Wanted: A Few Scary Guys

11-85 is not yet as famous in the Bay Area as 16-80 or 8-80, but a few more years of heroics and a couple of SBs could change that.

Alex Smith to Vernon Davis tied an NFL record for TDs by a TE in 2009 and last year almost double-handedly put the 49ers into the Super Bowl. With the addition of an actual group of NFL quality WRs this year, should we expect 11-85 to diminish in importance … or grow into legendary status?

It doesn’t appear that 11-15 is headed toward Canton. Not at the current pace of courtship. In what appears to be a shotgun wedding, Michael Crabtree keeps ducking the rehearsals. He has now missed five practices and Mario Manningham has … missed three or so himself. Into the breach has stepped Kyle “Rocky” Williams, whose outstanding practices are difficult to ignore.

Last year, nobody knew what Jim Harbaugh’s offense would look like and this year … nobody knows yet again. We’ve added some WRs that almost demand an increase in 3 WR formations, and a corresponding reduction in Delanie Walker time, but the real wringer of intrigue is second round draft choice LaMichael James. With Frank Gore, Brandon Jacobs, and Kendall Hunter already fighting over the lone RB spot, it looks like James will be ticketed for the “third down specialist” role, where it’s hoped he will become the scariest 49er backfield guy the team has ever had.

Harbaugh has anointed all of his WRs as equal in status, but no one in the world believes this blarney one bit. Clearly, Randy Moss is the 49ers new #1 receiver, supplanting Crabtee in this distinction. Whenever the team went to the super power formation with one WR last year, that one wide out was Crabtree. I can’t recall him ever getting targeted, let alone open, for a surprise pass. If that WR is Moss this year, you can bet there will be one less safety in the box on third and one.

Other than that, being the #1 WR doesn’t mean much in the NFL these days. A team’s leading receiver can be a TE or RB or slot receiver as easily as a true numero uno WR. The main ingredient is “fear.” Do secondaries fear any of your guys? Right now, Moss and VD are the only guys the 49ers have that can inspire this dread. Crabtree has the ability, as the number two WR, and AJ Jenkins was drafted towards this need, also. We’ll see.

There’s a Hall of Fame game Sunday between the Cardinals and Saints that might be worth a peek or two. The first peek is for “Hey! It’s a football game!” And the second peek is to see Kevin Kolb throw his first interception of the new year. But the real hometown peek fest will begin next Friday. And all our offseason questions will be … replaced with new questions.

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288 comments on “Wanted: A Few Scary Guys
  1. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Its kind of amazing to think, same head coach,same OC, yet its like all new (with great expectations) …. cant hardly wait for this season to start!!!

  2. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    tony- That was good!

  3. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Spread it out and get the ball to LaMichael James in space. Whether it is by running or passing.

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Seveb days until the first preseason game against the Vikes.
    Preseason games are basically
    extended practices done in realtime game format.
    First preseason game starting skill players usually get two series at the most.
    I remember thinking after last year’s preseason opener against the Aints that we might be in for a long year as the Oline looked like crap and they weren’t ready for the NOLA blitzes.

    Turns out preseason wasn’t indicative of things to come in 2011.

  5. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    “There’s a Hall of Fame game Saturday between the Cardinals and Saints that might be worth a peek or two. ”
    What might NOT be worth a peek or two are the replacement refs. It is easy to complain about officiating at times, but there really is a big drop off when you bring in the replacement refs. I hope they get this sorted out.
    The stars seem to be aligning for Moss to be a force as a target, and decoy this year. I’m trying to not get my hopes too high. But I’m failing.

  6. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Moss better become a target, because Michael Crabtree missed today’s practice, and his availability looks questionable for the first preseason game.

  7. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    barley- What a great line, “I’m trying to not get my hopes too high. But I’m failing.” I might steal that one at some time down the line!

  8. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Or your boss will . . .

  9. robNo Gravatar says:


    so which of our WR’s do you guys think will have the most receptions this year ?

    imho it will be crabtree .

  10. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Kyle Williams

  11. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    If he stays healthy and motivated, Moss will dominate. Call that a little smidge better than a 50-50 shot. Otherwise, I’m going to have to say VD will lead the team, and MC the WRs.

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Niner trainer has to clear
    him for practice before he can participate. But let’s make crap up and keep taking cheap shots.


    Harbaugh is in cahoots with him.

  13. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- I appreciate that info. Based on what Harbaugh and Smith said, I’m changing my vote to Crabtree. Can I get an order of waffles with that vote!

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    it’s chicken & waffles today, Remember Guy Fieri visited yesterday.
    Here’s the coach

  15. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Another vote: I’ve got 7.2% Arrogant Bastard, 8% IPA 395 and some 8.7% Alpha Dog. I’ve also got a 5th of whiskey. Should I blog tonight or not? I’m thinking unca will be voting no.

  16. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Oh joy, another night of 95 nonsensical bullshit posts from Bergs? Flail away, skippy. Come up with some new schtick though. The old shit is tiresome. And leave the dog alone this time.
    Super Mario has the most receptions this year.
    How about this for a starter Bullit? Since you bring it up for the umpteenth time, what is Harbaugh supposed to say? I can’t get that lazy bastard onto the practice field? JH jumped all over the press for their shit-talking about AJ. Plenty of eye-rolls aroound here for Harbaugh’s overzealousness in AJ’s defense, or Smith’s, or whoever. It’s how he rolls. But when it’s about Crabtree, oh boy, we change our tune immediately. Selective amnesia? Or creative stupidity? You make the call.
    Like I said, I hope he does well. But I don’t think he’s doing what he can to be out there with his teammates. His attitude screams ‘get me the %#$@ out of here.’ It always has.
    I’m sowwy Buwwit. Was I mean to Cwabby? Boo hoo! We wuv aww ouw pwayers! Aww the time!

  17. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Is this the quote of the week? Some guy swimming in the ocean near Boston got bit by a shark. He was either able to kick him off, or as he said of the shark,”maybe he decided I wasn’t tasty.”

  18. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- How about 94 posts about you and one about the dog!

  19. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Oops- The Alpha Dog is only 8.5%.

  20. robNo Gravatar says:

    not too sure guys , but i’m thinkin’ it’s pretty clearcut …

    crabs #1
    manningham #2
    moss #3
    williams #4 !

    better than last year as far as i can see !

  21. robNo Gravatar says:

    superbowl anyone ???!!!

  22. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gee, nice to know I have 2 stalkers here. You guys need to find a hobby. Maybe together?

  23. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll put you down for a yes! Thanks for the support.

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Chuck is sounding a lot like V.
    When the coach praises Alex Smith
    that’s what V says. When Joe Montana praises the Niners that’s what V says.
    Anyway shall I refresh your selective memory about how Harbaugh operates.
    Remember fellow Wolvewrine, the guy whose Dad Harbaugth was teammates with?

    We all know he showed Edwards the door even though it left the team very short at WR.

    Remember Chilo last year? He didn;t sugarcoat it with him either

    Taylor Mays anyone?

    Your theory is feeble and has no merit.
    Also don’t be disingenuous when
    you say you hope the best for him
    which is really a load of crap.
    Other people can read your hate filled rants. You insult them to claiming to like him.

  25. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    The latter part of above post is obviously intended for Chuck

  26. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    One 22 oz Alpha Dog Imperial Pale Ale down. On to the Arrogant Bastard.

  27. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Hell, Berger, I’m 100% Arrogant Bastard.
    Wait. You’re talking about beer, aren’t you?

  28. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Is that another yes!

  29. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Was bullit a yes?

  30. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I know rob is a yes. He’s waiting ’til I start on the whiskey to call. Then he’ll mention Troy Smith!

  31. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Troy Smith coulda been a contenda!

    In the Arena League. Maybe.

  32. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    rob loves it when I yell at him. I can never figure that one out. But in the end we both laugh hard. I think I got him laid one night. I told him to put his girl friend on the and gave her instructions on what to do. She did as told. The next thing I know the phone call was over. Go rob!

  33. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    ROTFLMAO… That’s great.

  34. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I noticed nobody made a comment about 11-85! Some threads are hits, and some are misses. The next thread should be about how to get rob laid again!

  35. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- Leave your Ph# at fortyninerberger@yahoo.com . I’ll give you a call. Put your wife or girl friend on the phone. Let us see where this relationship is at. The questions are fairly direct. You will either lose the relatiponshp or get laid. Dinner at the Bergers could happen, though doubtful, but no sex. I,m not intersted in your date.

