Milk Carton Man

Most of the time, disappearing acts and football are not a good combination. Ask Michael Crabtree, who vanished during the playoffs.

But someone else dropped off the radar screen in 2011, too, and it was a very good thing. One might say an excellent thing.

Those of you who can remember stuff past last week or last month may recall that Right Tackle was a seriously bad issue in recent years. A bona fide blog clogging, pie throwing anguish.

But somewhere in the early to mid part of 2011, more or less in the vicinity of Adam Snyder replacing Chilo Rachal as the starting RG, replays of RT ineptitude or isolation shots of RT false starts ceased to make their weekly appearances on TV. Anthony Davis arrived by never being mentioned or viewed again. An offensive lineman’s nirvana.

2012 will be Anthony’s third year in the bigs, but he’ll only be 22. The 49ers traded up in the 2010 draft to get him, a move condsidered rash by those who favor itching, but that pick is looking good now.

The same cannot be said of poor old Chilo. The schlub had all the talent in the world, but he apparently suffers from wandering focusitus, and will probably not be wearing a 49er uniform next year. Maybe he’ll be a late bloomer somewhere in the league or maybe we’ll never hear of him again. So long, Chilo. Nice name, no game.

Three other guys from that 2008 draft are FAs this year, also. Reggie Smith, Larry Grant, and Josh Morgan. Morgan is the only one likely to be back and would then be the last man standing from that ill-fated draft. That draft was Scot McCloughan’s first effort and it was a stinker. The previous draft, under Mike Nolan, was a superb effort, netting Joe Staley, Patrick Willis, Ray McDonald, Dashon Goldson, and Tarell Brown.

2008 was not a total loss, though. It was that year, in one of McCloughan’s first moves as the Trigger, that the 49ers signed a FA DE named Justin Smith to a six year $45 million contract. There were many who thought the Niners overpaid for this guy then, but nobody is bitching about it these days.

Speaking of McCloughan, ha ha ha. The Niners sure rubbed his red little smack talk face in the mud in Seattle last year. That was a true eat shit moment. Let’s see, if I remember correctly, that was the game that Alex Smith hit Crabtree on a deep sideline pass surrounded by defenders in the fourth quarter that led to yet another come back victory. Eli Manning liked that effort so much, he copied it in the Super Bowl with Mario Manningham. Smith should sue for infringement. Especially since Smith can’t hit those kind of passes, in those tight windows, to receivers who aren’t wide open. He must have been trying to throw it OB, but short-armed it. Thank goodness Crabtree made a sensational catch to bail him out.

Rats. I wasn’t going to mention the QB in this post, just so I could have a fun weekend deleting all of Albert’s long winded stinky vapors for being off topic. Sigh. Another day, another blogobrawl.

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  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Berger was jumping for joy when we signed Justin Smith. Then I had to defend him for over a year to people who did not understand how a 3-4 DE is supposed to play the position. BTW, didn’t allforfunnplay show up here a couple times in the early going? He was great on history, not so much on strategy. Kind of like nofear.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The common agenda among the Niner hater trolls is to get rid of Alex Smith. V, Spitblood, Nofear, Guest and a handful on SF Gate
    are into the blame game ignoring
    the best season the Niners have had in a decade.
    One play away from the Super Bowl
    caused by gahhes on special teams yet the trolls still pin it on Alex Smith.
    If you take the position to give AS a fair chance you are labelled an Alex Smith Lover. In reality we are all just diehard Niner fans and want what’s best for the team and we believe in the coach
    and the plan. The trolls are only interested in derailing all success.
    Look at all the Niner blogs and the trolls keep grinding away with the same message from the same playbook. What appears to be
    10-15 trolls is most likely 2 or 3
    and often times you catch them in a misstep.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The word gahhes is menat to be gaffes. Too early to be typing

  4. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Stinky played a good song last night so I dug one up for him. Chris Rhea is one of my favorites.

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- guest probably has 10 screen names, all on point against Alex.

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Tom Gamble is out of the running for the Rams GM job which is great for the NIners.
    It’s down to George Paton or Les Snead.

  7. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “V, Spitblood, Nofear, Guest ..”

    Looks like a rock band that plays at roadkill barbecues.

  8. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of history, remember Dwight Hicks and the Hot Licks? That was Lott, Wright, Williamson and Hicks. Here is Dan Hicks and the Hot Licks. This is where the 49er backfield nickname came from.

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Remember Spitty saying he started blogging in 1996 at Chico State?

    History of blogging is this:

    November 1998: Cameron Barrett publishes the first list of blog sites on Camworld.

    Early 1999: Peter Merholz coins the term blog after announcing he was going to pronouce web blogs as “wee-blog”. This was then shortened to blog.

    Early 1999: Brigitte Eaton starts the first portal devoted to blogs with about 50 listings.

    July 1999: Metafilter’s earliest archives.

    July 1999: Pitas launches the first free build your own blog web tool.

    August 1999: Pyra releases Blogger which becomes the most popular web based blogging tool to date, and popularizes blogging with mainstream internet users.

    If you can please share what year you first started blogging about the Niners.
    It would be hard to post to a blog in 1996 when they didn’t exist.
    I myself started in 2008 on SF Gate

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    That band is not cup of tea.
    I didn’t watch “Hee Haw” or “Grand Olde Opry” either.

    But good nickname for the Niner secondary.
    Remember Dwight Hicks became an actor? Can you name a movie he’s appeared in without Googling?

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Damn the things you find on You Tube. This made my day and hopefully yours. Now that’s talent!

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Back to things 49ers.
    Video of the Niners playing golf at Pebble vs SF Giants.–Sounds-49ers-Giants-Charity-Shootout/d87510fd-6f82-42e0-af77-2812f688fb06

    Still can’t get over previous video. She waved goodbye!!!!

  13. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Curious. The 49ers let Bobby Engram walk to the same position at the college ranks, but they just denied Ed Donatell the right to discuss a promotion with the Bucs. Harbaugh said a lot of his guys would go onto promotions. At the time he was talking about his coordinators. Mark this down as, “I’d like to know but never will.” I wonder if Donatell is pissed off about this or not. If Fangio leaves, maybe Donatell is his replacement. Who knows?
    Harbaugh’s smart to let the offensive coaches go but create a hierarchy of defensive coaches climbing the ladder (if that’s what he’s doing). Harbaugh could probably coach the entire offense alone if he wanted.

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Are you trying to insult the rest of the blog by calling them girls?Shows the degree of your intellect you little titmouse.

  15. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- Maybe some kind of historical announcement so you can follow along!

  16. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    This is encouraging. I still have Kevin Lynch’s emails telling me I’m a pain in the ass. When I’m feeling down, I read them. They really bouy the spirits.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    There was much to cheer about in the 2011 season. The Niners increased their victory total over the previous year by 7 games.
    They won 13 games in the regular season tied for the second best record in the League. Won the NFC West and made the playoffs for the first time in 10 years. Won a playoff game. Niners had Coach of the Year and Executive of the Year. They sent nine players to the Pro Bowl.
    Yes there was quite a lot to cheer about. Could someone have a differing point of view? Let’s hear it.

