Open Season

Monday, July 25, 2011, the dirt bags who brought us an empty offseason finally announced a new CBA agreement, thus turning back on the lights of the NFL. We are pleased.

The 49ers wasted no time before immediately gorging on the UDFA market, signing all kinds of camp fodder guys you never heard of and, after training camp, never will hear of again. That will probably not be the case for at least two of them, though — Notre Dame NT Ian Williams and Stanford center Chase Beeler. For full list of UDFAs, click on the Matt Barrows blogroll link to the right.

Williams was probably the top UDFA talent out there and he also fills a big need for the 49ers, who are letting incumbent NT Abrayo Franklin go get his wad of dough somewhere else. Nobody seems to know why this talented wide body went undrafted, but signing him is a coup for the Niners. Beeler played for Jim Harbaugh last year at Stanford and practiced with the team during Camp Alex, helping out with his knowledge of Harbaugh’s offense. That knowledge will definitely get him some reps in this squeezed training camp, so we’ll see if he makes the most of his opportunity.

The real action won’t come till Friday, however. Although the Niners are now free to discuss trades with other teams and free to negotiate agreements with UFAs, these deals cannot be ratified until Friday. The current players can start reporting into 4949 Centennial Blvd. today and training camp will officially begin on Thursday.

The above information is for those readers who foolishly rely on this site for hard news. We normally discuss news after it has melted a bit, or apply a torch to accomplish the melting ourselves. But this is a special time in the football universe, so we bow to the necessitities.

One peculiarity of the current timeline of events involves the free agents we sign and/or the players we might trade for. As noted, these deals can be announced Friday. However, these players cannot begin practicing with the team until next Thursday, August 4th, the beginning of the new league year. That’s one full week of training camp these guys will miss. Draftees can sign anytime now and begin camp on time.

Currently, the 49ers have only one QB under contract, David Carr, and presumably will have second round draft pick Colin Kaepernick signed and ready by Thursday. Neither of these two is going to start for the team this year. That means whoever is the starting QB for the Niners this year will miss the first week of camp. We know one candidate will be Alex Smith. We know there will be another candidate also, but this fellow is currently a mystery. Rumors suggest it will be Matt Hasselbeck, but we won’t know for sure until Friday.

It’s possible we will hear about the release of Carr before Friday. There’s no sense bringing him to camp if there are no plans to keep him. This would leave the first week of camp entirely to Kaepernick, with a UDFA guy also flinging a few passes to help out. It would be a good week for Harbaugh to focus on installation of the running game.

Okay, guys. That’s enough rules and regulations. Let’s get the pads on and get this show rolling!

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  1. robNo Gravatar says:

    mornin cali !
    still lovin the ian williams signing ! aldon smith , copernicus the little RB and williams and our off-season is off to a good start !

  2. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs you’re up early. Here’s a few more UDFA names:
    TE Konrad Reuland, Stanford
    6-5, 258
    CBS Sports ranked him as the 30th best tight end in the draft. Reuland, who transferred from Notre Dame in 2008, was one of several tight ends who saw action in Jim Harbaugh’s offense last year. He caught 21 passes for 209 yards and a touchdown last season.

    DT-NT Sealver Siliga, Utah (CSN Bay Area)
    6-2, 305
    CBS Sports ranks him as the 22nd best interior defensive lineman. Honorable mention all-MWC … played and started in 12 games (missed the SDSU game with a shin injury) … second among the Ute linemen with 41 tackles … 4.0 TFL and 1.5 sacks … seven tackles against BYU included 2.5 for a loss … four tackles with a sack and a pass breakup against Notre Dame … recovered a fumble against TCU (two tackles) … five tackles against UNLV, Air Force and Boise State.

    Derek Hall, Stanford
    6-5, 303. Named honorable-mentional All-Pac-10 while starting all 13 games at right tackle.
    OLB Monte Simmons (6-1, 234) Kent State — He has a wing span of nearly seven feet, which makes his effort of bench-pressing 225 pounds 22 times all the more impressive. Simmons had 21.5 sacks and 38.5 tackles for losses in his career.

    OLB Kenny Rowe (6-2, 244) Oregon — Second-team All-Pac-10 selection had six sacks last season and 22.5 in his career to rank sixth in school history.
    In a mantic vein I predict the 9ers will sign some FAs and cut or trade some players as well. Sorry my crystal ball is a little foggy this evening.

  3. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Nate Davis to sign with the Colts. He’ll have plenty of time to digest the playbook there.

  4. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Nate Davis to the Colts? Now he can hold the clipboard for Curtis Paul Painter (the QB I wanted to draft) on the sideline. He’ll never see the light of day. Both figuratively and literally.
    Bring me Matt Hasselbeck!

  5. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry, guys, no Herzlich. He’s going to the Giants.

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Colts are going with local flavor in their QBs with Painter from Purdue and Davis from Ball St

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Froman is going tot he Falcons
    Masoli is just a camp arm.
    He’s 5’10” and his name isn’t Flutie or Brees

  8. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I hope no one leaves their laptop lying around the locker room. Masoli will have thing swiped and pawned before they hit the morning practice.

  9. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Tully Banta-Cain to be released by Pats. Shall we grab him, Rob?

  10. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Pass on yogurt-boy . . .

  11. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bring me David “Green” Akers!

  12. bigtimNo Gravatar says:

    finally a football season to look forward to did any one really think the greedy ones would pass on the Billions I really don’t see that as a reality.
    I am neck deep in baseball now but just the thought of a pre season game gets me fired up,the real question will be, what sort of mentality will Harbaugh bring to the team and how much of his offense can he install in this shortened camp schedule.

  13. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Even if he can only install a tenth of it, it will be a quantum leap over the Singletary/Raye SCO.

  14. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Tavaris Jackson replaces Hasselbeck as Seattle QB.

  15. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    In theory and on paper, yes. Leaps and bounds better than the SCO. But when you have the same crappy, turnover-prone, get passes-batted, roll right and throw OB quarterback running the show it doesn’t mean a hill of beans.
    And to think people, many here, believe that Jim Harbaugh can come in and in five weeks turn this frog of a QB into a beautiful prince. FIVE weeks until Game 1 vs Seattle. Unless Harbaugh’s middle name is Jesus Christ they’ll still be a toad under center. Ribbit. Ribbit.

  16. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You seem to forget Smith killed Seattle at the Stick last year. But don’t let me interrupt your ravings.

  17. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    You won’t interrupt him Skeebs, no one has been able to so far. I wonder if D will be disappointed if AS does well?

  18. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    The crux of the biscuit lies somewhere in the middle. Alex is not as horrible as most think, but he isn’t as good as some imagine he’ll be with a new coaching staff/system.
    The stupid thing is, all they needed out of him in the recent past was somewhere around an 85-86 QBR.
    Who knows? If Smith leads the Niners to a one-and-done playoff run, I’ll be surprised. Happy? Sure. But mainly surprised. Whatever the deal, his shelf-life is one year, tops.
    Who knows? Maybe Bellichick thinks he can get something from him and they pluck him from our grasp.

  19. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, Del- Seattle at the Stick in 2010. Alex Smith, 17-27, 3 TDs, 0 ints, 255yds. 49ers win 40-21. Does this mean Sing’s middle name is Jesus Christ?

  20. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, your admiration and support for A*** S**** disappoints me. I thought you knew your football. But anyone who thinks that A*** S**** is any kind of QB is one dumb sumbitch. Sorry, buddy.

  21. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Wait a minute I thought Alex Smith was beyond bad. How come he had a game like that? Maybe as Chuck says “the crux of the biscuit is somewhere in the middle” and we will be surprised a bit this year. For sure JH will not settle for mediocrity so sumpthin’s gonna change.

