Pay Back Time

Sunday’s game against the Giants is an NFC bragging rights game, but it’s also a game that will tell us how legitimate the 49ers’ new and explosive offense really is. And whether the defense can handle a legitimate QB or get befuddled like they did in Minnesota.

It also begins a three game stretch leading up to the Bye week that could go a long way to determining the NFC West playoff picture. After the Giants, the Niners face Seattle on Thursday night and travel to Arizona on a Monday night — three straight national attention games, and their first two division games.

The Monday night game at Arizona will be the only one the 49ers play during a three and a half week period. We should have a rested team when the season resumes at home against St. Louis on November 11. This strange hiatus from action coincides perfectly with Bay Area fans need to focus on the Giants and A’s improbable run to the World Series. Are the gods smiling on us? Or toying with us? Will we have double sport champions this year? Or double sport losers? We shall see.

No matter how it turns out, there is local excitement in the air — with jackets, caps, banners, fist pumps, sympaticoitivity abundant in the land — and that’s a welcome return to glory from the lean years between 2002 and 2010. Of course, some of you Niner fans don’t like baseball or don’t live in the Bay Area, so the 49er season will have to suffice.

Deep down, the Giants have to know the 49ers are a better team. They were better last year, too, and have improved since then. To overcome the Niners last year, the Giants needed two late game ST 49er fumbles, two uncaught easy interceptions, and one lost fumble gifted back to them in order to squeak out a win in OT. Certainly, they should not hope for a repeat of this ghastly largesse again this year!

The Giants’ HC, Tom Coughlin, did not use the Wednesday phone conference session to gush about the Niners, like coaches normally do for an upcoming opponent. Instead, he reduced the team to a run only enterprise and tried to play the Nobody Thinks We Can Win card. Sure signs of denial and fear. Coughlin does not want to return to New York and find himself replacing Rex Ryan as the city’s tabloid loser. The glow of SB Winning Coach erased in a heartbeat.

Coughlin’s attempt to suggest the 49ers don’t have a passing game was no doubt a cheap attempt to goad 49er OC Greg Roman into coming out with a pass wacky game plan, which would play to the Giants’ strength — pass rushing — and away from their weak run defense. There’s nothing that neutralizes a pass rusher quicker than having to constantly defend the run.

The 49er O-line has dominated two straight opponents, stonewalling them and steam rolling over them. This game will give them a chance at national recognition for excellence if they can dominate the Giants’ D-line, too. If they can, the 49er offense is going to be admitted into the hallowed room of powerhouse offenses, the room reserved for the Saints, Packers, and Patriots. The room once owned by 49er legend Bill Walsh.

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  1. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs i agree with all your points… and as for our O-line …i think they,re going to empress on Sunday. And thumbs up and good luck to the San Francisco Giants (thought they were dead) I’m a Giants fan too, but live for the Niners… i was born in SF, moved to San Mateo, but live in the valley now.. (yuck)… i keep heading east….next stop Lake Tahoe 🙂

  2. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve got it 49ers 31, Gnats 24.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners win 30-17

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Gnats have 8 players listed as questionable. WR Nicks was limited in practice yesterday, Plans to go all out in today’s practice but did that 2 weeks agho and his knee swelled up so he had to shut it down.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    For college football fans Beano Cook died yesterday at the age of 81. RIP

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s some video from the Gnat’s
    Sports Net
    http://tinyurl.com/9zs4crj

  7. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Good job, Bullit! You figured out my name is Pat.
    Excellent work, since I’ve posted it on Skeeber’s blog, Chuck’s blog, and is up right now under UFO Coyotes in Dennis’ Yahoo league.

    Want to try 2 out of 3?
    Guess which state I moved to from California 3 years ago. No cheating, now. It starts with a New Mex….
    Obfuscation now. Junior high school debating tactics.
    You haven’t had an original thought in your life.
    What is your opinion, and what is your analysis of the Giants@Niners game?
    Even the crickets out here are getting bored waiting.

  8. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    You wouldn’t know a rattlesnake from a bull snake, Bullit. Hint: Bull snakes are non-venomous, huge and common.
    You wouldn’t last 5 minutes in New Mex….

  9. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Snow is threatening, Bullit. Do you know how to shovel snow?

  10. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Hint: The state where I live now that starts with New Mex…. gets snow. Lots of it in a bad winter.

  11. winderNo Gravatar says:

    NY is the best team we’ve faced all year and it will be a tough one. i think we have more talent than they do but sometimes that doesn’t mean much. Eli and their two defensive ends are the only thing I can see disrupting a SF victory this week. If we can give Alex some time and execute properly we should take these guys.
    .
    24-17 Niners

  12. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t know bull snakes, but we get big ol’ king snakes out here.
    .
    The Giants? Man, I just don’t know. Green Bay and Deetroit were supposed to be all that and a bag of chips. The Niners rolled them both fairly easily. The Giants CAN play well when motivated, and they do seem to fall behind a lot. Are they motivated yet? Cleve put a 14 spot on them. They couldn’t hold off the Iggles, a Jeckyll/Hyde team themselves, and they struggled to beat the Bucs.
    .
    This IS a motivation game for them because they ARE scuffling and this would be a feather intheir cap. Of course the Niners have the incentive of last year’s NFC Champ game. They seem to be resting on their laurels at this point in the year. Is this when they play for real?
    .
    Truth is, this game means more to them than it does for us. Still we win 28-20.

  13. winderNo Gravatar says:

    One reason I don’t like Hawaii is because we don’t have snakes, birds of prey, squirels, bull frogs, and such. It’s not that I really like snakes it’s just that they should be here. i love seeing Hawks, buzzards and such in the air. We do have some owls but they are seldom seen

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If you call this crap analysis why do you waste your time embarassing yourself?
    “The Giants are a real team. B.J. Raji has been lousy for the UFO Coyotes (next season Roadrunners), but he’s a helluva nose and the key to the Giants D.
    They also have something called a secondary, which Buffalo might figure out some year.
    My prediction goes on Chuck’s blog. I’m 4-1.”

    Did the Packers trade BJ Raji?
    Wow imagine complimenting yourself on your predictions on the Niners.
    You’re 4-1 and the Niners are 4-1.
    Raining on your parade everyone has picked the Niners so everyone is 4-1.

  15. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Sometimes, Chuck, you’ve got to tell the dogs:
    These aren’t rabbits, they are coyotes. And there’s 6 of them and only 2 of you.
    The Giants are a good team, waiting until December/January when they always become a great team.
    Cold weather blows all power rankings to bits in a couple weeks.

  16. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Oh, here you are again, Bullit.
    Still dodging, evading and avoiding the question.
    Read “Run to Daylight” by Vince Lombardi.
    Read “Better Scramble than Lose” by Fran Tarkenton.
    Read “The Art and Magic Quarterbacking” by Joe Montana. That one is right in front of me.
    When you’re done, we can have a discussion.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Ok if you think BJ Raji anchors the Gnat line, who am I to argue?
    You’re 4-1 on your predictions on some other blog and you can list a bunch of books to try to validate your knowledge.
    I’m glad you’re finishing up your 5th grade summer reading program.
    Good job!

  18. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    What are your opinions and analysis of the Giants@Niners game, Bullit?
    Go for it.

  19. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    If you don’t know the “Art and Magic of Quarterbacking” by Joe Montana, then we have nothing to discuss.
    You didn’t read Lombardi’s book, either.
    ESPN treating you well?

