Second Helpings

Very few people were impressed last year when Trent Baalke got the GM job. Jed York promised a nationwide search and in the end opted for status quo. Baalke did not have a lot of experience and 49er fans were less than impressed with his hiring.

Baalke’s first draft raised a lot of questions as his choices did not have the Wow factor, especially first round pick, Aldon Smith. Then both Baalke and the fans had to wait out the endless 2011 Lockout summer before his performance could be evaluated in Free Agency. The first week of FA came and went without a single transaction, and fans were howling for his scalp.

Since that moment, Baalke’s star has risen dramatically. His draft choices played key roles in the 2011 season, Aldon became a Rookie of the Year candidate, his FA acquisitions solidified the secondary, the players he allowed to leave were superceded in play by the ones he kept, and the historic 2011 season was the result.

Not bad for an opening act. As Baalke heads into his second offseason as GM, there are few if any detractors left standing.

About the only player Baalke brought in who didn’t pan out was WR Braylon Edwards. Edwards looked great in Traing Camp and Preseason, then got injured in the second game and was never a factor the rest of the year. When Josh Morgan also went down in the fifth game, the 49er WR corp became a season long underachieving mess, with only Michael “Enigma” Crabtree providing any semblance of skill.

As we wait for the Less Than Super Bowl to blare its way off the stage, Baalke’s agenda this offseason seems clear. Re-sign a few important players and find us a scary WR.

Easier said than done, no doubt, but in Baalke we now trust. Until we don’t. Which will hopefully not be this year. Ten years from now would be okay, in lieu of never. Just as long as it isn’t this year. We need that WR.

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  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’d like to see us go after Vincent Jackson and Laurent Robinson. With those two burners Crabtree probably becomes a heck of a possession receiver.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    What a difference a year makes.
    Last year the haters were ridiculing Jed York for hiring
    Baalke calling the GM search a sham and saying York was just being cheap by promoting from within. Then the infantile comments about Baalke’s name calling him Balki Bartokomous from “Perfect Strangers”

    Seems like everyone is an expert
    and the haters wanted Mike Holmgren as the solution for whatever ails the org. Look how Holmgren is doing in Cleveland.
    In another 2 years he’ll either retire or be run out of town.
    They franchised their kicker.

    There are 32 teams in the NFL.
    Without looking it up can anyone name 12 current GMs in the NFL?
    I couldn’t off the top of my head.
    Trent Baalke proved to be the right move and he’s not dundering
    Balki Bartokomous so those same haters are not laughing now.
    Used to be on a daily basis that Baalke and York would be bashed by the Haters. That all stopped after the 9th win. Go figure.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    From the Niners point of view, not so good news. The Raiduhs are considering hiring Ed Donatell as their DC. He is one of three candidates. I think he’s a heckuva secondary coach and selfishly I hope we dodge this bullet.

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    And naturally it wouldn’t be a circus if the Eagles and the Jets weren’t involved. The Eagles just don’t believe in continuity and stability.

    Based on last year these two green teams think they can outbid other teams and buy a championship
    anr they will drive the price up for Manning when the time comes.

  5. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    So what to wish for next season?…keep the coaching staff intact…obviously we need a couple ‘elite’ recievers… a top free agent burner and a high draft pick would be a nice start…bring back the defense intact…add another pass rusher …just because…a top flite guard…funny thing though, i usually have a few players i’d prefer…but with how well Balke has done …hell …this year i’ll defer to him and Harbaugh….they surly know better than i… but i must say…im a little intrigued with the notion of bringing in a ‘healty’ Payton…imagine him, a few recievers …with our tight ends and backs…and the DEFENSE…wow…double wow

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Yeah definitely pursue Laurent Robinson. Vincent Jackson now says he wouldn’t mind staying with the Bolts so he along with the other top FA WRs are questionable.
    Two more lesser profile guys to consider are Pierre Garcon and Robert Meachem (Rob or Dennis will call him Robert Mitchum)
    Meachem’s scouting report from ESPN
    “Comment: Meachem is a good-sized receiver with excellent straight-line speed and adequate agility and route-running skills. He is a downfield receiver that does a good job of eating up the cushion on defenders and can use his stride length to sneak by them. He needs work on his hard cuts because he is not great sinking his hips to get in and out of breaks with quick feet and burst. He is best when running under the deep ball and catching it in stride.”

    Sounds like the kind of guy we need

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    A better alternative to franchising Goldson might be the local guy from Cal, Thomas Decoud
    UFA from the Falcons
    His scouting report from ESPN

    “DeCoud is a very athletic safety with long arms that allow him the reach to tip the ball away from receivers. He lacks premier speed and acceleration but does a good job of reading the quarterback’s eyes and shows above-average route recognition in deep zone. He is a solid tackler both in space as well as in the hole and is not at all timid about inserting himself on run support. While he gets to a lot of balls he lacks the kind of top ball skills that would allow him to come up with more interceptions”

    The Cowgurl blogs have them looking Rogers and Goldson as potential signing targets

  8. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I hope we do go out and get Laurent and Vincent like Berger said… only one problem. Why would they come to play for AS? That’s not exactly a recruiting tool. In time, Harbaugh will be a good free agent recruiter for offensive positions, but not with AS here. AS shuts down wide receivers. Nate Clements called himself “lockdown,” as in he’s a lockdown cornerback, Alex Smith is a lockdown quarterback. lol.

