FA Brake Down

There’s been a lot of early season jitters as the blogorama shakes off the rust of the long offseason and gets its tonsils game ready. But one week into the new season, the collective nerves seem to be settling down a bit.

The early reactions focused not only on the lack of FA acquistions by the 49ers, but also the fellows vacating the team, primarily on the defensive side of the ball. To the national media, this seemed like a mass exodus. In reality, the guys who left the team were on their way out the door last year. And let’s face it, they didn’t do too well last year, either. To recap:

Manny Lawson: wanted a contract extension last year and the team declined. It’s not that Manny isn’t a good player, but he did not give the team what it wants from the OLB position he played. Namely, any pass rushing ability. His replacement did not need to be gathered in FA because it occurred on the first day of the 2011 NFL Draft, when the team selected Aldon Smith. Net gain, Niners.

Abrayo Franklin: badly overplayed his value and nearly slunk back to the team with lowered demands. The Niners never expected Franklin to return this year and planned all offseason to move Isaac Sopoagna to the nose instead. Whether the Niners were correct in their assessment of Sopoagna or not, won’t be known till we play some games.

Nate Clements: Nate’s play has slipped the last two years, but the team would have brought him back if his salary demands were reasonable (to the team). They were not. He’s now a Bengal, along with Lawson. The team has four young CBs on the team, plus the recently signed Carlos Rogers. One of them will take Nate’s spot and it’s hard to see how their young legs will fare much worse than his old ones.

Takeo Spikes: Spikes’ replacement was drafted in the third round in 2010 — NaVorro Bowman. Bowman is as fast as Patrick Willis, or nearly so, giving the 49ers probably the fastest ILBs in the league. Speed over age, again. Spikes realized he might spend most, or even all, of the 2011 season on the bench, so he took his chance to leave town for a starter’s spot in San Diego.

Dashon Goldson: the team wanted him back, but he is overplaying his hand in FA and has yet to be signed by anyone. As a precaution, the team signed an eight year veteran who had virtually identical stats to Goldson’s last year. The team also has four young safeties already on the team. Goldson might return, but if not, his loss would not be all that harmful, if at all.

David Baas: the Giants overpaid for this guy and Adam Snyder, the player many blognosticators felt should replace Chilo Rachal at RG, now moves to center instead. Snyder was a poor RT, but not as poor as Baas was at LG. I don’t see much of a dropoff, if any, with him taking over the center spot now, although the team might still sign a FA veteran.

Of the players who thought they would be in demand on the FA market, none were.

The new 49er coaching regime had all offseason to evaluate the team, more so because of the lockout than would usually be the case. Clearly, they did not feel the above players were all that valuable. Nor did the team evidently feel there was a player or two at the top of the FA market that would put the team into a new stratosphere. Nnamdi Asomugha was the only player that would have given the team a real jolt of improvement, but he clearly wanted to play for the Eagles. The team does have a lot of young players (17 from this year’s draft + last year’s) that will be given a chance to prove themselves, before the team starts replacing them with FAs. Why draft players, if you are not going to play them? Ask Mike Nolan. He would know.

As has been pointed out by our esteemed commentators, teams have to be cap-compliant by the end of today, because the new league year begins tomorrow. We could see a lot of veterans released today and in the next few days. The good news is that both of the team’s top two draft choices from this year are already impressing the hell out of the veterans on the team. Since those two represent pass rush and QB play, the future looks close and much brighter.

We will know more about this year beginning in less than two weeks, when the exhibition games begin. And we get to see what the biggest FA acquisition of the offseason can do — Jim Harbaugh.

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122 comments on “FA Brake Down
  1. TonyNo Gravatar says:

    Your right on the money Skeebs! And your correct…there will be more veterans on the market soon…but i want to see what the young guys have…go niners!

  2. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I wasn’t concerned for who we did not sign as much as being so dormant filling needs. When I thought we were 30 mil under the cap I was perplexed. Then I read that at the start of the new league year we are only about 14-18 mil under, and then we sign Carlos Rogers, bringing us out of the Bill Bidwell cheap realm, I’m feeling a litle better. I still think our D-line needs beefing up.