  20. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    “The toughest defensive packages we faced dealt with all-out pressure. Rather than rushing four linemen and dropping into coverage, these guys might send all seven guys after the quarterback.”

  21. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Pretty strong words from Harbaugh:
     
    “On Thursday, Gilbride said 49ers DT Justin Smith “gets away with murder” in holding offensive linemen.”
     
    Harbaugh’s retort: “Kevin Gilbride’s outrageous, irrational statement regarding Justin Smith’s play is, first, an absurd analogy. Second, it is an incendiary comment targeting one of the truly exemplary players in this league. It’s obvious that the Giants coaching staff’s sole purpose is to use their high visibility to both criticize and influence officiating.”

  22. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    “They might even blitz a safety,too.”
    Want me to go on, Bullit?
    p. 76, “The Art and Magic of Quarterbacking”. By Joe Montana

  23. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    They are afraid, Skeebers. This is a good freakin team they have to play on the road.

  24. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Isn’t Kevin Gilbride the one that Buddy Ryan punched in the throat on the sidelines?
    .
    And, excuse me, Kevin (Gilbride that is, not our esteemed colleague) it is the linemen that are holding Justin, not the other way around.
    .
    Which is the intent of the statement, I’m sure.
    .
    And, yeah, the rattlers get real big around here as well.

  25. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The rattlers are few and far between, Chuck. Between the black bears and the coyotes and the bull snakes, they don’t have much of a chance.
    But you miss one and you are toast.

  26. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, we get the stray mountain lion every so often, and plenty of coyotes. That ain’t no fun . . .

  27. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Justin Smith speaks about it

    http://tinyurl.com/8c4w76g

  28. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Something interesting someone at Niners Nation dug up about Alex Smith:
     
    Smith has posted a 0.87% interception rate over the last 29 games (7 interceptions in 802 attempts). That is less than one pick every 115 throws. Over nearly two seasons of football. That is simply extraordinary. It would seem to be the most impressive streak of that type in NFL history, even better than Tom Brady’s 6 picks in 625 attempts from 2010 into 2011. At this point, after nearly two YEARS, it can hardly be properly called a ‘streak’ any more.

  29. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d like to see us mix up the coverages and take a few lessons from LeBeau in our pass rush fronts.
    Dropping linemen blitzing DBs kinda stuff.
    I respect the Giants’ ability to run and we know Eli will stand and deliver while facing the business end of the barrel.
     
    We possess better Team speed and should consider working the edges against them knowing how they feast off the pass rush.
     
    NoFear49er, tee shirt sales out on this coast probably wouldn’t put me on easy street but, feel free to get something going out there where the fan base is much more plentiful.
    Cut me in on a percentage of sales so perhaps I can obtain some traveling coin to see a game with the locals before the ‘Stick becomes a parking lot.

  30. robNo Gravatar says:

    niners 20 giants 17

  31. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    27-17, 49ers.

  32. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    FedEx air player of the week…..Alex Smith

  33. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- What do you think of Grumpy’s post from 7:20? Is it possible for you to say we have a good QB?

  34. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th- Don’t tell NJ.

  35. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er would rather Lasorda in his pants before he would flat out declare we have a good QB.

  36. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I can’t say this for sure yet, but Alex Smith is as smart as any QB in football. This is from a fan that wants Kaepernick to take his job. Alex has football smarts, not life smarts. He said it was an honor to meet Obama. I would never want to meet Obama unless it was as a travel agent for one of his wife’s vacations.

  37. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Here comes the unca post. You know, the indepentant who defends Democrats more than any human alive.

  38. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I must tell you yahoos, I made Buffalo Wings after our win last week vs the Breaths, for the first time. To my surprise, they were the best wings I ever had. Look up the recipe at Betty Crocker.

  39. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    He had a phenomenal game, deserves the honor. I’m sure NJ agrees, how could he not?

  40. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy, wasn’t Smiths last interception a deflection off Crabs hands? Anyone remember?

  41. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Drew Brees was named NFC Offensive Player of the Week which I think is BS. He threw 4 TD passes but also had a pick.
    His stats were gaining 67 more yards than Alex but also throwing 21 more passes to do so.
    They gave it to the wrong player because he’s a volume passer.
    There is also something to be said about QBs who get to play at least half their games in domes not having to deal with wind and the elements.
    Peyton Manning has to make that adjustment now.

  42. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    12th – not sure but I think it was a miscommunication on a route rather than a tipped ball. IIRC Crabs broke off the route and Alex threw it where Crabs would have been.
     
    Anytime you have an INT percentage under 1%, that is pretty amazing. Even for one year. Nearly two years is crazy. Historically impressive.

  43. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Even factoring in the high percentage “safer” throws that is a heck of an achievement.

  44. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Great stat Berger, I mentioned on the last Thread that Alex had a monster game.
    Hoping he can complete the NY Trifecta now.
    Alex is doing well, I have no problems seeing this Offense click.
    He’s the trigger Man and that’s all that matters.
    You still consider me to be a basher I guess?
    He is doing what we always hoped he could, make the Offense go.

  45. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d like to see him do what Fitz did last week.
    Make the pass rush invisible by getting the ball out quickly.
    But, that might sound like I’m bashing and, requires much better timing with the WRs and RBs, which may not exactly be in tune this early in the Season.
    I’ll take everything he’s got to get us the W on Sunday.

  46. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He’s got a stable of options in the WR group that weren’t there last year.
    Takes a little time to gel and, we just started throwing against the AFC guys the past 2 weeks.
     
    All the matters is, that we improve week to week and, have it ready to go into overdrive in December and January.

  47. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I knew it. You can’t say we have a good QB. Yes, you are a basher.

  48. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Do we have better receivers? IMO, yes, but we lead the NFL in drops. Anybody care to comment on the affect of that stat? The differece is the receivers this year give a shit to learn the offense THIS YEAR. Our receivers still look like they are lost, even though the QB isn’t. One game does not convince me we have a good receiving crew. The problem is not the QB, but the receivers. I’m glad to see the WRs improving. When their skill set matches Alex’s skill set we’ll have a passing attack.

  49. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The 49ers Outsider time line is on. When will NJ49er say Alex Smith is a good QB?

  50. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Nothing in life has ever been harder for Alex Smith basher NJ49er than saying Alex Smith is a good QB.

  51. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- You are a good friend of mine and I love the heck out of you, but I will bust your butt until you write, “Alex Smith is a good QB”. Until then, you are a basher. Who needs to improve more, Alex or our WRs?

  52. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, is there a stat source where we can see drops by receiver?
     
    I’m inclined to say, stop throwing to Delanie, and it would look a lot better. But maybe it only *feels* that way, damn it.

    Some drops are caused by timing – the ball is not quite where it needs to be, because the QB and receiver have not got that split-second timing down yet. That’s something to work on, but not an insurmountable thing. Crabs for one seems to have good hands when the ball is within his frame – when he has to extend, his hands become very shaky.
     
    OTOH, if guys are dropping it when it hits them in the hands, and in stride, that’s another thing.
     
    The impressive thing is, Alex is number one in QBR, even WITH these drops. His measured accuracy has to be suffering (in terms of completion percentage) but it’s still pretty high. Eliminate half the drops, and his QBR would be a couple points higher. His third down conversion percentage this year, which is already substantially better than 2011, would also increase slightly.
     