  18. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Howdy boys. How do? I just finished 3rd in a huge Survivor contest league (horse, need I say that?) that only paid out to the top two finishers. 3rd place got’cha “thank’s for coming, better luck next time. How much Vaseline would you like applied?” Needless to say, I took it up the ass today and how.
    It’s just like when I was trying to explain to you guys when we lost to the Giants in the NFC Championship. So close, yet so far. I can’t handle that shit. Again, I don’t expect you to understand, but I expect you to respect my feelings.
    Maybe you’ll respect me more when I (finally) give you a LIVE Derby horse.
    East Coast: The Godfather (El Padrino). “It’s strictly business.”
    West Coast: Fed Biz: I’m partial to my “friend” Bob Baffert. I know him just a tad more than he knows me, but he DOES know me. But that’s besides the point. The FED BIZ is on point.
    Good luck.

  19. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Query? If you could have anyone currently living to know you, who would that be?
    I so much want to say a hot piece of ass like Kate Beckinsale, but I could use some money.
    Calling Buffet. Calling Mr. Warren Buffet. White courtesy phone. Dennis White courtesy phone. As Spit would say, Warren Buffet is a Geneous. Check that. Warren Buffet is a SUPER geneous.”
    Move over Wile E. Coyote. Meep! Meep!

  20. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Spit and others. You want “geneous?” I give you WB geneous. Babysitters be damned. This is not only structural, but it’s educational as well…

  21. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    One of the GREATEST endings in cartoon history…”OK wise guys, you wanted to me catch him, now what?”
    I told Rob this, and as much as I love Bugs, Foghorn Leghorn is my #1 cartoon love…I let Rob in a little secret. That Foghorn voice was used prior. And guess by whom? “Go away boy, you bother me.”
    “let’s play chess.” Oh, how do I love that…

  22. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, I believe my last comment once again went into your “canyon” of suppressed nuggets. I know my language gets “filthy” at times, but it’s NOT worthy of getting nixed. And my last comment certainly fell underneath those ramparts.
      What I’m trying to say is…
    would you do it for Randolph Scott?

  23. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I hate to say it, but I’m a goddamn “geneous!”
    Just ask my friends at WB.

  24. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    No joke: I’m thumbing through my original screenplay copy of “Blazing Saddles” just to see if I might have missed something.
    Ya know what, keep listing… I know for goddamn sure that I will…not that I need it. 馃榾

  25. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    This place is oppressive. Skeebers takes down all my funny material, then leaves up the flops. It’s a conspiracy I tell you.

  26. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Del… where’s the cartoon with Wiley and the carrots, calling himself a genius? That one was genius. But I am the super geneous. Straight Menza. Penultimate IQs and above.

  27. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Under the catagory, if it doesn’t kill you it should make you stronger.
    Whitney Houston just died at 48. I met my wife at 35 yrs old. We married 5 years later. I said to my wife, “bummer, when I was in my 20s that is the girl I wanted to fuk the most.” She hasn’t talked to me since. What did I do wrong? That was many years before I met my wife.
    Jeez, being honest with your wife isn’t always a good thing. Take note some of you. I won’t change.

  28. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Well, she is now talking to me. She has informed me she is gone.
    We are drinking. I think everything will be OK. Don’t know for sure. This could be my last post tonight.
    I love drinking, it is just honesty is the best policy is not necessarily accurate.
    Oh boy!

  29. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    About 15 years ago my brother and I hiked the John Muir Trail from Little Yosemite Valley to the top of Mt Whitney. Took us a month. We met a Scotsman above Redds Meadows (Mammoth), who was hiking the trail named after a former Scotsman – John Muir. He said the best thing to come out of America was Bob Dylan. In honor of Berger and Whitney… my personal Bob Dylan favorite.

  30. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Curious to know what the protocol is among contracted Coaches who get denied more lucrative options.
    Donatell is certainly worthy of the offer.
    Does he get a pay raise to stay I wonder?
    I do appreciate the fact that we’ve got another year of continuity coming.
    For this reason alone, I feel Alex will benefit.
    I hold 1 simple belief. Harbaugh.
    If he produced success with Josh Johnson and Andrew Luck, why not assume he knows what he’s doing?
    Alex got through Season 1 with the ‘Confidence’ phase.
    With a full Off Season to work more in depth, I hold hope for a more polished QB in September.
    He needs to be more fearless.
    See it, trust it, pull the trigger, let your receivers make plays.

  31. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Did Harbaugh win a championship with Josh Johnson or Andrew Luck? Nope. Sure, Harbaugh can make them successful, but can he make them champions? That’s now the question. When Harbaugh said, “I can win with Alex Smith,” what he should have been asking himself was, “Can I win a Super Bowl with Alex Smith?” The answer is no. Not now, not never, not gonna happen. Let’s not take our eyes off the ball – the game is Super Bowls from here on out.

  32. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I read that Tampa Bay was trying to pull a fast one because they already hired Butch Davis to be their DC but couldn’t give him the title because of the payout from his old job as Head Coach of North Carolina. Whether Butch had the title or not he is in Tampa to run their defense.
    The rules are changing as someone like Seattle essentially has two OCs one for running game and one for passing.
    If you look arund the league a lot of coaches were denied permission to interview.

  33. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Don’t be NoFear and waffle. I will say NoFear says no to Alex, but he waffles on everything else. What do you say about Alex? Sign him or no? Don’t be a NoFear. Contribute.

  34. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You kept harping that Alex Smith was 1-13 on third downs in the NFC Championship.
    What you don’t realize is the guy you called the best QB in the NFL, Eli Manning was only 2-14 on third downs after the first quarter and the Gnats punted a total of 12 times. twice more than the Niners.
    Your mancrush for Eli has blinded you.
    And Harbaugh won his league championship twice with Josh Johnson as his QB.

  35. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    My wife is in bed. I am hoping we wake up good. I love her, if she feels the same we will be good.
    The drama drags on until the morning. You idiots should pay me for this kind of drama.

  36. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    “You idiots should pay me for this kind of drama.”
    They pay for drama? Chuck owes me millions… and so does the Insider for that matter.

  37. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ and Spitblod- I think you guys are butt buddies. Alex lost because of 1-14 on 3rd down? Bullit just showed Manning was 2-14. This is like voting for Democrats because they were just part of the economic crises, even though they were the main reason. According to you idiots, Alex lost the game. I need more data.

  38. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    The rivers are comin’ into shape, and this little Stinkle is in heaven….

  39. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Waffle Berger? Not me.
    I try to be fair about what makes this Team better.
    Alex has his challenges, not the least of which is confidence.
    He got a good dose of that this year.
    He’s still slow on the draw too often and has to develop more touch.
    I was happy to see him take more shots this year, both outside and deep.
    He should do well with another year.
    He’s a smart option because he wants to be here and, will give us money to use in other areas.
    Albert, the QB position is about confidence.
    Alex lacked it bigtime. He got a taste of success finally.
    Luck won a Bowl game with Harbaugh and likely is the 1st pick in April.
    Harbaugh had everything to do with that.
    No one knows if Alex will win a SB until he does.
    We now have reason to believe we can get there.
    Work needs to be done of course. Isn’t all on Alex.
    It’s Baalkes’ job to find needed pieces that help him get there.
    Eli to Manningham won that game to beat Brady.
    Brady missed some big throws, Eli made them.
    Can happen to any QB, any game.
    Comes down to players making plays.
    Alex beat Brees.
    Who among us thought that was possible until it happened?

