QB or Not QB

This year’s training camp and preseason games will be quite a bit different than the previous seven years have been. The 49ers are the reigning NFC West champions, not the team that might be good or might be bad. They’re good. Last year’s 13-3 record exorcised a whole heap of doubt and frustration. The burden is now on the other teams in the division to measure up to the Niners, not the other way around.

And “up” is the measurement, too. Not who is less worse from a quartet of mediocre mud wrestlers.

So, while the other three NFCW teams go to camp looking to establish themselves as contenders, the 49ers go in with a set roster and nothing much to do but get ready to defend their crown. Still, there is one fun competition that awaits us, and that is the battle to see who will take the lead in the yearly effort to run Alex Smith out of town.

Seriously, guys, this will be fun. We haven’t seen as much QB talent on the team in many, many years. It’s a whole different level than Shaun Hill vs Trent Dilfer vs J.T. O’Sullivan vs Nate Davis. We’ve got some young guns in town, itching for a shoot out.

Colin Kaepernick enters camp as the top second banana, but mostly because Harbaalke traded up in the second round of the 2011 draft to select him. He hasn’t actually played much, but if Harballke likes him, he must be good. Right? And unlike the Schmall Four listed above, he’s got all the tools. More tools than Smith. A bigger arm, faster feet, a cooler name, and better looking, too. I, for one, can’t wait to see him play in the preseason games.

I’m less intrigued by Josh Johnson, Jim Harbaugh’s QB while they were both at San Diego U. Josh has a big arm and great tools, too, but he’s short and his star has dimmed a bit since entering the NFL in 2009. He knows Harbaugh’s offense, but that edge won’t last long.

And then there is the sleeper QB, Scott Tolzien. He’s more of the game manager type QB that Smith was tagged with last year and his stock was lifted by showing good QB instincts in his 2011 preseason with San Diego, before getting snatched off the waiver wire by Harbaalke to serve as the 3rd QB last year.

Kaepernick has already been christened “Cappy” by the adoring Faithful, but that may not be in his best interests. After all, Shaun was a “gamer,” Nate was “The Great,” J.T. was “OMG!,” and all of them are gone. Smith, the guy who has outlasted them all, has never been dubbed with an endearing moniker, other than some form of *$%*@%#$#!! And it doesn’t take much imagination to squeeze an “r” into Cappy if his play flies south with the geese.

At the very least, one of these guys will play well enough to give the team legitimate insurance should Smith get injured this year. The 49ers dodged a bullet last year by going through an entire season with two backup QBs who had never played a down in the NFL. Fortune might not be as kind this year.

And at the very best, the guy with the greatest upside, Kaepernick, will look so good when he plays that the future of the team will stretch out gloriously into the future, far past the week to week journey of the resilient Mr. *$%*@%#$#!!.

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49 comments on “QB or Not QB
  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t we have some kind of mini camp next week?

  2. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Starts Monday. Don’t think it’s called a mini-camp, but the team will be practicing.

  3. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Are these practices open to the reporters

  4. bullitbullitNo Gravatar says:

    They will have their first OTA (Organized Team Activity) which means practices without pads and minimal contact.
    Niners will get their playbooks.
    Teams with brand new coaches were allowed to have their OTA 2 weeks earlier.
    Kendall Wright came to visit yesterday and Stephen Hill next week. Michael Floyd’s visit was cancelled as he appears to be a top 15 pick now and out of the Niner’s reach.
    The NFL only allows 30 potential draftees to visit each team excluding local players.

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The players I’m targeting with the 30th pick, and with my limited knowledge, are TE/Fleener, WR/Hill, WR/Wright, CB/Gilmore, CB/Robinson, OG-C/Konz and OG/Zeitler. A safety wouldn’t be bad, but I don’t know who that would be. This list is big enough to think we should get one of these plsyers.

  6. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    SS Harrison Smith looks good. Size, speed, covers and stuffs the run well. CB Jenkins has 1st round talent, but has fallen off the 1st round list due to the dreaded character issues. Might be worth a flier at 30.
    I’m hoping for Fleener. I think he’s a huge red zone target that would immediately pay dividends.

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Harrison Smith would be a good addition because the book on him is he’s an instinctive and smart player who’ll QB your defense.
    No way on Jenkins who has too much baggage. He might be around
    on Saturday of the draft. No way do I want Pacman 2 on the Niners.

  8. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This is why Goodell came down hard on the Aints.
    This is also why the emphasis is on safety now.
    The old guys that were getting hit and making the hits want to see some money.
    Say what you want but Goodell is no dummy and had to do what he did
    or he’d lose his ass in court.

