Rams 48, 49ers 32

Drama got no favors from the 49ers this year. It took three games to boot it from the season (Jimmy Garoppolo tears ACL), but only two possessions (fumble, interception) to erase it from the final game.

Along the way, George Kittle set the NFL record for most receiving yards by a tight end (1,377) and the defense set the NFL record for fewest interceptions in a season (2). They also finished dead last in turnover differential at a whopping -24.

Everything else about the year was like a severed limb at an accident – you wish you’d never seen it because the image won’t ever go away. Well, maybe not that bad. The Niners have been piling up bad images for quite a few years now and they tend to form a collage more than a definitive portrait.

The 49ers finished the year ranking 23rd on offense and 24th on defense. The balanced effort of a high end of the low end team. However, they were the second to worst team in the league standings. An indication of an underachieving squad. The Robbie Gould offense will not be enough to turn this team into a playoff contender.

If you follow sports somewhat religiously, you know that when a graphic comes on the screen about how long it’s been since so-and-so threw an interception, it’s highly likely that the QB will promptly throw one. LG Laken Tomlinson was this week’s recipient of the dubious jinx factor. All week, it was pointed out that he had played every snap for over a year, so of course he tore his ACL in this game, even though he knocked on wood all week to ward off the demons.

This game was another example of a team’s running game being more important than a particular running back on the team. CJ Anderson stepped into the Rams backfield fresh off the street two weeks ago and put up back to back 100+ yard games. At the same time, Alfred Morris stepped off the bench as the 5th guy to be the lead back for the Niners this year and promptly racked up 100+ yards. This note is merely to warn NFL teams than Le’Veon Bell is not as valuable as he thinks he is. Nor, perhaps, is Todd Gurley.

At any rate, another sad sack season is completed. And it might be noted: Jim Harbaugh, 4 seasons, 44-19-1; Everybody Since, 4 seasons, 17-47.

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126 comments on “Rams 48, 49ers 32
  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    4 more coaches have walked the plank today.
    Cards fire first year coach Steve Wilks, Fins fire Adam Gase,
    Bungles fire Marvin Lewis (about time after 16 years of mediocrity) and Broncos got rid of Vance Joseph.

    There are currently 7 head coaching jobs open so the scramble will be on. Niners shouldn’t be in jeopardy of losing coorniators.

    The Raiduhs want a slicker GM than John Lynch so they hire NFL Network darling Mike Mayock to spin their pressers,.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Good morning I forgot to say PHUCK the RAMS today!
    Same for Seahags and Cowgurls.

  3. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Good case for Bosa over QWilliams. Also little praise for Thomas and AA in terms of draft value.


  4. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Jury is in. Two years and fully healthy and a brain to pick up technique. Thomas had 47 snaps yesterday against a quality OL that works well together as a unit, no stars.



    No QB hits or sacks. Lynch’s mistake is the invisible man on interior pass rush. Small size, lack of burst, and capability of IOL in the NFL force him to be a mediocre to average edge on strong side if he has a Bosa type on the other side.

    Reasonable trade ups may not happen this year. Do we want to give up a lot to move our 2nd to #20 or so.

    To me it is either Bosa or QWilliams. Two strategies to cover either pick.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Funny that if you look at Q Williams stst line from Sat he had 1 assisted tackle period. No QB hits or hurries and no sacks or TFLs.

    You lobby for this guy like you’re his agent.

    Just like last time when you were down with Blaine Gabbert as the Niner QB of the future and how he was going to show everyone his greatness. I’m still waiting. Now crickets.

    As far as Thomas the stat sheet shows he had 6 tackles yesterday to Armstead’s 2. Thomas is signed for another 2 years. Armstead is going to leverage a new deal.

  6. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Thomas has direct competition with AA and Ronald Blair. He has more snaps than either one of them but loses big to both on TFL, QB hits, and sacks.

    Those are far better indicators of a DT’s effectiveness in a 4-3. None have had to two-gap. Tackles could be near LOS or trailing tackles after a pickup of 5 yards. LAR had a big run game yesterday. Solly once again average, for a #3 a dud.

    His youth adds trade value. Where is risk for GB to take our 3rd plus Thomas for their 2nd. Strong side OLB is his natural fit. If he lacks in TE coverage that can be schemed around. GB needs help on D for an,example of a win-win for buyer and seller.

    On Gabbert see him sticking in NFL as solid backup. Would take him over Mullens. BG had bad OL with JAX, SF, and ARI. TENN is his best situation and he needs to pick it up there.

    Thomas needs to be moved this offseason to alleviate our logjam. Wonder if ARI has interest in AA or Thomas to allow a swap at the #1, #2. Realistically no trade ups in top 5 this year. Would allow us to deal in FA and draft better if up to us with Bosa/QWilliams choice.

  7. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Not able to see TV broadcast games but read QWilliams double teamed entire game.

    Jokingly I was about to ask if you and Chuck were on Lynch’s list for pumping up his blog approval rate.

  8. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You only thing you can call me worse than Chuckles is Spitblood
    or the Ram Lover.

    Did I mention Phuck the Rams!

  9. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Shanny and Lynch Staff to Coach South Team in Mobile at the Senior bowl.
    That is awesome.
    Gruden taking the North Team duties.
    Excellent move to Scout ahead of the Combine and, they play in pads.
    Kudos to Lynch & Co

  10. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    We have our own pick in the 1st #2, 2nd #36, 3rd #67, 4th, and 6th. Need stars. Already have depth from 2017 and 2018 drafts.

    Trade up or stand pat.

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Something to chew on

    If Cards hire offensive minded coach they might decide on drafting an OT over Bosa based on need and keeping Rosen alive.

