Mezzanine Soup

Some pretty good games on tap next weekend, as they say in the barroom lingo of life. The top ticket is Detroit at Green Bay, with 676 seats avaiable from a low of $100. For you tightwadders or fixed incomers, there’s Carolina at Arizona, with 6,419 tickets still available from a low of $8 measley bucks. Houston at San Francisco, surprisingly, has 5,377 seats available from $60. Nosebleed specials, one and all, one would presume.

The sport multi-taskers among us may have noticed that the baseball playoffs have begun. Our local lads did not make the party this year, the hated Dodgers barely edging them out by 16 games, so there will be no bursts of baseball cheering or hissing interfering with Niner games in October this fall. Undivided attention as the team zooms up the standings with four straight wins and arrives at the halfway point in the season with the same 6-2 mark as last year.

The 49ers did a little roster shuffling Tuesday, cutting rookie QB BJ Daniels and one week layover FB Owen Marecic, then signing a failed 2nd round Patriot LB, You Could Look It Up, and failed Arizona QB John Skelton. Needless to say, none of these actions will probably have any bearing on the 2013 season and if they do, it won’t be a good thing. Still, silent movie star GM Trent Baalke likes to pop up and do something every now and then to assure us he’s still holding down his job.

LT Joe Staley’s near death experience in the Rams game over what turned out to be a simple, little owie has made Joe the butt of locker room jokes this week, and even he’s laughing at himself. But the way teammates hovered around his fallen corpse in that game, while 49er fans everywhere held their breath, served to underscore just how valuable the big galoot has become to this team. He’s probably the most unreplaceable guy on the offensive line.

It’s probably no surprise why he and ex-49er QB Alex Smith became such good friends. Neither one of them got much respect early in their careers. Smith still doesn’t get much respect, but Staley is now recognized as one of the premier left tackles in the game.

And he’s going to have maybe his biggest challenge of the season in Sunday’s game against Houston. He’ll be tasked with containing the Texans’ superstar havoc wreaker JJ Watt. That is going to be a fascinating battle to watch.

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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Thought this was worth reposting
    “Houston restaurant has a new burger on it’s menu.
    It’s called the Matt Schaub burger. You have a choice of toppings, you pick six and then pay dearly for it.”

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Why do players go on Twitter?
    LMJ might have greased the wheels to getting traded.
    Baalke should call Chip Kelly.
    LMJ still can’t pass block so that limits his value.
    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/james-deletes-tweet-referencing-frustration-role

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s a theory about the signing of Skelton.
    Our next 4 games are against teams with statues as QBs.
    We face Schaub, Palmer, Fitzpatrick and Gabbert.
    The role of the 3rd string QB is to simulate the opposing QB and run their offense.
    Skelton makes a good statue.
    It seems that Daniels wasn’t showing enough progress to be kept on the 53.
    A lot of the decisions are based on their performance in practices and based on the move might indicate BJs plateaued.

  4. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    BJ also shined in pre-season. A place where athletic strong arm QBs often shine. Hopefully we can get him back on the practice squad.

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I should have added to my last post that I would much rather have BJ Daniels than John Skelton.

  6. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, LMJ is right. For a team with little speed in the backfield, he’d be a welcome change of pace. He did fine in his role last year when the RB corps were decimated by injury. Run him wide on pitches and use him for (gasp) screen passes.
    .
    I don’t get the BJ move at all. Unless they PS him. I’d think he’ll get picked up though. Just like Lavelle Hawkins did. Then again, I didn’t get the Marecic move either.

  7. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The point being, LMJ does very well on the outside. USE HIM! This smacks of Brian Westbrook.

  8. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    My point was and I think LMJ realized it finally, don’t bitch about internal things that should stay in the locker room on Twitter.
    Talk to your coaches and tell them how you feel rather than go on a public PR campaign.
    Ask Brandon Jacobs how that worked out for him last year.

  9. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What I don’t get is that we have 53 on the roster. They all get paid the same whether they suit up or no. Why doesn’t the NFL just let all 53 suit up on each team? Staley would have been on the bench last week instead of on the field and LMJ would not be complaining. It costs the same either way. Things that make you go, hmmm!!!

