Ouch. The 49ers put a serious man hurt on the New York Jets Sunday, steamrolling over them 34-0. It looked like a throwback game to the 1930’s as nine different runners combined for 245 in your face yards on 44 carries. The 49er defense had the day off as the Jets were unable to find an offense to put on the field. As Jets coach Rex Ryan admitted after the game, “We should have just forfeited and saved ourselves the embarrassment.”

The Jets contained Frank Gore fairly well, holding him to 62 yards on 21 carries, but had no answer to Kendall Hunter and the 49ers new secret weapon Colin Kaepernick. Kaepernick looks like the best wildcat QB the league has seen since this type of player was introduced a few years back by, ironically enough, the Jets OC Tony Sparano when he was the head coach of the Dolphins. Tim Tebow, the league’s most famous wildcatter even though he’s mainly a dry hole, could only stand on the sidelines and turn Jet green with envy.

The 49er passing game contributed only modestly to the rout, even trying out Mario Manningham as the new deep threat. Mario was open on several plays, two of them deep sideline routes, with one pass barely eluding his fingertips and the other sailing over his head while he was being impeded by the Jets CB who wouldn’t let go of his arm. The new old refs declined to prosecute the play, proving that new, old, or replacement, the refs are still vision impaired.

It might be folly to read too much into one game, but it looks like the reason Randy Moss hasn’t played much is that he just isn’t very good any more. He can’t outrun anybody, doesn’t want to get hit, and his only contribution Sunday was to thwart a Jets interception of an ill advised Kaepernick bomb into triple coverage. And Michael Crabtree, bless his shy soul, just doesn’t look like anything more than an average, possession receiver. He never gets open by much and isn’t very fast or elusive.

Of all the plays in the game, the one that upcoming opposing DCs will fear the most is the ease with which Kaepernick scored on the QB keeper for the Niners first touchdown. In four games, Kap has been virtually unstoppable as a runner and the 49ers can afford to use him that way because he’s not the starter. If he were the starter, they’d want him to stay in the pocket and avoid the potential damage that guys like Michael Vick absorb over the course of a season. It’s to Jim Harbaugh’s credit that he’s found a way to get such a talented and exciting player on the field. I’d expect to see a lot of Kap as the season unfolds.

All in all, a pretty easy win. But not one that is apt to be repeated.

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  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Kaepernick is making the pro game look like his college days.

  2. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe they’ll try him at WR next.

  3. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve never felt so blasé about a 34-0 win. Sure the D played great, and we ran for 245 yards, but I’m not sure the JETS understand the concept of tackling. My god, they really, really suck.
    Here’s a good quote from the Press Democrat:
    “NY went out of their way to lose this game. When that didn’t work, they tried even harder.”

  4. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Good one, Barley.

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Our WRs are better than last year but they still are not that good. They killed 3 drives yesterday with 3rd down drops. Two drops were possibly long TDs.

  6. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If Percy Harvin hurt us last week what is CJ Spiller going to do.

  7. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Frank Gore needs 739 yards to become the 49ers all time rusher.

  8. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Kaepernick package of plays is not the wildcat but has been designated “the wolfpack” which should make Berger proud.

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    The Bills lost 2 of their starting Olinemen yesterday including their LT
    Spiller had only 38 yds total yesterday.
    Let’s not forget that the Jest crushed the Bills in week one.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    October is the NFL Cancer Awareness Month when all the pink comes out.
    The Colts are announcing their head coach Chuck Pagano has been diagnosed with Leukemia and is taking a leave of absence.
    Bruce Arians will be the interim head coach.
    That’s a tough one considering this is only the 4th game of Pagano’s rookie HC season.

  11. DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I cannot believe these “fans”. After reading Cohn’s idiotic grades, they had endless complaints about how “their” 3-1 team blew out a 2-2 east coast team in their yard. Did no one stop to think WHY the Jets looked so horrible? 2 years ago they complained about the play calling cuz everyone knew what was coming. Now they complain about “trick” plays. Now we have a QB controversy again.

  12. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- I defend Alex Smith because he is a good QB in a land of haters who couldn’t see how much our bad coaching had affected the QB position. Now that we have a good coach, but is conservative, those haters are still hating, or at best, just not not seeing what they want to see, so they still default to blaming the QB. This 49er team reminds me a lot of the early 70’s Dolphins. Even the QB. Smith plays incredibly similar to Bob Griese.
    Having said all that, Kaepernick has the potential to be a a star. I’m happy with Alex as our QB, but I would be stoked to have Kappy take over the job as our QB. I watched him for years in Reno, nothing he does surprises me. Yesterday might have shown us why is not there yet. He threw into triple coverage when, from what I read from two sources, he had a wide open guy 20 yards down field. He’ll settle down with more seasoning and see that.
    There is no need to rush him when we already have a capable QB at the helm. Kappy was one big play after another in college. And that was with his arm and his feet. He’ll be treating the NFL the same way soon.

  13. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- Spiller was playing with a bad shoulder yesterday. He was very limited. He should be healthy against us. Fred Jackson was playing at about 75% too. I did not know the Bills lost two O-linemen. Are they out for next week?

  14. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis- Grant Cohn is the leader of the Alex haters. I called DelMarDennis after the game thinking he would be as happy as I was over a 34-0 win. All he wanted to talk about is how we suck because Alex is our QB. I had to remind him several times that we won 34-0. When I asked him about the three drive killing dropped passes I’m not sure if he even saw them. I sure most of the Smith haters did not see those drops.

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I agree that Kaepernick is being brought along slowly and will be better for it in the long run.
    What the haters don’t realize is for Smith to be replaced as the starter the team would have to go into a tailspin which would cost them the playoffs.
    Some guys are licking their chops witing for Alex Smith to fail.
    We blew out the Jest in NY but they just want to say Smith had a bad game.
    Drew Brees is a QB god to some but his team is 0-4 and pretty soon the paper bags will come out again.

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Correction Grant Cohn is the #2 Alex hater next to his senile dad
    Lowell who is the #1 sheet disturber and is the only reason Grant has a job.

  17. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- I thought Alex played the perfect game for the running game we had yesterday. If he has a little help from his receivers he has a good stat game too. I counted 4 drops, three on 3rd down.
    I read the article you provided said the 2 Blls O-linemen are out next week.

  18. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Run /trick run game was strong, Smith was mediocre, receivers were poor.
    Kap threw to Moss because that was the playcall. He should be far enough along to see he was well covered and to throw elsewhere, with more playing time I think he will.
    Other than that play he was strong and decisive and gives opposing D something other than our run game to think about.

    Skeebs good post.

  19. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Anybody noticed Goldson had another great game? He was very good in coverage and delivered some tenacious hits.

  20. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    That deep ball knock down was a thing of beauty Berger.

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners are 9 or 10 point favorite
    depending on which sportsbook you believe/

  22. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Stupid quote of the week
    “Titans guard Leroy Harris said after the game that if you take away those two sacks, JJ Watt didn’t have a very good game.

    “He’s not anything special,” Harris said of Watt after the game, via Tania Ganguli of the Houston Chronicle. “I locked him down most of the game except those two plays.”

  23. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    My boy, Goldson, is the best safety in the game right now. Let’s hear the Unca/Bullit retard show talk about Goldson’s “bad angles.” And Berger, don’t be jumping onto the Spitblood bandwagon…. I back a guy like Goldson and support him, or Eli or Locker or Dalton, then you jump on. It’s classic Berger.

  24. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Stinkblood- I’ve been defending Goldson for a long time.

