A Tale of Two Halfs

The San Francisco 49ers stomped the New England Patriots in the first half like they have not been stomped in ten years or so. The Patriots stomped the 49ers in the second half like they have not been stomped since the Nolan years. From epic beat down to epic collapse to nail-biter finish this was truly a game for the ages. And for premature aging.

In the end, the 49ers accomplished what no one thought they could: they whipped the Patriots in Foxborough in the cold and rain in December, forcing four Patriot turnovers. Truly an astonishing victory. As Jimmy Johnson said before the game, “Beat the Patriots and Tom Brady at home in December? No way, no how.” No shit, Jimmy. How ’bout dem Niners!

What a strange game. QB Colin Kaepernick fumbled five times, never lost one of them, and Frank Gore even picked one up and ran it in for a TD. The team blew three scoring opportunities in the first half, yet still managed to explode to a 31-3 lead.

Less than one quarter later, it was suddenly 31-31 and fans had gone from ecstasy to mob anger. Before the second (or third or fourth) chair could be heaved through the window, however, in the next twelve seconds rookie RB LaMichael James ran a kickoff back 62 yards and Kaepernick hit Michael Crabtree for a 38 yard TD.

All that was left was holding Brady to a four and out on his own twelve yard line without injured DT Justin Smith. No problemo. Close enough for the no longer dependable David Akers to chip shot in a FG that sealed the win.

The 49ers are seriously more explosive these days, but also stumble-bumble prone, as during the five consecutive three-and-outs that fueled the Patriot comeback. That and a defense that suddenly quit pressuring Brady. When it comes to the playoffs, who knows what will happen? They could beat anybody or shoot themselves in the foot right off the bat.

The win knocked the Patriots out of the number two seed in the AFC, much to the pleasure of folks in Denver. It also stuck a dagger in the Seahawks hopes of winning the division and getting to host a playoff game. Whether they beat the 49ers next week or not, the Niners need only beat Arizona at home on the final weekend to win the division. If they win both games, they get a playoff bye week and the number two seed.

The 49ers have now beaten Green Bay and New England on the road this year, something they had failed to do in each place for twenty years or so. They haven’t won a Super Bowl in eighteen years, either. Is that next on the list of achievements? We’re two games away from finding out.

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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    A milestone win with some fortunate bounces.
    Niners hung tough when the Brady Express caught up but refused to be passed and finally to much relief finished them off.
    Niners clinched a playoff spot and one more win or Seahag loss gives us the division.
    Made Dungy and Harrison look foolish at halftime as they were stunned with the lead. Went into play not to lose mode which fuels comebacks.
    The win puts the pressure on the Seahags next weekend.
    With all the Niner missed opportunities if they had lost
    might have sent them into a tailspin and a lost season.

  2. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Geezzz…talk about a game to remember…i can barely talk this morning…when we went up 31 to 3…i was telling the wife how we could be up 48 or more right now…and she’d tell me to dont get to cocky…then we go into a zone scheme and all of a sudden its 31 all….im going freaking nuts …then 20 seconds later we’re leading by 7…then 10…..wow….the big stike plays are why Kappy’s in there…and Harbaugh knew we need that to be champs again…i get the sense now that we can ‘win’ a shootout with anybody….and the defensive letdown might have been a good thing in the long run….no lead against teams like the Patriot’s is safe….so no more PREVENT DEFENSES…PLEASE…..my heart cant take it….

  3. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Skeebs ..i made a post that mighth have been censored…

  4. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll check it out, Tony.

  5. RenojimNo Gravatar says:

    Hi first time here. some of you know me as a friend of berger’s. last nights game was not for the faint of heart. i am all for James being the return guy. i have been a supporter of Alex but Kaep is definatley better. it doesn’t hurt that he’s a Nevada guy. 🙂 now lets kick some seachicken butt next week. that is if the world doesn’t end friday

  6. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Welcome to the blog, Jim.

  7. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Your post is restored, Tony.

  8. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What a game. A classic. I definitely had us in for a loss. Sometimes being wrong is good!

  9. RenojimNo Gravatar says:

    Berger you should be use to being wrong. LOL

  10. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    The coaching came damned close to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. With a QB like Brady who can score in bunches, you cannot go into your prevent / four-corners scheme with 25 minutes left in the game. That was just plain stupid. James and Kappy bailed Jimbo and Roman out last night.