  36. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- My services are free, but I’m only kidding. If you call I’m working with my brain tied behind my back(isn’t that somebody else’s quote?). Laughter is what is the call of the day. BTW, any of you yahoos can leave your Ph#. Just don’t ask for another bloggers number. I will never give it out without previous permission.

  37. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shit, not the return of the love berger? Noooooo . . . !
    You mean Rob couldn’t seal the deal with his own girlfriend?
    Poor buwwit got his feewings huwt. Don’t know what you posted, but it looks like you worked hard on it. I’m sure no one bothered looking . . .

  38. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- Call and and put your wife on the phone. You’ll have instant something. Either a divorce or mad sex. No in between! Trust me, and I don’t want to be in between. I’m just looking for love and happiness between couples, or grief. This in-between stuff is bullshit. LB (the Love Berger) strikes again!

  39. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Pence finally got a hit!

  40. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Here is what wifey is playing on DVD in the other room. It sounds good from here.

  41. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No problems here, Bergs. My wife is very satisfied.

  42. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Besides, everybody yells at ROB!!!!!!!!!

  43. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    OMG… I think maybe not, Bergs… think I can handle that myself, LMAO.
    I’m gonna break a rib here laughing.
    Rob’s a good guy. But I still laugh at Spitblood’s rant about the squirrel beating Rob at checkers.

  44. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- The coyotes around here are awesome at checkers. Come to think of it, so are the squirrels, prairie dogs, horses, rabbits, bears, mountain lions, bobcats and deer. We get overhead shots from the eagles, hawks owls, canadian geese and bluebirds. What is a human to think?
    I actually had a hawk dive bomb me one day. I think he was just having a little fun. I know I was having fun. I just love animals.

  45. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- rob is small case.

  46. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Uh oh. Is that why rob couldn’t finish the deal?

  47. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    One Alpha Dog and two Arrogant Bastards down. On to the IPA 395. This could be my new favorite beer. 8% gets one’s attention immediately. But this IPA is a double IPA, whatever that means, but it sounds good. What I love is the taste of sage brush and juniper berries. It tastes like it smells at my house after a rain. SOLD!

  48. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Holy moley, NJ was right, as usual. This new Joe Bonamassa CD is all that. I’m having a hard time listening to something else.

  49. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- Is rob Finish? I thought he was Foridian. You know, that stuff that gets on your teeth from the water supply!
    Fuk rob, where is he at? I’m calling him to let him know we are talking about him.

  50. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not sure which wide receiver will have the most receptions, each one for a different reason or doubt, and therein lies the rub. There should be no doubt. Our first found pick in his prime years coming into his 4th season should be the standout.

    Now maybe he figures it out because of Moss teaching him what’s up or whatever and fulfills his end of the bargain which would be great to see.

    Berger, being reasonably newlywed I am not in need of your love whispering either.

  51. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Oh shit, I can’t call him, he’s changed his phone number again. I guarantee I’ll hear from him tomorrow. rob, put your girl friend on the phone, I can help!

  52. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No, Bergs. Rob Is Russian. That’s another problem . . .

  53. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’m drinking Newcastle’s Summer Ale. Weird, but it’s growing on me. Their Founder’s Ale was awesome, but I haven’t seen it since St Paddy’s day.

  54. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th man- If you called I would be the 2nd man! Just take the 1 off the front of your moniker! Voila! But it would have to be a long distance relationship. The Love Berger is a one woman man and I’m married. I just help others out of love for others! Are you an “other”. LOL

  55. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- Please go try an IPA 395 and tell me what you think. It is from Mammoth Brewery.
    You showin’ for Thackery at Squaw on Tuesday? He’s playing in Loomis a couple days later for 15 dollars. Easy decision for me. Squaw is less than an hour and free, Loomis is a little over two hours and 15 dollars.

  56. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shit. Loomis is closer to me.

    Gotta check that out.


  57. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Oh, well. That’s Friday. I’m going camping.

  58. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- Speaking of camping, do you wear you underwear backwards? If so, Spitty will show you how to fish on the dark side of the moon. He’s a good fisherman!

  59. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Spitty’s name is deceiving, he doesn’t spit at all. guest has reported the truth.

  60. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m on my 2nd IPA 395. I’m going to bed after this beer. I tried to be an ass hole, but it is just so much pressure. Unca, take over. I’ll stay for a while but I’m wearing out.

  61. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    It was the best of times, it was the worst of times . . . for Michael Crabtree.

  62. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    When beer is this good and strong, who needs whiskey! Maybe if I had some cocaine, but I haven’t been that stupid since 1995. Ain’t never going back. What the hell was I ever thinking. Live life, love life, learn life. Just know, rehab this, rehab that, no one ever truely quits until they decide they have had enough. Forcing somebody to quit is only temporary.

  63. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Anybody see the picture of Gabby Douglass on Bing? Maybe the most eloquent picture ever of an athlete. It just makes me proud. I tried to download it for you guys but I guess I’m not smart enough.

  64. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Respect, Don’t Fear, the ‘Blade Runner’FOX: Oscar Pistorius will become the first amputee track athlete to compete in the Olympics. People are uncomfortable with this. Here’s why they shouldn’t be.
    Profile: South Africa’s inspiring PistoriusTips for training like a champion.

    Enter the Athletic World of Gabby Douglas .

  65. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry about the previous post. It didn’t make sense because it didn’t make sense. I’m trying to get Gabby’s picture to you. I didn’t do so well.

  66. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Anybody ever wonder why women don’t go topless in America? Easy answer. They don’t want to be topless. They spend so much money to fake us males out, who thinks they want us to see the real thing? Between silicone and tissue paper, how could us guys keep a hard on if we knew the truth? (I can actually answer that, but I’ll move on) Men spend too much money on silicone and tissue paper for women to need to charge for the real thing. The good news is there is a lot of real women in this country. They don’t need to to topless. It is just a shame they don’t have the choice. If they did my head would be lopsided from my wife hitting it! That is a fair trade.

  67. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, I’ll have a negra modelo in your honor. Damned if Ill try to catch up tonight though – it’s getting late tonight.
    Here is a try at gabby for you, Bergs. Hell of a kid.

  68. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- That is the picture I was talking about. Thanks!

  69. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of the Olympics I was watching the Women’s 100M dash prelims last night.
    Carmelita Jeter is the favorite and beat the women in her heat by almost .5 seconds. I’m sure it’s training and hard work but she is one buff woman and I wish my arms looked like that. Comparing her to her competition she looks like a dude. Having Barry Bonds flashbacks.

  70. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Hope you’re feeling OK this morning.
    Chuck and V post using the same playbook and tactics.
    When flustered with no possible rebuttal they come up with this
    “Poor buwwit got his feewings huwt. Don’t know what you posted, but it looks like you worked hard on it. I’m sure no one bothered looking . . .”

    Yep when flummoxed Chuck is dismissive and deflects which is out of character because he’s alway trying to steamroll you
    and get in the last word.

    Chuck said 2 people were stalking him. So who’s the other guy you or rob?

  71. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Must be me but haven’t seen me stalking anybody.

  72. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I feel great. I laid off the whiskey! rob hasn’t called yet. He’s probably busy selling Bonsai trees.

  73. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Grow a sense of humor, Bullit. Criminy.

    Deflect? Everyone here feels varying degrees of how I feel about Crabs. Don’t like it? Waah! You think Bergs is coming to your rescue?

  74. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    About the picture of Gabby from above. There is a better shot. It is the same picture but the balance beam is shown below. It shows just how high she gets. I think the one with the beam showing just puts one in awe.

  75. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I’m having this discussion with you and you keep trying to pull everyone else in on this because you can’t stand up on your own.
    That’s what I have witnessed
    People just need to look at all your posts to see that.
    You do not speak for others here.
    I understand if you can’t handle the one on one.
    One moment you’re saying you want Crabtree to succeed and that’s just after you say you want his sorry ass to go to Dallas so he can get drilled by Whitner.
    Are you playing both sides here?

    Still not answering questions and deflecting? Trying to weasel out?

  76. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    STALKER!!! You are the one trying to drag Bergs into this. And dissing Grumpy for sharing my opinion.
    Looks like Mike Florio has been reading my blog. He’s mirroring exactly what I say regarding Crabs losing the starting job if he keeps missing practice. Hey, all he has to to is PRACTICE! Get it? Please get it. I’m tired of your ignorance on this sunject.
    Good God. you are pathetic. IF he comes to camp and works with his team, I give him all the support (who really givers a f&^%?) he should get. If he misses another camp with these ‘injuries’ then he should hit the highway.He WILL lose his starting spot if he blows through another practiceless camp.
    Get a life, skippy.

