49ers 33, Buccaneers 14

The San Francisco 49ers won their tenth game of the season Sunday in Tampa, giving them three straight years of 10+ wins for the first time since the Steve Young era in the late ’90’s. One more victory or an Arizona loss will clinch the sixth Wild Card seed, while two more victories will earn them the fifth seed. For you wildly optimistic dreamers out there, two more wins coupled with two Seattle losses at home would push the Niners all the way up to the number two seed!

One week after an emotional win over the Seahawks, the team traveled cross country and surprisingly did not open the game in sleep walk mode. In fact, they controlled the game from the outset, taking a 20-7 lead into the fourth quarter. Six seconds into that quarter, however, Tampa scored on a 24 yard pass from Mike Glennon to Tim Wright and suddenly it was anybody’s ball game at 20-14.

What happened next might earn an award as the outstanding drive of the year. The 49ers ran off 17 plays, covering 77 yards, plus 15 more to overcome a ridiculous Michael Crabtree penalty for picking up a dead ball and heaving it into space, consuming ten minutes and 27 seconds before the drive finally fizzled at the three yard line, forcing the team to settle for a FG and a 23-14 lead.

The Bucs had a mere 4 and a half minutes left to overcome the nine point lead, but they fumbled the kickoff and Kendall Hunter snatched up the ball and stepped into the end zone and suddenly it was a 30-14 game. This TD drive took a mere six seconds. A ten minute drive and a six second drive and a six point lead became a 16 point lead and game over.

This is two straight games the 49ers have gotten the ball in the fourth quarter and improbably run out the clock. Six minutes against Seattle and ten against Tampa. Against Seattle, it was Frank Gore who delivered the big play with his 51 yard run, but against Tampa the final drive was all about Colin Kaepernick, who kept the drive alive with his feet and made some throws no QB in the league could make. The 14 yard pass to Crabtree on 3rd and 12 that began the drive (and overcame Crabtree’s idiotic penalty) was a side arm laser while running sideways and backwards. Scary good talent.

The 49ers don’t play again until next Monday night against Atlanta in what probably is the final game of the long and storied career of Candlestick Park. By the time they take the field for that historic event, Arizona will likely have been defeated in Seattle the previous day, putting the Niners in the playoffs and making the final two games of the year more or less meaningless. An early Christmas present. Sounds good to me.

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  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    A good win! The play calling is improving but still stunk. There were some great individual efforts to get around that. Kap’s two scrambling throws to Crabtree, one for a TD. Kap’s run through two tackles for a 1st down and Boldin had a great run on a short pass that went for a first down. Without those efforts this game would have been in doubt. The botched kick return sure helped too.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Yes a satisfying win on a day where a lot of contenders were tripped up.
    Kap finally trusted his gut and took off and ran at the right times.
    Any hesitation and the window would’ve shut. When he has the running threat planted in a defense’s mind things loosen up in the secondary.
    VD going one on one deep with Barron, I would’ve tried that play 3 or 4 more times until they stopped it.
    Goldson wasn’t much of a factor yesterday.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap is still locking on to his first read and not scanning the field. He’s a little better but this clearly shows he missed throwing a TD to Crabtree who will never be more open.
    This is on the Boldin spectacular one hand catch which was a thing of beauty. GIFs courtesy of reddit 49ers


  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Yesterday’s game was in Tampa where Eddie D lives now.
    Good to see him on the Niner sideline.
    It would be a good guess that he’ll be at the Stick next Monday
    for perhaps the Niner’s last game there.
    I have no illusions that Harbaugh would leave this work in progress.

  5. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I wonder whart the odds are of Mike Singletary becoming the next Dallas coach.

    It would be the prefect blend of chutzpah and window-dressing. A Jerry Jerk-Off Blue Plate special. The perceptual hard-nosed coach trying to instill discipline while keeping his pants up. Maybe Teflon Mike gets another shot. Garrett is definitely gone.

  6. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Went on Stub-hub to look for tix. Pricey to say the least. My old work phone had the person I got the tix from last time. Aaak. Pisser. Oh well. Got to a game this year so that’s cool.

  7. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- I’m not sure what your fascination with pointing out Kap’s flaws. He got the 1st down, would you want to try and change that? To go to Crabs he would have had to reset his feet allowing extra time for a sack. Only a cross body fling, which are often very inaccurate, could have got the ball to Crabs with the same timing. I think he made the correct decision. Plus, the cameras have clearly shown his eyes going to his third reads many times over the last few games. If you are so dissatisfied with him, what is your solution?

  8. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    From a clutch standpoint, that was Kaeps best game. Some crazy on-the-run throws and runs to keep drives going.

    “…but they fumbled the kickoff and Kendall Hunter snatched up the ball and stepped into the end zone…”

    While technically true, they fumbled a HANDOFF on a kickoff, which illustrates a little more directly the bone-headedness of the play. What a wonderful oops that was.

    “… making the final two games of the year more or less meaningless.”