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    On the first TD catch by Moss it was a WTF moment. I think Walker ran the wrong route or something. No way he should be 5 yards side by side with Moss bringing his DB into the coverage.
    The fake punt that Goldson ran for a first down was daring and brilliant. Nobody fakes a punt on 4th and 10. Now you have to expect that from the Niners.
    They disguised it to perfection by using Goldson.

  12. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    This could be a very important day for our Super Bowl drive. Justin Smith has an MRI on his injured elbow. I like our chances of winning three in the playoffs WITH him a lot better than without him.

  13. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Goldson called that fake punt. I didn’t agree with the call but it worked, so it was fantastic!
     
    The soft zone coverage we changed to in the 2nd half almost backfired.

  14. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    We win 2 games and then lose one. The Seattle game is a scheduled loss if the pattern continues.

  15. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Who did I have the draft day bet with over Josh Chapmann and Jared Crick. Was it Winder or Grumpy? Chapmann just went on IR last week so whoever it was won the bet. The pay off was bragging rights.

  16. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The irony is I made the bet because I was fairly sure Crick would be the one who would be on IR.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    I didn’t make any bets with you but I was sparring with you that Crick was the better player.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Hey remember the dark times when the Niners were unable to win a game on the road in an Eastern time zone?
    There was a time when we couldn’t win evidenced by the game on the road against Manning and the Colts
    under Singletary where we had them on the ropes.
    Although not way in the East another devastating loss was the last second Hail Mary that Favre threw in the back of the endzone to snatch victory away.
    Things have changed starting with the first win this year at Lambeau Field.

  19. RenojimNo Gravatar says:

    you had to bring up dingleberry. what a buzzkill

  20. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah I think that was me on Crick. But honestly, I don’t care – neither one is a 49er. I just hope Justin Smith’s MRI today goes well. That is the D-lineman I’m inclined to worry about right now.

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Pats ran 92 plays to the Niners 65. Brady threw 65 passes and 29 were incomplete.
    That was quite an aerial assault they withstood.
    The great irony of last night’s
    game is the onside kick was fielded by Delanie Walker who this season has dropped more balls then he has caught and had a key fumble earlier in the game.

  22. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    They intentionally kicked that ball right at Delanie. Hoping for the play similar to the man who shall not be named.

  23. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Yesterday’s Falcon thrashing of the Gnats was suprising. Week to week you just don’t know which team is showing up.
    Gnats are on the outside looking in and don’t control their destiny.
    Another irony is the CK move to QB was specifically done to counter the Gnats and now there’s a chance they are not a playoff team.

  24. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    When Justin went down yesterday, the Niners switched from a 2-7 constant pressure Wade Phillips D to soft zones.
    That’s where the Pats points came from.
    The Niners do need depth on the D-line.
    And do not bother playing those zones. You will lose.

  25. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Rufus, the zoning coverage could have been more strategic than tactical. It’s not easy staying in some speedy receivers pocket play after play in hurry up offense mode. If the coverage guys can’t keep up a QB like Brady will have a field day. Zoning for a bit would give them a chance to catch their breath which they weren’t getting with our offense’s three and outs.

  26. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, NoFear. But the D changed completely after Justin got hurt and they have to learn to adapt and overcome.

  27. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Is it just me or is it an eerie coincidence that ‘halves’ is misspelled in Chuck’s blog today the same as Skeeber’s?

  28. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t know Rufus, I’ll look at the game again tomorrow when the coaches film is up. I know we rushed three sometimes but Smith was still in for some of that. We were subbing RJF and playing some base on that Woodhead TD drive but they were attacking the left side and Bowman missed the tackle on the TD to begin NE’s comeback effort. And I think Brady made a perfect throw on Whitner’s good coverage while we rushed four on the next TD drive where Brady ran it in on a sneak. Brady does that perfect throw thing sometimes.

  29. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    It’s halfs because you refer to the halfs as separate halfs. Not 2 halves of a whole.
    .
    Sounds good to me, and I’m sticking with it.
    .
    I’m skeebs now? That’s the worst thing anyone has ever said to me.
    .
    I named mine ‘One for the Ages’, and Skeebs said ‘a game for the ages’. Conspiracy theorists (or Trilateralists. Would you believe Freemasons?), discuss . . .