    That would be an ideal scenario because the LT on Bama is rated as a top 5 pick.

    A long ways from decisions being made.

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    “On Gabbert see him sticking in NFL as solid backup. Would take him over Mullens”

    So you’re expecting Lynch to trade Mullens for a second round pick while Gabbert is floating around as a free agent.

    BKTom you said Gabbert was the answer at QB for the Niners, then he went to the Cards and you said he would lead them to glory.

    Wonder why I am dubious about your enthusiasm for certain players?

  13. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Joshua Garnett, good enough to be RG starter next year. Or can he handle C duties and be our OZ and pass pro better of Richburg.

    Lots of young talent from previous two drafts to digest and develop. KStreet no snaps this year. Colbert and Witherspoon IR’d. Marcell Harris and Julian Taylor very few snaps. TMoore just a few games at CB. DJ Reed did lots at slot CB but at an injury prone position. Same with Richie James.

    We do not need more day 3 draft picks.

  14. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


    The 49ers picked up Armstead’s fifth-year option back in April, which means if they want to keep him in 2019 at the cost of $9.046 million in salary, they can. The option, however, isn’t fully guaranteed until March. That means Lynch and Shanahan will have a decision to make before then.

  15. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit your guy Chase Hansen is playing today.
    I’ll get a look at him 😀
    Totally psyched about Shanny and Lynch Staff doing the Senior Bowl too.
    Awesome opportunity to see who’s who in preparation for the Draft.

  16. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Well…screw that.
    He’s not playing.

  17. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Garnett? Pass at this point. You can’t be a starter if you can’t stay healthy enough to get on the field.

    This team needs serious upgrades in pass rush, secondary, and O-line to be a real playoff contender. Without them, we’ll be a roughly .500 team even with Garoppolo back.

  18. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Could Steelers be persuaded to deal Antonio Brown in light of reports involving Big Ben dispute?

  19. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Biggest non-injury disappointment of the year: Weston Richburg. The guy who was supposed to help the inside of the O-line often looked like the weak link. I’d vote for this over Foster because I pretty much expected trouble after the off-season stupidity, and Dickhead, because my expectations were only middling there anyway.

  20. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, lots of blog talk about value of OLinemen and the QB’S health. The same holds true for WR ability to get seperation.

    One of the analyst/pundit pointed out that Mullens has the mental acuity to know when a receiver has their open window for the given pass route with a coverage. If enough of his targets are covered close he can get killed, after 3 seconds OL have done their duty.

    Pre and post snap reads of DB’s can help a QB know which of the receivers are likely to be open. Helps that WR and QB in synch for adjustments and hot reads after coverage reads. Antonio probably maxes out on this too and merits big bucks. Keeping QB out of a cast has to be a negotiating point in salary discussions.

  21. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy I read recently that Richburg was playing with a less than healthy knee issue most of the season.
    I’ll try to be somewhat forgiving of the criticism if true.
    However, he can be replaced at a much cheaper rate of his Contract is flexible enough.
    IOL is much more Cap friendly and, easier to replace in Mid RDs.
    Shouldn’t be hard to improve upon Person or, Richburg.

  22. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bakkentom, Steelers could be a favorable partner for scheme fits from our roster on Defense.
    In return, ABrown would be a needed upgrade for us.
    Something to consider, with anyone, where player for player swaps might be beneficial to both parties.
    JAX would be another similar situation. JRamsey being a nice conversation to have as well.

  23. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Also read recently that Sherman would help any recruitment of Earl Thomas in FA.
    I felt he’d be a natural target for Saleh as well.
    Thomas lobbied hard to play in Dallas but, Her run can’t touch our ability to pay.
    Thomas would also be likely to have a taste for sticking it to Pete twice a year.

  24. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Guessing the Trade with Cleveland for Coleman is prep for McGlinchey moving in for Staley when time comes.
    Could Coleman replace Person at RG?

  25. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    A sign/trade deal with Arik to Pitt/Jax could be an option to consider?
    Swap of Cap money makes sense, in exchange for needed pieces, without parting with Picks.

  26. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    youth and potential is part of the trade value equation it seems. Unless a 2nd contract player excels at a premium position, the experience is not valued as much anymore. With experience comes more exposure to injury and wear and tear on the body.

  27. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Earl Thomas could be an excellent pickup. Complexity of zone to man defenses can be overwhelming to rookies.

    Also more dime played, 3 CB and 3 S. Ward should be gone, Antone Exum seems a hybrid between FS and SS. Hate to put more draft capital here. Earl Thomas should help fill the safety skill sets demanded nowadays.

  28. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Paraag tasked with finding terms to pull a Brock Osweiler deal to get us to assume Bortles contract for JAX 2nd. Maybe Mullens in that deal somehow.

  29. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    IIRC, that 2nd cannot be for this year. A 2020 2nd will pass goody and his legal henchmen.

  30. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Let Person walk, and Coleman make the move. When Staley retires he can move back. OT pays better. Or Garnett steps up to either RG or C.

  31. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Paraag and moneyballers, the next chapter.

  32. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Given experience/Contract comparison, Jimmy vs Mullens is a tough call for me.
    We paid premium starter money to Brady’s backup.
    There’s no production to back it up. Hard, for me, to put Brees/Rodgers money in the same conversation as Jimmy.

    Sheer business decision, (for me) is to improve Cap situation, while adding needed pieces to win.
    I think Nick will be a good one.
    Jury still out (for me), on what we have with Jimmy, who now has to get over a reconstructive knee procedure.