  3. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    “Why draft players, if you are not going to play them? Ask Mike Nolan. He would know”.
     
    Only he would know. But Singletary had a bunch of young players he didn’t play either. I can’t believe we suffered through 8 years of incompetence, led by people with football IQs of near moron. Bill quit, Eddie got bored and we slid into absurdity with no leadership whatsoever. Right now I’m willing to believe the new regime will provide that again. Finally.

  4. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    And a cheerful good morning to you Bergs…

  5. robNo Gravatar says:

    osi for a 2nd or antwan odom for a look !

  6. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I’m okay with our 3 starters, but there isn’t much, if any, depth behind them. Maybe we’ll pick up some beef today. We still need a 3rd QB, too.

  7. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Good morning Phil!

  8. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think we still need another NT so Sope doesn’t have take all or most of the snaps. He’ll be injured by mid season. RJF is not a NT, unless you want to use specifically for one gapping. Hello Curly Culp.

  9. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    With the exception of CB and C, we had starters at all other positions. None of the top tier guys is going to come in to be a backup. Those type guys are the ones we’ll be picking up now.

  10. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Picking up a starting CB was a big deal for me. Now for another NT, unless they think they are going to get quality minutes from Ian Williams. That would be a shocker for an undrafted rookie FA. I think he’ll be good but don’t expect anything from him in year one, the position is just too tough. Hopefully something will develop soon.

  11. Mr FletchNo Gravatar says:

    Look for some cheap free agent backup signings through Friday as other teams release players to meet the salary cap.

    I’d love to see a trade for Samuels from the Eagles, but I can’t figure out what that trade could possibly entail.

  12. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Yes, we should see how things play out before we sharpen up the knives.

  13. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Samuels ain’t coming. Most of what they do going forward will be of the Carlos Rogers one-and-done type deal. Rogers may not even make it to the end of preseason.
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    I’m finally down with the org and what they are doing. The front office will never utter the word, but they are in full rebuilding mode. The big clue is the one-year deal for Sir Alex Sucksalot.
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    If this team was looking to do what Seattle did last year, and try to make a playoff run, they would have approached this differently. It’ll be very interesting to see how this plays out over the next few years. The Niners (appear to) are in full evaluate and draft mode. Seattle is going all-in, signing FAs and trying to pull the quick turnaround. You can say they are on track, as they won a playoff game last year. This year, the competition will be a bit stiffer. Mainly from the Rams. The only team in the division with a QB worth a damn (at this point anyway). Going forward, though, you have to wonder if Carroll will run out of cards to pull out of his hat, and leave the team in a shambles in a couple years. He splits while the team flounders, and he gets a huge payday from a college program dying to give him millions of dollars.
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    The Niners appear to be in full rebuild mode. This year will be about player evaluation and installing a new system. If that can sneak some wins out of the team hey, great. But they aren’t looking to make a big playoff push this year. Like KC a coupe years ago, they are in full-on practice mode this season.
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    It’ll be painful, but the last 5 years of trying to patch the leaky ship while it sinks hasn’t been working.

  14. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I couldn’t disagree more, Chuck. The Niners are not in rebuild mode at all. They’ve already re-built the O-line, the LBs, the safeties, the RBs, and we have young WRs. Where’s the full-on rebuild you speak of?

  15. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    They also fully intend to compete for the division title this year that they feel they should have won last year, if Singletary hadn’t gotten in the way.

  16. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Rebuilt the line? Really? It was pretty damn shakey last year. Yeah, they’ll improve. But the guys the have are young, for the most part. And under contract. The safeties? Rogers might not make it through the preseason. They are signing guys to one-year deals (for the most part). Their kicker got a 3 year deal. And Old McDonald.
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    Take a look at the defense. If they wanted to make a playoff run, they would have gotten players. Not hung around on the sidelines for the most part. They would have kept AF.
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    If they were serious about a playoff run, they would have gotten Hasselbeck for a last-gasp effort from him.
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    I don’t see how this can be percieved any differently. If this FA period is looked at as a playoff push, then they ARE cheap bastards.
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    This season is about evaluation and development.