    Looks to me like Alex is a good QB. I agree that Kaep has awesome potential to be a franchise / game changer kind of guy but we look to be in pretty good shape with Alex. He may have been a “coach killer” in Nolantary’s eyes, but Harbaugh is made of sterner stuff. We have as good a chance of anyone, IMHO, of being hot in January-February and winning the Super Bowl.

  53. Unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, you really are a sloppy drunk.

  54. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He is average to above average until proven otherwise Berger.
     
    He is a good QB when he wins in the Playoffs on a consistant basis.
    I’ll say this, he’s better than Matt Ryan IMO due to the fact that Alex has won a Playoff game.
    Draw your own conclusions on that opinion.
    Define GOOD for me Berger.
    Your bar is obviously lower than mine.

  55. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    WRs and QB go hand in hand Berger.
    Right now WRs are the newer commodity.
    Advantage Alex.

  56. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I do agree with your assessment regarding Coaching.
    Alex has a former QB to mentor him now.
    Much improved.

  57. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If the NYG dare him to beat them on Sunday, as they did in last meeting, it would serve notice if he does.

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This opinion could also get attached to Crabtrees’ ability to get open and make amends as well.
    His timing with Alex should also be improved over the last meeting with the NYG.

  59. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    IMHO Alex has had 1 outstanding game this year (3 guesses). 2 very good games (GB and Det.). 1 good game (NYJ) – the stats were modest, but you don’t win by 34 no matter how good the rest of your team is if your QB does not do your job).
     
    That leaves the Minnesota game. I’d be willing to concede one bad game out of five – but really, how bad was it? The defense could not get off the field. We were emotionally flat. And our game plan abandoned the run and lost sight of who we are. I’d say Roman had a bad game, more than Alex. Alex had one or two bad throws – mostly, we just did not play our game, a lesson Roman has seemingly learned.
     
    I would put about 8 QBs in the league above him at this point. Though it’s very close and any rankings are going to shift week to week. Any QB who is around the top ten, IMO, is “good”. Not great, at least not yet, but pretty solid. I think we can win with Alex. We *might* be better in a year or two with Kaep – I hope we get better, whoever the QB might be – but for now, I think we are damned lucky to still have Alex.

  60. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Just saw the Harbaugh retort to Gilbride. The players gotta love their coach. He walks the walk. It’s all about the team and he sticks up for them.
     
    And I might add, Gilbride is an idiot.

  61. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Agree Grump.
    I reserve my ‘Good’ grade for Berger when Alex can get in the conversations with Rodgers, Eli and Brees.
    Alex beat Brees in a Playoff environment but not Eli,so, Alex has some room to enter that conversation.
    This could be the year Alex gets rid of the ‘Game Manager’ label.
    &nbsp
    Guys like Romo and Rivers make me want to barf most of the time.
    The good QBs win in the Playoffs.
    On a regular basis.
     
    Alex trumps Romo in that regard.
    Romo hasn’t even gotten there, yet he’s always getting the hype.
    Stats are fun to discuss and compare but, I prefer a steady reliable QB that uses all his weapons and makes plays when it matters.

  62. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Meant to say Romo and Ryan.
    Rivers has held his own.

  63. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Whatever stat or circumstance favors the “I heart Alex” narrative is what gets pushed out here.
     
    Let’s get some reality into the mix. There are rookies playing better in their first year in the NFL than Alex in his eighth year. A great many NFL QBs who are considered washouts would do well in the system Alex finds himself in. Quarterbacks that hit their receivers on timing routes or sling it around the field bounce many balls off receivers’ numbers and hands and into the defense.
     
    If Alex’s QBR is down it’s the team record shoved down everyone’s throat. When the team record sucks we judge Alex on a game by game QBR, or excuse his piss poor performances for myriad reasons.
     
    Anytime Alex earns some decent kudos folks here jump out demanding apologies and genuflection at the mention of his name. Well, BULLSHIT!!!
     
    How many yards does Joe’s better throw for Sunday?
     

  64. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Working the refs? Really? Is that all ya got, defending SB champs? It’s really kind of pathetic. As incendiary comments go, it’s pretty lukewarm, but I can see it motivating the Niners far more than the Giants. “Hey look, my coach accused their best and arguably most respected player of cheating!” What a freaking putz. God do I hope my 38-17 prediction comes true.

  65. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Grump — Alex deserves some accolades, and as a doubter (not to be conflated with hater), I am more than happy to tip my hat. Just a few days after my last Doubting Thomas post, he played one of his best games. Glad to eat some crow. Keep on serving it, Alex.

  66. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, put a picture of a smoking revolver on the back and sales to the Philly side will swamp your supplier.

  67. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    LMAO NoFear49er, you might have something there!

  68. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Kaeps Pistola perhaps?

  69. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, speaking of pistolas, do you think this clip is part of the Giants’ D prep?
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCb7jTT3_G8

  70. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Exactly what I had in mind NoFear49er.
    Now…having him option out of that to go up top to Randy maybe? Take a shot on the NYG banged up secondary, that would be the Kaep in the A$$ I had in mind if it goes for 6.
     
    I didn’t really appreciate Kaeps’ speed until I was looking down on the field vs the NYJ a couple weeks back.
    He covers a lot of ground very quickly with those long legs of his.
    Very RCunningham-like.
    Accelerates very well for a long strider.
    Matter of fact, the screen shot you supplied for the split wide play was almost the exact view we had.
    We were looking right down the 20.

  71. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er,
     
    I remember you commenting on Kaep’s speed. Can’t get the same perspective from TV.
     
    The beauty of the simple play in the video is leaving a lineman or backer unblocked. He has to make a choice of RB or QB and either is going to be wrong. There should be a pitch man to Kaep’s left as well.
     
    Even if/when they figure out how to defend it, the risk/reward makes it worth running. As long as Kaep doesn’t put it on the ground, that is.
     
    The speed and power of the defenses in the NFL won’t allow this type of play for long, especially when it’s not a perfected precision play but only a seldom practiced gadget, it won’t be deadly long. But it is fun while it lasts.

  72. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If it nets points as it did vs the NYJ it’s worth it NoFear49er.
     
    NYG will certaily know it’s in the repertiore.
    We used Kaep to Randy early in the NYJ game too, though he put it into triple coverage, the ball got there.
     
    Giants will play to defend the run and look for obvious passing downs to come hard.
    Anxious to see what Harbaugh has cooked up for this rematch of sorts.
    Though it’s only Week 6, I gotta suspect the Gilbride remark will fuel a little extra angst and perhaps an added wrinkle or 2?
    Haven’t seen Miller in the pass routes much either.
    Nice to have so many options to keep a Defense guessing.

  73. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I like the other team taking shots at us, especially when it comes from the coaches. I think Harbaugh got a gift there. It’s a big help in keeping focus where it belongs.
     
    It looks like Eli will have Nicks and Bennett albeit at less than 100%. It still gives our D more skill to stop.
     
    Hopefully Carlos will cover Cruz again only better. We may have to have some zone help on him.

  74. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I agree.
    I’d be concerned with Bennett and Nicks, full strength or not.
    I would figure Fangio learned plenty from the NFCC game.
    Our bldg, plenty of momentum, payback fueled resolve, should be all the motivation we need.

  75. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We could be catching them at the right time as well.
    Tuck hasn’t been his usual dominant self and their Secondary is being held together with bailing wire.
    Should be the best game of the day.
    If Alex can run the show like he did against Buffalo it could be very interesting.