  77. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Put it this way. Do you think Crabs deserves a starting spot if he misses this preseason?

  78. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    It doesn’t matter what I think, you think or Florio thinks.
    It’s up to the coach and he said something yesterday you didn’t want to hear and didn’t like.
    You keep repeating the same shit ad nauseum just like V.

    So stop whining and deal with it.

  79. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You are also taking this whole Crabtree thing personal and making it personal. All of a sudden I’m pathetic and a bad person because I have a different opinion than you?
    Harbaugh said yesterday Crabtree
    will be back soon.
    You want to play this game what if he doesn’y come back? He pulled a calf muscle and is running on a side field.
    You might be the only person on this blog that thinks he’s going to miss the entire preseason.
    But then again you are the only person that didn’t realize he had foot surgery before the 2011 training camp. How did you miss that?

  80. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, this whole thing boils down to frustration of Crabs lack of practice. You can defend his injuries real or otherwise and offer reasons or excuses for his now 4 years of behaviour, fellow players calling him out for dogging it, poor game performances, not living up to draft status etc, because you like the player.

    But to not see others point of view that many have about him seems obtuse to me.

    He is talented and does contribute, that’s factual, but many people feel its below what he is capable of and his attitude reeks, although there are signs he is getting a clue lately and maybe its just bad timing for him to get injured whilst he is actually trying harder. In some sense he has become the boy who cried wolf and now there’s naturally doubt about his injury.

    Chuck’s assessment of Crabs is the harshest I’ve read on this blog and I doubt he gets benched, but I think Crabs needs a wake up call like Vernon got.

    Pointing to Harbaugh’s support of his player is a bit pointless since he never offers negative comments about his players, hardly an impartial opinion. To use the “the coach knows best” defense is lame. We are all here to exactly question the coach, players, owners, league with our opinions, if we blindly follow coaches proclamations we would still be crying about Singleneuron. Coaches are frequently mistaken, hence getting fired.

    Harbaugh seems to have a handle on this coaching gig, but his public pronouncements are next to worthless.

  81. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    No, Bullit. You are pathetic because you won’t let this go. My opinion of Crabs is a valid one, and it is shared by many in and out of the press corps. Like 12th said, I may be a little harsher than most, but BFD. This is a blog, not the New York Times. It’s my opinion. And the truth of tha matter is if he keeps missing practices, he’ll fall down the depth chart. Guaranteed.
    Say Crabs practices tomorrow. I know what your reaction will be. One of your usual lengthy bullshit posts blah blah blah blah blah in your face yadda yadda yadda.
    My reaction will be hey, better late than never. That’s not changing my opinion in any way. Until he actually practices, I reserve my judgement of him. He has PROVEN to not be in synch with his QB. He was te one talking shit about Alex. Doing this during the season hasn’t really worked out, regardless of the numbers.
    These are facts and opinions. Don’t like it? Boo hoo. Foot surgery? Who cares? He practices with college QBs and other guys for 3 weeks before shoe-gate. Why didn’t he work with Alex then, when the rest of the offense was training with him? Hmmmmmm? Oh yeah, he was protecting himself. Oooops.
    Do you think you’ll change my mind? Are you that naive? Even if he has a great year, my feelings about him now are valid. Sorry. Grow up, skippy.

  82. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Notice please, Bullit, that in NONE of these posts do I ever say that I WANT him to miss practice. That’s your own prejudice popping out. It is his actions I base my opinions on. You might want to try that sometime.

  83. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    12th man

    See what I posted at 6:23pm last night and I have provided evidence
    how Harbaugh deals with players he doesn’t think are cutting it.
    I left it at wait and see a long time ago but others can’t let it go.
    To me this is petty BS because it’s week one of training camp and people strain muscles and get hurt. I am tired of reading half truths such as Chuck saying last year Crabtree was faking his injury when he had foot surgery.
    The guy is getting getting paid millions of dollars. He is not some chump calling in sick for a mental health day.
    I will repeat this again. You really must think Harbaugh, Baalke, the 49er doctors and trainers are stupid if they are taking Crabtree’s word for his injuries. When they put a screw in your foot with surgery there are mris, xrays and medical charts. That was 2011 and to this day Chuck thinks it never happened.
    Most likely medically Crabtree is the second most scrutinized player in the NFL next to Peyton Manning.
    As I’ve said before I am just responding in kind here.

  84. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Just my luck the second most scrutinized player medically speaking is still here and the most scrutinized guy ends up in Denver. Oh the humanity of it all…

  85. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Thx for the reply Bullit, the issue with 2011 is not doubt that he had foot surgery, its doubt about his offeseason workouts that lead to TC injuries. You may have noticed Crabtree being applaud this year for coming into TC in much better condition than previous years, such as 2011 for instance. That leads one to believe he has been less than professional in his preparedness in prior years, something that definately cause injuries.

    He also chose to abstain from camp Alex, something very hard to equate with the concept of QB/WR cohesiveness.

    Lets be honest, a 10th overall pick is going to get more slack than say a corner back like Spencer. I get a sense that they have given him a come to Jesus conversation since his conditioning is described as the best of his career. As I said before, maybe its just bad timing for him to be injured when he is trying but its certainly a “throw our hands up” moment for the fans.

    I have sympathy with Chuck and the other guys who are fed up with these ongoing and repeated shennanigans. I am too.

  86. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry, I meant to address, the team has far less invested in Edwards than Crabtree so not an apples to apples comparison, ditto Spencer.

    Crabtree has to do more to exhaust the coaches patience before real consequences will happen.

  87. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    12th man

    All the criticism of Crabtree is
    from last season and beyond.
    Why are we still talking about his holdout and what happened in 2011.
    I can show you video of Harbaugh and Alex Smith making very positive comments about Crabtree. That is in stark contrast to 2 years ago when AS said no comment, you’ll have to ask Crabtree.

    I mentioned it but you forget how fast they got rid of Taylor Mays
    and for a 7th rd pick. He was a high #2 draft choice.
    I’m all ears to hear something negative about Crabtree that has happened since OTAs and minicamp.
    Provide that and I’ll re-evaluate.

  88. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Blah blah blah, Bullit. Hpow many team-run practices has Crabs made it through?

  89. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    that’s my beef. Get over it. PLEASE.

  90. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You act like these are all isolated incedents. And hey, maybe they are. He held out. He decided not to practice with the team last year when he had the chance. My take is he isn’t being a team player. Capise?
    Shut it already. Or go on. Keep tilting at windmills, Dox Quixotic.

  91. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    There you go again. My problems with Crabs are for his entire 49er career. Not the parameters you artificially inject.

  92. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Your usual mature response to a point you can’t counter.
    Can you acknowledge he had foot surgery
    Check this out. You let blind hatred skew the truth. You said that Crabtree missed a bunch of Alex Smith workouts in 2011 before “Shoegate”.
    Tim Kawakami will tell you he was there on the first day.
    Why do you keep distorting the truth? I’d be embarassed if I were you.

  93. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Good point about Mays Bullit, a closer comparison, however Crabtree has been retained because his ceiling is potentially higher than Mays who was drafted too high in retrospect, as was Crabtree.

    I agree its Crabtree’s history that’s at issue, precisely at issue and now currently he is being doubted again by the local and national press and fans and I think that’s entirely justified.

  94. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Its the weeks of QB/WR practice before Alex pulled the other players in that Crabtree didn’t attend bullit.

  95. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I think I’ve covered this groung as far as I’m going to now. I earnestly hope he gets back to practice soon and it shows in game days.

  96. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    12th man

    You can apply that premise to a lot of guys. People are still doubting Alex Smith and were skeptical about Moss.
    A lot of people felt the same way about Vernon Davis. They wanted him traded because he was a bust
    using the 6th pick and he had done nothing to justify his draft position in 3 years. Sound familar? Check out what happened in year 4. Can you imagine this team without him?
    The Bengals have been really good
    to the Niners by giving up on players too soon. They let Garrison Hearst, Justin SAmith and Ahmad Brooks walk.
    I believe in Harbaugh and I thjink he can get the most out of his players.

  97. robNo Gravatar says:

    ok , here’s a player i’ve liked ever since we drafted him ! it’s good to see that we have coaches here who are good enough know which players are good AND get the most out of them when !

  98. robNo Gravatar says:

    maybe crabs can learn something from t. brown ?

