a TO called. Kap went with the default protocol. Harbaugh called it “sloppy coaching.”

  113. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I just saw the punt block again. Andy Lee took the standard 3 step kick. I’ve always seen other punters take only one step to kick in that situation. Lee’s fault or maybe they never practiced that situation? Hmmm!

  114. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Kaep said just the opposite in the post game interview regarding the TO taken after the delay of game RT.
    Someone is talking sh!t on that topic.

    Either Harbaugh took responsibility or Kaep is just oblivious.
    I’m thinking of the age old adage of the apple not falling too far from the tree.

    This is starting to look like a big game of disinformation to me.

    Harbaugh spews sh!t, Kaep follows suit.
    Coach said call time out. That’s what we practice.
    Then Coach says I should’ve told him to take the penalty.

    Huh?
    WTF is going on with this team?

  115. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No wonder we take so many delay of game penalties and waste timeouts.
    We can’t communicate or, people tune out the communicator?

  116. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Jaws just criticized Kap for hi int. If anybody remembers Jaws playing days, that was a Jaws special. The stare down int. ESPN just showed Brees staring down a receiver and throwing a pick. Too many experts here are acting like Kap is the only QB who ever stared down a receiver. Brady had one of those tonight and he wasn’t even under pressure on that play. He forced it over the middle into coverage.

  117. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, you write:
    “Are you backing Kap or trying to prove he sucks. I am praising him while you are throwing out stats to prove he had very little pressure and our offensive misfiring is all his. If that is not hating then please explain your position.”

    How much bullshit is that in one paragraph?

    I’m not trying to prove anything of the sort. I’m trying to correct the massive flow of bullshit from certain posters that post their impressions as fact when they are far from it.

    I’m in favor of people learning the facts and then forming their own opinions. You and some others insist on force feeding your opinion on everyone else and ridiculing them if they question it or don’t buy in.

    The stats? I watch the game. And usually watch it again in condensed version to see if I can get a feel for what the opposition is doing, and then again to try to get a feel for the flow in our game. And when the coaches film comes out I watch it clicking through all the defensive plays to isolate some of the players and the same on offense. Then I play some plays through in slo-mo.

    And then I compare my impressions with what Pro Football Focus guys have graded. I get their stuff from a friend in the biz. You can just buy them I guess or google for them. Lots of folks post them to their blogs and whatnot.

  118. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Not sure who said it, might have been LaVar Arrington on NFL AM but, whomever it was, suggested that they think Kaep is being instructed on which routes to look for specifically so as not to overwhelm him.
    Again I ask, huh?

    Said commentator thinks that we’re micro-managing him.
    If so, it would lead me to ask why?

    2+ years into his development and you’re suggesting he needs to be micro-managed on where to throw the ball?
    Might explain why he ignores so many other options when they’re out there for all of us to see.

    I seriously think there’s no one capable of improving the status quo.

  119. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The pisser to me as I said before is that they ALWAYS f*** that situation up. 4th and short is always met with never running a quick play and catching the other team off guard. It’s everyone looking around and waiting too long to figure shit out and burning a timeout.

    Then they punt.

    The ploy looked to me like they were just trying to draw Philly offsides and Kappy was supposed to take the penalty. The fact that they wwandered around so long, with personnel shuttling in and out added to the confusion. They can’t even take a penalty right.

    This offense is a mess.

  120. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Adds up for me when I consider the Throw the Ball to Crabtree 101 Clinic we’ve seen in crunch time.

    I think there’s a storm a brew’n behind the scenes.
    Harbaugh may have reached his ceiling with the Offense.

  121. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    You’re right about that. But if they could tell Kaep not to run the play don’t you think they would have told him not to call the time out and take the delay? Of course they would as that was part of the play call. Harbaugh was just taking the heat for his QB’s screw up as he should.

  122. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I want to know where you got that stat. I would like to visit that site. That would be a stat I would look up if it were available. You inferred anybody with Google can easily find it. I’m just following up on your inference that we are not too bright if we can’t find it ourselves. Since you are not providing the sight I can only assume those stats are your opinion from watching film. No bias there.

    Read your last post and ask yourself, who is demeaning whom? All I did was tell you why I called you a Kap hater and then gave you the opportunity to explain why I am wrong. You elected to change the question and not answer. I thought I asked a legitimate question. What exactly is your position on Kap?

  123. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s pretty much it Chuck.
    Same sh!t being flung against the wall again and again, all the while expecting the results to change.

    That’s the sheer definition of insanity.
    And Harbaugh plays the part of the sideline lunatic-in-charge.

    I’m banking on the Seattle match-ups to decide his future in SF.

  124. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t see it that way. We tried to let Kaep run a passing offense. Problems were expected and experienced. We always have the run game to fall back on.

    The QB has to have an option to kill a run if they put more in the box then the play accounts for or kill a pass if they go to six DBs and we could run a mile through them. It only makes sense.

    There’s never time to tell every player where he has to line up in the change though. Could be it’s some of the other guys not up to snuff on things as well.

  125. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Stop being an asshole and pretending you’re just asking innocent questions. I don’t have a “position” to defend on Kaepernick. I want him to be good and play well. Sometimes he doesn’t. That doesn’t go for or against anything for me. It just is.

    Buy the effin’ stats. They’re from PFF. I’m not giving them to you or offering to post them for you. I don’t know their site. Try PFF.com or some such.

  126. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- You can believe that but I don’t. The fake punt has a standard protocol and that is what Kap ran. He ran what was communicated in practice. Harbaugh called the play and didn’t change the protocol. If you agreed with what Harbaugh said you would be selling it to us. Since you don’t agree it is just him covering for Kap. Sounds like a hater to me. If I am wrong then please explain your position on Kap.

  127. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    WTF are you talking about. You don’t know shit about what was called or what was practiced.

    Are you insane? How many ways can I explain the same thing to you?

  128. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What is “google-fu sharp?” That is what you said I need to find that stat. I want to know where to find that stat but you told me I need google-fu sharp.

  129. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I know what happened because the QB and coach told us. How do you know they are lying?

  130. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, I guess the sharp part lets you out. Sorry.

  131. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- I try to rely on you for reliable info and I find out you are not being very reliable. I’m getting nowhere with your obfuscations. I’m going to bed.

  132. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er just said they both told different accounts. All coaches and I’d imagine most players lie to the press. Have you ever heard of that?

  133. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What is happening here is you inferring the stats are readily available and now we have to pay for it. So I guess they aren’t readily available. Got it.