  25. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I called out Eli ansd Dalton to be good pros while they were in college. I was on Locker’s bandwagon when he was a freshman and have since jumped off a long time ago. He is not as good as you think he is. He might have a chance if his system goes to the spread.

  26. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    LMAO! And Smith stinks, too… right?

  27. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Berger – the only thing I’ve ever seen you get right (honestly) is Red Bryant and B.J. Raji. That’s it.

  28. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    I was pining for a bomb from the QB, even if no one was open. I didn’t think it would come from CK though. It was triple coverage, and I only watched the play twice, but I thought if he threw it sooner, Moss had the angle. IIRC, Moss had to slow and the triple coverage converged. 
    Our defense rocks. But go ahead and call me a pessimist, I have doubts about our O. Still. I guess if one doesn’t worship at the Alter of Alex, they’re a “hater”, and so therefore, I must be. I can’t shed nagging doubts about how he sees the field, his decision making speed, the consistency of his accuracy, and his conservative decisions. That last is a double edge sword, I get that. Less turnovers = good. More chance = more turnovers. With a strong defense and special teams, being somewhere in between the two seems about right.
    He didn’t have bad game really. The Jets have an anemic pass rush and we were never really tested. But we will be tested. Count on it.

  29. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, agree with your 8:20. Kaep could be a franchise type guy if he gets his head around the game. He has huge upside.
    As for Spiller, I think he will not hurt us as much as Percy did. Percy had a very good game from Ponder, running and making plays on the move, to help him. He had AP running, and Rudolph caught us with our shorts down on the first drive. I can’t see Fitz and company doing all that. I think we win; closer than we’d like, but I think we win. 24-20ish.

  30. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The game plan was much better yesterday than for Minn. The deeper routes by the WRs openend up the running lanes and kept the safeties further back. Something sorely lacking in the Minn game. Timing is everything. They just need to tighten up the mid-range and deeper passes, and this O will start cliking.

    Yeah, nice play by Goldson, Sticky. You want a medal? You wanted Sanchez and NcNabb and Nate Davis as our QB. Doh!
    1 step forward, 5 steps back. Sorry, skippy. Go back under your rock and beat off to your Mark Sanchez poster.

  31. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    And the play by Goldson as I said over at Chuck’s, was the best play yet I’ve seen him make on a ball in the air. That was a Merton Hanks level play, approaching an Eric Wright level play. Outstanding.

  32. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Goldson is the next Ed Reed… with more pop. Let’s not forget last year Goldson lead the team in INTs – overshadowed by Rogers.

  33. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    He’s always had the pop, and he’s always had the hands for the pick. All he needs is to stay disciplined and diagnose correctly. If he gets his head around how to play the position, he’ll go to multiple Pro Bowls. That play is an example of what his athleticism can do for the defense when he understands his assignment and what the offense is doing.

  34. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Berger — regarding our better than last year but still not that good receiving corps, it makes me wonder when (if) we’ll see our number one pick. Granted, he may still not be ready, or even better than who we suit up, but he does have speed galore, and it’s hard to learn the game and speed of the RS when your inactive each week.

  35. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, did anyone get any closer than my 34-6 prediction (with a TD by the D)? Do I win anything?

  36. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners have to make a decison on Ginn and K Williams.They have the same role and skillsets and when both are active that’s a huge roadblock for Jenkins.
    Both Jenkins and James were luxury picks and may never see the field unless multiple players get hurt.
    James could have a quicker path if could perform Dixon’s dirty work on special teams which apparently he can’t.

  37. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I watched the Steelers-Jets game. Last week I watched the Jets “beat” the Fins.
    I considered this a bye week.

  38. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Barley, if Cappy didn’t slide before the TD, I woulda naioled the 41 points.
    Frankly, I’d keep KW. He’s a much better WR than Ginn, and he’s younger and cheaper. He seems to have overcome his PR issues and his KRs are better than average.
    Seeing as James is about 40 lb lighter than Dixon, I don’t think they are going to subject him to that role, Bullitt.
    Goldson is doing a better job so far of not overcommiting on play-action and biting on the double moves. Good for him. His play on the deep ball yesterday, as Grump said, was the best of his career, hands down.

  39. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Barley – our wide receivers are just fine. Manningham, Crabtree, Moss, Vernon Davis, Kyle Williams, Ted Ginn and Delanie Walker would be superstars with Aaron Rogers. Don’t let Berger get your goat.

  40. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ginn’s role appears to be a WR sweep runner. They used Manningham in that yesterday. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ginn traded.

  41. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Williams returns are a least as good as Ginn, and Ginn has proven fragile.

  42. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Ginn’s ability to take the “top off” the defense has also been replaced by Moss. I still like the kid, though, even though Grump has a fantastic video of Ginn doing a great Stevie Wonder impersonation.

  43. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I like Williams as a receiver and a return man. I think Moss still has a lot left but lets face it, his game is deep and our offense isn’t exactly friendly to that without Kap being in. I also think Kap under threw Moss and threw it rainbow style giving the DB’s time to get there, and even so it was well worth trying.
    Keep throwing deep a few times a game and it loosens up the entire defense giving the O more options in the staple short game we have.

  44. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Walker’s dropping his way off the team at this point.

  45. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I also think like Stinky says, the clock is ticking now as to when not if Kap gets his shot. Kap had some good plays and in the future he will have bad ones but the underlying premise is he has more dimension than Smith so it’s a matter of time IMO.
    As of right now I think Smith gives the Niners the best chance of winning but what I really have concerns over is the playoffs. I just don’t trust he can overcome 3 good teams in a row in sudden death when there is no margin for an off game. Yes we all saw his playoff run last year which amounted to very good play for portions of the games, enough to beat NO and not enough for the Giants. There is a lot to be said for his style of conservative play given the overall team strength but when its not enough and he needs to make it happen I feel like it’s 50/50 if he will or not.
    Long season in front and 3-1 is a great place to be for now, I just wish I was more confident about the playoffs, maybe the offense improves over the course of the season and that changes. An offense that went 0-5 on third down is the same offense of last year (QB and receivers at fault), still waiting for THAT game that shows what the O can really do.

  46. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Walker used to be sure handed, since his broken jaw he seem’s to drop half of everything that goes his way.

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith threw 2 deep balls to Crabtree (one resulting in a PI)
    and one to Manningham off his one handed lunge.
    Smith completed a 26 yd ball to Manningham and a 25 yd to Walker.
    Walker is a UFA after this year.

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s a rule I didn’t know.
    If the QB leaves the pocket the 5 yd illegal contact foul no longer applies to the defense.
    Last week I saw a DB shoving Crabtree out of bounds 15 yds downfield and there was no flag because Alex Smith was rolling right out of the pocket.
    Now I know and won’t melt down when this happens again.

  49. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Crabs had a down game for him, he will be looking for a bounce back game against the Bills. Manningham is coming on and is versatile. I think he and Crabs will make a solid WR duo with cameo appearances from Moss and Williams. I like Williams as a receiver, particularly if used on the slant because he is so first step quick. Tough to see Jenkins getting much suit time unless injuries hit.

  50. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I agree with whoever said Kaepernick ran the script on the pass to Moss. But he was supposed to throw it higher so Moss could go up for it. It was worth the effort with so little downside and Alex wouldn’t have to take the INT.
    And I don’t think Kaepernick’s slide short of the TD was to avoid “running up the score” on Ryan’s hapless lot. Running out the clock in the kneel down was the big idea there.
    I have to laugh when I read the latest Alex defense of drops and fouls uncalled. Poor Alex is the only QB in the league that suffers from those things. Poor Alex.
    Do you hand wringers ever watch a real QB play? There’s a whole different world out there in real pro QB land.
    If we had an offense we’d be unstoppable. It’s been the albatross around the neck of this team since ’05. What a coincidence.