  33. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Can Bortles be rehabbed under KS? Bortles Recovery Project. For some Dinero we get a day 2 pick and a franchise QB?

  34. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Got it. Jimmy for Bortles and their 2020 2nd. We keep Mullens. Trade CJB.

    Added benefit, this will drive Bullit ballistic.

  35. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Wait. Bortles damaged goods right now. We want Ramsey as well. So,they come back and want Mullens to seal the deal.

    Buy or sell, NJ. Your call.

  36. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I keep Mullens.
    I’ll pass on Bortles too.
    Put talent around DeFo on D.
    Put talent around Mullens on O.
    If Jimmys Contract can be moved or recast, for a premium WR/CB, I’m all in 😀

  37. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Mullens needs work but….he wants it more than most young guys I’ve seen since Brady arrived.
    He comes to play and, he wants to beat your ass.
    No surrender in him.
    Gotta develop him and give him weapons to succeed with.
    He. Has. IT.

  38. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Could we survive with Nick and CJ?
    If it meant dealing Jimmy for some premium pieces we need?
    Things that make me go….

  39. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Could Lynch gamble with Bosa/Quinnen in slot 2 for a haul of Picks?

  40. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, are you drinking. It is New Years Eve. There is fireworks out here in the oil patch as well.

    Cannot deal premium, no-risk Bosa/QWilliams. They have proven it against the best collegiate competition.

    High risk behavior needs hedging to prevent going off the rails. Stocks can use collars and swaps. NFL drafting has no safeguards. It’s boom or bust.

  41. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You guys are funny. So instead of Gabbert let’s trade for Blake Bortles. Bortles is Gabbert 2.0 so I understand BKtom’s love for him.
    Most likely Bortles will be released outright so why would you trade for him and assume 2 more years of a $36m bad contract? Good way to cripple the organization.

  42. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t like the taste of Solomon Thomas and Reuben Foster. Once is enough. So bad it scares one into sobriety. Ask Grumpy.

    I take that back. It would scare a Scott McCloughan into a sobriety. A blue collar fan….nah.

  43. NoFearNo Gravatar says:

    RE RBs and their self-inflated value to a team (if I may reference the OP, that is); Just look at Mr. “Feed Me” Elliott in Dallas. Proof positive that it’s all in the o-line, the team’s passing game threat (see Edgerrin James) and ten other players (and play caller) that have to play their roles and/or beat their man to make anything happen on the ground.

    Of course there are a few Frank Gores out there now and then who actually have had to do it all for themselves for a year or two or ten.

    Bell has done it by himself but not lately. He’s turned into Mr. Businessman a la Deion Sanders but I don’t blame him what with the Steelers franchise tagging him into the ground or into early and unpaid injury retirement.

    Can’t wait for Garoppolo’s return? He was 1-2 this year. CJ went 0-5. Mullens was 3-5 off the practice squad and nobody giving any games away like last year for Jimmy. Makes me question coaching and GM more than anything. Not too many average mildly interested fans who couldn’t do better at personnel and head coaching then the two occupying the big offices currently. But, hey, one must hope for better next go-round whether supported by evidence, reason and logic or not.

  44. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, the value of the Bortles trade is the 2nd, not the failed QB with the big guaranteed contract. We take that off JAX hands for the pick. Bortles could have an attempt at rehab, that is KS’s call.

  45. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Of course I’m drinking Bakkentom, it’s now 2019 here in NJ 😀
    Happy New Year Boys!
    We have an Easy Coast head start.

  46. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    But, Bakkentom, if Lynch favored Allen, Ferrell, Sweat or another guy, would a cache of Picks for the 2nd Pick make sense?
    Deep talent pool for Defense after all.
    I’m a dealer when we Draft this high.

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Don’t know if you watched yesterday’s game but Mullens was throwing ducks on his INTs. The first pick he was under extreme pressure and he threw the wounded duck to a group of 3 Rams with no Niner receiver in the picture.Second pick was trying to hit Kittle who was triple teamed in endzone. Third pick was staring down a receiver who was bracketed and easy pickings for the pick six. Mullens has limited arm talent and can’t spin the ball more than 20 yards.

    We’ve been through this already with Alex Smith as defenses started taking away the short game daring the Niners to beat them over the top.

    We disagree as I think Jimmy G is the future and trading him at this time would be suicide because you wan’t get value for him due to his knee injury.

    Can we survive with Mullens and CJ? We just lived it going 3 and 10.

    When Jimmy G went down everyone on this board knew the season was over (except for Rob). How have things changed?

    Here is video evidence of Mullens picks in case you missed it.


  48. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    What I like about Mullens is his brains. He is absorbing the wisdom of KS. He puts in the work of a Peyton Manning.

    Virtual reality headsets for QB’s are here to help them read D. His knowledge of coverages in pre and post snap helps him identify the receiver most likely to be open.

    How many QB’s take it that far. That is the secret to his success.

  49. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Jimmy is unproven in terms of game experience Bullit.
    No malous is intended on my part.
    He’s an expensive QB with little game experience. Nothing more. He landed in the right place, at the right time.

    All I’m suggesting is, what would you do if he could net us other pieces of value?
    Just some hypothetical Fan fodder to chew on for me.

  50. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, the pocket collapses from our IOL had his arm hit on some of his throws. He had little time to get past his early read, the pass rush was on him so fast.

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As for the record of CJ and Nick, there’s nothing around them yet to succeed with.
    Garvin and ‘Quise were there for Jimmy and, disappeared throughout the year for ye young guys.
    Kittle and Mullens are a hot duo.
    Add a #1 WR and it could take off to New heights.