    Good night.

  134. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    You are a legend in you own mind. Keep selling those opinions as stats. Isn’t that what you accuse other of doing. Too funny. At least I say IMO, you try to tell us they are stats, even though you just pulled out of your biased game review.

  135. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I was implying, you were inferring.

    The stats and lots more are available to purchase. You can afford it. And then you won’t be talking out of your ass so often.

    I’ve seen them posted on the inter webs in various locations. In fact I believe bullit posted some of them from some other Niner blog last week. Maybe he’ll let you know how to do that if you ask nicely. I don’t have the desire or the patience to take on that task.

  136. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger from what Kaep said post-game, it’s implied that they practice the ‘call time-out’ approach regarding the draw them offside play.
    Harbaugh covered his own a$$ by taking Kaep off the hook perhaps?

    I just think there’s a MAJOR breakdown in communication taking place.
    Confusion on game days obviously isn’t being practiced away well enough during the week huh?

    When the troops enter battle without the proper preparation can we be too surprised when things meltdown?

  137. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    At least we’re not trying to figure out who the rat in the building is like some other sites are. Waste of time that.

    I’m not ready to draw any conclusions about Harbaugh or Kaepernick at this point or throw either under the bus out of frustration like some here are. Simplify the system sounds good = call one play and audible if necessary as Berger suggested. It’s way too early to get agitated about the O IMO. The D and Kap won that game for us. Burned a few TOs yes but we won. Yes it is concerning as it ‘will’ recur if not addressed so they ‘should’ git ‘er ironed out. But pitch a fit over the coach or the QB at this point? How long did it take Young to become a decent pocket passer? Years = 3-4. And Kap may never be S Young but he has his own strengths.

    I’m looking forward to Lynch getting to know Alex personally on Sunday. Fewer penalties and injuries and shutting the Chiefs down for a 1 point win works for me.

  138. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- I stayed up until 1:00 in the AM to try and find out the sight that you “implied” any moron with Google can find. Since you gave us the stat all you had to do was tell us the sight you used. Is that what you didn’t have the time or patience to tell us? I think anybody with Google-fu sharp can see through that story.

  139. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Phil- Many coaches have growing pains at their 1st head coaching stops. See Pete Carrol and Bill Billacheat. IMO, Harbaugh will get it soon, I think it is already happening. I’d hate to see him elsewhere when he is running a dynamic offense with his good defenses he puts together. I think he is on the right track right now but being patient is not in a bloggers vocabulary. The problem with being patient is one could also be wrong and our window is open now. I understand that very well but bringing in another coach means starting over. My solution is let him tweak the system and get it right. Everyone will benefit especially the QB.

    Just because I point out some things that drive me crazy with Harbaugh does it mean I want him fired. There are a lot of things he does very well. It sounds like you are saying about the same thing.

  140. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “KingCrab15: I don’t know what people are talking about with Mr Deion… But we good over here!”

  141. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    What really strikes me as telling is the fact that Deion is VERY adamant in his statement that Harbaugh is on shaky ground.

    In other words, someone upstairs is feeding Deion a story. Be it true or not doesn’t matter. It is being disseminated as the truth.

    This is very similar to the Singletary rat story. In that scenario, the front office was floating bullshit around that Sing had lost the support of his players. Granted, it was probably true, but the front office shouldn’t be the one to drive this. The front office shouldn’t be in the position of undermining their head coach. It smacks of petty bullshit from a juvenile owner looking for a way to avoid dealing with their successful yet abrasive head coach.

    I’m as down on Harbaugh as anyone regarding this mishmash of a crazy season, but if the front office is the one sending out these red flags, then this is not going to end well for anyone.

    Least of all the fans. This is Mark Jackson all over again.

  142. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’m referring to Deion’s tweet last night where he says:

    “I never knew the Truth hurts that much. Sorry San Francisco 49ers fans but it is what it is. Ask yourself why would I lie!”

    Well, I know why you would lie, Deion. Because you are a glory hound. You are also possibly a pawn of Jed York in his disinformation campaign against Harbaugh.

    Beyond that, other stories are being fed to the national media regarding Harbaugh treating the players like children, and practices are too hard, yadda yadda yadda. Do national media types travel with the team? No. Where would they be getting this info? The players? Maybe. But every player that has talked has gone out of the way to say how close they all are. Newcomer Antoine Bethea said this team is very close. A family. Unnamed sources indeed. The more I see what is going on, the more this looks like the Singletary ouster. Problem is, Harbaugh’s done a much better job.

  143. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, I guess I’m the Google-fu sharpie:

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2014/2013-pressure-plays-quarterbacks

    Gotta pay for it though.

  144. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And I don’t know if it includes this year’s stats, Berger.

  145. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- Using NoFear’s stats of 11 under pressure and 19 with no pressure, that puts Kap under pressure at about 37%. According to your chart that would be about a league worst. I’d say he was under a lot of pressure. NoFear was implying that he wasn’t. That is what raises the hater questions. He can deny like head coaches do but he did as bad a job of denying as most head coaches do. His position is clear. I wonder when he starts calling Kap a coach killer?

  146. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, the dumbass site says the tables are wrong, so who knows what the deal is? If anyone is a coach killer, it could very well be Jed.

  147. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Just watching the game told me Kappy was under a lot of pressure. Mainly straight up the middle. And these numbers? Who knows? Some folks were touting Iupati’s pass blocking a couple weeks ago, which I called terrible, and they were beside themselves saying he graded out at a +1.2. Yippee. Unfortunately, his pass blocking graded out at -0.2 for that game. They called J Mart awful. Which he was. He graded out at -0.3. What does that tell you? Either Iupati run blocks well, or some folks need help with eye charts.

  148. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Do you even know what that grade (-0.2 or +1.2) represents? I thought not. Jonathan Martin gave up three sacks. THREE SACKS. Along with a handful of whiffs each and every game.

    Iupati has good games and not-so-good games, like most every other player. When he plays well we usually win if we run like Sunday. He had a positive pass block grade Sunday, best of the team except A.Davis who only played 24 snaps, and a +4.9 overall, best on offense by far, btw. Yeah, he sucks. Who needs the eye chart?

    Here’s another stat a sharp google-fu could uncover;

    Kaep under pressure: Yds/Att-8.0, 3-TD, 1-INT, QBR-92.6

    Kaep no pressure: Yds/Att-7.1, 3-TD, 3-INT, QBR-90.7

  149. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Baghdad Bob Berger, enough of your bullshit mischaracterizing. What I said was Kaepernick wasn’t under pressure on every play as some here would have it. Everyone can understand that without your bullshit interpretation. The stats I posted backs that up.