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The guy on the roster I don’t get is Raymond Ventrone.
    He’s supposed to be a special teams ace but he has no tackles and has yet to appear on the stat sheet after 4 games.
    He’s supposedly Andy Lee’s protector but there have been some
    punts that have been close to being blocked.
    Having Bruce Miller or Craig Dahl there would free up a roster spot.
    Ventrone to me is a luxury and I’m waiting for him to make a tackle.

  11. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, I agree. I understand having a practice squad, to develop players. But having an inactive list, when you’re paying them to play anyway… No. I don’t see why they do it that way. Except that the NFL is a weird organization and keeps its own counsel.
     
    How about this for round numbers: have a roster of 50, all active on game day, and a PS of 10. And loosen up the experience limits on the PS, so young players who get squeezed off a roster after a year or two can get a second chance.

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    All I can say is REALLY???
    Per Maiocco
    “49ers veteran safety Donte is serious. His lawyer filed paperwork yesterday in Ohio to have his name legally changed from Whitner to Hitner.”
    Hitner’s not thinking.
    Substitute a L for the N and it’s a very bad choice.

  13. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, that just paves the way for his name change to Shitner in a couple years.

  14. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, the not-suiting-up thing is new to me. Is it 6 per game that don’t dress? I’d never heard of that until these last couple years.

  15. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I thought that was a hockey deal.

  16. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    BJ Daniels claimed by Seahawks.

  17. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Seven inactives, used to be eight. I think the idea is to mitigate the effects of injured players week by week and being able to keep some on the roster and still field more or less equal competition.
     
    Think of the 53 as an injury expansion of the 46 active roster.

  18. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Big test for our guys in Red&Gold this week. So far good D’s have stomped the crap out of us. As if we needed more reasons to hate to Seawhatevers.

  19. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Try and follow the logic here: John Skelton was beat out by Josh Johnson, who was beat out by Scott Tolzien, who was beat out by BJ Daniels. Who is now in enemy territory up in Seattle.
     
    You can’t. Even Mr. Spock couldn’t figure out that QB exchange it was so illogical. Harbaugh and Baalke are making it easier by the day for me to hate them and this team with a passion.
     
    Go Raiders!

  20. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- That is a reasonable explanation. I don’t agree but I do understand. Thanks.

  21. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What I meant is I don’t agree with the NFL.

  22. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Denny

    The Raiduh game is at 8:35 on Sunday.
    You can BART to the game.
    Have fun with your new team.

  23. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- I do feel Del’s pain about BJ Daniels. I liked that kid.

  24. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Aldon impacted the 53 man roster obviously.
    Losing Ian didn’t help either.
    They gave BJ a roster spot to protect him while they took a longer look.
    Safe to say the roster spot was more important to other positions.
     
    WIth the injury to Locker in TN, perhaps scooping up Skelton could loosen the need for McCoy too?
     
    I’m not too concerned for the BJ loss at this point.
    Just ironic how it forced Seattle to use a roster spot to get him away from us too.
    The chess game continues in the NFC West.

  25. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    The 49ers might be thinking with all the QBs in next year’s draft, they can find a stronger long-term developmental project than BJ.

  26. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    As much as some liked BJ Daniels
    you have to trust the coaches that see him everyday in practice and in meetings.
    He obviously wasn’t progressing fast enough in Harbaugh’s eyes.
    Daniels was supposed to overtake McCoy and take over the backup job in the grand scheme.
    Harbaugh saw more potential in Skelton than in Daniels so the move was made.

  27. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe they are thinking that BJ is too short to contribute in the NFL, like Russell Wilson!

  28. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t think the 49ers drafted Daniels to be a QB and then he just took a roster spot at QB. Since he is a 3rd string QB I’m not going to worry about it too much. But now and then a player comes around that you just like, even though they are buried on the depth chart. Daniels was one of those guys for me.

  29. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t buy that for one second, Bullitt. Coaches can become very myopic in regard to what they think they see. They are human like the rest of us.
    ” ”
    You think Cincy fans are happy watching Ahmad Brooks and Justin Smith flourish in the NFL? The Cincy coaches had a front row seat to them and for whatever reason felt they were expendable.

  30. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    I was feeling the same thing
    about Tolzein last year but he didn’t progress as a backup.
    Bill Ring was one of the most beloved Niners who actually didn’t do much numbers wise.
    Thought to be an overachiever he actually posted modest results.
    He played for 6 years and totaled 732 yds rushing and 8 TDs in his career.
    Paul Hofer was another although his numbers were more impressive
    3380 yds total offense and 21 TDs
    in a six year career.
    On this roster Bruce Miller would most likely fill that spot.