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s a new angle on the Manning Circus. Titan’s fans wanting Manning to come home. WE all soon forget that he is a UT Volunteer.
    What happens to Hassleback and the protege Locker?

  10. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, who would want to play for a team that missed the Super Bowl by a muffed punt?

  11. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Thomas DeCoud graduated from Pinole Valley High School. My hometown.
    I can’t guarantee his edumacation.

  12. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    The 49ers need to make this draft all about finding more skill position players on offense. The 49ers need a third running back. They need two new wide receivers, and they definitely need another tight end. I think Delanie Walker is Moran Norris’s replacement. I think Walker will be the 49ers’ offensive utility player (if he isn’t already). I could see Walker filling in for Bruce Miller at FB if Miller got hurt, then also playing H Back, WR and TE. The question really is whether or not Jim Harbaugh believes in Bynam and /or Rueland. All I really remember about Bynam is that my boy, Nate Davis, hung him out to dry in the preseason a while back. That one game featured Bynam, and he did display good hands. He looked slow, sure to get slower after his recent surgery, so I don’t know the future for Bynam. Conrad Rueland looks small on the sidelines, but that could just be because he’s in street clothes every game.
    I think the 49ers also need another running back. Anthony Dixon sucks. Frank Gore is old. Kendal Hunter is small. That spells draft another running back.
    All this talk about free agent wide receivers is just that – talk. No top flight wide receiver is coming here via free agency, and in addition, the 49ers aren’t paying anyone a huge salary to lineup at wide receiver when they can go out and get a rookie with no baggage that Harbaugh and Roman can teach – for half the price. DeShaun Jackson, Vincent… Colston? Please. You’re wasting your time. Pay ’em all that money to have Smith throw five yards out of bounds. Yeah, that’s a solid investment. With logic like that, the 49ers should get in line for a bailout. Those dudes are top- flight receivers who will resign with their current teams. If they leave, they’ll go teams with good quarterbacks. The 49ers may sign another free agent wide receiver, but it won’t be anyone of consequence.
    I would be shocked if the 49ers didn’t use their first round draft choice on a wide receiver. I wouldn’t be surprised, either, if the 49ers traded up alla Kaep or Anthony Davis to get a receiver they liked. I think the 49ers should draft two receivers. My dream is to have an awesome offensive line, great offensive coaches, amazing running game, offensive skill position players growing on trees, and watch David Akers set another record for field goal attempts because the quarterback is blind and disabled. That leads me to a question. You know that little arm band thingy Alex Smith wears? Is that in braille? Does Candlestick honor handicapped parking? What if all the excuses were removed? I mean, Alex Smith’s career has been an excuse festival. Can you imagine a world where Alex Smith has no excuses? Visualize Whirled Peas…
    Baalke has done an excellent job with the salary cap. People haven’t talked enough about the job Baalke has done managing the cap because they’re all still getting used to the idea that Baalke can draft. However, Baalke’s work with the books has been an asset as well – unless it’s Paraage, then Paraage just got lucky and deserves no credit whatsoever.

  13. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Who, spit-for-brains? There is Sanu and nothing else. Most of the talented WRs out there can be had in the 3rd round and lower. But as usual, you want to reach wildly and waste their 1st round pick. Who was it that said you should never draft a WR in the 1st round? Duhhhhhh.
    You give up, and jump on, players bandwagons like a girl changing her clothes. And I can guarantee that the Niners won’t draft an RB in their top 3 picks. They are likely to beef up their secondary and O line with their first 2 picks.
    As for WRs, they ARE going the FA route for at least one, or likely 2. Hello DSJ. His rep is shot, and he needs a place to keep his nose clean and make-good. Hey, he’s a Cali boy as well. He’ll be closer to home.

  14. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Blah, blah, blah. Chuck/Bullit – you lost us all at crazy.

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Spitty wants to become part of the Manning Circus cuz because he’s a clown he’ll feel right at home.
    Now look at all his predictions and think opposite and that will be what comes to happen. This imbecile is constantly wrong getting all his advice from Ms Cleo.
    He has admitted on KNBR that he’s a Raiduh supporter. So he’s a fraud here clearly posing and doing his work as a hater troll.
    Still waiting for an explanation about his GUARANTEE. He has no integrity, no honor and that’s why n0body gives this clown any
    One minute he’s gushing about Alex Smith expecting him to win the Super Bowl. When they lose he puts the blame squarely on Alex Smith trying to make him the scapegoat. Spitty has ZERO CREDITBILITY regarding football.

  16. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck/Bullit – Seriously, put down the meds and get the surgery already. Jesus. It’s makin’ you crazy. How sad.