  17. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Rogers is a CB who league guys say is an upgrade over Clements. There’s no health issues with the safety they got, they have Taylor Mays, Reggie Smith who are young and can play, too. Everyone is signing one year deals throughout the league, because the FA period was truncated and the market was glutted. Even so, the Niners have only signed two of those. McDonald is not old and is entering his prime. You may not like him, but the team does. Hasselbeck? Smith is better than him and Kaepernick is in the wings. Your post is baloney, I’m afraid.

  18. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Signing Carlos Rogers to be our corner is akin to taking home the only the girl left at the bar at 2:00. We missed out on all the hot chicks.

  19. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers, if by “league guys” you’re referring to Greg Cosell, the guy Maiocco quoted, you’re FOS. That was anything but a glowing review. Cosell said Rogers has a “better physical skill set than Nate Clements at this point in their careers.” “But Rogers plays with big cushions and gives up a lot of completions.” Nowhere did he say Rogers was a better corner. And this quote should tell you all you need to know about Rogers: “Carlos Rogers has a lot of ability but no confidence.”
     
    No confidence. If you’re a CB in the NFL and you play with no confidence, you’re toast. For all the shit I give Clements, Rogers is a step down. Are you beginning to see the pattern here?

  20. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Mike Lombardi just moments ago on the NFL Net. regarding Rogers and Williams: “Both players are band-aids on a wound.” That’s a direct quote.
     
    See. Pattern. Here.

  21. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, the point is, they could have thrown a lot of money at FAs to improve the team. They chose not to.
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    The guys signing one year deals aren’t cream of the crop. They are mid-range guys. If they wanted to upgrade the CB position, they had many options. Nnamdi? 5 years. Chris Carr, 4 years. Jon Joseph, 5 years. Cromartie, 4 years. Shit, Ike Taylor got 4 years. Rogers is decent. He’s likely $12 million cheaper than Clements. If you thin kthat doesn’t factor in, then I can’t hep you.
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    There’s no health issues with Williams? Tell him that. A lot of people think he plays tentatively because of the injury.

  22. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Smith is better than Hasselbeck?
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    Based on what?
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    Certainly not wins and losses.
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    I don’t want to go down this road for the 10,000,000th time, but at some point results matter.

  23. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, it’s not his fault!

  24. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Del Mar had it right: this Rogers is a 3 who became a 7 as the bar was closing. He’s a nobody who did nothing to distinguish himself on a bad pass defense.
     
    His acquisition reminds me of Sammy Davis, who Nolan picked up in a trade of draft day busts. Had a great name, nice kid, couldn’t really play NFL CB. Lasted half a year.
     
    OTOH, Marc Roman couldn’t play worth sh*t either, and had a nice little career here in Nolanland.
     
    I’m not going to slit my wrists over his signing, but to think he is somehow the answer to any of your problems is to ingest a full bottle of Rob’s Little Happy Pills. My prediction is, if he lasts the year, he’s gone in 2012.

  25. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    At some point, results DO matter. If you don’t believe me, try telling your boss when you get laid off, it’s not your fault your work was shit, it’s because everyone else on your team sucked and management didn’t train you right. Uh huh, next!

  26. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    It’s official, the York’s are cheap bastards: 49ers announce they plan to practice in Youngstown, Ohio, between Week 3 and 4 games at Cincinnati and Philadelphia.
     
    We’re saving money on airfare and travel. I now know the big FA the Niners picked up — William Shatner — Priceline Negotiator.

  27. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    A new metric for analyzing QBs… and guess what? Alex sucks.

    espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/42758/qbr-bradford-smith-and-the-division. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb

  28. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis, you ever been on a plane? I didn’t think so. They are saving 18-20 hours of plane time, and 4 time zone adjustments.
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    The players will be thanking the FO on this one.

