Semper Ubi Sub Ubi

OTAs continue this week, I think. And seven more weeks until Training Camp opens. So it’s probably as good a time as any for the annual farting column.

Just kidding. We could do the annual mocking the Raiders column, but that franchise has sunk so low it would be like kicking a cripple. You see Reggie McKenzie, Mark Davis, and Dennis Allen standing there and it looks like three used car salesmen on a slow day.

Excuse me for a second. [brrrrrrrrrrrrit!!!]

Some people think life should be run like a business, and some think it should be run like a religion. The NFL uses both models. Teams treat their players like disposable commodities and expect their FANatics to foot the bill like religious zealots. It’s quite a racket.


Of course, the team owners are supposed to field a winner to appease their zealots. Failure to do so results in the zealotry turning ugly, or worse, passive.

The 49ers have built a winning team that has yet to win it all. There’s a restless energy in the air. Watching Seattle march by us last year was not a good feeling.

The team has relied on defense and a running game to provide a consistent winner. But not a championship. The defense may slip a little this year, but even if it remains at a high level, the offense needs to improve. It needs to become scary. One more year of ground and pound and cliff hanger endings will not make for a happy fan base.

This will be Jim Harbaugh’s fourth year as the head coach. He’s made the team a winner. This year, he has to make it a champion.


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  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Just being relevant is good enough for some. Not me. Eddie, Bill, Joe, Ronnie and Jerry spoiled me, I want it all!

    Our running game is not that great. I would rate it as nothing more than above average, at best. Take away Kap’s scrambles and our stats are probably about average. The Sardine Can Offense is not even a good running strategy.

    Some say to look at our record. If a coach can’t win with this roster then he is a bad coach. Just winning and not winning a title makes for an average coach with this talent. So far, Harbaugh is an average coach. Unfortunately, that is better than what we’ve had for a while.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Since Walsh won at a .609 clip and did not win it all in 7 of his 10 seasons would you call him average based on your criteria?
    Walsh had some of the best talent of all time which has been proven with the HOF inductees.
    At best this roster currently has no sure first ballot HOF players. A few candidates possibly but nobody that’s a slam dunk.

  3. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No, Bullitt, you don’t hold him to the same standard because Walsh won it all twice in 6 years.

    You are the one constantly holding Kappy to Montana’s standards. Why not do that with the coaches?

    Patrick Willis is a 1st ballot HOFer hands down guaranteed.

  4. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    In the words of John Madden, the test is, if the Niners and the Seahawks changed coaches, would Harbaugh beat Carroll?

    I don’t think so.

    In other words, Carroll would beat Harbaugh with his team, and he’d beat us with our team. Carroll is the better coach at this point.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Again with the reading comprehension deficiencies?

    Read what Berger posted
    “Not me. Eddie, Bill, Joe, Ronnie and Jerry spoiled me, I want it all!”

    Berger is the one making the comparisons and setting the bar that high.

    With you it’s always “Ready, Fire, Aim”.
    When will you ever learn?

  6. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So, you deny holding Kappy to Montana’s standards?

  7. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Jesus Christ, miss the point often? Oh yeah, it’s you. You must have a neckache from watching things fly over your head all the time. I’m AGREEING with Bergs. Harbaugh SHOULD be held to the Super Bowl litmus test. You say Harbaugh is as good as Walsh, and I disagree becuase Walsh WON the Super Bowl. 2 in 6 years.

    Your words:
    “Since Walsh won at a .609 clip and did not win it all in 7 of his 10 seasons would you call him average based on your criteria?”

    I said no, Harbaugh’s not doing as well because he didn’t with the Super Bowl. Elementary, skippy. Sorry that nuance escaped you. Regardless of reg season record. Beyond that, Wash’s team was bereft of talent. Harbaugh inherited a team full of players.

    YOU were the one saying that Kappy should have won a Super Bowl by now since he’s 26 and Joe was 25 when he won. Not me, and not Bergs. My point entirely.

    Zoooooooooooooooom! There goes another one!

  8. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- I’m not sure what your point is. Are you saying Harbaugh is a great coach and Walsh wasn’t? Are you saying Harbaugh is as good as Walsh? Are you making excuses for Harbaugh while throwing Walsh under the bus? Maybe you are just being happy being relevant? What we have here is a failure to communicate.

    Walsh took over one of the worst rosters ever and won a SB in his third year. Harbaugh took over a decent roster, even good when we found out Alex Smith was a good QB who had just had bad coaches. By year two Harbaugh had great talent while I’m still wondering how Walsh won with the talent he had in 1981. Starting in ’83 Walsh had assembled a great roster and went on to win 2 more SBs.

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I’m saying you judge coaches and players for the entirety of their work.
    Harbaugh might win 5 Super Bowls or he might not win any.
    Nobody knows. Pass judgement when he’s done, not in the middle.

    Also very difficult to compare different eras. The NFL today is all about parity and rosters are much more equal talent wise. 30 years ago teams did not go from 2 wins to 11 like KC did last year.

  10. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh has had great talent and the open window for a title. Walsh did not inherit that. Berger is judging now while we are not reaching current goals, you can wait and judge later with everyone else when it becomes common knowledge. Some people see history while it is happening and most read about it later.

  11. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    6-10 to Super Bowl in a year? What was the Niners record in 1979?

    How quickly you forget our past. Too bad you weren’t alive to witness it.

    Like I said, you’ve been comparing Kappy to Montana for 2 years now. Why not the coaches?

  12. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    To be fair, Bergs, the makings on the Niner O line were all drafted before Walsh got there. However, it took Bobb McKittrick to get them going as a dominant unit. The offense DID have some talent. It was the defense that was horrific. The draft, and an FA signing here and there (Reynolds, Hicks) and the best trade of the century (Dean), with the help of should-be-HOF-coach George Seifert (DB coach back in 81, got the d on the same page as the offense.