  30. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners were crowding the line with the 2-7. Then backing off into man.
    It was Wade Phillips D at its finest.
    This team is truly nasty right now.

  31. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. Barrow’s blog is being flooded with Seahawks trolls.
    I’m going to be busy for a bit.

  32. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Aldon pressured Brady a lot at the beginning pof the game. He gets rattled when that happens. In the 2nd half he had too much time to throw and we let him get into a rhythm. Couple that with our suddenly more conservative game plan which created multiple 3 and out drives and we also let Brady get many extrea touches. That also fatigued our defense. The Patriots are a good team. We gave them an opportunity and the took advantage of it.

  33. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Even Ditka, trying as best he could. couldn’t critize the Niners after last night.
    Wagons, HO! Onward to Seattle.

  34. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    “critisize”

  35. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Cappy is coming into his own. We would have really blown em out if a couple of his passes weren’t just out of reach. We need Justin and you know he’ll be there if possible. The fourth quarter kinda reminded me of a few Giant baseball games, pure torture.

  36. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Try ‘criticize’ . . .
    .
    Berger said pof

  37. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We seemed to employ some LeBeau-like schemes as well last night.
    NoFear49er?
    Your coaches tape review would be appreciated.
     
    I thoroughly enjoyed seeing the wrinkles we devised.
    Fangio and Roman restored my faith by using some creativity.
    Our predictability has been less than palatable in recent weeks.
     
    It also appears as though LMJ is being utilized in multiple sets to allow him the latitude to work in space.
    I’d always hoped that his ‘quicks’ could be utilized in the same way the Pats use Welker.
     
    RenoJim, thanks for joining the party.
     
    Berger, the more I think about the Draft possibilities, the more I wonder whether Baalke would attempt to make a jump up the Board to grab a DLman?
    The guy that most intrigues me is Sheldon Richardson from Mizzou.
    He declared already and, appears to be the type of guy we would be lucky to obtain.
    Problem is, he’ll likely land in the Top 15 by early guesstimates.

  38. robNo Gravatar says:

    niners going to the playoffs !!!

    10-3-1 with seattle and arizona next !

    12-3-1 anyone ! not too shabby imo !

  39. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I haven’t dedicated too much time in the DE catagory but, a guy worth researching, as a compliment to Aldon, might be Alex Okafor from TX.
    (Still like David Bass as a later Rd possibility though).
     
    Seeing the energy we played with last night, further heightens my desire to strengthen our rotation.
     
    We have the nucleus of a very formidable Front for years to come.
    A couple more ‘Pressure’ guys inside would be icing on the cake for me.
     
    Can we find our own version of Vince Wilfork…..PLEASE?

  40. robNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    nice post !

    another big NT and one more pass rusher please !

  41. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    R.I.P. 2012 NYJ.
    They were sooooooo close.
    J-E-S-T YUK YUK YUK

  42. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Watching Jake Locker and Mark Sanchez after watching Kaep and Brady is like watching a different level of football.

  43. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Thank God I can stop listening to all the ‘MATH’ related to those losers and the Playoffs.
    Geez what a joke that Team is.
     
    I have 1 simple equation that will fix their issues.
     
    Subtract Mike Tannenbaum from Mark Sanchez, divided by Tim Tebow, multiplied by Rex Ryan, added to Braylon Edwards (squared) to the root power of Bart Scott and Santonio Holmes and, Pi might make some sense.
    Quantum Physics for Dummies.

  44. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Thankfully NBC realized what a joke next Sunday Nights’ game would’ve been and flexed us in, thus sparing all of humanity, (and their advertisers), the pain of watching SD at NYJ.
     
    That would have been the ultimate Primetime ‘No Show’ game.

  45. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    LMAO after reading a blog post which suggested that the NYJ should award Mark Sanchez with a helmet sticker for each INT he throws.
    Visions of Ohio State Buckeyes comes to mind.

  46. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    award=reward

  47. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Gotta wonder whether the RSherman/PED appeals hearing is going to impact the game for us Sunday night too.
    His appeal is set for Friday.
    Very possible he won’t have to miss the game unless they flat out deny the appeal at the same hearing.