  29. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis Hate to ruin your day but the Niners just signed C Jonathan Goodwin to a 3 year deal.
    Starting C for the Saints for last 3 years.

  30. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t know about ‘rebuilding mode’ but it is clear that Harbaugh is going to build through the draft and we will have a lot of young players going forward. As it should be. The guys we are signing now are stop-gaps at best just signed to fill holes for now. The real upgrades will come from the recent and future dafts- CK, Aldon Smith, guys like that. Presumably we will have some other good youngsters already on the roster. Evaluation continues in the second week of training camp.
     
    Hey 8-8 could win this division. It’s going to be close and I don’t believe JH is planning on ‘rebuilding’ his way to 3rd place this year or ever.
     

  31. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, you ever been on a team charter? I didn’t think so. It’s another 4 1/2 hr mini-vacation for the players. If you think management is making this move with the thought of saving the players some airtime as their top priority, I got a few things I’d like to sell ya.

  32. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Goodwin yes! I’m gonna run out and buy of box of kleenex for Dennis

  33. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, you didn’t ruin my day. All you did was eliminate one of the many “A***cuses” that you and your brethren will have for this year. You can no longer blame the center from when A*** fumbles the snap.

  34. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Make that 2 boxes of kleenex

  35. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Goodwin was a pro bowler last year. Should be an upgrade, though I will caution that he has played between the best guard tandem in football the last few years in Evans and Nicks. Iupati may get to that level but we’re still sorting out the right side. Still, this bodes well for the near future. He’s 33, but should have two or three good years left.

  36. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    So much for the idea that we’re only gonna sign stiffs to one year contracts this year. JH came unglued when a reporter asked him about ‘rebuilding’ this year. So I heard, wish I could see that!

  37. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I’s give Snyder first shot at
    Rachal’s spot.

  38. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Tweet from Barrows:
     
    “At the risk of going overboard after a few days of training camp, Aldon Smith looks dominant. Just put 250-lb FB Moran Norris on his back.”

  39. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe we finally have an A. Smith who can play.

  40. bigtimNo Gravatar says:

    there’s been some steady progress on FA signings there will be more when the cap adjustments come out on thurs but so far, solid if unspectacular signings, as much as Rogers has bricks for hands he is a solid cover corner and will be a good filler for the Clements void he may not have many int’s but he does tackle well and is a play maker.
    the center from the saints is another solid guy who should be able to help the rookies get going with the new blocking schemes, I like the Snyder to chilo’s spot at guard and get a trade done to get rid of that turnstyle for a lineman.
    Goodwin also is a good pull guy and screens are def in the WCO playbook.
    who knows who else will be available after thurs that will be interesting.
    as much as B.Edwards is a bit of a problem child he can run and catch a ball the jets had one of the worst passing games in the league and he was solid when the ball came his way, no word on any contract for his services yet

  41. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Tweet from yours truly in reply to Matt Barrows’s tweet: You, me and the mailman could put 250-lb FB Moran Norris on his back. Norris sucks.

  42. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, I remember one of NoFear’s play breakdowns that shows Norriss completely whiffing on a block and falling to the ground w/o touching anyone.
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    Classic. They’ve GOT to get rid of him. He’s the M Rob of this season.

  43. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Make that 3 boxes of Kleenex.

  44. robNo Gravatar says:

    guys , you might be surprised to hear it , but i like the recent moves we’ve made !

    if we re-sign goldson our secondary will be pretty good ! rogers has better speed than clements so will be better covering fast WR’s. he’s also younger ! williams , the free agent from minn. will add experience at safety !

    CB spencer FS goldson SS r. smith CB rogers and S williams S mays and CB t. brown give us a good seven deep DB group !!