  51. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Delanie Walker has never had good hands – see the Detroit game when Moose was yelling, “Turn your hands around, Delanie.” Delanie is a blocking H-back, FB, TE. It was the same thing I was saying about Delanie years ago, but the thing is Delanie is still an important part of the offense because of his versatility and his blocking. He’ll never, though, be a big part of the offense, scoring TDs or racking up a lot of yards. He might make a big play, but his hands, like Vernon’s, are suspect. That being said, though, Kyle, Vernon, Mario, Randy, Crabs, Delanie, Frank and Kendall are more skilled as a unit than really any other team in the NFL with the two exceptions maybe being the Packers and Saints.
    With the Saints, I’d take Graham over Vernon, Colston over Crabtree, Manningham over Moore or Henderson. But it’s close, and I’d definitely take Gore and Hunter over Thomas and Sproles.
    With the Packers, I’d take Vernon over Finley, Nelson over Moss, Jennings over Crabtree, and Cobb over Manningham (even though Cobb plays a different role). But our rbs are far superior.
    If you put Brees or Rogers on the 49ers, I might feel a lot differently about those matchups. In fact, I know I’d feel differently. Our skills position players are good enough to win a Super Bowl with. They’re at least in the same conversation with the Packers and Saints’ skill position players. The problem is our qb can’t play in the playoffs. We all know it. Skeebers and Berger just don’t get it, that’s all.

  52. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I suppose Mark Sanchez is part of ‘real QB land, eh?
    A real offense? Christ, what do you want? 250 yards on the ground and 300 in the air? Yeah, Smith missed on the longer passes. The idea is to work on this stuff as the season goes on. This is a new set of WRs. Expecting them all to click from the get-go is unrealistic.
    Your expectations are laughable.

  53. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Anyone notice that Kaep’s TD run against the Jets was the same play Smith ran into the end zone against the Saints? Staley out front? Kaep made it look easy.

  54. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Seeing as Smith never gets credit when he does well, NoFear, I wouldn’t expect anything less from the likes of you.
    13-3 in the reg season last year, and you show your face after the playoff loss.
    Smith is what he is. Maddeningly inconsistent. He hasn’t shaken that moniker yet. He very well could be this year’s version of Steve DeBerg. Or Jim Plunkett.
    Like I said, the encouraging thing was to SEE a lot of midrange to deep passes. Even if they don’t work, they open up the running lanes if the safeties think the passes will be deeper. I’ll take 250 on the ground every day of the week and 2x on Sunday.
    Brees threw for 450 and lost. Folks around here say “If we had Rodgers” or “If we had Brees”. You know what THEY are saying? “I wish we had SFs ground game.” Think NO would like our running game? Or the Pack, or any other team? If they had our run game, THEIR numbers would be in the 250 range. You think Brees would give up some of his 1,350 yards for a couple wins?
    I’ll take 125 and the win. The season of the QB is closing fast. The ground attack is on it’s way back. . . . .

  55. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith is the qb of the most complete team in the NFL but he still can’t win Super Bowls. Harbaugh knows this and it’s why Harbaugh is starting to incorporate Kaep into the offense with situational football. I was saying Harbaugh would do this over the off season. I was saying that Harbaugh would use Kaep in 3rd and long situations and he’d use JJ around the goal line. JJ obviously didn’t make the team, but the premise still stands – Alex Smith, with the best team around him in the NFL, needs help in the red zone and on 3rd downs. Kaep will take over soon. It’s just a matter of time before Berger, Unca and Skeebers are left saying they never liked Alex Smith.

  56. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:


  57. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Why don’t you just shut up and go back to your abandoned playground, Sticky? It’s only a matter of time before you wear out your welcome here. And that won’t be a moment too soon. As usual, you have some points, but you have to revert to your 5 year old behavior of acting like the biggest dickhead west of the Mississippi.
    Harbaugh is doing what he needs to do to get wins. Adding Cappy yesterday may not be a one-off situation, but it isn’t an every game occurence. I think yesterday was a bit of gamesmanship on dear Jim’s part. As in, Tebow this! I don’t think Cappy plays vs Buffalo.
    Vs the NYG’s? Sure. They overpursue, and Cappy can be used to the Niners advantage there. This isn’t a situation of the Niners weaning out Smith and bringing in Cappy to take over. Not in the immediate future anyway.
    Unless Smith completely implodes (and I mean 5 straight games like Sanchize pulled off yesterday) or gets injured does Cappy get a ton of playing time this year.

  58. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    The rantings of a narcissistic moron who thinks he’s the only one who has it all figured out are meaningless to me.
    Rave on to the sycophants on your little blog. They seem to like it, as long as you stay within the limits Twinfan allows you.
    Did you get that link fixed yet?

  59. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    “Why don’t you just shut up?” LMAO!!! I win. LMAO!!!!

  60. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    As usual, NoFear gets defensive and reverts to name-calling when proven wrong. All wins are team wins. All losses fall to Alex Smith. Got it. No difference between 2010 and 2011. Doh!!
    And little Stinkle stamps his little feet and begs for attention. Look at ME! LOOK AT ME!!
    Hyuk!! Good to see some things don’t change. Tweedle-dick and tweedle-dork are in fine fettle.

  61. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I figured removing the link would baffle you to no end, NoFear.
    It worked.

  62. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    “Why don’t you just shut up?”
    LMAO – that’s my new favorite post.
    It’s just a matter of time before Unca, Skeebers and Berger claim they never liked Alex Smith.

  63. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t think the run game is “rushing” back just yet Chuck. Those offenses have little to no meaningful run game and in general less than stellar defenses, disproportionately out of whack. I doubt we will see a shift to the 2000 Ravens anytime soon. Niners are in the enviable position of being good to great in most areas but that’s a feat that’s hard to duplicate without sucking for a long time and building largely through the higher draft picks.
    I also do think it’s the start of seeing what Kap has to offer and the clock has started. Near term I agree it’s unlikely Kap starts unless Smith gets injured (he does take a lot of hits), or he suddenly starts to suck for 3 games-ish which puts the playoffs in danger, something I don’t think will happen but hey, it’s football.

    Kap adds a new dimension, did you see the angles the D took on him? He made them look so bad with pure speed, that kid has wheels. Next I’d like to see him exploit the D by running then throwing before the LOS after the safeties have bit. I’d guess there would be some nice stuff open downfield.
    It would be a surprise if the Niners don’t continue to use him each game and expand his role a little, he is one hit away from starting as it is.

  64. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    12th man…. I would add to that what Greg Roman said at the beginning of last year. “Can Smith win four games and play great football during the playoffs to win a Super Bowl? We’ll see.”
    Harbaugh and Roman know that Smith is limited. That evidence is clear – Kaep, Hasslebeck and Peyton Manning. But the connection that people aren’t see or admitting to is the connection between the Vikings loss, the Jets game where Kaep got a lot of reps, and the upcoming playoffs. It’s my contention that Harbaugh and Roman know they need to get Kaep ready for the playoffs because Kaep at qb is the 49er’s only real chance to win a Super Bowl. Didn’t Roethlisberger win a Super Bowl in his second year? Didn’t Walsh?
    Don’t give me this…. He’s not ready, or Smith gives us a better chance. Harbaugh is slowly phasing in Kaep, and the transition has begun.
    It’s just a matter of time before Unca, Skeebers and Berger say they never liked Alex Smith.