  48. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    That won’t work, NJ.
     
    Sanchez’s helmet does not have enough room for all those stickers.

  49. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I know Grump, that’s why I LMAO.
    It’s nonstop chatter when it comes to the NYJ.
    For a Team that hasn’t done squat since Namath played, they seem to think every year is their year.
    Delusional.
    Media feeding frenzy.

  50. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, take a look at Syracuse S Shamarko Thomas.
    He’s probably a SS, but, what a beast.
    5’10” 210 with 4.4 speed.
    Tackle numbers off the chart too.
    Interesting player.
    Looks very ‘Whitner-ish’.
    Big hitter with speed.

  51. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Is he a Goldson / Whitner, or is he a Taylor Mays? After buying that lemon, you have to ask whether he is agile and can change direction. Straight line speed is great, if you’re running on a track.

  52. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- IMO, just re-sign Goldson. He’s earned his money. Is there a safety in football playing better?

  53. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    My friend from NY is saying talk on the radio there is they want to go after Alex Smith!

  54. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Don’t mention the former starter.
    The posse is running wild on Chuck’s blog and are in a feeding frenzy.

  55. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Better news on Justin Smith per Harbaugh on the radio this morning
    but you never know as this could be Harbaugh speak or jive turkey gobble gobble
    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2012/12/18/harbaugh-sounds-optimistic-about-justin-smiths-injury/

  56. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- I just read yesterdays comments at uncas. The best info I got was Grumpy was making popcorn! Bur since I like most of those yahoos it fun to see what they were saying.

  57. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    I just hope Goldson doesn’t get suspended for his hit on Hernandez. It was helmet to helmet.
    If you get called for the same penalty they will suspend you like Ed Reed.
    Whitner hits just as hard but his hits avoid drawing the fouls.
    As for next year I think they franchise Goldson again and he’ll be 30 after that unless he comes down in his money demand and length of contract he will not get signed long term.

  58. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The coven/posse (haters) used to complain they were being shouted down by the Smith supporters. Now they are the ones trying to shout down anyone who doesn’t worship Kaepernick. The more agendas change, the more they stay the same.

  59. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Kiss of Number One Power Rankings Death™. We are now going to lose Sunday evening in SEA. Thanks ESPN!

  60. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs

    Back when I spent a couple of days defending Crabtree against a pack of posters it was pointed out to me that Crabtree threw Alex Smith under the bus and those same guys are now supporting Kaepernick and badmouthing Smith for no reason.

  61. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Random observation on punt returns. No Ginn, please. He’s devolving. Jenkins handles kick offs well so far, but looked lost in the PS on the punts which are arguably harder to field. Who does that leave? Muffing or stupidly grazing the ball on a punt is Not. An. Option. I’d rather see Crabtree back there fair catching every single one than Ginn if he doesn’t pull his head from his personal planet Uranus.

  62. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    The next guy they might extend is Crabtree.
    If you look at the stats for the last few years where would we be if he wasn’t on the team?
    I got laughed at when I said he was the best receiver on the team since TO left.
    He is 25 years old and the best is yet to come.

  63. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Barley

    You meant to say James and not Jenkins.

  64. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, bullit- It’s all good. An Alex defender on unca’s sight is driving up the traffic. Smith is the gift to 49er blogs. Unca has gotta love it. We are past history since we backed Alex and now back Kaep. The good news is in watching some QBs from some bad teams Alex is going to deliver for us again in the off season for his trade value! He’s been good for us. And now we have Kaep!
     
    As far as Crabs goes, you don’t get any kudos when you are a 1st round pick trying to play hurt.
     
    Like I said a month or two ago, the smart fans post here!

  65. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- With the way Willis is structured and with Alex leaving we should be able to sign Crabs and Goldson if we want to. I know I am all for that!

  66. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er said: “Subtract Mike Tannenbaum from Mark Sanchez, divided by Tim Tebow, multiplied by Rex Ryan, added to Braylon Edwards (squared) to the root power of Bart Scott and Santonio Holmes and, Pi might make some sense.
    Quantum Physics for Dummies.
     
    Dude, that was funny.

  67. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit — yeah, meant James.