    More than less, IMO. If we’re the #6, and we win round 1, round 2 would be in Seattle. If we’re #5 and win Round 1, we’d likely play in New Orleans. I grant that the latter is preferable, though there is a part of me that wants to go up to Seattle and beat them in their house. First things first…

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bad news and a big blow.
    Harbaugh just announced that Bruce Miller has a scapula
    injury and hinted he could be done for the year at his press conference.
    He mentioned they contacted Marecic to come in and also mentioned Anthony Dixon.
    Miller was the team’s third leading receiver so adjustments will have to be made.

  10. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    My best-case scenario would be to have Seattle play Carolina in the 2nd round of the playoffs as they are 2 of the top teams 3 teams in the NFC. The 49ers being the other one.

    Crazy thing is, the Niners could end up with a better record than the 2 seed. I mean, we are already light years better than the 3 and 4 seeds.

    But as you said, Barley, once the playoffs start, it’s a whole new ball of wax.

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I call it like I see it. The video shows him staring down Boldin to the point where the defense has time to rally 4 guys to the ball. 7 yards to the right Crabtree is wide open.
    His pass to Boldin required a circus catch and was low and outside.
    IMHO some of you guys are too sensitive to the criticism that
    Kap gets. It is no different than any other QB in the league.
    For me that’s part of being the starting QB.

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Maiocco wrote this about Miller’s injury solution
    “The 49ers also figure to use formations calling for two tight ends with Vernon Davis paired with Vance McDonald, Garrett Celek or Derek Carrier to compensate for the loss of Miller.”


  13. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Miller’s almost put up VMcD numbers, eh, Bullitt?

    Settle down, It’s a joke.

    The point being, what they’ll miss is Miller’s blocking. He’s led many a long run by Frank. Let’s hope Marecic, or whoever they pick to put in his place, can pick up our blocking schemes quickly. No easy task from the looks of things. Catching a wheel route or dump-off isn’t as big an issue as the blocking assignments are.

  14. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    IMO, some of you are too quick to point fingers. Much like Jason Garrett of the Cowboys. . .

    Bullitt, you seem to think that Kappy should be much further along his growth curve of being an NFL QB. How many starts does he have as compared to his peers? What happened to Cam Newton last year? Or RG III this year? Or even Andrew Luck? Are they worthy of your scorn? Or is it just Kappy?

  15. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “IMO, some of you are too quick to point fingers.”

    Coming from you, Chuck, that’s pretty funny.

  16. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- You call it like you see it but maybe you don’t see it so well. I can take any QB from any game this year and point out a receiver he did not see. You are nit picking. We got the first down. If he takes the time to go to Crabs maybe he gets sacked because of the extra time it takes to reset his feet. Then you would’ve been on here saying he should have thrown it to Boldin.

  17. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, someone has to lighten up around here. But the point remains . . . Bullitt has been jumping down Kappy’s throat at the expense of all else, including the playcalling issues that have been noted by many . . . Sure, he shouldn’t miss reads. But neither should anyone else for that matter.

    Shit, Johnny Unitas missed John Mackey wide open deep left, and instead threw a pick trying to hit Ray Perkins IIRC. Woulda changed the game entirely.

  18. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Didn’t see yours, Bergs . . .

  19. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You are watching the same video.
    Does Kap look at any other options? I see him staring down Boldin
    period. Like I said Crabtree is in the same area waving his arm.
    If he goes to Crabtree it goes for a TD.
    Risk reward.
    The drive stalled and Dawson ended up kicking a 43 yd FG.

  20. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If you want to nit pick, what about Gore dropping a pass that was mid thigh high against the Saints that would have won the game. Oh, that’s right, it was nit picked, that Kap didn’t throw a chest high pass. Give the kid a break. He won the game for us yesterday, what else is supposed to do. I think some here get too sensitive about the play calling being called out because they are trying so hard to sell us on the flaws of the QB.

  21. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What if he goes to Crabtree and the extra .5 second causes a sack and we never get the 1st down? Extremely possible. We won the game for Pete’s sake. I choose to be happy about the 1st down. We won the game!

    There is a technique where you do lock on to a receiver to move the safety. Sometimes the faux receiver is open so you just throw it to him instead of going to the next, and actual, read. Who is to say that isn’t what happened here? It is possible.

    Tom Brady once explained an interception he threw. He was intentionally locked onto a receiver and the primary was the 2nd read. The first guy was so open he just threw to him. Safety got over and picked it. Funny how even Tom Brady can make a mistake. God forbid that was Kaepernick.

  22. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, maybe Kappy throws an incomplete pass there. Maybe Crabs tips the pass and TB returns it for a TD. Woulda coulda shoulda doesn’t cut it. You can’t know the outcome of something that didn’t happen.

    Put it this way. What are the options? Should McCoy be in there? Should they accelerate Kappy’s learning curve? How? He’s had 21 reg season starts (15-6), and 3 playoff starts (2-1).

    That isn’t even 2 full seasons of starts. Yet he’s not progressing fast enough for you? Who is? Look what happened to Luck without Reggie Wayne. They’ve become very ordinary. RG IIIs world is collapsing around him.

  23. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Damn it Bergs, quit posting the same shit as me!

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    There’s a young QB in the NFC West that’s kicking our ass.
    If Kap doesn’t equal or exceed Russel Wilson’s play the Niners will always be second.
    The Seahags don’t make excuses for Russell Wilson’s youth or inexperiemce but we should for Kap?