  65. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:


  66. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Stinky, I am guessing Niners will get a bye so 3 games should be it. Of course Harbs and Roman know Smith is limited, they take great care to put him in positions he can succeed in. The problem is when they get to the playoffs and very good teams with strong defenses will find a way to take him out of his comfort zone. Smith is playing well and for the regular season I believe he is more than capable, with this team, of winning enough games to make playoffs. From then on I am far from confident he can win against the best defenses 3 in a row.
    I expect the Niners to use Kap to some extent all season, trying different packages and looking for areas of strength he could be used especially in the red zone and 3rd and long. He is one more arrow in the quiver so why not use him.
    So far it’s been a version of the college game for him, but I agree with Berger he is capable of more and given Harbs naturally conservative approach I think they spoon feed him a few plays a game to build his confidence. Smith is far more experienced and game ready today, but I agree they are beginning the transition albeit slowly.

  67. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I should say they are exploring the transition.

  68. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I was real pleased the way Hunter looked, the kid is a gamer. I love this team but I don’t think we will go to far if our O continues to play like it has. We did get a lot of running yards yesterday and they totally dominated the game. But, that won’t happen when we play the good teams. Our OL is the reason we did so well yesterday and of course our D. We seem to be off where our timing is concerned. Our passing game still does not seem to be insync and that’s without pointing fingers at anyone in particular.

  69. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    12th – we aren’t here to make the playoffs. We are here to win the Super Bowl. Harbaugh and Roman know this. This is why Kaep is starting his transition to full time starter.

  70. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Winder, go on, point a finger, it’s fun. I half expected Hunter to be the featured back at some point this year as he is so good. Thing is Gore is amazingly still producing at such a high level Hunter maybe won’t get that opportunity until next year.
    It’s a great problem to have 2 franchise quality RB’s vying for time.

  71. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Winder, if we didn’t point fingers, NoFear and Stinky would have nothing to post. Hey, wait a minute . . .
    The transition, if it happens will be next year at the earliest. If anything, they are transitioning to a longer passing game now.
    And, developing your game plan to the strengths of your QB is nothing new. Walsh did it, Shula, Coryell, on and on. NoFear still hasn’t grasped this concept.
    And, apropos of nothing, here’s Frank Zappa jamming with Pink Floyd, circa 1969.

  72. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    If I was a betting man, like Del, I would put money that the odds are you’re right Chuck and Kap gets a fair shot in camp next year, but there’s a long way to go and an untold story as yet this year, so we shall see. If Kap has good success his playing time goes up if not not, econ 101.

  73. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Getting back to our offense and specifically the passing game. There are a lot of variables to consider and the reasons for dropped balls is just some of them
    Alex threw a couple of good balls to Manningham and Walker but didn’t come close to hitting some wide open receivers. I can’t tell if our guys are getting bumped out of their routes or if the pressure of the D is getting Alex out of his rhythm. We are now in the second year with the same program and it seems we should be more on the same paqe. Getting some new WR’s is probably holding us back a little but I’m really not seeing a confident Smith which maybe due to playing only 4 games. If Cappy can pinpoint his passes and has the ability to avoid some of the defensive schemes then we should see more of him this year.

  74. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Winder – exactly. There’s a lot of meat left on the bone. It’s like in the NFC Championship game when Bradshaw and Howie Long were saying, “Smith needs to capitalize because the opportunities in the passing game are there.” Smith missed four or five wide open receivers along the sidelines in the Jets game. Kaep would have hit on a few of those big plays.

  75. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    TD Tony Romo! To CB Tillman of the Bears.

  76. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, I’m keeping my eye out for “real” QBs here tonight. Romo tosses a ridiculous taint and over throws a wide open Bryant by five yards, costing a TD. I guess he can’t be a real QB.

  77. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I love it when Dalles looks like … couldn’t happen to a better franchise.

  78. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Alex can’t be any good, he’s only 16-4 in his last 20 games. If you don’t Like Alex Smith you could not have liked Bob Griese. They play the exact same way.

  79. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Good Tony 7, Bad Tony 21.

  80. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Berger – I think Alex played exceptionally well last season and gave us fans and the organization some much needed hope, enjoyment, and success. I still believe that at the moment he’s the best option we have to get to the playoffs. He is tough as nails and has turned into a great leader.I just think he lacks some skills that other Great QB’s have. One of those is the ability to read the defense and the other is touch on both his short and long passing game. He has improved by leaps and bounds compared to where he was from 07-10.

  81. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    winder, money synopsis.

  82. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    winder- You’d rather have Tony Romo?

  83. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll answer. HELL NO. I’ll give Alex that much credit.

  84. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Well, it’s official…. I now hate Bob Griese. Romo has always been horrible. I’d rather have Romo than Alex Smith, but Romo sucks. And Cutler? You can see the talent. He just needs an offensive line and a run game. When he was in Denver, Shanahan gave him both and Cutler was good. With the Bears, the Bears give him nothing – no weapons, no line, no run game. And even though the Bears have Forte, it doesn’t mean they have a run game. Like we’re seeing with Harbaugh, you need to have a coach to have a good running scheme. Just having a RB doesn’t get the job done. Jimmy Raye? You give Cutler some support, and not Mike Martz or Chilo Rachal, and Cutler is a good qb. Now Tony Romo, he stinks and he’ll always stink. And Bob Griese? Can’t say I ever saw him play, but he sucks… real bad.

  85. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    nobody except Del would rather have Romo Berger

  86. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I’d rather have Romo. Harbaugh could fix the turnovers.

  87. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    and Stinky apparently, which doesn’t reflect well on Stinky.

  88. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    4 picks Stinky, JC couldn’t fix that shit.

  89. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    its not like its the first game Romo played right?

  90. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve been watching the Giants-Dodgers, I check the box score of Dallas-Chicago game at ESPN, Romo has 5 picks. WOW! Del is probably drinking heavy. I don’t dare to call.

  91. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    He didn’t get any help from Dez Bryant, but those two pick 6’s were fun. The second one was a riot.

  92. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    12th – You didn’t see any improvement in Alex Smith’s game when Harbaugh got here? Smith was almost out of the league. Oh yeah, I forgot, Smith matured on his own and we have more great stuff to come from Smith “NEXT YEAR.” Whatever. Harbaugh helped Smith to protect the football. What’s the number one thing Harbaugh said his qb must do? Protect the football. You emphasize it, you do it. Romo can actually throw a spiral. Smith thinks he’s a punt, throwing everything end over end.

  93. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:


  94. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    don’t understand where your coming from Stinky. Smith was DONE before Harbaugh. He was coddled and closeted and became all the way up to average under Harbaugh, itself a huge improvement. Maybe we have a mis-communication but I don’t understand your point.

  95. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I hate Tony Romo and wouldn’t want him near the Niners.

  96. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Berger – My point is that Smith improved under Harbaugh. Harbaugh took a zero and made him a two. But the two doesn’t win you Super Bowls. Cutler and Romo are currently 4s, respectively. If Harbaugh can take Smith from a 0 to a 2, he could take a Romo or a Cutler from a 4 to a 6 or even a 7 and maybe win a Super Bowl. You can’t win a Super Bowl with Smith, but Harbaugh could win a Super Bowl with Romo or Cutler because they can naturally throw deep. Cutler or Romo with Harbaugh and we’d win Super Bowls. With Alex Smith, we lose in the playoffs.

  97. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t agree with that Stinky, Smith is a known commodity, both Cutlet and Romo are wildly inconsistent, no matter what Harbaugh did won’t change that. Tortoise and the hare fits well here.