  99. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Ohh you drew me back in Bullit, OK, one last at bat cause I’m off the local sports bar to watch tonight’s UFC.
    You are making my argument most eloquently, VD at that point in his career deserved the doubts he raised, it was his sending to the showers and public humiliation that woke him up and he got serious about his job. I hope for the same with Crabtree.

    Alex and Moss both have doubts about them as of right now and that’s justified. Does Moss have anything left? Can Alex handle more responsibility in the passing game?

    I am with you about Harbaugh, so far so good. His public statements aren’t worth a damn but who cares as long as the team continues to play like last season.
    Have a good evening.

  100. robNo Gravatar says:

    well , i was just going to post all the happy news about how good alex smith and our offense have looked so far … until i read this !


  101. robNo Gravatar says:

    12th MAN

    is right ! vernon got set on the straight and narrow by getting some good old fashioned motivation ! (never forget btw who the head coach responsible was !)

    imho the point is that vernon davis always had the ability … it was just the putting his focus on the right things that turned vernon around !

    i’m pretty confident that pretty much everybody on this team INCLUDING crabtree at least have what it takes talent-wise !

    not so confident about moss however !

  102. robNo Gravatar says:

    today BTW is the big day !!!

  103. robNo Gravatar says:

    good to see manningham and brooks looking so good ! imo both are great additions for us over the last year or two !

  104. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    rob- I, and we, were talking about you last night. Call me.

  105. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Crabtree is practicing. He is just not involved in team practices. He is running with the trainer on the field next to the team drills. I do believe, but I can’t say I don’t have reservations. I see him as a good weapon if we can develop a rhythm with him.

  106. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    The point for me is, he and Alex are only going to develop a real rapport by getting reps together in practice. Whether you blame Crabtree or not, his unavailability in every TC has kept that from happening.
    It takes a lot to Wally Pipp a tenth overall pick, and I doubt it happens here, but we do have some other talented WRs in camp, getting all the reps.

  107. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And how do they develop a rhythm, Bergs? Exactly! Crabs has done plenty of practice, but last year he chose not to practice with the team. To the detriment of the team. When he finally came, his shoes attacked him.
    VD caught shit because of sll the unsportsmanlike penalties and posing he would do on 8 yard receptions. VD was fighhting with teammates in practice. Dumb stuff.
    Sing dressed him down and straightened him out. One of the few good things to come out of the Singletary era.
    Alex? Unbeknownst to many, despite the wins and losses in 2010, his numbers got nuch better once Jimmy Hat was forced to retire. He’s imcrementally gotten better, when healthy, as his career has progressed.
    Crabs? Get through some practices, shut your mouth, and produce.
    Rob, THIS is the time to struggggle. Not the 3rd quarter of the Green Bay game. I ain’t worried at this point.

  108. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Didn’t see yers, Grump.

  109. robNo Gravatar says:

    hey CHUCK

    here’s the real question … where’s your alex smith jersey nowadays !?

    still thinking about sending it to me if i send you a nice cheap bottle of vodka in return ?

  110. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    It’s off the garage floor, and currently residing in the closet with my Matt Williams jersey.

  111. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    They are just friends . . .

  112. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Nope, ROB. Alex is on his belated way to the HOF.

  113. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    “Crabs has done plenty of practice, but last year he chose not to practice with the team. To the detriment of the team. When he finally came, his shoes attacked him.”

    What part of having foot surgery and screws being put in your foot
    don’t you understand when it happened last year?

    Yeah to the detriment of the team.
    Last year was horrible. The team went 13-3, won the NFC West in a runaway, made the playoffs for the first time in 10 years, won their first playoff game since 1998 and made it into The NFC Championship Game that went into OT.
    You are so right with your laserlike focus that it was all Crabtree’s fault or as you so eloquently put it “to the detriment of the team”. While you’re at it let’s blame the shitty economy on Crabtree.

  114. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    John Brodie has to make the HoF first. Since Alex is trying to basically recreate a modern version of Brodie’s career path.
    Of course, Brodie *deserves* to be in the HoF IMHO.

  115. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Read this, Bullit. It is the last time I respond to your incessant blather:. This was written Jun 8th, 2011.Previous to this was Crabs talking shit about Alex. “QB? Who’s the QB?”
    Last week, Smith seemed to take a shot at Crabtree in an interview with the San Jose Mercury News when he was asked about Crabtree’s absence from workouts.
    “Great question,” Smith told the newspaper. “Asking the wrong guy, honestly.”
    Crabtree told the San Francisco Chronicle he was doing the same things his teammates were doing, just in another setting and with college players.
    “Routes, every day,” Crabtree told the Chronicle. “I do just what they have been doing here. At a park. Nice field. It’s in the mountains, too.”
    Notice the line ‘absense from workouts.’ Crabs was not working out with the team. He wasn’t working with Alex. He wasn’t hurt. He was practicing with college players in a different location.The DAY he went to the Alex minicamps is when his shoes attacked him.
    What does that tell you? Actually I don;t want to know. Why? Because Crabs had his opportunity to work out with Alex and the rest of the offense, and he CHOSE to skip them and work out on his own.
    Crabs had 5 catches for 28 yards in the playoffs. What does that tell you?

  116. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    True dat. Brodie is about the only guy out there who was showered in as much animosity and outright hatred than one Alex Smith.

  117. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shut it, Bullit. QB that is.

  118. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If Brodie had made the Super Bowl he would be in. His numbers are a little better than Namath’s.

  119. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Well I had a good night at the bar, watched some decent MMA and come home to see we are still playing nice in the sand box.

    Berger, 5.57, agreed, I still believe too but its wearing thin.

    Grumpy, 6.10, my thoughts exactly.

    Bullit, yes the team did well last year no question. Crabs underachieved and his lack of rapport with Alex goes a long way in explaining that problem. Yes I know he led all receivers but that’s by default and is hardly a ringing endorsement of Crabtree. Like it or not he needs to produce more and he ain’t gonna do that running sprints next to the real practice field.

    I think your flogging a dead horse my friend even though I understand your point of view, to argue he has earned his coin so far is a heck of a stretch.

    I think I speak for most here in that we all wish Crabtree greater success and have a belief that can be this year but he isn’t making much progress rehabing yet another injury.

    Chuck, you are basically right, is it important to convince Bullit of that?

  120. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    12th man

    My point all along has been how do you practice when you have a legitimate injury and why would you hold it against the guy?
    It’s all about perception.
    What I get is Crabtree’s detractors all think he’s ducking
    practice, faking injury.
    I’m sure most people remember this incident from last year’s
    training camp involving Trent Baalke.
    Last year this was a big deal because the Niners were scared they might forfeit a draft pick or at least get fined.

  121. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, if it were as simple as that nobody would have a problem with it.

    I disagree that we are all somehow deluded by perception, Crabtree has without doubt systematically ducked his responsibility to train and practice to the standards of a professional football player. Now maybe your right that he is genuinely trying hard this year and is injured, but he is now a victim of his own less than stellar practice history and people are tired of this schtick.

    Once he is seen to be in camp and practicing with his team mates, gaining a rapport with Alex whom I believe needs all the practice he can get with his primo receivers then maybe he gets a little slack from the press and fans, but up until now he doesn’t deserve any benefit of the doubt.

    I’m sorry if you don’t agree but that’s my opinion.

  122. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Th second part to this is that its not only confined to practice and TC, he has not lived up to his status as a #10 pick. At some point he should stop believing the hype and start producing commensurate to his status. He has certainly not delivered as of yet at that level.

    Practice does not make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect. No practice makes a playernsurviving on talent alone, something he has now done for 3 years and its enough already.e

  123. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:


  124. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I feel like Al Pacino in the Godfather III.
    Read this, Bullit:
    Last week, Smith seemed to take a shot at Crabtree in an interview with the San Jose Mercury News when he was asked about Crabtree’s absence from workouts.
    “Great question,” Smith told the newspaper. “Asking the wrong guy, honestly.”
    Crabtree told the San Francisco Chronicle he was doing the same things his teammates were doing, just in another setting and with college players.
    “Routes, every day,” Crabtree told the Chronicle. “I do just what they have been doing here. At a park. Nice field. It’s in the mountains, too.”
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    What part of ABSENCE FROM WORKOUTS don’t you get? Did Crabs have the 49er playbook? No. Alex did. Crabtree was practicing with college players while Alex Smith ran the first of his minicamps.

  125. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Today is International Beer Day!