  52. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Garcon not Garvin
    Fukn spell check sux

  53. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    So for Jimmy G there is different talent around him? Same players.
    You won’t give him the befit of the doubt?

    I said it from day one, Mullens doesn’t have to wear the wristband with the plays on it because he has sHANNY’S OFFENSE down.

    big mistake for throwing the ball when you are being hit, that is a bad habit that will only lead to your downfall. You take the sack or try to throw the ball away. You cannot stare down receivers and try to hit a guy who’s triple teamed unless you have a howitzer.

  54. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear, other good examples are Walter Payton and Barry Sanders. They did it all themselves. Their GM’s could never field a balanced offense.

  55. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Your comment that it might have to be a 2020 #2 pick says it all.
    Forgive me but that is one dumbass idea giving away that much cap room for a future #2 pick. Why do you hate the 49ers?

  56. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit the wristband factor is a good observation on your part. It says to me he’s not just faking it.

    Kid needs a lot of work but, he hasn’t been an understudy to Brady either.
    Given sheer numbers, Contract vs game experience, he’s a great Cap reliever with tons of upside.
    I’m simply saying ‘what if’ Jimmy could net us other pieces of need?

  57. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Watched Nick stand and deliver many times this season.
    Doesn’t flinch.
    Brass balls as it were.
    Keep was on the run almost immediately after his 11st read was taken away.
    Give Nick a pocket and, a better WR Corps and, my guess is, he’ll kill it.

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Kaep not keep. Fuk…..

  59. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Besides, Aaron Donald owns our OL.
    Lynch better recognize that fact, whether it’s Nick or Jimmy there.
    Until he solidifies the IOL, we’re going nowhere in the passing game.

  60. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    BDN wants it. Continues to stare into the gunbarrel. Got through season without injury. Lucky SOB as well. So are we. After those meaningless wins we still got #2.

  61. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Happy New Year and heres to Success in 2019.

    I think some here miss Nate Davis and are using Mullens tom compensate for him.

    Look, it’s one thing to say let’s have an open QB competition and may the best guy win. But trading away Jimmy G for picks would be very foolish and could set the team back another 7-10 years.
    That would be like trading going all in with Kaepernick and trading Alex Smith for 2 draft picks.

    Thos 2 picks yielded following after other deals
    Tank Carradine, DE (second round, 2013)
    Corey Lemonier, LB (third round, 2013)
    Carlos Hyde, RB (second round, 2014)
    Chris Borland, LB (third round, 2014)
    Stevie Johnson, WR (trade for 2015 fourth-round pick)

    Borland quit after one season and the only starter among the group was Carlos Hyde who was average at best and injury prone. Then rest of the draft capital here will make you cringe because Carradine and Lemonier were busts and did absolutely nothing with this team and couldn’t crack the starting lineup. Stevie Johnson was lost when he got here for his cup of coffee.

    Trading Alex Smith yielded little in hindsight and painted the Niners into a corner going all in with Kaepernick with no alternative
    or options at QB.

  62. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Per Maiocco Shanhaan announced he doesn’t foresee any changes to his coaching staff. So Saleh is staying on as the DC.

  63. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Lynch really stubbed his toe with the 1st Rd 2017 draft. That should have put the brakes on emotional decisions. The effects of that learning will probably have us making the pick at #2.

    Avoiding more risk and laying a solid foundation is priority one. Whether Bosa or QWilliams, national vetting and recognition makes both the top two. Makes this an easy no-brainer for Lynch.

    I posed ideas for moving the 2nd and 3rd into the 1st Rd. Seems our trade up capital is not there. The lack of 1st Rd QB’s in this draft does open trade discussions for Jimmy G or BDN.

    Some GM will Crack under pressure. Exciting offseason in store for us.

  64. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    My opinion is Thomas is far from being a bust. I think my opinion will prevail as they stuck with Lemonier for 3 seasons and Carradine for 4 years. Lemonier started 3 games and Carradine 7 games.

    Just like your all the BS about Gabbert and how he should be the future for the Niners you’ll develop amnesia. Appaently you are the only one on the planet besides Mullens parents that thinks some NFL team is going to give up a 2nd round pick for Mullens. Time to wake up.

  65. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


    Read comments. Seems in 2017 as RT he committed a lot of penalties. 6’5″ 310 lbs fought and won against leukemia in college. Came out as an older rookie. He is mobile. CLE did not do ZBS.

    Wonder what SF position coaches have on him in 2018. Need to see a lot of him and Garnett in preseason. Did SF see enough in both so no need for major spend in FA.

    If Coleman aced ZBS he should be our RT in waiting.

  66. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I really don’t understand why people are down on our GM and HC. I think they have done a hellava job in turning things around. We had a couple of draft picks that haven’t lived up to expectations yet. Every team has done that. I think they are the most articulate GM and HC that we’ve had in years. They know football.
    KS’s first two years 10-22
    Walsh’s first two years 10-22

  67. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    BKtom is just trolling and I made the mistake of engaging.

    Let’s trade away Jimmy G and Mullens and go with Bortles and assume his $36m salary. Yeah that’s the ticket.

    Forgot rule number 1. Don’t feed the trolls.

  68. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:



    Solomon Thomas first year had him do more Leo, 14 games with 12 starts, 3 sacks with 11 qb hits and 10 TFL.

    Solomon Thomas second year had less Leo, 16 games with 13 starts, 1 sack with 6 qb hits and 3 TFL.

    Look at his snap numbers, consistently high in every game this year. He plays OK if he was picked in the 3rd Rd. Nothing but a marginal starter quality able to hit high snap counts on a bad roster.