  98. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I wouldn’t want either one on the Niners. Now give me Eli and we can talk . lol

  99. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe Cutler. He thrived under Mad Mike’s offense, but the Bear O-line, lack of a serious running back and receivers got him killed.
    Romo? Not. Troy Aikmen he ain’t.

  100. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Cutler has a rifle arm and needs a completely different offense than Harbaugh-ball.
    If you want a real QB for this offense, look at Christian Ponder.

  101. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So what exactly did Kaepernick do yesterday to take over as the starting QB? He ran 5 times for 50 yds with the last long run of 30 yds in garbage time.
    He was 0 for 1 passing. He ran for a 7 yd TD which was impressive.
    We won 34-0 let’s replace the starter and we’re going to become an triple option team.
    Listen to this hater troll BS and you think we lost 34-0.
    I’ve said this many times Spitoon is not a 49er fan, just a myopic egomaniac who like to fantasize
    he’s smarter than Baalke/Harbaugh.

  102. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    This is a 49er blog, and right now I have nothing to say about the Niners. But I would like to say this:
    Watching the Cowboys get their butts kicked Never. Gets. Old.

  103. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:


  104. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Well there goes another Prime Time visit to the Cowpattie Palace.
    Sorry I couldn’t see all the high fiving going on in the owners perch.
    Tony effing Promo. Americas Team.
    Eff off Jerruh. Your ‘Boys suck.
    It starts with the GM and ends with the puppets on the payroll.
    I damn near attended my 1st 9er home game on Sunday too.
    Shook hands with Merton Hanks outside the Stadium too.
    So much red in the stands the NYJ fans were pissed.
    Almost all of them split early in the 3rd Qtr too.
    All in all, a great day in NJ when you shut up, and shut out, the loud mouths of Gang Green.
    Now known as GAG Green.

  105. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers, do you think Alex would be running the offense under Walsh?
    If Walsh would have rejected him, why is he good enough for you?
    Not Greise, Berger, I think you mean Dilfer.

  106. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    12th – Smith only became a “known” commodity after Harbaugh got here. Smith under Singletary? Troy Smith beat out Alex Smith. Singletary later said at the combine after he was fired, “You can’t win without a qb.” Alex Smith wasn’t “wildly inconsistent.” Alex Smith just sucked all over. Smith didn’t protect the football until Harbaugh got here. Remember the Eagles’ game when Smith fumbled the ball away trying to make a play? That was horrific. But Harbaugh shut that down when he got to town. It increased Smith’s value. Remember – it was up in the air if Smith was coming back. Harbaugh tried to get Hasslebeck, and when he didn’t, Harbaugh declared, “I can win with Alex Smith.”
    Bottomline – both Romo and Cutler have had a lot of different coaches and coordinators in their time (something that was said repeatedly about Smith) and none of them with the exception of Shanahan have been very good. You give Cutler or Romo a good coach like Harbaugh, a former NFL qb himself, Cutler and Romo would shine brighter than Smith…. why? Because they both have more tools than Alex Smith.
    What did the Singletary to Harbaugh handoff teach us all? Coaching in the NFL is EVERYTHING. Cutler and Romo just need coaches, but I’m so glad Romo doesn’t have a coach because I freakin’ hate the Cowboys.

  107. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Romo had his career beaten out of him by Jerry Jones.
    Cutler is a very good QB who has always had problems recognizing where the safeties are.

  108. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Ha! I think that’s exactly right, Rufus. Well put.

  109. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I just saw my earlier post about greasy burgers. Probably should have reworded that one.

  110. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Smith has similar issues reading his progressions as well.
    His accuracy has improved with the exception of MN.
    He locks onto his primary target too often and, has a tendancy to eat the ball because, I believe he doesn’t trust himself to stick a throw in a tight window.
    He’s doing what this Offense asks of him.
    We saw Kaep get involved on Sunday & I suspect he’ll be given enough work to keep him ready for any injury replacement duty as the year goes on.
    I believe he’s still got issues with mechanics too. He throws a ‘flat’ ball too often IMO.
    He needs more air and touch at times, especially those sideline patterns he was trying against Revis’ replacement Wilson.
    Had he put a little more air under a few of those throws, the WRs run under it and keep on going.
    Alex needs work.
    Harbaugh knows what to do.
    For now, take the Wins and keep this thing on the rails.

  111. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Now look at the pretty boy QB in Dallas, explain why he’s always referred to as a top tier QB?
    He’s Mark Sanchez when it comes to forcing throws and not recognizing coverages.
    Tony Promo. Oh No. Don’t throw….

  112. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I do think Alex can be a very competent QB in the typical WCO short passing game, once he gets his timing in line with his targets.
    Kyle and Kendall are good quick burst guys that could feast on more screen type plays.
    LMJ should also be in that mix when he’s activated for duty.
    Roman tends to be conservative it seems, with what he’s willing to show opponents on film.
    Gotta figure we work on plenty of stuff during the week that never gets into the game plan.

  113. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe true, NJ49er, ‘he does what is asked of him’, but that statement doesn’t include the adjective implied by ‘in our system’, which is ‘little’. IOW, he does what little is asked of him in our system.
    Would he not be given more if more would benefit the team’s goal? I think so. The fact that he is not given more in our system would seem to be a statement by the coaches that what he is asked to do is the best he can do without hurting the team.
    Believing that doesn’t require a hatred of the man. Alex is one of the most frustrating QBs I’ve ever watched play.
    Here we don’t consider the amount of QB positives like YPG and TDs and the awesome intangibles one would expect from the QB of a top five team. Instead we pacify ourselves counting the low number of QB negatives like INTs and fumbles. He is getting the hand off and pitch down pretty well. That’s handy.
    I don’t know if Harbaugh always knows what to do. The guy turned in an impressive season. But I haven’t seen how he does with adversity yet.

  114. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    True NoFear49er, I feel equally frustrated.
    Happy for the wins, aggrevated that we can’t get a quick start to jump on top early.
    Alex lacks touch and is still a tick slow pulling the trigger.
    Faster Defenses confuse him.
    Roman is frustrating me lately too.
    As you say, is he stymied by his options with Alex or is he conservative by nature?
    I honestly wonder if Alex is timid or just asked to eat the ball?
    When it comes time to play from behind he seems to speed up his thought process.
    Wish he could operate more in a 2min role, perhaps that would improve his timing?

  115. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I trust Harbaugh to teach the position, Alex has to be confident enough to be aggressive.
    That’s where he and Harbaugh are totally different animals.
    Aggressor is not a quality I would associate with Alex.

  116. robNo Gravatar says:


    Did you make it to the game sunday ? the boss’ AC unit in his house went out and after fixing it he was in no mood to shell out the bucks to go up there ! we wound up watching it here !

    towards the end of the game all i could hear were niners fans chanting ‘defense’ there !
    awesome !

  117. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh has upped Alex’s game, no doubt, NJ49er. Now I’d love to have him on the bench to call on when the #1 went down.
    Hey, what happened to Vernon Davis Sunday?

  118. robNo Gravatar says:


    about alex smith.

    the most frustrating thing for me is that he seems to be taking sacks a little too much . imo the mindset of the coaching staff is don’t put it up , just take the sack. on one play sunday he could easily have thrown it away and had someone open short to go to. we took the sack instead.

    alex needs to stop thinking so much and just play !

  119. robNo Gravatar says:


    i’m surprised at you !
    “what happened to vernon davis” ?

    what happened to eagle eye nofear !

    teams have been going so far as cover davis with their best corners ( EVEN I noticed that) lol !
    which brings me to a bigger concern than alex smith ! our WR’s are dropping too many balls. they can’t seem to get off the line vs. DB’s even when they’re not being jammed ! our guys are running AROUND the DB’s and are slow getting to where they’re supposed to be !
    maybe it’s time for a visit by jerry rice ! rice used to catch 100 balls a day and could help them run better routes/beat jams !