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    That screen pass to Gore that went
    for 26 yards was a thing of beauty
    and well dome by CK last Sunday.
    Against the Seahag pass rush it could effective with Gore, James or even VD when he lines up in that diamond.
    They ought to use that play a few times each half.

  69. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    From the Niner website all kinds of fun facts about the Niners
    http://blog.49ers.com/2012/12/17/week-15-game-notes/

  70. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Oh Bullit, always have to pat yourself on the back per your 10:24 post. ‘Yay! I liked Crabs before you! Neener neener!’ Gawd.
    .
    Bergs, are you saying the Niners will sign Alex for $8 mill and then trade him? Not very smart, there. Yeah, smart people post here, but you do too.
    .
    They will pay him a mill and cut him before the 4/1/13 deadline.
    .
    Tolzein will be the #2 for the immediate future. Well, 2013 and beyond.

  71. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    The truth stings don’t it?
    When you are that wrong about somebody, what can I say?

  72. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I can say grow up, skippy. This isn’t tiger beat. Well . . .

  73. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And to what truth are you referring? That Crabs took a while to reach his potential? That he dissed his starting QB for 2 years? No, you didn’t say that. Of course not. You pledge blind loyalty like a smitten schoolgirl. Bully for you.

  74. RenojimNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck signing then trading Smith is the smart thing to do.lots of teams need a QB and there aren’t any good ones in the draft. we could get some draft picks for him

  75. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Just like anything else you go gung ho on a subject, you try to steamroll your point and when you are wrong you develop amnesia.
    Much to your chagrin I can produce the tornado of BS you said
    about Crabtree.
    You are not a prophet. You said that Moss and Manningham would send Crabtree to the bench and he was a bust.
    Being a “grown up” is owning up to things and being accountable.
    Something that you never have learned.

  76. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    There are always good college QBs if you look hard enough.
    Cousins was a 4th rounder.

  77. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- I guess you are saying we won’t sign and trade, but that is what I am advocating.

  78. RenojimNo Gravatar says:

    RT i love your name. hail hail freedonia

  79. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Land of the Free.

  80. RenojimNo Gravatar says:

    my favorite Marx Bros film

  81. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Smith is already under contract for two more years.

  82. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Too big a salary hit, Bergs. He’ll be on the books regardless of trading him. We’ve already got what, 13 picks this offseason? We can combine and deal that way and take $8 mill off of the board for Crabs, say. Goldson just might get that deal he’s been wanting. But they can’t if they put Smith’s $8 mill on the books.

  83. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I for one am not writing Alex off. I think he has worked to become a fine QB.
    Ask the Chiefs or the Jets if they would like to have him on their roster.
    Here is another gameplan idea for this Sunday night in Seattle against Petey.
    I haven’t decided yet on my song of the week.
    http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AqxM8c25q_iNC0ligFFsuMabvZx4?fr=yfp-t-521-s&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&p=heart%20heartless%20youtube

  84. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I said Crabs needs to get his shit together, Bullit. Stop being such a little priss.
    .
    Yer like one of those little yapping chihuahuas that just won;t shut up.

  85. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, Smith’s deal is null and void (non-guaranteed) with a 1 mill buyout if Smith is released before 3/31/13.
    .
    that was the big stink whern he signed it. In reality was a one-and-done deal if the Niners chose to go that way. It appears they are.

  86. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I was addressing the sign & trade scenario mentioned here, Chuck.

  87. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Depth on both lines, a running back like Moreno, and for crying out loud a #1 WR.
    I was dead wrong about the trade Atlanta made for Julio Lones.

  88. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No one’s writing hinm off, RTF. Just that his days as the Niner QB are numbered. I’m dying to see him go to AZ. With a decent line, he’d have a shot at doing some good for them. But not enough to beat the 49ers . . .
    .
    Thing is, Whizzsenhurts is gone after this year. There will regime change. And someone will want to make a splash regarding their new starter. Is Alex a big enough deal? Seeing as the FA and draft classes are not very rosy regarding QBs, he’s likely a decent prize for someone.

  89. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Jones. I hit the wrong key.

  90. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Again, Skeebs, the Niners take an $8 mill salary cap hit regardless of trading him after that. I seriously don’t think they do that. Not with the ton of picks they have to work with.