  40. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Nobody rides the fence on Alex more than my good buddy NJ.. I love NJ49er. Alex or no Alex? Don’t waffle. Should we resign him?

  41. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    “Hello, Pot? Yeah, this is kettle… you’re black.”
    Berger, don’t be jealous because NJ rides the fence better than you do. You are guilty as hell of trying to ride the fence because you know the minute Alex is gone that’s the minute my reign supreme will be a thing to behold. And my furry, my past frustration… years and years of it, will be pointed with razor sharp, like a diamond through the forehead – pointed right at you and Skeebers. I’d say Chuck but really, Chuck’s so hopped-up on goofballs the fight isn’t fun anymore, but his second user name, Bullit, seems coherent tonight. Either way, you ride the fence, too. I’ve hated him for years and years, and it’s been consistent. You? Not so consistent.

  42. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Alex showed leadership and confidence to me. You and I will agree or disagree. I want him as my QB. You pow wow with V, NoFear and Stinky, or me. You are in or out. Please declare.

  43. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    “OHHHH (girl voice)… I’ll support Harbaugh with anything he does regarding Alex Smith.” Puke. Now that Berger sees Harbaugh playing golf with Alex, and Alex accepting awards for Harbaugh, Berger is back on board, boy. But when Berger reads that Alex is talking with other teams in a month, Berger will be back singing his tune – “Whatever Harbaugh wants, I’m behind it.” Peeee…. uke.

  44. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – Don’t let Berger bully you. Most people have mixed feelings about Alex.

  45. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And how are Albert and I butt buddies?
    His opinion and mine, along with yours, differ.
    Your Pro, he’s Con, I’m willing to extend him to see if Harbaugh can bring his game to another level.
    I left the final game of this year feeling that Alex took some shots and missed, for whatever reason, we failed to deliver on 3rd downs.
    Needs to improve if we want to be talking Playoff contender for years to come.
    Starts with WRs and QB getting on the same page.

  46. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Stinkblood- Huh? Just as I was following your objection and loving your rebuttal, you went stinkblood on me. All of the sudden, nothing made sense.

  47. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Berger’s been on the fence, too. The only person pure in his belief and true to his principles around here is good ‘ole Stinkle. Actually, Skeebers has never wavered. But then again, Skeebers is afraid of his shadow, so that doesn’t count.

  48. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve declared Alex worthy of improving under Harbaugh Berger, thought I made that clear when I referred to Cap sense.
    My confidence has more to do with Harbaughs’ ability to develop his game. It showed this year.
    Give him a full Off Season and some time to work with his current and future WRs and see where it takes us.
    Cap friendly extension is the first step.

  49. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Berger – your video hasn’t gotten traction yet, but give it time. You need Del’s humor to help give it traction.
    I’ll tell you one thing – Sierra Nevada’s Torpedo is the best beer on the market for the money. Six pack for 8 bucks? Best beer on the market for the price.

  50. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    That’s the thing – if Harbaugh can get Alex Smith for a one year deal at 4 million – financially it makes sense because Kaep could then compete this year. But if you start talking 3 years, for whatever money, that’s just crazy talk.

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t sit on a fence, I look at what other options exist to improve our Team.
    Kaep has 1 year with Harbaugh just like Alex does.
    If they continue to work together and learn the System, one will outwork the other and improve.
    If you’re Baalke, you continue to find ways to improve your Team.
    I do the same thing, only I don’t have a damn thing to do with the outcome.
    I just share my opinions with you guys and anyone else who’ll listen.

  52. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Stinky- You are correct, I’ve been on the fence about Alex. We all know that. It is just that I have not waffled since October. He kicks butt on an injured Manning, and will always be better than Jake Locker.

  53. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t defend yourself, NJ. You have a more healthy outlook. Berger has issues with not being able to have Alex Smith’s baby because ….. (and it’s not what you think)…. because [s]he’s gone through menopause already. No little BergerSmith’s for him.
    And me?… my hair has fallen out, so have my teeth. I have no friends. My wife left me for a janitor, and my one foe, Unca, has gone certifiable. This hate ain’t healthy. You’re doin’ okay, kid.

  54. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- 10:44. Masterful way of saying nothing. You must be a Democrat?

  55. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    “always be better than Jake Locker.” You really are a genius. I’m not handing over my title as “supreme geneous,” but you’re a trolling genius.

  56. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – Don’t bite. Berger is throwing out a 40 foot cast master… it’s gold, it’s tempting. Don’t bite.

  57. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Albert I think it’s highly unlikely they get Alex again on a 1 yr deal.
    Have to make it lucrative enough to show him a commitment while leaving them the option to go to Kaep when they feel he’s ready.
    I’m thinking 3-4yrs, no more than 24M.
    Guarantee him 15-18M and backload it.
    They’ll come up with a fair deal to offer him.
    Not like he’s going to be getting chased around the League to start anywhere else.

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I could be a Communist for all you know. Who cares?
    I’m talking about my football team.
    Agree or disagree that Alex can improve his game?
    He did this year, I’ll hope he gets the chance to show whether there’s more to come.
    It will help my Team if he does.

  59. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Now you’re F’n with me, right? I was here in your time of need when Berger was throwin’ the heat at you, and you drop…. “3-4 more years of Alex” on me. This is how you return a favor?

  60. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If Alex hits the FA market he will be big time. 15+ mil yr. Butt buddies NJ and Albert think otherwise. We’ll see.

  61. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Let me ask you this, NJ – If there’s nobody else interested in Alex … (here are your words…”Not like he’s going to be chased around the league to start somewhere else”). Then riddle me this – why is 3 years necessary? Is it for Alex Smith’s confidence? Smith’s confidence looked fine to me in the middle of a one year deal.

  62. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Give Alex another year here, he’ll be considered an elite QB. Book it. Albert will melt. We will never hear from NoFear again. He will burn his draft card.

  63. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    LMAO…. Berger – close to geneous status.. but not quite.

  64. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    This is why Stinky and NJ are butt buddies. I think Alex will be an Elite QB in one or two seasons. They are still either dealing or wondering about him.

  65. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Albert he was tested on the 1yr deal to see what he’d produce.
    I think he earns another fair deal.
    He can stay here as the starter and Kaep can gain his confidence.
    I think 3yrs is fair because he’s still young.
    He lights things up in the next 2yrs you have him under Contract and can offer an extension.
    If he plateaus, you take the Kaep, (or other) option.

  66. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Besides, he can pick up some extra change working the Links as Harbaughs’ Caddy in the future.
    There’s a bond developing.
    Can’t say it’s a bad thing. Harbaugh made an investment in Alex, looks like it paid dividends in year 1.

  67. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No longer about confidence Albert, it’s about improving the passing game.
    Year 1 is done, he learned to function in the WCO.
    Now more steps need to be taken to keep the Offense on the Field on 3rd downs and, get TDs instead of FGs, when they reach the Red Zone.