  120. robNo Gravatar says:


    it looks to me like a case of harbaugh’s offense giving smith better options more than having “upped” alex’s game !

    timing as NJ49ER says is a big issue right now imo ! smith still has it clicking with vernon davis and delanie walker , but not so much with his other WR’s and backs !

  121. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Romo has a lot of skills, but he lacks the one ingredient that is a must for an NFL QB: a brain. Cutler’s the same. If they played the game again today, it might be Cutler who throws 5 picks.

  122. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear, I would never presume to drag Bill Walsh in to legitimize my opinion, or in your case, bias. Deberg did just enough to lose; Smith does just enough to win. And Dilfer? Pulleeese. He couldn’t hold Smith’s jock.

  123. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The QB experts here are making me ROTFLMAO!

  124. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith does a great job of looking off the safety. To hear anybody say otherwise exposes them as a member of the hanging posse. If they are just calling it as they see it they don’t see very well.

  125. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If I just read the comments here and did not see the results of the last game I would assume we LOST 34-0.

  126. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NF said this about Alex Smith
    “The guy turned in an impressive season. But I haven’t seen how he does with adversity yet.”
    This has to be on par with Spitoon’s ignorant comments.
    Perhaps NF was taking a siesta
    when the Niners played the Aints
    in last year’s playoff game.
    Apparent you missed all the adversity that was overcome. FYI

  127. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It was said in an earlier post that Alex does well in two minute drill. That is because more is put on his shoulders at that time. Our coaches are very conservative. In two minute drill it becomes more of the QB running the show. There is your sign. If my team can run for 250 yards I,m counting a win. Brees threw for 400 yds this week and lost. Call me not as smart as the late nighters here, but I like wins over passing yards.

  128. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- There are 49er fans here that hate Alex so much they can’t watch the glorious drive. Alex being successful is too rough for their reputations.

  129. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Christian Ponder threw for 111 yards against the Lions.
    How’d the Vikes do?

  130. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Can’t help it. I’m having fun.The rain has passed and the temps are going up to 90 for a day, then dropping to 50 when the front blows by, then back up to 90. I love the high desert.
    Let’s see in December and January how the elite do.

  131. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kaepernick’s TD run against the Jest looks eerily similar to another TD run by a QB in Jan 2012 yet Spittle was mocking Alex Smith of being incapable of doing this. To that I say BS, hater!

  132. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- Exactly! I’m sure the Vikings fans are happy about the win. The fans here are such fantasy mavens and Smith haters they worry more about QB passing yards than wins. Having 3 third down drops to kill drives doesn’t slow down their expertise on judging and need for gaining status in their hanging posse.

  133. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The Bills are another bye week. I’ll wake up when the Niners play the real team, the Giante.

  134. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- Remember when Stinkblood told us how bad we were as an organization because we didn’t give away the farm for Charlie Whitehusrt like Seattle did? Now he is leading the hanging posse with more expertise. I look at his posts as free comedy. Try the veal, he’ll be here for a while.

  135. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    He spent 3 mos. last winter ranting about the HOF bound Matt Flynn. Now Flynn is sitting in Whitehurst’s abandoned bench spot.

  136. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I wanted to tear the team down and build it back from the front office down.
    I don’t think I was wrong. They drafted an O-line and gave them time to work together…
    I don’t think Kendall Hunter will be Frank Gore. Not many backs are.
    Now all they need is a Championship QB.

  137. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Like Chaerlie Whitehurst or Nate Davis?

  138. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    After Russell Wison threw 3 picks the subject of Flynn came up.
    Petey shot it down saying even if he wanted to switch Flynn has a current undiclosed injury that would prevent the change.

  139. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t even know who Charlie Whitehurst is.
    Guess who Donovan McNabb trained last year, under Bill Musgrave’s (the new guru former Niner) tutelage?
    Christian Ponder.
    Nate turned his offer down. JJ Stokes redux. I don’t think the Amarillo Venom has film to watch.

  140. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Well, RTF, at least you’re not using Howie Long and Tony Dungy as your expert QB opinionists.

  141. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I form my own opinions, Skeebs, same as always.

  142. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Vikes @ Niners
    Broncs @ Texans
    That’s my updated prediction.

  143. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- Your opinions worth reading. We disagree often but your opinion is still worth checking in on. An occasional jab is fun also! You are a guy who can take it as well as dish it.

  144. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:


  145. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers – Howie Long and Tony Dungy have forgotten more about football and have more knowledge in their little pinkies than you will ever have regarding football. We all see, Skeebers, that you know very little about football.
    Berger – Why do you lie? You seem like you’re in your late 40’s or early 50’s and you’re a liar? That’s pathetic. The Niner organization under Singletary and Nolan was a poorly run organization. In addition, Charlie is ABAS. You don’t get it. Anyone who gets the 49ers and their fans looking at other qbs and considering other options is a good qb in my opinion. Nate Davis, Charlie Whitehurst, etc. I think you know this, though. I’ll keep explaining it for you just in case.

  146. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Anybody who wants Whitehurst over Smith is not credible. I’ll keep explaining that to you just in case.

  147. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    LMAO! Skeebers wrote above…. “Dilfer? Please. Dilfer couldn’t hold Smith’s jock.” But in the post above he talks about Smith just winning. Hilarious. Dilfer won a Super Bowl, Skeebers, you dumb ass. By your terms, Dilfer is the better qb over Smith because all you care about are wins. If you cared about stats, you’d lose. Skeebers just doesn’t know football… and that’s why he loves Alex Smith. But in a month, Skeebers won’t admit he ever loved his boy Smith so much.

  148. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, Minn would have lost if not for the 2 ST TDs. Ponder led the Vikes to 6 points.

  149. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Berger: ABAS = Anyone But Alex Smith. Charlie Whitehurst is anyone but.

  150. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Nate Davis = ABAS.
    Mark Sanchez = ABAS
    Jay Cutler = ABAS
    Tony Romo = ABAS
    I can do this all day….

  151. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Another inkling as to why you are sub-moronic. Donovan McNabb is avaiable, Stink.
    At least he’s your FL starter! You and the Saints have a lot in common. As in 0-4. . .

  152. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Every time you get exposed as a dumbass, Al, you claim I don’t know football. It’s a dead giveaway.

  153. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “I can do this all day….”
    Don’t count on it.

  154. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers, Do you see something the rest of us don’t? You are the biggest protector of Alex Smith to ever walk the blogs (ya’ll know what I mean). There’s nobody who loves Alex Smith more than you do. Someone on this blog, anyone… please tell me, name one person who loves Alex Smith more than Skeebers. I challenge you all.

  155. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Stinkblood- It’s good to see you back tracking to cover your precious reputation. If you are one thing, it is consistent.

  156. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I see Alex as a good QB. 16-4 says so. Winning his 1st play-off game in a shoot out with Brees says so. Being able to somehow survive Nolan and Singletary says so. And most importantly, Stinkblood saying he sucks says so!