  13. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The 11:28 is for Bullti of course.

  14. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Can’t forget Freddie Salomon . . .

    In other words, oh point-misser extraordinnaire, Walsh accomplished much more with much less in 3 years than Harbaugh. Regardless of eras, salaries, or whatever. Harbaugh’s team was stacked with talent. The 1979 team was nowhere near that talented. Carroll took over a fairly talentless team in 2010 and make some great moves (getting Lynch, his D line, his drafts of RW, Sherman and others) and HE won it all in 4 years.

    Harbaugh’s on the clock. No 2 ways around it.

  15. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- That 1981 team did not have a very good O-line IMO. IIRC, Walsh drafted one O-lineman in the first round while he was drafting, Harris Barton. He knew how to call plays and designed them around the talent on offense, unlike our current OC.

    He Spent more high picks on D-linemen than any other position because in his words (paraphrasing) if you don’t have the horses there, there is nothing to design to get around a hole the other team can expose.

    He knew D-lines win championships, which is why I am amazed at our 1981 title. The D-line was good but near what Walsh would stockpile in later years.

  16. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    KC went from 2 wins to 11 wins fore one main reason, a strategic offense. With the previous HC they ran an offense similar to what we run. Sardine Can. Force the QB to try and save the OC with big plays and blame it on the QB when he turns the ball over, which is exactly what they did. Andy Reid came in and changed that. It was the same defense as the year before but the offense was spread out and made some sense. The QB had better options and didn’t have to take so many chances. Yes, Alex did make a difference but not nearly as much as the play calling on offense did.

    Can you imagine Andy Reid as our OC, we would have easily won at least two of the last three SBs. I say the play caller is more important the quality of your WRs. Good play calling will get average WRs open, bad play calling gets the QB blamed for turnovers.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Simple question.
    Who are all Niner fans going to hold as to the gold standard
    until the end of time.
    Hint: It’s not Steve DeBerg, Troy Smith or Tim Rattay.

    I get your point. You want to say that Kap is a better QB than David Carr.

    I guess in Chuck’s world we only make the comparison when it favors his argument.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Andy Reid was one and done with KC and had similar problems with Philly not being able to win wild card games.
    Both you and Chuck can parade and project how much more successful other coaches would be in your fantasy situations.
    The silly thing IMO is to argue hypotheticals. Go ahead and knock yourselves out.

    Unfortunately this is not fantasy or a video game and a turnover at the wrong time means you lose and it’s game over.

  19. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- If you noticed, I didn’t ask what could be if Reid was our HC. I’ve got him pegged as a master play caller, not a master HC. He gets Schottenheimer status because of his play-off win-loss record. His problem isn’t on offense, his problem is putting together the stud defense. Last year he was given that defense but his pass rushers all went down just before the play-offs. If D-lines win championships it is tough to do when you lose your pass rush. Give me some more scenarios to parse, this is fun!

  20. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You should look at the offensive numbers for the Chiefs and Niners last season. They are mirror images of each other.
    You automatically give Andy Reid 2 Super Bowl wins???
    Based on what? All the Super Bowls he won in Philly?
    That’s right he never won one.
    He’s 10-10 in all playoff games. Giving Reid too much credit?
    I think this a real stretch of an argument even for you.

  21. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- That is the difference between you, the historian, and me, the strategist. You see numbers and think they are the reason for acting, I don’t care much for numbers because my experience is that anybody who relies on numbers for decision making is not a decision maker in the first place. To say the Chiefs and 49ers run the same offense is not true at all. Furthermore, your argument, which is based on numbers, does not account for the fact that it is generally agreed that we have the best O-line in the NFL and the Chiefs have one of the worst.

    But since you are one of those numbers decision makers, lets look at them. KC had 2056 rushing yards with a terrible O-line. 49ers had 2201 with the leagues best O-line. A closer look tells us the Kap had 524 of those yards. Do you really think those are traditional offensive rushing yards that the play design gets credit for? The answer is usually to find a way to get the QB to go through his reads and throw more. All most of those QB rushing yards are Kap bailing RoBaugh out. Also we had 505 rushing attempts while KC had only 442. Hardly looks the same to me.

  22. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    From an article in the KC Star on a game that the Chiefs won 17-16 last year.
    “Charles against the Texans, a game in which he rushed 21 times for 86 yards and a touchdown, and caught three passes for 37 yards. He is the heartbeat of this offense, obviously, and there are things that jump out on the video that must get washed away in those ratings.

    – 12 carries where he basically got nothing. This includes one particularly good play against him by J.J. Watt, but for the most part, these are the nothing-doing plays every team has and basically an indication that there wasn’t anything to be gained.

    – Five more carries for six yards or less that are more positive. This includes the touchdown run — terrific blocking, including by Eric Fisher — and short-yardage first downs. These are tough yards, almost always between the tackles. I’m reminded of this quote from Brandon Flowers, that was in
    the column I did on Charles a few weeks ago
    “He’s so fast, people try to look at him like a track guy, like some other backs in the league. But he grounds and pounds and wears you down. He does it all in one. You don’t need thunder and lightning. You got both of them with J-Charles. He carries this team, man. He carries this team.”
    – One ridiculous run early, where he should’ve been stuffed at the line of scrimmage but spun away to his left, then gets past the defensive back with a lightning cut up the field and runs away from a linebacker. I count four guys (maybe five) who had a chance at him. Probably should’ve been a loss of a yard or two, but instead it’s a 17-yard gain. Barry Sanders stuff.

    – One screen pass that was basically the same kind of deal. Could’ve been a loss of three, but he breaks three tackles and gets to the outside and gains nine.