  9. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Please, it’s Baalkebaugh and I have great confidence in it.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Although he doesn’t have the measurables this guy just has the “IT” factor. Maybe the Niners take a look at him. I find Gruden highly entertaining doing this series. He throws darts that are on the money.

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The LFL is also suspended for 2012. This might devasatate some of you.



    Hey it’s a slow night news wise.
    Monday the OTA begins. and 13 days until the draft.

  12. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    OK, ya got me, FoFear. I’ll bite.
    Let me get this straight. Goodell is encouraging lawsuits against the league so his lawyer buddies can make money? Looks like you picked the wrong week to quit smoking crack.
    The ‘rush to get in the compensation line’ has been going on since Rozelle retired, NoFear. The policies that Goodie Goodell is implementing (independent [not team] doctors evaluating concussed players, mandatory days off of practice after concussions, etc etc) may be laughed off by you as a publicity stunt, but it is helping long-term. But the suicides and early deaths are fair collateral damage. As long as you can admire this from your couch.
    You philosophy of letting everything go is wiser? Right.

  13. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Apparently we all don’t have the secret decoder ring to interpet
    what NF posts. Or is he being ironic or srcastic again?

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I have absolutely no compassion for the Aints.To me they are a bunch of arrogant bastards and what they did to the Niners in the first preseason game set the tone what they were up to.
    Maybe it would not have been so bad if there wasn;t a lockout.
    But doing this to a new coach in his first preseason NFL game
    with no preparation in the offseason was simply put not nice.
    The previous year Payton had Ronnie Lott give a motivational speech to the Aints before playing the Niners. Again a pur bush league move. Sean Payton is a real prick from the Niner point of view.
    The Aints got what they deserved
    and that’s what happenes to Aholes.

  15. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    NFL is leaning toward completely eliminating kickoffs. That would certainly decrease the value of special teams players.

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    They can’t eliminate kickoffs because it would take away a huge compinent of the game, the onside kick. Without the onside kick you are screwed if you’re down 2 scores and the clock running down.
    They can’t get around that.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Instead of snarky lame attempts
    to be clever in your ongoing pissing contest, defend your position with facts and have a civil discussion if you’re capable.

    Previous post should read component instead of compinent.

  18. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Today I’ve got Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and Jim Beam Black. I’m wondering if I’ll come up with any more man vs fish comments this week? Time to pour a shot, and drink a beer!

  19. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    That might depend on whether you warmed up at Repo Ed’s first.

  20. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith is being honored at home plate by the SFGiants before tonight’s game.

  21. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    They’re holding up his jersey, signed by all the Giants players. Unca is jealous.

  22. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    OK, NoFear, then what was the point of your 2:07 post? You say the slap on the wrist that NE got would be a proper response? I get that. I don’t agree, but sure, I get it.
    Goodell’s power play? He’s been fairly consistent about safety. As I mentioned earlier, he’s implemented a lot of different procedures around concussions over the past 5 ears. You think it’s window dressing. Fine. Whatever.
    It’s your last sentence that has me baffled. What is Goodell running? The lawyers suing the league? The TV ads? It makes no sense. You have a self-admitted propensity for being unclear. Excuse me for not getting WTF yer talking about. Again.
    Widmer Bros, and maybe a little Knob Creek….

  23. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll trade ya if you get it skeebs.

  24. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Matt Cain presented the jersey to Smith. The legend grows.

  25. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Goodell is trying to to show he is mitigating player’s injuries after career. He is using the present to not have to pay so much for the past. Just give them the pension and medical aid they deserve for helping make the NFL the cash cow they are and stop worrying about law suits. Of course, the union is who decided not to pay, but that is not being reported because the money is in the league. And what reporter is going to make an anti-union report when they are themselves union?
    If the NFL wants to prove their case, just go back to all the taped recordings of all of these players who keep saying they would play for free every time they sign a big contract. I heard Mike Golic and others say they never worried about head injuries, it was more about knees. I also hear constant reports every year of players trying to hide head injuries to their own staff.
    What, no culpability there?
    Can I get back to drinking now?

  26. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m off to party with the Twisted Sisters and Repo Ed. I’ll provide some better entertainment later, or not!

  27. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Did they cheer or boo Smith?
    Better question, was NoFear there or not?

  28. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners will bid on Super Bowl L (50) scheduled for Feb 2016.
    The NFL will most likely award it to the Niners because they invested $200 mil in the stadium.
    Only thing is it’s the 50th SB and a milestone.
    Also the regular season schedule will be released Tues.
    Two weeks from now the draft should be over and we’ll all be looking up guys we never heard of.