  22. robNo Gravatar says:

    tbc is pretty much done as far as i know skeebs

  23. robNo Gravatar says:

    not so fast ! did our coaching under nolan suck or what
    “Growing up and living in the Boston area I have always been a die-hard New England Patriots fan. That’s why when I heard that Tully Banta-Cain(notes) is to be released, just days after the NFL lockout’s closing, I had a cause for concern. As a fan I believe Banta-Cain’s release is a counterproductive move in relation to the Patriots pass-rush situation.

    Why does Tully Banta-Cain’s release cause you, a Patriots fan, concern?

    Banta-Cain has been one of the Patriots best pass-rushers for the past couple of seasons. I find this fact to be an issue because not only were the Patriots already in dire need of another pass-rusher but now one of our better veteran pass-rushers has been let go.

    Last season Banta-Cain recorded half of the Patriots outside linebackers’ sacks and totaled for 14.5 sacks in the past two seasons combined. With my Patriots tied 14th among NFL teams for total sacks last season it’s no doubt that we need to sign another pass-rusher, maybe two.

  24. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, I have to laugh a little because most of these udfa’s are nothing but camp fodder. They weren’t drafted for a reason. Hey, I depend on this site for my football knowledge and now your telling me not to? Bummer.

  25. BergerNo Gravatar says:


  26. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Free agent signings are beginning to happen now. Gonna be a lot of news coming down the pike.

  27. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    S Quintin Mikell to the Rams
    QB Tavaris Jackson to Seattle
    Santana Moss to Washington
    Okay, Bullit. You can take over now.

  28. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like McNabb will be traded to Vikings.

  29. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Would not be surprised to hear Josh Johnson traded from Bucs to Niners any minute.

  30. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Matt Leinart to be reunited with Pete Carroll up in Seattle. Mikell to the Rams? That’s a good p/u. They needed to fill the void of the loss of Atogwe. Is he still going to marry Sing’s daughter? Good luck with that shit. We best p/u a CB or S or preferably both ourselves. If we cut Clements (I hope) and don’t sign anyone of significance and start the yr with Spencer and T. Brown as our corners…well, I think Rob will have a thing or two to say to Jed. And the words won’t be too kind.

  31. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Tavaris Jackson to Seattle? Add him to J.P. Losman and Whitehurst and what do you get? That’s one banana split that tastes like shit.

  32. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Matt Leinhart to Seattle.

  33. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, I’d love to get JJ from the Buccos. Seattle and AZ have issues behind center as well. The Rams are the only ones set at QB. That being said, the division is still wide open.
    Get JJ and hit the ground running, uh passing. You know what I mean.

  34. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Kind of like Martz bringing in JTO because he knew his offense. Johnson is a lot better than JTO, though.

  35. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, it’s official. Alex Smith signs a one-year deal worth around $5 mill. Hey, I’m thrilled it’s a one year deal . . .

    This doesn’t preclude going after JJ, but I’m less certain it’ll happen now.

  36. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hot Tub Matt with his old partner in crime, Pete Carroll? How cozy. They are destined for failure.

    That 1st game of the season should be fun . . .

  37. robNo Gravatar says:

    i don’t think smith was worth 5 mil ! i like 2.5
    no wisecracks dennis !

  38. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, it’s a one-year deal. Be very thankful for that. Forget the money.

  39. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Sacbee and Barrow reporting that 4 teams are after TKO and Niners are running 5th.
    Doesn’t look Spikes will be back.
    No hometown discount.

  40. robNo Gravatar says:

    bullit i’m not buying it !

  41. robNo Gravatar says:

    oops it looks grim ! we better up our offer quick ! letting spikes go would be a bad sign !

  42. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Spike will not be back, bullit. TKO is heading to the Chargers. Enjoy the SD Zoo and send me a postcard you old fart.

  43. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I’m glad he’s going. Like I posted the other day, Walsh would have sent him packing last year. Let’s see what Bowman can do. The kid has shown flashes. sure he’s made mistakes and surely will make many more, but I like the youth movement. Next move? Dump Clements.

  44. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Of course Smith is worth 5 million… pesos. Or lira.

    maybe even dollars after next week, the way we’re going.

    Wonder how much my next liver will cost by then? If I keep having to watch Alex Smith…

  45. winderNo Gravatar says:

    So I gather that our big signing day netted Smith, and……Woopeee. Blow it up and start over. Spikes was a good Niner but he was slowing down. I know he led the D in tackles last year but that’s just a statement on the shape of our D.

  46. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    5 million pesos is worth $125,000 which we could live on for over 10 years here. Or maybe 10 months if the US buck keeps crapping out…jeez

  47. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    bigtim, did you see the interview JH had yesterday? If his attitude transfers to the players it’s gonna be great:
    “First order or business is start seeing our players, getting knee to knee and eyeball to eyeball with them. Honestly that’s the thing I’m most excited about.”
    “It feels more like football talking to those guys, even on the phone. I can’t tell you how good it’s going to be having those guys in the building, face to face, knee to knee, smelling their breath, just getting to know them, let them get to know me. That’s what I’m looking most forward to.”
    “It will really come down to that, the teaching, the quality reps on the field and who can do that the best will eventually get a leg up. I’m not concerned with getting around the rules because those rules are important to our players and our team and our organization. We’ll honor those.”
    “Everybody’s got to do just a great job of teaching and understanding where guys are. Because guys are going to come in tip-top shape, there’s going to be some guys that come in close to tip-tip shape and you just don’t know. There’s the unknown with every single guy on your team, with every rookie free agent, drafted guy, that you sign, you just don’t know.
    So the idea of the unknown, now you know why I’m nervous. You know why I’ve got some angst on a lot of different fronts.
    Like I said, just keeps you on your toes. Heightened awareness of where everybody is, physically, emotionally, mentally, all those different areas.
    there’s been a real trust that’s built-up in this long period where we’ve had more extra time to be together and get to know each other and see how each other operates.
    Hopefully, that’s going to be beneficial. I’m sitting on a spring excited to watch them coach. Watch myself coach. And coach.
    In talking to some of the players, they’re echoing that. They’re feeling the exact same way. So… that’s all good.
    I think the thing that interested me the most, I don’t know if this is right or wrong or if I should have been gleaning more or less than I was but I was just happy for these players, this generation of guys to be able to organize their own workouts, their own games, their own workout sessions, because it’s a generation that’s been in a lot of ways over-supervised, over-officiated, and over-scrutinized. It’s not the generation where the leather on the baseball starts getting soft and starts coming apart, and you figure out to get some gray electrical tape and wrap it around real tight so you can keep playing. (These days) somebody’s parent’s coming in with a new ball. So I was excited for those guys in that regard, and I feel like it will bode well for us”


  48. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Sounds like Dirty Al and his Rayduhs are at least driving up the $$$ on Goldson if not making a serious bid themselves. Niners seem pretty intent on keeping ’em. Honest question, is he that good? What has Goldson done that would warrant a huge payday? He had that nice little stretch of about 3-4 games where he was playing like a man possessed. Tasmanian Devil if you will. But other than that, I certainly haven’t been overwhelmed with his performance. I dunno. Baalke and Co. seem intent of throwing money and retaining Goldson and McDonald. I think it’s a BIG mistake. They’re going to lose AF and Manny. If they retain Clements, I’m going to bang my head against the wall — more than usual. Boy, I think we’re in for a rude awaking this year with our defense. Hide the women and children. This isn’t going to be pretty.

  49. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, I’ve been comment #49 today both here and over on Chuck’s blog. Yes, I will take a cookie. Oatmeal raisin please. Hey, isn’t our new DE-turned-FB Miller going to don #49? That’s one of the few guys I’m excited about this year. I think the guy’s going turn out A-OK and surprise the hell outta some people with his athleticism and ability to p/u a new position quickly and swimmingly. But mark my word. If Moran Norris starts at FB Opening Day, I’ll be asking for Harbaugh to be fired.