    Huge amount more snaps than Carradine or Lemonier to make a judgement on. Blinders much. SF picked up Gabbert for a lousy 6th rd pick. He has time to prove it wherever that occurs.

    BDN has shown mental grasp far beyond his draft status. FO will get offers this offseason. Seems we have only built tradeable draft capital at QB. DeFo, Glinch, Warner, Kittle going nowhere.

    Only way Thomas improves if Bosa or QWilliams draw attention from him. He has had two full healthy years to show he can be above average.

    Your reputation took a big hit hanging with Thomas. Admit it.
    KS chose Hoyer over Gabb

  69. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Two overlapping trade opportunities could be merged.

    If Jimmy G traded our cap got on average 27 mil bigger. That puts us back around 100 million. Bortles will cost us 18 mil each of two years. 2020 2nd from JAX. BDN very low cost bridge starter.

    Jimmy G gets traded to JAX for Ramsey plus a day 2 pick, only due to injury uncertainty. KS versus JAX OC, good chance KS gets more out of Bortles current value if he can spend time on him. If not dump him after 1 or 2 years.k

  70. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


    Mulens has been hit six times on 14 dropbacks. The 49ers might need to fix their interior OL before the start of next season. They’ve been abysmal in all their toughest tests this year.

  71. NoFearNo Gravatar says:


    Turned around from what? Tomsula? He went 5-11 and without the $30MM per game superstar. And Tomsula was a bum as HC by any measure. Kelly? Okay. The rookie HC/GM team bested a 2-14 Kelly. You got me there.

    Now if you meant a turn-around from Harbaugh, I agree completely. Nothing close to a winning season, much less playoffs or Division titles.

    The Niners under Shanahan went from 6-10 to 4-12. The 6-10 is shaky because they were 1-10 in week 12 before Garoppolo logged his 5 game winning streak against nobody that fought back.

    And Garoppolo came to the Niners because of nothing you can credit to either Lynch or Shanahan but was the gift from Belichick.

    After “showing well” for five whole games against hardly any defense Lynch felt so LUCKY he made JG the HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN THE NFL. There is NO WAY that money is money well spent. Add to that, the Lynch/Shanahan Rueben Foster fiasco and it can be described as nothing but stupidity. And now we learn the entire coaching staff is safe because 4-12 is, uh, not bad guys. Keep it up!

    I’m pretty sure you’d be laughing your ass off if the same scenario was playing out in any other NFL team. Which of the newly fired coaches are worse?

    Shanahan should be an OC and Lynch needs more, much more, experience to be an effective GM. TV booth guy doesn’t count.

  72. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Bang for our buck. Not this year. Beware the false sirens of FA.

    Jimmy G IR’D
    J McKinnon IR’D
    Wes Richburg played injured knee, OZ good, pass pro me
    Malcolm Smith wasted
    J Attauchu wasted
    Jonathon Cooper wasted
    Pierre Garcon OK till injured
    Juice OK
    Goodwin great value, from trade or FA?

    I put Jimmy here since the trade happened at March FA period. Looking back on 2018 we really do not have a talented roster. Will take 2 years to get this roster to playoff quality. 2019 a front 7 draft. 2020 needs to get some stars on OL.

    Do not want to be the Bears. After all the FA dollars and Trubisky and Roquan Smith and 2019 and 2020 1st’s gone, their OL is poor.

  73. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Ha. With all the FA injuries I forgot the major FA win, Dickhead.

    Injuries killed us. Without bad luck, we’d have no luck at all.

    Somehow we need to get that 3rd into the 1st Rd. First 3 in 2019 are pass rush, pass rush, and Will. If we have to, trade the 4th and 6th to get the 3rd into the 1st Rd.

    Do not settle for anything less for our front seven.

  74. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Nofear- I don’t see it that way. By the time Chipper and Baalky left the team was just horrendous. Harbaugh was pretty much gifted a playoff team. Apples and oranges. My opinion of Lynch and KS is much different from yours. We basically started from scratch and two years in the win loss results aren’t very good but these kids are playing harder than any niner team I’ve seen in the last 4 years. I think we will get there. Sure we spent a lot of money on two players but we still have a lot of cap space way more than lots of teams.

  75. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit the open competition is always a factor, except if the guy making all the money isn’t at risk of being replaced.
    The Contract dictates the outcome.
    Mullens could be in the same situation Brady was in with Bledsoe.
    Waiting for a Mo Lewis hit to remove the Contract influence.
    Jimmy is damaged now.
    I just hope Shanny/Lynch don’t get sucked into the Contract vortex.
    Mullens will improve with game experience.
    I’d like to see him prove himself.

  76. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The temptation would be to take ‘anything’ for Mullens, because he’s an UDFA.
    I go the opposite direction.
    Unload the fat Contract if the chance presents itself.
    Brady backups, on the whole, haven’t done shit, let alone getting paid like him, for filling in a few times and, watching film with him.
    Cap space wins in FA and, in retaining the good players you want to retain, like DeFo.

  77. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The wristband thing amazes me.
    Brady wears one.
    Either McDaniels runs a complicated system or, Brady is just getting old.
    Or….Shanny’s system is real easy for Nick?

  78. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Then again, Shanny hasn’t won shit yet.
    Came close I guess, as an OC.

  79. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Gotta love the Foles/Wentz situation too.
    Where would Philly be without Nick?

  80. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Now Wentz is damaged while making a ton of money too.
    Should be fun to see what happens next in that ‘Nick’ scenario.

  81. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Texas is about to play Georgia in tonight’s Sugar Bowl.

    There was a photo op a few minutes ago in the meeting of the mascots.