  17. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    “There is Sanu and nothing else. Most of the talented WRs out there can be had in the 3rd round and lower.”
    Chuck, do you even watch college ball? Blackmon (OSU), Kendall Wright (BAY), Mike Floyd (ND) and Alshon Jeffrey (SC) are all WRs expected to go ahead of Sanu and in the 1st rd. There’s talent at the WR position this year. But it’ll come at a price. Let’s see what the winner of a nation-wide search for a GM does.
    FWIW, Walter Football has the 49ers taking a G, OLB and DE with their first three picks. That should make Spit grab for the drugs early today. If he’s not already ahead of the game.

  18. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve never thought much of Walter Football. I think the 49ers will use a first and second on WR.

  19. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    So do you mean to tell me this post was BS just like everything else you throw up and post?

    “AlbertEinstinkle Says:
    January 20th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    The way things have played out for the 49ers this year have been amazing. Winning the second seed, only to see the first seed get knocked off was a really, really big benefit to the 49ers. In addition, the AFC is weak. I definitely don’t believe in the Patriots, and I even though I respect the Ravens, and they beat us pretty handily during the regular season, I really see this as Alex Smith’s best shot at winning a Super Bowl. Everything has fallen the 49ers’ way – Second seed, Saints give us five turnovers, NFC divisional opponent who we’ve already played – on our home turf with a weak AFC opponent no matter who it is? That sixth trophy is ready to come home to momma. Harbaugh and his boys have created this opportunity, but now we must seize the rest of it. That’s what winners do”

    You abandoned ship faster than Francesco Schettino, the Captain of the Costa Concordia who claims he fell overboard right into a lifeboat. You two could be twins seperated at birth, both gutless wonders.

  20. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No, I don’t watch much college ball, Dennis. I’ll start researching guys soon. And WalterF is about as hit-or-miss as Spitty. Throwing darts is more accurate.
    Actually I could see them going OLB early if they plan on letting Brooks go. He’s decent, if inconsistent.

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Spitty’s source is Ms Cleo for all matters related to football and Tom Vu for all financial/real estate investments.

    How else could someone be so wrong?

  22. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck and Bullit: All aboard the psycho train….

  23. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, at least I have fun . . . Better crazy than infinitely boring.
    You on the other hand are Debbie Downer x 10.

  24. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    I just read that the kid from Kansas City… Dwayne Bowe is a free agent…ive seen him play and he’s looked real good…

  25. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    He’s gonna cost a lot . . .
    But hey, it ain’t my money.

  26. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Maiocco had the list of FA WRs.
    I wouldn’t mind a little Stevie Johnson action. He has just enough bravado for the position, but not too much to reach diva status.

  27. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Stevie is a moron. He cost Buffalo 2 games last season.

  28. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting article about WR drops
    and charts best and worst

    Article is very informative

  29. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Rams are interviewing two candidates for their open GM position.
    They are Joey Clinkscales Jets and George Paton Vikes.
    See what a national search brings up?
    My point is a lot was made of the fact that the Niners hired from within. We got the right guy.
    Would it have made anyone feel better if we hired Joey Clinkscales? Bottom line whiners like to whine.

  30. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    At 12:02 Unca admits he’s Bullit. What an idiot….

  31. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow, Dickle’s wrong about something else? If you weren’t so consistently stupid, some people might be fooled by your bullshit.

  32. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullitt’s been posting on the Insider for years. I gave up on that place a year.5 ago.
    You on the other hand can’t post anyhwere but here. Why is that, skiptard? Too stupid to even come up with a new log-in like V always does?

  33. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Oh, I can. It was a fun game for a week. But your blog is dead, so why waste my time chatting with crickets?

  34. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You have your own blog??? I see you have all of 6 members going on 3 years. 105 posts of which 85 are your own.
    I also see you’re one of the fools that was laughing at Baalke’s hiring as GM.
    Thanks for providing the link so we know what a fraud and a hater troll you are and if you have to do some self reflecting the answer is you and the guy in the mirroer is as pathetic as he looks.

  35. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    i’ve always like vincent jackson !
    he did seem to have some problems for a while . does anyone know the scoop on this ?

  36. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    my dream WR. would be 189-195 with 43.5 40 speed and 6’0 or better !

    anybody out there fit the bill ?

  37. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Am I missing something here?
    Your blog might as well be for
    comatose patients in the ICU
    because nobody’s posting.
    Yet being the weasel punk you are you choose to mock other people?
    Words just can’t describe what you are.

  38. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    43.5 second time in the 40, Rob? LOL
    I can probably do that. And I’ve got the 6-0 covered too.
    Hell, my 77-yr old mom might be able to make that time as well. With her walker, anyway.

  39. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Latest is Vincent Jackson now wants to stay in San Diego.
    He might be saying this so they don’t slap him with the franchise tag

  40. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of jokes, have you heard a good one lately? I mean besides Alex Smith’s 3rd dn conversion rate in the NFC Championship. This one made me chuckle…
    A woman recently lost her husband. She had him cremated and brought his ashes home. Picking up the urn that he was in, she poured him out on the counter…

    Then, while tracing her fingers in the ashes, she started talking to him. “Irving, you know that fur coat you promised me? I bought it with the insurance money!”