  45. robNo Gravatar says:

    i want to be bullit ! delmardennis says he has brethren !
    can i have some brethren

  46. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Sounds good on the kleenex count Skeebs: one for each piss and moan starting today from our favorite hysteriac for the rest of the month. That should give us an over/under of about 120, right? I’ll take the over, yuk yuk.

  47. robNo Gravatar says:

    Goodwin was the Saints’ starting center during their 2009 Super Bowl season and made the Pro Bowl as a reserve in 2010 !

    this is an upgrade !

  48. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s hope that what we are hearing about Aldon Smith is a harbinger of things to come. Or would that be a Harbaughiner?

  49. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Rob, my new Mantra – Comp Pick TriFecTa –
     
    Goldson completes the deal.
     
    A-D-I-O-S Goldson.
     
    Bad angles, can’t cover. That’s no way to play FS I’m afraid. He’s a SS posing at the wrong position.
     
    Madieu ain’t cavier but he’s an improvement over Dashon and obviously came in at a much Cap Friendlier Number.

  50. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, we both agreed at Draft time that Aldon has that Haley-esque build and take off.
     
    The long arms and the leverage are the gift. If an OT loses the reach matchup, I call it advantage Aldon.
     
    I’m quietly optimistic that this kid will turn some heads this year. I want to see him laying Bradford,Kolb,TJax et al on their collective asses for a LONG TIME.

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Tambi Hali and KC worked out a 5YR Contract – He’s off the list.
     
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/tamba-hali-chiefs-do-a-five-year-deal/

  52. robNo Gravatar says:

    NJ
    i kinda would like to see some of our players like goldson with real coaching before i make up my mind about them!

  53. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    From Schefter:
     
    “As of this morning, there are five teams over the salary cap: OAK $15.25 mil; PITT $8.5m; DET $7.8m; DALLAS $6.7m: HOUSTON $3.25m.”
     
    It’ll be fun to watch who gets cut from these teams today.

  54. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Dallas signed a safety yesterday while over the cap. I’d say Goldson has lost an option for his “big” contract.

  55. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Ravens signed a safety yesterday, too.

  56. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Wouldn’t surprise me if Goldson signed somewhere else just to save face like Franklin did.

  57. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It would seem at this point in time that Goldson’s view of himself is much bigger than the league’s view of him.
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    With all of the one year contracts being signed this year, I would expect next year for all the FAs to be in the same situation as this year, just earlier in the year.

  58. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Outside of rob, does anybody really care if Dashon comes or goes? I know I don’t. In fact, from what I’m reading in comments, some do care, they just want him gone.

  59. robNo Gravatar says:

    to repeat

    i would just like to a chance see some of our players like goldson play for a top head coach before i make up my mind about them!

    i’m also not happy with losing spikes and lawson ! our LB group is weaker now !

  60. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Goldson’s just not very good, Berger. He had good games in 2009. Before and after? Not much.
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    I don/t know if the team did anyting different then, but he’s constantly out of position, and late with help.
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    Yes, it would be nice to see what he could do with better coaching, but he (like Lawson and AF before him) has painted himself into a corner by stating he thinks he deserves a big payday. He ain’t getting it, and he’ll end up with a 1 year deal in Cincy? The home for wayward Niners?

  61. robNo Gravatar says:

    oops
    i would just like a chance to see …
    some of our players like goldson play for a top head coach before i make up my mind about them!

  62. robNo Gravatar says:

    CHUCK
    or san diego !
    😉

  63. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    . . . 6 good games in 2009 . . .
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    Spikes is not a loss. Bowman was taking over anyway. Lawson? Feh . . .

  64. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t want to be aesopian so I’ll just come out and say it. Goldson needs to Lasorda or get off the pot. Nobody wants to give him what he wants. He needs to sign something with somebody and get into a camp.

  65. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Goldson’s moniker on Twitter is theHawk38.
    One INT does not make you theHawk.
    He obviously thinks he’s all that when there are many parts of his play that needs improving. Right now he is not a playmaker.

