49er 2015 Draft Recap

The results are in and we now know the names of the ten players who will waste their first year in the NFL learning schemes and systems from lousy coaches who will be fired in a year or two. Enjoy the ride, fellas.

First round pick Arik Armstead, a 4-technique DE from Oregon, is described as a “project.” I.E., he’ll be no help this year. Or maybe even next year. This pick is obviously meant to replace Ray McDonald, whom Baalke heaved out the door last year for appearing to be a bad guy, even though it turned out he wasn’t.

The second round pick was Jaquiski Tartt, the third highly drafted safety by Trent Baalke in the past three years. Jaquiski is also a guy who will be no help this year, except on Special Teams. Picking another safety here clearly indicates at least one of the previously drafted safeties is looking like a bust (Hint: Jimmie “Burnt” Ward).

Third round pick OLB Eli Harold probably means the team can go ahead and cut or trade overpaid malcontent Ahmad Brooks. Harold might not see much action this year, either, except on Special Teams, unless last year’s surprise contributor Aaron Lynch has a sophomore slump or Aldon Smith has a career ending relapse.

If you’re following along this far, you’ll note that none of these picks is likely to be relevant in 2015, barring a rash of injuries like we had last year. It might occur to HC Jim Tomsula that Baalke isn’t real concerned for his welfare, just as it no doubt occurred to former HC Jim Harbaugh — although it certainly hasn’t dented the cranial wasteland of smug dimwit owner Jed York — yet. Many NFL types think Tomsula will be a one and done coach, anyway, and Tomsula might be starting to agree with them. Privately, of course. Publicly, he’ll be grinning like an idiot and praising everyone, just like the professional brown-noser he is.

None of the picks in the 4-7 rounds will be getting any playing time this year, either, except possibly for 4th round RB Mike Davis if his pass blocking is cleared for duty by RB coach Tom Rathman. Or 5th round punter(!?!?) Bradley Pinion, if the team jettisons the more expensive current long time punter Andy Lee. But, what the hell, Baalke has to keep re-stocking the practice squad in case any of them ever actually develop into decent players.

No inside linebackers, wide receivers, or cornerbacks were picked. This leaves the secondary precariously prone to some serious beat downs, and career backup ILB Michael Wilhoite once again in the starting lineup, alongside the torn up knee of Navorro Bowman. The depth behind them is entirely un-noteworthy. Somewhere in Seattle, Marshawn Lynch is grinning from earhole to earhole. With new teammate TE Jimmy Graham doing a bit of a dunk-itty-dunk do-si-do right along with him.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2015 San Francisco 49ers. Read it and weep.

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  1. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Definitely feels like a total rebuild at this time, looks like udfa’s will be very important this year. The only WTF moment for me was the #5 pick. I don’t get it. Anyway, maybe we’ll get lucky on the injury front this year cause it looks like the the only real depth is S, RB and TE. I think our Dline will be fine too.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Stanford ILB AJ Tarpley is signing with Buffalo

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Using a 5th rd pick on an average punter is curious.
    You have to wonder what Andy Lee did to deserve this?
    Lee had still been punting at a high level.
    This rookie punter does not hold for placekicks.
    This is a headshaker that is not good for morale.

  4. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Actually, we did draft a WR – Smelter in the 4th. But he is coming off an ACL tear so, yeah, he probably won’t do anything this year, if at all.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Two more UFA signings

    Patrick Miller OT Auburn
    Dres Anderson WR Utah Speed WR who was hurt most of 2014

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke sayd Blake Bell will be the emergency QB

    Dres Anderson is the son of WR “Flipper” Anderson Ex Ram and UCLA

  7. BigJimSladeNo Gravatar says:

    Would you so-called “faithful” fans be proud of being faithful to a child molester? I mean, would you bring him magazines and cigarettes for his lifetime stay in the big house and feel good about being faithful to a child molester? “Faithfully behind ya, buddy. Forget what you did. I’m here for ya.”

    I wonder how many wins Jim Harbaugh is going to have over the next ten years? You guys can feel good about being faithful to the child molester, Jed York, who, despite heavy UncaChuck denial, just repeatedly molested the 49ers month after month until this team became so psychologically abused nobody’s gonna function. I’ll move on and love me some Harbaugh football. Some real football. And when our paths cross one day and you’re old and miserable, watching molested Jed York football, you can say to me, “Hey, at least I was faithful.” Congratulations on that, buddy. But I’m sorry you had to be subject to such terrible football all those years.

  8. winderNo Gravatar says:

    It’s kinda funny how all the “experts” react to the picks. For every one they get right usually 4-5 never pan out. Take last years Zac Stacy, he was gonna be somebody and look, they traded him for a 7th rd pick. I never heard of any of our picks except #1, but that really doesn’t mean anything. But, for sure this is a wait and see draft.

  9. winderNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- The #5 pick is probably about money. But to waste a 5th rd pick is stupid.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    so now they have reached agreement with 6 undrafted FA per Maiocco with some commentaey

    Here is the complete list of the 49ers’ reported signings of undrafted free agents:

    QB Dylan Thompson, South Carolina

    OLB Marcus Rush, Michigan State
    Rush (6-2, 247), a three-year starter at defensive end,mwas named honorable mention All-Big Ten honors for the third-straight season. Rush has 25 tackles, including 7.5 for losses and a career-high five sacks. He was not invited to the combine. At his pro day, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.68 and had 24 reps in the bench press. Rush reported on Twitter his decision to sign with the 49ers.

    OL Patrick Miller, Auburn
    Miller (6-7, 292) declared for the draft after his junior season but was not chosen. He played in eight games with six starts at right offensive tackle (The Montgomery Advertiser).

    WR Dres Anderson, Utah
    Anderson (6-1, 187) is the son of 10-year NFL veteran receiver Willie “Flipper” Anderson. He led the Utes this season with 355 receiving yards and four touchdowns, averaging 16.1 yards per catch. He finished his college career with 2,077 career receiving yards, ranking fifth-best in school history (The Salt Lake Tribune).

    WR Issac Blakeney, Duke Blakeney (6-4, 223) began his college career as a safety. He caught 47 passes for 559 yards and seven touchdowns in his final college season. He has the ability to put on some weight and also convert to tight end. The 49ers have eight tight ends, so he’s likely to stay at wide receiver (Duke sports information).

    WR Darius Davis, Henderson State
    Davis (5-11, 219) is Henderson’s all-time career receiving leader with 2,425 yards and 26 touchdowns. A source confirmed to CSNBayArea.com he agreed to terms with the 49ers.

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Now you are being stupid with the name calling.
    Stop acting like Chuckles with the hyperbole.
    Jed might be called a lot of things but you cross the line.

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Seahags signed Nate Boyer as a Undrafted FA.
    Longshot to make it as a deepsnapper but at least he’s being provided the NFL experience and a good reward for his service to the US serving in Afghanistan in Special Forces.
    Class move by Petey.

  13. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I aced my mock draft by calling for Mike Davis or Malcolm Brown RB (Texas). Following Waldman who also liked Blake Bell. Didn’t pick him BUT I got 100% correct with the M Davis call. Ok true that was my only call but still 100 PER CENT.

    I am a draft guru with exceptional insight and judgment. Deal with it.

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Yeah get on the next plane and offer your services to Baalke.

    They are charging $90/$100 HD for the fight tonight

  15. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I did offer my services to the Balkey one but he said Spit beat me to it, waaaah.

    Yeah Go Manny. I’ll have to watch a replay as the budget needs the Balkey bucks to afford even PPV.

    Heard fight has delay due to overloaded demand on the cable companies. Biggest grossing fight EVER. $180M/$120M Mayweather/PacMan

  16. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit the point I attempted to make on the previous thread regarding the Punter was this.
    I assume they missed a guy they expected to see there?

    They had Pinion valued as a 5th RD Pick over other positions.
    Head scratcher for me as well.
    Since I never ‘Scout’ punters, I’m at a loss for what they see with him over others at the position.

    All I could find is a pretty impressive stat about the few touchbacks he produced.

    He apparently will provide some competition if nothing else.
    Appears he has decent kickoff experience as well.

    I’d have looked for other options in RD5 as well.

    I do like the UDFA signing of SCAR QB Dylan Thompson however.
    Pro-style Offense and decent production from him.

  17. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    From what I gather Balkeys draft this year is to replace expiring contracted players in future years. Punter. DE. OLB. SS. These guys to step in 2016 season. Future value at less cost. Makes sense.

  18. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    TE Blake Bell is a QB conversion guy as well.
    Good athlete, good size as well.

    After this weekends’ Draft outcome, I’m thinking Baalke feels comfortable with the OL?
    Granted, we have several young guys from last year’s group but, I’d have preferred to see a higher selection at OT.

    Again, I’ll give this Draft a ‘C’.

    I’ll wait and see what happens with Armstead. Wasn’t impressed with his stats in College.
    Guessing the basketball commitment explains the weak football numbers.

  19. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Phil, it’s a business after all.

    It’s always about preparing for the future with the Draft.
    Only Pick that truly surprised me was Tartt in RD2.
    He could fill in for Bethea down the road.
    Good coverage skills for a S IMO.

    I like the kid however.
    Just thought he’d have survived until RD3 or 4.
    Obviously they felt he had value there.
    Again, with all the guys they brought aboard, I hope they all make the cut.

    See where it goes…

  20. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Tartt supposed to be our answer to TE Graham I heard. Gotta hope that works!

  21. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I was actually looking for Byron Jones in that matchup Phil.
    But yes, Tartt covers well for a SS.
    Brings the ‘thump’ in run support too.

    Hoping for early production from him.

  22. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Pacquiao fight over- awaiting results. Close fight favors Mayweather. Very evenly matched

  23. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    We’re building (rebuilding) for the future here unlike last years draft. Unfortunately in 2014 York already pulled the plug on our team by draft time so players slowly gave up and injuries mounted. 8-8 the result.

    A house divided cannot stand. Myself I see any locker room split as a result of Yorks trade attempt and players lining up with whomever. History. We’ll see if the rah-rah HC, his staff and this group of developmental players will be enough to win more than 7 this season.

  24. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Exactamundo Phil.
    My favorite term…Dysfunctional.

    We had a good run with Jim 1.
    Jim 2 has huge shoes to fill.

    A bit of a good review for our Pick of Smelter.

    Best pick (Day 3)
    DeAndre Smelter, WR, drafted 132nd overall by the San Francisco 49ers and Marcus Hardison, DE, drafted 135th overall by the Cincinnati Bengals (tie). Sometimes, teams have to take a chance on a player’s upside — by drafting him two rounds early. That was the case with Smelter, who injured his ACL in December. The Niners have Anquan Boldin and Torrey Smith, meaning they don’t need Smelter right away. To paraphrase Bill Walsh, If he helps your football team, it doesn’t matter (if you take him early).
    Of course, the club took that approach with running back Marcus Lattimore two years ago, and it didn’t work out. Still, I like the upside with Smelter.

  25. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – Good link for UDFA activity if you’re interested –


    I’m a bit pissed that OG Quinton Spain from WVU wasn’t an option for us.
    He and DT Derrick Lott landed in TN.
    I guess Baalke liked Trenton Brown for the ‘One Man Mountain’ position.

  26. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Smelter was on a lot of draft boards as possibility for us. Yep stash him for a year on IR and see what he can give us. With current crop of WRs incl. Ellington and Patton we need to see what this coaching staff can do with these earlier investments. Torrey Smith should answer the question ‘Who is going to take the top off the Ds?” Simpson can fill that role too.

    While I’m not Expecting more than 7 wins I’m willing to wait and see rather than a bunch of blanket statements of ‘waht will happen’. News Flash = NObody Knows just yet. Not saying we should be brimming with confidence either.

    We’ll see won’t we?

  27. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Titans did well
    On that lis is Josue Matias, G, Florida State
    Some had him as a 3rd-4th rd pick

    Back to the punter. If he was booming to a 50 yd average I would consider taking him in 5th rd. He had a career average of 41 yds
    which is quite ordinary We’ll see. Only kicker or punter taken.

    In college they make kickers and punter walk on and in the NFL 90% are now undrafted.

    I wonder if our most exciting rookie Jarryd Hayne (still) can punt.
    After all he is a rugby player.

  28. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Curious to see how/if we use DE Marcus Rush as an ILB?
    Seems a bit too small to be a legit option at DE in the NFL.

    Long shot I’d imagine?

  29. BigJimSladeNo Gravatar says:

    Phil – I never offered my services to Baalke unless you mean servicing his daughter, which I’d do…. for Greg Roman. It’d be a grudge service… but it’d be full service.

  30. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I’m thinking Hayne may be the KR option?

    We didn’t nab anyone in terms of a Draftee with KR ability.
    Saw Diggs as a potential fit there, along with several others.

    The only saving grace I can take from Pinion is his touch-back average.
    Still wonder about valuing him in the 5th RD.
    Those guys go RD7 IMO.

  31. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    UDFA WR DeAndrew White from ‘Bama has a loose reference to KR ability as a way to make a roster.
    Seems he’s a speedster with good COD skills.


  32. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s the overall 9er team Draft link, with the associated bio’s from NFL.


    Each guy’s name is an active link to the Bio info.
    See who pans out….

  33. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks for clearing that up Spit. I thought Balkeys answer was a little squirrely. Ok so that slot is filled, got it.

  34. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Argubly Todd Gurley is considered the best running back to hit the draft since Adrian Peterson.
    Apparently his ACl checked out medically and he’ll be available for the Rams training camp.
    If healthy Gurley elevates the Rams to contender status and makes them a scary team.

    GMs got gun shy drafting RBs because Trent Richardson was a bust.
    The trend is swinging back to running the ball. Denver is going run heavy to save some wear and tear on Manning. The Bolts moved up to take Gordon and diversify their running game.
    The Niners will have to contend with both Lynch and Gurley at least 4 times a year.
    I still believe in the axiom that a good running game is a young QBs best friend. Play action in a WCO is deadly is you can sell the run.
    Running the ball may not be stylistically flashy enough for the fantasy football guys but it wins games.