  50. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Let the Raiduhs have Goldosn and go after Eric Weddle hard. That would be an improvement.

    No word yet on Clements renegotiating his contract.

  51. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Titans might release Chris Hope
    as a salary cap move.
    Hope is 31 now but still a heck of a safety and a team leader.
    Goldson is not happy with what the Niners are offering.
    If that’s the case C-YA!

  52. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Matt Hasselbeck signs with the Titans.

  53. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    ESPN is reporting that the Niners are a darkhorse for both CBs
    Nnambdi and Joseph.
    Ike Taylor has quietly been re-signed by the Steelers.
    The rules are you can negotiate with a players agent but can’t meet with or talk to the FA player
    face to face until Friday.
    I’d still take Weddle and Joseph
    and I’d know we would have greatly approved the secondary and our pass defense

  54. robNo Gravatar says:

    bad news on spikes i still think you don’t let go a productive vet like that ! not with his only replacement a kid who showed ‘flashes’ DELMARDENNIS .
    i want tackle leaders not flashes !
    I like goldson …the joseph thing would be HUGE !

  55. robNo Gravatar says:

    from the insider
    “the 49ers are not expected to re-sign Aubrayo Franklin”
    good , now we should sign cofield , mebane or jenkins !

  56. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    rob- Cofield is going to the Skins.

  57. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Mebane at NT and Jenkins at LDE and the DL is formidable again. That would help the DBs look better. If only we had better DBs too!

  58. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. Not good. Baas signs with Giants.

  59. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Tony Wragge just went from expendable to desirable.

  60. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    None of these FAs can sign until 6PM ET on Friday. It will be interesting to see if any players reported to have agreed to terms changes their mind for a different team between now and then. The players are not obligated to a team until they actually sign. I say this because Baas hasn’t signed, he has just agreed to terms. I think most will honor their agreements, but I believe a few will jump to a different team.

  61. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    As a stopgap you can sign the Center the Giants cut Sean O’Hara
    He’s 34 but could be serviceable
    until Heitmann comes back or one of the youngsters get up to speed.
    Both Baas and Spikes opted for the big paydays as I think Goldson is angling for also.
    If Clements won’t restructure you release him and don’t sign Golson either. Use that money to sign
    Weddle and Joseph and you’re way ahead.
    Or wait for Titans to release Chris Hope.
    Lots possiblities here and it’s just the first quarter.

  62. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You’re not showing the proper knee-jerk hysteria, Bullit. Shape up.
    Michael Lombardi says the 49ers are in a dogfight with the Jets for Asomuga. That would be a stunner.

  63. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Baas signing with the Giants was a stunner. Who’s gonna be the center now? I foresee a lot of fumbles coming from the quarterback-center exchange. Another built-in excuse. Let’s blame the new center!
    This team is going to stink to high heaven, and I’m going to enjoy every painful moment. Let the beatings begin.

  64. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Seriously, I don’t know how the hell any of you with good conscience can support this shitty product. Look at you guys, hoping and waiting for other teams to release players, at the last minute no less, then sign those guys and expect them to make any difference. Just what are they putting in your Kool-Aid?

  65. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Right on cue, the blog hysteric checks in. Are you taking notes, Bullit?

  66. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Then sign #11 to another deal, and then everyone else starts to leave. Coincidence? You be the judge.

  67. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Turn the clock back a year ago and David Baas was Tony Wragge or Adam Snyder. Nobody would’ve cared if he got cut because he hadn’t done anything special in his 5 years here
    Maybe Snyder will be this year’s Baas or you start Chase Beeler and he show why he was an All America at Center

    Thanks for the guidance Jedi Master Skeebs. Need to leran more Jedi mind treicks.

  68. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, “until Heitmann comes back?” Were you born a dummy or did you have to work at it all your life? Heitmann is not coming back. Maybe if he earns a medical degree he can come back and discuss in detail “Neck Injuries: They’re a Doozy.” Unbelievable.

  69. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Now Bullit wants to start Chase Beeler at center. No need to answer my question, you were definitely born that way. This shit is preposterous.

  70. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis why the hell do you act like chicken little?
    You act like David Baas was an All Pro.
    Training Camp starts tomorrow but you have your thong in a twist already.
    Have a coacktail and relax before you keel over.

  71. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis. I want to start Cahse Beeler? He’ll get some time and show what he has.
    I don’t have any say in what the Niners do like you do.

  72. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Niners have signed Wragge to one year deal. Might be our starting center this year.

  73. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Might? You can book it. Wragge is a jack-of-all-trades type and master of none. Not too good. Iupati and Davis will be improving while the C and RG position will be slipping. And Joe Staley is overrated as a LT IMHO.
    Bullit, it’s not that I think Baas is an All-Pro, not even close. However, the Niners made it perfectly clear that they wanted to re-sign him. He rebuffed their offer. That should tell ya all you need to know.

  74. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    And wasn’t Baas a regular attendee of “Camp A***?” Isn’t Olin Kreutz from the Bears available? He’s a little long-in-the-tooth, but he wouldn’t be a bad stop-gap center for one year. But now that they signed Wragge… Baalke and Jed weren’t lying when they said their main FA objective was to re-sign their own crappy players rather than get someone from another organization. Be careful what you wish for…

  75. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Wragge has a total of TWO career starts at center. Oh boy. Remember, it’s not the quarterback’s fault!

  76. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Report is Frank Gore will holdout when camp begins. Are you guys beginning to see a pattern here? Have some more Kool-Aid, drinks are on me.
    Go Tom Brady!

  77. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chargers just made Weddle the highest paid safety in the NFL
    Over $8mil a year for 5 years
    There is always Hope as in Chris Hope if he’s released

  78. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jets have structured Santonio Holmes’ contract so only $2.5 mil
    count against cap this year.
    That’s how they can be in the running for Nnambdi. It’s now or never for this year but in the following years they will be in Salary Cap Hell if the cap doesn’t rise dramatically

  79. robNo Gravatar says:

    don’t count heitman out !

  80. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Do any of you honestly believe Nnamdi will choose SF over NY? Look at what’s transpired already; TKO >>> SD. Baas >>> NY. They’re leaving for teams that have won and that will compete again this year. NA goes to NY and they’re elevated to IND and NE status for SB favs. Nnamdi comes here? Unless he can play quarterback he isn’t making a world of difference.

  81. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Rob, buddy, repeat after me:
    Heitmann is out.
    Franklin isn’t coming back.
    Lawson isn’t coming back.
    TKO told the Niners to shove it.
    Baas told the Niners to shove it.
    Frank doesn’t want to play here any more.
    Gradkowski would rather play for the Bungles than remain here.
    But we got A***.
    When the next flight to Jonestown?

  82. robNo Gravatar says:

    -The 49ers are attempting to make an offer to Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha

  83. robNo Gravatar says:

    don’t worry dennis ! we signed alex smith !

  84. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    First piece of good news: Niners will release Nate Clements. Now go sign Jonathan Joseph. But why in the world would he want to come here? He won’t. Say hello to Spencer and T. Brown as your starting corners. We might have a chance for Andrew Luck yet…

  85. robNo Gravatar says:

    the asomugha offer tells me we’re actually trying this time ! go jed !
    clements release is them trying to go after namdi a.
    imo we would be best going after mebane and joseph !