  126. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, did you get your invite for the yahoo FF?
    I did my best to screw that up royally this morning.

  127. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    An extraordinary revelation about
    one of less heralded key Niners

  128. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Need to make a comment on a couple os staements made that need clarification.
    One was that Crabtree had 5 catches in the playoffs which was labelled a failure. What was left out was he scored a TD against the Aints in a 4 point victory. I’d call that a key contribution.
    The other statement that he led all receivers on the Niners BY DEFAULT to me is laughable and shows bias. Leading a team in a certain stat is the same for every team. It means there’s nobody better on those teams.
    Crabtree caught one more pass than all the other Niner wide receivers combined. Also it should be noted that the Niners attempted the second fewest passes in the entire NFL so their receiving numbers would be lower than the pass happy teams.
    Those are the facts.

  129. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Morgan out injured, Edwards out injured and not very effective when he was available. Both those receivers were expected to contribute significantly and didn’t, ergo Crabs by default.

    Perhaps Crabs would have led the team anyway but that’s all coulda, shoulda, woulda.

    No one is disputing he has talent Bullit, the negative points being made are valid, why are you so intent on pushing this ball uphill?

    7 or is it 8 days I can’t keep track, missed so far starting on day 1, you don’t agree press and fans have reason to complain given he has NEVER had a single days practice in TC going on 4 years now?

    I find your position hard to fathom.

    The guy has not lived up to his draft status, do you agree with that statement?

  130. robNo Gravatar says:

    WOW ! berger and all

    just found out was intl. beer day on my facebook (because i’m ‘friends’ with giuness lol)! going to celebrate with a couple guiness drafts !
    … then back to the cheap vodka !

  131. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- I went on and registered. The Flying Romans are currently 0-0 and tied for 1st place!

  132. robNo Gravatar says:


    my problem with crabtree is this …
    imo he’s either dogging it every camp, or he’s really been hit hard by his foot injuries !
    either way it’s really bad news for us ! it makes our picking him 10th in rd. 1 look like a mistake !
    we can only hope caution is being used in preseason ! the good news is , and correct me if i’m wrong , crabs has managed to stay pretty healthy during the regular season !?

    i for one think he will be our leading WR this season and have a breakout year !

  133. robNo Gravatar says:


    great news for any 9ers fan !

    Randy Moss had his best practice of training camp. He beat Tarell Brown twice in one-on-one drills. The first time he turned Brown around on a double move, and the second time he beat Brown deep down the middle of the field but Alex Smith overthrew the pass. In an 11-on-11 red zone drill, Moss beat Carlos Rogers and caught a high Smith pass for a touchdown. Moss looked like the best offensive player in practice today.

    Reserve nose tackle Ian Williams dominated the second team offensive line at times. On one play in an 11-on-11 live hitting goal line drill, Williams pushed backup center Daniel Kilgore five yards back, right into the ball carrier – Anthony Dixon.

  134. robNo Gravatar says:

    and this one is just for my buddy DELMARDENNIS !



  135. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    12th man

    My motivation to defend Crabtree is you can’t fault a guy for being LEGITIMATELY hurt.
    If you read the beat writer’s reports he’s been working out with a trainer for the past several days at practice running sprints and yesterday he started making cuts.
    It’s not like they gave him the day off. The first game is exactly 5 weeks away.
    If we were 1 or 2 weeks away I’d start to worry.
    To me injuries happen and now the question is whether you think he’s injured. I happen to think he is and am glad it’s just a pull.

  136. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Rob you are correct, his in season health has been exemplary, the exact opposite of his pre season health and that’s been the case for 3 seasons and is continuing into his 4th, an amazing statistic within itself.

    I expect him to be as good as last year. Until I see his in game awareness improve he won’t be having a Breakout year and his missing TC yet again is doing nothing to improve his rapport with Alex which is sorely needed. Its one thing to make the most catches but another to make the most of those catches, meaning YAC and taking it to the house home runs.

    My theory is that he has felt Alex is not a good enough QB for his talents to shine so his effort has been lacking. Since Alex had a better year and Harbaugh is a considerably better coach Crabs has gotten himself into better physical shape according to Harbaugh. Disclaimer for Bullit: I have no evidence or links to support this theory, it is solely based upon my own observations, feel free to form your own theory, results may vary.

    I think Moss has inspired him somewhat which makes this latest pre season injury perplexing. He needs reps, badly, to up his in game production.

  137. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    During the regular season all 4 of the other Niner receivers each missed more games than Crabtree.
    What’s going on here is a big deal being made about a minor injury in the first week of training camp.
    I’ve asked for any evidence that’s CURRENT during the OTA’s and minicamp where any coach or player has said Crabtree has been dogging it. Still waiting on that.
    The reason why I’m playing hardball is everything I’ve read
    he’s worked hard in the offseason and is in the best shape he’s been as a pro.

  138. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Well that’s the crux really Bullit, legitimate injuries only happen to this guy in pre season, what’s the statistical probability of that ?

    You choose to continue to give him the benefit of the doubt, that’s your perogative, I think there’s abundant reason to do the opposite given his history and to believe that he is responsible for his injuries himself by not preparing his body in the off season for the rigours of camp.

    I noticed you didn’t answer my question about him living up to his draft status, I presume you would agree he hasn’t. Prep, practice reps, TC play a large part in that and he is largely responsible for the lack of all of it.

    The lack of sympathy for him is well deserved. Its high time he manned up and got on with being a professional football player.

  139. robNo Gravatar says:


    imho you are on the right track here ! my thing is that as far as i’m concerned , crabs’ best attribute might just be his ability to make things happen after the catch !

    i just hope harbaugh and co. can get him to play like the WR everybody thought he’d be when we drafted him !

    i think he’ll get it done this year ! we have the same system in place for the 2nd year in a row (WOW) , harbaugh as head coach , and a little more talent at WR now ! we also have a full preseason this year ! remeber , last year we had to go without !

    OK i’ll say it !

    49ers are going to the superbowl !!!

  140. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I will give you an example of a professional athelete that get’s paid a lot of money and doesn’t take care of business.
    He’s a baseball player who is always hurt beacuse he’s overweight.
    That would be Pablo “The Panda” Sandoval. All of a sudden his nickname doesn’t seem so cute. His injuries are an end result of his weight.
    He is a prime example of letting your team down.

  141. robNo Gravatar says:

    OOPS 12th man !

    i just responed to you and thought i was talking to BEREGER !

    ( because your avatar is similar to his old one )

    same difference !

  142. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh has gone out of his way last week to paint a picture of Crabs in tip top shape, chomping at the bit to get out there and practice with the team if only he wasn’t injured. Harbaugh is well aware of Crabs history and is doing what he can to deflect the critisism Crabs is getting, as is his won’t, protecting his players and pumping them up.

    I have no way of knowing if its a serious injury or not, I’m just sick of his injuries in TC period.

    And so is most everybody else.

    You don’t get to separate this season from all his others just because that suits your argument, his body of work, or lack of it, is in its totality, not just the bit you like.

    There is a difference between an argument of convictions and being argumentative, I think its getting hard to distinguish one from the other now Bullit so I’m said my piece and you can continue this argument alone if you wish.

  143. robNo Gravatar says:


    imho harbaugh will come through for us !

    crabs will have a breakout year !

    moss will help us bigtime playing alongside crabs and manningham in our three WR set !

    our defense will DESTROY all comers !

    SUPERBOWL here we come !

  144. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    12th man

    The guy that Crabtree will always be compared to is DHB and he’s outperformed him every year.
    The Niners aren’t a pass happy team as I previously said they were 31st in the NFL in pass attempts. Fewer attempts mean lower numbers.
    I enjoy having civil dicussions
    without the insults and the namecalling and definitely no need to get personal.

  145. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Rob, I agree most of the things are in place to allow star athletes to shine which have been largely missing for the last decade. It just needs the star athletes to take advantage of it.

    This team, top to bottom can play with anyone and is built to be that way for 3 years including this one as is.

    We have as much chance as the best teams in the league to win it all and I would even say its probable we will be in the NFC final again. From there who knows but it could be!

  146. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Bull it I appreciate the civility too, I am not one to name call etc, but clearly we have covered the ground and ended up back where we started.

    As an aside I think I read somewhere DHB outperformed Crabs last year but don’t quote. It not in doubt that DHB was a reach, no other team had him even close to 7th, uncle Al did his usual draft craziness.

  147. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Rob I hope your right on all counts.