    – Another run through the line of scrimmage where a linebacker could’ve made a good play for no gain, but Charles has enough speed to get up the field for 11 yards.

    – One run for 12 yards, off the left tackle, that was just excellent blocking and play-calling.

    – Two more catches that went for short gains, nothing very good or bad.

    – The fumble. Rewatching it, you see that Charles probably should’ve been tackled behind the line of scrimmage. He ran through a guy, which is when Watt turned and knocked the ball loose.”

    This is the same Texan team that the Niners wiped out 2 weeks earlier. Looks like the same offense to me. Jamaal Charles is just a faster and younger back than Gore.

    FYI what you failed to metion was Alex Smith had 431 yds rushing and the same 5.7 yd avg per rush but I guess you didn’t bother to check that out.

  23. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gold standard? Who cares, Bullitt? You give Harbaugh a pass while laying all the blame on Kappy. Bullshit. I’m much more of a mind that the coaches are not doing all they can to win. This team has the horses to win it all. They have for 3 years now. They’ve been coached into mediocrity by the offensive coaches.

    KC had a creampuff schedule as well. That’s a big part of their success. BUT, do you think losing Jamaal Charles and half their defense had anything to do with KC losing, Bullitt? Right.

    Christ, they were decimated by injury before the game even started, and they lost Flowers and many more defensive players during the game. Think they might’ve wanted to run the ball with Charles in the 2nd half? Beuller? Beuller?

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    The Chiefs Oline was characterized by you as one of the worst.
    It was composed of 2 #1 drafts picks and 2 #2 draft picks and a highly regarded free agent from Carolina Geoff Schwartz.
    More hyperbole???

  25. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Anytime you are on the wrong end of the facts comes your classic comeback “Who Cares’?
    Let’s have a discussion when you grow up.

  26. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It’s just amazing what the Chiefs do with a bad O-line. Imagine the Chiefs offense with a good O-line. Here’s your clue Bullit, they have a good play caller and a bad line, we have a bad play caller and a good line. It kind of evens things out.

    Imagine Greg Roman with a bad O-line? We would be back to the SingleRaye offense. But then, you are a numbers guy and possibly don’t have the capacity to see this? You even use other people to speak for you.

    Just out of curiosity, can you wee the difference between the Chiefs offense and ours? I’m just wondering if you do. I would imagine that there are many who read here that wonder about the same thing. For me, I’m asking for reference sake because it seems you don’t see the difference.

    Why did the Chiefs win 2 games the previous year when they ran an offense similar to ours and won 11 last year when they spread the formations? Out of curiosity #2, do you think the play design and play calling had anything to do with the 9 more wins?

    That is two questions to answer.

  27. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    All I heard last year was how bad their line was and where a player is drafted doesn’t make him an all pro. The only player that was highly regarded was Brandon Albert. You need to get your Schwartz on.

  28. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Also all I see now is you guys making excuses for Andy Reid.
    You say that the Chiefs were hurting on defense before the game started.
    Too bad you don’t defend the Niners like that (FYI Bowman broke his leg) and in the Super Bowl in the year before you threw Fangio under the bus instead of pointing out that Justin and Aldon Smith were playing hurt.

    It is really too bad that you think Pete the Cheat is a better coach than Harbaugh, You might live to regret those words because I do not believe that for a moment as a Niner supporter.

    Like I have said dozens of time, if Kap doesn’t turn the ball over 3 times in the 4th quarter we beat the Seahags. I believe that to my core. You ignore the obvious choosing to make excuses to what actually happened when the game was on the line.

  29. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Justin and Aldon played hurt because Fangio did not rotate them during the year. We went into two straight play-offs with our D-line banged up. That was the coaching staff’s fault. This year’s rant is Greg Roman.

    Last year I was railing on Fangio for not rotating the D-line, ergo, wearing them out for the play-offs. Guess what, this last year he did a good job of rotating the so line and I stopped railing on him. The new biggest problem is your love, Greg Roman.

  30. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    100% of the Chiefs’ improvement over 2012 was Reid. The other 50% was Alex, much as I despise him.
    For those of you keeping score, I was the one and only blogger anywhere pushing for Alex to go to KC for his own good.
    That was BEFORE Reid even showed up, and BEFORE Alex was traded.
    Having an otherwise good team with a HS QB, as the Chiefs had in 2012, is not a formula for success in the NFL.

  31. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Blah blah blah, Bullitt. Go back and play with your toys. Your facts are blame everything on Kappy. Harbaugh is scott-free in all this. Keep covering his ass for his failings. One more year of this, and he’s the next Marty Schottenheimer. The guy who can’t win the big one.

    The play that Kappy got picked on is one we run ALL THE TIME. It is the same play that almost got picked by GB near the end. Our usual 12 yard out. I’m surprised that route isn’t jumped more than it is because it is a staple of ours.

    The last pick? Read perfectly by Kappy and executed according to Harbaugh’s plan. Kappy’s problem is he tried to make too good a pass. Something he needs to drill into his brain is the fact that he had 3 more downs to score. Is he perfect? No. Your answer of going with Gabbert is ludicrous.

    Bowman played most of that game, dipstick. Remember? Of course not. If the Niners had lost J Smith and Aldon Smith before the game and then lost Eric Reid and Frank Gore during the game, do you think it affects the outcome? Duuuuh. Criminy, I’m playing chess, yer playing tiddly-winks.

  32. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’d give about 30% of the credit for KC to the schedule makers. The Chiefs didn’t play a winning team til what, the 10th week? Some shit like that.

    Yeah, FWIW I had Smith going to either KC, Cleve, or AZ. I said at the time a 2 and a 4.

    As for the fact that I think Carroll is a better coach, Bullitt, your words are true fan-boy speak. Who has the ring? Who won the game? Yeah, blame Kappy and only Kappy.