  68. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – If there’s no demand for him around the league, “fair” is simply what they “can” pay him. There’s no emotion involved. It’s the market and the situation. Kaep is in the wings, so it’s a one year deal. Nobody else wants him, so it suppresses his value back down to 4 million. And there’s also a rising current that is beginning to suggest that Harbaugh creates qbs. This suppresses Smith value as well. So why pay and not be able to re-sign Brooks, Goldson, Snyder and Rogers?

  69. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – 99% of the time I respect what you’re saying, but I think you’re way off the mark regarding your reasoning for a 3 year deal. If nobody wants him, and his confidence was just fine this year under a one year deal, why pay him more than fair market value? For that matter, why would you ever pay more than fair market value for anything? Answer me that. Both you and Berger. Answer me that. If nobody wants him, why would the 49ers pay more than fair market value for him? His fair market value is 4 million per year, and actually, it might be less.

  70. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We’ll see Albert.
    I’m no GM of course, just trying to speculate what Alex and his Agent might seek.
    You know Baalke and Marathe have a number in mind, we’ll see how it shakes out.
    I expect something longer than 1yr, shorter than 5yrs.
    I just don’t think he’ll take backup money, nor do I see him making anything close to Kolb money.
    Somewhere in the middle is reality.

  71. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Matt Moore played for 2.5 million dollars last year, and will next year. He had comparable stats to Alex Smith this year. One difference – Matt Moore didn’t have Jim Harbaugh as his head coach.
    Alex Smith was overpaid in 2011.

  72. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    They could structure a Cap friendly deal that looks large in it’s entirety while guaranteeing 4-5M/Yr.
    That’s my main debate about him being the best option right now, money to use for other needed FAs on the Team and elsewhere.

  73. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Stinky- You are a funny guy. You are holding on to nobody wants Alex. You and NoFear need to tea.

  74. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Over tea, I’ll punch NoFear in the throat. But because he’s ex-military, he’ll see it coming, block my punch, and then its….

  75. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Stinky- How did that Saints beat 49ers, and Alex can’t win a shoot-out with Brees guarantee turn out?

  76. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Alex is a stand up guy.
    I give him lots of credit for sticking it out as he has.
    He took his shot at Nolan and Singletary when he accepted the award for Harbaugh.
    He never speaks ill of his Team mates and genuinely impressives me as a guy that wants to win.
    There’s plenty of upside for both sides to work out a fair price.
    I argued with the Philly Clown I work with when Kolb was on the mkt.
    I told him I’d give him a 4th Rd pick because I felt that Andy Reid would have kept him if he was worth anything. AZ got fleeced.
    We’re better off having this relationship with Harbaugh and Alex because I think it will keep his Contract offer ‘Friendly’.

  77. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If you block my punch, I’ll break your arm.

  78. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    The only way you’d break my arm is if you hired it done. It’s okay. When the old bull is put out to pasture, he still wants to roar.

  79. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    But, to Phillys’ credit, they got something for a guy they no longer wanted.
    Could be that Kaep is ready to take over in 2yrs.
    If Alex continues to improve and forces our hand on Kaeps’ next Contract, we could also have that luxury of dealing Alex to a QB needy Team.
    What happens with Sanchez and Gabbert in 2yrs? Who knows?
    Game changes constantly.
    Injuries, poor results, Cap management problems etc.
    Many successful Teams fail because they can’t pay everyone.
    We’ll be tested like that very soon.
    Gotta plan ahead and be smart with the Cap funds.
    Think Patrick would restructure to keep Goldson or Rogers in the mix?
    Good Teams do that all the time.

  80. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Berger – regarding the Saint game, I’ll say this: I’m still going to therapy over the roller coaster. I couldn’t handle the emotional highs and lows so I did my best Richard Pryor impersonation and ran out into the streets of Humboldt naked, wearing only my bathrobe and lit myself on fire. Fortunately, before any scarring occurred, the police got me, and the courts only required therapy. So here I am.
    My therapist has said two things to me… and here they are – number one. “Just remember Stinkle, Gregg Williams was fired the very next day for single covering Vernon Davis in the fourth quarter. Perry Fewell made no such mistake.” And my therapist also said, “Just remember Stinkle, before the game you also blogged that knocking out the running back was a big part of what the 49ers do (and you cited examples), and when Whitner knocked out Thomas, that made Brees throw over 60 times in that game and nobody can win a playoff game throwing that much – which is why they drafted Mark Ingram to begin with.” So my therapist has my back, and he’s wise….

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We also have to think about locking up Bowman.
    Baalke and Paraag have all those Contracts on the ledger and have shown pretty good instincts on who gets extended and who is allowed to move on.
    David Baas for instance. NYG overpaid but got the Ring.
    I’d like to see us score big on Nicks and a WR. Nicks is a SF guy, his ex-linemate Goodwin is here now.
    Think he’d be interested in coming home, playing for a young Team on the rise?
    We’ll see how it plays out.

  82. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – the 49ers don’t need Nicks. Their line is fine. They need to re-sing Snyder, and they need offensive skill position players. Period.

  83. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Albert, Gregg Williams’ Deal was up and he was chomping at the bit to get reunited with Fisher in StL.
    Might be good for us in the future too. I like Fangio in the Division.
    We have to get this Offense some firepower.
    I expect Josh to return, a FA WR and at least 2 WRs to be Drafted.
    I could also see us going with Coby Fleener at the bottom of Rd 1 too.
    All sorts of options to come.

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think Nicks is a bonafide stud.
    His cost could be prohibitive of course.
    See how they play the FA cards.
    Would you consider a WR like Stevie Johnson?
    Good numbers, matched up well against Revis in the AFC East too.
    Problem is, he’s an immature idiot too often.
    He could be a great steal if you’re willing to take the risk on him growing up.
    I like Reggie Wayne or Garcon from Indy. Bowe would be on that list too.

  85. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Nobody goes from the Saints to the Rams willingly. Nobody.

  86. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    But Nicks is a perfect example to illustrate my point about Teams losing the Cap battle.
    Pay Brees and Nicks in the same year?
    Who gets screwed if they can’t restructure enough guys to keep their Franchise QB protected?
    We finally have a legit Coaching Staff and now we can concentrate on making smart personnel decisions to keep the train on the rails.

  87. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Why pay more for a guard if Snyder was fine all year?

  88. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Williams and Fisher were together in TN.
    It’s a Coaching Fraternity.
    Parcells took his guys whenever he moved around. Many Coaches do it.
    It happens all the time.

  89. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Snyder is better than Chilo.
    Nicks is better than Snyder.
    Comes down to Cap-O-Nomics.
    Nicks will likely cost more certainly but, is he worth it?

  90. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Williams was fired and Nicks isn’t necessary. Wide receiver is necessary. Passing game is necessary.

  91. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    WR is a given.
    We’ll be paying plenty of attention to that position in FA and the Draft.

  92. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    not enough room for an upgrade at O line.

  93. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chilo’s departure will put some cash back in the kitty.
    Got Kilgore and Person too.
    Nicks is a wish, dudes’ an animal.