  157. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Well, Berger, at least we have you on record as saying he’s good because in two weeks you’ll be claiming you never liked Alex Smith. You’ll hear crickets on this blog (a lot like Unca’s blog …. yeah, yeah…. mine died…. but guess what? Imma bastard. People don’t frequent bastards…lol). But I digress. You’ll hear crickets on this blog for a month when Kaep takes over for Smith BEFORE this year’s playoffs. Or, more importantly, if Smith does qb in the playoffs, you’ll hear crickets when the 49ers, as by far the best team in the NFL, once again get bounced because their qb can’t get it done. Either way, crickets. Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring. Alex Smith? He ran a qb sweep into the end zone to win a nail biter (not pillow biter, Skeebs, don’t get your hopes up)over the Saints after they turned the ball over 8 times. You turn the ball over 12 times and a good qb steps on your neck and you aren’t even in the game in the 4th quarter. People who know football can tell the differnce. Unca, Skeebers and Berger – they’re still livin’ the old glory days. But modern football? They’ve lost a step. Unca Chuck didn’t even know who Jermicheal Finley was last year.

  158. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Nate Davis’ home schedule this year:

    Sat, March 31st 2012

    Roughnecks / Regular Season

    Amarillo Civic Center

    Sat, April 28th 2012

    Stallions / Regular Season

    Amarillo Civic Center

    Sat, May 26th 2012

    RGV.Magic / Regular Season

    Amarillo Civic Center

    Sat, June 9th 2012

    Rattlesnakes / Regular Season

    Amarillo Civic Center

    Sat, June 16th 2012

    Stallions / Regular Season

    Amarillo Civic Center

    Sat, July 7th 2012

    Hammerheads / Regular Season

    Amarillo Civic Center

  159. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The guy was never taught to read, but he’s got an arm like Namath before his knee injuries.
    Now, work your way up, Nate. Stay out of girls’ pants for now, buddy.

  160. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    RT – Right now Rex Ryan is trying to convince the New York media that Sanchez is starting not because of contract, but because of merit. That’s hard for even Skeebers to swallow, and Skeebers swallows everything. The same thing happened with Alex Smith. He was paid big money, sucked, but had to start. If there was any justice in the world, Alex Smith would be starting for the New Mexican Fire Flies…

  161. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Notice how Albert always talks about the future or the past, and never the present. Reality is over his head. Fantasy is so much easier.

  162. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Spitoon makes dozens of idiotic predictions. He is about as right on them as a broken clock telling time.

  163. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I guess when I was writing yesterday about the transition we are seeing RIGHT NOW from Kaep to Smith, I wasn’t talking about the present. My bad, dumb ass.

  164. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    On a totally different (almost) subject, did you notice that the Vikes have turned their organization around? DUI Team Presidents and such are gone.
    They are a team to be reckoned with if AP’s knee holds up.
    I credit Mike Singletary for the organization turnaround, as he did for the moribund Mike Nolan Niners.

  165. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Wow… a broken clock joke…. awesome. Steppin’ up your game, Unca. Meds must not have kicked in yet.
    It’s me vs Skeebers, Unca, Bullit and Berger.. and I’m winning because Alex Smith is indefensible. Damn, dude… even Trent Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring.

  166. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “..we are seeing RIGHT NOW from Kaep to Smith”
    Perfect example of a fantasy, Al. A statement so ridiculous even Howie Long wouldn’t make it.

  167. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I can see you are ranting yourself into a corner again, Al. Close to another predictable implosion. Take a deep breath.

  168. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers… so when the starting qb has a horrible game in Minnesota, then the next week the backup in his second year comes in to replace the starter in the red zone and on 3rd down, you dismiss that as coincidence? I say you’re witnessing the transition RIGHT NOW. I think it will continue. Kaep’s too good.
    Who’s flustered? Whenever you get your ass handed to you in a debate you always claim the other person is flustered. How’s that working out for you? Your boy, Alex, better enjoy his final games as a starter in the NFL. The end is near…. finally.

  169. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    That’s the Albuquerque Isotopes, Al, the Dodgers Triple-A team.
    Not as much as I hate the Cowboys, but I did see Willie Mays flailing against Don Drysdale.
    The Isotopes suck. The Dodgers suck.

  170. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    JMO, Al, but Nate Davis is a better QB than Mark Sanchez.
    But Crabby’s right on this. Alex is our QB and we’ll ride with him (until we don’t).

  171. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    See the video from 7:39am this morning and tell me who ran the ball in on the same play Kaepernick scored on.
    Then go to the free clinic and get that 20 year old STD taken care of.

  172. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NIners came back from their 10 day road trip to a brand new weight room. J Goodwin posted a picture

  173. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    4 plays does not a transition make. Patience, Stinkfist. I think cappy gets some plays vs the Giants. Same as last Sunday. 4 or 5 tops. The tranisition, IF it happens, will be next year at the earliest. Barring injury.
    Christ, yer starting Carson Palmer? Bwahahahahahaha!!! How’s that horse collar fitting you?

  174. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Spitoon also keeps repeating this
    asinine statement. Stop Gore , you stop the Niners. The Jest tried and the result 34-0 mental midget, 34-0.

  175. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I think this is a great discussion and thanks bullet for the final drive video. That one brings a ton of joy to me. Everyone sees things a little differently. I admit to judging Alex to the standards of prior 49er QBs, Alex is better than some but not even close to others. It probably isn’t fair but that’s the way it is. I want a SB winning QB. Heck, I was frustrated with Young for the longest time and he was a hell of a QB. I guess what I’m saying is I want some progress that will eventually lead to pretty much perfection. Is that too much to ask?

  176. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit/Unca – usually I don’t converse with retards…. just Skeebers and Berger…actually, what am I saying? But Sando had an interesting stat on the Jets’ game. The 49ers ran for 245 yards with 9 different players. Smith passed for a paltry 140? That’s a run oriented team. Why? Because Smith can’t throw… and that’s why Kaep will become a much bigger part of this offense until he eventually takes over. When you run for 245 yards with 9 players it says two things: Roman and Harbaugh know their team, and they’re creative. The Jets, even if they tried, couldn’t stop the run on Sunday. You want to beat the 49ers? You stop the run.

  177. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Spittle is giving Bill Walsh a run for his money fpr the title of “Genius”.
    You either stop the run or the pass. You chose run. Spitoon has a 50% chance of being right.
    The broken clock in action.

  178. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Like I said earlier, too many folks here say “Gee I wish we had Brady/Brees/Rodgers/Davis/Mira/Van Brocklin/blah blah blah blah blah.
    EVERY team in the league would KILL to have our run game. To not use it would be asinine. As we saw in Minnesota. Detroit and GB couldn’t stop the run. Minn didn’t have to. In the Minn game, 15 of the first 18 plays were passes. The Niner mistake in the Minn game was to NOT run the ball. They went against their own philosophy. And it cost them.
    If the Niners play the Vikes again, it’ll be a MUCH different strategy.

  179. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    “every team in the league would kill to have our run game,”…. until the playoffs.

  180. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Our futurist checks in again, taking a present day observation and predicting its demise in six months.

  181. robNo Gravatar says:


    who do you love

    alex smith or tony homo !

  182. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Balance O and a wicked D gameplan and healthy guys is the recipe for the playoffs. A one dimensional offense run or pass is less likely to win it all.

  183. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    12th – exactly. Must have a passing attack come the playoffs, and despite Berger’s recent attempts at creating an Alexcuse, our skill position players, and more specifically, our wide receivers, are some of the best in the game and certainly good enough to win a Super Bowl with.

  184. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Enough of this… It’s trivia time… without looking it up on the internet… what was Joe Theisman’s first position with the Washington Redskins? Hint – It wasn’t qb.

  185. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    During the season where a loss is not the end of the world that’s all well and good not having many interceptions, it’s a nice stat to have similar to how many low risk throws in a row are made without a turnover. But playoffs is 1 and done, like last year, so speaking for myself I want the ability to throw down field if that’s what the game is in need of to win. Niners came up short last time, I don’t want a repeat of that because down field throws aren’t in the toolbox so practice away in in-season games I say.