  31. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hofer and Ring were much different. Hofer was the starting RB for much of the shitty 70s. Ring was a 3rd string RB and occasional KR. Not sure what your point is, besides.
     
    Hofer was as tough as they got, and toiled in obscurity only to get injured during the Super Bowl run of 1981.

  32. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Is Whitner really going through with this silly name change nonsense? I thought he was just trying to make a point about these new BS, pussy can’t hit any more rules (which I strongly concur with him) that are now in place.
     
    Donte “Hitner” Really? That smacks of “He Hate Me” and the old XFL. Our organization is now truly second-rate. And fans wonder why the rest of the country mocks and makes fun of our Raiders. Bring back Dead Al.

  33. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Donte is going to force venerable and distinguished broadcasters like Ted Robinson (KNBR), Thom Brennaman, Dick Stockton and Al Michaels just to name a few to call him “Hitner?”
     
    Those announcers will be laughing underneath their breath and shaking their head each and every time. Our organization is becoming a true laughingstock. I hope Dead Al left his overhead projector in the closet. I need to start firing some of our current Raiders, post haste.

  34. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    There seems to be a lot you don’t get.
    You don’t buy talent evaluation by people that do it for a living?
    Leave it to the armchair bloggers
    like yourself?
    I think I’ll go with the opinion of a pro who sees a guy practice
    everyday and is actually his boss
    and whose decisions impact his paycheck.
    Get back to me when Daniels actually plays a down in a NFL game and excels.

  35. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    NFL rules stipulate that if Whitner changes his name, he’ll first have to buy up all the NFL jerseys with “Whitner” still on them. Don’t know how many are out there, but maybe money out the pocketbook will bring a change of heart.

  36. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bad choice to use Justin Smith as an example. The Bengals actually franchised him the year before the Niners signed him.
    He came to the Niners because the Bengals didn’t want to match the $45 mil the Niners offered.
    The Bengals knew he was an elite player, Mike Brown was too cheap to pay him.
    As for Ahmad Brooks the Niners just got lucky.
    They picked Brooks up on waivers
    and waived him themselves.
    “On August 31, 2008, Brooks was claimed off waivers by the San Francisco 49ers. The team released linebacker Dontarrious Thomas to make room for Brooks. The 49ers waived Brooks on November 29 to make room for wide receiver Chris Hannon, but re-signed Brooks on December 2 after Hannon was waived.”
    Everyone in the NFL had a free shot at Brooks but nobody claimed him.

  37. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, I don’t know if you were going into “Company Man” mode overboard, but if they signed Skelton to play a “statue” on the scout team…well, our Raiders have truly gone off the deep end.

  38. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Hofer was actually a pretty productive guy for a year or two. He beat out the shambling wounded zombie of OJ and held the starting job for 2 years. He was just too damned small and fragile. Walsh said before 1980 that if he could stay healthy for a whole season, he’d total a thousand yards rushing. Of course the opposite happened – Hofer had his knee basically destroyed in the rout by the Cowboys that year. But he was way more effective than Ring, who was mainly a ST contributor and backup.

  39. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Which was my point exactly Grump. I totally dug Hofer for making the best of a really bad situation. He was as tough as they got, but he just got waylaid by the game. Never a complaint or bitch. Especially after getting too banged up to play when the team got good. He did get a ring, so there’s comfort in that.
     
    Ring was the Rudy of his day. Nothing more.

  40. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    “Company man overboard.” Too bad there isn’t a post-of-the-day here, Dennis. That’s a winner.
     
    Talk to the Bengals fans about bad choices, not me. Coaches miss things all the time. Some coaches get more out of players than others.
     
    If you think Skelton has more upside than Daniels, well, go with it.

  41. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Actually, Hofer may have tried to sue the team regarding those knee injuries after his career ended. I seem to remember something like that.

  42. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Josh Freeman released by Bucs.

  43. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Skelton has been a starter in the NFL and won 8 games he started.
    He has thrown for 15 TDs.
    Let me know when Daniels sees the field and surpasses any of these numbers.