    Gee. I hope we keep running!

  33. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Justin Smith partially tore his triceps against Tampa Bay.
    First time I’ve heard that a torn triceps is the coaching staffs fault. What were the coaches thinking playing Justin Smith when the game was on the line?
    Injuries are part of the game but apparently this could have been prevented. How is a mystery.
    We have a top 3 defense for the last 3 years but the coaching staff sucks according to Berger. How did that happen?
    Why isn’t Berger a NFL coach?

  34. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Flip flopping again? I can show you a bunch of your posts that contradict the hell of what you just said.

    Wow what universe do you live in? You just said “No. Your answer of going with Gabbert is ludicrous.”
    When did I say that and how do we go with Gabbert when he’s not on the team? Again Ready, Fire, Aim
    Now you’re making crap up again.

  35. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Strength of schedule as an excuse. really??
    FYI Niner’s opponents .520 132 wins Chiefs .473 121 wins.
    Major reason Niners are in NFC West.
    KC happened to play Philly and Dallas back to back in the first 10 games but that goes against you narrative chessmaster.

  36. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Uh, we traded for Gabbert in March, skippy. You awake? Flail away, pal. Post whatever you want.

    Gosh! This is fun! Let’s watch Bullitt’s head spin.

    * dig dig dig dig dig dig*

    “Ooooh, here’s a post from 2010 where Chuck sez Harbaugh’s God almighty! Here’s one where he dogs Crabs!”

    You need to loosen the brackets around your skull, skippy. have some fun. Don’t take this shit so seriously. Lighten up, in other words . . .

  37. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- I don’t expect you to understand this but Walsh was the first to draft and trade for huge stables of D-linemen. The reason was to rotate them and keep them fresh for the 4th quarter. A bonus was that with less snaps during the year we would go into the play-offs with our D-line healthier each year. Not rotating our D-line had our D-line banged up for Harbaugh’s first two years. He rotated them last year and we were much healthier going into the play-offs. Harbaugh and Fangio got smarter and it helped a lot.

  38. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Besides RJF there weren’t that many options for there to be a rotation in 2012. Jerod-Eddie was a rookie as was Ian Willaims.
    Tell me who should have been in the rotation spelling the Smiths?

  39. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    In 2013 and this season there are more options for the Dline.
    In 2012 it was reported Justin Smith was on all kinds of stuff so he could play

    This Toradol is the same stuff that some are suing the NFL again for.
    It is not certain if what he had to do to play but Lorenzo Neal gives speculative details on what MIGHT have happened.

  40. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners are augmenting their staff through the preseason with a QB guru

  41. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- You rotate. Period. Or have a banged up D-line in the play-offs. No excuses. If there isn’t enough talent then tough shit. Somebody should have thought about that. Rotate anyway. Now you know why I’m always calling for more D-linemen every year.

  42. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Who’s the back up QB, Bullitt?

    KC didn’t play a team with a winning record until Denver, when KC was 9-0. That’s a fact skippy. Are you disputing this?

    Facts. Know them. Love them. You on the other hand spin spin spin.

    PS. Toradol saved my bacon last weekend . . .

  43. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Suffering from the side effects of Toradol are you?

    I think your discussion on KC should be with Berger. You’re saying it’s their schedule and Berger is saying it’s the playcalling of Andy Reid.

    So how many times have you flip flopped here on the Chiefs?
    You claim they lost their playoff game due to the number of guys injured. According to you they were only there because of their weak schedule yet you try to make the case that they lost by a point due to injuries in the playoffs.
    Another case of throwing crap against the wall and seeing what sticks?

    As for Gabbert I only mentioned him in response to your rant.

    As for who the backup QB is, that is to be determined. That’s
    where they determine the depth chart. Do you know something that we don’t? That would be ginormous.

  44. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Those things aren’t mutually exclusive, dipstick. I could give two shits about the Chiefs, but it isn’t rocket surgery to figure out why they did well last year. Crennell was a terrible coach. Reid did well to get a talented team headed in the right direction. Much like Singletary/Harbaugh. KC had an easy schedule. Smith was Smith. Low risk. Great turnover ratio.

    Why is this so hard for you to get?

  45. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    What is your major malfunction, private? Do you have to pick one thing and call it THE reason and endlessly debate that shit ti death??

    This appears to be your entire online existence, ad nauseum. Reductio ad absurdium.

    Lighten up, skippy. Everyone has opinions. Some are ludicrous, then there are ours.

  46. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    To set the record straight this is what you said about the 49er roster and personnel when Harbaugh took over

    “Berger says:

    September 1, 2011 at 6:57 am

    I’m not so sure our substrate behind the starters is that good. The good news is we are consistent because the same thing can be said about our starters. We do have some talent, unfortunately we do have many holes.”

    In your post yesterday you contend that in year 2 Harbaugh had a talent laden roster. Given that the 2012 draft is considered a flop (AJ Jenkins, LMJ etc) and the free agent signings were
    Brandon Jacobs, Manningham and Randy Moss which were of minimal impact, it would seem that coaching and development of the abilities and chemistry of the roster contributed to perceived improvement because there were really no major changes with the exception of Moss.

    Got to give props to the coaching staff on this one.

    I will also give you credit for being consistent on this

    “Berger says:

    September 2, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    I would keep 7 DL. DL should rotate IMO. I’m channeling Walsh here on thisw one. He always horded them and he always rotated them to keep them fresh.
    I agree with you on this but I realize that
    Ffangio/Tomsula aren’t going to utilize guys they have no confidence in and play them at crucial times.
    3 years later Dobbs and Tukuafu have still proven to be mediocre at best.
    Jerod-eddie, Carradine and Dial have more upside and training camp will work them into the mix.