    Texas Mascot Bevo 15 does not like UGA 10


    Bevo could’ve been called for targeting and spearing as that’s one long horn.


  82. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Would not take quinn. He is DE, not a potential SAM. For his
    salary to be a 3 down player he would need to be LEO and nickel edge.

    Want Bosa or QWilliams with pick at #2. Want the sure thing, no risk. Whoever was involved in assessing Thomas 2 years ago cannot be trusted for this pick.

  83. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh but…they’re still in charge Bakkentom.
    IMO, there’s NEVER a sure thing in the Draft.
    Which is why I favor more Picks, to help improve the odds. 😀

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Something about handing millions of dollars to College kids that most of them can’t handle.
    Give me the Blue Collar guys in the Mid Rounds with something to prove.

  85. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here comes the Antonio Brown rumors with members of the Niners recruiting through Twitter


  86. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Wonder if the press reports on stuff like this. Accountability.

    Scouting chain of command brokedown. Any scout fired or demoted. This is under Adam Peters, or Mayhew?

  87. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    An Antonio Brown contract? LOL first we need an OL that can hold a pocket for 3 seconds. Very unwise but would not surprise me after Solomon Thomas and Reuben Foster.

  88. NoFearNo Gravatar says:

    Winder, for the eight years before Harbaugh the Niners didn’t have a single winning season. I’d call that stepping into a mess not gifted a playoff team.

    The year Harbaugh started, Alex Smith was in limbo about to be dumped and the team’s best receiver was Vernon Davis.

    I’m not sure why Harbaugh gets no credit for winning more games than any other coach in the league for three years and Shanahan gets nothing but credit for doing absolutely shit.

    Apples and oranges? You put Walsh up as a comparison (a win or two off, by the way). So, okay, next year Shanahan goes 13-3 then takes home the Lombardi and the dynasty is off and running again for the next twenty years?

    I’m not knocking your POV. I like your enthusiasm for your team and that you’re not an asshole about it. You said you didn’t understand why some people were down on the HC and the GM. Plenty of reasons, I mentioned a few.

  89. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Precisely the reason we’re in the shape we’re in NoFear.
    The Hekawi Leadership Council reached ‘edge of cliff’ by creating the revolving door of HC changes.
    Then, settled for 6yr deals to escape the heat.

    Like Mayock getting the GM job in Oakland, Lynch got to the GMs office, with the much coveted ‘experience’ of working in front of Live TV audiences.
    When all the qualified candidates screen your calls and, the Owner isn’t handing out $100Mil guaranteed Contracts, you get what’s left.

    Reason #1 why I’m totally skeptical of Jimmy being the Savior.
    Belichick did Jimmy the favor, not Lynch or Shanny so much.
    Bill knew he couldn’t keep him, knew we were desperate, knew we had money, knew we sucked and, would return a good Draft slot.

    Now we’re paying Jimmy like Aaron and Drew, among others, for a body of work Mullens has probably already eclipsed.
    Hard to get excited about holding high Draft slots with a GM that isn’t prepared to take some chances on cashing in on more Picks to better his odds.
    We’ll see how he plays the 2 Pick in a few months….It’s a costly slot to start with and, we’ll have to hope he hits a home run.

  90. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    One guy may help the Pass Rush. He might flame out. Nature of the beast. But, he’ll be extremely well compensated for his College production.
    2 or more Picks, in return for a Trade out, improve the odds somewhat, but, still no guarantees.

    If they don’t Scout well, or slot well, it really doesn’t matter anyway. They’ll fall victim to the Kipers, Mayocks, et al, who create the echo chamber of hype that get the Agents paid.

    Quite the racket…..
    How long has it been since Belichick Drafted in the Top 10?
    Shows that it’s not just Top Picks that matter, someone has to Coach them up, once they get here.
    Put the money into superior Coaches and get far, far away.

  91. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    More bad luck. Chris Biderman at SacBee reports AA fractured his right hand in CHI game and wore a club in LAR game. If surgery and does not heal in time, his 5th year option is guaranteed.

  92. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    They should try to get some kind of Contract extension arranged, to knock that 5th year number down, if they plan on keeping him.
    One thing I will give credit to Paraag on, he’s pretty good at Contract terms and keeping the Cap in good shape.

  93. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners paid Jimmy G the market value.
    I don’t begrudge him that because there were 10 teams lined up looking for their QB willing to give him the same deal.

    The heat is on in Minnesota as Cousins was a disaster. It has been exposed that a lot of Cousins numbers are padded on when the game was out of hand in garbage time and not when the game was still a contest.

    There are similar games for Mullens when the team trailed by 3 TDs and he got the stats when the game was out of hand. That happened in then first Seahag game and this weekend’s game against the Rams.

    No doubt the Vikes would like a do over and are still uncertain about their QB situation.

    Regardless Jimmy G’s contract was a no brainer and all the hype for turnaround pivots around that. It is unfortunate he got hurt but he is still entrenched as the starter and IMO Mullens is second string unless Jimmy can’t physically go.

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I also remember the days when John York took over and the contrast in style.
    John York wouldn’t open the wallet to sign any free agent of value and the players in the league knew that the 49ers weren’t a popular destination.

    Have to give Jed York credit that he’s willing to spend the bucks. If John York was in charge he wouldn’t give Jimmy G a wooden nickel and we’d still have Hoyer as our QB.

  95. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    What is really stupid is hiring a head coach for $10m a year for 10 years.
    Then getting rid one of your best players who happens to be a pass rusher because you don’t want to pay him And getting rid of your best receiver who goes to Dallas and puts up big numbers. Then you scratch your head and wonder where your pass rush is,

    Your name would be Mark Davis and you are a cheapass with a dumb and dumber haircut. There lies the dumpster fire that has no stadium to play in next season, basically the team without a home. So essentially the Raiduhs are homeless.