  86. robNo Gravatar says:

    fielded calls from a dozen teams for Utah defensive tackle Sealver Siliga before he signed with San Francisco

    siliga looks like a future reserve in a 4-man front. Has good size and can contribute against the run but can be neutralized with a double-team and doesn’t offer much as a pass rusher. Effective run stopper when he gets good hand and hat placement and uses his low center of gravity to get under blockers. . Overall effort is very good but just does not have the range or speed to make plays outside the box or close on the quarterback.

  87. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Gradkowski is going to the Bengals
    on a 2 year deal so if they bring a veteran QB in it might be Trent Edwards

  88. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Carolina pays $12 mil for 4 years
    for K Olindo Mare including $4 mil signing bonus

    That seems a lot for a kicker

  89. winderNo Gravatar says:


  90. winderNo Gravatar says:

    that was meant for rob.

  91. robNo Gravatar says:

    WINDER , i don’t want any fodder !
    if you mean siliga i think he’ll at least make the practice squad !

  92. robNo Gravatar says:

    no biggy gradkowski is no upgrade over what we have !

  93. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I just hope tthe Niners don’t sign Vice Young.

  94. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Vince that is . . .
    This teams still needs one more QB. With Rusty Carr going, and Masoli listed as an RB (?), that leaves the team with Alex and Kappy.
    Who the next QB?

  95. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I would love to see a trade for JJ . . .

  96. robNo Gravatar says:

    Matt Maiocco of CSN Bay Area had this to say on his Twitter (@MaioccoCSN):

    Just received word from source that 49ers have informed Nate Clements they are releasing him.

    That move to release Clements would clear $15M million in 49ers’ cap space


  97. robNo Gravatar says:

    DENNIS now repeat after me
    The 49ers continue to clear room for a possible run at Nnamdi Asomugha.

    Matt Maicco of reports that San Francisco has told cornerback Nate Clements that they will release him. It was long believed Clements needed to take a pay cut to return, and they didn’t work something out.

    It’s the sensible move. It clears major salary cap space for a player that struggled to be a league average starter. If the 49ers want to upgrade at cornerback, they could also make a move for Bengals cornerback Johnathan Joseph.

    UPDATE: We were overdue for a premature report. Multiple reports now indicate that Clements isn’t cut. Yet. A restructured contract could be a possibility.

    where did you say your koolaid was again ?

  98. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Even though we really haven’t done squat in FA yet, it’s still a lot of fun. I just read where maybe Clements is not released, they’re not sure.

  99. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Who’s running things anyway?

  100. robNo Gravatar says:

    WINDER im the new 9ers GM !

  101. robNo Gravatar says:

    IMO we should re-structure clements and sign mebane and joseph !

  102. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners just re-signed McDonald
    5 years $20 mil with $7 mil guaranteed per ESPN

  103. robNo Gravatar says:

    ooh i like mcdonald but i hope we still go hard after mebane !

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Gore is getting bad advice to holdout after his most recent injury. Is there more here than meets the eye? His agent Rosenhaus says he’s 100%. Frank needs to pass the team physical.

    Just in case I would consider signing Michael Bush as insurance.

    Gore never plays in Preseason (maybe 5 carries?) games anyway.

  105. robNo Gravatar says:

    CHUCK i hate blogspot ! i think you should switch everything over to the kind of site skeebs has here !

  106. robNo Gravatar says:

    gore is just going for some of that extra new CBA / cap money ! imo he’ll be in camp pretty quick !

  107. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I would like to see Bush on the team.

  108. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Hey rob, if you’re running things would you please spice things up a little. I think we’re losing this race.

  109. robNo Gravatar says:

    Bucs lock up top three draft picks | Jason La Canfora
    Giants to part ways with veteran DT Bernard | Jason La Canfora
    Lions to keep Stanton behind Stafford | Jason La Canfora
    Cover Two Podcast: Rookies going into storage? | Sidelines
    Eagles strike deals with eight draft picks | Jason La Canfora
    Bucs keep LB Black on five-year, $29M pact | Jason La Canfora
    Vinatieri re-ups with Colts for three years | Jason La Canfora
    Data Points: Deion knew how to score | News
    Offensive line market remains hot | Jason La Canfora
    Giants, TE Boss in negotiations, but others in mix | Jason La Canfora
    Panthers agree to terms with kicker Mare | Jason La Canfora
    Hartsock to team up with Shockey in Carolina | Jason La Canfora
    Gallery to follow Cable to Seahawks | Jason La Canfora

    hasselbeck to titans !
    DENNIS stay off that ledge !

  110. robNo Gravatar says:

    hasselbeck to titans !
    vince young will be available !

  111. robNo Gravatar says:

    beef up ?
    The Giants plan to release DT Rocky Bernard on Thursday, according to a source.

    Bernard, 32, couldn’t agree with the team on a restructured deal.

    He appeared in 14 games last season, totaling 18 tackles and two sacks.

  112. robNo Gravatar says:

    Latest News
    Vikes to acquire McNabb from ‘Skins if new deal done | Watch
    Jets give Holmes 5-year deal | Edwards slighted | Cpt. Sanchez
    Revis: Jets adding Asomugha ‘would be awesome’ | Moss, too?
    Chargers will make Weddle NFL’s highest-paid safety | Watch
    Cable’s guy: Seahawks reunite G Gallery with old O-line coach
    Cardinals expected to acquire QB Kolb | Is Orton Miami-bound?
    Hasselbeck agrees to terms with Titans | What about CJ2K?
    Coughlin signs extension with Giants | Will meet with Burress
    Redskins acquire WR Gaffney from Broncos for DE Jarmon

  113. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    5yrs/$20M with 7 guaranteed for a part-time player last year who had the same number of sacks as you and I had. Seriously, this team doesn’t have a clue. That signing all but guarantees AF heading elsewhere and soap moving to NT. McDonald/Soap/J. Smith left to right. Who do you think will be getting the double and even triple teams of those three? That’s right, Justin Smith. I feel sorry for him. His numbers this year will be historically bad by his standards, but not by his doings. Free bit of fantasy football advice for IDPs this year — do not, I repeat do NOT draft Justin Smith as one of your DL. His numbers will plummet. Bonus FF tip: Patrick Willis’s numbers will also take a huge hit with AF moving elsewhere. He won’t be getting the clean shots with Soap 1-gaping and attacking the QB instead of holding the point. Bad for fantasy, but I do like that strategy in real life football. I’m sick and tired of stopping the run first and foremost. Stop the pass first and foremost for a change. This a a passing league now. Has been for a while. People who still live by the “run the ball and stop the run” motto are blooming idiots. Pass the ball and stop the pass!

  114. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Tomorrow is Part One of Free Agent fun when teams reveal their
    waived players

    Barrows is reporting the Niners are talking to Olin Kreutz
    and also Travis LaBoy.

    Baas hit the jackpot and now is one of the most highly paid centers in the league. We all know he was decent but not all that.

  115. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Exactly bullit. Why overpay for average talent? Despite the whining by some here that “this proves we’re doomed, doomed I tell ya”.
    Save the big bucks for top notch talent, NA for example.

  116. robNo Gravatar says:

    baas was good but didn’t fit the system very well ! kreutz might be an upgrade i hope we get him !
    thx bul

  117. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Baas signed a contract that makes him the third highest paid Center in the NFL

    Without looking it up can you name the 4 2010 Pro Bowl Centers?

  118. robNo Gravatar says:

    no but kreutz has been to six !

  119. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The 2010 Pro Bowl Centers were
    AFC Saturday Mack
    NFC Gurode Kalil

    Baas make more money now than at least 2 of these guys because Pouncy signed a big contract as a rookie

  120. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Rebuilding is in full swing with Baas, Franklin, Takeo and Clements gone. Lawson and Goldson probably will go too.

    I expect a difficult year of trial and error, finding their replacements, and watching them grow into starting roles.