  150. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Iupati was out of position and late with his blocks as well in his pass pro. They may not have been obvious to you, but -0.2 is not a good blocking number. Is it?

    You tell me, numbers-fu guy. Is there a big diff between -0.2 and -0.3? If J Mart gave up 3 sacks and got a -0.3, WTF is so good about a -0.2? They are your numbers. I saw Iupati out of position and late on his blocks that game, and said so. When you touted his +1.2, I noted that he got good numbers for run blocking, but the pass pro numbers bore me out. What then? You dog J Mart. And tell me I’m wrong.

    Do these increments grade out exponentially like earthquakes?

  151. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If I’m Baghdad Bob that would make you Saddam Hussein. You like to be the master debater but you usually end up hiding in a hole about to be uncovered!

    No mischaracterizing, in the my accuracy is astounding!

  152. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Is Kappy holding the ball too long? No. He barely has time to throw. 4 sacks a game is not a good grade. And this was a game where we ran well. And since I can’t see these numbers of which you speak, I don’t know what each lineman’s pass pro grades were, but whatever. If you want to call a 4 sack day great protection, have at it.

  153. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- It doesn’t matter the numbers, if he agrees he shoves them in your face, if he disagrees he tells you they are bull crap.

  154. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, my friend was there when Saddam was found and was one of the soldiers who had to guard him. He was also the person who took the picture Uday and Qusay after they were killed and dressed up. His job was to hold the antenna and walk down the streets. This is one gutsy guy! I’m surprised he is still alive.

  155. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    What unit did he serve with there?

  156. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    4 sack, 11 hurry game, I should say.

  157. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t know, he was Army special forces. He had a very high award. I think it was called a Silver Star? Does that make any sense. I don’t know anything about awards.

  158. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Tom Brady’s old teammate, Rodney Harrison, is saying he looks scared to death out there. Funny what a little pressure does to a QB. My point is if we had a decent pass rush this season we would be 4-0 right now and I think Kap is doing a great job considering the pressure he is under.

  159. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I served with SF, too. Different era but we might know some of the same people. Ask him about the unit.

  160. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I tried to find his name on the Silver Star list and did not see it. It did say the list was only 70% complete. He might have got a different award. I was told it was the 2nd highest you can get. What would that be?

  161. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It would be hard to ask him these days. He moved to Georgia and I lost touch. He used to instruct the troops on how to ride quads and when he came to Reno we would go quad riding.

  162. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Army:
    Medal of Honor, Distinguished Service Cross, (Defense Distinguished Service Medal), Silver Star, (Defense Superior Service Medal), (Legion of Merit Medal), Soldier’s Medal, Bronze Star, Purple Heart, …

    Parenthesized are “service achievement” medals rather than combat/heroism type medals.

    Google is a wondrous thing.

  163. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, RT is right. DSC is the second highest award. What’s the man’s name? I’ll find out what his awards were if he was in SF.

  164. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    His name is Connally.

  165. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck seems to believe what he wants to hear and fits the evidence from “un-named sources” as gospel.

    More players are coming to Harbaugh’s defense
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/30/more-support-for-harbaugh-from-49ers-locker-room/

    A player or two is always disgruntled but Chuck believes there’s a full blown mutiny which is laughable.
    So if Deion says Crabtree is not his source then Deion’s lying?
    Interesting…

  166. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Who’s our best OLman in pass pro through 4 games ? Staley? Nope. Iupati? Hell no. Looney? Uh no way. Boone? No and he’s played 2.

    Correct me if this quote from Jack Hammer (49erswebzone) isn’t right NF:

    ” The 49ers offensive line finished with a combined -4.4 grade from ProFootballFocus. The only 49ers offensive lineman with a positive pass protection grade through the first 4 weeks is Jonathan Martin.”

    So not sure when the 3 sacks occurred- against Eagles or cumulatively. But whenever Martin gave them up he must be playing pretty good in pass blocking to wind up as the ONLY OL with a positive grade after 4 games. Or does our pass pro just generally suck? Hint: It sucks and saying Martin is our best isn’t saying much.

    So Kaepernick has “no” time to throw basically. BTW how about some roll outs to give Kap time. I hear he’s pretty good at throwing on the run too…too obviously simple I guess for Roman

  167. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, I distinctly remember one play where the Eagles blitzed one from the Niners left outside. Martin had no TE next to him, but ignored the opposing DE to double up on the DT. The DE went straight for Kap and got him easily. Frank was occupied by the blitzer.

    It was a profound screwup. Frank didn’t look at the DE as if he expected Martin to handle him. Martin didn’t look at the DE as if it was a called protection for Frank. Who blew it? My money’s on Martin.

  168. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    There is no player mutiny nor, as Spitblood would have it, is Jed trying to force Jimi out or set him up to go. York may be young but he’s not stupid. He’s cautious and is keeping his mouth shut while crap swirls around this team. Why can’t we be more like him? Lol. Speaking of problems I see the DAs office STILL hasn’t forwarded their supposed “case” against Ray Mac to court. But he would be sitting based on the input from genius politicians, ex-49ers and the howling mob of “guilty because he’s obviously the perpetrator” voices. Just a note on an overlooked item of interest.

    Our problems are on O, specifically our rebuilt OL. Our season and the QBs health rest on this becoming functional. Our starting unit has played one quarter together this year and now A Davis is dinged again. It hasn’t been pretty has it?

  169. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck said this
    “Beyond that, Trent Dildo, er Dilfer is saying the locker room is an ‘almost toxic’ environment.”

    Again Chuck hears what he wants to hear and apparently is poor at comprehending which is no surprise.

    Maiocco said this “Just to be clear, Trent Dilfer’s comment had nothing to do with the locker room. He meant that the team’s offense looks “almost toxic.” He spoke about the body language of players on offense.”

    Stretching and bending the truth per usual cuz you don’t like the coach, what a surprise.

  170. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep RT and he’s our best? We miss Davis in there and he can’t stay healthy. Cutting Goodwin was a risk too and here’s the price.

    Luckily there are no rats in the building : )

  171. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah Bullit agenda driven blogging is … boring, predictable and biased as hell. Did I mention no fun?