    Last year getting away from the running game cost the Ninerssome wins and led to the 8-8 record.

  35. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke gives himself an A+ for this draft.

  36. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So one of the lesser apologists came out this morning in full fanboy mode defending Kap.
    Citing that Kap’s has won more playoff games on the road than Montana, Young and Brodie (ALEX Smith was included but he never started a playoff game on the road). Of the playoff games Kap has started I can say the Green Bay game when he ran wild is the only gam HE won. In these other games Kap just happened to be the QB. Conveniently forgotten is the fact that Kap is the only 49er QB to los a Super Bowl. These stats are as meaningless as stating that Tomsula is 1-0 and has the greatest winning percentage of any Niner coach. If you have truly cherry pick stats like this to make a point then you are
    already in a weak position and letting your fanboy fanaticism get the best of you.

    When you are blinded and insist on blaming Kap’s faults and inadequecies on others then you are in complete absolute denial. Guess what the coaches that you blamed are gone, Gore is gone, Iupati’s subpar pass blocking, Crabtree’s drops, so Kap has no cover this year unless you expand and continue this blaming nonsense..
    The success of the Niners will rely more on Kap than ever.
    Let’s see if he’s up to the task.

  37. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners saw 25 WRs drafted before they chose Deandre Smelter.
    Smelter has 11 inch hands which most likely rival Ex_Niners Gary “Big Hands” Johnson and TE Charle Young who was described as having a pair of meat hooks.

  38. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The fact that Miami drafted Devante parker one spot in front of the Niners bothers me. I wonder if there was any effort to move up two spots when Parker was still on the board.
    Let’s see how Parker’s career and Armstead’s career goes.
    I happen to think Parker was worth moving up 2 spots for.
    One of the picks would have saved us from picking a punter.
    Baalke signed 4 more WRs after the draft so that should tell you it’s a priority. Banking on longshot FAs is not ideal.

  39. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Mark Sanchez has 4 road playoff wins. As you suggest, Bullit, a pretty meaningless stat, especially if it’s the only one supporting a claim of greatness.

  40. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Nioers in the Walsh-Seifert era were so dominant in the regular season that they played over 75% of playoff games at home.
    Just not buying what they are trying to seel especially pulling weird stats out of their butts.
    What is funny is this has become one of the their talking oints and they are all repeating and using it for justification.

    This year Kap has no where to hide except to excel and play at a higher level. All QBs make mistakes and errors. What distinguishes a successful QB from a perennial loser is how you perform in crunch time.
    If you can perform at a high level and avoid mistakes when your team needs you the most with the game on the line, that makes you a Qb to be feared.
    Alex Smith did it in the Saints playoff game. Incredibly he marched the team twice for scores and won the game in one of greatest finishes in Niner history.
    Kap failed miserably in the Super Bowl and against the Sehags in the NFCCG.
    If it’s a blowout then you can blame it on gameplans and scheme and the coaches. In close games the coaches have put you in a position to when, then it’s up to players to execute.

    In the Super Bowl and the NFCCG the Niners were at the goal line at the end of the game. The players couldn’t execute and finish the game. That is what the apologists seem to always miss.

  41. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    position to WIN not when.

  42. BigJimSladeNo Gravatar says:

    I watched on this blog when people were blaming Kaep and picking apart his game last year and I understand it, but I think it’s futile. The quarterback position is both in the constant spotlight, and also the most complex position in the game – meaning it takes much longer for a quarterback to fully develop than any other position in football.

    I understand this blog was an Alex Smith blog, and the minute Kaep inevitably wavered, Alex Smith fans jumped Kaep and said, “AH HA!!! He’s not the answer.” But Kaep’s both still developing and certainly now up against it with this current clown show that will no doubt embed itself into 49er culture.

    Look at Drew Brees the last couple of years. We all know Drew Brees is great. But the New Orleans’ offensive line has been terrible, and in decline over the last few years. In their prime, New Orleans had J. Evans and a guy I wanted the 49ers to pick, Carl Nicks, at their guard positions. Nicks moved on and New Orleans replaced him with Grubbs, and now Grubbs has moved on, and Evans hasn’t been the same for a few years, but the point is that Drew Brees’ success is and always has been strongly tied to the players around him. This year the Saints drafted a Stanford tackle with their first pick. The point is that even though we all know Brees is great, his success is dependent on the other players on the team – even defensive players.

    I’m not a Kaep apologist because I’m not even a 49er fan anymore – Go Chargers! Go Michigan! Go Bears! Go Seattle! — but the 49ers were supremely injured last year with the 49ers’ best linemen, Anthony Davis (and highest paid), injured most of the year and being replaced by Jonathan Martin who’s been recently jettisoned for, what I’d call, incompetence. Defenders crashing through the right side of the 49er line gave Kaep happy feet last year, and I don’t blame him (not with the deal Kaep signed).

    When assessing a qb, ask yourself four things: Does the qb have a line, a running back, a defense and a smart offensive coordinator? In 2015 the answers are maybe, no, maybe and no. So how is anyone going to fairly assess Colin Kaepernick in 2015? I mean, no doubt you all will assess Kaep however you’d like, with, in some cases ridiculous criteria, but if you want to be fair (fairness and deserve, btw, have nothing to do with it), look at the team around Kaep and look at how young Kaep still is…. AND compare him to Andy Dalton and Cam Newton – both guys who were in Kaep’s same draft class, and btw, my writing is becoming a lot like Faulkner’s writing in that there’s never a stop, I mean it’s really aggravating that I don’t observe normal sentence boundaries, but boundaries are for the weak and feeble. Poor Kaep. If I was Kaep, I’d fire footballs at my wide receivers and not worry about the results. Let it rip. This team is gonna quit week 3, anyway. Go Michigan!

  43. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Draft pick Deandre Smelter is a smart guy


  44. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Entering his 5th year in the league and turning 28 in Nov
    Kap is not young and is not inexperienced. That ship sailed 2 years ago. That bullshit excuse is unacceptable.

  45. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Same old excuses used for Alex Smith, just recycled for Kaepernick or whichever QB one wants to defend. They won’t be let go for him either. Just different names on the everyone-everything-but-“fill in the name” list of reasons for failure.

    It’s funny to see how clearly some see Kaepernick’s weaknesses but couldn’t allow a single criticism of Alex Smith to go unchallenged and unexcused for doing some of the same things.

  46. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Some”? Hahaha. Whomever could you mean? Hmmmmm.

  47. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, no point in making it personal. Hahaha. There were/are plenty of folks in that camp.

    Smith had problems not of his own making and so does Kaepernick but no QB has all the support he needs from all quarters. It’s what they can do about it that makes them great or so-so.

  48. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Well, I don’t want to offend Grumpy, but it would be nice if we all kept the personal insults to a minimum. Except for Chuck, of course. It’s his function in life to be an insult and to take it in return.

  49. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Nofear- I believe I understand the point your making, but I gotta say the excuses for A. Smith in no way mirror the problems Kappy had in the last year. In fact there should be no comparison between the two at all since Smith shouldn’t even be able to carry Kappy’s jock.

  50. FranchiseNo Gravatar says:

    The best player in this draft is going to be Tartt. Reminds me of a young Dashon Goldson.

    That’s the good news.

    The bad news is that not a single fan is going to purchase a player jersey with the name ‘Tartt’ on the back. Unless you are genuinely a tart, then it’s apropos.

    Another enigma – the spelling of his first name is ‘Jaquiski’ but pronounced ‘Jaquaski’. Sort of like ‘Favre’ vs. ‘Farve’.

    Don’t let the name fool you – if he gets the mangini playbook, he will be something special… in 2016.

  51. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The one thing I loathe is misinformation.
    I just read one of the lesser apologists state that Pinion was the highest rated punter in the draft. I cannot even find anything close to justify that statement.

    CBS Sportsline has him rated #11 of all draftable punters

    I looked up if he was a finalist for the Ray Guy Award (best punter in college) Pinion wasn’t a semi finalist even.
    These are the semi-finalists with the guy from Utah winning the award
    2014 Ray Guy Award Semifinalists
    • JK Scott (Fr.), Alabama
    • Scott Arellano (Sr.), BYU
    • Scott Harding (Sr.), Hawaii
    • Austin Rehkow (So.), Idaho
    • Justin Vogel (So.), Miami
    • Tyler Wedel (Sr.), Northern Illinois
    • Cameron Johnston (So.), Ohio State
    • Drew Kaser (Jr.), Texas A&M
    • Tom Hackett (Jr.), Utah
    • Alex Kinal (Jr.), Wake Forest


    Not that big of a deal.
    In the scheme of things it doesn’t matter. I would just hate a bona fide 49er fan to repeat this misinformation to a Raiduh fan in a discussion , be called on it and look like a fool when he can’t prove it.
    IMO it’s a curious if not crappy waste of a 5th rd pick.
    Maybe he’s #1 on Deion Sanders list of punters.

  52. BigJimSladeNo Gravatar says:

    No Fear – I don’t want to be a contrarian, but when you say, “No quarterback has all the support he needs from all quarters,” I’ve got two words for you – Russell Wilson. In my opinion Lynch is the best RB in the league. Forget the fantasy stats that skew perception. What about a great line? Yes, check. It might not be the ’93 Cowboys’ O line, but Seattle’s O line is damn good. What about a defense? Awesome defense during Wilson’s entire career. What about a great O coordinator who blends read option with conventional play action, power run plays and Wilson deep balls at appropriate times? Yes, they have that. Check. Frankly, I don’t understand why Darrell Bevell hasn’t been offered a coaching job. He’d be an infinitely better choice than Jim Tomsula, but I digress. And what about the fan base supporting Wilson? They love him. Nobody is claiming Wilson isn’t Joe Montana. I played golf the other day with a dude from Washington who said, “All of Washington is just happy to have a great team.” Wilson jerseys were and have been the number one selling jersey in football for the past two years. The only weakness you could claim Wilson has in his supporting cast is his receivers, but he’s had some talented receivers in Percy Harvin, TE Miller, Sydney Rice, Lockett, Kearse, Baldwin and now Richardson. And let’s not forget the home field advantage and the 12th man.

    I read somewhere that a new stadium is proven to never be a home field advantage for several years. Kaep last year had an injured offensive line, a new stadium, an older running back, and two new receivers in Lloyd (washed up), and Stevie (overrated), and Vernon Davis was a walking holdout, not trying because he wasn’t paid after his holdout. And at first I had a problem with Greg Roman, but after a while I started to see bigger problems with the team (Baalke’s drafting) that Roman had no control over, but a lot of people, including Baalke’s daughter (that I’d like to date if anyone has her number) didn’t like Roman. I think if you’re going to evaluate a young qb, it’s obvious you need to consider the supporting cast. If you compare Kaep to Russell Wilson, for a while the support was the same, but last year the structure around Kaep fell off while the structure around Wilson only got stronger.

    And I don’t buy the argument at all that Wilson made his supporting cast. I honestly believe Russell Wilson is a very average qb with the best supporting cast maybe ever in the NFL. You take away that D and Lynch and Russell starts looking very average, trust me.

  53. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    49ers.com has a profile the the 5th rd draft pick

    Bradley Pinion, P, Clemson – 165th overall pick

    San Francisco spent its only fifth round pick on punter Bradley Pinion out of Clemson.

    Pinion declared early for the NFL Draft, deciding to forgo his senior season as a Tiger. He averaged 42.6 yards per punt in 2014, good enough for fifth-best in the ACC. Pinion also landed 28 punts inside the opponent’s 20-yard line, a number that led the ACC and broke his own school record. His 17 punts of 50-plus yards were tied for third-most in the conference.

    Here is his scouting report courtesy of CBSSports.com.

    “Pinion, who played as a first-year freshman in 2012, served as Clemson’s punter and handled kickoffs each of the last two seasons and was a big reason the Tigers were strong on special teams during that time. Clemson had a 21-5 record the last two years, including a 10-3 mark in 2014.”

    On his conference call, Pinion called himself a punter and a kickoff specialist. He once wowed everyone in attendance at the Southern Showcase with a 100-yard kickoff.

    At 6-foot-5 294-pounds, you’d be hard pressed to find a bigger punter in the NFL.


    Must be a misprint. A 6’5″ 294 lb punter? Kicked a ball 100 yds
    on a kickoff?

    If he is this big we have Sebas Jr.

    Will not judge him until he outkicks (punts) Lee

  54. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Off topic but a lot of you will be happy to hear this news has leaked out as the Ws beat Memphis today.

    Steph Curry is the NBA MVP


  55. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit there has been much discussion surrounding Pinion.
    All I can say is this.
    We Drafted Andy Lee in RD6.
    If Pinion can challenge Andy for the punting (and Kickoffs), a RD5 selection will be well worth it.

    I challenged the thinking of a Punter being more valued than other areas of need at the time but, I’ve also come to the realization, that Andy Lee is getting up there, in terms of age.

    If the Scouting Staff, and Baalke, felt it was time to think toward the future at the Punter position, so be it.

    Like Armstead, I’ll give them their collective due, to see what they can offer in terms of competition and roster improvements.