  76. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    A truly asinine statement and assertion posted yesterday by the supreme “know it all”.
    “Let’s get some reality into the mix. There are rookies playing better in their first year in the NFL than Alex in his eighth year.”

    Keep trying to nail jello to the wall. Some will believe this if they dislike Alex Smith enough but Mr Fear picked the wrong week to post this as Alex Smith is rated the #1 passer and the team is in first place.

  77. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith: 108.7
     
    Rookies playing better: 0
     
    Rookies:
    Robert Griffin III: 101.0
    Andrew Luck: 77.1
    Russell Wilson: 75.3
    Ryan Tannehill: 70.4
    Brandon Weeden: 64.5
     
    Looks like NoFear was shooting from the bad hip.

  78. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    RT/Pat/Rufus/12thman/??

    I’m not understanding your attack on me for using ESPN as a source
    of info. I would guess that 99%plus of the posters here access ESPN on line or watch their network. I use every credible source I can find to garner info.
    You on the other hand seem to think that reading football books from 15 to 30 years ago gives you
    pertinent real time perspective and superior knowledge?
    Is that why you consistently post
    inaccuracies like Von Miller playing for the Cards and BJ Raji
    your mainstay of the Gnat dline?
    Maybe if you had checked this on ESPN you wouldn’t be in error.

  79. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, RG3 and Luck are damned good talents who can throw the ball anywhere it needs to go. They can make any positive play Alex can. BUT. Alex is superior at avoiding the negative plays. That’s one difference between *promising young guns, and 18-5 over 23 games.
     
    If the 49ers keep winning it will be in part because avoiding mistakes is important for your offense. Who knows? We might reach a point where young QBs start watching film of Smith to see how to play the position and give your team a good chance to win, and wouldn’t that make our heads explode?

  80. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    It’ll make for a trip to the store to stock up on popcorn.

  81. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- There is great, very good, good, average, bad and I can’t tell because of the coaching. If retired the legendary moniker can be added.
     
    So here how they stand in the BGS(Berger Rating Scale). Brady, Manning and Brees are great. Rodgers will be too with one more great season. Right now he is very good. Smith, Flacco, Ryan, Rivers, Schaub and Romo are good QBs. Romo is there on stats only. He would be higher if won more often in big games. Average is for Cutler, the Detroit QB. Can’t tell includes Sanchez(bad coach) and Bradford(injuries and new systems). Rookies not included.

  82. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Oops- BGS is Berger Grading Scale.

  83. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, I would not rate Romo higher than Cutler. Both can throw a ton, but also have absolutely awful games where the throwing is all going to the other team. Otherwise, your list is pretty solid.

  84. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    At least Romo is a decent leader of his team, Cutler is not a leader. He is more of a malcontent.

  85. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    My guys didn’t show up to play today. It’s halftime and it’s ugly. Low point was they had the ball at their own 2 and went to a jumbo formation and got stuffed for a safety. D hasn’t tackled for 3 weeks now.
    If Auburn cans their HC Chizik Texas might rehire him as DC.
    Somebody is going to lose their job today.

  86. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Reno, you’re overlooking one. Christian Ponder. He’ll have his first chance in the playoffs this year.
    He had Donovan and Bill Musgrave as his rookie QB coaches. He’s the real deal.

  87. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    And R… is the kind of QB that Cutler, Romo, and Matty Choke can only dream of being.
    1/1000 the human being, but a far better QB.

  88. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I think Billy Sims just scored on the Longhorns. Ouch.

  89. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    “We used to hate facing Philadelphia, Chicago, Houston, and Arizona when Buddy Ryan was implementing his pressurized 46 Defense with those teams. On the one hand, we felt there was a better opportunity for us to make big plays in these matchups. On the other hand, we knew the percentages of completions would be a lot lower than normal. The key, then, was to be patient, sit back, and wait for openings to be created. This was rough, especially with the 49ers and the Chiefs when getting completions was just about a given. Then came Buddy and his crazy fronts that drove the offensive coaches batty.”

  90. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The Gints are not firing on all cylinders, and General Winter has not arrived to help them yet.
    Coughlin is a master coach. They are not the Buffalo Bills.

  91. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    ABC has pulled away from showing the balance of the game with 8 mins left.
    There’s going to be a lot of questions in Austin for the next week.
    Nothing went right. Towards the end of the first half they called intentional grounding on a deep pass which is unbelievable.

  92. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- Ponder is a QB who I believe will be very good. Just can’t rate potential. IMO, at the moment he is between average and good. I hink he will be considered good by the end of the year.

  93. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I won’t jump to a conclusion until I see him in some difficult games against the Pack, Lions and Bears.
    Then kicks ass in the playoffs. Remember Matty was the greatest thing since sliced bread?
    Ponder’s way better. He has the smarts, the arm, Adrian Peterson and Bill Musgrave.
    I want to see how he plays in a couple playoffs games before I pass judgment.

  94. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers, surely you can’t believe quarterbacking is all in the stats.
     
    Berger, you like to badger everyone who doesn’t think Alex is the best thing to hit this team since Bill Walsh. Last week Alex faced the number 32 defense in the league. I understand you benched him in your fantasy league. Where’s the faith, brother? Is it only lip service after all?

  95. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    There’s the wins, too, NoFear. But I didn’t post them. It would have been overkill.

  96. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I thought those were deemed team deals here. Wrong day?

  97. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- I benched Alex because the Texans were playing the Jets and Schaub got me 40 points the week before, on my bench. I thought Kappy might rob Alex of some red zone scores too. So he goes out and scores 44. I was lucky to win both games. This week Brees has a bye so I am playing both Alex and Schaub. Don’t ask me to explain, I need to figure out what’s going on first.

  98. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I benched Christian Ponder for the Niners game.
    Reno, how much did the Coyotes lose to your Romans that week?
    Tells you what I know. He’s not sitting on the bench again except for the bye week.

  99. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, I’m a master of leaving points on my fantasy bench. I just thought for all your bluster on the blog Alex Smith would be a permanent fixture on your team. Even on the bye week for his magic juju.
     
    btw, if you get the chance to try Stone’s smoked porter w/vanilla bean do it. It’s like freakin’ dessert.

  100. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    My Yahoo FF team started off 0-3. But with two straight wins and other anticipated this week, my “I Still Want Manning’s” are “Roaring Back!” just like the 6-10 1980 49ers.

  101. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I still have that T-shirt, BTW.

  102. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The Giants were 8 1/2 games out in May, when they made the whole thing up and more in 17 days. The shutout at Dodger Stadium was priceless.
    3 games in Chavez Ravine, Los Angeles Dodgers 0 runs.
    The Coyotes were getting ready for rookie camp at the time, and paying very close attention.

  103. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m drinking Sierra Nevada Torpedo today. I had IPA 395 and Arrogant Bastard last night. I don’t know if ‘m going to open the Jim beam yet. Maybe if I want to talk politics with unca the Independant later! LOL.
     
    That Stones Smoked Porter sounds good. I’ll try it next week-end.

  104. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Reno, I can’t speak for Chuck, but Gary Johnson, the former governor of New Mexico, couldn’t even get a podium at the first Republican candidates’ debate.
    I don’t trust any of the bastards. Citizens United ruined the process for me. I’m too old to fight it; I just follow orders from the corporate masters.
    Beats the hell out of Lyndon Baines Johnson and that lifetime secret police director, though.
    It’s the United States of America, we’ll live through it.