  44. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, Hofer did sue after some years and settle out of court. He ended up having his knee replaced. most of the guys on those teams of the 60s / 70s / 80s paid a hell of a price for their time in the NFL. A lot of them can barely walk now. Dwight Clark cannot get his arms up over his shoulders. Montana has all kinds of problems; spine, neck, nerves in his face.

  45. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Hofer only started 19 games in 6 years and 13 in his 2 most productive seasons.
    It took Hofer 4 years to become a starter.
    I still have my “Roaring Back” t shirt featuring Hofer but it’s 3 sizes too small.
    Hofer was an 11th round draft pick
    that hung tough and finally made it and actually became the face of the franchise.
    That was the original point of my post.

  46. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Yep. Hofer was about three sizes too small, too. If he’d been a little bigger or luckier he might have had a pretty good career, not only running but as a receiver out fo the backfield. He was the second guy like that we had out of Mississippi. The other was “Goober” – Doug Cunningham. Cunningham had about 50 catches his one good year in the late 60s. But again, he was just too damned small to stand up to the pounding.
     
    Being an NFL running back is tough duty for anyone – most don’t last very long – but for little guys, it’s even tougher.

  47. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of special teamers! Do you guys remember Milt McColl and Chuck Evans? Both were ST/LBs for the 49ers. McColl recovered a fumble just before halftime in our 1st SB appearance and Evans was also Bill Walsh’s accountant. Milt was my team mate in little league football and Chuck’s brother Mike was in my wedding. Chuck and his dad and I passed around a bottle of George Dickle 12 at Mikes wedding. For obvious reasons, those two are my favorite 49er special teams players.

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    McColl went to Stanford and a member of the “Thunderchickens”.
    That’s all I remember about him.

  49. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, I remember Milt McColl. Not Chuck Evans, though. I liked Ring cuz he’s a Belmont kid. Went to Carlmont.
    .
    The only reason Hofer didn’t start more was because OJ Simpson was forced into the starting role per Joe Thomas.
    .
    Point? Who the hell knows what the point of your posts are, Bullitt? I think the upside of a guy like Daniels is higher than a stiff like Red Skelton. I’m wrong for my opinion why? Oh, that’s right. Because we all must agree with skippy and the party line. If Harbaugh says it’s so, it’s so. Skelton sucks. But since he’s played some, he’s better? Right.

  50. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    McColl actually started 31 games for us at OLB. He was one of those guys who *obviously needed to be replaced*, but he kept beating out his competition. Blanchard Montgomery was a bust and then Todd Shell wasn’t much better because he couldn’t stay healthy and had off the field issues. I think after he left we basically dropped his spot as the 4th LB and went with Haley as a full-time elephant, which was really a 4-3.
     
    I dimly remember Evans was in camp with us – remember him more from the Stanford teams – but I don’t think he made it out of camp, or maybe he got hurt. Pro Football Reference shows him playing parts of ’80 and ’81 with the Saints.

  51. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I remember McColl had a brother, Duncan McColl, who’d been a good D-lineman at Stanford, too. I think he may have had a free agent shot with the Bears, and I *think* we may have had him in the next year, but he never made either team.

  52. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ahhh, Crystal Todd. In more ways than one.

  53. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck Evans and Duncan McColl were known as the All American Book Ends at Stanford. Chuck played a couple years with the Saints. Maybe he never played in the regular season for us? I thought he did. I know he was in camp trying to make the team. I think he is an assistant AD at Stanford today. I know him more as my good buddy’s brother.

  54. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Duncan McColl is Milt McColl’s brother. Milt was the one who recovered the fumbled kick off just before half time of SB 16. Dr. McColl was their father and our team doctor on the Junior All American Football team that Milt and I played on.

  55. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    As I’ve mentioned numerous times before, I top the charts when it comes to Paul Hofer fandom. Not only did we name the family black Lab after him, but I took his name for Confirmation back in the 8th Grade at St. Jerome’s.
     
    Now? Some young and impressionable 14 yo Catholic boys who are also Niner fans will be taking the name “Hitner” in church before God. I give up.

  56. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, McColl’s dad was an all-American at Stanford, too, way back when. Then had a very solid career with the Bears. That’s cool that you got to meet them, Berger.

  57. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis Hofer?

  58. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas: L 10-40
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia: L 10-33
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona: L 10-20
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants: W 31-21
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle: L 13-24
Dec. 3: at Chicago: W 15-14
Dec. 10: at Houston: W 26-16
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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