  121. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Grump, that was the politest way to say, “The Niners are going to suck total ass this year!”
    You must be in a good mood tonight. 😀
    I, however, am not. 👿

  122. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Baas = Cement Feet, Kreutz would be fine. He comes to play and finishes every play.
    I’d make the best deal I could for Gore if he’s not planning to start this Camp on time.
    Ship him to TB for Josh Johnson?
    Maybe the Pats for Wilfork? I’d figure Ron Brace is ready to show his stuff there?
    Dolphins for a Draft Pick?
    He’s in the final year of his deal and lost alot of tread on his tires already. Love him to death but, I wouldn’t gamble with his future production at this point of his career.

  123. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve got no problem with losing Baas and Spikes. Clements for Asomugha is no brainer if it happens. I’ve been thinking we would legitimately go after Nnamdi for a couple of weeks now, even when we said we would not be major players. Cutting Nate and giving the money to Nnamdi just makes too much sense. A guy I work with is a Cowboys fan and another is a Raiders fan, I told both of them two weeks ago that Nnamdi would be a Niner. We shall wait and see.

  124. robNo Gravatar says:

    y not sign mebane and joseph with that $$

  125. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Listen to me, Nnamdi would be a HUGE mistake. That’s right, a HUGE mistake. Teams like the 49ers shouldn’t sign players like Asomugha. That’s for teams that are one “big player” away. You know, like when we signed Deion? This team is not one big player away. I’m not even going to list the myriad of players that we’re currently missing. There’s not enough time for that. Nnamdi belongs on a team like the Jets. If he even has an one ounce of smarts in his brain, he’ll sign with the Jets, not our Niners.

  126. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Key milestones

    Thurs 1:01 PM PDT All players waived revealed

    Fri 3:00 PM Free Agent Signings
    can officially begin

    Everything up to now has been announcements and speculation

  127. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I like the idea of putting a Leader like Nnamdi back there with a young Secondary. Won’t kill me if we miss him, just glad we’re making a play for him.
    Everyone knows we need his talents and keeping him in the Bay Area just might appeal to him, along with a lot of zeros too of course.

  128. robNo Gravatar says:

    i’ll ask you this one …
    my free agency scenario for the 9ers would be
    re-sign goldson re-structure clements and use the money to go after kruetz , mebane and joseph !
    oh , btw i thought ian williams was a good signing !

  129. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Albert Haynesworth traded to Patriots for a 5th round pick in 2013!!
    If he turns on the motor like Moss did a few years back, Pats have an absolute steal.

  130. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Get Asumogha, Cullen Bryant and a good NT. Then I will see you in the play-offs.

  131. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Oops- I meant to write Cullen Jenkins, not Cullin Bryant.

  132. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Kaepernick hasn’t signed yet, Carr is getting cut, so there are no QBs available on first day of Training Camp.

  133. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Barrows just tweeted all 49er draft paicks are signed and will report to training camp this morning
    happened just before 8am

  134. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger Cullen Bryant? Hame rings a bell. Old Rams RB big like Stephen Jackson. Just looked him up.
    Unfortunately he died in 2009 RIP

    I still remember the old LA Rams with Roman Gabriel, Dick Bass and Jack Snow and the Fearsome Foursome. Brodie was constantly being harassed and assaulted by those guys.

  135. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Keep the news comin guys, I can’t seem to find crap about anything right now. Oh, I did hear that Seattle got Rice from the Vikes. He’s twice as good as any of our WR’s.

  136. winderNo Gravatar says:

    bullit – Those guys are just a few of the reasons that I hate the Ram’s with a passion.

  137. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Frank Gore holding out puzzles me.
    Especially going into the last year of a contract and coming off a major injury. He doesn’t have much leverage at this point in time and he’s thinking more about himself instead of the success of the team. His agent says he’s 100%
    which means nothing.
    he needs to come in and perform like his old self and then the Niners might give him a 2 year extension.
    In the meantime I still would take a serious look at Michael Bush who’s a UFA unless Harbaugh has total confidence in Dixon and Hunter.

  138. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The last time I saw Roman Gabriel was either on Sheriff Lobo or BJ and the Bear as he turned to acting.
    Gabriel was the hardest QB to bring down as he would swat LBs and defensive linemen like King Kong swatting flies.

  139. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Berger. What the hell are they putting in the water up there in Sacto? See you in the playoffs? Did I miss the part where we traded for Tom Brady? You’re too funny.
    Houston has now moved into the lead for Nnamdi. He’s was never coming here. You guys are a bunch of saps.

  140. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    “Harbaugh has total confidence in Dixon and Hunter.”
    Bullit, Harbaugh hasn’t seen either of those two eye-to-eye on an NFL field. And Hunter has yet to step on one. Yet you claim Harbaugh has total confidence. How much are the 49ers paying you to spread this propaganda? You’re too much.

  141. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Rob, all you have to do is uncheck the ‘Stay Signed On’ box, and you can post there.

  142. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullitt, I hated Roman Gabriel with a passion. The guy would cream the Niners with regularity. And this came right after the Niners made their near-SB runs in the early 70s.

  143. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    The thing is, the Niners should deal Gore. He’s been a good soldier. Let him get his big payday somewhere else.
    Trade Crabs for that matter. He’s done nothing to warrant the bullshit he’s caused. If they can get value for him, do it.
    If they sign Nnamdi and let AF go, this front office should all be fired. Signing Nnamdi would be nothing more than a PR stunt. A stadium push deal. It would NOT help the team in any measurable way.

  144. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Signing another Center that’s a starter might not be that difficult per Sando of ESPN

    “At least two and possibly three NFC West teams will have new starting centers in 2011.
    Here is the entire article

    Max Unger is replacing free agent Chris Spencer in Seattle. San Francisco has an opening after Eric Heitmann had surgery and his 2010 replacement, David Baas, agreed to terms with the New York Giants. Arizona’s Lyle Sendlein remains without an agreement for 2011, joining Spencer among the higher-ranked centers available this offseason.

    Casey Rabach’s expected release from the Washington Redskins adds another candidate to a list featuring free agents Olin Kreutz (Chicago Bears), Jonathan Goodwin (New Orleans Saints), Seindlein, Spencer and Samson Satele (Oakland Raiders). Rabach, 33, has started all but one game over the past seven seasons, dating to his days with Baltimore.

    Sendlein’s situation in Arizona is of particular interest in the NFC West. Arizona likes Sendlein very much and wants him to return. At what price? Sendlein wasn’t sure what to expect heading toward free agency. Would another team — San Francisco, even — pay more than the Cardinals would pay? Spencer has ties to 49ers line coach Mike Solari. The two were together in Seattle.

    Losing Sendlein would destabilize a Cardinals line already in flux following Alan Faneca’s retirement and Deuce Lutui’s potential departure. Green Bay’s Daryn Colledge could wind up replacing Faneca. Veteran Rex Hadnot is under contract and could start if needed. Centers don’t get much acclaim, but how well they communicate with quarterbacks can matter a great deal. Centers are also well positioned to be leaders of a line

  145. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger The Redskins have a deal
    with Cullen Jenkins

  146. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Signing Nnamdi would be a colossal failure on the part of this front office. Didn’t the Clements signing teach them anything?

  147. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Did the front office learn anything? They just re-signed McDonald and A*** S**** for a combined $25M. You be the judge.

  148. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    You don’t have to worry about it now, NoFear. Jason LaCanfora reports that the Niners have indeed released Nate Clements.