  47. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- What was inconsistent with what I said yesterday and a few years ago. Walsh did not take over good starting talent. Harbaugh took over some talent and starters that were worthy.

    Substrate must have been the WOTD.

    I’m not a psychologist but it seems one is much insecure about oneself when he has to bring up old posts from way back to speak for himself.

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Not insecure, just didn’t want to get it wrong by misquoting you.
    You don’t seem to like it because it holds you accountable.
    That is why Skeebers has that archive feature.
    More people should use it.

  49. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Eric Mangini!

  50. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- I agree with what I said back then. And if I didn’t because I changed my mind then blow it our your ass. It just seems little child school yard for you to not speak in your own words and play gotcha with other peoples words. Just saying! Do you still watch Romper Room?

  51. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    “Poodle bites. Poodle chews it.”

    -Frank Zappa

  52. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Shocker!!! You agreed with yourself? You must be a man of conviction.
    If I have to listen to you and Chuck go on constantly I’m holding you accountable.
    If I want waffles I’ll go to IHOP.
    If you don’t lie nothing to worry about. If you change your position just admit to it. It’s that simple.

  53. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    My offer still stands. I’ll pick you up at the airport, Amtrak or the Greyhound station (your choice) and drive you over to Niner HQ.
    You can offer your services and tell them what’s wrong and how you’ll fix it. You can tell them how you can do much better.
    You can tell them that you know what play is called before they run it. Tell them you’re the next 49er OC.
    I am sure they’ll listen if you’re convincing enough.

  54. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Kinda hard to drive w/o a license, isn’t it? Based on your comment there, no one has a right to ever question any of the play calls? Because you say so. What a laugh.

    And, “go on constantly?” Bullitt? Seeing as you are the one digging out 3 year old posts and responding to them, methinks you are the one “going on constantly.”

    And, when did we last win the Super Bowl? Sorry you weren’t alive to see it. It was cool. As were the Montana years. And based on my record number of years of fandom (I’ve seen or heard every playoff game except for the Deetroit debacle in ’57), I give myself the right to questiopn the team from time to time.

    As for you, company boy, keep up the (Mangini!) good work. Someone has to lick those boots and kiss those asses.

  55. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Why do I need to be accountable to you? That has to be one of the funniest posts I ever read. You act like you’re somebody who is who is relevant. I really don’t care what you think of my posts. I make a comment and you immediately try to find fault and argue the point for weeks. I don’t like Greg Roman as an OC. So you disagree. There are other things in life to worry about than what I think of Greg Roman. You go on loving him, I’ll go on railing against him. If he changes his play calling I’ll be the first to be happy. If he doesn’t, I’ll keep railing.

    Meanwhile, being accountable to you is not something I would spend any time thinking about. If it makes you feel important you can continue to be the court jester around here making sure everybody is 100% correct about everything that is said. I’ll continue to give opinions and you can continue to be the fact checker. Maybe you have found your calling in life here on the blog!

  56. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Mr Super Bowl or Bust.
    Is that just a slogan?
    They’ve busted in the last few tries yet you chide me for accepting being relevant.
    What exactly have you done except bitch, whine and moan?
    I’m interested in your solution if it’s other than wishful thinking.

  57. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    My solution is get a different play caller. How can you not know that by now?

    Since that is not going to happen this year I am hoping the play calling evolves from the Sardine Can Offense. I can’t know that until the season starts. In the mean time, if bitching about it makes your head explode, that makes it all worth it!

  58. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    How about offer solutions, skippy? That’s what Bergs has done. That’s what I’ve done. Change up the red zone offense. Try more multiple WR formations on 1st and 2nd down.

    These are called solutions.

    Funny enough, I’ve been railing on play calling for years and years (too much Gore. Open up the passing game, etc). What does Harbaugh say THIS offseason? Maybe we should look at using more multi-WR sets on 1st and 2nd down. Play clock issues have been a huge deal for years. We’ve all been railing on that.

    If providing answers is bitching, then I’m bitching. You are just a bitch.

    What’s your deal? Find 4 year old posts to prove some sort of nonsensical (to the rest of us) point only relevant to you. Carry on MacFluff.

  59. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Better yet, post another link. At least the links have informed opinions.

  60. robNo Gravatar says:

    my first reaction when they annonced kaep’s new deal was being thrilled ! hey i was happy that we redid his deal and that we found so much money to offer him ! they originally said 6 years 126 mil and i was still happy ! somehow i knew it would all work out ok ! i’m very happy with the 9ers , kaep and the new deal !!!

  61. robNo Gravatar says:

    there’s an easy answer to the debate about what our weakest link is ! there’s no doubt in my mind that the running game coordinator is our achilles heal ! running into 9 in the box on a regular basis is just plain dumb ! what’s even worse is doing it when your WR’s are guys like boldin and crabtree !

  62. robNo Gravatar says:

    how is open up the offense or replace roman wishful thinking ?

  63. robNo Gravatar says:

    ” Maybe you have found your calling in life here on the blog ”

    hey berger that hurts !

  64. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    ROB!!! HOW THE HELL ARE YOU!!! Where you been? Ain’t you been travelling?

  65. robNo Gravatar says:

    Greetings from the cape chuck

  66. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Hi Rob!

  67. robNo Gravatar says:

    Omg BERGER sitting here at the bar on cape cod and they just showed vince wilfork on tv ; )

  68. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Cape Fear? Cape Canaveral? Cape Cod?

  69. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ahh shit. Saw your last post.

  70. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    How does it feel to be a sidekick? To be second fiddle?
    Just chime in with a yeah and a yes boss when prompted.
    You could never go one on one so I get it.

  71. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    My solution?
    Take care of the football and don’t turn the ball over at the end of the game.
    We win at least one if not 2 more Super bowls.
    You guys ignore the obvious and go in complete denial on the effect of turnovers.