  91. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    You know me, Chuck. My lawyer’s brother was taken in by John Brodie after a tragedy.
    I want the Niners to have the best QB in the league and Kappy has tons of promise.
    Alex has gotten good but he doesn’t scare defenses a bit.

  92. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Trent Dilfer is on ESPN defending Mark Sanchez.
    Sometimes ESPN makes me remember why I watch them.

  93. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Again, Chuck. I was addressing the “sign” and trade. He’s already signed. They can trade him in March before the $8 mil hit. That’s what they’ll do, most likely. Otherwise, they’ll just cut him.

  94. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Teams know the Niners will have to cut him, so I doubt they’ll give up much in trade.

  95. RenojimNo Gravatar says:

    if we cut him there will be a bidding war for him. someone will trade us for him. IMHO

  96. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t know, Skeebs. I think the Chiefs or Jacksonville would pay him a lot and trade a lot for him.
    I think it depends mostly on what Alex and his family want to do.

  97. RenojimNo Gravatar says:

    the Jets would probably want him too

  98. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Berger – That bet wasn’t with me, I don’t even know who those people are.

  99. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    UFO Coyotes, baby!
    You think I’m scared of Petey’s team after that.
    I don’t give a (expletive deleted) if the Coyotes win the Champ. It’s been fun, and I want to thank Dennis for all his hard work on the league.

  100. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I misspoke when I chimed in from work. I meant to trade him before 4-1, not saigfn and trade. If we cut him a team might have to pay much more in a bidding war and then not sure if they can get him anyway. We already have him signed at 16 mil for 2 years. That contract is attractive for a starting, experienced QB. Especially with nobody looking the part in this year’s draft. We will try to make the bidding war with us in a trade instead of cutting him and letting Alex get the highest bidder.
     
    I can see a situation where we work with him on where he goes for being a classy guy through all of this, or just cutting him if that is what he wishes. The best thing for us would be a bidding war before 4-1.

  101. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    When you trade a player the Niners would only be responsible for the bonus money and take a cap hit on that. The $7mil salary
    is on his new team’s books.
    Not sure if his signing bonus is spread throughout the contract or was paid this year.
    Even if you cut Smith you would owe him the bonus and have to absorb that into your salary cap.

  102. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Winder- I couldn’t remember. Turns out it was Grumpy. I was just letting him know he had bragging rights for winning the bet.

  103. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The J-E-T-S are already talking about Alex. If the Niners want to f*ck him over one last time, they’ll trade him there.

  104. robNo Gravatar says:

    here’s good news on justin smith

    On KNBR this morning, Harbaugh said he expects the All-Pro to make his 186th straight start Sunday when the 49ers visit Seattle. Smith missed the majority of the second half of last week’s 41-34 win over the Patriots with an arm injury. He had an MRI on Monday, which likely didn’t reveal any significant damage, based on Harbaugh’s comments.

  105. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I think the bonus money was up front, but don’t quote me on that, bullit. Please.
    .
    Frankly I think teams will wait to see what the Niners do. The reasoning being, why trade for him if the Niners are going to cut him loose on 3/31 anyway? Get a jump on the other teams? I doubt it.
    .
    All the GMs know that the Niners aren’t going to keep Smith to be an $8 mill back up. They all know that the 3/31 date is when his 2013 deal kicks in.
    .
    Ergo, hold off til the Niners drop him.

  106. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    3/31 being the end date of his 2012 deal. 4/1 is when his 2013 deal kicks in.

  107. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- You may be correct but if a team trades for him they know they got him, instead of having to bid for him after the fact, and are getting a reasonable contract with two years still on it. I would think that has decent value in itself. We shall see.

  108. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Winder, that’s YOU I’m playing in the Champ Game???
    Good luck my man.
    I posting this on Skeebs blog because you have earned bragging rights.

  109. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Manning was a bit of a different situation, but no one traded for him when he was still under Indy’s control. They waited until the dealine passed . . .

  110. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The classy thing WOULD be to cut Alex loose and let him work out his own deal.
    .
    Which is likely how this plays out.

  111. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The remainder of Manning’s deal with Indy was ludicrous, but he got an even more ludicrous deal from the Broncos. No one will care in Denver if they win it all. Timmy who?