  25. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- I’m not sure what Kaepernick is supposed to do. After all, I just call them like I see them. Kap has started 21 regular season games and is 15-6. He even got to the Super Bowl! I think that is good. Obviously that is not good enough for you. He is battling a sophomore slump made worse by obtuse play calling. No QB sees every read but in Kaps case that is not acceptable. Please provide your solution.

  26. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Correct me if I am wrong but Kap beat Wilson the last time the two played. The Seahawks blamed the refs. Wilson has played well. Give him some credit. I’m happy with our QB who was in the SB while Wilson watched. With better play calling Kap has looked much better the last 4 games. And speaking of that, Wilson is blessed with a much better play caller than Kap. I’m not ceding anything to Wilson just yet. I like our QB.

    If I’m going to nit pick one thing about Kap it is his side arm throwing. It is OK when on the run but not while in the pocket. It compromises too much touch and gets balls batted at the line. He can work on his mechanics in the off season.

  27. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll give you that, Bergs. Uncanny that Wilson rarely gets a pass batted down at 5′ 11″ while it happens once in a while with the 6′ 4″ Kappy. Seattle’s O line does a great job of opening up the throwing lanes, which ios part of it. Our pass blocking is a work in progress. But yeah, getting Kappy’s arm up in the pocket would help.

    Last I checked Russell Wilson was 2-2 against the 49ers, bullitt. Hardly kicking our ass. You count the points, I count the wins and losses.

    Funny thing is, Seattle is 24th in passing yards. Hardly the passing juggernaut some make them out to be. Passer rating has Wilson at 6, Kappy as 15. QBR shows Kappy at 6 and Wilson at 8. Pick your poison.

  28. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That being said, I don’t think anyone, including Wilson makes a couple of those plays Kappy made yesterday. The pass to Crabs on 3rd and 12, and the run for the 1st down on 3rd and 8 spring to mind.

  29. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    This is an unfair comparison but as a 49er QB it’s inevitable.
    Montana was 25 years old (Kap is 26) and started 24 regular season games when he won his first Super Bowl for the 1981 season.
    So Kap should be right on schedule without the excuses of youth.

    The window for the team to win is now.
    I am hard on Kap because he’s the missing piece. This team will only go as far as he can take it. The Niners will not win in spite of Kap. It’s not going to happen that way.
    They need him him to lead them and play at a consistent high level to have any chance.

    If you see any other scenario please lay it out.

  30. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If you ever watched the Seahag comeback against the Texans Wilson had similar type runs and also had a sideline pass with toes down.
    Just skip watching the Dick Sherman pick six.


  31. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- You are evading my question. Now you are trying to turn the tables on me. I am laying it out. Kap is the QB and that is my solution. I also want better play calling like Seattle has. I do understand Kap isn’t perfect but who is? And I am seeing better play calling lately.

    Kap beat your QB Wilson last week, what is your excuse? Let me ask the question once more to see if you answer this time. Since Kap is not the answer in your expert opinion, what is your solution? After all, our window is now.

  32. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- I found evidence that Wilson has thrown an interception. After listening to you I did not think this to be possible. You led me to believe he never misses anything.


  33. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Are you drunk?

  34. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Haven’t had a drink since a week ago Friday. What is your solution to Kap being the wrong QB for us? Our window is now.

  35. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right, Bullit. Kappy should be held to the standards of the best quarterback in history.

    That’s completely reasonable.

  36. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Deetroit’s awful chippy tonight. They are going to penalty themselves right to a loss.

  37. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    If he doesn’t play at a higher level we’re screwed.
    It’s all on Kap. That’s the way it’s going to play out.
    No more excuses.

  38. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Wilson is not my QB.
    Please don’t go there.
    I hate the Seahags and the 12th man.

  39. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So, if Kappy doesn’t win the Super Bowl this year, what then, Bullit? Since he didn’t meet Joe Montana’s timetable, he’s a failure? Might as well use our 1st pick on a QB, eh?

  40. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- I disagreed that Kap made the wrong read. You then said you call it as you see it and inferred that I am too sensitive about comments on Kap. You then let us know how much better Wilson is and told me mhe is kicking mour ass. Where am I supposed to go with that sequence. You obviously are not a Kap fan and that is OK. Since Kap does not play at a high enough standard for you, what is your solution. Please lay it out.

  41. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Isn’t Jason Fauria the TE from UCLA you pointed out last year that we both liked? He just scored his 7th TD of the year.
    At 6-6 he just went over the CB for a great catch.

  42. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Justin fricking Tucker! 61 yard FG! Wow. Davkid Akers mass is calcifying as we speak. Ooops. No bother. Stafford with a pick.

  43. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It was Nedney that had the calcified mass. Akers had the hernias.

  44. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hernias, masses, let’s call the whole thing off.

    Say what you will about the Ravens, they somehow manage to stick around long enough to pull wins out of their asses.

  45. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Would have been cool to see Akers out there with a shot at winning it. Just for the nostalgia factor. Stafford threw a duck there. Musta been the wrong read.

  46. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    What college is Justin Tucker from?


    Just like Phil Dawson

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Fauria went undrafted.
    Levine Toilolo went to Falcons in 4th rd and will replace Tony G when he retires.
    Toilolo is about the same size as Toilolo.