    “Irving, remember that new car you promised me? Well, I also bought it with the insurance money!”

    “Irving, that emerald necklace you promised me? I bought it, too, with the insurance money.”

    Still tracing her finger in the ashes, she said, “Irving, remember that blow job I promised you? Here it comes.

  41. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Del Mar, that wasn’t bad.
    Personally, when my time comes, it’s cremation for me too. Then down the toilet with half a bottle of Cuervo, while the mourners finish the other half. Seems only fitting.

  42. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Not so high profile but fits the bill is Robert Meachem who’s an unrestricted FA feom the Aints and was a #1 draft pick in 2007

  43. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t have a plan for when I die, but I guarantee you I’m goin’ out like a little beatch, kickin’ and screamin’ with absolutely no integrity whatsoever. That’s a GUARANTEE that isn’t being dragged behind my Willie boat like Del’s forty foot fishing lure.

  44. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners pick 30th in the first round.
    If you want another RB that runs like Frank Gore this guy Lamar Miller is for real. He even wemt to Frank’s school. The U.

    A lot of mock drafts have him being picked by the Bengals.
    He could replace Frank when he retires in 2 years.

  45. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Rob, that would be me 34 years ago.

  46. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Good to see you live like you want to die, Stain.
    What laughingstock . . .

  47. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Seriously insane… posting as two different people. I don’t post as Spitblood here because I don’t want to ruin Skeeber’s good name, but I’m not posting immediately nine minutes apart under different names. You’re insane.

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Banned from Facebook???
    Yeah it’s blowing up alright. In your face.
    You are one pathetic sad sack of crap.

    There is lame and there is you.

  49. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This Draft is loaded at the WR position. 1 solid FA acquisition and a couple of Draft additions would be great. Add TE Ladarius Green along the way too.
    We need to think OL/DL with the 1st Pick depending on the available players.
    I’m in for Fletcher Cox/Dontari Poe and wouldn’t mind Cordy Glenn or another nasty OG.
    1 guy not many people are talking about in FA is Carl Nicks.
    Him and Goodwin can have a reunion by the Bay and not miss a beat.
    Nicks is a BEAST and he does well in Pass Pro.
    Snyder has already turned down an extension offer too. I realize Adam is very versatile but, Nicks would be a MAJOR improvement over Snyder.
    Rd 2, I’d consider DE Vinny Curry, FS Markelle Martin or RB Doug Martin. Might be a little high for the RB there but, I like him as a faster version of Frank. Almost identical in size and running style as well.
    He likely wouldn’t be there in Rd 3.
    Go WR in Rd 3 or 4. Add CB and DT in the 4/5 area too.
    Putting a kid like T.Y. Hilton, Joe Adams or JCriner in the mix allows you instant speed and a replacement for Ginn in P/KR duties if we don’t hang onto him.

  50. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Meant to suggest WR JWright for the speed not JCriner.
    Criner is the taller guy but not nearly as fast.
    Adams,Hilton and Wright are all burners.
    Hilton has the most KR experience and his nickname was ‘Good-Bye’ according to info I located. Yeah, he’s apparently that fast.
    I’d also be happy to see LB DHightower from ‘Bama hanging around at Pick 30 too.

  51. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I wouldn’t mind if San Francisco drafted Kirk Cousins in the later rounds, too. Why do you like that Boise State running back?

  52. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Wow… just watched him on Youtube. He looks like stud. CBS has him as a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Doubt he’s there at the end of the 3rd. The Detroit Lions are interested in him, and I can see why. He ran primarily single back, sometimes out of the pistol, and that’s what Jhavid Best was all about. I think Best is done. The Lions will grab Martin in the second or third. I don’t think we can afford to go with a running back in the second round. I think we need to use a later pick on RB, but I’m with you… he’s a stud.

  53. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    J Wright was a PR as well. Lose Ginn and KW and I’ll take Wright in a second.

  54. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Lol – Unca hates Goldson and Ginn… he probably also hates the entire offensive line and wide receiving corp. The difference between an Alex Smith fan and a Tim Tebow fan is that you don’t have to make excuses for Tim Tebow.

  55. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hilton? Never heard of that guy.
    So, you go from dissing my blog to saying I misrepresent myself, Stain?
    Wow. How about you grow up? Or move along? I’m sure these other fine folks are sick of this shit.

  56. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We’ll get healthy on Offense with this Draft and FA Class.
    I’m still quietly optimistic that Nicks can be had at a decent wage too.
    Nicks and Iupati? I’d do it in a heartbeat.

  57. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    See, here in the real world, trollf*cker, the team may not sign all their free agents. Ginn is a free agent. So, unlike you, I’d do something about the issue before it becomes a bigger issue.
    Get a clue, dipshit.

  58. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah. I do hate the WR corps. What’s to like?

  59. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, Hilton is a small school burner I found in my research channels.
    Looks very impressive in terms of his Bio.
    He’s an invitee to the Combines too. Looking forward to seeing how he stacks up.