  112. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    As far as Mark Sanchez. I don’t think he is as bad as many think. He is not a good QB but he is serviceable. That coaching staff would make any QB look bad.

  113. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    He is terrible, Reno. I would take 10 Alexes before I took him.
    I’ve watched him play. He gets worse every year.
    Now in AZ he might be dangerous.

  114. robNo Gravatar says:

    oh CHUCK

    you did not just say that !

  115. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    LOL . . . !

  116. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    “Alex and I are buddies, we both got drafted in 2005 NFL Draft, and he’s been through a lot,” Rodgers said in the interview. “I can’t imagine to have to go through that many offensive coordinators and the turnover in coaches has been tough for him.

    Here is what Aaron Rodgers said about Alex Smith this week:
    “He comes in, he’s 70 percent completion, he’s 100-plus quarterback rating last year, he’s like barely over one percent interception percentage. He’s a great quarterback, he just needs to go somewhere he gets appreciated for the skills he has and hopefully he gets a chance next year.”

  117. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- Rex Ryan is so bad I’m doubting he ever gets a head coaching job again. I’d go so far as to say Mark Sanchez earned his money and next year’s bonus already by having to play for this oaf and then having to go up to the podium after each loss and blame himself for the losses to the media. If he was truthful he would ask where is his O-line, or his receivers, or his play caller.
     
    On a funny note, anybody here remember Stinkblood berating the 49ers for not moving up in the draft and taking him, like the Jets did!

  118. robNo Gravatar says:

    if/when alex leaves next year , anybody here think tim tebow might be a good backup QB ?

  119. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    BTW- I heard Hugh Douglass make that rewmark on ESPN radio today about Sanchez already having earned his money. I just happen to agree with the comment. Renojim was telling me the guys on PTI think Rex will never get a head coaching job again. I agree with that too.

  120. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    KC. They’ll go 6-10, Alex’s first year.
    Then 10-6 the second.
    Some teams really really are good but just need a QB.
    The weather in the Midwest really sucks in the winter.
    Alex and his family’s choice.

  121. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    rob- NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop that! Just say no to Tebow. The two QBs in the NFL who can’t consistently throw accurately when there is no pressure are Tebow and Locker.

  122. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- KC will need a coach who knows a little offense first. So many coaches are stuck in the 80’s and 90’s. With the evolving NFL rules they still play old style Sardine Can Offense. Somebody wake them up and tell them the rules have been changed to promote more of a wide open game. Tell them to smell the coffee. Tell Alex to beware! Actually, tell him he’s been traded for a high draft pick or two! Then get me a top NT!

  123. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    With Matt Cassel and who was his backup playing now because they don’t have a clue.
    Alex with Tebow as his backup would turn around the Chiefs so fast Hank Stram would be proud.

  124. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The funny thing about the Jest is they had Bill Callahan and used him as a line coach. They had a good OC in house and used Kurt Schottenheimer’s SCO system instead. Now Dallas has Mr Bill and Romo looks OK. If Dallas makes the play-offs look for Callahan to get an offer for HC. I do not know if he is a good HC but he has proven to be a good OC.

  125. robNo Gravatar says:

    RUFUS-T

    i’m not too sure god the father as head coach , jesus at QB and the holy spirit on defense could turn KC around anytime soon !

  126. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I disagree, Rob, but that is JMO.
    I’m not a Chiefs fan.

  127. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I’m just gonna take for granted that I am one of the samrt people who blog here.
    .
    RT- Thanks and good luck to you my friend. I also agree about dennis being the man and how thankful I am that he’s running the show.
    .
    chuck- It might be the classy thing to do but I would rather get something for Alex, like berger said, i’ll take a NT too.

  128. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That’s my point. No one is going to offer anything if he’s going to hit the market anyway.
    .
    The offers, if any, will be piddling compared to the salary hit the other guys know we’ll take if we keep him.
    .
    You gotta know when to hold ’em and know when to fold ’em. No onme will double down for Alex. They will wait for the Niners to fold.

  129. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Granite, Winder?

  130. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Winder- This is classic. Please tell me you mis-spelled smart on purpose!
    “I’m just gonna take for granted that I am one of the samrt people who blog here.”