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Toilolo is the same size as Fauria and Jimmy Graham
    All are 6’8″

  49. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Guys I’m in the same boat Bullit is rowing.

    It’s assumed that Kaep is ours to keep, which is why Alex was dealt.

    My analogy has been that Kaep is not yet relaxed and is rushing his reads.
    The biggest difference I see between he and Russel is the demeanor/patience factor.

    Perhaps it’s as simple as mental make-up, perhaps as complicated as OLine security.

    Either way, it’s never as easy as setting a comparison and having unreachable expectations. Each guy becomes more proficient at his own pace.

    We can all agree Kaep will improve as he gains experience.

    I for one, am hoping he finds nirvana in the system ASAP and learns to become the assassin Montana once was.

    Berger you use play calling, I use pocket awareness/patience/field vision deficiencies, as possible areas that need improvement.

    It’s not as simple as a right or wrong answer.
    It adds up to ‘many factors’ contributing to, our passing attack needing to improve.
    Crabtree felt he had several opportunities to make plays yesterday which Kaep didn’t deliver on.
    Both Bullit and I are saying the same thing. It happens in this game.
    Everyone wants things to work perfectly all the time.
    We also know, that’s impossible.

    I have no doubts that Kaep will continue to improve.
    Harbaugh has proven to me that he knows how to develop QBs.
    Alex is the shining example of that.

    Pretty fair to conclude that Harbaugh sees a higher ceiling for Kaep, which is all Bullit and I are hoping to see him attain.

    To change the OC is to do to Kaep what was done to Alex, force yet another learning curve into the QBs head that likely causes regression.

    Russell has had a better Receiving group around him, as well as the benefit of more game experience.

    Comparisons are never ever evenly applied, like opinions, they differ by individual.
    It keeps us involved, it keeps us hungry for improvement.

    None among us have the answer, only more desire for the perfect game, the perfect beast, the ultimate prize.

  50. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Eric Reid is a very smart DB, a thinking man’s type of player.
    Nate Clements not so much and this still haunts me because the old pathetic Niners had victory snatched away (although it’s hard to fault Nate, just give Roddy White props)


  51. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The decision is moot, NJ. I’m nearly certain Roman leaves anyway to be HC somewhere else. Maybe even Dallass. The continuity is Harbaugh.

  52. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Suprising Tweet from Barrows

    “Hearing that Jim Harbaugh’s college fullback Owen Marecic will NOT sign with the #49ers.”

    Curious if Marecic is pissed he got cut by the Niners or what’s his deal?

  53. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The bone I have to pick is Bullit’s assertion that Kappy is on some sort of timeframe. I mean, since Montana won a Super Bowl by his 24th start, what the f*** is wrong with Kappy?

    His assertion that he should be on the same learning curve as Montana, arguably the best QB in the world, is ludicrous. Beyond the fact that Bill Walsh dapohed him. If Kappy wins a Super Bowl in 2016, is that palatable? Is that soon enough? Gee, how old was Elway when he got his? 36?

    There are a trillion variables, and Kappy nearly pulled it off in his 11th pro start. I still assert that the coaches did no favors for Kappy this season, as the WRs were all hurt, and they weren’t giving him many outlets. They tried forcing him to stick in the pocket, and seemed to take away his spontaneity. He played a lot freer last year it seemed.

    Does he need to improve? Sure he does. So do the coaches. So does the team. So do the popcorn vendors. Like Harbs enjoys saying, you are either getting better or getting worse. You do not stay the same.

  54. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If Dixon doesn’t know the blocking schemes by now, then I don’t know who they go with.

  55. BergerNo Gravatar says:


    “Berger you use play calling, I use pocket awareness/patience/field vision deficiencies, as possible areas that need improvement.”

    The first thing that comes to mind when I read this is, brilliant deduction. Any other words of genius?

    Obviously he needs to work on pocket awareness/patience/and field vision. What QB doesn’t? Especially one with 21 starts. Look what happened when Peterson and Gerhart went down in Minnesota? They called plays for the QB instead of the RB and had their best game of the year. We need a game plan that allows the QB to make more decisions, kind of like Seattle does for Wilson. Alex Smith said the biggest difference between SF and KC is he is not being restricted all the time in KC. Like I told you yesterday on the phone, you and Bullit seem to really be all over Kap. It does not suprize me at all you two are rowing in the same boat.I think Kap is progressing just fine, especially for the restrictions he has to work with. While you two are rowing a boat, I’m miles ahead in a speed boat. I just wish I could get Roman out of his row boat and into something faster.

  56. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, the only thing I’ll say about that Roddy White/Nate Clements play is that it played a part in getting Singletary out of town. One of those blessings in disguise.

  57. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger the botton line is this, Kaep is learning THIS System.

    He’s not in complete command of it in many areas.
    I can’t teach you to see things through my eyes and, vice versa.
    Kaep has to see things through Harbaugh and Romans’ and HIS eyes, while dodging bullets.

    It’s not a knock on Kaep, simply an observation.
    He’s missing things and WILL improve over time.

    Every opponent presents a new challenge.
    You seem to think I’m beating on Kaep. I’m not.
    I happen to love the kid.