  56. BigJimSladeNo Gravatar says:

    And one other thing, while I’m layin’ down some serious knowledge… the supporting cast around Russell Wilson that is making Russel Wilson a star is two things: Excellent coaching and good drafting. I have a ton of respect for Pete Carroll. Amazing coach and a smart man. What he’s done to create a supporting cast around Russell Wilson maybe the single greatest coaching job to create an NFL star, ever. But Jim Harbaugh was doing the exact same thing for Colin Kaepernick – great running game, great defense, offensive weapons in Delanie Walker, Randy Moss, Vernon Davis, Crabtree in his prime pre injury. Maybe the best offensive line in all football in 2012 and 2013…

    But I think Jim Harbaugh and Trent Baalke had serious philosophical differences underscored by the comments Matt Miaocco deemed “uncomfortable” when Harbaugh said to his team, after the loss to the Seahawks in the NFC Championship game, “I WANT TO COMPETE AGAIN FOR A SUPERBOWL NEXT YEAR WITH THIS EXACT SAME TEAM. I DON’T CARE WHAT THE FRONT OFFICE SAYS.” But I think there was more than just a divide between Harbaugh and Baalke philosophically. I don’t believe Harbaugh saw Baalke as a great talent evaluator. Who know how much say Baalke had on draft day? I think Fangio was more responsible for finding Dial than anyone else. I think Mike Solari helped draft O linemen like Kilgore. I think Harbaugh selected Kaep and maybe Eric Reid. It’s clear Harbaugh didn’t see eye-to-eye with Baalke philosophically, but I don’t think Harbaugh appreciated Baalke’s football acumen regarding the acquisition of talent as well, and I think this may very well have created an internal power struggle that both camps, Harbaugh in one and Baalke and York in the other, aren’t talking about. I think despite John Madden saying correctly, “It’s easier to find a suit,” Jed York found it easier to work with Trent Baalke than it was to work with Harbaugh, and as Harbaugh pushed to have Baalke removed, Jed York went to Deion Sanders at the NFL Network and planted a story that Jim Harbaugh had lost the locker room. This story did two things: it took the focus off the fact that there were several players on the team when Harbaugh was the coach who weren’t happy with their pay (Boone, Vernon and other that Vernon mentioned who weren’t speaking up but never-the-less were disgruntled), and it also took the spotlight off the fight between Baalke and Harbaugh that ultimately saw Jed York make a terribly incorrect pick, choosing Baalke over Harbaugh – a choice that will haunt 49er fans for years. We know Deion’s words were a scam because no current or past player has had negative things to say about Harbaugh, and during the season all players came out supported Harbaugh.

    But I don’t blame Harbaugh for leaving, regardless if he was fired or how that all went down. If you don’t have a talent evaluator resupplying your team with new, yearly bullets, you’re not going to be as effective as a head coach. Brother John Harbaugh has one of the best GMs in the game (Ray Rice debacle aside) in the Oz Man Cometh, Ozzie Newsome. Belichick’s his own GM. The Packers have a good GM in Thompson. Just like the qb being dependent on the supporting cast around him, the head coach’s future and eventual success is strongly tied to the GM’s ability to find talent, and I know (not think, but know) that Trent Baalke is a terrible talent evaluator. You’ll see. I’d want out too if my star was only allowed to shine as bright as Trent Baalke’s NFL draft picks. I do believe there was an internal struggle between Baalke and Harbaugh with Jed York picking Baalke only because Baalke’s a yes man and Jed York is about as insecure as they come.

  57. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Andy Lee is 32 years old which is about 4 years older than Kap.
    Andy Lee makes $2.1 mil a year as the punter
    Baalke chose to retain Gabbert and sign him for $2 mil a year for 2 years but he is too inept to be put into a game that hasn’t been decided.

    I said a few months ago that the true indicator if the team was reloading or rebuilding is how Andy Lee and Phil Dawson are treated. If they are replaced by cheaper option than the team is definitely rebuilding.
    I only say this because Baalke keeps getting in front of the camera and insisting it’s a reload and the Niners will have the best players in place to compete for a Lombardi.

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Good points Bullit.
    For me, it’s always about competition in this arena.
    No beef whatsoever with Andy.
    Solid performer.

    We’re now seeing some noise being created by Boone and Vernon regarding extensions.
    Kaep is paid. Now we have to think about Aldon and whether Boone and Vernon are worth being retained.

    Whether Baalke is driving the finances or not is all speculative.
    Paraag handles the Contracts and Cap Mgt as I perceive it.

    Rebuild or reload, it’s always about improvement through youth in this game.
    Pinion, like all the Rookies, needs development.
    Being placed alongside Andy will provide the competition to improve.
    That’s one reason I like the Smelter Pick this year.
    He may, or may not be ready to add anything to the roster this year but, he’s going to have benefit of working with Anquan in the weight room, film room and, practice field.

    One major hurdle for all these Rookies is the physical and mental demands the Pro game brings.
    It’s a completely different environment compared to the College game.
    More work, more demands on their time etc.
    Most College players hit the wall in the NFL around week 10.

    Most of them will benefit from a development year IMO,regardless of position.

  59. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If memory serves, Pittsburgh made a pretty substantial offer to Andy which we chose to match at the time.
    His salary is well deserved IMO, however, he’s getting a much higher average salary than most Punters in this game.

    Like any Rookie, there are always reasons for concern in terms of production and liabilities but, there’s also a major cost advantage that favors the Ownership, at least on the Rookie deals.
    If they feel Pinion can replace Andy, fine.
    Just don’t assume Pinion can do it until you afford him the chance to prove it.

    Baalke did say that this is Andy’s job, unless Pinion unseats him

  60. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    BJS there’s always a way to parse disagreements in this game.
    They exist here, and everywhere in life.
    It’s how you handle the differences, that either improve them or, make them worse.

    Whether Jim and Trent agreed, or disagreed, on specific players is speculative. I’m sure it goes on everywhere.
    Scouts and position Coaches lobby for their preferences all the time.
    The GM is the guy who ultimately settles the debates.

    I’ll contend that LMJ was a Harbaugh Pick, simply because of comments made, about how Jim hated to prepare for him while at Stanford.

    Bottom line, a GM and HC should find common ground on how they plan to construct a roster. Together.

    If that dynamic can’t be worked out, everything else is simply a recipe for disaster.

    I’ve read numerous pieces over the past couple of years that suggest players didn’t like some of the guidelines Harbaugh placed on them, Vets particularly.
    Dumb stuff like headphones etc.

    Boone squawked recently about being worked too hard as well.
    Read some noise involving Jim keeping them in Baltimore to practice against Brother John too.
    That sort of stuff, while seemingly insignificant, grates on guys.

    IMO, Jim didn’t like having to answer to Baalke. I may not like my Boss but, I’m not the Boss, so I do what’s expected of my job description to the best of my ability or, risk my livelihood.

    That’s life.

  61. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit here’s the link to the stats info you posted on Pinion –


  62. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like his weight from your piece was definitely inflated –

    “In regards to Pinion, the Clemson product might be one of the largest specialists in the NFL. He’s 6-foot-5, 229 pounds and gives San Francisco an option as a kickoff specialist and long-distance field goal kicker.”

  63. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In his tenure as GM Baalke has only drafted 2 QBs Kap and Daniels.
    He seems adverse to drafting this position.
    I thought it was critical to draft a QB this year whereas the GM didn’t.
    It appears Baalke thinks we are so deep at the QB position that he didn’t need to draft a QB.

  64. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hard to know at this point Bullit.
    Possible he’s giving Kaep some breathing room for now?
    New Contract and all?

    I would suggest this much.
    If Kaep doesn’t show marked improvement this year, a QB next year wouldn’t shock me.
    Not going to put too much stock into the UDFA deal signed yesterday by Dylan Thompson.

    I did hear on Baalke’s Media Draft Wrap Up session, how he values the So Carolina players, due to his previous working relationship with Steve Spurrier.
    To paraphrase, he felt Spurrier prepared his players for the Pro Offenses in multiple phases.

    Stay tuned I guess, and, hope Kaep’s work with Warner & Co pays some dividends this season.

  65. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As for Gabbert?
    He’s miles ahead of any Rookie we’d bring in from College at this point.
    Always a possibility to snag another Vet once Camp cuts occur I guess?

    We’re involved with a new Staff, new system and all at this point as well.
    Kaep and Gabbert will get acclimated as will Dylan at this point.
    Let’s hope someone can grasp it and run it well enough to be successful.

    Total unknown commodity to all of us right now.
    Hope for a solid ground game if nothing else?

  66. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    If Kap fails then it’s baalke’s head on the chopping block.

    Trent did absolutely nothing to prepare for that contingency.

  67. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    His preparation consists of Gabbert unfortunately.
    Let’s hope for the best from Kaep’s off season work in AZ.

    I can’t even guess where this Offense is going right now.
    Total adventure into the unknown.

  68. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m expecting something similar to what Matt Ryan is running in ATL, simply because of Steve Logans’ connection to him via BC.

    However, Geep is running the OC show.
    Who knows at this point, what flavor the Offense is expected to be?

    I’m hoping for something more inline with the WCO but…I’m not holding my breath.

  69. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Not even sure how similar, if at all, the Offense in ATL is, compared to what Logan and Ryan ran at BC.
    Don’t have much to go on with Logan right now.

    I had E Carolina QB Shane Carden on my Wish List, simply because of Logan’s connections there too.

    Logan and Chryst obviously have something drawn up.

    What it is?
    Who the eff knows at this point?

  70. FranchiseNo Gravatar says:

    So Trent sees ‘possibilities’ and not projects with these picks.

    Pinion could be the next Pat McInally. I’m dating myself here. Pat was a moose and could make it rain in Cincinnati. Worth a 5th round pick if it pays off.

    Still no answers for CB. Teams are going to go deep on us this season.

  71. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “49ers Bruce Miller charged with misdemeanor vandalism.”

    Is that an evil enough transgression to qualify for being cut?

  72. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    After all, he killed his girl friend’s phone.

  73. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Miller’s GF’s ringtone is some bad Seahawks rap, obviously.

    No doubt that cell phone violence is getting to be a huge problem in the NFL. Lucky for Bruce, Harbaugh’s not advocating for him to play through all this suspicion of domestic cell phone abuse.

    Hopefully, he won’t be ACCUSED of mishandling any communication devices again.

  74. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d like to see Miller punt a cell phone a hundred yards.

  75. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    That would have to be cleared with the 49er “class” police.

  76. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Jerome Simpson called Bruce Miller yesterday and thanked him for helping to “keep it real.”

  77. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Kiper and McShay both just said my new team, the Seattle Seahawks, had the best draft. Go Hawks!!!

  78. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I see the grab-ass is in full swing here.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  79. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I just added a box up on the right called “The Harbaugh Scoreboard” to keep track of the various rooting interests people might have this year. Should be fun.

  80. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Skeebers, maybe you could parenthetically cite the rooting interest next to the team name for those not as sharp as I am at remembering where everybody went.

    Hate to see some of the visitors from the Skeebers Report blog get more confused.

  81. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Good idea. Let me know if I missed anyone.

  82. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Good idea to put the upcoming records of teams our winning players and coaching staff members went to after the York flush job. Be interested to see how their new teams do esp. UM w/ the Hendrix show on board. BTW isn’t Johnny Morton there too as OC?

  83. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I think Drevno is the OC there, Phil, but will check further.

  84. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Receivers coach of the Saints. Good luck with that one, Sean.

  85. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks Skeebs, RT. Oh ok, Morton to the Saints, not that I’m a fan of Morton. Better by far Drevno is the OC for Jimi.

  86. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Phil – You might be missing the point. Morton and the Saints don’t carry enough relevance to really stick it to Chuck and NJ, and the blind followers of Jed York. But the inclusion of the Raiders on the tally is really, really low down and dirty – and I love it. When Seely and Crabtree have a better record than Tomsula and the rest of this 49er clown show come week 8, Chuck and NJ will have no where to hide. However, by then the feds will have arrested NJ for blogging without the manditory IQ of 60, and Chuck will have changed his tune, saying he loved Harbaugh and always thought Baalke was a bad GM. It’s hard enough to stick it to the blind followers of Jed when the Raiders beat the 49ers with overall record, but the Saints are like Chuck… kind of irrelevant.

  87. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Agree with the points Spit made about QBs and HCs needing good support around them to succeed. Russell Wilson and SEA are good examples for a QB.

    In our case my pick of Mike Davis RB should only make our run game stronger as he’s good, tough in many ways like Gore. Question is ‘Can we block for RBs w/o Iupati?’ This is about our OL which is a key point regarding QB success. Also can we pass block? On top of these questions we have new coaches on O (and everywhere else) led by Chryst who was largely invisible last couple years.

    We lack info and will only get it on the field I suppose.

    As far as needs for a HC to succeed the relationship with the FO/owner is obviously critical as we have seen. Hendrix if I recall correctly started bitching about the players selected by GM during the 2012 season. This seems to me to be the point at which the ‘worm turned’ for those important relationships. We know York went with the GM and all that has followed stems from that.

    Where was Miller with his cell phone abuse while York was undermining the team texting, phoning and tweeting in 2014? Might have been a better use of his phone hucking talents to demonstrate the meaning of STFU to the child by pulverizing a few Nokias.

  88. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I do know there is disagreement between Spit and NJ about Hendrix/Balkey and the child. I’ve actually been a Hendrix supporter as we all know but can respect NJs POV while disagreeing. Really the larger point is not what happened and why since it’s done now but what is the result going to be for our future? Plenty of skepticism with the GM and current coaches from me. But not ready to say “We’re headed for 10 years for misery” just yet. I’ll give it until the BYE to make a decision on what our prospects look like. Calling for 7 wins is not a huge vote of confidence however. Need more info and am willing to wait for it.

    Chuck is a whole other matter but that’s showbiz.

  89. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spit just has to keep beating his own drum about his POV Phil.

    Requisite IQ comments coming from a one trick pony with a multiple personality disorder is comical.

    Last I read Spit, you’re no longer a 9er fan.
    Why the patronage here?
    Have something to prove?

  90. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – Congratulations. Those were all complete sentences. Your paragraph structure is still a little wanting, but hey… it’s the internet. NJ – anyone who’d rather have Trent Baalke as the GM over Jim Harbaugh as the head coach is certifiable. You stated numerous times on Chuck’s blog last year how great Baalke was and how expendable Harbaugh was. So, NJ, again, how’s that workin’ out for ya, buddy? And yeah, I’m done with the 49ers, but I ain’t done talkin’ football and stickin’ it to those who are less educated… like yourself. No offense.