  105. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Rufus, as much as I despise the Dodgers, I loathe the A’s 100x more. I’m ecstatic, as Mike Tyson used to say every other word that Justin Verlander shut their asses down in Game 5.

  106. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I can’t loathe the A’s, Dennis. I saw my first World Series game in seats I could see the Bay Bridge from at the Colisseum. I sat in my first luxury box (OK, that was a joke, you couldn’t see the field through the filthy plastic screens) at the Mausoleum after Not Really Dead Al ruined the stadium.
    I don’t loathe them. I watched Santana and Lynard Skynard play there.
    But Willie May’s baseball card remains in my wallet.

  107. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dzKTbxEwIk
    Nah, I can’t loathe the A’s.

  108. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, you drank a beer called “Arrogant Bastard” last night? That joke’s so easy I won’t even open it. I’m sending it back and telling the sommelier to bring up another bottle from the cellar. He just best not bring up vintage “Dumbass doesn’t know shit from Shinola” or the joke’s on me.

  109. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Last one, and you’ve all heard it of course. Reno, these are for you. You like guitar work. I saw these guys right before they died.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np0solnL1XY

  110. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    You’re right about the process Rufus T, it sucks. Take the money out of it. Worse than the money is the fourth estate. Now only fully committed partisan propagandists.
     
    Haven’t seen shit about the utter failure of this administration to protect our Libyan Consulate on 9-11. It’s an attack on the USA folks. Why? It would show the POTUS as the clueless community organizer coverup artist he is. Sorry feebees.

  111. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If you post Lynard Skynard and “Free Bird” why wouldn’t you use this video?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX3cbFJ3lYU
    Day on the Green, Oakland 4th of July 1977

  112. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    RT

    Is that you at the 0:21 mark?
    Nice straw hat!

  113. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I was doing a quick search, RedDog. I couldn’t even tell you the exact day and year.
    Were you there? I wasn’t at Woodstock or the Monterey Fest, but I bet you were and with searching, you can tell exactly who played and precisely when.
    Or just BSing again?

  114. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    RT

    Who’s Red Dog?
    Nope wasn’t at Woodstock or Monterey cuz I wasn’t a hippie.
    Unlike you I see no reason to lie about things. It doesn’t float my boat to say I’ve done things or been to places that I haven’t.
    I have seen Lynard Skynard and Chicago while I was in college in Austin. One of my favorite Chicago songs (lyrics have a powerful message)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlPaI6Jg6eU&feature=fvwrel

  115. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s leave the Windy City and head east over to Beantown…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QctBQ5Me1Jc&feature=related

  116. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s bring it back West to Nebraska
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl4Y4FWWkn0

  117. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s go even further west over the Pacific to the Hawaiian islands…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlCiDEXuxxA&feature=related

  118. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I saw Chicago when they were the 3rd act after Santana and Big Brother. Good show though.
    .
    I thought Stanford had em today, I hate it when we lose to ND. Go Indians, Go Tree, can’t very well say go Cardinals until at least a week from now. Go SF Giants. What a great day for SF sports tomorrow.

  119. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    One last time taking it even further West to Seoul.
    Just for Dennis a horsey dance and yes it’s being done in NFL TD
    celebration dances.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdgHuYFndW0&feature=related

    I’ll stop now.

  120. robNo Gravatar says:

    RUFUS

    “I didn’t see Chicago Transit Authority play, RedDog.
    But I sure know a good guitar player when I hear him.
    http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=25+or+6+to+4+song&tnr=21&vid=&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DU.4522382281670663%26pid%3D15.1&tit=25+or+6+to+4-+Chicago

    omg one of my fav songs !

  121. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chicago’s main guys were Terry Kath, Peter Cetera and Robert Lamm.
    After Terry Kath accidentally shot and killed himself the band survived and was OK until Cetera
    left to go solo and then they became in my eyes a cover/ tribute band and a poor facsimile of what they were. Kinda like Lynard Skynard.

  122. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Terry Kath was the guitar player.

  123. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    “More than a Feeling” is a great, great song, Bullit. Too bad Boston crapped out.
    Chicago was an awesome band, great horn play to mix with the vocals and the awesome guitar.
    Skynyrd was an awesome Southern Rebel band with a message.
    Rush took over when they all died of drugs and whatnot.

  124. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    For guitar riffs this is one of my favorites and also happens to be a song I try to achieve everyday.
    The incomparable Joe Walsh
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCy8Xtp2P20

  125. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAvQSkK8Z8U
    Skeebers is going to ban me if I keep hogging his bandwidth.

  126. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- You can play the Independent like unca does. There is no way you aren’t voting for the Democrat. I have no problem with that, but be honest. That is what I have a problem with, dis-honesty. We know you are voting for Obama, just like unca and Spitty, who also claim to be Independents. Declaring is not what you guys want, you’d rather obfuscate so that another voter might be reigned in by declaring yourselves as Independents. Too funny! Subversion of the mob mentality.

  127. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I didn’t vote for Obama in 2008, Bullit. Why do you blindly assume I’m going to vote for him now?
    Assumptions start with an Ass.

  128. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSR6ZzjDZ94
    One if my all time favorites, Bullit.
    No guitar work, but great writing and so poignant. Hits you hard.

  129. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    OK Berger, You’re using Great as a level I reserve for Montana.
    I’d lop that out of my discussion until they reach Canton but, I can see your point.
    Winning multiple SBs and getting into the Hall make Great status on my scale.
    Even Marino would get trumped because he never got the Ring.
    I’ll just leave it at that.
     
    I’ll give you Alex as Good, whereas my scale uses the term Average.
    I already put Alex ahead of Romo and Ryan simply because of Playoff wins.
    Feel free to apply the Basher Tag, I don’t think we differ too greatly on how well Alex is doing in comparison to other contemporaries in the discussion.
     
    I measure Alex by his ability to pick apart a Defense and make all the throws.
    He’s not in that conversation with Manning/Brady or Brees/Rodgers yet.
    When he is, I’ll consider him one of the top QBs in the game.

  130. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    My apologies, Bullit. Reno wanted to know who I was voting for in the Presidential Election.
    Let’s see, Reno, it’s about 10-1 Obama in New Mexico. Gary Johnson had a gag put in his mouth by the RNC.
    Like my vote actually counts. New Hampshire has a U.S. Senator for every 2 people. Like Idaho, Montana, and Alaska.
    Let’s talk Constitutional Convention, and you’ve got my ears.
    Just be very, very, very, very careful about the Bill of Rights.
    As they say in New Mexico, no trespassing. Survivors will be prosecuted.

  131. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Anyway, I don’t want to talk politics, just quit trying to fool me. You can’t fool a fool.

  132. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Good comeback. I don’t put Alex up with Brady, Brees, Manning and Rodgers, those are all very good to great QBs. All I am saying is Alex Smith is a good QB. I think soon we will agree he is a very good QB. I’m not sure he will ever achieve the geat satus, but I am not going to say it isn’t possible.

  133. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Reno, I’m not an Obama fan. I was preaching about the national debt and fiscal socialism 40 years ago.
    If you want to paint me as something else, go for it.

  134. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I guess the acceptable term for the Top QBs is Elite by media terminology.

  135. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- You hate Republicans. Now obfuscate. If you notice, I’m not talking politics, just caling out my friends. RT, I wish we still talked. Since you moved to NM we have been strangers. Leave your phone number at my e-mail address: fortyninerberger@yahoo.com

  136. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Alex is not a top QB, but he is a good QB. I want to see you write, Alex Smith is a good QB!