  172. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If anyone truly believes this stuff about Harbaugh and the team being against him then you must also believe the season is lost.

  173. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The team is setup to make a second half run. In a little over a month we will get back two of our best defensive players in Aldon and Navarro and also Brock should come back in another 2 weeks which makes us 4 deep at CB.
    There is a lot of football to be played still and I’m optimistic as there is a solution to what ails the team and some fixes are coming.

  174. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- I remember a play when Martin blocked down and the DE came straight at Kap unblocked. Kap was a dead duck, until, Kap side stepped him and made a nice play.

    I couldn’t believe what I was seeing, Martin blocked down and ended up blocking no one and let the DE come in untouched. If what you saw was a different play that means he did it twice.

  175. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep, the season, the team, the hope, the dream. It’s hell losing your religion I tell ya.

    Negative nellys are a dime a dozen

  176. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Not to mention the emergence of Aaron Lynch. So far he looks like a force.

  177. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Aw come on Bergs and RT are you saying our BEST OLman is crap?

    That might explain a few things

  178. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Dunno, Reno. I just rember the TV replay highlighting the oncoming unblocked locomotive.

  179. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    The D showed what they are capable of last game with just the current players so stands to reason they will get even better as Bowman and Aldon come back. We should be in good shape in 2nd half.

    My concerns are with the OL and somewhat the OC/QB as we discussed yesterday. We don’t have Bill W or Holmgren running our O so we are somewhat limited in our flexibility and in our potential. With better ST play, our running game and a good D we should be a playoff team. It’s too soon to be excited or depressed IMHO

  180. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It is fortunate te that we play the Seahags later and also get the rematch with the Cards when we will be close to full strength.
    Also Dorsey might also return later in the season.
    Both of the Davis boys might be able to play this Sunsay.

  181. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Phil- The difference in the D is we got pressure on the QB. You might have heard me say this before, defensive lines win championships. Everybody likes to bow to the QB but a great QB can be neutralized by a great performance by the D-line. Plugging in Lynch gave us what we needed. This coming game he will probably see some double teams. Let’s se how he can handle that. If that does happen it should help Brooks look better. People are saying Brooks is not playing well. What they do not understand is Lemoneir brought nothing so Brooks got the extra attention he did not get when Aldon is in the game. Against Philly Lynch got the one on one blocking. And he beat it. Having another good player the offense has to worry about really helps. Especially against Philly who had some replacements on the line.

  182. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The defense played a great game against a team with 1 starter on their O line. They were playing with 4 backups. So a grain of salt must be put on this jizz fest. I sure hope we can get pressure on a depleted unit like that.

    The good news was the DBs were all on the same page. No miscommunication and no mistakes. Bethea had a great game.

    Funny that Bullit doesn’t understand anything about the English language. He just makes shit up to fit his idiotic view of reality. If I repeat something that someone said, it doesn’t means i believe it or endorse it. If you think there’s nothing to all the turmoil going on around the team for the past 5 months, then your head is either in the sand, or so far up your ass, your eyes are brown.

    Gee, remember a couple days ago when Bullit went away, and there was no whining about what others posted? I miss those days.

  183. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    It’s also fortunate that you are here to state the obvious and toe the party line, Bullit.

    So all this is being made up by sportswriters with nothing better to do? There was nothing to the Harbaugh trade? All of this is imagined? Right. Keep telling yourself that.

  184. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- The Bears had two replacements on the O-line and we did not get any pressure. Cutler ended up picking us apart. I don’t care how many replacements Philly had, we finally got some pressure on an opposing QB.

  185. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve been a big fan of Lynchs potential since we drafted him and I learned his history at Notre Dame and even at So. Florida where his highlight film was impressive. Kid needed home cooking and support I suppose but was glad we got him in 5th on recommendation of one of their coaches to Jimi. He’s really been an eye-opener of the rookie draftees. Like to root for the underdog and see them excel. He likes the Niner chefs!

    Yes the DL ‘was’ a concern with Cowboy coming off injury, Ray Mac frame up, Ian W injury issues, Aldon out, Brooks aging, etc, etc. Lemonier a disappointment for sure. So nice to see Aaron L coming on. As Bullit mentioned we have Dorsey to look forward to hopefully as the season wears on into 2nd half. If by our 9th game (NO 11/9) we are 5-3 (3-1 in our next 4) I will be happy. Perhaps we lose to Denver or Rams once. I’m more concerned about our OL tho

  186. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Dilfer, as Maiocco and Bullit point out, did NOT say “anything” about the wished for disarray in our locker room. A careful reading, or even a casual one, makes clear Dilfer was talking about his own area of expertise = O looking toxic, lethargic.

    Same subject we’ve been mulling over. Nothing about rats FWIW.

  187. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t get me wrong, Bergs. I was very happy to see the pressure. It was desperately needed. Lynch being the big improvement over Lemonyay. KC has a pretty good line so I think it’ll be harder to get pressure than it was this weekend. Having siad that, the DBs played a totally different game than they had the previous couple weeks.

    Dilfer made the statement that he thought the locker room was ‘almost toxic’ after hearing Deion say what he said on Sunday.

    It was the NEXT DAY, after the MNF game, that Trent backpedaled furiously and said what he did about body language and solely basing it on his sideline observations.

    What I said on my blog makes perfect sense. This disinformation campaign is coming from the front office. Why is it that the national reporters are the ones to report this shit? The beat writers are with the team all week, and except for Kawakami’s hard-on for Harbaugh, even he hasn’t said anything about how the players are treated like children. None of the day to day writers hear about any of this. But Ian Rappaport has an inside track? Deion Sanders is getting tidbits from Crabs? No. He’s talking to a suit. Deion said he’s talking to a suit, not a player. Ergo, this smear campaign is coming from inside the building.

    They are the ones that considered trading him in the first place.

  188. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, I suppose you and everyone else will believe what they want. For some reason unknown to me J. Martin has a cumulative pass block grade of 1.0 for weeks 1-4. So does A.Davis.

    Iupati gave up a sack and a QB hit in week one and received a -1.8 pass block grade for the game. Martin gave up a sack and a QB hurry in week four and gets a 0.1 pass block grade for it. I know he was AWOL on a bunch of other plays, too, so I can’t explain his grade being anything positive.

    If you ask me he wasn’t graded on a lot of his whiffs because he was nowhere around the guy he was supposed to block and they couldn’t score him down not knowing what his assignment actually was. Whatever.