  91. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    On another note = regarding the punter situation. Pinion was drafted 23 spots ahead of where The Forty Niners Drafted A Lee. So we’ve done it before. If Pinion makes team it’s all good.

    Here’s a plagiarized post by Scooter McGee at Cones Blog regarding/comparing Lee and Pinion:

    May 4, 2015 at 1:24 am

    So regardless of where you sit on the drafting of a punter in the 5th, it will be the first time in a long time there will be some intrigue in TC regarding the P battle. Here what I see regarding that battle:

    Andy Lee – where he has the advantage:

    – Despite a couple more shanks than usual last year, Andy Lee still has a booming leg and is one of the leading punters in the NFL for punt distance. Lee averaged 4.2 yards per punt more than Pinion in 2014.

    – Lee has plenty of experience in the NFL, dealing with different conditions, including the swirling winds of the Bay Area.

    – Lee has a good rapport with Dawson as the holder.

    Bradley Pinion – where he has the advantage:

    – Does well keeping his punts in the field of play inside the opposition 20, with only 2 of his 28 punts inside the 20 going for touch backs last year. He went 102 punts without a touch back at Clemson, including 42 inside the 20, prior to his first touch back in 2014. This is an area Lee has struggled with, and he had 7 of his 28 punts inside the 20 go for touch backs last year.

    – His net average was 40.3 yards per punt last year, only 2.3 yards per punt off his gross average. Andy Lee’s net was 7.2 yards per punt lower than his gross average last year. Pinion would appear to do a good job of getting hang time to let the coverage unit get down field and force fair catches or stop returns for minimal gain, something Lee can struggle with.

    – Pinion is also a kickoff specialist, with a touch back % of around 50% on kickoffs in 2014. He can replace Dawson on kickoffs.

    – Pinion is also a long range FG specialist. He can replace Dawson for very long range FGs.

    – Pinion is a cheaper alternative than Lee.

    Thanks Scooter!

  92. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    When a punter gets as much play on the blogs as this guy, you know damn well the 49ers are going down a dark road. If Harbaugh was here, we’d have a lot more to discuss than a punter.

  93. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Understand the pecking order Spit.
    GM hired the HC.
    GM didn’t call plays or get tasked with developing a QB.
    Whatever took place to create the separation between them is open for debate.

    Fact remains, Baalke is still here, Harbaugh is back in College, making a boatload of cash at his alma mater.

    Yes, Baalke does his job pretty well IMO.
    Said it here on this site too.

    I’ve also said, many times, that he has to continue finding adequate talent, and Coaches to develop them.
    If/when that cycle fails to improve, his job should be in jeopardy too.

    I’ve opted to remain invested in my team, through good times and bad.

    You’ve chosen to follow Harbaugh.
    Enjoy Michigan Football.
    I’m sure Jim will improve a program that’s fallen on hard times in recent years.
    Quite frankly, I think Jim enjoys the recruiting circuit more than he enjoyed having a GM to answer to.

    Our roster talent overall, has been pretty good under his watch.
    He’s restocked a Cap depleted Roster both through the Draft and FA.

    Find me any GM that hasn’t blown Draft Picks over the course of his tenure. They don’t exist.

  94. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, IIRC, Baalke got the job because he could deliver Harbuagh as HC. He was a pretty hot prospect w/o Baalke, not a guy Baalke “discovered” and made into a star coach.

    Do we think Harbaugh didn’t know about the sway he had in Baalke’s GM promotion?

    I also remember some guys Harbaugh wanted to keep and said so in the press. Baalke didn’t like that and didn’t keep them.

    It is Baalke’s job to keep improving the roster not use it as a weapon to prove his place on the totem pole.

    You can say Baalke has done a good job with the roster and mostly I’d agree, but there have been a bunch of fails, too. Harbaugh, otoh, delivered three years out of the gate to awards and accolades from football people around the league.

    How does Baalke have anything over Harbaugh?

    My heartburn with Baalke has only to do with his arrogance and the part he’s played in trashing a team for the sake of his ego. If Harbaugh had done that would you be so quick to say how good Harbaugh is at the job he has to do? I wouldn’t.

  95. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey NoFear49er.
    That’s how I understood the dynamic as well.
    Baalke secured/delivered Harbaugh.

    I don’t profess to know what derailed this thing, trust me.

    My opinion is worth about as much as anyone else’s in this debate.
    Somewhere within the walls of 4949 things just couldn’t get reconciled.

    I’ve given plenty of praise to Harbaugh for getting the roster into winning shape.

    For me, the Offense couldn’t find the knockout punch.
    Opponents appeared to have things figured out when it mattered.

    If Baalke sought changes that Jim was unwilling to make, I’d consider that a pretty prominent ingredient as to why things deteriorated perhaps?

    Kaeps’ development curve, would be another potential ingredient worth considering, as a detriment as well.

  96. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    There’s no doubt in my mind Nofear49er that Trent and Jim were similar personalities.
    Driven and motivated both.

    Given the title of GM, Trent likely didn’t concede too much, if any, control.
    Jed is useless in terms of NFL Mgt experience as well.

    Said this many times too.
    We were a dysfunctional operation during that period of turmoil.

    The results are in.
    We’re back to holding our collective A$$es and watching another ‘do over’.

    Painful, to say the least.
    I’m into wait and see mode, as there ain’t a damn thing I can do otherwise.

  97. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I can’t see that, NJ49er. Harbaugh took his team to the NFCCG three years in a row including a Super Bowl. How does Baalke then seek changes that Harbaugh doesn’t like and win that battle? Had harbaugh gone less than 8-8 for three years, that scenario might make more sense.

    Kaep’s development? In the year we were eaten alive by the injury bug? and still the players played their asses off for Harbaugh with nothing to play for.

    Besides, as I’ve pointed out many times, the sack-Harbaugh campaign started before the first game. Kaepernick could have played like Rodgers, nobody knew at that point. Everyone was crying for a change in the offense and Harbaugh gave you all what you asked for. Always ill-advised, I’ll agree with that, but it had nothing to do whatsoever with the push from the front office geeks to get Harbaugh out and out of his contract.

  98. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Nothing any of us can do NJ49er, immediately anyway. But there is an implied bargain between fans that foot the bill and the teams they pay for. Their end, as far as I’m concerned, is to deliver a winning team and failing that be making every effort to do so.

    They take the money and deliver a big shit sandwich via self-inflicted disasters. Too hard for me to take a big bite and pretend it’s prime rib or that they’re making winning football a priority.

  99. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t disagree NoFear49er, your points are well taken, regarding the advances Harbaugh brought for Playoff appearances.

    My point on Kaep’s development has more to do with the Offense lacking that extra gear.
    Could that have been seen as Harbaugh not getting him over the hump or, Kaep not being able to handle more?

    He sought off season tutoring finally so, I’m not sure how to digest that scenario.

    Simply wondering if Baalke felt Geep/Harbaugh didn’t provide enough development at the QB position?
    Hence the Offense remained predictable for lack of ability to introduce more diversity?

    All speculation on my part, I simply don’t have an answer as to why it deteriorated as it did.
    Injuries certainly played a huge role in the decline, no question.

  100. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Very true that the apologists called for more spread and 4 and 5 wide formations and that’s what Roman went to. Problem was this offense just didn’t click and in some games they forgot they had Frank Gore and he got fewer than 10 touches.
    The offense had trouble producing more than one TD a game passing and once again the apologists were screaming it was scheme and playcalling.
    The most ridiculous thing I’ve read from one of the apologists is he thinks Kap performed at a high level and if not for his accomplishments the team wouldn’t have won 8 games. How does any team in the NFL have a winning record when they have n offense where the QB produces just over one TD per game and is incapable of leading his team to overcome leads in the 4th quarter. Kap was incapable of throwing a single TD pass in the 4th quarter in 16 starts. That translates that your team is done if behind as the QB is incapable of the comeback. That is a truth that can’t be denied but the apologists do and have their blinders on blaming playcalling.
    That leads to the coaching staff being gutted and a makeshift staff put in place. This is the staff that Jed York promised he would do a nationwide search and leave no stone unturned.
    That is where we are today.

  101. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Jed can tie ribbons on the marketing end of the business all he wants.
    As a diehard fan, I expect as much from the product on the field as you, or any of us would.
    Baalke is more the face of the product for me, in terms of the talent he secures.
    Like him or not, I’ve given him above average grades for the majority of the moves he’s made since he took control.

    He benefited from the job Harbaugh did to tie the loose ends together within the locker room, no question.

    If all I get, between the start of the season, and the visit to the NYG in October is a sh!t sandwich, I’m already preparing to set up another protest, in the parking lot at The Meadowlands, to demand that Jed SELL too.

  102. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I still think Baalke should’ve used a draft pick on a QB and I’m disappointed that he didn’t.
    Baalke is thinking like Jerry Jones. Jones won’t draft a QB because he’s all in with Romo with limited success. The difference here is Jones is the owner and Baalke is depending on Kap to allow him to keep his job as GM.
    I realize this QB crop is not very strong but still they should’ve used one of their 4th rd picks on the highest rated QB on their board.
    I actually think they should take a QB in every draft but Baalke has only taken an undersized Daniels in the 6th round in his 5 years running the draft.

  103. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s what’s going to happen to this 49er team short-term, mid-range and long-term. First, in 2015, the 49ers will struggle to run the ball, and struggle to stop the run. When the defense isn’t able to the stop anyone, and the offense can’t score, the team loses games, and it’ll lose a lot of games in 2015. And 2015 motivation is very interesting. There’s a saying in politics that for every one person who speaks up and says something, there’s four more who feel the same way. With population growth it may be more like ten now, but I digress. Anyway, for every one player on the 49ers’ roster who speaks out about or expresses displeasure with the 49ers’ front office and coaching staff, there’s four more behind him. Alex Boone’s message is all over the place, but a recent “kinda” request for a trade means there’s others wanting out as well. And the timing of Willis and Borland retiring leaves room for speculation. Did Willis and Borland need several months after the end of the 2014 season to think about things before retiring? Or did they want to see the moves Jed York made before figuring out the risk / reward? Nobody really knows the answer to this question except maybe their families, but the timing was interesting to me. Gore leaves, all of Harbaugh’s loyal coaches split, Tomsula’s hired, Iupati leaves and then Willis and Borland retire. Again, I don’t know their true motivations, but if you couple Willis and Borland with Alex Boone’s comments, and all the talent leaving that left via free agency, there’s no doubt in my mind that there’s several 49ers on this current roster who are both disgruntled and no longer worried about playing as a team, but more concerned with getting paid, and that’s a lot like the Erickson, Nolan and Singletary years. If the team stinks, and players have to play on bad teams, they make sure they get theirs.

    So not only is the 49er roster no longer very good, but the coaching staff is below average, and there’s guys on the roster who aren’t all that fired-up to play for Tomsula. In my mind, that means the 49ers will go 4-12 this year, and the finger will point at one person, and one person only – Jed York.

    The question is, what will York do after a 4-12 season and players clearly only playing for themselves and their paychecks? Will York find a scapegoat in Tomsula or Baalke, or will the scapegoat become Colin Kaepernick – allowing York to stick with Baalke and Tomsula for another year if they all collectively offer Kaep’s head as a peace offering to the restless fans?

    But one way or the other, both Tomsula and Baalke will be fired. The question is how quickly? Tomsula will be fired in two years, and might get the hook after year one if the remaining fans come unglued and don’t except Kaep as the scapegoat.

    Baalke is harder for fans to blame. I see Baalke as a bad talent evaluator and this draft, to me, signifies I was right. And contrary to popular opinion, you CAN evaluate a draft immediately after the draft. Some players are risky. Some players are projects. Some are injured. Some are ready to go immediately. I don’t see any players in this draft besides Mike Smith who are ready to go immediately, and this team has a ton of holes. That’s Baalke’s fault. That’s a bad draft. A team with a ton of holes means you have to draft players who are ready to play now. Unless you’re rebuilding… but not admitting you’re rebuilding is a dangerous business because mis-managed expectations can get you fired… but I digress.

    Now that Harbaugh is gone, talent acquisition like Jerome Simpson and the future inevitable pickup of Lance Briggs – it’s all on Baalke. There can be no confusion about the role Jim Tomsula played, unlike the confusion Harbaugh’s very knowledgeable and experienced coaching staff that blurred the evaluation lines. Tomsula, no matter how hard he tries, isn’t evaluating talent or pushing for the acquisition of talent, but Harbaugh did. If I’m right, it’ll takes longer to figure out if Baalke is good or bad because Harbaugh’s staff was so good at evaluating talent. It’s almost like Baalke’s cutting this teeth just now. But Baalke’s a stinker, and if I’m right, Jed York won’t have a choice but to fire Baalke in the next three years if the players Baalke continues to draft are all guys like Vance McDonald, LaMicheal James, AJ Jenkins, Cory Lemonier and others…

    But the really important question is simple. I’ve answered the question already, and it’s the reason I believe the 49ers are going to suck for the next ten years. After Baalke and Tomsula are fired, who is going to want to work for Jed York again? Right now there are guys close to Vic Fangio in Chicago, guys working with Roman in Buffalo, Seely with the Raiders, etc. And those ex 49er coaches will be professional, but there will be times when an assistant or a position coach is in the film room, or talking football with a guy like Fangio and asks – “What’s it like working for that circus in SF?” And Vic will shake his head and say, “That owner can’t get out of his own way.”

    And it won’t take word to spread like wild fire from the mouth’s of ex coaches. The ex players will bring reports of Jed York ignorance and undermining to their current teams and the 49ers will become (once again) a black hole where only the desperate coaches (Mangini) who’ve unwillingly got one foot out the NFL door make a last pit stop before watching games on Sunday from their comfy couches. Players too. Remember Kevan Barlow? How long did it take Pittsburgh to cut him? But in SF he’d have stayed forever if McCloughan hadn’t found Gore.