  137. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I’d be very happy to have Alex in the coversation when you talk Playoff caliber QBs.
    He’s proven worthy by last years’ production.
    I just don’t see a consistant, confident surgeon yet.
    See how the Season unfolds when we hit the NFC West opponents.
    Those are the Defenses he’ll be expected to dissect.

  138. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I hate Republicans, Reno? What planet did the brews put you on?
    Come on’, I posted some guitar licks you’ve heard a million times, but still worth hearing.
    If your goal is baiting me into the trap of saying Alex is a great QB, we’ll see in the playoffs.
    He has 6 years of failure and a 10 point 1st qtr lead against the Saints which he almost blew to overome. He’ll get his chance against Ponder and Matty Choke.

  139. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Alex is a good QB Berger.
    Our scales are pretty similar.
    Your Good = My Average

  140. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RET- Not sure what you just said, but I know you hate Republicans! Call me! BTW, guitar licks aren’t political, keep posting them, you are doing great!

  141. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I left you a VM. You beat me to the punch, you ass hole! LOL

  142. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RET, from 8:13, was bad typing, it should have read RT.

  143. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    So that’s how it is Berger?
    I go from a Basher to an A$$hole?
    Glad we hammered out our differences here Pal.

  144. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’d rather be an ass hole than a, oh WTF, I’m not sure what I’d rather be. I just love being me, whatever that means! You’re OK too my friend!

  145. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Reno, you get my mail? I had a time getting through.

  146. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    It’s always good when the sun comes up and we’re still here to see it Berger.
    No Worries.
    We’re one big dysfunctional Family here.
    Who’s got it better than us?

  147. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Nobody!

  148. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Saturday Night Skeebers. It’s never a dull joint.

  149. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Could it be true? Drerk Jeter is out. Nothing could be finer than to hate the NY Yankees!

  150. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Derek Jeter is the most overated athlete of all time.

  151. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Screw the Skankees.
    I live to see them choke, along with the Phillies.
    Don’t follow baseball at all but love to hear them kvetch when they fall short.
     
    I’m the guy standing on the street telling them to jump from the ledge.

  152. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Most overrated title goes to Tony Romo. And Kiss of course.

  153. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck,

    With all the crazies out there on the interwebs I assume the street address that shows up under your name tag belongs to the guy who did some grievous wrong to you and yours.

  154. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ha ha. Could be . . .

  155. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Gonna be a brutal first half today.

  156. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Those screaming guitars on Free Bird sure sound good!

  157. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Imagine all those great looking women at tyhe concert as grannies now.

  158. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    The first half of the 1st Q of all the morning games have littered and inundated with nothing but INTs, fumbles and missed FGs.
    .
    But worse than that, my fantasy teams are off to even more horrendous start. Get with the effing program!

  159. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, you talkin’ about Gilfs? Although she’s not technically a grandma, Dana Delany fits the age group. Always been a big fan.
    http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2010/06/danadelany250.jpg

  160. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Berger. Matty “Stinks on Ice” has thrown not one, not two, but THREE INTs and they haven’t even reached the half.
    .
    I’m getting half-baked watching his sorry ass play this morning. My FF team is taking it up the poop shoot. All my players are anal retentive this morning. You know what they need to do? Rest their sphincters. I’d like to take a long rest on Ms. Stein.
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-cidmbbtYmh4uY/blazing_saddles_1974_urgent_telegram_from_rock_ridge/

  161. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis

    China Beach fan? Dana is OK.
    I have a preference for Jaclyn Smith, Jane Seymour and Cindy Crawford all 45+.
    The Ram Kicker Zuerlein who hadn’t missed up to today has missed 2 FGs in the wind. So much for his nickname of “legatron”

  162. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Tony “uh huh, ahem” strikes again. Good thing the Coyotes have the Baltimore defense.
    Don’t worry, Dennis. Peyton, Robert, and Christian are just warming up now.

  163. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    TD Tony Romo! I’m seem to recall someone on this blog kind of likes that guy, but I can’t remember who. 😀

  164. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, excellent choices. I’m a huge Jaclyn Smith fan myself. She was my favorite Charlie’s Angel and it wasn’t even close for the place money. Jaclyn’s not only beautiful, but she has class. She was raised proper down in Houston. Jaclyn’s gonna be 67 in two weeks. Where the hell has the time gone?

  165. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    49ers inactives: Tolzien, Jenkins, James, Robinson, Jacobs, Looney, IWilliams.
    .
    Kind of hard to bitch when your team is 4-1, but it’s never stopped me before…Neither of our top three draft choices have seen any action. And there’s something going on between Jacobs and Harbaugh. To say there’s a little disharmony would be an understatement. And Randy Moss? I’ll give ’em credit for putting on a good face, but he’s been useless. Now that I said that, Moss will have 6 catches for 66 yds. and a pair of TDs. Go Randy!

  166. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    The KC Chiefs are some serious sad sacks of shit this year. My neighbor form up the street is a huge Chiefs fan. He has two red KC helmet flags on each side of the hood of his car as he drives around our little town of Pinole. He just passed me the other day as I was walking home from the liquor store. All I could do was shake my head and laugh. I give ’em credit for sticking with his team, but goddamn man, lose the damn flags.

  167. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Damn, got my defense set just in time. Where does the time go?

  168. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis

    Yeah I always thought Jaclyn Smith had class too.
    Not even Farrah (RIP) did it for me.
    Well we know there are 3 Smiths you like, Justin, Aldon and Jaclyn and you’re working on the 4th.
    Go Niners!

  169. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Agent 99, baby. SHE was hot.

  170. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Rams lose! Fisher elects to run the closk down and try a 66 yd FG wide left. Talk about a prayer to tie.

  171. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ooooh Max!

  172. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Diz Bryant chokes the 2 pt conversion. Catch the damn ball!

  173. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Dez Bryant just dropped a perfectly thrown Tony Romo pass for the 2 pt. conversion that would have tied the game. But wait. Dallas just recovered the on-sides kickoff. Setting up for some Romo magic…

  174. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Can’t blame Romo for that loss. Jason Garrett is horrible at time management. Among many other things. He’s a horrible HC. But that’s on Jerry. That’s his guy. Jones cut his own throat with hire. Now it’s time to fire.

  175. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Pfft Barbara Eden. And, I would’ve camped out on Deborah Kerr’s doorstep if I had been a few years older.

  176. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Barbara Feldon.

  177. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Eli is kicking our a$$, it looks like it’s gonna be a long day.

  178. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Halftime and simply put need to send 5 or 6 to disrupt Manning. He’s in rhythm and is picking us apart.

  179. winderNo Gravatar says:

    yeah, D is gonna have to step it up. It looks very similar to the Viking game though and I think we are being outcoached once again.

  180. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    People had time to watch the film, with a full training camp this season.
    Jim is well known, and D-coords are not stupid.
    But then, what do I know? Christian is getting whipped by Robert today. Both on the Coyotes.

  181. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Winder, I’d agree with that. The NYGs play calling has got our D on its heels. Harbaugh is relying on gimmicks. Not usually a good home strategy.
     
    I’m a little surprised to see how much respect we’re giving to Bradshaw. And the lack of pressure of Manning. But we’ve been weak there all this year.
     
    Let’s see how we adjust in the second half.