    His Overall grade is -4.9. The worst of anyone, with Boone next at -4.5 and Joe Looney at -3.5

    Iupati grades overall at 3.7 far above the next best lineman. So if you want to think Martin is our best blocker I can only say it’s a good thing you can’t see the games.

  189. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, no one by that name on the DSC or Silver Star award list for OEF/OIF. (Actions since 9/11/01)

  190. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear, are you and Phil using the same numbers from the same source??

    If so, then I really doubt their veracity. Must be true of its on the internet though.

  191. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I’m just quoting from Jack Hammer on Martin as attributed. I don’t have access to PFF stats and unlike Berger I don’t care enough for stats to get them. So Hammer is right = Martin according to PFF is our best pass pro OL. Got it. Yeah A Davis was pretty good too for the 15 minutes he played Do I seriously think Martin’s our best OL when you consider run blocking? No, that’s a joke relax.

  192. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Well maybe. Found this thoughtful article by Bay Area Sports Guy and he gives credence to the idea the FO are behind reports of “trouble with Jim”.

    http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/despite-sources-efforts-fans-arent-souring-on-harbaugh/

    Comments are interesting too. Maybe Spitblood is on to something regarding Jed being an idiot. Wouldn’t be the first owner who thought he was more important than the coach. So enjoy this season because between the new coach Jed is (still) looking for and the refs taking over games we may be at the high water mark right now. Author is right tho = there will be a hellacious backlash of pissed fans ignoring the 7-9 Niners under new management.

  193. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I like Spitblood; he’s a passionate Niner fan who goes over the top at times. Here’s his condensed take (in comments) regarding Jed:

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2014/09/30/jim-harbaugh-draws-support-from-locker-room-jonathan-martin-calls-him-best-coach-ive-been-around/comment-page-1/#comment-128055

    I hope he’s wrong but this keeps coming outta NFL Network so maybe not. If not and Jimi hits the road my wish is we win a SB before the nosedive.

  194. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil I think the basic premise of the discord is Jim not getting through the big games.
    We’re one-dimensional.

    Looking back to the SB, we know there was some questionable play calling at the end that cost us.
    Crabtree, Crabtree, Crabtree.
    There’s a dependency on him in clutch moments and we’re still showing that tendency since the SB.
    Another issue in the SB, play clock issues continue today.

    We’ve relied heavily on Kaeps legs to get through the Playoffs while continuing to have challenges with a passing game even today.

    Jed seeks guidance from Uncle Eddie too.
    Who was less patient with a HC than Eddie with Bill?
    I think Jim is handicapped beyond a power running game.

    We’ll see where it goes in the weeks ahead.

  195. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Play calling and clock management, along with a lack of a balanced attack in big moments all come back to bite us.

    I was fuming Sunday vs Philly when we couldn’t get 1 1st down to ice the game.
    Good teams find ways to do that pretty consistently.
    If we can get over that hurdle as an Offense, without exposing Kaep to LBs and DBs in the open field, we should see better results.

    Teams have figured us out thus far.
    Send the house into Kaeps’ face and blow up the Offense.

    That has to improve if we expect to contend this year.

  196. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I still feel that a shorter/quicker passing game would bring a much needed remedy to what ails us.

    Kaep would be forced to make a quick decision, the OLine wouldn’t be getting hammered as frequently and, beating a blitz can result in bigger gains.

    Yes, it’s still early and they’re trying some new approaches with the passing game.
    Hopefully it will pick up some rhythm before we lose too many more leads.

  197. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Yep our O is the weak point for us including some aspects coaching, QB development, passing schemes, OL woes. clock mgmt and predictability in general. The fire sale on ST players almost cost us against Philly too. Harbaugh is something like 46-13-1 and yes has not won the big ones. That’s forgiveable given his w-l ratio. It would be nice to think he’s replaceable but I don’t think so w/o trauma and much time. This is avoidable but FO ‘seems’ to have more fingerprints on phoney leaks to NFL Inc. Dumb,dumb, dumb.

    I disagree w/ Spitwad that he ‘should’ be GM too. Too much even for Belichek and Baalke’s doing fine (scratch 2012 draft). If Harbaugh walks with or without a trophy it will be another long, cold York induced dark age. And plenty pissed fans to boot

  198. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry I was having a Seifert flashback: Niners under Jimi are actually 43-16-1 not 46-13-1.

  199. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    There’s lots of varying opinions regarding Jed, Harbaugh and Baalke Phil.
    None of us know what goes on behind closed doors.

    I’d like to think it’s a personality thing more so than a Coaching thing.
    Jim’s tirades on the sideline give us a glimpse of how intense he is.
    However, as a HC, you’d expect more self control.

    Granted, I like his record too but, I’m trying to be impartial to the process of bad publicity.
    There’s plenty to speculate about with the arrests, the evaporating leads and the lack of Offensive balance we’ve seen.

    Given our shortcomings, which continue to this day, regarding the Offense, I feel as though it’s warranted to challenge the notion that Jim may be nothing more than a power running specialist.

    Maybe he won’t relinquish Roman, maybe he feels he can correct things?

    Again, he’s going to have to out coach Pete, and others, in the big games to succeed this year IMO.

    Fingers crossed that he finds the next gear.

  200. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Between the injury to Crabtree, the dumping of AJ Jenkins, Boobie gone along with Ginn we didn’t have much more last year than VD and Anquan to catch passes. We had to run = pretty one dimensional and it cost us at the end. I think we will have a better test this year with S Johnson, Bling, Ellington on board. Share your angst that we may not be able to scheme our weapons open and will struggle to keep Kaepernick upright in pocket. I think we’ll be effective and already show signs so not worried yet.

    Harbaugh = just a power running specialist. Yikes!

  201. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- Sounds like you used the same list I was using. I saw the medal so I it is real. I’m pretty sure it was the Silver Star but I could be wrong on which medal it is.

  202. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    IMO the power running game we ran last year is cave man, overload the holes and try to outnumber them. The defense can always outnumber that strategy. It’s like Grant vs Lee in the Civil War. Lee always had the good strategy, Grant always had Lee outnumbered. Grant won.

    This year we actually have to have some ability to think. The problem is our opponents are still outnumbering the blocking schemes. With the new offense there are ways to make them pay for that much better than the old offense. We are not making them pay so we will continue to get our blocking schemes out numbered.

    We made Arizona pay in the first half but in the second half they covered the short routes. our team did not adjust to that. Was that a failure by the players or the coaches? That is a good question. Probably more on the coaches but I don’t know for sure. When the shorts are covered often it is time for a pump fake and double move, unfortunately that takes a little more time in the pocket that we often are not getting.