    But word that Jed York runs a circus also doesn’t have to spread from the mouth’s of ex 49er players. There are plenty of coaches in the NFL who saw how York treated Harbaugh and are smart enough to steer clear of SF while building their own resumes. Pete Carroll was paying attention. When Pete Carroll was asked how he’d respond if his owner tweeted mid game, “Unacceptable,” Pete Carroll laughed and said, “Our owner would never do that.” And Pete was cool enough to come to come Harbaugh’s aid in Harbaugh’s time of need, calling Harbaugh a “Stud” while Jed let Uncle Tom Deion Sanders trounce Harbaugh weekly. There will be plenty of coaches- talented coaches – who know their time will come to coach in the NFL, but who are smart enough to wait for the right situation and avoid an owner who tweets “unacceptable,” mid game… or an owner who unleashes the NFL Network dogs on his very own head coach.

    Look at the Washington Redskins, the Oakland Raiders, Jacksonville and the Browns. Washington had to hire Gruden because Gruden’s weak and would jump at any chance given to him. Anyone think Gus Bradley in Jacksonville’s a winner? What about Dennis Allen in Oakland?

    The point is, once you fire a guy like Jim Tomsula, you don’t hire up. You don’t get to convince a great prospect to rebuild the mess Tomsula and Baalke created. You don’t get to recruit a Chip Kelly or bring a guy out of retirement like Bill Cower or Tony Dungy. If your organization has a bad reputation (like the 49ers now do), you’ll be forced to hire first time coaches or guys who are huge question marks. And it’s the same with the GM.

    The 49ers are going to be a bad football team for the next ten years. Personally, I won’t be a 49er fan again until Jed York either dies or he sells the team. But I think the former is more likely in my lifetime, and who wants to follow a loser for the rest of their lives? All of this above? It’s why Jed York will never win a Super Bowl.

  104. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I’m not ready to call Kaep a miss just yet.
    I still believe his ceiling is pretty high.
    Yes, it was a pretty weak crop at the QB position this year Draft-wise.

    Baalke is loading up in UDFAs at the WR position too.
    I don’t rule out the need for more competition at the position but, I think Baalke wants to give Kaep some wiggle room right now perhaps?

    Should this year’s efforts from the QB position not show signs of improvement, a QB next year wouldn’t be out of the question for me.
    Gabbert ain’t much but, he’s better than whoever Baalke might have selected this year.
    I have absolutely no expectations from Dylan Thompson at this point either.
    Simply a Camp arm right now IMO.

  105. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – You’re so full of shit it’s ridiculous. “Gabbert isn’t much but he’s better than any qb in this year’s draft Baalke could have selected?” You’re full of crap. This draft could have the next Joe Montana in it. You don’t have a clue. You’re a Baalke apologist.

    And what leads you to believe that, anyway? How well Gabbert played in pre season last year? Just because you list 45,000 NFL eligible players pre draft doesn’t make you a guru. It makes you bored….

  106. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spit it’s called experience at the QB position right now numbnuts.
    If you needed an immediate backup to Kaep this season, Gabbert is likely the best we have to offer.

    What exactly are you offering beside 10,000 word screeds about how knowledgeable you are?

    Spit’s thesis on being a geneous.

    For all you know Dylan Thompson could be the next Joe Montana.

    For all your bravado, you’e a raving retard.

  107. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    You’re quick to label everything Baalke attempted to do in this Draft a failure, before 1 guy even puts on the pads.
    Run and check with Kiper about the Grades he hands out.
    He might agree with you, thereby making him relevant as well.

    No surprise you agree with the selection of RB Mike Davis, he’s a guy you favored.

    Try being an informed contributor rather than a flaming blowhard.

    It might take a little effort on your part but, you are after all a geneous, I’m sure you can do it.

  108. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Want to help spit here. How do the graders come up with grades. It is not just film but coaches appraisals, combine times,… that can be quantifiable. Kiper etc. then make their judgments. Some of these guys get it right. So Baalke can be judged quickly and not wait 2 yeays. Inexact but worthwhile. Baalke blew picks 2 and 3. You can take that to the bank.

  109. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He might have blown all 10 Picks for all we know.
    Give it chance.
    College players, all of them, trying to take it to the next level.
    The larger percentage of them won’t cut it.

    Take that to the bank.

  110. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    All of us have biases. Some want to cling to a team and ride it out. I cannot stomach managerial incompetence. 2012 failed on all picks. After two very good drafts the GM pulled a did and hopefully it will not rival 2012. I can understand ILB was a weak class and FA can be a stopgap rather than overreaching. CB’s always have early runs and if early picks want to be spent elsewhere that is also understandable. Passing on WR1 at 2 and/or 3 is inexcusable with a deep class.

    It pains me to write this team off for this year. This roster needed a high pick at WR and the GM did not give Colin and the OC the necessary tool to fix the O mess.

  111. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Welcome to hell Skeebs. You now have spitty talking to himself.

  112. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Qb is the most important position on the team. Even drafting a QB it usually takes 2 years for him to get up to speed.
    By not having a developmental QB in place is a roll of the dice because there is the possibility of injury where Kap has been lucky so far.
    I wasn’t happy with Harbaugh having Josh Johnson as the 3rd QB simply because he couldn’t push the other 2 guys and threaten to start.
    I think there it is wrong to keep putting off drafting a QB.
    I’m talking 3rd, 4th or 5th rd pick where they have some potential to start if developed.

    When Alex Smith was traded they should’ve drafted a QB. They received 2 second rd picks for Alex. Baalke should’ve spent at least a 3rd rd pick in the 2014 draft on a QB.

    This might come back and bite him in the ass.

  113. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I was disappointed that Miami swooped in just before our first rd pick and took Devante Parker. I would’ve given the Saints a 4th and a 5th like San Diego gave us and moved in front of Miami to take Parker. I just wonder if Parker were there if Baalke would’ve selected him. Now we shall see how good of a WR we missed out on.

    Tank Carradine was hurt one year and spent year two catching up with the playbook. Because of his inexperience I wonder how long Armstaed is going to take before he makes significant contributions.

  114. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So Baalke also spends a draft choice on a WR in 4th rd and the inexplicably signs 5 undrafted free agent WRs.
    Still trying to figure that one out.
    I would’ve taken Tre Mcbride WR with a 7th rd pick as he was still sitting there and was thought to be a mid round pick but Baalke says his board said otherwise.

  115. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – What are you looking for in your backup qb? It’s not called “experience” like you offered. It’s called “Can he win a game or two while the starter is healing?” That’s all you’re looking for from your backup qb. Experience means nothing. It’s all about whether or not he can win? Blaine Gabbert was so suspect in last year’s pre season, not drafting a backup qb to push Gabbert was criminal because if Kaep goes down, Gabbert isn’t going to win anything. But you know why Gabbert wasn’t challenged by another Baalke qb selected in this draft? It’s because Baalke’s got his name on Gabbert now, and Baalke doesn’t want Gabbert to fail. It’s more Baalke ego. Even the great Bill Walsh had numerous horses in the stable with, at one time, Montana, Young and Bono. No hurt feelings there. But instead of pushing Gabbert, or hell, even pushing Kaep, Baalke goes out and gets Blake Bell? Ridiculous.

    There were plenty of good qbs in this years draft who could have backed up Gabbert, or even pushed Gabbert for the number two qb position. And correct me if I’m wrong (Sandy), but isn’t the 49er OC a past QB coach? Wouldn’t he be able to design a scheme to help win a game in a pinch for a backup qb with little experience? I should think so. Because I’ll tell you one thing…. if Kaep goes down, Blaine Gabbert isn’t going to win you anything. But, by the time this happens, you’ll have forgotten we had this argument, and like Chuck, you’ll change your position to save face. How’s that workin’ out for ya?

  116. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Every team is in that position shittybrains. Very few teams carry on with their backup in there. Yeah, I wanted them to draft a QB. They didn’t.

    You think Tom Petty comes in and leads us anywhere? As a rookie? Dream on. Or should I say damn the torpedoes?

    Or just Post another 100,000 words about it.

  117. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You said it yourself last year. You made the statement that Kap was all we had and you wouldn’t put Gabbert into the game even if he’s stinking up the stadium. The suggestion was made after we were eliminated from playoff contention to play Gabbert and see what he could do in a real game.
    So it’s 2015, and we are stuck if Kap does not succeed.
    Same question, can we replace Kap if he’s having a bad day with gabber to energize the team? That’s what Gabbert is there for. Baalke is paying him $2 mil a year for 2 years. Do I want to pay myn all punter $2 mil and reward him for turning around field position or pay a stiff like Gabbert $2 mil tostand on the sidelines who never get’s in the game?

  118. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – Just ignore Chuck. Responding to him directly makes you just as guilty. Trust me, there will be other conversations. Chuck isn’t worth your time.

  119. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Word is that Armstead was the 2nd rated 3-4 DE with huge upside. Am OK with this pick. Virtually impossible to get WR1 from mid-level and UDFA picks. Colston elevated by Brees. Colin can not make teammates better around him yet, if ever. Houston was able to jump their 2nd and 3rd picks to get who they wanted. Instead Baalke accumulates late round picks.

    Colin pushing a boulder up a hill with this garbage heap of OC and QB coach. Reality hurts and nothing the circle-jerking homers at Chuck’s site can change that. House clean the OC trough after we achieve a top 10 pick for 2016. Colin gets another year to prove himself and will follow the Alex Smith trajectory of hanging around long enough to have a long career here or elsewhere.

  120. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bakkentom appears to be an intelligent blogger. How do I know? One sentence: “Nothing the circle-jerk homers on Chuck’s site say or do can change that.” Even though I doctored the sentence a little, it might be my favorite sentence, ever. Now who is Bakkentom? He’s not Del Mar. He’s not V. He could be Skeebers. He’s not Rob (the squirrel in the tree won’t let Rob blog coherently). Beware, Bakkentom, Chuck will no doubt paint you as FlyingV to discredit your voice of discontent. But if you question this York clown show, you’ve got credibility around these parts.

    Blogging between this site and Unca Chuck’s site is odd. This site used to be a full-on Alex Smith lovin’ site, then it changed to a York sucks site. Chuck’s blog was somewhat neutral on the Alex Smith love, but is now in full head in the sand, “Jed York is awesome” mode. Depending on where your allegiances lie, new topics create strange bedfellows. I, for one, pride myself on being on the right side of both arguements – Didn’t like Alex Smith, love Harbaugh, and think Jed York is the worst owner in the NFL. And, yes, Harbaugh did need to grow up a little… Anyway, I’m a geneous, and I’m hoping Bakkentom’s legit.

  121. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Says the tool who can’t say anything in under 100,000 words. Being ignored is a bitch isn’t it? This is your last spot before you are banished to your decrepit blog, railing at the nothingness.

    Bullit, do you have a point, or just rambling again? Yeah, I wanted us to draft a QB. We didn’t. This goes back to the Harbaugh days and before. Who did Scotty draft at QB? Nate Davis? Wow! They had much better opportunities to draft a meaningful QB in the 00s than these days. Still don’t mean shit. The problem? Developing a QB and then losing him to free agency once he’s either good, or toss cuz he’s not worth it. Hello, Matt Flynn. Most QBs after the 3rd round are a pipe dream.


    Funny, why are people are leaving this blog, skeebs? I mean the ones who aren’t banned?

    I count Bergs, Rob, 12th, and RTF among the latest. I just like f*^&ing with you dumbasses or I’d be gone.

  122. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. You and Bullit attribute all this as some sort of actual thing. Tom is you, spitty. Duh. Timing isn’t very hard to figger out. Like Bullit and his Redbull/TouchdownTommy phase.

    That is what is so funny. How big a loser are you? I talk about my team. You and Bullit attribute the ‘being right’ thing as proving you are smart. Uh, right. You wanted Whitehurst or Nate or whoever to be our QB, shitty, in your dumbass anyone but Alex BS.

    Like you posting a stock photo of what was supposedly you catching a fish (I mean, how pathetic is that!) you guys live and die with this. Bullit goes so far as to dig up 5 year old posts to make a point of something or another. Crabs is GREAT!!!! Blah blah blah.

    Grow up and f*^ off. Or act like real people, not blathering ninnies,

  123. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    When did I leave? Wow, missed even though I’m here. All in all, I’d rather not be in Philadelphia.

  124. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Bullit, do you have a point, or just rambling again?” says Chuck, as he then rambles off pointlessly in all directions. Who needs a laugh track, when we have the Chuckster?

  125. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck likes to f*^&k with us by lobbing his brain in here for batting practice. Wham! Ooooooosh!

  126. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit just can’t disengage from the Chuckster. Please try for all of our sakes, Bullit… and for the children. The children… And I admit I’m a hypocrite because I belittle NJ, but NJ was dead wrong about the choice between Baalke and Harbaugh, and this point needs to be driven into NJ’s head so future transgressions aren’t repeated.

  127. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    wham oosh? Still haven’t answered why Rob, Bergs and others have left.
    Must be the scintillating idiocy. RTF? Well, a glutton for punishment I suppose.

    I mean, you DO have Spitty here. The man (?) whose claim to fame is being ignored across the interwebs all over the universe.

  128. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And you can’t disengage from yourself. Who else says so little in so lengthy a fashion? NoFear? Figures you two are tied at the waist.

  129. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Spit stop obsessing over your Harbaugh/Baalke power play and accept the fact that Jed made his call.

    Right or wrong, Harbaugh chose College.

    And, learn the difference between argument and debate.

    The day you ‘school’ me on my 9er knowledge, is the day I’m considered brain dead.

  130. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t like my Draft research?
    Do some of you own.
    Put it out here and stand with it.
    I don’t blow my own horn about anything, as you do.

    I share an opinion about the team I’m invested in.

    Don’t like it?
    Defend your position or get lost.

  131. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Tell me how DC is faring with RG III?
    Sold out for a shrimp gimmick QB.

    Baalke got 2 Picks for moving back 2 slots this year.

    Blake Bell was ‘free’.

    You trash the process but you seriously don’t have an eff’n clue about the process.

    Meat market.