    Keep pointing fingers and blaming someone else. The record books show 2 interceptions and one fumble but I’m sure you can get the NFL to put an asterisk next to that name another scapegoat.

  72. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Isn’t anyone going to wish Joe a Happy Birthday? The GQBOAT turned 57 today. It’s also the 80th birthday of the great Gene Wilder. This blog is nothing but a bunch of Abby Normals.

  73. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No one asked, skippy. Besides, how trite is that?

    Take care of the ball?? Throw in a ‘run fast!’ and ‘hit hard!’ and you’ll have the trifecta of pablum.

    Wow. Insightful. Did you just start following the game, champ?

  74. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You see, Bullitt, there are things that happen during the entire game that determine the outcome. Not just the end.

    See, if the Niners hadn’t fallen behind by 22 points early in the 3rd quarter of the Super Bowl, do you think that may have changed the outcome? No. You pin the blame solely on Kappy and the last drive. Goldson giving up an easy TD in the 1st quarter played a part. The whole 1st half shittiness played a part.

  75. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Funny thing about sports. How you finish a game really does matter especially in a close game. You can keep telling yourself that it doesn’t and look like a fool doing so.
    Again you resort to pointing fingers and resort to making excuse after excuse.
    It’s truly hilarious how you laugh at Romo and Dalton for making the turnover at the end of games and losing games for their teams. Too bad the standard doesn’t apply with the 49ers.

    I cannot buy what you are selling, that the Niners should have won multiple Super Bowls under Harbaugh but you hold Kap without blame because you are his #1 fanboy.

  76. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You have to be a helluva more intelligent than you post.

    So 9:42 tonight you state “No one asked, skippy. Besides, how trite is that?
    Take care of the ball??”

    What did you post at 1:07pm today
    “How about offer solutions, skippy?”

    You need to improve not only on your reading but your writing skills too.

  77. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Your solution offers a band aid for a wound. My solution offers a way to not get the wound in the first place.

    You blame Kappy but you omit the fact that he has more road play-off wins than all other 49er QBs combined. We don’t get to the point where he has the turnovers without him in the line-up.

    So with your solution we go back in history and take out the turnovers. Good luck with that. Without his big plays we aren’t even in the game in the first place. I have news for you, there will be more turnovers. And with your run the ball up the middle out of the Sardine Can Offense solution we would have been down by 20 anyway. But we would not have had any turnovers. Doesn’t sound like a solution, sounds more like tunnel vision.

    Kap got us to the game with a certain style of play and then because we needed some big plays the run came to an end when Seattle made some big plays of there own. I would rather see a more solid game plan so there is less reasons we have to take those chances in the first place. Running the ball out of tight formations works when you have superior talent. When two teams are evenly matched it is usually a loser.

  78. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You going to trot out that stat that Kap has more road playoff victories? Aren’t you contradicting your “Super Bowl or Bust”
    credo with that cherry picked stat? Isn’t Super Bowl or Bust
    without provisions? It’s your slogan and your belief. So you need to come off your Super Bowl or Bust cheer and add with exceptions that you can justify.

    What defines the great, the elite QBs? They perform well in the clutch. The fact of the matter is the Niners were in the Red Zone first down and clock to win the game.

    Isn’t it funny that one of the lowest and most memorable moments in 49er history Preston Riley fumbling the onsides kick? All that did was give Staubach a chance with 80 seconds left in the game. Staubach still had to go 50 yds and beat the Niner Defense. Staubach was clutch and Riley is the goat. He was the goat on one fumble and it was just a first round playoff game.

    Everyone remembers what Kyle Williams did in the NFCCG at the end to allow the Giants to snatch the victory away.

    Can I show you Kap admitting he lost the game? I respect him for owning up and it’s sad to make weakass debatable excuses.

    You are entitled to your opinion but it is utter BS when you go down this road and proclaim that you have a superior football mind.

  79. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve blamed Kappy for his part on that play, Bullitt. He should have thrown it where either Crabs catches it or it’s incomplete. I’ve said this about 15 times. He tried to make the perfect pass when he didn’t need to. But I blame the coaches for being wimpy on the 1st drive. For being very passive in the red zone. See? There is more than one reason. The defense failed miserably on 2 key plays and gave up easy TDs when they shouldn’t have.

    As I’ve said many times, it’s not either/or. Your overarching need to parse this into ONE failing is childish and very simplistic. But that’s what we all expect from you.

    That you choose to ignore everything but what you see as the ONLY reason is your problem, not ours.

    As far as your other blather, I offer solutions, you offer banalities. You might as well have said the Niners should have tried harder. Or that Balt/Seattle wanted it more. The worst banalities in sports.

  80. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bill Walsh wrote this in Sports Illustrated in the late 90’s

    “There are other reasons for the NFC supremacy, to be sure. In the past 12 Super Bowls, the AFC has turned the ball over 41 times to the NFC’s 10, which is inexcusable. The NFC has more than twice the rushing yardage of the AFC, even though the Steelers outgained the Cowboys 103 yards to 56 on Sunday. The NFC has had the more physical teams. And it has helped immensely that three of the most efficient passers of all time have been NFC men: Troy Aikman, Joe Montana and Steve Young. Aikman has been intercepted only once in three Super Bowls, while Neil O’Donnell, who entered Sunday’s game with the lowest interception-to-pass ratio in NFL history, was picked off three times.”

  81. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The playoff road win thing is a bit of a misnomer. More often than not, the Niners held home field during their glory years. At least through a lot of their playoff runs.

    That being said, there’s nothing wrong with Kappy winning playoff games on the road.