  60. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And, lest I remind you, troll boy, you hated Iupati AND Davis. Now you love the line?
    Shit, Yer the Mitt Romney of the outsider. Yer for and against everything.

  61. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Thx, NJ.

  62. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think a bonafide ‘burner’ WR who can actually catch, is just what this Offense is missing.
    It certainly would help Crabtree with the underneath stuff, since he seems to have problems separating.
    Look what Cruz did to us. If Ginn had better hands we’d be sitting pretty.
    The only guy we have catching passes with good speed is Vernon and every team knows it.

  63. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I think Ginn and Goldson are two of the best players on the 49ers, and the most underrated. I think Ginn has had some timely drops, but I think if Ginn had a quarterback, Ginn could be something special. If we got Peyton Manning or Matt Flynn, Niner fans would love Ginn. With Alex Smith, Chad Henne or whomever, Ginn is an afterthought.

  64. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Ginn is too inconsistant as a WR just as Goldson is as FS.
    Like that Goldson made it through the Season healthy though, that’s a big improvement.
    He fits this scheme pretty well but still takes too many bad angles for me.
    I think we keep him at a comfortable price but, I also think Jerry J.O. will come hard for him and Rogers.
    Goldson will jump for the bucks, Carlos might hang on for a reasonable offer since he’s older and smells the Ring now.

  65. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And, as has already been mentioned, we can always FTag him if they feel he’s that valuable to continuity.

  66. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck another kid that could be had in the late Rds/UDFA area is WR Danny Coale from Va Tech.
    Decent size, excellent speed, plenty of experience and very productive.
    Typical ‘Charlie Hustle-type’ guy.
    Same program that Josh Morgan came from.

  67. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, J Wright had a monster senior year, and he’s faster than sin. I[d love to see him get picked in the 4th. If we are high enough. Maybe late 3rd . . .
    And what yer saying is what I’ve been saying about Goldson. He’s gong for the money. The Niners won’t match it. And I don’t think they’ll get in his way and franchise him. Ginn? His stock is high as a ST guy. Nothing more. He’s not as big a concern as Rogers or Brooks.

  68. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    At this point, the Niners need bodies at WR. I wouldn’t mind seeing DSJ as a flyer. He’s fast, but has drop (and head) problems of his own, but I think Harbaugh could get through to him.

  69. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He played behind Boykin and still put up some great numbers over his 4yrs there.

  70. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I agree, if Brooks can’t be retained I’d love to see Dont’a Hightower sitting on the Board at Pick 30.
    If we can grab a stud for the Front 7 on D with our 1st pick, it certainly wouldn’t hurt the Secondary.
    DJax-types are all over this Draft class. Joe Adams and Kendall Wright are very similar.
    Kendall will go high, Adams could be there in Rd 3 maybe 4.
    Should be fun to see this phase of Baalke and Harbaugh going through a full FA/Draft period together.

  71. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, crazy that they got so good so fast, with little preseason, the abbreviated FA period, and no camp.
    A full regular offseason/camp can only help things along.

  72. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve heard some good things about DE/OLB Bruce Irvin. Any thoughts?

  73. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We know Baalke is paying attention to the need for WR talent too.
    He spent picks and signed FAs this past year.
    It took the Pats some time to find weapons for Brady too.
    These guys are not easy to project into the Pro game because college is typically very vanilla.
    Programs like Arkansas and Alabama for example, run very Pro ready programs which is why I like Joe Adams.
    There are plenty of other schools doing the same thing of course but, I don’t often see college games on a regular basis to know who’s who.
    Now is when I go into Jr GM mode and try to get information.
    As FA options go, I’d certainly consider DBowe, he has turned into a pretty reliable weapon for a Team with very little QB play. Much like we have now.
    We should do well, all comes down to the Cap ramifications.

  74. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Irvin is raw Berger. You know we follow WVU pretty closely in my hoouse. He’s got good size and great wheels but he’s a little tough to predict for the Pro game.
    WVU has had a very respectable Defense so he could be on the radar perhaps?
    For me, I’m more partial to Vinny Curry from Marshall.

  75. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I wonder if the Niners franchise Brooks. Both he and Goldson are good, if not consistent. So, it’ll likely be one of them. I think they are the ones that’ll generate the most interest from other teams, anyway.

  76. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He’s your typical ‘Tweener’ guy.
    Get’s after the QB very well.

  77. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Very possible Chuck. We’ll see how they play the cards.
    Brooks would certainly cost less on an FTag I’d assume?
    I just think the Market will play like it did last year.
    Rookie Cap should water down the price of FAs in general.
    I just think our 2 most visible guys, Goldson and Rogers, are gonna get plenty of offers.
    Big Duh is very weak in the Secondary. J.O. will throw his money around.

  78. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Brooks will get attention from both Philly and Big Duh too.

  79. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No different than Nnamdi last year, someone will throw a boatload of money at them and change the system they are were successful in.