    Bottom line?

  132. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Nothing like Chuckles and his daily clown troll act.
    Every day he affirms to all he’s King troll.

  133. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    See, NJ… this is why you have the lowest IQ of all bloggers, ever. “Harbaugh chose college.” No he didn’t. It’s well understood that after the Seattle game where Jed tweeted, “Unacceptable” that Harbaugh was informed he wouldn’t return. The concocted story of a “mutual parting of the ways,” was created by Jed York so idiots such as yourself would eat it up and defend York by saying, “What could York do? I was mutual.” No it wasn’t. Fact is, York is too much of a coward to stand-up and be a man and say, “I did that. I fired Harbaugh.” Instead the coward, Jed York, needed lies, the NFL Network and Matt Maiocco to do damage control. And absolute idiots such as yourself, NJ, ate it up and still are trying to do York’s damage control. But your justice will come in the form of a terrible 49er record in 2015, and you won’t be able to then explain away the York and Baalke incompetence…. and that’ll be fun. It’ll also be fun asking you each week, “How’d that work out for ya?”

  134. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – it’s ironic you know he’s trolling you and you still respond.

  135. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    What do I expect from a backup QB?

    Why don’t you answer that?
    Win a game or 2?

    Gabbert might do that.
    A college Draftee?
    Yeh right.

    You’re football knowledge is nothing more than a superiority complex mixed with a multiple personality disorder.

    Again, get a clue.
    Do some research.
    Open your mind.
    Understand the process.

    For the most part, you’re clueless.

    90 guys this time of year.
    Try them out.
    37 ain’t gonna make it unless PS guys are recalled.

  136. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You need to add Titans and Cox to your list

  137. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, I was the very first on this blog or yours to make a prediction for our record in 2015. Numero uno. #1. Eins. Un.


    I’m the first on the bandwagon for significantly better position for the next couple drafts.

    Glutton for punishment? Being a Niner fan during the Joe Thomas years was being a glutton for punishment. Being a Giants fan when they traded George Foster straight up for Frank Duffy was being a glutton for punishment, or when they traded Gaylord Perry for Sudden Sam McDowell. It happens.

  138. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I forgot the Warriors and their trade of the decade of Robert Parish and the #1 pick that became Kevin McHale for Joe Barry Carroll. Seriously. That one happened.

    Now being a Warriors fan after that, rooting for #13 from Alcorn State Larry Smith to make a free throw (I loved the guy; I went to tons of games during the time those high school kids had their LS fan club in the stands that got all the camera time.) – now that was being a glutton for punishment.

  139. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I still believe a competent backup QB is essential to a playoff team.
    Look at 2013 Green Bay when Rodgers was hurt. Flynn started 6 games and had a record of 2-3-1. It so happened that the Packers won their division by that half a game and made it into the playoffs and Rodgers was able to comeback and start.
    I hope Gabbert would be able to do the same but it’s hard to tell. From his performance during Pre-season games no way.
    When we were eliminated I wish he got some time in games but that didn’t happen either. So Gabbert is an unknown and he needs to be given a chance to show what he can do.
    What I do kbnow is there is no harm in carrying 3 QBs and I feel every year you delay this you are falling behind in developing a 3rd QB.
    Blake Bell is a failed QB at OU. That’s why they moved him to TE. he can’t throw. When I hear Baalke talk about him as an emergency QB I roll my eyes simply because if he couldn’t hack it as a QB at OU how does perform as one even in an emergency in the Pros. That’s like having a Vetenarian fill in for a doctor as a contingency plan.

  140. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    And no, NJ, I don’t like your draft research. Do you know why? Because you just list a ton of guys. That’s all you do. You create lists. That’s great, but I can cut and paste lists as well, but it’s pointless. There’s no reason for blogging purposes to create your own NFL draft big board. It doesn’t translate. And if you and your son do it as a hobby, that’s awesome. But it doesn’t translate to blogging.

    It’s better if you grab five guys (or even better… less) at each position and put your own NJ stamp on five guys you like or stand behind. But listing every guy eligible doesn’t mean you’ve evaluated anything. It means you’ve created a list. Pick 3-5 guys at each position and break down “WHY” they are going to be good at the NFL level.

    I pick about ten guys total every year that I like -ranging from 1st rounders to 5th rounders. That’s it. Those are the ten or so guys I follow in the NFL in that draft class. And my list is pretty impressive. Off the top of my head….

    Vince Wilfork
    Drew Brees
    Carl Nicks
    Micheal Oher
    Dre Kirkpatrick
    Darius Slay
    Kawaan Short
    Kirk Cousins
    Curtis Lofton
    Andy Dalton
    Earl Thomas
    Doug Martin
    Alshon Jeffrey
    Jeremy Hill
    Xavier Rhodes
    Stanley Jean Batiste
    Muhammed Sanu
    Jerrel Worthy
    Deion Simms
    Rueben Randle
    Jake Locker
    Devanta Freeman

    And this year my boys are:
    Landon Collins
    Malcom Brown
    Devin Funchess
    Micheal Bennett
    Sean Mannion
    Mike Davis
    Stephone Anthony
    Jeff Heuerman
    Karlos Williams
    Josh Robinson
    EJ Bibbs

    If you notice, I try not to pick blue chippers. Those are easy.

    Grabbing ten players, more or less, and explaining why you think they’ll be good NFL players is far more insightful than just making list after list of eligible players.

    The only two guys, NJ, that I give you credit for finding pre-draft are Ladarius Green (TE Chargers – who’s average) and Donte Moncrief (WR Colts). That’s it. The other guy you stood behind was Ace Sanders, but he’s done nothing so far that I’ve seen. Those are the two or three guys who you really stood behind. The rest are just lists to me. No offense.

  141. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This just in a sportsbook in Vega$ thinks the Niners are the unfavorite to win the NFC West


  142. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – the money doesn’t lie. That’s why Chuck won’t bet. He’ll come on here and run his mouth endlessly, but in the end, he’ll cower away. The money don’t lie.

  143. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    ESPN just ranked the 49ers 20th and dropping in their power rankings. LMAO. What was the lowest the team dropped during the Harbaugh years?

    The writers also wrote, “It was just a fifth-round pick, but did the 49ers really need to draft a punter with so many other holes to plug? Especially considering nobody else took a punter or kicker?”

    My thoughts exactly. The 49ers have a ton of holes that Baalke didn’t address in this draft. He’s a bad GM and he’ll be exposed now that Harbaugh is gone. Nice choice, York. How’s that workin’ out for ya, NJ?

  144. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er likes Baalke and he defends him. What’s wrong with that? Try selling an opinion out of lock step on the Skeebers Report blog. That’s where most of what they do is talk about what’s going on here. The owner of that blog posts more here than he does there and asks why people post here and read his bullshit. Then he goes on his blog and reports on the progress his trolling has made to cheers and whoops and me-toos. Lots and lots of me-toos.

    The only form of debate or argument Chuck knows is schoolyard taunts and name calling. He takes offense if you don’t like what he just plagiarized until he plagiarizes something else to get behind.

    Bring it on, Chuck. Why not bring more of your baseball buds over here to agree with you and me-too your name-calling.

    Too many words making your head hurt? I can sum it up for you in two words….

  145. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Cut and paste my Ass Spit.
    I research guys I believe will fit our scheme.

    You on the other hand, sit on the sideline and lob insults at those of us vested in our opinions related to 9er football.

    You hate Jed.
    We get it.
    I’m not impressed with him either.
    Baalke has more NFL brains than Jed.
    Pick your poison Chump.

    Harbaugh is in Michigan.
    We are where we are right now.
    Ain’t pretty but, it’s reality.
    Join reality.
    You might learn something outside the realm of your own Ass.

  146. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – I’m not saying you cut and paste. I’m saying what’s the difference between what you do and cutting and pasting? If you explain why you like a guy it sticks, but you rarely explain why you like a guy. And if you don’t explain it, he’s just part of a list…

  147. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – “Bring it on, Chuck?” Is that really the kind of discourse you’re after? Do you grow, personally, when exchanging barbs with Chuck all day on this blog and other blogs? It’s a joke. You’re caught up in a troll because that’ll about as much meaning as Chuck’s life has. Why stoop to his level? You’re ex military for god sakes. You’re better than that.

  148. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    I post a list that I share with my Son Spit.

    Been doing it for 25yrs.
    If I included bio’s on all the guys I stack my Board with, the Blog hosts might not appreciate it.

    I come here to talk 9ers.
    Share opinions.

    You’re here to contradict and fuel self promotion.
    Again, you’re a Michigan fan now.
    Why does my opinion matter to you?

    Who’s schooling who?

    You remain clueless in your ability to provide any substance, other than your own agenda.

    Your endless drivel of self promotion.

    Spit World…
    Where attitude outweighs common sense.

  149. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – Have you ever realized how many other user names Chuck has on his blog that Chuck blogs under? It’s pathetic. Chuck literally has five different user names that Chuck blogs under regularly so he can agree with and support himself. It’s scary to think (or realize) just how twisted Chuck is. It’s why Grump calls Chuck Sybil. I could see Chuck on the 5 o’clock news with a high power rifle under his arm sitting on top of a water tower waving hello to camera crews. Ironically, it’s not the fight that would push Chuck there, it’s ignoring him. You want to drive Chuck insane, pulling the ultimate troll on Chuck? Ignore him. Then he’ll be on top of a water tower with his rifle for sure, hoping his future jail cell has wifi.

  150. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    My god, NJ. You’re stupid. I’m not talking about backgrounds, bios or collectible data you can find on players on the internet. I’m talking about your own insights as to who you think will be good NFL players and more importantly, why? Like I wrote before, just writing a list isn’t insightful or helpful.

  151. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear, you are a straight pussy. For a guy who served, you act like a butt-hurt 12 year old girl. Grow a pair.

    What do you bring to every argument here? Hindsight and innuendo.

    Funny calling me the faker, Bakken/Spitty/whatever the hell your last 5 handles were, when you’ve been doing it for years. Go catch some more imaginary fish, dumbass. Your stupidity is legendary.

    Why do you bring up these do called baseball friends? Like people can’t talk aboiut 2 sports? What a f^%$ing maroon.

    Don;t pat yourselves on the ass too hard over driving people away, and attracting the scum of the blog world, Skeebs.

  152. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yes, NoFear, I have 3-dimensional friends. Try it sometime.

    You guys have this. Virtual grab-ass-land.

  153. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    NJ does what I do. Share info. If you don’t like it then don’t read it. He didn’t ask for your endorsement nor does it mean anything.

    Since none of us are scouts the info we post is usually second hand so I try to give it a source. Second hand can even be a You Tube video because most are highlights and we don’t see these players at their worst.
    Even watching an entire game you really have to record it and go back to evaluate how a player did because you have to isolate that player and focus on his play.
    Nothing wrong with not having the same point of view. Just be civil and keep the rebuttals clean and non-personal.
    Example: The opposite of how Chuckles behaves.

  154. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Who cares, Spitty? I wanted ODB in a big way last year. Big f-ing deal. I thought LMJ would be great out of the backfield. I saw Brady play at my old HS. I thought sure, he’s great. Shit, I saw Lynn Swann play in HS and college. Thought he’d be a stud.

    If guys who do this for a living can’t get it right, there’s the likelihood that us on the outside won’t hit home runs every time either. Sorry NoFear, guess I shouldn’t use baseball metaphors.

  155. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    There goes Chuckles again. He can’t stifle his misogynistic insults. Again using gender to bash others.

    “you act like a butt-hurt 12 year old girl”

    That’s why Chuckles stand on domesrtic abuse is disingenuous.
    He continually uses calling someone a female to insult them. He just can’t help it.
    Busted because he always reveals his true colors.

  156. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spitblood, I call it winding up Chuck. Wind him up and he bellows, smokes, fumes, twirls, and tumbles.

    You argue to ignore Chuck while Chuck argues to get you banned. You don’t get all the fun.

    Do you think Chuck has the stones to call anyone (even a twelve year-old girl) a pussy to their face? He lives in la la land here. He won’t stay home because he finds he can call anyone anything behind his keyboard and he likes being the keyboard commando tough guy. Not even he buys it.

    I prefer to ignore Chuck’s cries for attention these days but sometimes the diversion is just too tempting.

  157. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I missed this:

    Chuck says:
    “Don;t pat yourselves on the ass too hard over driving people away, and attracting the scum of the blog world, Skeebs.”

    Does anyone need more proof?

  158. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    But NoFear… you don’t wind Chuck up. You give him exactly what he’s after. You want to wind Chuck up? Ignore him. He’ll go ballistic. I know most of us on this blog could backhand Chuck around like a little girl. I understand he needs a keyboard and five different user names on his own blog to build himself up. I get it. But what I don’t understand is why people keep engaging the guy. If you saw Chuck at the grocery store you wouldn’t want to engage in a conversation with him. Quite the contrary. You’d run. And I don’t see what’s fun about Chuck trying to get me banned. Leaving the asylum is good for my health. I welcome the opportunity.

  159. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Banned for boredom?

  160. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    How am I trying to get you banned oh master of 15 names? You’ve hing yourself all by yourself in your desperate screams for attention. Tell me you aren’t bakkentom. Or big Jim slade.

    And how you now say to me what I’ve been saying about you. The old “I know you are, but what am I?” Clever, for a child.

    Have at it, corksoakers. Adios, cinco de morons.

  161. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Vaya con Diablo

    Hasta mañana

  162. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s a little insight into how Baalke & Co approached the Draft.
    As in any Draft cycle, you need contingency plans for the unexpected.


    Had Parker lasted another slot, I’d have been all over him.

    In a perfect World, Kevin White would have been my primary target this year, as OBJr would have been my 1st option last year.

    In the business of Draft selections, I’ve learned over the years, that you have to have value assigned ahead of positions.

    As this link would suggest, they targeted CB/LB.
    Board didn’t fall their way.

    Baalke has stated, ‘we don’t reach’ for need.