  94. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We could see a shot at OG Cordy Glenn at the end of Rd 1 too.
    Be a whole lot cheaper than Nicks.
    Glenn is a beast too.

  95. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Seriously, your idea with Carl Nicks and the offensive line is insane. If the line was fine in 2011, why would you want to both pay more and potentially upset the chemistry that is just now starting to settle? The offensive line is the dead last area you focus on. Dead last. You re-sign Snyder and let them all work together to create continuity. The line has 3 first rounders on it and a great free agent acquisition in Goodwin. The 49ers can’t afford to spend any more money on the offensive line when the passing game is terrible, the skill position players on offense are lacking, the secondary is still weak and the 49ers have so many free agents. Even if Snyder isn’t re-signed, Kilgore could still do the job. Chilo’s gone. That’s it. Nicks would be a terrible move.

  96. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Checkout these numbers.
    Matt Moore, 2011. 16 TDs, 9 INTs, 2500 yards passing, qb rating of 87.1, with 192 yards passing per game. Remind you of anyone?
    Alex Smith made 5 million in 2011. Matt Moore, at the beginning of the 2011 season signed a two year deal for 5 million. 2.5 per year. That means Smith’s fair market value (if comparables mean anything to you) is actually less than the offer he signed at the beginning of the 2011 season. It means Smith was overpaid. Why’d the 49ers pay Smith 4 million with incentives that reached 5? Because it was a one year deal that offered Smith little protection against injury and the 49ers were on the heals of a coaching change and needed someone familiar with the team, so they gave Smith MORE money coach up the team and provide continuity. The problem is, now fans take that base money in 2011 and think, “Well, Alex improved upon that in 2012 so it stands to reason he should make more money.” But it’s flawed thinking because in 2011 Alex Smith actually was paid more than he was worth because of the situation. If you compare Smith to Moore, Smith had everything around him, and Moore had nothing.
    In comparison to Matt Moore’s numbers, Alex Smith numbers are as follows – 17-5 (td to ints), 3200 yards passing, 197 yards per game and a passer rating of 90.7. That’s almost the same as Smith. But the kicker is that Matt Moore didn’t have Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman. Matt Moore had Tony, and Tony was bounced mid-season. A fired coach is hardly the asset Jim Harbaugh is. Alex Smith’s 2012 salary should actually be less than his 2011 salary. Or at least it should be. If the 49ers offer Smith a contract at all, it should be for one year at 3.5 million. Let him try to get more else where. This is why I say the 49ers should let Smith test the open market. If Harbaugh does anything less, Harbaugh’s a fool. Remember – Jim Harbaugh has never won a championship in college or the pros.

  97. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Man God help us all. The flavor of the day is now Matt Moore.
    It just seems like the agenda of the Hate Club is anybody but Alex Smith.
    Berger you see how the trolls brushed the facts aside when it was revealed that Manning was 2-14
    on third downs after being hot in the first half (scoring a whopping 10 pts which are the 10 pts that Kyle Williams gave away)
    The Giants punted 12 times despite running up and down the field.
    Notice the BS stops when the facts are revealed. In no shape,way or form is Eli Manning a top 3 QB in this league. I’d take Rodgers, Brady and Brees over
    Manning and would think long and hard about Rivers and Stafford
    as being better QBs.
    It is a well known fact that the Mannings Peyton and Eli are pocket passers like Marino and Fouts. The imbecile claims Eli Manning is a mobile QB which is reflected in his career rushing average of 1 yd per carry.

    Just a running river of BS from
    the moron idiot troll Spitty.

  98. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Bill Walsh never won a championship in college or the pros – until he won 3.

  99. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    PFT and the Mercury News is reporting the Santa Clara Stadium
    will now open a year ahead of schedule in 2014. Only 2 more years at the Stick.

    Not certain what the plan is for Candelstick after the Niners leave. Lennar is supposedly developing Hunters Point which doesn’t involve the Stick. Great memories at the Stick, no question but time to move on and that makes the Oakland Coliseum as the oldest dump statdium in the NFL.

  100. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh did win his league championship twice with QB Josh Johnson so to say he never won is another falsehood.

  101. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    It’s kind of sad that the Smith haters can’t provide a more formidable argument and are reduced to silly chants, growling nastiness, vagueries like “pocket presence”, grasping at straws by treating their own assurances of the future as though they are some kind of factual data, always distorting Smith’s history, etc. Who needs cartoon shows when we have these guys around with their side-splitting material?

  102. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Your comments on Matt Moore show
    what a simpleton mind you have regarding football. matt Moore is a journeyman QB like Gradkowski, Shaun Hill and Jon Kitna.
    You actually think all QBs are generic and that an offensive guru can make them great? Ask Mike Shanahan how that’s working out for him with turning Grossman or Hall into Elway? Did McDaniels
    convert any of his QBsCutler, Orton or Cassell into a Tom Brady? Did Martz convert Alex Smith or Shaun Hill into Kurt Warner?
    Sorry but it’s the combination of the coach and the player and how they mesh. You think it’s plug and play and everything is automatic?
    Football is too complicated for a simple minded guy like yourself.
    Stick to fishing although those worms are proving to be a huge challenge constantly outsmarting you.

  103. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Can’t wait for the cliff-hanger conclusion to Berger vs his wife.

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Berger needs to attribute it SILENTLY to PMS and move on.
    There is no winning these skirmishes with the wife so just let her say whatever on the little and trivial things.
    Berger’s in luck because he can make it up to her on Valentine’s Day.
    In other words don’t sweat the small mundane everyday stuff.
    My wife likes to complain especially when I buy things on sale.

  105. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    My wife is still sleeping. There are some things that wives don’t need to hear. I wasn’t very smart last night, but it was exciting!

  106. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    It was better than listening to Albert try to puff himself up. But most anything is better than that.

  107. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Drinking and smart are not usually good partners! I think it was funny even though I wish I hadn’t said it. Should I tell her, you can’t handle the truth! LOL! I better not, I still have a chance to get out of this alive.

  108. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Bad form to tell your wife you wanted to sleep with anybody but her especially after the object of your desire just croaked.
    Sounds like you’ll work it out.

    Raiduhs just signed Johnny Lynn to be their DB coach. Lot of ex Niner coaches on that staff.

  109. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    If the argument was silly, just ignoring that it ever happened
    is the best course. She might be on the same page and in hindsight
    think she overreacted and appreciate the out. Remember in the immortal words of Erich Segal
    or is it Seagull? “Love means never having to say you’re sorry”
    Hey it’s almost Valentines Day.

  110. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Back in the 80’s Whitney was hot! When I met my wife in ’95, she was much hotter than Whitney. I wasn’t desiring Whitney in’95. I’m not sure females think along these lines?

  111. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If you see my picture on a milk carton you’ll know it didn’t go well.

  112. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I was at the doctor’s office last week. She was giving me the “once over” and listening to my body with her stethoscope. You know what she heard when she put it on my tummy while performing that auscultatory task?
    “What in the wide, wide world of sports is a going on here?”

  113. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I was going to use the video clip for my answer, but I think that we here on this site have been over using that technique.
    “Piss on you. I’m working for Mel Brooks.”