  149. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow, NoFear. Clements=Willis? Once again, you are distracted by shiny objects. Nnamdi is a very shiny object with little value to this team as it is constituted now.
    Signing another CB to another multi-year/multi-million dollar deal does not help the team in any measurable way, other than as a PR move.
    The 49ers of the mid 70s had the best cover CB in the game in Jimmy Johnson. He’d get maybe 1-2 passes thrown his way a game. If that. They still lost with sickening regularity, as the rest of the defense wasn’t very good.
    Spencer is fine as our other corner, but without a strong NT (especially in a 3-4), teams will run up the middle. AZ and Seattle have QB issues as well, and are building running teams. Nnamdi won’t help much there. Without a pas rush, teams will focus on Spencer and go after the LBs covering the TEs. All this negates Nnamdi. He takes the ‘best’ WR off the table, but all the other pass catchers are going to be free and clear if there isn’t a pass rush.
    ‘What else’? What else doesn’t matter. They’ve signed McDonald to a 5 year/$20 million deal. He of 8 his starts 3 years ago, and 0 sacks lasr year. Alex got $5 mill. They’ve signed all their draft picks. Good for them. They need to strengthen their D line, and address the pass rush.
    Maybe scheme wins out over players under Fangio. Maybe he can generate a pass rush with an unproven 20 year old rookie and an underwhelming group of guys. But to think Nnamdi helps this team is ludicrous. It would be a PR stunt, nothing more.

  150. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    “UNLESS Harbaugh has total confidence in Hunter and Dixon”. Just read before you fall into serial hysterics man

  151. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Unca I’m coming around to your point of view re: need for NT over a good corner. It will be sad if we can’t stop the run

  152. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    PF Some people read what they want to. Clearly my words got twisted. Then I get accused for spreading propaganda. This from the lips of the Anti-Niner?

  153. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep, true that : )

  154. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Lot of hysterical nonsense getting posted today.

  155. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Kap has signed now Skeebs so hey we got us one QB for Friday. Two if you count Masoli

  156. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t care what says, the word of the day is ‘hysterics’ LOL

  157. robNo Gravatar says:

    we should use the money we saved by letting clements go to sign mebane , j.joseph and …

    “And there aren’t many available in free agency.

    Probably the top name out there is longtime Bears center Olin Kreutz, so it’s no surprise the 49ers have entered the bidding for him. Michael C. Wright of reports that the 49ers sent Kreutz a contract proposal Wednesday night.

    The Bears made an offer too, but Wright’s source says ” it doesn’t reflect how important he is to the team.”

    Translation: We’re getting pissed off, so up your offer or we’re really going to leave “

  158. robNo Gravatar says:

    hysterical nonsense

  159. robNo Gravatar says:

    Poll position: Texans primed to land free-agent CB Asomugha
    Redskins trade Haynesworth to Pats

  160. robNo Gravatar says:

    there we go ! one of my three CB’s !!!
    “Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee (@mattbarrows) reports that the San Francisco 49ers, Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars have shown interest in cornerback Chris Carr”

  161. robNo Gravatar says:

    good kruetz , mebane and carr !

  162. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, maybe I wouldn’t misread your comments if you didn’t hit the damn enter button all the time and break up the continuity of your sentences. You have a bad habit of doing that, and it can be confusing. Just sayin’…
    And oh yeah, PANIC! Mass hysteria is at hand!

  163. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kevin Kolb was just traded to the Cards for Cromartie and a #2 pick
    per Lombardi of NFL Network

  164. robNo Gravatar says:

    read !

  165. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    PFT just reported the Cullen Jenkins deal is off.
    Jenkins is back in play.

  166. robNo Gravatar says:

    good , now AZ has good WR’s and CB’s but a very mediocre QB !

  167. robNo Gravatar says:

    good , jenkins is one of my three big D-linemen ! are we looking at him ?

  168. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    This just in from Maiocco: Isaac Sopoaga said he found out yesterday while meeting with DL coach Jim Tomsula he’d be moving to nose tackle for the 49ers.
    Buh-bye Franklin. Maybe NoFear is right. Patrick Willis might be getting kicked to the curb next.

  169. robNo Gravatar says:

    6’4′ / 315
    Age / DOB: (27) / 2/14/1984

    Packers waived DL Justin Harrell.Now 27, Harrell is coming off a torn ACL after missing the majority of the 2007-2009 seasons with back injuries. He’s played just 14 of a possible 64 games since GM Ted Thompson selected him at No. 16 overall out of Tennessee.

    maybe we should offer vet minimum for harrell ?

  170. robNo Gravatar says:

    Vikings informed DT Jimmy Kennedy of his release.No shocker here. Kennedy failed to live up to his $6 million extension signed in March of 2010, earning just 11.5% of the Vikings’ defensive snaps last season. The 31-year-old drew interest from the Bills at the time, but that’s no longer a great need in Buffalo. Beat writer Tom Pelissero suggests the Vikes could be freeing up space to re-sign NT Pat Williams.

  171. robNo Gravatar says:

    Ravens informed NT Kelly Gregg of his release.The move was made to clear $3.5 million in salary, but Jamison Hensley of the Baltimore Sun speculates that Gregg could re-sign for a one- or two-year deal worth $1-2 million this season. The Ravens definitely want him back for a rotational role. Now 34, Gregg is going to lose his starting job to Terrence Cody.

  172. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Rob, we’re not signing anyone of consequence at NT. We already have our three; Soap, RJF and Williams. Didn’t you listen to Baalke and Jed that we weren’t going to make any big splashes in FA? They just want to re-sign their own crap. Boy do we have it coming this year. Hide the women and children. This is gonna get ugly.

  173. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Ariz just gave Kolb a $63 mil
    5 year contract $21 mil guaranteed
    to close the deal

  174. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    ESPN Chicago has the Bears and Niner after Kreutz. The Niners made him an offer last night so it’s on the table
    Forgot that Kreutz has been a Pro Bowl center six times.

  175. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Anyone who says they’d rather have A*** S**** than Kevin Kolb for their QB is either; A) totally full of shit B) too much of a Niner homer and unwilling to admit the truth C) a colossal maroon of epic proportions unlike any other ever seen before

  176. robNo Gravatar says:

    giving kolb MORE THAN 11 mil per season is
    C) a colossal maroon of epic proportions unlike any other ever seen before
    i like mebane and maybe jenkins for our D-line and joseph , carr and maybe one other for the secondary ! the three i put up at 12:12-12:18 might be good for taking a (low risk / low money) look at if we miss out on one of the top free agents i listed ! adding another big D linemen to the mix is never a bad idea imo

  177. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Giving up Cromartie and a 2nd for Kolb IS pretty steep.
    AZ had MAJOR QB issues last year, however. Sound familiar?
    The longer the Niners go without signing a vet QB, the weirder this FA period is. They CANNOT expect to float through the season with Alex and Kappy as the 2 QBs. Unless they envision Masoli as a / tyoe guy.
    Curiouser and curiouser.

  178. robNo Gravatar says:

    vince young is available !

  179. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    They might as well clone Alex, Rob . . .

  180. robNo Gravatar says:

    ooooh !

    ” Sun Bowl followed by the Senior Bowl where his four solo tackles and a sack made pro scouts take notice.”

    now i remember ian williams ! i’m more excited now than i was when we signed him !
    why did he go undrafted ?

  181. robNo Gravatar says:

    no CHUCK

    young can play and is effed up in the head !
    smith is smart and can’t play !

    maybe we can transplant smith’s brain into young’s body !

  182. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    2-14 and draft Andrew Luck. That would be my ideal 2011 49er season.

  183. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s your QB help, Chuck: The 49ers signed McLeod Bethel-Thompson from Sac State. He’ll be able to take the field w/ Kaepernick tomorrow.
    Like I said, 2-14 and draft Andrew Luck.