    Funny you mention Preston Riley. That one hurt the most because I was a kid when it happened. My 11 year old mind parsed it to that one play when there WERE other reasons. Mainly that Nolan was very conservative with the lead in that game, and the soft defense of the last couple drives let Staubach right back into the game. The 2011 NFCCG? Kinda the same issue, but I’m a man now and it wasn’t nearly as painful.

    In other words, grow up skippy. Keep pointing to the one and only thing in your childish mind that was the reason. Desite the fact that Kappy’s play WON so many games last year.

  82. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    “OK, boys! Don’t turn the ball over!” Nicve rallying cry. Of course teams don;t want to turn the bal over. Banality. It means nothing.

    Funny Bill Walsh said that about turnovers when in the 1981 NFCCG, his biggest win at the time, Montana threw 3 picks, and the Niners turned the ball over 6 times. The Niners should have won that game 52-14.

  83. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Beyond that, if you want to pick one play, Eric Wright saved the game with his horse-collar tackle of Drew Pearson after the Montana to Clark score. The next play Danny White fumbled.

  84. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Once again you are using a band aid while I am trying to prevent the injury. The NFC beat the AFC back then because they had much better teams. You can find some stats to use as band aids, the fact is they had better players at 80% of the positions. The AFC had to take more chances to have a chance to win and that created turnovers. You’re saying the effect was the cause and I’m saying the cause was the effect. You go ahead and believe whatever you want. The cause was having superior talent, the effect was turnovers.

    I’ll explain for you. If the AFC went conservative the were not physical enough to last. They were forced to open it up and take chances. This gave them a chance to win but also usually creates turnovers more than wins. What other choice did they have when they were outmatched physically.

    It does not take a superior football mind to understand this concept. Most fans actually do understand this. If you don’t then maybe we are all superior to you in football knowledge. Maybe this is why you need to use other peoples words to speak for yourself?

  85. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    “There are other reasons for the NFC supremacy, to be sure.”

    Yes, that is correct, Bill.

    He is saying it is the talent differences between the NFC and AFC that determined the wipeouts.

  86. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    He is also saying it wasn’t any one thing but a conglomeration of them. How many times must you hear this before it sinks in, skippy?

  87. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And, in actual news, Kappy has been cleared of any charges in the Miami incident.

  88. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Key point of Miami closeout memo: Police arrived to find woman naked & writhing in bed as if having sex — except no one was there but her.”

  89. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    She was having sex with the angel Gabriel.

  90. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    QP and Lockette were also cleared of any charges.

  91. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Wow Berger I am disappointed in you. But I know you could care less. For a guy that professes to be a football scholar (apparently in his own mind) and you say this?

    “So with your solution we go back in history and take out the turnovers. Good luck with that. Without his big plays we aren’t even in the game in the first place. I have news for you, there will be more turnovers. And with your run the ball up the middle out of the Sardine Can Offense solution we would have been down by 20 anyway. But we would not have had any turnovers. Doesn’t sound like a solution, sounds more like tunnel vision.”

    Anybody with a hint of knowledge about football knows that a key to any game is turnover ratio. When the Niners were losing games that was the common denominator. They were giving the ball away far more than our defense was taking it away. Turnovers flip the field position and the scoreboard.
    Sadly for you, a guy who says he knows football, to say that turnovers will come but they don’t matter is sheer ignorance.

    In 2011 when Justin Smith ran down Maclin and stripped him with Goldson recovering the fumble that sealed a 49er victory and turned a season around. That was a defining moment.

  92. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Andy Reid said this last year and most NFL coaches would agree

    “Reid spoke with reporters following Monday’s practice where he talked about the correlation between turnovers and winning and losing.

    “I told the team this,” Reid said, via quotes from the Chiefs, “not having turnovers and forcing turnovers are probably the two most important things that you have as a football team. You don’t want to turn the football over. Year-after-year you see that stat and if you turn the ball over you lose the football game. If your takeaway ratio is high, normally, if not close, normally you’re winning.

    “Those are two important stat points: takeaways and giveaways.”

  93. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In 2011 we beat Philly 24-23 in an away game. the Egos had 3 turnovers to the Niners 1.

    Found this in the archives written before the game

    bullit says:

    September 30, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Prediction time. If the Niners win the turnover battle by +2
    they win the game 24-20. Lose in turnover margin and Philly wins 31-24.
    Andy Lee is averaging over 52 yards a punt and netting 46 yds.
    Remarkable! He’ll need to punt it high and far and make DeSean Jackson fair catch the ball or muff it if he takes a chance.
    Make Jackson a non-factor and they also win the game with Maclin likely sitting.”

  94. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. Really? Turnovers can change games? You are getting infantile here, Bullitt. Everyone understands that turnovers can greatly affect the outcome of games.

    How do you propose we stop turning the ball over? Run it 40 times a game? Wow. Great. No turnovers, but we lost 37-6! Or (here’s another banality) play smarter? Yes! There you go! Let’s all play smarter, boys! Victory! Turning the ball over in and of itself may not be a determining factor in a given game. A hail Mary pick at the half, say. Or ASNY kind of turnover when you are up 20 in the 4th quarter.

    My point in the Nolantarybaugh era has ALWAYS been along the lines of pressing the issue on offense. All 3 of these coaches have been of a mind to keep the game close and win in the end. The Bill Parcells grind-it-out philosophy. It works til it doesn’t. This ALWAYS leaves open the risk of a late turnover killing your chances. The Bill Walsh philosophy was always go for the throat, get as big a lead as possible, and coast to victory. Playing it safe and then turning the ball over greatly affects the outcome of games. However, if you have a big enough lead, turnovers become less egregious. Capische?

    Your mentality is that of Woody Hayes, who said there are 3 outcomes when throwing the ball, and 2 of them are bad.

    (I’ll let you think about that for a minute)

    Ding! Time’s up.