    I’m just another Fan wishing for a 6th Lombardi.

    Is your speed boat making things happen any faster than my row boat?
    We’re 9er Fans. We’re anxious and starving for the prize.

    Maybe Roman has a whole play book of goodies we’ve never seen?
    Things Kaep can do with his eyes closed?

    I happen to think Roman is pretty conservative too.
    I also think he’s gotta go at the speed Kaep can absorb, and deliver on, too.
    For now, Roman runs this show so, I’ll have to believe he knows more than I do.

    I was very patient with Alex as you know.
    He got bounced around from OC to OC.
    Hoping that doesn’t happen to Kaep.
    I do believe Peyton is Peyton because he kept Tom Moore at his side for years.
    Is Aikman what he is because of Norv?
    Alex did well with him.

    Continuity wins for me.

    Kaep is a special talent.
    All I’m going to expect is good effort, hard work and eventually, SB victories.

    For now, a solid Defense, a reliable running game and whatever it takes to WIN is all that matters.

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Did you see Kirk Cousins in ATL Sunday?
    I happen to think he’s more polished than RG III simply because he’s a pocket passer.

    RG III is similar to Kaep.
    Each guy has to learn to be a better pocket passer.
    Kaep is a work in progress.
    For now, I’m happy he’s playing in SF.
    He’ll get better as he goes.

  59. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ said it all pretty well.
    I’ll go with that and spare the ad nauseum banter.

  60. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Roman came from college with a game plan. It worked until the Rams exposed it last year. When everybody else started to defense us this year like the Rams did last year, Roman did not start to adjust until 4 games ago. He is not a visionary, he is more of a reactionary. I believe Harbaugh probably stepped in and taught him some things. Just a guess. It is very rare for a QB to thrive in an offense designed for a RB. Bob Griese did but those were the old fashioned defenses. Alex did a fantastic job with this style but he still looked a bit confused at times as ANY QB would when not given the options to make enough things happen. He sure doesn’t look confused anymore. Even though they have Jamaal Charles, Alex is running the show on the field instead of Roman trying to run it from the press box. You two and your love affairs with Roman at the expense of Kap is a head scratcher. And no NJ, you were not patient with Alex. You were even one of the loudest celebrators when Dunbar knocked him out. I agree Kap has to improve but I believe Roman has a bigger responsibility as the designer of our offense and he needs to improve more than Kap. Maybe that will happen and maybe it won’t, at least it has been better lately. One thing is for sure, with improved play calling the last four games Kap has looked much better, I look for us to take one more step, from better play calling to good play calling.

  61. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Two rumors on Marecic.
    One that Baalke wasn’t on the same page in picking him up what doesn’t seem plausible.
    Second that Marecic wasn’t up for such a big role which if you read between the lines means he’s out of shape and not football ready.
    #2 seems more likely so we shall see what happens here because clearly Miller is going on IR.

  62. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve always said the 3 things needed to win it all(with some rare exceptions) are a D-line, a QB and a play caller. That will make a team competitive, how everything else is filled in around makes for championships.

    We have two of three. I think Harbaugh is very smart. He will evolve this offense, just not at the speed that I like. He has been successful with this style and change will come slowly. I don’t mind being patient but when people are beating up the QB when most the blame should be on the coach is something I am going to debate. Kap is not a five year veteran. He doesn’t have the collateral to step in and tell the coach what he needs. That will come in time. The biggest change will be when Robaugh decides to let their field general run the show on the field instead trying to make every decision from the press box.

  63. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I’m beating up on Kap? Please look at my 8:30 post from yesterday.
    My next post was an observation on one play and there is visual evidence to support my point. You need to relax. It’s just my opinion on one play.
    next thing I know I have Berger talking about Tom Brady and Knucklehead talking Johnny Unitas.
    Take a step back and you’ll see you’re bending over backwards over nothing.
    If I were nitpicking and attacking Kap I would criticize him for missing the deep balls to Vernon Davis and Crabtree but I realize you can’t hit on everything so I only bring that up to illustrate.

  64. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Define an “experienced QB” because you keep posting Kap’s resume.
    (the running count od games started)
    How many games must a QB start to become experienced in your opinion? I’ve asked you this a few time and you haven’t given an answer.

  65. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So much for sparing the ad nauseum banter.

    Brian Billik said around 4 seasons of starts gets you experience. It used to be 5Maybe a little too long, or too old school, but he’s the coach. My contention all along is much like what Bergs is saying. And I’ve been saying it as well, for yeaers now. The OC isn’t helping the situation. They just recently started getting the ball out of Kappy’s hand faster. It took from the middle of last year til 4 weeks ago to use more than one slant every 3 weeks. SOME of this is due to the fact that none of the WRs were geting open, but a lot of it has to do with the fact that when there’s pressure in the pocket, there’s rarely a checkdown. No release. How many times have you seen Kappy (or Smith) break contain, and the WRs are all facing downfield? It has been a problem for a while. Look at the Seattle game. Wilson was throwing to guys with NO ONE near them. Kappy is more often than not throwing into traffic. Last week’s game was fairly rare in that Crabs worked back toward Kappy a few times on broken plays. Yay! It is a new wrinkle for these guys.