  114. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It seems that Spitty wants to pay Alex Smith less than they paid him last year. Spitty says let’s offer him a 1 year contract at $4 mil/yr even though he was paid $5 mil last year.
    Spitty is worried with the extra 3 or 4 million that Alex Smith will earn, Alex personally will go to Redding and buy MPR from Robbie M. and then shitcan Spitty. He’ll keep Mark,Jennifer,Gary, Don and Greg but Spitty will be shown the door.
    Payback’s a bitch.

  115. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    There you go again talking about
    sphygmomanometry referencing auscultatory during the systolic.
    Now I’m acting like another poster practicing intimidation through obfuscation

  116. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Actually, not that it matters much, but Smith made 6.5 mil last year. An extra 1.5 mil through playoff earned incentives.

  117. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I’d say he earned $1.49 mil of that in the Saints game.

  118. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I’m making pork chops tonight. No applesauce. I’m not too keen on the applesauce. If I were a rich man (Tevye) I’d have my maid make them for me. Maybe I should have been an architect like Mike Brady and George Costanza wanted to be so I could afford one.

  119. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Sometimes I crack myself up. Tiger just left a putt 4 ft. short and I shouted out, “Hit the ball Alice!” and then I looked back up at my screen. I really should charge for this shit. 馃榾

  120. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    You guys wanna hear something funny? Actually it’s kind of sad. The more I analyze and reflect upon my life, the more it mimics that of George Costanza’s. Take eight inches off me and I’m George. And I’m not talking about whacking off my willy.

  121. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting dynamic naming Gideon Yu President of the team. Most here and everyone following the 49ers assumed Paraag Marathe would be responsible for any 49er financial issues. The Yorks have just put someone over Paraag at crunch time whom he’ll have to report to. The new guy has a most impressive resume. Let’s see if Marathe’s profile and role is diminished with the change.

  122. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck admitted to me the other day that I was funny. I don’t know if I should take that as a compliment or use it as the impetus and inspiration to come up with some new material.

  123. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You want funny? I borrowed one of V’s latest posts from SD Gate to illustrate it is possible to push that looney envelope even further.

    “Joseph Montana. . .Third round draft pick, 1979 . . .Master of come-from-behind victories. . .Led 49ers to four Super Bowl wins. . . Named Super Bowl MVP three times. . . Orchestrated 92-yard winning drive in closing seconds, Super Bowl XXIII. . .All-NFL three times, All-NFC five times. . .Selected to eight Pro Bowls. . .Career statistics: 3,409 completions, 40,551 yards, 273 TDs, 92.3 passer rating. . . Born June 11, 1956, in New Eagle, Pennsylvania.

    Signed a $10 million contract over three years with the KC Chiefs.

    Alex Smith is waiting for what many believe will be a three-year deal in the $8 million to $11 million per range.

    Talk about an unfair, upside down, world and Clowns like Harbaugh responsible for rewarding failure, something unheard of during the Eddie, Walsh years!

    Very sad knowing Montana could’ve sat on his rear and not produce squat yet some so-called, Die Hard 49er fans would still defend him and believe in a good outcome.”

    So we have V still stuck in 1989
    bemoaning Joe’s small contract compared to what Alex Smith is signing for. Wait until V goes out to buy gas and find out it’s no longer $1.29 a gallon. Lunacy has no bounds.

  124. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Should read SF Gate not SD Gate.

    Look at V still worried about Joe Montana. Isn’t Joe’s Napa Ranch up for sale for $49 mil?
    Yeah Joe’s a pauper, throw him some scraps.

  125. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I like cake. I like beer. But I don’t want to overpay for either.
    If you Alex Smith lovin’ fools are dyin’ to pay Smith 8 million per year, when Matt Moore is making 2.5, you’re bigger idiots than I thought.

  126. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry but another HOF rant from V
    from SF Gate (ties in with Spitty’s sentiments)

    “There’s allot of comparisons one could use to compare Harbaugh choosing to go with Alex Smith and flushing two the three good years down the toilet.

    It’s like President Lincoln, putting his wife Mary in charge of the entire Union Army.

    It’s like Black Sabbath or ACDC unplugged.

    It’s like Dirty Harry staring Justin Bieber.

    It’s like Steve McQueen in Bullitt driving a Yugo, Pacer, or Gremlin.

    It’s like Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper in Easy Rider riding mopeds across the country.

    It’s like Patton in charge of only the French Army.

    It’s like Boy George, Flock Of Seagulls, Village People, Ricky Martin, as the opening acts at Woodstock.

    It’s like Tiny Tim on the same stage with Hendrix.

    It’s like the first song on side A, of Led Zeppelin 1 being “Wake me up, before you go girl”

    It’s like Walsh taking the 49ers1984 team into the season with Chris Weinke at QB instead of Montana.

    Shall I go on?”

    So V get’s a bunch of negative replies and rants this
    “Shouldn’t so-called fans (Sheep’s) like all of you who can’t uphold tradition and keep the standards once set here alive go find an expansion team to root for with no past?”

    Speaks for itself

  127. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I’m a funny guy. Not Henry Hill “funny” from “Goodfellas,” but funny nonetheless. Did I ever tell you guys about the time I met Joe Pesci? No? There’s a valid reason for that — I haven’t.

  128. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith, based on Matt Moore’s numbers, is worth 3.5 million per year.

  129. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, I think you and I came around to the “Insider” about the same time. Not sure if you could call us Founding Fathers, but we were both there early on in the proceedings.
    I used to LOVE reading the comments and the back and forth from Chuck and V. I used to put down Tom Clancy to read their shit. They would always use a thread from a week or two back to espouse their “knowledge” and exchange verbal jabs.
    I used to sit ring side and just watch. I did ’em a favor. They wanted no part of my left hook.

  130. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah… those ’round and ’rounds aren’t nearly as funny anymore. It’s more tired than Skeebers’ act.

  131. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Albert! No bet, just a friendly guess. But let’s see who can come closer to the soon to be Alex “I’d rather throw it into the ground than try and throw a receiver open” Smith’s new contract.
    I want you to know that I’m punching myself in the goddamn throat as I type this…3 yrs/$27M. And there’s an incentive clause that will bump it up to 30 if he remains the starter for the entirety of those years.
    I took care of that. I just put in a call to Lee Harvey’s grandson.

  132. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Spit! Did I ever tell ya about the time I saw Bill Cosby do his act and he brought me up on stage to sit next to him while he did his routine at Harrah’s Reno?
    I was only 15. He must have saw sumthin’ in me. What? I have no idea. To be 15 again. These past 30 yrs have taken their toll.

  133. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I just did the math. Bill was 44 at the time. Here I sit at 45. I am depressed.

  134. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I hate to steal material from another comedian or actor. Or in this particular case, my head coach. But this one just popped into my mind…
    Whose wasted their talents, education and life more than Dennis?

  135. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    You think Jimbo might let me be the waterboy with that attitude? Maybe if I told him that we all shouldn’t smoke crack…

  136. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry, I just did a spell check. That should have read “Who’s” from my earlier comment.
    You try writing this shit and coming up with new material after you’ve had 16 screwdrivers. It’s not as easy as it looks.