  184. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Did you guys hear the 49ers tried to trade for, wait, Chad Ochocinco? Yep. We lost out to Tom Brady and the Patriots. The Pats get Haynesworth and Ochocinco in trades and the Niners get Mcleod Bethel-Thompson at QB.
    If there is a God we’ll finish 2-14 and get Luck.

  185. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Just to be clear, I in NO way wanted to get Ochocinco. It’s the mere fact that this FO went after him just furthers my belief that this organization is Mickey Mouse personified. Pass the cheese please.

  186. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    It would have been the absolute historic all-time All-Diva team, though, with Crabs and VD. Would have been fun seeing who broke a nail first.

  187. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry, Rob. Jonathan Joseph is signing with the Texans. Nnamdi looking more and more like a J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets! I don’t know what the hell, if anything the Niners are getting. Top three corners this year could very well be; Spencer, T. Brown and Culliver. Wouldn’t surprise me one tiny bit.

  188. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey! The Niners just signed the one FA that was atop my list — David “Green” Akers from the Eagles. How long have I been saying we needed a new PK? Buh-bye Joe Nedney. Thanks for the memories and your calcified mass.

  189. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry again, Rob. CBS Sports is reporting that Vince Young is heading to Philly. Who do you want now? I’m sure there’s a few more QBs on your list.

  190. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Crabtree’s going to miss 4-6 weeks with that bum foot of his. Another missed camp and preseason for the venereal one. Are you people beginning to see a pattern here? I hope to hell you are.
    2-14 and draft Andrew Luck. But Berger still thinks we’re making the playoffs. I can only offer you a Telly Savalas. “Who loves ya, baby?”

  191. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Seriously, this goes out to all of you — please to not insult my intelligence with any playoff predictions. Don’t. Just don’t.
    Do you recall what I was saying back when they held “Camp A***” and Crabtree was pulling his crap back then? He doesn’t want to play with A*** S****. I told you Crabtree hates his guts. He wouldn’t mention him by name OR stipulate that he was going to be the QB. I said back then that one of them had to go. Well, unfortunately the one I want to leave is staying. That makes Crabtree as the odd man out. Their “relationship” cannot work. If you think otherwise, you’re in complete denial.

  192. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- There you go twisting. I said get me Asomugha, Cullen Jenkins and a good NT and I’ll see you in the play-offs. Go look it up. When we get those three get back to me.

  193. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    BTW- I would take Alex Smith over Kolb. Kolb has not impressed except for one game, against us and the Sing defense. I so glad our division rival spent as much as they did for him. That should hurt them for a while.

  194. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    AZ overpaid for an obvious need. The Niners picked up Sac State’s QB. A guy who wouldn’t get drafted by his mother.
    This shit is getting weirder and weirder.

    Trade f*cking Crabs the second he’s healthy. He’s a goddamn cancer, not an STD. Gore should go, too.
    If they are letting AF walk, and Golson/Lawson soon behind, and their QBs are Smith, Kappy, and meet-Joe-Nobody, then I’m lost as to what they are planning on doing this year.

  195. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    All this talk about who is going where means nothing until Friday at 3PM PDT when the signings start.

  196. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, the team seems to think they are set at QB.
    Mind-blowing. . .

  197. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry I haven’t been able to join the fun, fellas, or put up a new post today. My computer crashed and burned Thursday morning and I am logged in now on Skeebette’s computer. Don’t know when I’ll get mine back on line. Carry on. Thanks to all for keeping the site up to date on the news. Which has not been all that wonderful so far.

  198. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers- You have plenty of time. Signings don’t start until 3:00 PM today.

  199. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NFL Network now reports the Niners have pulled out of the Nnamdhi sweepstakes. It’s now Jets or Cowboys now.
    Plan B would be Richard Marshall (Carolina), Chris Carr (Baltimore), or Carlos Rogers (Washington)

    Niners probably need to look at available WRs either James Jones or Malcom Floyd.

  200. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This is my take of what’s happened in the last few days with Free Agency. NFL rules prohibited face to face meetings and workouts so this is like shopping online and going by past accomplishments and reputation and not the traditional way of doing business. Regardless you can announce deals that have been agreed upon but it’s not official until the contract gets signed and that can’t happen until 3pm today. Even though contract is signed the Free Agent can’t practice with their team until 8/04 next Thurs. Also 8/04 is when teams need to be in compliance with the $123 mil salary cap so more cuts may be coming. That is one reason Denver
    is trying to unlaod Orton and Miami is playing hardball knowing they will lower their price the closer to 8/04 they get.
    Execept for PR purposes there is no reason to announce deals until you have the player signed and sealed. Stay tuned.

  201. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Berger – I hope your right because it sure looks like they’re tanking the season. I wouldn’t even mind so much if we were actually building a team with players full of potential. I think getting rid of Spikes, and Baas was not that big of a deal. I just hope the read on these new Niners pan out. Let’s see who the cb’s, ol’s and dl’s are after the 3pm signings. Because A. Smith ain’t taking us to the promised land.

  202. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Winder The Niners didn’t get rid of Spikes and Baas. Somebody overpaid for both these guys.
    What would you say if the Niners matched the Giants offer and made
    Baas the 3rd highest paid center in the league? When it comes to to re up it affects the salary structure of your entire offensive line.

  203. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Spikes signed a 3 year contract
    for $9 mil with $3 mil guaranteed
    Niners would only give him a one year deal and then it became all about the money.
    Tampa Bay was paying Barret Ruud
    $3.3 mil/yr and released him.
    Sign him for $4 mil yr for 4 years and you are set at ILB as Ruud is only 28.

  204. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, the signings they HAVE made are what have me scratching my head. Good, bad, awful, or indifferent, Alex was a given. McDonald? Akers? Be still my heart.
    Letting Cement Clements go? Ehhhhh. What they DO about that is the real question. T. Brown? Please. Nnamdi was a pipedream anyway, so I’m glad to hear that he’s not on our radar anymore.
    Losing Baas isn’t much. Neither is TKO. Again, though what they do about those vacancies is the issue. Bowman should be fine with a decent coaching staff in place. Plus they have Brooks, LaBoy, McKillop, and a few others to fill that void. I’m hoping they get the Bears C, Olin Kreutz? A vet who can step in and make the line calls.
    WR? Crabs is AWOL again. Mystery foot injury. Glory be. Trade him. There are 50 guys out there (hello, James Jones) who can do what he does without all the drama bullshit. This WR corps is underwhelming to say the least. I think the rooks are in the lead.
    I guess we’ll have more answers later today, but the FA period so far is a confusing mess.

  205. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Winder- Is this a play-off team? Not as it sits now. Do we want to over pay for Baas and Spikes? Maybe if we are a perennial contender, but that isn’t the case. Alex is as stop gap and a good one for this year, I doubt he’ll be here next year. Kaeppy will be in year two and Josh Johnson will be a free agent. If Alex is here next year it would be because he had a really good year this year, and then what would be the problem with the haters? It is a no lose situation for the 49ers.
    I do expect to be a play-off contender by next year so I believe we should start looking to get younger at positions that we would otherwise need to over pay for. Baas, Spikes and QB come to mind. I would concentrate on D-line and CB for this year and see if we have something in McKillop or Bowman. I want DE Cullin Jenkins, CB Nnamdi and another NT; Mebane, Franklin or Kelly Gregg. I don’t believe we are out of the Nnamdi talks until he signs elsewhere. Remember the Harbaugh talks? Isn’t that how that one went? We lost him and then he signed.

  206. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, how come you didn’t tell me you were going to Disneyland? How do I know you’re in Disneyland? You’re obviously smack-dab in the middle of Fantasyland as we speak.

  207. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- I don’t know much about Ruud, but it is an intersting name. Please tell me a little about Ruud’s size and style of play.

  208. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- I see mylar pigs in your future!