    And Bullit, are you serious? You harp on that one play for 5 posts, and then give Bergs shit about responding to it?

  66. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- You might have just shown one play but you show a play or three every week. It is getting ad nauseum. I do not remember you asking me how many games a QB must have before he becomes experienced. I’ll answer that but when are you going to answer my question. Since Kap is not the answer in your mind, what is your solution? I’ve asked that question many times and you keep ignoring it. I’m starting to believe you are just bitching with no solution.

    A QB becomes experienced when he becomes experienced. A running QB from college usually takes a little longer than a pocket passer. Wilson is a running QB that ran a pocket passer offense at Wisconsin. Luck looked plenty experienced and now he doesn’t. Some of that has to do with losing Reggie Wayne. Alex was starting to look the part under Norv Turner, then came Hosler and the shoulder injury. Fans decided rto beart up Alex instead of the coaching. It is also difficult to get field general leadership when the OC makes all your decisions for you. At some point the QB has to lead the offense on the field. Some OCs never relinquish this power. Kap looked like the guy Sunday. Roman has been giving him more responsibility lately. Maybe we are starting to see a some better chemistry between the two. When that happens Kap will look plenty experienced. Bill Walsh understood this thoroughly. Does Roman? I don’t know but I have my doubts. I would think Harbaugh understands this as a former QB in the NFL. I think it is possible Harbaugh gives Roman a lot of space, like he does Fangio and steps in when needed. Roman is on a learning curve too.

    I try to look at the positives while you are busy pointing out the negatives. That is a formula for debate. Even though I mostly blame Roman for Kaps slower than fan patience will allow development, I do see him progressing well and am even pointing out Roman’s improvement. Face it, Roman has been bitch slapped around by opposing defenses this season with his Chuck Knox game plans. Even Frank Gore mentioned how well teams have game planned for us. It seems you don’t see that.

  67. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Here what a hypocrite you are (no surprise). You dismiss Dilfer and Steve Young because you claim they are not in the locker room when their viewpoint differs from yours. Never mind that they have Niner ties, are ex Niner QBs and Steve Young still says we when talking Niners. never mind that they know something about being a QB having played the position.
    Never mind they are voicing opinion only after film study.

    Now that Billick supports your view you are quoting him?
    How many times have you mocked and dissed him for what he has said and suddenly he’s one of the three wise men? Be consistent and I really could care less on what you think.
    See even though NJ and I share the same view you are just attacking me. Same chickenshit approach just like I pointed out last time on the press conferences and your tepid response on your own blog.
    It doesn’t matter what you or I say we did. The proof is in the words that people read that are posted. That’s where the truth comes out, where the rubber meets the road.

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I thought I answered your question at 7:24 pm yesterday.

  69. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    This problem precedes Kaepernick. It precedes Harbaugh. These offenses these past 9 years have been very plain. Very run-based. Very low-risk. Mooch was the last offensive-minded coach. Erickson was neither, so I don’t even think about those years.

    NJ, what pisses me off is something you mention. And that’s the fact that we’ve all said “yeah, they are saving some nifty new plays for the playoffs.” And we get the same slow-developing plays. I said at the time, I think the fact that they played Kappy very little in the preseason did him no good. Sure, you need to protect your QB, but he had like 15 plays in the preseason. And the offense seemed to regress by their insistence to make him a pocket passer. This was Nolan’s error with Smith. Taking the freewheelingness out of the offense stifles his game. At least that’s how it has looked this season. And it isn’t like I want the 5 WRs every play deal, just incorporate the things Kappy does well. Rollouts. Quick passes. Move the pocket.

    And, they ARE finally throwing quick passes. Maybe it’s becauser the have Crabs back, or because there’s some kind of progression Kappy made that we can’t see, but these types of plays have been screamed for these last 9 years.

  70. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- If we’re screwed is your solution then that is why I missed it. You kind sound a little like Del. You can trust me on this one. Kap will play better because he is gaining experience and the play calling has been improving. I have faith it will continue to get better as Roman evolves.

    If Roman doesn’t improve, we’re screwed! LOL

  71. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    So, to summarize the Great Debate of our time:

    “Jane, you ignorant slut!”

    Time to make the popcorn!

  72. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    No I didn’t say we’re screwed period like Denny would, I said Kap must play at a high level or we’re screwed. If he plays like he did against the Panthers or the Aints you can make Sunday plans with the wife.

    You are giving Roman too much credit. He can call the play but he can’t make the plays on the field.
    Playcalling can only get you so far. Otherwise Walsh would’ve won 10 Super Bowls instead of 4.

  73. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    It’s a 2 way street, Bullit. All we’ve seen in these parts for the past 9 years is a very plain offense. Smith said himself that he was very held-back by this offensive scheme. Even through the improvement of 2011 and 2012. If Kappy was in Pete Carroll’s offense, or Andy Reid’s, I’m sure he’d have better numbers, and more success.

    Not a hell of a lot more, but more just the same. 15-6 ain’t all that bad. Neither is 2-2 vs Seattle.

  74. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    A bad play is a bad play is a bad play, Bullit. Running up the gut 15 times to get one through isn’t very efficient. Neither is throwing a bubble screen when there are 10 defenders on the line.