    It’s all about what the Scouts produce and, the Coaches agree upon.
    The GM pulls the trigger when the card is turned in.

  163. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Vaya con Diablo”

    LOL. That’s funny.

    Looks like the spring cleaning is well underway. Carry on.

    BTW RT Philadelphia is bad but you should try the Philippines. Cheerio.

  164. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    So if you were Baalke would you have given the Saints a 4th and 5th pick to move up 2 spots to take Parker?

    I only say this because I’m thinking what if Walsh had the same attitude as Baalke. If he didn’t reach to jump in front of Dallas
    to pick Jerry Rice where would this franchise be? Takes a lot of guts, belief and fortitude to trade up. You are putting a great part of your team’s future to move up. Last year Beckham would’ve been worth it.
    If Devante Parker could be had for 2 4th round picks I would have made the deal to move up 2 spots.
    I only say this because unless Smelter recovers and progresses
    turning into TO ability wise we will be back next year looking for a receiver and it won’t go away until we find one.

  165. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullitt, good question.

    Word has it, Baalke tried to get up for OBJr last year but, found it to be too expensive.

    Given the holes our roster has at other positions, giving up Picks might have been prohibitive as well?

    Hard to know at this point.

    If Armstead was the primary target or not, we’ll obviously have to wait to hear.
    Assuming that Armstead was our target, getting 2 extra Picks and, still landing him ain’t so bad.

    Funny you mention TO.
    I find Smelter to be very similar to TO myself.

    Granted, TO was a 3rd RD steal for us so, I’m hopeful Smelter can find similar success for us as well.

    Dealing into the Top 10 ain’t cheap.
    Ask Chip.
    If anyone was coveted more than Mariota, by any team in this League, it would have been Mariota for Chip.

    Personally, I think Chip cut his own throat by dealing away a 2 in the Bradford deal.
    If ever there’s a position to sell out for, it would have been Chip for Mariota.
    He didn’t have the ammo to pull it off.

    Which isn’t going to keep me up at night.
    Philly seems to think Chip is God.
    So far, I ain’t impressed.

    What he’s succeeded at doing now is, pissing off several guys, that now know, he tried to Trade them in pursuit of Mariota.

  166. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Seeing as we don’t know the value placed on Parker, I couldn’t know how Armstead and Parker rated on Baalke’s Board.

    IMO, Baalke feels comfortable with Torrey and, appears to be looking for a future starter, at the X position.
    The bulk of our UDFA signings are WRs.
    Long shots all but, he’s obviously kicking the tires on the position pretty relentlessly.

    For now, Boldin will get it done.
    I can only hope Smelter, or another option, can be ready for next year, when Anquan would assume to be gone.

    We need some contributions from Patton and/or Ellington.
    My hope is that Adam Henry can get them over the hump this year.

  167. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We need an Offense that favors a passing game that Kaep can control too.
    Total mystery at this point as to what to expect from Geep and Logan.
    Hoping for some WCO-oriented flavor, to speed up the timing and, force Kaep to look short before taking off.

  168. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    The way the draft board set up we had to move up 2 spots to 13 to get Parker.
    Since we allowed Chargers to move up 2 spots to 15 and it cost them a 4th and a 5th I am guessing two 4th rd picks gets us to 13.
    Saints might make that trade because they figure who they want is there also at 15.
    I am curious because of then 5th rd pick spent on a punter which to me is a throwaway because we didn’t draft Ray Guy.

  169. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke says Niners don’r need receivers. He then drafts one and signs 5 undrafted free agents. That tells me you’re looking for receivers. Don’t forget Niners also have Chuck Jacobs on the practice squad.

  170. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Oops Phil, I replied to you on the Chuckster’s blog. That’ll get a couple heads scratching.

  171. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh Bullit, pretty strange how the Board process works, team to team.
    Whether Baalke attempted to go up for Parker? Who knows?
    Might suggest they wanted Armstead all along?

    I do think the UDFA DE we signed, Marcus Rush, might be a candidate to move to ILB?
    He doesn’t impress me as a guy tall enough to stay outside.

    Good stats otherwise, seems athletic enough to possibly transition inside, we’ll see?

  172. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Logan did predict the exact small ball approach that Brady used to beat Seattle. There may be hope but little track record in the NFL for him or the OC.

  173. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The UDFA WR from Duke, Blakeney is 6’6″/225.
    All those guys are longshots.
    What it does do is provide an opportunity to work with them to see who might have some potential at least.

    Can’t get too excited at this point, though Boone made it as an UDFA due to maturity issues when he came out.
    Never know?

  174. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Found a little bit of info on Blakeney, curiously, from a Seahawks Blog –


  175. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    When there is consensus opinion that there were 3 elite receivers
    in this draft it would seem a no brainer to take one if you have a shot.
    You don’t worry about drafting Armstead as you need a receiver more than a Dlineman.

    If Parker turns out as advertised Niner fans will be kicking themselves.

  176. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No doubt Bullit.
    All comes down to the Scouting process, and how these guys arrived at the value factor.

    When guys like Wes Welker and Victor Cruz can start as UDFA players, anything is possible I guess?

    Though the odds are extremely long, you just hope the evaluation process uncovers a gem or 2 along the way.

    I’d have killed for White or Cooper, Parker being my 3rd preference.

    Let’s just hope they hit with Smelter or Bell.
    We could use some weapons beyond Boldin and Davis, who won’t be onboard much longer.

    Bell is raw as a TE but, it’s all about potential with these guys.
    Big target with some ability to run.

    See what they can get from him.
    VMcD appears to be injury prone at this point?

  177. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bell has been a TE for one year having been converted recently.
    It’ll be a few years if he pans out.
    Not sure why Baalke is even talking of him as a emergency QB
    because he switched to TE because he wasn’t a good passer. Another project that won’t offer immediate help.

  178. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m seeing increased competition for VMcD.
    Both Bell and Busta will probably chase Vance off the roster.

    As with all the guys they pick up, either through the Draft or UDFA, it’s about competition.

    This is likely the end of the line for Dahl too perhaps?
    All comes down to who wants it more.

    Both of the Rookie Safeties, Tartt and Whitehead are pretty sturdy guys that can tackle.
    I’d guess they’re both cut out for ST contributors at this point, something you may not need Dahl for any longer.
    See what happens….

  179. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke was just using ’emergency QB’ comments as media chatter.
    Not sure who our EQB was last year?

  180. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I was just reviewing the numbers between Landon Collins, JTartt and UDFA S JWhitehead.

    Collins was the only guy at the S position that carried a RD1 Grade and, he went in RD2.

    Collins – 6’0″/228 – 4.53-40
    41 Games/190 Tkls/13 PBUs/5 Ints

    Tartt – 6’1″/221 – 4.50 -40
    43 Games/273 Tkls/20 PBUs/6 Ints

    Whitehead – 5’11″/197 – 4.50 -40
    39 Games/182 Tkls/14 PBUs/3 Ints

    What I liked about Tartt over Collins was his coverage abilities.
    All 3 guys are pretty damn close though.

    See how they go from here of course, it’s all about effort and production.

  181. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Emergency QB in 2014 was Boldin

  182. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Looking at the players drafted they are mostly projects offering no immediate help.
    the 4 players most likely to make an impact are Eli Harold, Mike Davis, Bradley Pinion and Rory Anderson.
    Armstead, Tartt, Bell and Smelter are a year or longer away.
    Bell only caught 16 passes as a converted TE and will be in constant learning mode.

    In a year when needs should have been addressed, Baalke stubbornly stuck with his draft board. That’s why he’s GM but we will see the consequences and results in the coming year.

  183. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Yep. I talked like that on Chuck’s site and I got gang banged. Will have to live off the late bearing fruits of the previous two drafts. OLine relief via Marcus Martin and Brandon Thomas. IOL OK depth wise. A credible backup for Davis at RT is still a need. Why wasn’t a high-rated pass TE taken to help Colin out. The only off season move to improve the O in a significant way was Torrey Smith to stretch the field.

    Prove it time for O staff. Gasoline needs crude oil coming into the refinery, not dog piss. DLine in a construction zone for one year. Top talent in first 3 rounds went to other teams, many on our schedule. And please take off the rose colored glasses. Top 10 pick here we come.

  184. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    There were 8 wide receivers taken in the first round, and 10 wide receivers taken in the first 40 picks. That’s gotta be some kind of a record. And Baalke giving a boat load of money to Torrey Smith when there was that kind of cheap WR talent available, shows just how lost Baalke is without Harbaugh. And Baalke also didn’t get an inside linebacker, or a backup quarterback to push Gabbert. Rookie WRs are one hundred times cheaper than wide receivers no longer playing on their rookie contracts, now making big bucks like Torrey Smith. And Torrey Smith is a one trick pony – a great deep ball threat with a qb in Flacco who throws a great deep ball. The deep ball isn’t Kaep’s forte. And without Iupati, the 49ers might not have the time for Kaep to look deep.

    In addition to these Baalke blunders, Baalke also didn’t replace Iupati or get a true TE who’s ready to compete with Vance McDonald and Derek Carrier this year. I think Harbaugh would have benched Vernon for not trying last year when Vernon’s holdout didn’t bare fruit, but Vance McDonald, Carrier and Celek all got hurt so Harbaugh had to start Vernon who intentionally missed blocks and didn’t look back for the football when running routes. The guys behind Vernon may be as fragile as china dolls and Blake Bell isn’t exactly going to push them.

    So Baalke missed on WR, ILB, TE, Backup QB and OL. Remember when the 49ers’ roster had the talent of a semi-pro league when Nolan took over? That was because of Terry Donahue drafting. Trent Baalke is doing the same thing to this roster. Baalke’s another Terry Donahue.

  185. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Spitty, Iuputi led the league in sacks given up by a guard. Losing him won’t hurt pass protection one bit. Now, Thomas or Boone or MMartin don’t inspire me with confidence either, but at least we don’t know what they’ll do at LG.

  186. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Spit – Gotta give you credit. You put all that stuff together and you have yourself a pretty good manifesto. But don’t you think it’s a useless effort since your new team is the Seawacks. They would probably get a good kick out of it over there.

  187. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    RT – I guarantee that’s not true about Iupati.

  188. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:


    That -7.5 that the article highlighted in red is the number of sacks given up by Iupati, next to the comment that it led the league for guards.

  189. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    RT – “Iupati’s Pass Blocking Efficiency of 95.1 was worse than all but nine other guards managed in 2014 and only seven surrendered more than the 31 total pressures he gave up.”

    You also need to factor in that Iupati was playing on a broken foot all year because it was his contract year. If it wasn’t a contract year, Iupati would have sat.

    And… when thinking about Colin Kaepernick, last year you had Iupati playing on a broken foot, and Anthony Davis also injured. Hard to complete with a sub par line. In years previous, Iupati was a much better pass blocker (even though the article doesn’t agree with this, and most don’t) but thanks for the stat and article.

  190. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Winder – I’m not sure if my new team will be the Raiders, Chargers, Bears or Seahawks. I’m on the fence. I’m definitely a Michigan fan, even though I couldn’t tell you one player on their team right now. But I see you workin’. You don’t like my angle. That’s too bad. But there’s a lot of things 49er fans aren’t going to like over the next decade. Better get used to the discomfort. Look at it this way – I’m doing you a favor easing you into terrible football. Just a while ago you were optimistic about the 2015 49er season. If it wasn’t for me, by week 6 you’d be on suicide watch. You can thank me later.

  191. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You don’t have to worry about Winder. He’s on beta blockers and doesn’t bat an eye whether the team wins or loses. If you get a sigh out of him, you’ve really ticked him off.

  192. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    There were multiple issues causing the pathetic pass protection last year. I’ve posted this before, but the Niners were undefeated last year in games where they were starting the same five guys that played those positions the previous week.

    MMartin was in way over his head at center. The line rotted from the center out. JMartin shouldn’t have been in the league.

    Nonetheless, Iupati has never been a good pass blocker. Ever. I don’t think I need citations for that.

  193. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, RT – the 49ers’ line last year sucked. No question. John Martin was bullied weekly. I think some elementary school have an 800 number for bullying. I wonder if Martin was ever tempted to call when he was in Miami? But I disagree with you about Iupati’s pass blocking in previous years (not 2014). I think everyone disagrees with me, though. In 2011 Pro Football Prospectus said Iupati was a better pass blocker than run blocker, but in recent years Iupati’s body has changed. If you look at him when he first came out, he was much more mobile (with long hair). Now he’s a much bigger, less mobile guy due to adding muscle mass. It’s all water under the bridge now, though. Sigh… lol.

  194. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:


  195. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    You’re correct RT, but before Iupati got hurt his pass blocking hovered around the neutral grades, 0.6, 0.7, -1.5. His overalls were 22.5, 15.9 and 16.4 rating him as 5th, 11th and 13th among all guards in the league.

    Funny to let him go to Arians’ squad and then say we’re going to run more.

    btw, his Pass Block grade was 0.7 and his Run Block grade was 13.1 in 2011.

  196. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – what does .7 vs 13.1 in 2011. Is lower better or worse?

  197. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Nevermind, NoFear. I might have read the Pro Football Prospectus article on Iupati the issue after Iupati was ranked 5th overall as a pass blocker, and that may have skewed my perception.

  198. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke sticking with his draft philosophy of projects and patience suggests that he thinks his position with the Jed is secure, even if we lose this year and next. We will see. Jed seems like the type to throw anyone under the bus to keep the hounds off him.

  199. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spitblood, in the PFF rating scheme players get marked up or down for plays or actions that are above or below normal expectations of starting players, usually in fractions of a point per play earning a grade. The grades are cumulative in a game/season so the higher the grade the better. If, for example, Iupati was rated 0.0 for a season that translates to an average starting player at the position.

  200. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think that’s true, Grumpy. Especially considering the tweets he made from Baalke’s daughter’s account!