  66. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    On Driver’s TD catch against the Niners in the Packer game last year Goldson missed tackling Driver twice and he was initially Goldson’s man in the zone.
    Those are the things he must fix.

  67. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Goldson’s agent is Rosenhaus. There will be a meeting with the 49ers next week.
     
    Unless someone around the league gets hurt in the next week, he’ll be back.

  68. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Whoa. Schefter says Niners sent out mass email around league trying to trade Taylor Mays. WTF!

  69. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    WTF? Can you say bust? Maybe he and Pete C. could patch things up in Seattle. 49th overall, I wonder what Mays could fetch in return? 4th, 5th rounder?

  70. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I actually liked the Mays pick at the time, but of all the guys that have been misplayed at their respective position, it’s been Mays. He needs to play withing 5 yds of the LOS and wreak havoc at the point of attack. Carroll did Mays no favors playing him 20 yds deep at USC, and the Niners didn’t change that scenario much. Pass coverage will never be his strong suit, but he could flourish as a S/LB whose main function was to break up plays as they happened at the LOS.

  71. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    But sending out a league-wide e-mail announcing May’s availability is pretty dumb. If other teams know he’s available, they’ll make the 49ers drop their asking price because they know they’re trying to dump him. Not very smart GM work on Baalke’s part at all.
     
    “Pattern here beginning to see, you must.”
    –Jedi Master Yoda. He’s a Niner fan as well.

  72. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Call me crazy but I think with Taylor Mays’s size and speed he could be used to go after the QB. I’d be tempted to turn him into an OLB that can cover and rush the QB. Obviously I believe there is something to what Del said on his 12:59 post.

  73. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Either you play Mays up like Tim McDonald and hide him in coverage, or you cut him. He is never going to be an Ed Reed centerfielder. There was only one centerfielder named Mays. Sadly he’s gone, though the memories linger.

  74. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Schefter now reports Niners have signed safety Donte Whitner.

  75. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    According to Barrows, it was Singletary who pushed hard for Mays, prompting a heated argument with Baalke in the draft room. Then Sing pushed Mays into the lineup, causing Lewis to quit and later on the secondary coach, too. Just getting rid of him it looks like. Harbaugh doesn’t have time to train him.

  76. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The Whitner signing doesn’t bode well for Goldson. He may have priced himself right out of a job.

  77. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Goldson just tweeted he won’t be back.

  78. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    OK, Reno, yer crazy . . .
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    Yeah, I read that account that Barrows mentioned. All it shows me is that this organization still needs a GM that isn’t a lackey for the ownership.
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    If Baalke is really the GM, it’s his call as to who gets drafted, not Singletary. This is exactly the problem with letting the HC direct the team to his liking.

  79. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah all the guys who grumbled/held out last year are gone: Lawson, Franklin, Goldson. Over-rated themselves. Singletary was a pushy bully/control freak who should never have been given authority over drafting. That’s on Jed.
     
    More gifts from Singletary keep coming to light. He can have Mays, we are going to cut him anyway.

  80. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Goldson is an idiot probably headed for Cincy wow

  81. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m hearing Goldson made a tweet about Mays. Might have been a bad move. In any event, can’t be too sad about his exit. Too many chances, too few results.

    Donte Whitner is a solid but not special safety. Keeps everything in front of him, makes the tackle, but doesn’t get INTs (5 in 5 years). Another stopgap guy until we find someone better.

  82. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Remember the ‘rat’ last year? He said the biggest problem with the team was the lack of hierarchy. No one knew who reported to who.

  83. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    This Mickey Mouse organization is showing its true colors. Red and Gold? More like Jed and Fold.

  84. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    PF- Cincy was flirting with Whitner, so maybe so.

  85. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Kleenex box number four has been opened for business.

  86. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Screw the Kleenex; get the barf bags ready. Alex’s first practice is today.

  87. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll say one good thing about Whitner. He should make for a good IDP safety in the fantasy leagues. With Soap at the nose and Patrick Willis losing out on tackles, they’ll be funneled Whitner’s way. The tackles will be made 8-10 yds past the LOS, but that’s besides the point.