  29. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Speak for yourself. NJ49er is my buddy. I know about everybody. NJ does his homework! I used to but I’m too busy running a sales crew these days.
    I need to quit and just sell and be a salesman again. Every time I run a crew the ops and accounting guys think they know more about what we do than we do. Of course they are morons at sales, but every time they see how much we get paid they get jealous.
    My standard reply is if we all quit the company goes bankrupt, if you guys quit we just replace you. Obviously I’m not popular with accounting and ops. Unfortunately, ops is usually the boss.
    The nice thing about what I do for a living is I am in high demand. Everybody promises the world when you are a salesman, when you deliver they get jealous about your income. That is when you find the next liar in ops or accounting. You listen to their promises and work for them until they get jealous and cut you back.
    The cycle never ends.

  30. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, went to the Twisted’s. Repo Ed was there. They were watching a movie. I don’t care for movies , so I left.

  31. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    My favorite Giants player (The Horse) gave his jersey to my least favorite 49er player (no need to mention) after his 1-hit shutout?
    My current consumption of alcohol and hours at therapy can’t handle that thought. Goodness gracious. “Ain’t that a Kick in the Head.”

  32. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    My favorite Dean Martin song!

  33. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, moms (God rest her soul) saw Dino live at the Sands back in ’69. After the show, my mother and father just happened to be eating a late supper at the same restaurant as Dean. Moms was a very shy person, but when it came to the Rat Pack, and especially with a few drinks in her, she felt no boundaries. Dean and Sammy Davis Jr. were having dinner in the booth one section down. Moms went over and told Dean how much she enjoyed the show and just wanted to say “thanks.” Dino asked her if she wanted an autograph and she hurriedly went through her purse and found a baby picture of yours truly. Dean Martin signed the back of one of my 2-year-old portraits.
    Maybe now you guys understand why I love those guys so much.

  34. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- I don’t care much for movies and paintings, although I do respect them as art, but I love sports and music. The Rat Pack was awesome! All of them, especially Frank and Deano.

  35. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    BTW- My sister was the girl you would see driving from LA to LV on the billboard to advertise The Sands!

  36. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I must go to bed. Here is a little gift before I go.


  37. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I was looking at the stats and Delanie Walker might have been a beast on ST but he had a mediocre
    receiving year catching 19 passes and 3 TDs. I do realize his blocking and other things he does sometimes aren’t reflected in the stat sheet.
    He caught 6 passes for 69 yds against the NY Giants 11/13 and didn’t ctch another pass until the NFC Championship Game against those same Giants.
    So that in itself might reason enough to draft Fleener if he’s still on the board at 30.
    Our TEs should be catching 120 receptions between them to make the offense roll. Fleener would help achieve that.

  38. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Did you guys catch the line from the song I left for you last night. “The fate of all mankind is in the hands of fools.” Unfortunately it just seems so true too often.

  39. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    “NFL is leaning toward completely eliminating kickoffs. That would certainly decrease the value of special teams players.”
    That would certainly decrease the interest and enthusiasm of many fans — this one in particular. George Carlin said it best when he coined the phrase, “The Pussification of America.” Well, the NFL is now getting pussified.

  40. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    No offense to your ability to sling the nasties intended, NoFear, but I doubt Carlin ever cleaned up anything for anybody.

  41. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- All of the above! I believe there a lot of good leaders, problem is there are plenty of bad ones too.

  42. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    A wasted mind is a terrible thing to mind, No Fear.
    No the problem is was and will be the lack of anyone particularly compelling on either side. When the voters have a choice between crook A or crook B, you end up with a crook. This is true for any congressional or senatorial election for the past 100 years. We’re at the point where it doesn’t matter anymore. the process goes on regardless. Obama’s change is really Bush III. I don’t get why the republicans are so pissed at Obama since he pretty much carried out Dub’s policies from 2008 on through the present. The only real thing that was different was Obama’s co-opting of Romneycare.
    Give this election season about a month and Romney will be left of Obama.

  43. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Some of us are still waiting for it, NoFear.

  44. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Let me clarify. The one thing that differentiates Obama from Bush’s policies , and what Obama catches the most heat for (Obamacare) wasn’t even his idea. It was Mitt’s.

  45. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Protections for linemen, NoFear? Leg-whipping has been outlawed, as have crack-back blocks. Blocking low on the knees is flagged. High-low blocks have been outlawed. Linemen are all required to wear knee braces to protect their legs. Head-clubbing (a la Deacon Jones) was banned a while ago.
    So, Goodell has too much power, but he has to control what high school and college players do to try and REACH the NFL? Which side of the issue are you on?

  46. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    See, now THAT’S funny.

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Mooch is considering coaching Arkansas with Petrino leaving.

    Jed York was interviewed about the new stadium


  48. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17