  201. winderNo Gravatar says:

    skeebs- Lol, I don’t even know what a beta blocker unless they are in Motrin and aspirin. At my age sometimes the back just doesn’t want to sleep.
    spit- I have no problem with what you are saying no matter how many times you say it. In fact I have always liked talking to you, it does go back a little. I suggest the Raiders, that way we can have some fun.

  202. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Grump – It’s a bad philsophy, though. Maiocco just wrote a Baalke apologist article stating that Baalke drafts a year or two out. And I get it from Baalke’s perspective. You’re basically red shirting a guy and in some cases legitimately giving him time to heal while other cases you create an injury and hold onto him through the IR loophole. You also give guys time to acclimate. But there’s a problem with the philosophy. Actually, there are numerous problems.

    First off, with the rookie salary cap drastically decreasing the pay of players in years 1-4, it behooves all teams to try and start those players asap to get maximum starter value (ie Russell Wilson). Another problem is the Marcus Lattimore scenario where you don’t know if the guy will ever return to his normal self once healthy.

    But Baalke’s last problem with his philosophy is his biggest – and that’s when the team has holes that need to be filled now, but Baalke can’t fill them because of his drafting philosophy. In 2015, the 49ers have a ton of holes and Baalke hasn’t filled those holes. When your team isn’t complete, your roster is lacking, teams attack weaknesses and you lose. It’s not rocket surgery.

  203. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I think it’s a little more clear why the Niners drafted Eli.

  204. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Who knows? RayMac may go back under the bus.

  205. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Winder – I’ve always enjoyed your comments as well, dating back in the days of the Chron. I’ve been recently leaning towards the Raiders because of Mark Davis’ bowl cut. Only the son of Al Davis believes that’s his best option. Plus, I’m interested to see what ole Ken Norton does with their defense, and I’ve always liked Reggie McKenzie even though he’s got the impossible job of turning around the Raiders’ culture. I also do like Greg Pappa’s “TOUCHDOWN RRRRRRRRAIDASSSSS.”

  206. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Spit- The Raiders actually have a shot with that division. If I remember we were both in the: i want to fish-gut Alex Smith fab club. Good times.

  207. winderNo Gravatar says:


  208. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I saw Carr last year in preseason and that was my guy. He is a franchise QB. I can play the sympathy card as well. His father had the distinction of playing behind the single worst O-line in the history of the NFL with the expansion Texans. He didn’t have a prayer.

  209. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:


    The 49ers are a damn mess. I don’t believe in Karma, but this is Karma for treating the second best head coach in the history of the organization like chopped liver. And even if Brooks lands on the moon, Eli Harold (to borrow a term from Del) stinks on ice.

  210. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    RT – What a second… David Carr is Derek Carr’s father? Who knew?

  211. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:


  212. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Kinda like George Foreman naming all eight of his sons George. Or not…

  213. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Happy 84th Willie!!!!

    Say hey!

  214. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I thought the QBing Carrs were brothers.

  215. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like someone looking for a payday. Gloria Allred?!? Yeah, that’s not a criminal case, it’s a payday case.

    How did she know she was groped if she was out?

  216. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    This is the girl who stayed two days in RayMac’s house and then said she was raped?

  217. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Ooops. That’s what you get for assuming. Geez he’s about a hundred years older than Derek – kinda like my family.

  218. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – They are brothers. I was just having fun with RT.

    The Brooks / McDonald case is simple. They were at McDonald’s house. All her evidence is based off what she thinks is a surveillance video tape that was being recorded at McDonald’s house, and almost certainly owned by McDonald. If Old McDonald and Brooks did anything wrong, and McDonald was dumb enough to record himself while partying, that tape is long, long gone. It’s burned, shredded, destroyed – seven times over…. if there ever was a tape to begin with. If she’s hoping to subpoena the tape, that’s laughable. If TMZ is claiming they have a tape, and it’s McDonald’s surveillance tape, I doubt it but if it’s true, McDonald and Brooks are the two dumbest human being ever recording themselves and allowing the tape to get into someone else’s hands. It’s more likely TMZ has video of someone holding a phone showing 49er players groping a woman, but even then it’d be out already…. I would think.

    ~ The San Francisco 49ers: One hot mess ~

  219. winderNo Gravatar says:

    spit- I don’t see the Niners being in anymore of a mess than they were last year.

  220. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Winder – Oh yeah? No Borland, Willis, Culliver, Cox, Skuta, Smith, Iupati – a whole new coaching staff with coordinators who are suspect and a HC who’s never been a coordinator…. a GM who’s not filling the immediate holes but drafting for 2020? And even though Harbaugh is gone, you still have the same owner who will undermine the head coach or anyone else for that matter in the media the minute things go sideways. Oh, and wait for the losses to pile up. You think your team is a hot mess right now. Just you wait until the remaining fans realize Jed and Trent are boobs on ice. Then things will really get hot messy.

  221. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Jeez, Winder, you didn’t mention you have cataracts also.

  222. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Beta blockers and cataracts? Dude’s a mess….

  223. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    I honestly think Jed York is delusional. I’m not kidding. Here are his recent comments when apart of a panel of Bay Area sports owners. My god…. “We’re looking at how many championships we can win….” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Like none?

    “You have to make sure your guys feel like they’re going to be a part of it for a while,” York said. “And with Trent, I watch it when we draft. Trent will always trade for next year’s picks because he feels comfortable that he’s going to be here.

    “And ultimately that’s going to make our business much better. And I think that’s the nice thing about having a private company. You don’t have to worry about the quarterly report. We’re looking at how many championships can we win over a period of time. And when everybody understands that and everybody comes together, more often than not, you’re going to be happy.”

  224. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    “You have to make sure your guys feel like they’re going to be a part of it for a while,” Jed said, as Jim Harbaugh laughed his ass off.

  225. winderNo Gravatar says:

    This why I like this blog, great football minds at work. Or maybe not. Harbaugh folded like an old tent last year but go ahead and blame others.

  226. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Winder – So you’re saying last year Harbaugh controlled the injuries to Iupati, Anthony Davis, Brock, Patrick Willis, Borland, Vance McDonald, Kilgore, Derek Carrier, Carlos Hyde, Brandon Lloyd? Harbaugh controlled Vernon not getting paid? Harbaugh folded like a tent when Deion Sanders attacked him for losing the locker room when nobody proved Deion’s claim but plenty of players came out in support of Harbaugh? And what about the Baalke roster turnover? Look at the roster when the 49ers went to the Super Bowl, and look at the roster last year. Those aren’t Harbaugh issues, but York apologists sure do want to pin them on York. Frankly, I’m impressed Harbaugh went 8-8. (Wouldn’t it be a bitch if Winder was trolling me).

  227. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    * pin them on Harbaugh *

  228. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Was that Harbaugh out there wearing #7? I never thought of that.

  229. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not trolling. I really don’t waste my time like that. However, there is plenty of blame to go around. It just seems a little one sided over here.

  230. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    There’s nothing one sided about the truth, Winder.

  231. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You know you have somebodies attention when they start featuring you in comic strips


  232. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh Bullit those black alternates are hideous.
    Read somewhere that Harbaugh put Kaep in a black jersey to protect him.

    Gotta assume some of the guys thought it was cool?
    Pretty lame IMO.

  233. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – that comic is hilarious. “BOOM! BLUDGEON’D!!! Tomsula looks like half malfia, half WWF wrestler. I love it. They should create one of those weekly. There’s a market for it.

  234. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Referred to as a ‘Guido’ out here, not sure if it’s an accepted slang term everywhere.


  235. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Pats waive Alfonzo Dennard CB and he is claimed on waivers by the Cards.
    It seems that the Niners didn’t make a claim here and Dennard was a starting corner on the Super Bowl Champions.
    Salary was $1.5 mil which is not outrageous for a starting CB and half of what they are paying Shareece Wright who is due to make $2.9 mil.

    If their goal is to win a Super Bowl they need to fortify the CB position and Baalke didn’t draft one CB.

  236. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Gotta assume he’s comfortable with what he’s expecting to get from Acker and Reaser Bullit?

    Ward, Johnson and TBrock should each be ready to go too.

    Not sure what to expect from Cook, Cromartie and McFadden at this point?

    Shareece Wright? Who knows?

    All a big question mark right now, until Camp action starts.

  237. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Offensive play construction. If not successful designing your own plays then steal them. Every team gets detailed video from cameras up in the box for positions and big picture on routes run and how they are defensed. It amazes me that some teams can have consistent bad offenses year after year.

  238. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:


  239. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hmmm, your double-standards are showing again, Bullit.

    Maybe the Niners didn’t like Dennard’s assaulting a cop conviction and resisting arrest. Or the DUI charges that were later dropped on a no contest plea.

    I suppose if they signed him, you’d be bringing this up.

  240. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – Don’t engage Chuck. It’ll drive him insane. That’s what he lives for.

    Just read that Baalke and York took a lot of high risk players off their draft board. Baalke is Terry Donahue. Mark my words. It’s also probably why Baalke let Culliver and Cox get out of town, and I believe Aldon restructured his deal for one last year in SF because Baalke promised not to franchise tag Aldon – which would be another huge, huge Baalke mistake right up there with not franchise tagging Iupati. But the point is that Baalke wants “Lilly white players who go to church on Sunday and play like hell Sunday afternoon.” One word: Mistake. Criminals make better future HOFers. Lawrence Taylor? Charles Haley? Aldon Smith… all bananas. Guys like Reggie White are very rare. You want to take the crazy out of the player, you also then take the game out of the player. I honestly hope York stubbornly keeps Baalke around for years…. and justifies Baalke’s record and continues to see the 49ers in the cellar while doing so.

  241. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Unconfirmed but Cowboys are signing La el Collins OT to a free agent contract. He’s a first round talent and Jerry gets him for minimum wage.

  242. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    I think Jerry’s recently learned from the 49ers two things: An awesome offensive line controls the tempo of the game and takes pressure off the qb…. which Romo needed. AND Jerry’s learned that criminals need to both be drafted and supported (see Hardy). It doesn’t mean Jerry’s gonna win anything, but at the ripe ole’ age of 75? I think Jerry’s learnin’ a few tricks.

    And we should all congratulate Bullit for not taking the Chuck bait. Congratulations Bullit! You’re taking your life back. It’s an important first step.

  243. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    And Jerruhs OLine will be blocking for Run DMc Spit.

    I would also offer you this.
    Aldon might appreciate the fact that Baalke stood talk through all his off field transgressions too.

    Going ‘cheap’ on some Contracts provides the ability to possibly retain Aldon too.

    Find an upside once in awhile.
    You’ll be happier for it.
    Trust me.

  244. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Stood tall…

  245. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Not likely. Some of these guys know more about coaching than the coaches do.

  246. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s funny Winder. You just described most fans.

  247. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Aldon Smith has played in 14 games total in the last 2 years.
    In those 14 games he has 10.5 sacks.
    A lot depends on how he performs this year but it is hard to pay him top dollar because of all the time he has missed.
    This is one you wait on and see what shakes out.

  248. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – I’ll give you an upside: the 49ers are gonna suck for a decade and I get to laugh at Jed while not watching the trash he puts on the field. You mean like that? I agree. I do feel better, thanks.

  249. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Nofear – tru dat, i have been guilty of that myself. But usually after the fact.

  250. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:


    I always like Candlestick and never thought they should leave… although I knew it was a shit hole. Still wish the 49ers were playing there because A.) They’d be in the city. B.) It was a home field advantage. C.) I’ve got a ton of great memories there. D.) Who needs WIFI at a game? I prefer shade. E.) People watching while driving through Hunter’s Point was legit.

    At least the Harbaugh Era, though brief, returned some respect to Candlestick in her final years. Levi Stadium blows.

  251. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    It will be interesting when the cameras pan around a nearly empty stadium during the 4th quarters of “unacceptable” games.

  252. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    David Neumann of Niners Nation has some vids breaking down Armsteads game. Hint = He’s raw


  253. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Agree Bullit.
    Aldon either turns it around for an extension offer or he’ll get overpaid elsewhere.

    I’d be hopeful that he appreciates the support shown in SF and gets himself right.

    Awesome talent, hope he’s our next Haley, for all the right reasons.

  254. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Film breakdown of Eli Harolds game by D Neumann of NN:


    Strengths: quick, fast off the line, outside rusher with some good inside moves. High motor able to help this season

    Weakness: Needs to build up strength to disengage OL blockers

    A steal in 3rd round IMO

  255. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Some have said Aldon is greatly helped by his Smith Bro Justin creating opportunities for him and occupying double teams.
    If Cowboy rides into the sunset it’ll be interesting how effective and productive Aldon will be.
    Yes Aldon has much to prove so this season is pivotal for him.

  256. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    More from my man David Neumann breaking down Blake Bell on NN:


    The Bottom Line per D Neumannn =

    Like seemingly every pick from this draft class, Bell is physically impressive and has a ton of upside. If everything breaks his way, he could become a problem for defenses in the middle of the field and in the red zone while also adding value as a competent run blocker. But unless he develops at an absurd rate, it’s unlikely we’ll see much of that upside in 2015.

  257. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Gotta love those Chicago Bears. Awesome draft filling need positions this season. Got it homers! Kevin White STARTER Eddie Goldman STARTER Grassu Compete with Will Montgomery for STARTER. Vic Fangio DC Ed Donatell DB coach Adam Gase OC names sound familiar. Get ready for top 10 pick, just bear the beat downs for one season. Just put ice on it.

  258. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Too bad Ahmad Brooks not traded yet. What are the odds of him released on June 1. Only 31 but already an unwanted old man. D went from expensive to cheap in a hurry.

  259. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep Spit I would rather have the CHI Coaches any day over ours. Crazy to utterly destroy/replace “all” the coaches. York has such a bone for Tommy he had to flush the entire D staff to get his boy in there.

    That hurts. I have a feeling it’s going to get worst too. Yuck.

  260. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Spit, Jerry also goes for young hookers. So he may have more in common with the criminals than you think. Birds of a feather flock together. Ahmad belongs there.

  261. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17