  209. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    And which one of you knuckleheads just said the other day, “just wait tell Heitmann comes back?” Well, you can wait with Berger in that long line for Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride in Fantasyland. The Niners just released him.

  210. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I see flying pigs!

  211. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, this is exactly what’s happening to the Niners and their Mylar pigs. Bend over.

  212. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, it looks like they’re flying high!

  213. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    They aren’t going to blow their wad on Nnamdi. But I don’t see them addressing any of their glaring holes either.
    I don’t get it. They seem to be playing this FA period for draft position next year.

  214. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    The thing about D line is they HAVE a good enough NT in AF. And they plan to let him walk.
    This is no help to the team. They should be looking to sign Chris Carr. He’s no Nnamdi, but he’s a solid guy.

  215. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Chris Carr went to high school in Reno!

  216. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Chris Carr? Didn’t we learn our lesson with the last Carr, David? No more Carr’s!

  217. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Silly me for thinking the Niners would learn a lesson like that. They just drafted another A. Smith in the 1st round.

  218. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Barrett Ruud played inside LB in college and is a MLB for Tampa Bay
    If Bowman is found lacking this guy would be great 6-2 240 lbs
    and a tacking machine

    Maybe wishful thinking on my part

  219. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger most of the idiots on SF Gate are skewering Baalke and York
    They don’t realize that nobody gets signed until 3pm today
    Want to call out these morons but what’s the point?
    I don’t think this roster will be settled for another 2 weeks

  220. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, does this site filter it’s posts? I think I just got one rejected.

  221. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll try again. I am not upset about losing Spikes, or Baas. I won’t be upset about losing Clements, Goldson, or Manny. I hope they all get lucrative contract where ever they go. I am a believer in addition by subtraction. The only thing is we’ve done squat in this FA signing period. So that leaves us with a bunch of kids taking over spots. And, of course, the bigtime A.Smith signing, woopthef%$&eee

  222. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    There goes Bullit again defending this organization and thinking everything is just hunky-dory. Please send me a case of what you’re drinking. I’ll even flip for the S&H. This roster won’t be settled for another two weeks? There won’t be anyone left to sign in two weeks. Save another QB from Sac. St.

  223. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, 49ers! What’cha got so far in this frenzied FA period? We got a new kicker and a QB from Sac. St. Beat us if you can.

  224. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Berger – I hope they do something at the 3pm signing period, but do you really believe there is still a rabbit to pull out of the hat? I am leaning the other way, i guess I am one of those marrooons.

  225. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    winder- I’d rather be one of those maroons over being depressed all the time.

  226. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I tell ya, if they are going about entering the Andrew Luck sweepstakes, they are right on schedule.

  227. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- I agree. We shall see what happens. Most that are signed today are overpaid. There is much better value by waiting a day or four. I would love to have Nnamdi, but not at 15 mil. Maybe at 12, definitely at 10. Let’s see later on what he is being offered. If he signs for more than 12 mil I will be glad we didn’t pay up.

  228. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis Here is complete list of NFL Free Agents with teams they have signed with.

    Like I said, you are only dealing with agents of players now. After 3pm today you can bring the player in and work him out or check out his medical issues.
    Right now a lot of teams are overpaying and the agents love it.

  229. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shit, maybe they get a bunch of lunchpail guys to fill out the roster.
    Or maybe Gavin McLeod is our back up QB.

  230. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Gopher and Issac can’t be too far behind. But if we sign Julie to be our Cruise Director, that’s where I draw the line.

  231. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, I realize there’s a long list of available FAs. My point was that most of if not all of the perceived “good ones” will be off the market. But of course just because the ones who go first doesn’t necessarily make them the best FAs. But my concern is that the Niners will be forced to overpay for the talent remaining just to reach the salary cap floor. What, they have to spend somewhere between $15-18M or so to do so. They might end up paying almost as much for a corner like Richard Marshall from CAR as they would have for a guy like Jonathan Joseph.

  232. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Of course they don’t have to sign anyone to spend all that money. They could just give A*** S**** another $15M this year.

  233. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    That QB from Sac State is purely a camp arm. He will be cut on 8/04
    when free agents can report.
    In the old days they always allowed local QBs from Santa Clara, St Mary’s, UC Davis to be camp arms. Now Santa Clara and ST Mary’s no longer play football.
    The stipulation for the Sac St QB was he must a undrafted or he would have to wait until 8/04.
    Get it? Got it? Gooood!

  234. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, I got. I already had it. My question: are they going to bring in another exp. QB to compete with #11? You have to have four QBs for camp. If all they get is another Sac. St. type to fill out the camp roster, I’ll know this whole compete thing was a sham just like I said it was. We’ll see…

  235. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Barrows just reported that 7th rd pick Curtis Holcomb CB ruptured his achilles so he’s done after the first practice Now that’s bad luck.

  236. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis they could sign 5 QBs today and they can’t report until next Thurs. They signed that guy from Sac St as a camp arm because CK is the only other QB in Santa Clara

  237. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Ok, they have 15 minutes to get this right. Lol

  238. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Sad to hear about Holcome, we can’t afford to lose anyone from our D backfield. Must be real tough on a kid.

  239. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe Harbaugh has a little Houdini in him. I would really like to hear what’s going on in his mind right now.

  240. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Jeez, It’s 11:49 Hawaii time and I am so caffine buzzed that I just might continue posting. This team is gonna stress the crap out of me, I just know it.

  241. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NFL Network just reported the Jets are out of the Nnamdhi race.

  242. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Nnamdhi to the Eagles

  243. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    5yrs, 60 mil.

  244. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    So far the winning theory on the 9ers ‘team building exercise’ is that they are on a youth movement, cutting vets or dumping their salaries so the JH regime can get their own guys. Cheaper; coach ’em up. Well okay then. 8-8 may be a stretch. Not sure I agree with the ‘tank so we can get Luck’ thought tho.
    Crabtree, Gore out too. This is where the new regime is at the predicted big disadvantage coming off the lockout over established organizations. FA Players want to go to teams who are a sure thing. Can’t blame ’em. I’m not seeing much from Baalke that inspires me either.

  245. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    It’s a good time for Skeeb’s ‘puter to take a crap though.

  246. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, still think we have a chance at Nnamdi? We NEVER had a chance. It was all a PR smoke screen to make it look like the organization was trying. They’re trying alright. Trying my goddamn patience.

  247. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- The good news is you can stay depressed. That is what seems to make you happy.

  248. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Mebane re-signs with Seattle
    LaBoy signs with Bolts

  249. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I need a beer! I’ll start with a 22 oz, 11% Dogfather Imperial Stout. Followed by a few Sierra Nevada Torpedos at 7.2%. Yum!

  250. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    A Dogfather beer? I guess it made you an offer you couldn’t refuse.

  251. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Dogfather is a good good beer. Actually, I’d say it is a barley wine. Not sure if barley wine is beer, I’d say it is. This one is a stout, I’m not much into stouts, but I am into 11% beer. Anyway (a good Genises song) barley wines are a nice way to start a week-end.

  252. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I just pulled this comment off of the Anyway video. I’m not sure I totally agree, but it does have merit.
    “Magnificent, eh? I don’t know what’s happened to music & the human race over the past 30 years, but here’s a reminder of what we once were.
    This comment was in response to the song Anyway. You guys should listen to what was once a part of Rock. This was progressive underground Rock, which is now dead, but alive in the minds of us old farts. Genesis, Pink Floyd, Yes, King Crimson, Roxy Music, Eno, etc…. Aah, the good old days!
    I’m surrounded by hair band fans these days. It is just not right. Hair bands sucked, except for a few songs. Like the first side of the first Van Halen album. After that, VH generally sucked.

  253. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17