  148. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Cardinals v Saints starts in 20 minutes, might have to have a glimpse or 2

  149. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Crabtree is following the same path as Vernon Davis minus some of the stupid antics.
    Probably some of the same critics
    questioned being VD being picked 6th overall, his initial work ethic,knowing the routes and the playbook, dropping passes and attitude. I heard a lot of people saying to trade that bust. Now his critics have melted away and are nowhere to be found and probably claiming they believed in him from day one.
    Nobody even criticized him too harshly for his celebration penalty in the playoff game.
    Success makes you forget the good years from the mediocre.

  150. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Meant to say success allows you to seperate the good years from the mediocre which you tend to ignore.

  151. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    “Meant to say success allows you to seperate the good years from the mediocre which you tend to ignore.”

    In reference to what?

    I covered the VD analogy already, it fits my POV better than yours.

  152. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Panda’s an all star (should be 2x. Charlie Manuel screwed him). Panda pulled a hammy playing out of position and he broke his hands getting hit by pitches. How his weight had anything to do with his hamate bones that he had removed is beyond me, skippy.
    In other words, you couldn’t be more wrong about Pablo. How many Pro Bowls had Crabs been to?
    VD, again, was read the riot act. If Sing hadn’t, I would have advocated his being traded. As I did before he got his shit together.

  153. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    12/21 can’t come soon enough.

  154. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Kevin Kolb’s first pass of preseason picked off.”
    Gee, who predicted this?

  155. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    DHB is a non-issue. Al wanted speed. He got it. They can both be busts, or too-high picks. Whatever. Or they can salvage their careers.

  156. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of cool events…do yourself a favor and take 15 minutes from bitchin’ and moanin’ ’bout Maxi Pad, and watch the Mars landing tonight. Scheduled for 10:31 PDT. Talk about needing a 13,000 MPH TD…

  157. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You throw up false arguments and declare Crabs the winner.
    Bully. I ain’t buying. Carry on.

  158. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Kolb shook up, Skelton in, deja vu

  159. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Kolb now with first injury, too. Guy’s consistent.

  160. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Adam Snyder gave up the sack that hurt Kolb.

  161. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Aaaaaahhh the game’s still on. Or they are showing it again? Cool. Went river rafting down the middle fork of the American river. The tunnel chute is crazy. Soeme class V rapids.

  162. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I couldn’t land on Mars if you increased its size to rival Jupiter’s. I’m heading straight to Uranus via the nearest wormhole.
    This is Capt. Dennis blasting off…

  163. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, it’s good to have a guy in the inside.

  164. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Watch out for Nipper’s asteroids, Dennis.

  165. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, you just went river rafting? Funny, I just watched “Deliverance” again on Friday. Fantastic motion picture.
    “I bet you can squeal like a pig. Weeeeeeee!”

  166. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    On this blog its the Seven Minutes of Terror every seven minutes.

  167. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Say, 12th Man. Don’t know if you’re into fantasy football or not, but I run two leagues with all Niner fans. Most of them the knuckleheads you see on the two blogs. Let me know if you’re interested.

  168. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ned didn’t join us this trip, Dennis. How can you watch thaqt move again? It’s a great movie, but it’s too much.

  169. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Grump, that goes for you as well. You probably already declined, and I just forgot why it’s not your cup of tea. But you’re always welcomed if you change your mind…

  170. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis, have you ever been to JPL’s open day for the public? Some cool trick stuff there.

  171. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve never tried FF Dennis but if you can talk me through it I’d give it a go.

  172. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Is it Crabs’s faults that he gets hurt every August? Maybe not.
    Does that matter? Probably not.
    If you were at a biotech firm, and your boss scheduled training every August – teaching new methods and business practices – and you were sick every day of that training several years in a row… how long do you think you’d keep your job? REGARDLESS of whether you really had the flu / food poisoning / malaria / menstrual cramps / West Nile Virus or not. At SOME point, your boss expects you to do your job… or he or she finds someone who will.

  173. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Thank you, Dennis… I probably won’t, but the offer is kind and I appreciate it.

  174. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    It’s kinda fun, until you leave off Gore, he gets you 24 points, and you lose by 2 to Dennis.

  175. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The UFO Coyotes are open and ready for business this year.
    Rob better watch it – he’s got competition now!

  176. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    12th. Rule #1 of FF is don;t listen to Dennis!!

  177. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Well put Grumpy.We

  178. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Hmmm, and who do you suggest as a source of info?

  179. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yoyu don’t have a choice unfortunately.
    I’m kidding . . .
    Sort of. He’s a fine if excentric commissioner

  180. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Just don’t draft the puppy killer. The league will take him away.

  181. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, I’ve seen that film at least a dozen times. I still struggle with exactly what those men were delivered from on their canoe trip. There’s no right or wrong answer in my mind. It’s open to interpretation. That’s what makes the film so powerful in my estimation.
    Deliverance? After countless debates to myself, I always end up with the Lord’s Prayer being the answer… “And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.”

  182. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That’s right, RTF. FOrgot about that. I just wish Dennis could somehow end up with Alex Smith as his QB.

  183. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The Saints have TWO QBs better than anybody on the Tards roster.
    If AZ ever gets a quarterback they could be dangerous.

  184. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I figure Reno should get Alex by default. He picks him every year.

  185. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger’s already giving me shit about my “Sleeper” pick for this year…Matty “Stinks on Ice” Ryan from the Falcons. Berger’s had him the last two years and can’t stand him. I have a sneaky suspicion he’s going to have a really good FF season this year. Call it…


  186. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey! My other video didn’t take. I said, Matt “Stinks on Ice” Ryan is going to have a great year. Call it a hunch…

  187. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Part of the problem with Crabtree has been the same problem for the whole team. Bad coaches and a differnt sytem/coordintor every year.

  188. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- You can have “Stinks On Ice”.

  189. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Kevin Kolb, stick a fork in him?

  190. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th man. It’s easy. You can even let the computor pick your team. I won the league championsahip my 2nd year with a computor picked team. I’ll never forget that I recieved Michael Crabtree one year and he held out until mid season. Jeesh!

  191. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I will do a bit of research but I’m into it, its another way to enjoy the season and to talk crap to each other.

    Tough break getting Crabs on his holdout year though.

  192. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I also remember over half the blog, mostly SFGate, wanting Kolb. When I disagreed I was blasted. Many told me I knew nothing about football. That was good stuff, and how many of those derelicts will admit their views these days? I call those derelicts because of all the names I was called for saying I’d rather have Alex Smith. I even predicted Arizona would rue the day they signed Kolb. That prediction is looking good at this point.

  193. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th- We talk a lot of crap. Kind of like here! It only takes about 10-15 minutes per week. I like the Yahoo league because Dennis limits it 8 teams and we play defense. A lot of leagues don’t play defense.

  194. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I wasn’t interested in trading for Kolb at the time. I think Flynn is a bit better than Kolb but neither one is an upgrade over Alex at this point. Zona overpaid for Kolb big time, the Shehawks paid about right for Flynn, not too much of a risk but Jackson has every chance to keep the starting job there.

  195. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, Skelton so far has been bettter than Kolb, and now he’s hurt again. Some folks say Skelton has played lousier teams, but he got the wins. Matt Flynn is in the same boat Kolb was. Good numbers in a small sample size that got him a huge payday. Matt Cassel syndrome. I don’t really remember how hard I thought we should go after Kolb, maybe a little, but I’m still convinced that had last season been a normal one, Smith would have left.

  196. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If that wasn’t bad enough, They either wanted Kolb or McNabb. I thought it was obvious neither of those QBs were of any value to us.

  197. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The most intersting QB battle this year, IMO, will be in Minnesota. Ponder is a QB that will be good. He might not be ready, but maybe he is. If he stutters, Joe Webb makes things happen every time he comes in.

  198. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I’m interested to see what Joe Flacco of the Ravens has this year.

  199. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Another interesting scenario to play out, how important was Joe Philbin to the Packer offense. We will get the first opportunity to find out.

  200. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I was never much impressed by Flacco until last year. He’s starting to look fairly good.

  201. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Good point Berger, how much was playcalling is a good question.

  202. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    As coaches like to say, I think the light is coming on for Flacco. He has the physical tools.

  203. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Joe Webb is a gamer. Skelton is too, not a great talent but a gamer. I think Tolzien is a gamer too, I know pre season isn’t a great way to measure a QB but the kid makes plays in a game.

  204. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    T.O. is on his way to the Shehawks for a visit, is Edwards a bust already?