  96. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s my point Bullit.
    The ONLY POINT, regarding the 9ers.
    York’s. York’s. York’s.
    Hekawi Leadership Council.
    Cheap, cheaper, cheapest.
    Sure. Jimmy had other suitors.
    I don’t begrudge him his money either.
    Belichick did Jimmy a SOLID.
    While snagging higher Picks from the Hekawi Leadership.

    However…Trent Brown is protecting TBs blindside, while Solder, and Jimmy, landed hefty Contracts. ELSEWHERE.

    Call it what you want to.
    Belichick is still laughing at the Hekawi Leadership Council.
    And, of course, prepping for another SB run, while Shanny’s Staff if off to Mobile to find some diamonds in the rough to add to the roster.

    Coaching and talent evaluation.
    Belichick punked the Hekawi.
    Absolutely NO SURPRISE to me.

  97. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Nofear- I totally appreciated what Harbaugh did for the team until his last year. And I have my own opinions about that. What I meant was that Harbaugh only had to add about 4 or 5 players Aldon, Bowman, and a couple of veteran DB’s and the pieces fit. He didn’t have to get rid of 30+ players just to get rid of the dead weight. I KS took over a team just as bad as the team Walsh took over. That is the only comparison between the two I will make. I have always liked seeing your opinion of things. Maybe I am just misreading the anger in your posts about lynch and KS. I think they need a little more time before they get kicked to the curb.

  98. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    One of us is going to right about Jimmy G. I’m very confident but only time will tell. Stay tuned.

    Jed York is staying out the way and keeping his mouth shut and not meddling. He’s opening up his wallet when asked so the team is in play for all free agents. I’m OK with his behavior post Baalke.

    This is what happened when Jed York got rid of Baalke


  99. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Belichick plays chess in this game.
    York’s play Tic-Tac-Toe.
    We buy high, sell low.
    He buys low, sells high.

    Ass. Fukn. Backwards.

  100. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit it’s not about right and wrong for me.
    It’s about winning football games.
    We suck.
    Jimmy damaged now.
    Jimmy rich too.

    Baalke got Trent Brown right huh? Belichick swapped him for Solder.
    Major cost reduction too.
    For Belichick.
    Not the Hekawi Leadership Council.

  101. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Trent Brown is a UFA next season. He’s available if you want him that badly. Pats traded for a one year rental.
    IIRC he didn’t fit in as a zone blocker so that’s why he was traded.
    They received a 3rd round pick out of it. I don’t think the Niners got fleeced on this one so I will beg to differ.

  102. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You told me to get over Baalke but it appears you haven’t.

    Can’t have it both ways.

    How about those Texas Longhorns kicking Georgia’s butt yesterday?

  103. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit nicely done yesterday vs UGA.
    Congrats 😀

    Baalke is history. No longer a topic or concern for me.
    Point is, ANY GM misses more than he hits in the NFL.
    By getting the most from the guys you Draft requires a SOLID Coaching/Scouting Staff.
    York’s don’t come close in that regard.

    Kraft gives Bill the bulk of that responsibility. For good reason. He (Bill), knows football.
    The Hekawi Leadership Council has set this Franchise back immensely, because they dismantled a relatively stable foundation, that didn’t stroke their collective egos.
    Paying Jimmy is just another expensive step on their delusional road to Oz.

    Said it a million times.
    Pay good football guys to run football Ops and go away.
    Lynch = Mayock IMO.
    Not what I’d consider a Top football guy from a FO perspective.

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Right now both Texas WRs LJ Humphery and Colin Johnson will probably come back next year and I think it’s the right move.
    They’ve been told they are rated now as Day 3 draft picks so they need another year of seasoning. They have until Jan 14 to decide.

    Two WRs from Big 12 that will be in draft are Denzel Mims and Hakeem Butler. They will be either 2nd or 3rd rounders. Butler is 6’6″ with a huge catch radius and Mims is 6’3″ and was a sprint champ in high school so he can be a deep threat.

  105. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You got this thing against Garapollo just like I was anti Kaepernick. I get it.

    I have no love for the Yorks but have resolved that Jed York is going to outlive me and will own the Niners whether I like it or not.

    The thing about selling a franchise is the nest owner could be worse than present ownership so you never can tell.

  106. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I have nothing against Jimmy at all Bullit.
    It’s simple business for me. Premium Cap money is now tied up with Brady’s backup. Nothing more, nothing less.

    We have transitional/regime change guys, that are basically dead weight now too. Garnett? Ward? Tartt? Maybe Arik?
    I simply see horrendous weaknesses in what our current FO is doing.

    Dealing a Pick for Shon Coleman, as an example. Could they not have picked a Rookie in the late RDs?
    Could they have struck gold with Nick, as Belichick did with Tom?
    Now, they have Jimmy’s Contract, (and the knee rehab), hanging over the decisions needed to improve other areas of the team.

    They nailed Kittle, a guy you identified early on.
    They still have glaring needs at WR, FS and CB. Areas where a FA could quickly improve the situation. Money, money, money.

    Money and Picks.
    Can’t have enough of either in this game.
    Belichick has made a career out of Blue Collar/Lunch pail guys that he took time to develop.
    I just think Jimmy has a lot to prove, yet, is being paid like a proven Vet. It will impede an honest competition, simply because of the Contract involved.

    And yes, The Hekawi Leadership Council is going to outlive me as well. Doesn’t mean we can’t be critical.
    I Challenge Authority. I favor competition as a means to improve.