  88. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Another Kleenex box for Grumpy.

  89. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Need a spreadsheet to track the kleenex + barf bags around here, har har.
     
    Yeah I remember the ‘rat’ who told the truth much to the chagrin of the control freak MS. They hate reality/truth that exposes their limitations. Singletary the GM, what a joke. There is no barf bag big enough to contain my response to that moron. God we had no idea (some did) what we were in for last year. Someone said he lost the team after the first game. Exactly.

  90. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It proves that 49ers are in stealth mode. They can keep things on the down low and suprise
    people like Goodwin and Whitner
    coming out of nowhere.
    More moves to come.

    I always thought Taylor Mays might bulk up and become a rush LB. Mays has no football instincts. So maybe “see QB, Kill QB” might be the way to go.

  91. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Braylon Edwards just signed a 1 year deal with the Niners.
    Niners are on fire!
    John York made me say that Dennis.

  92. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Wow just great what they are doing and how they are going about it. Stealth mode yes. They can keep their secrets because they trust JH and have confidence in each other. Contrast that to last year’s crew. Surely this will translate to the players on the field. Can you say Team? Nice.

  93. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I think I see a pattern here.

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis I said give them 2 weeks and you trashed me.
    One week down amd more to come.

  95. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Which pattern is that Skeebs?

  96. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Pattern? We’re signing goddamn criminals now. Bullit, you cannot honestly be praising the Braylon Edwards acquisition. Seriously. Are any of you happy with this signing? If so, you can go to goddamn hell. What happened to Harbaugh and Co. talking about having 49ers with “gold stars” next to their names? The only thing Braylon Edwards will have next to his name is a goddamn serial number.
     
    Pattern? This team is making me sick to my goddamn stomach. So sick that my hatred towards them for this year has reached new heights. You guys want to support this team? Go right ahead. You think this team will win this year? Put your goddamn money where your mouth is. I’m accepting any and ALL bets that the 49ers will not have a winning record this year. You thinks so? Then back your shit up. No way in hell does this team win 9+ games this season. You think otherwise? Let’s go. Otherwise STFU!

  97. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Please, let me reiterate: I’M PISSED!

  98. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis Will you put that $10K in escrow?

  99. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Man, we’ll need more than Kleenex here. A crying towel is definitely called for.
     
    Here’s a Schefter item we can all get a laugh out of:
     
    “49ers committed $16 mil in 2011 to Akers, Rogers, Goodwin, Whitner, Edwards, Williams. Raiders committed $16 mil in 2011 to Michael Huff.”

  100. robNo Gravatar says:

    wow we’re in free agency stealth mode ! too bad we’re stealth mode for win too !

  101. robNo Gravatar says:

    ok DELMARDENNIS
    here’s one to cheer you up !

    with the signing of edwards we now have both players considered possible choices for the #1 pick in 05 !!!

    and just for you next time i’m fishing off the beach i’ll make sure i don’t have any shrimp in my pockets so the sharks won’t bite my peter off !

  102. robNo Gravatar says:

    DELMARDENNIS
    pic of a snook !
    (not mine but very similar)

    http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a139/flherd1971/DSC03960.jpg

  103. winderNo Gravatar says:

    As chuck would say: Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. None of these moves are earth shattering, but as the dust settles I think we are better off. Now, lets go get that backup QB, and put the Oregon qb on the practice squad.

    Hey chuck, I think I’m gonna steal that “Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeet” from you, there are so many times when it’s appropriate.

  104. winderNo Gravatar says:

    oops, not sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet, but sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

  105. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Rob, OK, I recognize the fishy now. I watch that fishing show, the “Spanish Fly” on ESPN. The guy does all his stuff out of the Florida Keys. Good stuff, Maynard. Lots of different species to be caught on numerous tackle, style and baits. You live in a beautiful section of our picturesque country, my friend. But fer chrissakes, get the hell outta the water!