  80. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t think the 49ers will let Goldson get away or Brooks get away, and I don’t see them having to franchise them either.
    For the 49ers to truly compete for Super Bowls, they need to start getting frugal and having Baalke be a salesman who sells the chance for a Super Bowl in SF to all players. Players on the Patriots (back in the day) took less to play for the Pats to compete for Super Bowls. It’s harder with Alex Smith to sell Super Bowls, but the 49ers will be in the playoffs year in and year for next five or ten years. Baalke should sell that hard to this team. Most of the players know that losing sucks.
    I think the 49ers could get Crabtree to re-negotiate his contract if the 49ers upgrade the quarterback position – that would save the 49ers some money. I also think Alex Smith’s true fair market value is 4 or 5 million a year, and if the 49ers don’t go after Flynn or Manning, that’s what the 49ers will pay Smith for a one year deal. In a sense, Crabtree gets paid more because Smith is his quarterback and the 49ers have little depth at WR. On any other team, Crabtree is worth 2.5 million per year, but because the 49ers are desperate for wide receivers and you can’t make the case that Crabtree’s numbers are soft without him pointing at Smith, they can’t restructure Crabtree – yet.
    I think the 49ers will threaten to franchise Goldson, but then reach an agreement with him before they have to use the franchise tag. Under Singletary, Goldson was a selfish player, but Harbaugh has done a lot to change the culture. I also completely disagree with the blog about its feelings on Goldson and his angles. I think Goldson could be the next Ed Reed in the NFL – if Goldson gets paid and he continues to believe and play with Fangio, Willis, T Brown, Whitner, Bowan, Culliver, Aldon and Ray. That’s a solid group of young dudes that I believe Goldson likes playing with. Bad angles and missed tackles happen. I just watched the Saints / Niner game and Malcom Jenkins (widely considered a good safety) missed several tackles and knocked his linebacker off Vernon that sprang Vernon for his first TD of the game. Missed tackles and teammate collisions happen. Goldson is the fourth best player on the 49ers’ defense. Baalke won’t let him leave.
    I could take or leave Carlos Rogers coming back. Good player, great year. Great attitude, depth behind him. I agree with NJ that Carlos could be that older corner who plays forever, but the 49ers have depth behind him and I no longer think the 49ers will move Chris Culliver to safety. Goldson and Whitner proved to be a dynamic playoff combo, and Culliver has coverage skills.
    Because the 49ers picked A Brooks up off the Cinci scrap heap, I think Brooks will make every effort to stay in SF and show the organization some loyalty. You don’t walk away from the Beatles. Aldon, Bowman and Willis? In that regard, I think Brooks helps Harbaugh keep the linebacker band together.
    I believe Larry Grant is gone. I think someone out there will make Grant a starter, and the 49ers can’t afford to pay Grant starter money, particularly if they’re going to go after a quarterback this off season. Sucks, too, because Grant is a stud. If the 49ers lose Brooks (which, again, I don’t think they will), Grant could be his replacement. I know Grant plays inside while Brooks plays outside, but the 49ers could somehow make it work.
    Ted Ginn is the 49ers most under appreciated player, and I disrespected him too at the beginning of the season. I wrote that Ginn is simply a returner, and Ginn is a great returner. He didn’t take many to the house this year. He’s not a Hestor or Cribbs type, but he’s sure-handed on special teams, doesn’t turn the ball over in the return game (which is harder than you may think to consistently do), and Ginn almost always threatens the coverage units with a big play -keeping them honest. I think for this reason alone the 49ers will try to re-sign Ginn. It’s interesting that Ginn was asked to restructure his deal at the beginning of the year, then he was solid in the return game and the 49ers really missed him in the NFC Championship game. What’s his value to the team? I think he’ll get a pay raise. The 49ers reduced him from 2.2 down to 1.2 (or something like that). I think the 49ers will pay him something like 3 years for 8 million with 4 guaranteed. I know that sounds like a lot, but I think Harbaugh, Roman – and particularly Seeley will see his benefit and pay him.

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Albert I think we’re good with Grant? Don’t think he’s a FA just yet.
    That’s the rub with the negotiations. How close are we to being a solid Playoff contender vs. how much can a guy get to play elsewhere. Anytime there’s big money involved you find out what type a player you have.
    I always consider the analogy of getting paid and getting lazy. There are the Albert Haynesworths’ and there are the Junior Seau’s who play for the shot at the Ring.
    That’s where Team chemistry comes in. Harbaugh has them playing unselfish football. Now we’ll see how the Agents steer they’re futures in the marketplace.
    Goldson sought a big payday and struck out last year. This time he’s got some numbers to help his case. Could be that he flourished as a result of the Fangio scheme and having a solid leader in Whitner back there with him.
    Obviously they all know how close they came to the Show.
    Let’s hope they feel compelled to stick together for another run at it next Season.
    It’s the nature of the beast, solid Team or selfish Contract demands.
    Baalke and Staff will move the money around fairly I’d suspect. Time will tell.
    BTW, what do know about WR Marvin Jones from Cal? He looks pretty solid.