    These are things we’ve all seen too much of. Yes, things are getting a little better these last couple weeks. But there’s vast room for improvement. The red zone offense is SO conservative to the point of being pure dogshit.

  75. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    At the line of scrimmage Kap seems to choosing which play to run based on what he’s reading.
    I’ll give you another criticism which I believe is very valid and says a lot. It confounds and frustrates me when Kap changes the play at the line and the play clock hits zero and for a few seconds after he’s still barking out the snap count oblivious it expired.
    Correct me if I’m wrong but does he not see the play clock?
    At this pace how is it possible to run a hurry up offense?
    Why is Kap so bad at play clock management. If you can’t get past that your offense has a problem.

  76. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- If Gore doesn’t drop a pass vs the Saints we win, but it is Kap’s fault? Gore even said if doesn’t drop that pass we win. Did you hear the east had a terrible snow storm? That is probably Kap’s fault. You have turned to pulling stuff out of the air. Ad nauseum is being defined right here.

  77. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve complained about the play calling for years. One of my main problems is calling two plays in the huddle. Every team that does it has to call a time out or two over it in each game. Alex had that problem here, he doesn’t have that problem in KC. You are correct about that sir, it is a problem. Please tell the coaches it is a problem. Calling two plays in the huddle is a coaches decision, not Kaps. I hate calling two plays in the huddle, I have never seen it not burn time outs.

    My solution would be to call one play and get to the LOS quicker. If the QB needs to audible he has time to do so. And then he would have multiple choices of what to call instead of choosing between two plays that might both be losers, if the ball can even be snapped in time.

    This is my point of empowering the QB instead of everything being controlled by the press box. Maybe Roman is just a control freak?

  78. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Jesus Christ, Bullitt. Shoot the messenger, eh?

    Yes, Bullitt, you are wrong. Don’t you think it’s a little strange that Alex Smith had to call a lot of timeouts? We had a lot of delay penalties? Why? Becuase Smith would get calls relayed from around the world to the QB coach, the OC, then the HC, and then relayed to him. Like the play calling, clock management has been a problem since the Nolan era.

    Kappy isn’t the outlier here. He’s a victim of the system. Read that line 5 times and let is sink in. Haven’t you been paying attention all these years? You act like these problems didn’t exist before Kaepernick. News flash, skippy. They did and still do. Hmmmm.

    ?SHit, Skeebs, you pay Bullitt to generate traffic? He’s jelly. He’s on a roll.

  79. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The point to all this being, and Alex Smith did just recently say it, is that the Niners system is too limiting. There are no audibles except to change the play from run to pass, or vice versa. No switching to a blitz pick-up hot read or things of that nature. It’s all too structured.

    What if the 2 plays called are shit for what the defense shows Kappy? Oh well, let’s run up the middle and burn a down. No biggie.

  80. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Keep up with the cheap shots jerkoff.

    I’m wrong?
    This is a simple process that maybe even a moron like you can even understand.
    Play clock reads 7 seconds you can’t change the play.
    Run the original play or else call a time out.
    One day the light bulb will go on that trying to play beat the clock isn’t worth it and being in a panic mode just to get the snap off is not good for a team’s rhythm.

  81. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Why did Alex Smith have so many problems getting plays off? Or Shaun Hill? Or Tim Rattay? Or Ken Dorsey? Because of the 2-play calls per huddle deal. Again, you act like this is a new problem.

    Yeah, run the original play. Brilliant idea! Why didn’t I think of that! We have a sweep called, and the D is packing the line with 10 guys! Run it anyway! So simple, a village idiot could figure it out. No matter that it’ll lead to a 6 yard loss. Run it anyway! That leads to turnovers, skippy. Call a time out? You only get 3, duh. THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

    It’s also why the audible was invented. They dumb down the offense to 2 plays at a time, when they could call one play and allow for audibles. Calling one play gets it in faster, and allows for the QB to change out of an obvious bad call for the situation. Hmmmmm.

    Troll away, moron. No one can be this f***ing stupid intentionally.

  82. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yes, you are wrong. Answer thwe question. Why did ALex Smith have so many problems geting plays off in time?

  83. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Actually this has been analyzed and you won’t be so thrilled with the conclusion so I’m sure another torrent of lies is forthcoming. Cohn raises a few good valid points but in general he’s a shit disturber.



  84. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I haven’t seen those comments by Alex Smith.
    Why don’t you provide the links?

  85. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Funny, Bullit, both those articles state exactly what I’ve been saying. Thanks.

  86. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    As insane as it may seem to you people can read.
    You ought to stop emulating Rand Paul and plagiarizing Berger.
    You sound like a parrot.
    Sorry I don’t have a cracker.

  87. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Read that first sentence again, skippy. I’m not as say as you think I what?

    YOU posted the articles that support my side of the argument and I’m the plagarizer? You can’t even understand that those support my side of the deal. Doh!!!!!

    Your deflector shields are failing yet again, skippy.