    Since this offense is new to the coaches I feel they are learning how to make adjustments and the learning process is not kind in the NFL. But I also feel that our coaching staff is smart enough to figure this out very soon. It would have been nice that in the off-season we get a coach with previous experience running this offense to advise and help speed the learning curve. Since they didn’t they’ll just have to learn from their mistakes. In the meantime, this is the right offense to run in the NFL. It is balanced and a solid running or passing game can be generated using the formations it presents.

    But then they go back to the Sardine Can Offense in crunch time and don’t get first downs and TDs in the red zone to ice the game. Baby steps I guess.

  203. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The good news is, it’s early. There’s time to work this out. The problem is, the O line is not doing well at all trying this new offense. Without Gore picking up blitzes every time, teams are pressuring up the middle at will. We can’t block 4 let alone pick up a blitz. It’s hard to use these new weapons when there’s no time to get the ball to them. It’s hard to run set plays (and boy do our set plays take time) when WRs can’t get through their routes.

    They need to quicken the plays. I liked the start of the AZ game with the quick passes, but once AZ took that away, we had no counter. They simply rushed every time and dared us to do something different. We didn’t. No delayed draws, nothing to take advantage of their aggressiveness. The other thing was, Kappy either ran (12 times) or threw (37 + 1 sack) on 50 of the 61 plays. I get putting the new offense in, but that’s just nuts.

    Chirp Chirp, Bullitt.

  204. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Many teams run this ‘new’ offense. Defenses have a good idea of how to play against it. An offense must be balanced and play calling is tantamount. When run correctly there is no defense that can stop it except really good D-line play. When the blocking up front is suspect there are plays that can be called but the blocking can’t just fail like it has for us so far. Also, in game adjustments by the staff has been poor. We’ve run the cave man offense for so long it is what we know. Running it well still loses big games so learning a new more balanced offense is important moving forward. They need to get this right.

  205. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    What the hell is wrong with this? My posts disappeared, reappeared, and disappeared again, and then reappeared.

    You pulling the wrong levers, Skeebs?

    Imagine my shock when a post disappeared. Name variations are banned?

    Too cute.

  206. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I haven’t deleted any of your posts, Chuck. I suspect user error.

  207. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    This blog and some others do that. I suspect it has something to do with my computer. New posts will appear and now and then go away only to reappear later. I did see Bullit got a post deleted.

  208. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    PEBKAC

    (problem exists between keyboard and chair)

  209. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You broke the internet Bergs? Mighty proud of ya . . .

  210. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, DoD list, current. I think you’re full of shit. Seeing a medal means shit. You can order as many as you want yourself. Also these medals you are talking about are pretty distinctive. DSC in the shape of a cross. Silver Star, yeah, a star. Second highest award? what’s it called? maybe a SS? no unit, no first name. Sounds about like your football theories. Stolen valor is a crime.

  211. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- As a human being you are a piece of crap nothing. Any respect I had for you I just lost.

  212. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Vets can be mighty touchy about valor and honor as well they should be since it is their butts/bodies/lives on the line for our benefit. Thank you NF and all vets who serve with honor.

    Anecdote: I found this out in my freshman year at Santa Clara U in 1966 when I was wearing an old Army surplus jacket with a bunch of medals I put on there that I had won on the swim team. I was accosted in the dining hall by a group of older students/vets questioning me on them. Fortunately they were legit medals earned by me on a non-standard uniform. But I did not make a habit of wearing that costume afterwards!

  213. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Our analysis above on the state of the O seems spot on. So along with NJ, Berger and the rest I await the results of our efforts at progress with new formations, schemes and personnel. KC should be a good test with their stronger O line for our D too. I think we’re going to be a lot tougher on O even with our issues than NE was. (How could we be worse?) Getting A Davis back is a big deal for us. Is J Martin an upgrade over Snyder? Doubtful. How about our new center over Goodwin? Doubtful right now, maybe in the future.

    All will be revealed on the field

  214. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    ESPN just gave a pretty telling stat:
    94/46

    That first # is Kappy’s QBR throwing outside the pocket.
    The second? Kappy IN the pocket (such as it is).

  215. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Crabtree has refuted what Chuck believes on Twitter
    https://twitter.com/KingCrab15/status/516962477351788544

  216. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I really don’t get the glee some feel when this BS about Harbaugh
    comes up especially if you’re a Niner fan.
    Guess some like losing.
    Chuck suggested the New Orleans OC as a viable replacement.
    Are you kidding?
    If Harbaugh leaves as the coach it will be two steps back.
    Some just can’t handle success and forget how it was before Harbaugh came aboard.

  217. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes that’s interesting RT, what a difference.

    So tell me again why Roman doesn’t have Kap rolling out in a moving pocket instead of standing behind Kilgore, Martin, Looney?

  218. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    About Deion’s comments on the Niner locker room Kap said this today in his press conference
    “”I’d like to know who the source is,” the 49ers offensive co-captain said. “So when you get a source from that, then we can talk about that. Until then, that’s the media.”

    Not the company line but I just don’t buy that everyone is against the coach and there is yet to be solid proof.

  219. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit the worst case scenario about this leak crap is the one Spitwad made: it is going on with Jed’s approval. It’s also the most ‘logical’ explanation. If so, and I surely hope not, small minds will kill the golden goose and Jimi goes elsewhere to our extreme detriment.

    Some people think this would be a good thing possibly including our FO which is hard to believe but possible given York and Debartolo history of owner/coach relations. So let’s enjoy what we have this season because you never know

  220. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niner Nation and Fooch have an article about Niner players steeping up to defend Harbaugh.
    http://www.ninersnation.com/2014/10/1/6884303/jim-harbaugh-locker-room-comments-colin-kaepernick-patrick-willis-navorro-bowman

    This flies in the face of constant shit disturber Mike Florio who asked the same question but failed to do his research. he didn’t realize Willis, Bowman and Kap have defended their coach.
    Gore called this nonsense earlier in the season.

  221. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    No way it’s a player or a group of players. That leaves prime suspect #1 = media shills like Florio or prime suspect #2 = media + FO bozos including Jed which is the paranoid position. But just because yer paranoid doesn’t mean it’s not real.

    Could be, sadly…

  222. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    No, Bullit. Not every player is against Harbaugh. But whether or not you and every other company man would like to think different, not every player is *with* Harbaugh either.