  82. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    You are correct, Maiocco has him listed as an UFA for 2012.
    Baalke will be busy with Marathe this coming month, hammering out the Cap budget and seeing what they can do to keep the Team intact.

  83. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Larry Grant can also use your analogy about loyalty too.
    9ers Drafted him and released him. He kicked around and returned. Maybe we give him an extension offer too?

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit –
    Here’s the answer to Rutgers’ loss of Schiano. Glad to see Roman wasn’t in their plans.

  85. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What a crock it is to not to be in the Super Bowl. This is killing me. One guy that is probably a little relieved is Preston Riley.

  86. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    If you’re going to be a contender, you’re going to have pain. At the end of a dismal losing season, there’s no additional pain. Just relief. We missed being in the SB by less than an inch, and that is painful. But you gotta love the pain as part of the baggage of a being a contender. We’ll be back. This team is going to get a ring. Maybe more than one.

  87. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve looked at the Goldson collision with Tarrell Brown
    and have to conclude Goldson was the deeper guy and he was roaming
    and should’ve seen Brown coming because TB was covering Nicks.
    Goldson needed to know that Brown had a bead on the pick and to let up. Instaed he was determined to make the interception and the end result is he knocked out his own player.
    Then later on in the game Goldson again gets in the way of Rogers making a pick in overtime that would have given the Niners the ball on their 40 and prevented the second Kyle Williams fumble.
    Rogers would’ve has an easy pick
    and on the highlights Neon Deion said the Niners were their own enemies when making picks. That’s why the uniforms are different colors.
    Sometimes I think Goldosn let’s his nickname “Hawk” get to his head. Given a choice I’d take the CB Rogers and let Goldson walk because his contract demands are going to break the bank as I’m sure he’s not happy he had to play for $1.2 mil last year,

  88. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Screw the psycho babble. It sucks.

  89. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, the niners have 19 FAs to deal with.
    The problem with the NFL is the shelf life of anyone is very short. And it can end in the blink of an eye. Most guys take the money and run when its offered, knowing that any given play may be their last. Some guys get lazy, some guys thrive, but in the end, they go for the green.
    That being said, I think SOME players out there see what’s happening with the Niners and may think about coming here if the money is reasonably close.
    Bullitt, game awareness has been a big problem with Goldson his whole career. He makes big hits, but when he misses, it usually results in a big play for the other team. The 1st break-up, Goldson wasn’t in a position to see Brown. That one was a bang-bang play. However, the one that Rogers would have picked, he should have defintely backed off. The play was in front of him.

  90. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Off topic but to break the doldrums here is one strong cheerleader.

    Nothing feminine about those arms.
    She’s got some battleship guns on her! Damn!!!!!

  91. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Peyton Manning might be done. From Yohoo sports:

    For all the parrying and jousting last week over the future of Indianapolis Colts quarterback Peyton Manning, two sources say that the nerves in the quarterback’s right arm “are not healing as quickly as hoped and, worse, don’t appear to be progressing at enough of a rate to indicate that he will play again” While the vetebrae he had fused together during surgery last offseason have healed “as expected,” Manning “hasn’t shown improvement in velocity on his passes, and the two sources fear he likely never will again.” Yikes. On top of that, “two league-affiliated doctors with experience in spinal fusion surgery said it could take up to a year before Manning knows if he can return.” (That would be another year, on top of the one he just sat out.) Manning’s due a $28 million roster bonus if he’s still with the team on March 8, and with a prognosis like that, it doesn’t seem like there’s any way Colts owner Jim Irsay could keep him around, even if he wanted Manning to mentor Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck, who the team will almost certainly select with the no. 1 overall pick in this spring’s draft. For his part, Manning told ESPN’s Trey Wingo in a lengthy sit-down interview that the feedback he’s getting from his doctors “is encouraging,” but stopped short of guaranteeing that he would compete for an NFL roster spot next season, repeatedly saying that it’s “hard to say” how many more years he intends to play.

  92. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Uh, Yahoo . . .
    He’s gonna get cut March 5th. If not sooner.

  93. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So, that would be a whopping $51 million for Peyton to sit on the bench if he stays in Indy.
    Not gunna happen . . .

  94. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Just watched the Peyton Manning interview on ESPN. That dude will play in the NFL again. Best question of the interview – “Would you be amenable to altering the contract?” Answer: Jim and I haven’t gotten into that yet.

  95. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    How many years have you been watching the NFL?
    Peyton Manning is going to tell
    all and negotiate his future on ESPN just so he can make you the fanboy happy?
    Nobody will talk contact until Manning does a full workout showing what he can do and can’t do.
    You need to identify who Jim is. Most of us aren’t on a first name basis. Coulr be Jim Harbaugh,Tressel, Irsay or Beam.
    Is it really possible for you to be lamer and dumber than we all thought???