    What should we do? You post all this shit that people say about turnovers, yet offer nothing in the way of solutions. ‘Stop turning the ball over’ isn’t a solution. It’s an observation. What do we do? Get Alex back? Start Gabbert? Run LESS risky pass plays? One WR vs 5 DBs?

  95. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gosh, Bullitt! One right call in 5 years! Golly, you’re cool!

    Don’t hurt yourself jacking off to your old posts. Wow. I’m seriously wondering if you are out of your teens yet.

  96. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Keep talking Chuck and that hole just gets deeper and deeper.

  97. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Seems almost impossible for you to ever keep anything classy.
    You always go into the gutter.

    Aren’t you the guy who has to make multiple predictions, then get caught and are still wrong? What will you do to overcome your shortcomings?

  98. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    2 minute warning: gonna start deleting posts now. Whoopee!

  99. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- You are making up things that I said and arguing the point. IOW, you are creating a straw man to argue with. Because of that, I am going to drop out of this debate. Have fun arguing with yourself.

  100. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It’s a good thing I wasn’t at Kap’s that night in Miami. If she was in there having sex with herself I would have been right there too, cheering her on and possibly aiding!

  101. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullitt, how do we limit turnovers?

    Simple question.

  102. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    When the Niners were losing games, it was because we would go 3 and out on about 70% of our possessions. It wasn’t from turnovers. As run heavy as our offense is now, Harbaugh has done a better job of getting the team into an offensive flow and not merely going 3 and out 7 times a game.

    When Gore rushed for 1600 yards, the Niners were still near deal last in TOP. Why? 3 and outs. We weren’t turning the ball over at an alarming rate as -7 isn’t that bad. We couldn’t score.

    You pin this on one thing. It’s wrong. Point fingers as you must, but blow it out your ass, skippy. Poor little baby can’t take the heat when you cause shit all day. Waaaah! For being adults, you and Flying V were always so startled by coarse language. A realm populated by the ivory tower crowd, and southern women.

  103. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like these multiple Jones fractures will keep me from becoming the next Fred Astaire. I was this close. It really is a shame. You know I love me some Ginger.

  104. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger wants Roman gone, and Bullit has a problem with Kap. Although there’s some validity to both of those arguments, changing either one won’t help the Niners win their next Super Bowl. That won’t happen until…

    Did we fire Jim Harbaugh yet?

  105. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Why the hell are we fans going to waste another summer worrying about OTAs? Next we’ll hem and haw over training camp. Then we’ll get overly excited about some no-name schmuck who lights it up during the preseason games only to get cut and/or land on the PS and/or make the team and become the next 49er GQ model who looks good in street clothes while standing on the sidelines.

    The regular and postseason? That’s already written in stone. Just put us down for 12-4 and anther loss in the NFCCG.

    Did we fire Jim Harbaugh yet?

  106. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    See what I just did? I’m just trying to ease your pain and save you the agony of another close, but no cigar 49er season. You want to enjoy the entire cigar? Go ask Monica Lewinsky and our former POS impeached Arkansas hog of a president how to fully enjoy a good Cuban. Or. Or. Or.

    Did we fire Jim Harbaugh yet?

  107. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Not that anyone gives a rat’s ass, and I certainly don’t intend to turn Skeeber’s 49er blog into a book club, but I’m currently reading Dostoevsky’s “An Honest Thief.” Good stuff Maynard. The subject material really hits home.

    Little known fact: Dostoevsky is Russian for Did we fire Jim Harbaugh yet? 😛

  108. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    The SEC has been on my favorite lefty, Phil Mickelson, for supposed insider trading with the purchase of some Clorox stock.

    The O/U of tonight’s Spur’s/Heat game fell like a stone extremely late from 200 all the way down to 196. Spurs lead 55-36 at the half.

    Go investigate that shit.

  109. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Another little known fact: LeBron James is basketball slang for;
    Did we fire Jim Harbaugh yet?

  110. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Describe myself in four words?

    Bad at counting.

  111. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    What do you say we do a little math together. Let’s take the number of Super Bowl titles Jim Harbaugh has won in the NFL, and then we’ll subtract them from the number of National Championship Games Jimbo won in college. Remember to show your work. Better yet, let’s sing it together…

  112. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I feel like I’m intruding Dennis but are we still talking about football?!?

  113. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I’m done ragging on Jimbo — for tonight anyway. Let’s end this evening on a happy note. Took the GF, Kelly, for her B-Day (9/7) to Disneyland back in 1988. Niners played the G-Men in Week 2 (9/11/88) at The Meadowlands. I would not leave our Disneyland Hotel room that Sunday until the game was over. Good thing I made Kelly stay, pissed as she was, to see the finish…

  114. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t have an effing clue what’s become of Kelly. But it wouldn’t shock me to bump into her one of these days. As you well know…

  115. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Is it bad/sad that I still remember Kelly’s birthday is September 7? Be that as it may, I hope you guys have “It’s a Small World” stuck in your head.

    Sleep on that.

  116. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Ah, 12th, Dennis looked like a sure bet to get the all-time Skeebs record for most consecutive posts.
    My money was on Bergs laying back for the stretch run, then cutting him off to protect his own record, disqualification or not.

  117. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Jesus, Dennis. Certifiable doesn’t even begin to describe that shit.

  118. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    We can always start another streak tomorrow. Or maybe not. Not only is tomorrow Friday the 13th, there’s also a full moon rising. Sounds bad to me…

  119. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I think Kelly is still in grandma’s basement where you buried her, Dennis.

  120. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The pride of El Cerrito.

  121. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Go down to:

  122. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    “He looks like Boris Karloff.”

  123. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Aha! I have 3!

  124. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Wait – I didn’t the count the one that was counting the other ones.

  125. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Think I’ll just let Reno keep his stupid record.

  126. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17