  186. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    bullit Says:
    October 2nd, 2012 at 6:52 am
    NF said this about Alex Smith
    “The guy turned in an impressive season. But I haven’t seen how he does with adversity yet.”
    This has to be on par with Spitoon’s ignorant comments.
    Actually I wrote this:

    I don’t know if Harbaugh always knows what to do. The guy turned in an impressive season. But I haven’t seen how he does with adversity yet.

    So are you a liar or just plain stupid?
    Davis was mostly used in six man protections. He was a receiver on our possession just before the half. That’s when he made his two catches. The rest of the game he didn’t even get a look as far as I could tell, whether he was covered or not.

  187. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    No idea, DB?

  188. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th – Exactly! Must have a passing attack come the playoffs, and despite Stinkblood’s recent attempts at creating a Stink bomb, our skill position players, and more specifically, our running backs, are some of the best in the game and certainly good enough to win a Super Bowl with. It is good to know we have the QB to go all the way too! Now if we could just cut down our drops by our WRs we’d not kill so many drives.

  189. robNo Gravatar says:


    vernon played a good game and came through for us when he was given the chance this weekend ! i hope we throw at him more than we have lately !umm if we threw deep a little more it would make vernon’s life a lot easier imo !

    i have noticed teams using some of their best DB’s to cover vernon this year ! imo it’s up to our WR’s to take advantage !

  190. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting. I remembered Theismann did something else his first year, but I had to look this one up.

    Punt returner. Not too shabby, either, 10 and a half yards a pop.

  191. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    You’d best do both running and passing in the playoffs. You don’t want to be Ground Chuck. But you also don’t want to be Dan Marino or Dan Fouts. I *know* this team can run – it’s built to do that, including the O-linemen. Passing we do, but not consistently. As it’s the only phase of the game of the five where we have a real question, it’s going to be the focus of our concerns and efforts to improve.

  192. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    DeLuca, I agree. I think we figured the Jets would be looking to shut down Davis, especially after Ryan said he was the best TE in football earlier in the week, and so Walker had his chances this week. I saw Davis get bracketed and covered deep a couple times but nothing that would have shut him down had he been a bigger part of the game plan. It might have been different with Revis. Of course, as it turned out the Jets were finding new ways to give us the ball on their every possession. It was another fun game to watch.

  193. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You can apply the same answer to Harbaugh I think he responded with not panicking and going for the win rather than settling for a tie.
    So what the hell are you whining about? The coach as well as the team faced a mountain of adversity
    against the Aints and were victorious.

  194. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    BS. You intentionally misquoted what I wrote, so answer the question you sniveling weasel, are you a liar or just plain stupid?
    Nevermind, you’re a worthless piece of sh!t in any case and in any of the names you hide behind.

  195. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Apparently you were not aware that Vernon Davis appeared on
    injury report with back spasms during the latter part of the week.
    It would be nice if you could show a hint of gratitude when enlightened.

  196. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    When you’re wrong you resort to the cheap shot namecalling.
    I answered your question about Harbaugh and you have no rebuttal so you go with the outrage card.
    Look who;s the weasel. I honestly thought you were talking about Alex Smith and answered in kind. But like I said the same applies to the coaching.

  197. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Still bitter about Nolan getting fired? If you don’t get over that the Niners will never make you happy. Too bad for you.

  198. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    We were getting around the edge vs the Jets. Nothing is more dominating in football than a succesful sweep. It doesn’t need to be the Green Bay Sweep or the old USC Student Body sweep. It just needs to get yards around the ege and make the DTs do some running. DTs hate to do a lot of running. It wears them out quickly. They are conditioned for physicality short bursts, not running.

  199. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of Tim Tebow, what position did Billy Kilmer start out with for the Niners (I know Chuck and Grumpy know the answer; I posted it before)?
    That was BEFORE he drove his car into the bay.
    I think he did alright.

  200. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    They are showing highlights on ESPN of Dez Bryant last night.
    Geez, and blog peeps complain about Crabs.
    Give me a break.

  201. robNo Gravatar says:

    anybody else here think we should have traded up for micheal floyd ?

  202. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shit Rufus, you beat me to it. I was gonna say Stinkle was thinking of Billy Kilmer.
    He was the halfback who famously fumbled the ball that Jim Marshall returned the wrong way for a safety.

  203. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    With Manningham now running the WR reverse, and KW returning punts, I wonder when Ginn is traded . . .

  204. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    The greatest part of that play, Chuck, was 49er Bruce Bosley running up to Marshall in the end zone to ‘congratulate’ him and give him a pat on the back as Marshall’s shoulders just sag.

  205. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Damn, I miss Lon Simmons.

  206. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Yes, Grump. He was a punt returner. You win the sixty four million rouble question of the day.
    Berger – I think you might be confusing drops with overthrows.

  207. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Just for kicks. You get your kicks on Route 66!

  208. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I was in a 50 yard line seat for the 1988 Skins game that turned the season around, en route to Super Bowl Championship #3.
    John Taylor had two long returns for TDs.
    Best seats I ever had.

  209. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I was on Santa Monica Pier on Saturday, that’s where Route 66 ends.

  210. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er from the nose bleed seats we were in on Sunday, Vernon hardly got a look most of the afternoon.
    Seems to me Roman was trying his best to get Alex and Manningham in sync and pick on Wilson.
    Far be it from me to know from my vantage point if Alex even considered him too often.
    As I see it, Alex locks onto his primary too often and it could simply be that he was just trying to work with Mario and Delaney?
    I have the game on the DVR, I’ll rewatch it before Sunday and try to gain some additional perspective.
    Berger, I’m not a hater but, Alex still appears to be stiff at times in his delivery.
    Not sure he recognizes coverages quickly enough at times either.
    He’s improved under Harbaugh without doubt but, he isn’t throwing with great accuracy, or touch, when it comes to sideline routes and deep middle throws.
    Season is young, timing should improve as things progress.

  211. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Niner defense stuffed Tebow’s running and allowed him one jump pass completion in which the TE then fumbled away when hit.
    Goldson did make a great play on the deep ball which he is totally capable of. Goldson needs consistency to be the FS he is capable of. Here is that play compliments of Fooch at SBnation

  212. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Nobody looks stiffer than Peyton Manning throwing a ball. Peyton also has as good a throwing motion the NFL has ever seen.

  213. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Giants eliminate the Dodgers from the playoffs at Dodger Stadium in front of all of those idiot Dodger fans! What a wonderful night!

  214. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    To paraphrase Joe Montana, the Dodgers can sit at home with the rest of America and watch the Giants in the playoffs on TV.

    To say LA is a shithole is unfair, and an insult to shitholes everywhere.

  215. winderNo Gravatar says:

    tru dat

  216. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Gotta pass along another story from the Meadowlands.
    We hung out at the visitors gate after the game to catch the players at the buses.
    Blocked by security fences and NJ State Police of course.
    Out came a HOT blonde hanging on the arm of Drew Rosenhaus while he had NaVorro Bowman around the neck with the other arm, literally jawing in his ear.
    The crowd of us started heckling him and telling Bowman to ditch the clown and re-up in SF without him.
    Funny thing was, Baalke was milling around the same area with all the players.
    Drew has to be working on Bowmans’ extension price I’m sure.
    Problem is, he’s a classless weasel.

  217. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Curious. With Santonio going down on Sunday, would we entertain a Trade at the WR position to open a slot for AJ?

  218. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17