  96. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Dumb Chucks – Peyton is using ESPN to steer the rampant speculation the way he wants it steered. He wants to play again. Will he? Who knows. Will Irsay be compensated? Who knows. Will Alex Smith be back in a 49er uniform? Who knows…

  97. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right, Irsay thinks, gee, Manning wants to play next year. Good enough for me. Yeah, I’ll renegotiate . . . right. And you may make sense one day.
    Yaeh, Manning WANTS to play again. According to those sources who have apparently seen Peyton trying to throw, they feel he’s not progressing as he should. He may not BE ABLE to play again. He’s got at least another 6 months of rehab to get to the point where he might be ready for scrimmages. Full speed? No. he’s twisting in the breeze right now. No one is looking to sign a guy at that age with those medical issues.

  98. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    So Irsay just lets Manning walk without any compensation?… sure.
    And you know Manning’s time table better than anyone else?…. Laughable. Why do I even respond to you?

  99. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    What are his choices?
    Peyton has, on more than one occasion, said he doesn’t want to renegotiate his contract OR push out the deadline.
    Soooooo, the choices are cut him loose and get nothing inreturn, or let him stay for $51 million to likely sit this year.

  100. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Manning’s timetable doesn’t really mean Jack Shit as of now.
    IF Manning changes his mind and renegotiates, then it’s a different tack than he’s been taking.
    Why do you post here at all? No one likes or even respects you, troll.

  101. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    People love me… they just don’t know it yet. lol

  102. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    At least you freely admit to being an annoying asshole. Mighty proud of ya . . .

  103. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Peyton Manning will play in the NFL again. It could effect the “supposed” next Alex Smith contract. Smith won’t get the 6-8 people are talking about, and he’s not even in the same ballpark as the 10 million a year guys. That’s just crazy talk. But if Manning’s availability is “next year,” or something like that, it could effect Smith’s deal. Manning will play in the NFL again.

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    And when you’re wrong about it you’ll just develop the usual amnesia and move on acting the expert or changing your name when everyone catches on.

  105. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, seriously. You and me are buddies, right? Level with me. What happened to your blog? Did you shut it down for maintenance issues, or did the FCC take umbrage with your content? Seriously. That thing died. It was a fun, poppin’ place for a while there. Did you get a little heavy handed with the censorship? That’ll kill a blog every time. Honestly… what happened? You can tell me, buddy.

  106. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Keep this as a FA alternative to Rogers or Goldson.
    Titans CB Cortland Finnegan is on the Market this year too.
    3 guys I’d have on the watchlist are –
    Carl Nicks (OG)
    Dwayne Bowe (WR)
    Cortland Finnegan (CB)
    Kick the tires on –
    Marques Colston (WR)
    Brent Grimes (CB)
    Michael Griffin (S)
    Curious Inquiries –
    Paul Soliai (NT)
    Calais Campbell (DE)
    Brandon Carr (CB)

  107. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    CSN is reporting the Raiduhs are interviewing Manusky for their DC job. They just hired Greg Knapp to be their OC. I just don’t want them to take Donatell as he’s an excellent DB coach.

  108. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Cortland Finnegan would fit our scheme just fine.
    Has that chip on his shoulder and, is pretty solid in coverage.

  109. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Worry about your own blog, skippy. I’m busy these days.

  110. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    During the season and game days, my blog was jamming. With the season over, especially the way it ended, I’ve been slacking off. I’m just glad Skeebs has been keeping shit rolling.
    Manning is persona non grata. He has to prove he can even be in a position to step on a football field. That won’t be for about 6 months. If you think people are going to fawn all over him, think again. He’s a big fat ? right now.

  111. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The comparison between Goldson and Griffin is interesting.
    Goldson doesn’t have Griffins’ numbers.
    Griffin is a TX guy and could certainly land in Big Duh but, he’ll influence the Market for Goldson.
    All things being equal, I’d prefer Griff over Goldson.
    Griff is a better FS.

  112. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Our best bet is to retain Alex quite frankly.
    He would most definitely afford us the right Cap number and allow a much better budget for other necessary acquisitions.
    Say what we have about his career to this point, year 2 under the same System should be much more productive, if we can locate some WR support for him.
    BTW Chuck, I’m hit or miss with your site.
    Seems I’m blocked for the most part due to policies beyond my control.
    You are considered a ‘Social Site’ on my network.
    No issues with Skeebs’ site and others. Must be the way you’re registered? Once in awhile I get through but I’m blocked more often than not.
    Go figure?

  113. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

  114. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Weird. I’ll look into that NJ.

2021 Schedule
09/12 - 10:00 AM @ DET
09/19 · 10:00 AM @ PHI
09/26 · 5:20 PM v GB
10/03 · 1:05 PM v SEA
10/10 · 1:25 PM @ AZ
10/17 BYE
10/24 · 5:20 PM v IND
10/31 · 10:00 AM @ CHI
11/07 · 1:25 PM v AZ
11/15 · 5:15 PM v LAR
11/21 · 10:00 AM @ JAX
11/28 · 1:25 PM v MIN
12/05 · 5:20 PM @ SEA
12/12 · 10:00 AM @ CIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2020 Prognostications (Mulligan Version)
Bullit: 6-10
NJ49er: 6-10

Skeebers: 7-9
Winder: 4-12

Grumpy: DNP