  205. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skelton can look incredible one week, and then incredibly bad the next week. The key there is can he be more consistent with experience? If I were Ken Wizzy I’d be trying to see if Skelton can do that over trying to continue the Kolb experiment. Skelton just shows too many flashes of brilliance.

  206. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    TO? Every scrap from the Niners gets a look in Sea-town. I hear Steve Spurrier is suiting up since Kolb got hurt.
    I don’t think Clements hurts the Pck very much. He’s been an OC, and he’s been in GB for 6 something years.

  207. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Or maybe Carroll can reunite TO with Jeff Garcia . . .

  208. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    30 minutes and counting. Go Mars!

  209. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    McCarthy is the Packer playcaller.
    Losing Philbin might not have any impact.

  210. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Berger. Both are healthy, and both are still on the board. Who do you draft first in our FF league, Moss or Crabtree?

  211. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    T.O. and Moss in the same division both tied for 2nd place TD receptions according to PFT, that’s something in itself.

    Agreed Burger, stick a fork in Kolb and see what Skelton can do with more game experience.

  212. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:


  213. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shit disturber, thy name is Dennis.

  214. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    What’cho talkin’ ’bout Willis? Simple question. Moss or Crabtree?
    As my favorite news anchor, Bill O’Reilly would say, “What say you?”

  215. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I can’t speak for the rest of you, but this Mars landing is really exciting to me. I hope for NASA’s sake it’s a clean touchdown. Otherwise, it’s the old fumblerooski and then some…
    T-minus 60 seconds… We want a TD!!!

  216. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    TD Moss, yes Moss, receptions Crabtree.

    The video feed from JPL is really good.

  217. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Auto correct sux. Yards Moss

  218. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    We are about to engage in “Seven Minutes of Hell.” Sounds like an old Nolan Richardson college basketball term. Maybe the razorbacks were two minutes of hell? Pussies.

  219. 12th manNo Gravatar says:


  220. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    That’s not an answer. Who scores the most fantasy pts., all things considered?
    1 pt. for every 10 yds of receptions. 6 pts. for every TD. 2 pts for every 2 pt. conversion. -2 pts. for fumble lost. Some people play PPR (Points per reception), we do not in my leagues.
    TOUCHDOWN MARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  221. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I have Direct, NASA TV is one of the channels. One or the mission controllers has “fuk u” on the back of his computer monitor, geek humor

  222. 12th manNo Gravatar says:


  223. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, Curiosity is sending pics back.

  224. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    My bad, its says Fuk Li, an unfortunate name, like a bad Mike Myers movie.

  225. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    An outstanding technological achievement, the skycrane part of the lander was a first and a huge risk. It will be the way future landings are done now they have proof of concept.

  226. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Used to eat at a restuarant in the city called Fook Yuen . . .

  227. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Ha, my local Chinese restaurant has a very friendly owner. He greats you with a big happy smile and asks very loudly where u wanna shit? U wanna shit in the front or you wanna shit in the back. My kids go hysterical every time.

  228. robNo Gravatar says:


    he probably does it on purpose to fool anybody who falls for it !


  229. robNo Gravatar says:


    i think we made a huge mistake by not signing kolb ! all we need is kolb and troy smith as a backup so he can be ready to sub in any time we need him !

    also we should make every effort to sign macnabb right now !

    make sure you call me after a six pack or so of your 9% beers and a good bit of your favorite hard stuff to discuss !


  230. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    rob- Are selling those Bonsai trees or samoking them.

  231. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Oops, that should be smoking, not samoking.

  232. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- Moss or Crabtree? I think that is a good question. Who would you take?

  233. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Now that the Rover has landed does it move over and let Jimi take over?

  234. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Wow I didn’t realize looking like JaMarcus Russell was the standard you hold of being in shape. Pablo Sandoval has documented weight issues and to say otherwise is being in denial.
    Being an All Star in baseball has turned into a popularity contest
    voted on like American Idol. It’s not for who’s best but which fanbase can stuff the ballot box.
    What’s different is it represents only your fiest half of a season’s accomplishments.
    Looking at his career stats he’s averaging under 60 RBIs per season which are mediocre.

  235. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    You conveniently left off the career .306 batting average, Bullit. You are a cherry picking moron. This is the last time I respond to anything you post, becasue you have issues. You obviously have some sort of mental condition. I don’t take kindly to stalkers who are going to piss on everything I post. You are a troll, plain and simple.
    Baseball isn’t football, Einstein. Do you know who Prince Fielder is? Tony Gwynn? Kirby Puckett? David Wells? Harmon Killibrew? Are they the definition of perfect athletic specimens? No. They are baseball players. They ARE (or will be) hall of famers.
    How is Panda getting his wrist broken by a pitch twice caused by his weight? Answer me that Dr. Dilldare?
    Leads the Giants with 25 HR’s 90 RBIs .330 BA .935 OPS.
    Not so good. Pablo had marraige problems and family issues in Venezuela. But he played the whole season with lousy numbers. Bochy rewarded him by using him sparingly in the playoffs.
    Despite missing 45 games with a broken hand, led the Giants in HR’s and RBI’s and batted .315. Yeah. Real slacker there.
    .299 BA, All-star. Bases-clearing triple. Hurt his leg on a spectacular play at 1st base. NOT his normal position.
    So, Pablo makes a stellar play where he normally doesn’t play, and breaks his hands 2 times getting hit by pitches, is an all star, has put up monster numbers, despite the 2 wrist surgeries, and is mediocre. By those standards, Crabtree is Ryan Leaf.
    Plus, let’s look at attitude. Hmmmmmm? Crabs? Stellar examples of leadership include holding out for half his first season, skipping Alex-led workouts last year, playing the aloof hotshit WR in meetings, and sucking ass in the playoffs. He has missed EVERY preseason snap, TC, and game, and whined about his QB on numerous occasions. Decent WR numbers mainly becasue there’s no one else worth a shit to throw to. Except for VD.
    Pablo? Well, what do you think? He keeps the other players loose. He’s a career .306 hitter. No one one the team has a bad word to say about him, and he took his demotion during the Giants playoff run without a peep. Great attitude, is a team player, and hits about as good as anyone in the game.
    If not for the wrist surgeries, Pablo would have even bigger numbers.
    One of your dumbest posts ever. Congrats.

  236. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I was just taking a cardio hike in the hills behind my house and had to cut it short because the young stallion in the new wild horse herd saw me from a distance and started to charge. I was about 2 or 3 hundred yards away. He ran solo toward me and my dogs for about two thirds the distance. I stopped the hike and hid behind a knoll, I even found a pinion tree to hide in. He must have stopped running when I was out of site. Now I’m wondering how to get home. I stayed near the fence line and tried to be quiet. Obviously I made it home safely or I wouldn’t be typing right now. What does this have to do with football? I now know I’m not a Cowboy! It did piss me off that I did not get my workout in.

  237. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “This is the last time I respond to anything you post”
    Hmmmm. This does not appear to be a believable statement.

  238. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck has called Bullit a moron. What aspersion will Bullit hurl in return? Pins and needles.

  239. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t give a shit what you believe, Skeebs. Bullit is coming unhinged.

  240. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It seems that anything I post you either take it personally or make a personal attack out of it.
    Do you really promise not to respond?
    You’ll just go back to your blog and backstab me as usual.
    Anyway make your excuses for the Panda. His marriage was in ruins
    so everyone should cut him some slack? He hurts himself playing a position he normally doesn’t play?
    Isn’t he a MLB baseball player?
    Monster numbers are not less than 60 RBIs a season because runs scored are about the same.
    In baseball it’s what you do with your hits that counts.
    You are missing the point. You can name all the fat guys but they produced and weren’t hurt all the time.
    Thanks for proving my point on Crabtree.
    You are truly a Forty Whiner.

  241. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    While bullit and Unca think they are horsing around, I was really horsing around!

  242. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I didn’t know that a horse was so territorial. You could’ve climbed up a tree.
    What other wildlife do you live around? Gotta watch out for the wild boar, rattlesnakes and of course mountain lions.
    rob needs to be careful of gators.

  243. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    We do need a new topic to talk about because the what we’ve been kicking around is no longer relevant.

  244. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Our long, regional nightmare is over: Michael Crabtree just ran onto the practice field in helmet and pads.”