    And that’s the goddamn problem. In order to win a Super Bowl, it takes all 53 players and the entire coaching staff tugging on the same rope and in the same direction. They may all tow the “company line” when it comes to press conferences, but that doesn’t fly when it comes to playing on the field.

    We all know that Crabtree was the source of Deion’s comments. I don’t give a shit what’s been said, Crabtree is the effing source. And look at his play last Sunday. Those poor routes he ran, those drops he had and that “injury” he incurred. You think that was just a coincidence?

    That was a direct slap in Harbaugh’s face. Crabtree is not happy here. And neither was the other rat, LMJ, and there’s a whole bunch of other dirty rodents who despise Jimbo and would like to rat him out.

    I’m sure Deion and Dilfer are just making this shit up because they have nothing better to do and they have an ax to grind with Harbaugh.

    Nothing better to do with an ax to grind with Harbaugh? Who does that sound like? Maybe Deion and Dilfer are getting their info from yours truly.

    Bullit, you going to root for Harbaugh when he’s coaching Michigan next year?

    I’m going to be rooting that Harbaugh dies from slow eye cancer. Just like I’ve been doing ever since he lost to Joe effing Flacco in the Super Bowl.

    Asshole should have died right on the spot then.

    The San Francisco Forty Niners DON’T lose Super Bowls.

    Did we fire Jim Harbaugh yet?

  223. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    Hey, Phil. Did you stop believing in God yet?

    I’ll tell ya this. Jim Harbaugh has a better chance of winning a Super Bowl than you and every other believer does of ever reaching the “Promised Land.”

    Quit while you’re behind.

    Sorry. I had to cut this comment because time was running short and I had burn my third and final time out.

    Go Michigan!

  224. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Denny Downers usual commentary.
    Morbid and the same old crap.

  225. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Denny

    No talk anymore about Peyton or Tom Brady?
    Have you leaped off the bandwagon?
    Is Andy Dalton your QB du Jour?

  226. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Marcus Martin has limited practice today, a good thing. Fact.

    Conjecture: He swears he hasn’t lost his religion, still loves the Niners and its head coach. He hopes Jimi sticks around and continues to do what he’s doing because “He’s the best thing since Vince Lombardi and he doesn’t whine, piss or moan. He’s not one of those negative nancys for sure.” Martin believes the Niners are the best team in football and that includes soccer. He has no opinion on the Walsh/Montana/Seifert/Young teams as “those were my grandfathers people, we got this now, that’s not my religion, this is”.

    Marcus also offered to give any despondent Niner fans a big hug upon request but then ruined it when he added “Except Kilgore. I hate Kilgore that bum”

  227. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Romo Bullit. Don’t fergit Romo fer cry-sake!

  228. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    All it takes is one disgruntled guy speaking on condition of anonymity to start a story.

    I’ve suspected the source to be someone involved with the Offense, namely a WR not seeing balls thrown his way often enough.

    That might eliminate Crabtree, to some degree, since he’s been primary target #1.
    But, he can’t be happy with the throws he’s seen, both in the SB and NFCCG last year, since they all bombed when it mattered.

    There’s also very good reason for anyone on Defense to have issues with the Offense, like not scoring enough points to take the pressure off of them.

    My contentions have been well documented here and elsewhere.
    We have issues scoring points.
    It ain’t Baalke, it ain’t Jed.

    It’s a weakness inherent to the Coaching Staff.
    No balance, no answers to beat a blitz.
    4th year and we still can’t get plays off on time with any consistency?

    Yeh, Baalke sucks.

  229. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Just don’t lose your religion NJ. As long as you’re a fan we can disagree all day long but in the end will root for the success of the team.

  230. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke isn’t going to make a move to trash the locker room without Jed’s okay so it is very unlikely to be coming from him which some of us thought last year. If it’s Baalke then Jed’s given his okay to do it which is sinister and weird but still possible. I really hope that’s not true. Likely to be just media crap as Kap and Jimi have said recently.

  231. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil they’re going to bury me in a 9er Jersey someday my friend.
    I’m here to vent if nothing else.

    Just getting extremely frustrated with our lack of creativity and inconsistencies on Offense.

    No worries.
    A bigger 9er lifer doesn’t exist to my knowledge 😀

  232. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    Bullit, are you serious? You want me to make excuses for and/or defend Tom Brady and Peyton Manning?

    That’s a goddamn insult. That’s a personal affront. I know you’re trying to “Prick your Needle” at Arya and myself, but it’s not going to happen. We’re sicking the “Hound” on your ass.

    May Sandor Glegane and Cersei Lannister have a pox on your house.

  233. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    This story about the rat in the clubhouse is just not important to me. Find me a clubhouse where 100% of the players are happy. My guess is it doesn’t happen. So Deion stated something he perceived as breaking news and he now feels more important. It could be in the front office. So be it. Give me the source and I might be interested in this waste of time story. In the meantime, let’s get this offense fired up. IMO it starts with the blocking up front.

  234. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Generally this kind of story is meant for the other 31 teams in the NFL.
    Some so called Niner “fans” also bask in this story with a certain amount of glee that I don’t get.
    Chuck is still going with the Harbaugh is up for trade scenario
    which is curious. We are in midseason. Any changes now would signal the season as lost.
    The comment that Harbaugh lost a Super Bowl is laughable considering the many years when this team didn’t even sniff the playoffs.
    Sorry Denny but your comments offend Niner fans on a daily basis.

  235. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    Bullit, if my comments offend you and other 49er fans of the same ilk, I would seriously suggest checking your 49er fandom.

  236. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    Comment: Jim Harbaugh LOST the Super Bowl. I’m not laughing.

  237. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, the rat isn’t a player. When Deion says he got his info from a suit, that was the kicker for me. He got the word from upstairs. Meaning this is a smear tactic. This is the ploy Jed used to get the Singletary firing heading on the right track. That situation however, there was a lot of disgruntlement in the locker room, so it wasn’t a hard sell.

    Jed’s hedging his bet that if this season goes south, he can decide not to re-up Harbaugh. If he does it out of the blue, the fan base would be furious. They likely will be anyway, but if he sows enough doubt, it’ll tip the scales in less of a bad light.

    Internet unrequited love. If all you think about is me, Bullit, that’s just creepy. Please move on and stop lying. Troll. I’m very sorry you don’t possess enough intelligence to glean what I post and instead fabricate your own conclusions.