  182. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Alex started off hot and went to stinking it up. He can still pull it out if he settles down. Oh Shit! Nevermind.

  183. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Stupid Joe Buck credits our D for the three and out. He’s the biggest joke in sports broadcasting.

  184. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Did a fan win some “Call the Plays for the Niners” contest? WTF is going on out there?

  185. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I dunno but we look really bad.

  186. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I think it’s about time for one of my 5000+ calorie chocolate sundays. They always make me feel a little better.

  187. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    And plug in some Israel Kamakawiwoʻole, Winder. That ukulele and slack key music behind a voice like can take some of the sting outta life.

  188. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Stunk

  189. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t get anybody hurt now.

  190. winderNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – Yeah we listen to quite a lot of local music. It truly is wonderful.

  191. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I dunno, this seems appropriate now.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=952h-AJ3Bcg
    Get the hell out of town. Youngstown, Santa Clara, whatever.
    Fergeddit about that stinkin’ pile of horse stuff. Get ready for Pete Carroll. He’s next.

  192. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Well that thoroughly sucked.

  193. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith played his worst game in the last 2 seasons.
    Kaepernick might be a talent but this Tebow type substituting just doesn’t work if a team is not caught by suprise and prepares for it.
    If their going to do this, they need to keep one QB in for a series because today they got too cute and iut backfired big time.
    Again another horrible offensive gameplan.
    Frank Gore needs to carry the ball 20+ times. Gore had 8 carries and if your running game is your team’s strength and you abandon it then you’re just making things easy for your opponents defense.
    Lose the turnover battle lose the game.
    Thurs game against Seahags becomes even bigger.

  194. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    SEA beat Brady’s Pats and the rest of the NFC lost. Maybe the short week will help us.

  195. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Defense dropped another pick six
    that would’ve changed momemtum but the way they played it might not have mattered.
    Alex Smith threw a duck to Delanie Walker. Walker could’ve tried to knock it down but he went for the catch which he had no chance at and the result was a pick. Alex Smith’s fault but Walker didn’t help. Walker has been a decent blocker but he’s been a zero catching passes this year.

  196. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    RT, there were some amazing records broken about 22 miles above your AO today. Hear about that?

  197. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear, I wasn’t paying attention. Everyone’s all been waiting for the balloon fest, but it almost snowed last week, so they were all grounded.
    New Mexico red chile, tortillas with cheese. Enchiladas and carne asada. Did the balloons go up?
    What records?

  198. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Successful mission today. Supposed to be on youtube but I don’t have any links. I haven’t had a chance to see it. Highest free fall, highest manned balloon flight, free fall jumper doing mach 1.25 or so, first sky diver to break sound barrier, etc.
     
    Wasn’t available yet on the link I have but should be soon. http://www.redbullstratos.com/

  199. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    There are so many balloons, they have to wait for the right weather conditions. They are not F-35s, but they will travel and the mountains in NM are dangerous flying.

  200. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    RT, here’s a condensed clip of the jump.

    http://www.youtube.com/redbull

  201. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Awesome.

  202. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Well here’s the difference between a game manager and a winning QB.
    Alex does not throw into tight windows and Eli does.
    No biggie in terms of standings but AZ and Seattle both won.
    Pressure is on for Thursday.
     
    Kaep can stick a throw, Alex cannot.
    Our pass rush didn’t show up and our Defense couldn’t get off the field once again.
     
    Do we really need Ginn to hold a roster spot any longer?
    Kyle is capable of handling the KO duties and extra WR spot.
    Although, he doesn’t get vertical quickly enough. Goes lateral or backwards too much.
    Ginn killed one running play today by jamming up the handoff.
    We need LMJ or someone else to handle the punt return duties.
    Ginn isn’t a factor at this point.
     
    Is Ice 100%? We were getting gashed inside today which isn’t something we normally see happen.
    RJF if somewhat suspect at the PoA.

  203. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, it (our front seven / D-line) got worse late in the game. It looked like some people were ready to go take a shower. You hate to see anyone give up before the final gun, but that’s the way it looked.
     
    All our CBs – Rogers, Brown and Culliver – looked slow today. I know the Giants’ WRs are good, but they made us look *really* bad.
     
    After we only got 3 points on the firs ttwo (mostly good) drives, it just seemed like the gas ran out. Alex started pressing and making awful decisions. Kaep IMO was not any better. He has a cannon but he really does not yet know what he’s doing out there.
     
    The splitting of QB time will not work. One or two or three plays for the backup is one thing; 20 snaps is bad mojo. You have to make a choice. Better to give Kaep the job than to split it and have neither guy get any continuity.

  204. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I know Grump, not a good afternoon all around.
    I will retract my earlier post, seems AZ got beat which is good news for us right now.
    I won’t panic at this point, we have work to do without doubt.
    Seattle is the only game that matters right now.

  205. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Kaep needs these opportunities to learn the ropes too.
    He puts his throws on a line but, isn’t close to reading coverages at this level yet.

  206. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It’s the difference of trying to use those Kaep plays to push your advantage, extend your lead. Then it works to keep your opponent off guard. Using those plays to turn the tide or launch a comeback run is kinda stupid. Especially since they had prepared for it and stuffed it.
     
    No QB can come into the game for a play and be expected to do much else. And no QB should be pulled in every drive to try some gadget and then go back in and continue to march. It’s bush league dumb and I’m amazed we tried it.
     
    It’s also pretty stupid to know you have to keep Alex in safe throws and extra protection and then give up on the run early and put him in a position you know he can’t handle. I don’t get it.
     
    I think the D just got outcoached and outplayed. The Giants game plan was perfect against us.

  207. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    It would’ve been 7-6 at half if Akers had made those kicks.
    Don’t read too much out of this. The Gnats feel lucky they won this game on the road against a great team.

  208. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Definitely looked like a college gameplan today for sure.
    We put this game on film and have to learn from it now.
    Still would like to see us work some edge and screen stuff too.

  209. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Too many bunched formations. It allows the defense to load the box and disguise their schemes. How about spreading the defense with better formations, even for the running game.

  210. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Shit.

  211. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The play calling was poor, the QB threw 3 ints, we missed two field goals, our QBs got sacked 6 times, we gave their QB all day to throw, we gave up very long KO returns, we couldn’t run, we could not stop the run, our receivers rarely got open and the coach challenges an obvious correct call. Other than that, how did you like the play Mrs Lincoln?

  212. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I meant the last out of the Giants game. Scheist.
    Guacamole, red chile, and sour cream are a great combo for the January parties.
    Now, see on Thurs. See if miserable failure Alex shows up, or future HOF Super Bowl Champion Alex shows up.
    I don’t play. I just eat the tortillas.

  213. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Pretty much Berger, we sucked.
    Gotta bounce back on a short week now too.
    If our pass rush doesn’t get to Wilson it’s gonna be rough sledding.
    Rogers had a couple of makeable picks today as well.
    On top of that, Culliver was looking more like a S than CB too.
    All around wasted day in terms of effort.
    Hate to think we look past the GMen but who knows?

  214. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    They are not going to face Eli Manning again until the playoffs.
    The Niners got their collective butts kicked every which way but Sunday.
    Don’t try to hide it, it was a TEAM SUCK. On National TV.
    Guacamole, chicken with a dose of sour cream. Try it, you’ll like it.
    Who is the Hawks’ QB this week?

  215. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Have to assume Wilson will be under center RT?

  216. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And unlike Eli, Wilson will move around and keep plays alive.