  107. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


    In a one gap defensive scheme, defensive linemen tend to get more sacks and tackles than two gap defensive linemen.Keep in mind, a 4-3 front can run a two gap scheme or combination of one gap and two gap scheme

    Ok. Obviously two-gap lineman have to be big. In our front the 1-tech is the only possible two-gapper. A 276 lb is one-gap only. Get his hat in the crack, and go up field.

    One-gap rookies take one year to learn the trade. Two-gap rookies take two years.

    How does Thomas grade out.

  108. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    1 sack and 6 qb hits. Aaron Donald can do that in one game, especially against us. Solomon Thomas did that in 644 snaps over 16 games, 13 of those he started in 2018.

    One gap technique,run and pass, typically learned in one year by a rookie. What does Lynch say in pressers to prop up this guy. He cannot get sacks at nickel DT or edge.

    It is embarrassing to have to point this out.

  109. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    KStreet is still in waiting in the wings from the last Draft.
    Potential there for interior line help, though ACL rehab involved.
    Limited to 5 Picks as it stands now. Working the Senior Bowl provides some exposure to guys that might be less visible on the radar too.
    However, Gruden has more ammo to play with. he’ll be working the same guys in Mobile.
    If Lynch is willing to gamble, he could get some offers for slot 2.
    Might involve Quinnen, Bosa too.

  110. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Prediction: our 1st Rd pick on DL. Lots of picks and trades during the draft. Best time to slip through a Thomas trade and to release a statement as to why the trade was done.

  111. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    KStreet is listed at 6’2″/287 and, played well alongside BChubb last year.
    Still hope for Jullian Taylor as a developmental candidate too. He got some work this year and, should get better with reps.

    Josh Allen is an OLB. More suited to 3-4?
    Good news this year is, deep Front 7 options.
    If Lynch gets a sizeable offer, adding Picks, and passing on a quality guy, is what’s on the table.
    If they avoid spending Picks on FS and WR, he could afford to gamble a little perhaps?
    Earl Thomas in FA, maybe some sort of offer to acquire a WR could be the way to go?
    ABrown? Expensive option, but could work if Picks are retained.
    OBJr? Extremely expensive and, a major head case. I’d completely avoid that route.

  112. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This kid is solid too – played against lesser competition however.
    He’ll be at the Senior Bowl, giving Shanny & Co time to evaluate him against better competition.
    He’s listed at 6’5″/262.
    Might consider sliding back if able, and seeing whether he could be a good candidate to add while picking up additional Picks?


  113. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Outside of Jimmy G, the FA contracts are small to moderate. Lots of FA’s fail. With all the injuries, maybe Goody’s people need to increase roster sizes. More players on their first contract give coaches time to develop around all the injuries nowadays.

    Soon DeFo will be joining Jimmy on the A List. If Cap goes up, roster size needs to also. Available cap is shrinking, which includes all of our FA fails.

  114. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit what’s the story on Charles Omenihu?
    He’s going to be in Mobile also. I’ll get a look at him then.

  115. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Is there any way our 2nd and 3rd can be moved into the 1st. There may be little trade down activity in top 15. Any trade down will not bring the picks without QB’s rated high.

    The siren song of demon pass rushers from tier 2 schools and tier 2 competition. Senior Bowl and combine can help avoid overdrafts.

    Gordon Lightfoot had The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Who will write and sing The Wreck of the Solomon Thomas. We cannot afford another bust. A top 15 pick needs to be a franchise player, not just a starter. And definitely not worse, Thomas hurts bigly.

  116. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The hype around Bosa could bring plenty of offers if AZ doesn’t take him at 1.
    No QB hype this year. It’s about the pass rushers.

  117. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Gonna keep a close eye on Jaylon in Mobile. Shanny & Co will be too, I’m sure –


  118. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Charles Omenihu was Big 12 defensive lineman of the year
    He is projected as a late second/early third round pick.
    He was Texas’ most effective pass rusher He could add depth if he is still on the board in the 4th roun

    I would pass on Antonio Brown. He has great talent but what I read about his diva attitude hat would be a cancer in the locker room.

    He is TO 2.0 yelling at coaches on the sideline and berating fellow players. He will be 31 in Jul and on downside of career. No thanks

  119. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh, AB has me scratching my head as well Bullit.
    OBJr is an even more expensive pain in the A$$ too.
    For all the talent he has, he’s quite the distraction.

    Saw a piece tonight about ‘Quise spending some time at the Sugar Bowl with Earl Thomas.
    Have a feeling he’s going to be on the FA radar for Saleh.

  120. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bakkentom, I’m proposing a scenario where Lynch, (if he’s willing to gamble), could leverage a Pass Rusher as Trade bait in slot 2.
    Example, Quinnen or Bosa there and, offers come aplenty.
    If it meant landing 2 or more Picks and, we get into the 10-15 range, it might be something to consider?
    Of course that would mean a guy like Jaylon turns their heads enough to take that sort of chance.
    Jaylon is getting late 1st RD grades right now, which is due to all the talent ahead of him from the more prominent programs.
    If he holds up well in Mobile against those guys, his stock will rise.
    Something to consider while we wait on things to come into focus.

  121. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Risk. On a trade down does your target get snatched before you can take the pick. Most teams will be looking for pass rush this year. Odds of your secret getting grabbed is pretty high.

    Can we move up that 2nd and find the 2nd pass rusher.

  122. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Watch out.

    From the songs of the sirens in Greek mythology, whose bewitching song lured mariners to their doom.

  123. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:


    She can be our doom.

  124. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17