  137. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve had 6, and this will be my 7th comment in a row uninterrupted. This is usually the time I call Berger to ask him to put in a “mercy comment” to break up things.
    I keep getting a busy signal. This ain’t my day.

  138. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Colin Kaepernick is making a lot of noise about how he’ll be given every chance to compete for the starting job next year. If Kaep’s sincere it’s because Harbaugh was sincere. If Harbaugh’s sincere, there’s no way Smith gets a three year deal. I say one year deal for 4 million dollars. A pay decrease, not a pay raise.
    In addition, it’s not like Baalke and Harbaugh don’t know Matt Moore’s numbers and productivity last year. It’s not like Harbaugh and Baalke are blind to comparables like everyone else on this blog.
    MM just panders to the herd.

  139. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    And I know you’re all probably waiting with baited breath to know if I’ve ever met Adam Sandler. Yes. I have. But it’s not worth mentioning. I’ll let you in on a little secret though: Adam celebrates Hanukkah.

  140. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Spit, I can’t, nor do I want to think about and discuss football at the moment. I’m still not over our NFC Championship loss. I don’t take losing that well.
    I’m sure you, and the rest here and on Chuck’s blog have noticed that my recent comments have not been about football and about the Niners in particular. Even more than usual.
    I’ve been trying to use my “humor” and jokes even more than the standard issue amount since that loss. Can you say, “Defense Mechanism?”

  141. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I think there’s a good chance Alex Smith isn’t even on the team next year. If we learned anything about Harbaugh early on this year it’s that Harbaugh pays attention to the blogs and to media. His first comment as a Niner was a sarcastic one – “If we learned anything it’s that if it’s on the internet, it must be true.”
    Harbaugh knows that after the NFC Championship game the Alex Smith bubble burst that Harbaugh worked so hard to inflate. But as a former player, Harbaugh knows there’s an eb and flow to these things. And Alex Smith is a 49er until he’s not a 49er.
    So when the Alex Smith bubble burst and people were once again calling for his head – writing about safe play and missed opportu nities, 1-14, etc., Harbaugh had Smith accept his coach of the year award. Harbaugh had Smith caddy for him. Harbaugh released a statement that Smith was their guy. But the negotiations haven’t even started, so who knows what can happen?
    It wouldn’t surprise me one bit to learn that Harbaugh and Smith sat down in a room somewhere mid-season and created the story that Harbaugh wanted to try and sign Smith mid-season to an extention but that Smith was focused on football and in the now. Why would Smith go along with it? To shift heat from Smith to Harbaugh, or completely take the pressure off Smith and just let him focus on football. It’s a perception thing, and Harbaugh’s a master at it.
    We don’t know how the 49ers really feel about Alex Smith until the rubber meets the road, but I’ll tell you one thing…. there’s a lot of smoke screens bein’ thrown up by Harbaugh regarding Alex Smith. If the 49ers don’t re-sign Smith at all, or they give him a one year deal for 4 million, Harbaugh was masterful. If they re-sign Smith for 3 years, Harbaugh’s sunk.

  142. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear, are you correcting my English? I don’t have a problem with that. But if and when you start to poke holes in my French and Latin, we’re gonna have a problem.

  143. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Here are some more of your previous posts predicting what would happen in 2011. It’s embarassing how inaccurate your were about everything.

    “The Niners schedule isn’t forgiving either. The first two games are against the Seahawks and Cowboys. Pete Carroll and Jason Garrett will have a leg-up on Harbaugh because they already know their players and they don’t have to implement new schemes. If the labor negotiations were settled today, Harbaugh would have two months to pull everything together. The clock is ticking. The Niners first win may come in Cinci, but does anyone like how the Niners have played on the East coast the last several years? The Eagles and Bucs are flat-out losses, leaving the Niners to start 1-4 or 0-5 …. again.

    The real issue isn’t whether the Niners do well this year. They won’t. The real issue will be how a rebuilding team in disguise affects the new stadium deal in Santa Clara, and more importantly how Jed York reacts to it. If Jed York doesn’t get a stadium built in Santa Clara, his political clout and integrity as an owner (already on thin ice) will be completely shot. With investors needing to see wins and a competent Jed York run ship, how will Jed react when Harbaugh’s Niners don’t reach .500? The Bay Area media already does Jim Harbaugh no favors at all by predicting a 9-7 year with a division crown to help Jed sell his stadium. It could be painful to watch. This team has more holes than swiss cheese and nobody in the front office can draft. To make matters worse, we don’t know what kind of further dismay free agency will cast upon the Niners. We know Jed York will once again be selling Jim Harbaugh, like Singletary before him. But regardless how talented Jim Harbaugh is, he can’t do it all alone. And that’s what he is right now ….. all alone.”

    Maybe it’s time for you to stop making predictions cuz all you do is shit all over yourself.

  144. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:


  145. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Still LMAO. Whew! Get me hankie!

  146. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers, my joke from 9:20 this morning wasn’t that funny.

  147. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t know, Del. You may lose your funny man crown if Albert keeps throwing out these kind of howlers. Heck, Berger may lose his title as the Tornado of Bullshit king.

  148. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    More predictionsfrom the guy who proclaims he’s never wrong because we all can use a big laugh. This is very humilatingbut these are his words unedited.

    “If Spitblood owned the 49ers, here’s what I’d do RIGHT NOW.

    First off, I’d hire Josh McDaniels to be the Niners’ offensive coordinator. I’d blatantly usurp Mike Singletary’s contract, dumping Mike Johnson, and if Singletary had a problem with it, we’d figure it out after the season was over after I fired Mike for being a bigger mistake than Mike Nolan and Dennis Erickson combined. At the end of the season I’d fire Mike’s entire coaching staff as well, with the exception of Mike Solari. That would leave Mike Solari and Josh McDaniels on the staff for 2011.

    Then I’d work a trade with the Washington Redskins for Donovan McNabb. I’d offer Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, David Baas or Chilo Rachal. The Redskins can’t be expecting to get much more than a 3rd round pick for McNabb, so anyone of those players could be enticing to the Redskins; however, Shannahan loves to find late round running back gold so he probably wouldn’t be interested in Frank Gore. The Redskins also have Chris Cooley, but Vernon Davis might still be interesting to Shannahan. Either way, I’d work a deal out with the Redskins to acquire McNabb, and then I’d dump Alex Smith and David Carr.”

    Didn’t know Spitty thought so highly of Josh McDaniels who singlehandedly destroyed a ptent Bronco offense and went all in with Tim Tebow. He also wanted to trade Gore and Vernon Davis for Donovan McNabb. So with Spitty in charge we’d have a washed up McNabb as QB with nobody to run the ball and nobody to catch the ball and a total asshole as OC.