  131. robNo Gravatar says:

    BERGER you SAMRTASS

    lol

  132. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Of course he did, Reno. It was irony leading up to our league championship game which I believe you, Dennis, and Chuck are not in.
    Oops smack talk. Time for more Heart.

  133. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners are going to take a hit of the bonus of $1 mil whether they cut Smith or trade him.
    I said that earlier but as usual somebody just likes to put out misinformation.
    Maiocco wrote a whole article the other day stating that trading him for a 2014 draft pick is the way to go.
    http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/matt-maiocco/why-it-makes-sense-49ers-trade-alex-smith-0

  134. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck the best case scenario with Alex is we have the ability to direct his destination, IF…we have can create some demand.
     
    Sure, Teams can call the April 1 Contract Guarantee bluff and wait for his release.
    That Team that really wants him as a plug and play starter might see that as a better option than Drafting and developing.

  135. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Sanchez is guaranteed his entire Contract.
    Another brilliant move by NYJ GM extrordinaire, Mike Tannenbaum.
    Can they afford Alex and Sanchez?
    IMO, KC or SD make excellent sense if, you can garner interest.
    SD will be cleaning house and so too could KC.
    Might get dicey in that scenario and, very dependent on who gets hired at what capacity.
    Watch Andy Reid too. If he lands in SD, Alex’s hometown, his style of football might be very much a good fit for Alex.
     
    Perfect fit?
    May not be one but, keep Buffalo in the picture too.
    Also, watch and see where Norv lands.
    Talk is already heating up for Norv to save Sanchez in NY.
    I doubt you put Alex and Sanchez in the same uniform but…?
    If Tannenbaum stays, he’s dumb enough to try it.
    Remember the Tebow Deal?
    Another bullet point on the Tannenbaum resume.
     
    Baalke wrote the right deal for Alex and the 9ers.
    We call the shots but, the window is limited.
     
    All we need is competition between 2 or more QB needy Teams to roll the dice before the April 1 drop dead date.

  136. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    With the pocketful of Picks we already hold, adding 1 or 2 more could easily afford us options to overspend in a Trade-up deal for a coveted player too.
    Face it, we’re pretty well stocked on the 53.
    We don’t need 13 or more additional Players.
    Some key additions here or there could be the intent.
    The Pats have been doing it for years.
    Wheeling and dealing with Picks is a Belichick tradition.

  137. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    http://www.videolog.tv/video.php?id=642474
    Goodnight to each and every man and woman serving overseas.
    And a Merry Christmas from Pat here in New Mexico.

  138. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not certain of the rules regarding Trades but, I’d venture to guess that a player under Contract can be dealt anytime after the SB?
     
    FA starts in March so, paying Alex his March Roster Bonus of $1Mil is a no brainer for me if it buys time to complete a deal.

  139. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Another point of note.
    Rams are holding an extra 1 from the ‘Skins for the RG III deal I believe.
    If we want to make a pitch for a splash Player,(perhaps a stud DT?), we might want to consider moving in front of Jeff Fischer if at all possible.

  140. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, SMITH’S best case scenario would be AZ. They have a decent defense but a crap offense. I don’t see us trading in the division, unless AZ goes nuts. Which I don’t see.
    .
    Based on the fairly quiet offseason the demand was for him, I don’t see a huge offer.

  141. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Like I said, RTF, when Gronk went down, so did Unca’s Army.

  142. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry Chuck, my ole friend and I are playing for the Championship.
    And you and Reno aren’t in it.
    Missed it by that much, did you?

  143. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Berger- Waht?

  144. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe this time he’ll get it Winder. Bergs is a little slow on the uptake. . . .
    .
    hyuk

  145. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No doubt AZ needs a QB Chuck.
    Problem there is, proprietary information.
    Not that you couldn’t adjust but, why help the enemy if you can avoid it?
    Be nice if we could control his destination.
    Even nicer if we got something in return.

  146. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s not ignore Cleveland in the speculation destination list either.
    There’s a Team desparate for change.
     
    Weeden sure isn’t winning many Fans and, he’s the same age as Alex I believe.

  147. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas: L 10-40
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia: L 10-33
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona: L 10-20
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants: W 31-21
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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