  245. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t have wild boar. Do have rattlers, bear and mountain lions. They aren’t around very often. Wild horses are usually around along with coyotes. I’m not afraid of coyotes and have never been afraid of the horses until today. I’ve walked through herds of wild horses. This stallion is behaving differently than I’ve seen before. It is possible he was just looking for his herd, but that is not what I was thinking as he was running toward me. I can hide in a bushy pinion with the black widows but my dogs are herding dogs. I’m afraid they will try to herd the horse and get kicked in the head.

  246. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Training camp update: Michael Crabtree tripped over his helmet on his way to the practice field and was immediately rushed into the training room for xrays on his foot.

  247. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    We have hawks, coyotes and lots of rattlers here. Just a few miles and you get your bears, mountain lions and your odd wolf.
    The most dangerous critter?
    Chihuahuas! The little bastards will come at you two in the front, one at the side, while the smallest and sneakiest one comes up from behind lunging at your Achilles tendons.
    Even after escaping you’re half deaf for awhile.

  248. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Matt Barrows is as homer as they get, but you gotta love ‘presumably’:
    Michael Crabtree is currently on the practice field for the 49ers’ morning session. The 49ers wide receiver suffered an injury — presumably to his calf — in the team’s opening practice July 27 and has been rehabbing ever since.
    When practice began at 10:30 a.m., Crabtree still was working with strength and conditioning coach Mark Uyeyama. But as individual drills started, he put on his shoulder pads and helmet and joined the wide receivers for their drills.
    Crabtree, of course, has never played in an exhibition game for the 49ers. He missed 2009 because of a contract dispute. The 2010 preseason was lost after he suffered a neck injury that lingered until the regular season. Last year, he was recovering from a broken foot. The 49ers open the exhibition season Friday at home against Minnesota.
    Abnd ‘lingered’ . . .

  249. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    No Sasquatch??



    I forgot about wolves. That movie “The Grey” showed how fierce and relentless wolves are.

  250. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Sasquatch wears cowboy hats and blue jeans here to blend in.

  251. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Barrows a homer? I don’t think so. Especially when you compare him to Maiocco. He’s a downright toady since he moved over to CSN. And that forced smarmy smile he ends all of his segments with really pisses me off. Come to think of it, most everything in life pisses me off. Thank Christ for the vodka and the Vicodin.

  252. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    More likely to happen? They find Bigfoot? They catch the Loch Ness Monster? Michael Crabtree plays in a preseason game? My money’s on Nessie.

  253. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    A guy rafting yesterday


    That’s why they call him Skippy

  254. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- We’ve got eagles and hawks too. I had a hawk dive bombing me about two months ago. It seemed like he was just having some fun. I was walking, heard this screech, look up and a hawk swoops down about 20 feet from me. He had about 5 or 6 more passes. Some closer some not as close. Then he went up, caught a thermal and just started soaring in the thermals. It was fascinating. We have some big owls too. We used to have some so big they would carry some of the pet cats away. People would actually see them carrying their pets off. Somebody finally shot the 4 foot one because we were losing too many pets.

  255. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, that Jack Links Jerky is the #1 sponsor of the World Series of Poker. They’re doing alright. But I’ve never really associated beef jerky with poker. I don’t recall any of the guys I played with eating jerky at the table.
    I used to be a regular in this one game where our host would cook us an entire meal. I’m not talking franks and beans, he’d make a lasagna, prime rib, roast chicken with all the fixing. You name it. We’d play on Monday nights during football season and have the game on behind us. We’d play a little poker, take a break to eat dinner. Watch the game with more earnest while we usually bitched and moaned about our parlay cards. Those were some sad stories. You think poker has some “bad beats?” Try having Tony Romo and his Cowboys to complete your 5-teamer on MNF and the SOB decides to throw three INTs that night.
    How ’bout dem Cowboys!

  256. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I love the Jack Links with the guitar.

  257. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    ESPN just reported that TO just ran a sub 4.5 40 in his workout and Petey is drooling, trying to get him to sign.
    Antonio Bryant was just cut and they still have Braylon Edwards.
    Arnaz Battle or Jason Hill will be next.

  258. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Matt Barrows
    Crabtree update: He ended up taking part in individual drills but not anything else. Which, of course, puts his pressing debut in doubt.
    So, even his debut really wasn’t a debut. So, that makes 8 missed practices? 9? I hear Scotty is interested. Fire up the phone, Trent.

  259. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    We’re having a redneck party with a pig in the ground around the corner on Saturday. A lot of these rednecks know, and even own, horses. I’m sure they’ll know about this stallion I encountered today. I’ll be asking questions and learning.
    I figure that this horse was either charging me (unlikely), charging my dogs (more likely) or looking for his herd (most likely). Anyway, the way he was coming I wasn’t thinking of these options. I was gettin’ to some cover.

  260. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I’m feeling the love coming from the guy who swears that he wants Crabtree to succeed.
    Somebody’s nose is growing just like Pinnochio.
    I thought this was over and I still think it is.

  261. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Who the f#$% is talking to you? Read the thread. It addresses Crabs and his many absenses. Speaking of horses, I know which end you are.

  262. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Your promise didn’t last very long, Chuck.

  263. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Where am I addressing buwwit, Skeebs? I’m talking about Crabs and his missing yet another workout with his QB.

  264. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, as me and another guy over on Flav’s blog like to say…my Father had a horse charge me once. Once. “Johnny Dangerously” “Did you know your last name is an adverb?”

  265. robNo Gravatar says:


    they land on mars yet ?

  266. robNo Gravatar says:


    you’re the only person i know who has to hide from … dangerous horses !

  267. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I guess Bergs isn’t a Colts or Broncos fan, as well as being a shitty Cowboy . . . .

  268. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Rob, not only did the Mars Curiosity rover land, but NASA has put me in charge of their next expedition to land a man on Mars. I’ll give ya three guesses on who I’m sending. And the first two don’t count.

  269. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I discovered this little gem from 31 years ago featuring the guy from The University of Mars

    Mars is already inhabited.
    Hacksaw was looking good.

  270. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s 3 commercials that should turn those frowns…




    It is a privilege to support the Niners

  271. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    T.O. signed with the Shehawks! Moss and Owens, same division.

  272. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    When we play the Seahags we’ll be facing TO and Edwards. That’s bizarre and hard to comprehend because it was almost Antonio Bryant too.

    This must mean that Sidney Rice is not well and Golden Tate is still breaking into Donut Shops at 3am.

  273. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Crabtree was just named as a starting WR. The other starting WR is Moss or Manningham or Ginn.

  274. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, The Horse is pitching for the Giants today.

  275. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Sistrunk was a character alright. I don’t recall that Bic commercial, and I most certainly don’t recall that Italian soccer player. If your last name isn’t Armani, I don’t know any other Giorgio’s.

  276. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    And Berger, you nailed Pence on the head. Hunter is not clutch. You know who has the “clutch gene?” At least according to Skip(py) Bayless, it’s Tim Tebow. I’m gonna get a kick watching him as the up-man when the Jets are punting this year. It will provide some nice excitement and anticipation whether they’ll fake it or not.

  277. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Wow, Greg Childs was doing pretty well in TC, but tore BOTH his patellar tendons in his knees today. Very doubtful he ever plays again after that.

    And the Brownies named Brandon Weeden their starter, giving Colt McCoy the Royal Shaft.

  278. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    And T.O. to Seattle? Those two tussles with the Seahawks just got a tad more exciting. Not to mention more difficult to win. Say what you want, but I’d draft T.O in our fantasy leagues over any of our guys. No question.

  279. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Tebow will be the goal line/2 pt conversion QB. In time, he might take over all short yardage duties.
    The media will call it the wildcat, but it’s really just the single wing.

  280. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    That guy played on the NY Cosmos with Pele and George Best supposedly Soccer’s dream team.
    I find soccer hard to watch

  281. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The frigging Giants need Panda back. Pence? Meh . . . He needs more than one good game out of 5.

  282. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I guess Tebow can’t throw interceptions on kickoff returns. Or can he?

  283. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    There’s a big refinery fire in Richmond right now,and it’s been burning for over an hour with huge plumes of black smoke and it’s going to be awhile before they put it out. They are telling the locals to shelter in place and place wet towels under your ouside doors and shut all windows.
    Better fill up those gas tanks because when crap like this happens the cost of gas spikes.

  284. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Clutch in baseball is a myth, BTW.

  285. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis, you’d better get out of Dodge…

  286. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Redskins have Josh Morgan as third string WR on their current depth chart which is suprising

    It’s still early in TC but that’s a lot of money for third team
    inactive. If he’s cut don’t be suprised if Petey what’s your deal offers him with the Seahags

  287. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17