  217. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t know and I don’t care, NJ. He’s not Eli Manning.
    I forgot the New Mexico red chile with the enchiladas in January.
    Because that’s where Alex is going, to the playoffs, if he gets over this debacle.

  218. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If Seattle can befuddle the Pats Offense and Brady, we’d better have some answers after the turd of an effort we showed today.

  219. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Touche.

  220. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Thursday night lights. Let’s hope Roman/Harbaugh learned their lesson with KAppy. They killed their momentum on a bunch of drives. Eli had all day to throw. Missed FGs. The Niners seemed to lose their shit when NY took the 3rd q KO 65 yards. Alex’s 3 picks, Rogers drops picks, abandoning the run.
    .
    Harbaugh got too cute again. Glad this wasn’t the playoffs. But you just have to wonder WTF they were thinking with all the Kappy plays. And the complete lack of pressure on Eli.

  221. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck I think Harbaugh is beginning to realize the potential he has with Kaep.
    Alex puts up too many quails and refuses to take chances in tight windows.
    It’s an accuracy and confidence thing I think?
    Problem is, Kaep has no ability to pick apart coverages yet either.
    Kaep throws a great ball and can extend plays with his legs.
     
    I’m with Berger on the need to go spread more often then we are.
    At least that’s a start.
    Kaep would be more of an advantage in the spread too.
    Our plan today was too gimmicky and Alex made too many poor decisions.

  222. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Alex missed a very big play with Manningham down the sideline just as an example.
    That ball was too far inside and short.
    Whether that’s an arm strength thing or not, it was a poorly executed throw.
    I know you can’t assume Kaep would have made it but, it’s very obvious that Kaep sticks his throws more easily than Alex.

  223. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh is experimenting with the QB rotation. It’s interesting, but if you want to make it work, do what John Fox did with the playbook and Tim Tebow.
    The crap with the “wildcat’ isn’t screaming so loud in New York. But it sure puts a lots of stuff on film.
    Rice with New Mexico Red Chile goes really good in January. The Niners will be there.

  224. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s an interesting comment from CBS regarding the Pats game –
     
    ‘Seattle’s defense gave up a season-high 475 yards after not allowing any of its first five opponents to top 300. The Patriots went eight consecutive drives without punting, and ran 85 offensive plays to the Seahawks’ 55, yet could not get the touchdowns to put Seattle away.’
     
    Is that an indictment of the Pats ability to score or Seattles’ ability to prevent it?

  225. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Fact remains, we can’t score in the Red Zone either.

  226. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    We didn’t get into the redzone NJ

  227. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle has a pretty good pair of safeties. They may make their presence felt more as the field compresses close to the goal line.
     
    Wilson is a young, mobile guy like Ponder. He could be very. very good, or very, very bad, from week to week.
     
    We need better play all around, but particularly from QB, WRs and DBs this Thursday.

  228. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No, not today 12th, even more reason to be concerned.
    We stalled and missed FGs.
    We’re just not in any sort of rhythm.
    I’m not sure what the problem is?
    Is it Roman or Alex’s limitations?

  229. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The game still stinks.
    Bury it.
    When you’re done, I’ll help with the shovel and pick to bury it again.
    Seattle and the ‘Hawks next.

  230. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    We moved about 50, 60 yards on the first drives and stalled. As much poor field position and a long field to drive as anything, IMO. Then Eli got hot and it was all over.
     
    Akers concerns me. He is in a real slump now.

  231. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I hear you Grump, we won’t have an easy time of it on Thursday.
    Not to mention, they can run.

  232. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Better yet RT, burn this pile of turdage.

  233. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    That whole ggame, NJ.

  234. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    *game*
    Seattle on Thursday.

  235. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Indeed.
    Need to take care of Division business.
    Seattle has now beaten GB and the Pats.
    We’d better pick up an extra win on them before the regular Season concludes because the tie breaker scenario isn’t in our favor so far.

  236. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    If we go 3-0 the next three divisional games, this will dwindle in importance. Not that that will be easy.
     
    It’s all about getting INTO the playoffs, then getting hot. No one cares or remembers who won in October. It’s all about winning in January and February.

  237. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    1 W. Grump, Just 1 W.

  238. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    For sure Grump.
    We need these Division games first and foremost.

  239. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The first drive was stalled on the 25 when Kappy came in and got nothing on a run. Smith had converted 2 3rd downs on the drive, and then they went with Kappy. NJ, keeping Alex in may have kept the rhythm going. At least early on. It made no sense. I can see it on the goal line, but not in the middle of a 10 play drive that Smith had led that had covered 60 yards. Akers misses, end of drive.
    .
    2 drives later they false start on the Kappy play, they punt. Yeah, the line blocking was awful, but those early drives were sabotaged by themselves.

  240. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You could call Seattle’s game vs GB a win. No, it ain’t gonna be easy. In fact, a bad loss would muddy the waters some.

  241. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I agree Chuck, too gimmicky and definitely a momentum killer.
    Leonard was lined up as a TE on that false start if I recall correctly?
    We shat the bed in our own yard and looked totally inept on 3rd downs for most of the day.
    Shades of last Season.
    Thought we were looking for payback and had gotten better prepared?
    We regressed. Big Time.

  242. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    No. 1: Was Harbaugh trying to “stick it” to Carroll?

    Absolutely.

    First, he said it felt like the right thing to do because the Cardinal was coming off the ball so well — one of the all-time lame explanations for anything.

    Then he said it was because of the time-and-score — as if the difference between a 29-pt lead and a 28-pt lead meant anything.

    Both are four-touchdown margins, and guess what: There were six-something minutes left and USC wasn’t scoring four touchdowns and EVERYONE IN THE COLISEUM KNEW IT.

    Especially Harbaugh and Carroll.

    No. 2: Was it a poor display of sportsmanship?

    Absolutely.

    No. 3: Does Harbaugh care what anybody thinks?

    No chance. None. Zero.

  243. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, Carroll wants this next one bad. So far, Harbaugh has Carroll’s number. Big fricking game. Seattle looks pretty damn good. They are clicking. We are in a bit of a shambles.

  244. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh better have a better plan than what he showed up with today.
    If Alex gets pressured like this on Thursday he’d better make some hot reads and get the ball delivered.
    We’ve looked inept against pressure.
    Too many tipped balls today too.
    Either we aren’t cutting well or Alex is telegraphing the throws.
    Total Horsesh!t today.

  245. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh owns Pate Carroll. “You take myin and he’ll beat you with his hisin. He takes yourin and he beats you with myin”. -Bum Phillips on playing against Don Shula’s teams.

    No. 3: Does Harbaugh care what anybody thinks?

    No chance. None. Zero.

  246. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We’ll see RT?
    He’s got a short week to get this stinker out of their minds and get focused for Pete the Cheat.

  247. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Big momentum swing to the Team that grabs this W

  248. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I just wanted to say that Alex Smith continues to live down to all my expectations.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH7qq7OjJO8&feature=relmfu

  249. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Somebody on Skeebers blog wrote that Eli Manning threw a 20 yard out better than any QB in the league. Before that 2nd Ring, imagine that. A couple guys here were quick with the lasso and the hanging rope.
    I hate to be right when it comes to an L for my Niner, but fess up.
    Skeebers, you and RedDog are excused, we knew you weren’t here.

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10-15: @ Packers, 5:15 pm, Mon.
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7. WR Richie James
 
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