  106. robNo Gravatar says:

    wow
    we have the 1st,3rd and 9th picks from the 05 draft now !
    well i wanted to trade down and add extra picks that year !
    now i know why they say ‘be carefull what you wish for ‘

  107. winderNo Gravatar says:

    rob – that’s actually funny.

  108. robNo Gravatar says:

    hey for a team that said we won’t be major players in free agency we sure are signing a boatload of guys !
    we’ve signed about 8 mid priced free agents now
    what happened to building through the draft!
    i guess we only do that when the good free agents are there ! you know , guys like jonathan joseph and cofield !
    imo adding these two to the team we had would have been the way to go !

  109. robNo Gravatar says:

    holy crap WINDER
    i’ve been trying to be funny on here for 3 years ! don’t tell me i just now succeeded !
    lol
    btw check out the fish pic at 7:00 i caught two just like it !

  110. robNo Gravatar says:

    this doesn’t sound too bad …
    ..SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) – Pro Bowl wide receiver Braylon Edwards and the San Francisco 49ers agreed to a one-year deal, the National Football League team said on Thursday.

    Terms were not announced but according to local media reports the deal was for $3.5 million.

    Edwards had 53 catches for 904 yards and seven touchdowns last season for the New York Jets.

    Taken with the third overall pick by the Cleveland Browns in the 2005 NFL draft, Edwards has amassed 326 career receptions for 5,142 yards and 39 touchdowns.

    In 2007, he broke the Browns’ single-season records for receiving yards (1,289) and touchdown receptions (16) earning a Pro Bowl selection.

    no charges were filed against Edwards, a former University of Michigan player who played with the New York Jets last season. Birmingham police said they had no knowledge of Edwards being involved in the fight, mainly because they were too busy at the time trying to break up the melee.

  111. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, shark bait! That’s you, Rob. Please read this account and tell me you think Edwards is gonna skate on these charges. He’s in trouble. Big trouble.
    http://tinyurl.com/3pol85v

  112. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    He already copped to a DUI – that’s a four-week vacation right there, right? If he gets in more trouble, he might not be playing this year at all.

  113. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Wonder if he knows what Dogfather is?

  114. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh played with Stanley Edwards, Braylon’s dad at Michigan.
    The Niners contract was smart because not one penny was guaranteed for Edwards.

  115. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, the contract was smart? I’m not talking money here, Edwards is gonna miss some games because of his actions. He is going to be suspended. We signed a guy who’ll not be able to play a full season. You like that move? Of course you do. You like everything the Niners do. They could sign O.J. Simpson to a 1-yr contract and you’d make it sound like a sound decision on the Niners part. Unbelievable.
     
    Hey, Berger. A little heads up. When you call me tomorrow morning I probably won’t be in the best of moods. Just a guess…

  116. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Where’s the 49ers third QB? Like I said all along, there’s not gonna be one. Or if there is, he’s coming in a little late. First preseason game is a week from today (Friday, 12th) in New Orleans.
     
    A*** S****
    Colin Kaepernick
    Sac. St.
     
    I’m sick and tired of this goddamn pattern.

  117. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Hey rob – Nice fish.

  118. robNo Gravatar says:

    DENNIS
    “privately, employees at South Bar said Edwards was spurring on his cousins rather than trying to get them to stop fighting.”

    meh

    WINDER
    not my fish but pretty much exactly like the ones i’m catching here !

  119. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis You’ve got to ask the Jets why they signed Santonio Holmes last year knowing he was going to miss 4 games.
    Edwards might be suspended for 1-2 games.
    Edwards knows if he takes a misstep he’s gone. If he grows up
    and calms down on his social activities. I’m OK with him.

  120. robNo Gravatar says:

    BULLIT
    i say why not ! he’ll at least fill in for crabs while he’s out ! we have money to burn and a 1 year deal is no risk !

  121. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas: L 10-40
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia: L 10-33
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona: L 10-20
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants: W 31-21
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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