    To quote:

    It’s not all on Kap

    One key to the problem is actually something the 49ers have received a lot of praise for this season: their unique formational constructs. There are so many moving parts and so much pre-snap motioning that it sometimes takes as many as 10 seconds to get all the players in their correct positions. What’s more, there appeared to be very little urgency getting back to the huddle on the plays where the 49ers called timeout. Once there, the play took several seconds to be called, and the quarterbacks had an average of about 10 seconds to snap the ball once the line of scrimmage was set. That may be plenty of time for a normal team, but not nearly enough for an offense as complex as the 49ers’.

    From L Cohn:

    I’m saying the 49ers coaches need to teach Kaepernick better. They chose him over Smith. Sure. OK. Now, teach him. Teach him to read defenses better. Teach him to think faster when the clock is winding down. And teach him correct footwork.

    Yes, Kappy has more TOs than Smith. But Smith has a little more experience, eh? It took him 6 years to get to the point (in our offense) where he still had to call timeouts, and take delay of game penalties much moe than most other QBs. What does that tell you?

    And, again, thanks.

  88. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd as usual, Fumbduck never answers my question. He posts shit that supports my side and now will start talking about Crabs and my 5 year old posts.

    Carry on, McDuff…

  89. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. This is sensationally boring. I’m beginning to think Jane really is an ignorant slut.

  90. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, well some people won’t listen to reason unless you beat them about the head and shoulders repeatedly with it over and over until it sinks in to their tiny closed minds.

  91. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    This confab is over for mew unless something new comes up. I will sum it up for those who don’t want to read it all.

    Bullit says if Kap doesn’t improve we are screwed. That is his point and solution.

    NJ is helping him row his boat letting us know Kap needs to improve. As is that is not true for any other QB.

    I say Kap needs to improve, just like any other QB and that his coaches need to call better plays to help accelerate that effort.

    Chuck is enjoying the fact that Bullit is in a row boat lagging behind.

    Grumpy made some popcorn.

    Del isn’t happy that Bullit plagiarized him by saying we’re screwed.

    Skeebers is trying to find Spitblood’s email address so we can name this debate!

    One more thing I’ll add. The coaches could do one more thing that we haven’t covered. That is to work on Kaps mechanics. That is so coaching it is worrying me. His mechanics were fantasrtic last year, what happened? Can anybody say “Tom House” in the off season?

  92. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    This is some funny! 49er fans purchased a billboard in Seattle. It doesn’t help our cause but after the Seattle fans bought a brick in our new stadium and flew a banner over the parking lot last week, this is good.


  93. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Quick, Skeebers, bitchslap Jane silly.

    Jane is sad.

    See Jane cry.


    See Jane cry.

    Too bad, Jane.

    Screw you and the horse you rode in on, Jane.

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Tom House would be my choice also for biomechanics and a cerebral approach.
    Alternative would be Steve Clarkson

  95. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Whitner says he wants to be here next year so maybe he signs for
    a hometown discount with the condition he keeps the W in his last name.

    If you’re looking for a gift for a Niner fan this would be it.
    I have it and it’s magnifico. It’s selling at Costco for $22

  96. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “49ers have 204 regular season wins at Candlestick Park, most by a team in its home stadium in NFL history.”

  97. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    More than the packers?jHuh….

  98. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- I thought the same thing.

  99. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shit, even Soldier field in Chicago has been around a while. But they sucked for long stretches of time.

  100. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I gave Alex the benefit of the doubt for several years due to all of the HC and OC changes that he endured.

    His accuracy issues and, his constant check downs, never really changed over time for the better.

    My point with Jo Lon Dunbar had more to do with the moment at which Kaep got his shot, as I compared it to NYJ LB Mo Lewis taking out Bledsoe, which ushered in the Tom Brady era.

    Perhaps we’ll see the same transition between Alex and Kaep due to the Dunbar factor.
    It had absolutely nothing to do with me enjoying an injury to Alex.

  101. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And, you suggest that I don’t have a valid point regarding his pocket awareness etc needing to improve, then turn around and make my point that he’s only had 21 starts.

    Which is it?
    He’s in my row boat learning these things or, he should be in your speed boat already?

    Your debate is with the Roman/Harbaugh Offense.
    I accept that Kaep is learning their system and, is experiencing his growing pains.

    I’m patiently rowing, you’re already expecting him to be in your speed boat making the turn at the 3rd pole, heading for the home stretch.
    Which is it?

    Work on his deficiencies and continue to develop Kaep or, scrap Roman and the SCO?

  102. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

  103. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- You need to find a middle point. You’re being too extreme trying to explain my view. Any young QB has to ramp up faster than an old veteran. Kap is still a young QB. He is probably getting great QB coaching from Harbaugh but the offense he has to run is not an offense that does Kap him any favors. It is very plain to see how much better Kap has looked in the last 4 games with better play calling. I think Kap is progressing just fine. He is already in my speed boat.

    As far as Alex is concerned, I do not think he had accuracy issues. He was/is one of the more accurate passers in the NFL. Not sure what you are pulling that info from. And as far as check downs, he would have led the league in YPA last year if he had a few more attempts to qualify. Your Alex comments show impatience with him even as he is gone. I have no problem with you not liking Alex, my problem is when you say you are patient when you aren’t.

  104. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, with more competent wide recievers comes more innovative play calling one would think. And according to Matt Maiocco, they installed 30 new plays last week. Which had something to do with the fact that there was some confusion on how to line up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
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2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17