  238. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Seriously, Bullit. And this is a real question. Not just my pandering to your feeble mind. Who is behind ALL this stuff coming out re: the Harbaugh trade, the disgruntlement with practices, the talk that players are treated like children, and now this losing-the-team shit?

    Do you think that Deion Sanders and the NFL (who he works for, BTW) came up with this stuff as a complete fabrication? These are utter lies?

    Was the trade to Cleveland a lie? Who was behind that? Did the beat writers pick up on ANY of this so-called disgruntlement? And this includes Tim Kawakami, who has a MAJOR hard-on to make Harbaugh look bad.

    No and no. As far as the writers who are with the team all week, and all weekend, they didn’t glean anything about this stuff. No complaining about Harbaugh losing the team.

    I find it very curious that national guys like Ian Rappaport (another NFL employee, BTW) and Blinky Sanders are the ones to break this. Why? Because that gets the attention of the so-called ‘journalists’ who like to break stories about team turmoil. Look at Dildo. He jumped all over this, and when cornered, back-pedaled furiously to state, “body language!”

    What a joke.
    __________________________________________________________

    Yes, Bullit is the arbiter of fan behavior. Unflinching loyalty until the bad new passes. Then its 20/20 hindsight as to why he’s right and everyone else is stupid.

    Based on his posts, I don’t think he’s seen a game where he hasn’t emerged from behind his mom’s skirts yet. Too messy and vulgar.

  239. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    ” As a human being you are a piece of crap nothing. Any respect I had for you I just lost.”

    Well, now you just sound like my ex, Berger. Football IQ, too.

  240. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Your ex is obviously a smart woman.

  241. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ahhh, ain’t blogging fun?

  242. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Is that you, Candice?

  243. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I just read an article about Jim Harbaugh on ESPN. It all makes sense to me now. I’ve managed many sales teams. We always do great and break records. Problem is never I end up with much of a relationship with the management above me. My sales people always love me but my bosses usually get tired of my demands from them. After all, aren’t they the ones who are supposed to demand from me? They hire me to turn around their losing sites and I always turn them around. But then when I tell them what I need from them they don’t want to do what is necessary. I go my way and their sales go back down. This has to be what is happening to Harbaugh, it just makes too much sense. He is very demanding and suits usually don’t like having to change their comfort zones.

  244. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    As long as those charges don’t go back to last year . . . Jesus.

    Either these bad deeds are finally coming to light, or these players are all going mad.

    Who will be the first to say CTE!

  245. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Good night Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp7r0j4XrO8

  246. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Humble guy, ain’tcha Bergs . . .

    Compare yourself to Harbaugh often? I’d have gone with Bill Walsh . . . Lay that shit on thick.

  247. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Good analogy Berger. Yes that sounds like what may be happening here. Lord knows Eddie could not tolerate BWs ‘pressure/presence’ of success. Eventually, boom Eddie imploded and Bill left.

    Eddie: You need more of what to win again? F that, you work fer me chump got it? Let’s see where’s that phone # of the Guv? I got real important work to do.

    Jeds apple has not fallen far from Eddies tree, the usual scenario. It’s a control thing = Jed wants to show he’s the boss not necessarily get rid of Jimi. But Jimi is handling this great = “It’s a load of crap”. IMHO they are negotiating the power and control structure of the SF Niners and how HC Jimi fits in. Your points are spot on

  248. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Wow Chuck is still running with the story that Harbaugh was on the trade block. Chuck always believes anonymous sources.
    Just show some tangible proof rather then gossip at a slow time for NFL news.
    Why would Deion lie? Cuz he needed a story.
    Boomer Esiason chimed in with this
    “I don’t think anybody should take too seriously Deion’s reporting,” he said, “other than it’s probably some disgruntled defensive back on that team that is probably not happy about how he’s been treated, so let’s open up a locker room wound and throw it out there. ‘See how we can make our coach squirm,’ which is idiotic, in my estimation.”

    And from Shutdown Corner Yahoo Sports

    “The reason why Sanders’ story has legs is because it’s believable on its face; Harbaugh is exactly the kind of coach that could burn out a locker room. However, innuendo isn’t reporting, and anonymous sources will only sustain one’s credibility so far. Sanders has said that his “sources wears [sic] uniforms, suits and ties,” which is a heck of a fashion combination. We’ll see if Deion’s San Francisco sources double down this weekend with a game at home against the suddenly powerful Chiefs.”

  249. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh was never close to being treaded. The owner of the Browns and Jed both said that The Browns called us and we said we said we weren’t interested. We had a very short delay before saying no but we did say no within an hour or two. If fact, I heard it was about a half an hour. That is a major non story.

  250. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Geez, The Pack sign a guy off the street who played all four prseason games before being cut, and he’s an immediate pass rushing impact player.

    Trent, you awake bud?

  251. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Signs of progress on O: Work in progress, baby steps…

    “The 49ers have converted 50 percent of their third-downs through four games to rank tied for fifth in the league. A year ago, the 49ers converted just 36 percent of the time and ranked 18th.

    Johnson alone has seven receptions on third downs, ranking tied for 10th in the NFC.”

    It’s not all bad w/ the Niners pass game folks

  252. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    RT we did get a similar talent in the 5th round = Aaron LYNCH. Recommended by U of So. Florida coach Willie Taggart to Jimi H. Baalke not in that loop I guess but Baalke has had a couple good drafts in a row now

  253. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NFL Draft was moved back a week earlier rather than later and
    will be in Chicago next year and rotate amongst NFL cities.

  254. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    How much is Aaron Lynch an upgrade over Lemonier?

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/10/03/49ers-lynch-shines-in-expanded-role/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=49ers-lynch-shines-in-expanded-role

    Pro Football Focus sez:

    “Lynch played 25 snaps (all pass plays) and earned a +3.1 overall grade while generating four QB pressures. One of Lynch’s two hits on Foles helped force an incompletion on 4th-and-Goal in the final minutes.

    Lynch rushed the passer on 24 of his 25 snaps, but it may have been his one play where he didn’t go after Foles that was his most impressive. On the Eagles’ final drive, Lynch quickly read a swing pass to Darren Sproles and snuffed out the play for a 4-yard loss.”

    Lemonier OTOH had a grade of -4.5 in 67 pass plays

  255. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

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  256. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Kisses to you too, Bullit.

    Try to post something once without my mane in it.

    Beyond the fact it took the team about a month to get the story straight around the trade, yeah, take it at face value.

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