  149. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Albert, just because we have a glaring need for WR help doesn’t mean you jump on the first WR on the Draft Board in April.
    All I propose about Nicks is that he’s a proven beast at RG and he’s a local guy who might enjoy being here with Goodwin. He’s arguably better than Snyder or anyone else currently on the roster.
    I’m still stirring the Bio’s and reading the tea leaves in an effort to ‘guess’ what Baalke might have up his sleeve.
    If you were Alex and just came within a wink of the SB, would you accept another 1yr deal?
    He’s keeping things on the rails for Kaep, he’s worth ‘Fair Money’ until he’s not the starter anymore.
    We’ll see how it plays out.
    Now that we’re Drafting at 30, I think we’ll be after BPA regardless of posititon.
    Could be OL/DL or anywhere else.
    Let’s say we lose Carlos, maybe we seek CB Carr from KC or just look to the Draft. Got to have a plan and backup plans to your backup plans.
    Any number of things could happen.

  150. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And, just for comparison sake, Cordy Glenn the OG from UGA is almost identical in size and weight to Nicks.
    He could be had as a Draft pick for a whole lot less and, he’s obviously younger.
    Have to think about improving weaknesses while balancing age and Cap money. Very delicate balance.
    I also think the Offense gets better by keeping as many of the same guys in the system from this years’ team as you can next year.

  151. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – Alex wouldn’t have a choice but to accept whatever Harbaugh gave him. Who else is going to hire Alex Smith? Read those Tea Leaves. This is why I’ve been saying the 49ers should let Alex Smith test the open market. Look around the league, who is going to pay Alex Smith 5 million a year? Name one team. Honestly. Try to name one. If all the 49ers offer Smith is one year for 4 million, what’s Smith going to do about it? Stay home?
    Regarding the WR position – the 49ers absolutely should use their first and even their second round picks on WR. This off season is about two things only – re-signing our own and upgrading the passing game through the draft (not free agency).
    Regarding Nicks – sure, he’s an upgrade. He’s definitely better than Snyder and Iupati. No question. But it’s an issue of priorities.
    The only other position I could see the 49ers using a first round draft choice on is CB because Rogers may be on his way out, but like you said, Rogers wants to stay and could see a Charles Woodson-type late career. In addition, the 49ers have depth behind Rogers with Culliver (who I no longer think should switch to safety), Brock and maybe Holcomb. So for me, the first round pick (and the second) are for WR. The defense is so much better than the offense right now (Akers and Lee are special teamers… Lol), that it’s hard to imagine the first couple of picks going toward the defense.

  152. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Yep listen to Spitty cuz he knows best. If it were up to him we’d have Josh McDaniels coaching Mcnabb having foolishly trading
    Vernon Davis and Frank Gore for him.
    Just picture 2011 with McNabb as our QB and no Gore or Vernon Davis. I don’t need to tell you what Mcnabb accomplished in 2011 and where he is now.
    Yet Spitty playing GM and acts like he has a clue.

  153. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Albert, Alex has no real leverage anywhere else.
    This is the reason I use the term ‘Fair Contract’. Something Cap friendly, likely 3 or 4yrs is my guess.
    I agree about a CB, whether Carlos stays or goes, we likely lose Shawntae and Reggie so yes, we will need additions to the Secondary.
    I also wonder whether we keep Ahmad Brooks and who might be a nice Draft piece at LB too.
    I’m torn between TE Fleener and possibly Sanu at 30.
    Sanu is a solid kid, just not sure if he’s a difference maker. I’ll leave that to the Pros to call.
    Alshon Jeffrey is unproven and somewhat hard to slot too but, huge target.
    Another kid who has size and great speed (but no great amount of experience), is Streeter from Miami.
    We’ll get immediate impact from the WR position via FA I think, then add a Draft pick or two along the way.
    I look at Pick 30 as a ‘Production’ slot.
    Can we get a starter/situational contributor there?
    Fleener coming from Stanford would walk right into the mix I think.
    Or, we could hope for a stud DT like Cox or Poe to be there too.
    New territory for us Drafting this late. Several CBs could factor into that slot too.
    Hard to guess what might be coming until they make it happen.
    But, it’s great to do the research and listen to the experts, about who has what, and where they might be available in April.

  154. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think a surprise pick is going to be a RB.
    Trying to figure where we might address that.
    Like Polk and Doug Martin,that might mean Rd 2.
    Could be too early for me.

  155. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s the flaw in your thinking. “Fair” is fair market value. “Fair” is not a random number pulled out of the sky, or long term deal when you just used a second round pick on Colin Kaepernick. Clearly the 49ers want to work Kaep in quicker than two or three years from now.
    I say one year deal for 4 million… take it or leave it.

  156. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We shall see Albert.
    Don’t be surprised if he gets more, that’s all I’m saying.

  157. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Riddle me this Albert…..
    Janoris Jenkins is on the Board at 30.
    Top 15 talent with baggage.
    Does he trump another area of need?

  158. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You are a patient man I’ll give you that.
    Reasoning with someone who is blinded by hate is no easy task.
    Maybe if that person who’s hating so much would stop and think why
    aren’t there any offers from other teams to free agents?
    All free agents belong to their teams unless they are waived and
    will be part of that team until the NFL year ends in March.
    So essentially asking where are the offers to Alex Smith is moronic since it would be tampering.

  159. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Did you say read the tea leaves?
    Did Ms Cleo put you on hold?

  160. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m also going to go on record for a Sleeper WR pick –
    Danny Coale – Va Tech/(Josh Morgan U.)
    Like Josh Morgan, he’ll be a late Rd guy that comes to play.
    He played behind Boykin but still put up some impressive numbers.
    Fast guy too.
    He’s a Combine invitee, see what you think.

  161. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit it’s all about opinion.
    Keeps us involved while we wait to see what happens.
    It’s all good.
    At least here I can talk 9ers.
    Over here on this end of the map I have to deal with the NY and Philly variety.
    A lot less patience is displayed in these parts.

  162. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, my feeling is Alex won’t even hit the Market.
    Even if he’s kept on the back burner until they work on Carlos and Dashon, he likely won’t see any serious offers anyway.
    Here, he stands to improve and keep a leg up on the starters’ job.
    Elsewhere, he’s a backup.
    Albert and I can agree to disagree on what the offer will be but, in the end, we are purely spectators in the process.

  163. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As I pointed out earlier, the OG from UGA Cordy Glenn is a ‘Beast’ too.
    Not sure we’d spend a 1st on him with so many other needs but, he’s a bonafide starter.

  164. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Leverage and Market:
    The progression of Harbaugh and Baalke signing their own free agents is very, very important in a month.
    First off, you have to judge leverage and markets before hand. This is what Baalke and Harbaugh should be doing right now – judging the market or demand and leverage surrounding Ginn, Snyder, Goldson, Rogers, Smith and Brooks – then setting up a signing strategy or progression.
    First the leverage – Smith has no leverage. The NFL knows Alex Smith is a product of Jim Harbaugh. Alex Smith also knows his best opportunity for money and playing time is in SF. Goldson has a ton of leverage because he played amazing football in the playoffs (where great players showcase their wares), and the 49ers have nobody behind Goldson. Snyder’s not a guy to play the leverage game (so he’s the guy you should sign first at a discount to set a tone). He’ll be just happy to start. You go out and drop 8 million a year on Goldson first, everyone will want more. You go out and sign Snyder to a bargain deal because he’s pumped about Harbaugh, it sets the tone.
    Ted Ginn has leverage for the same reason Goldson does. First off, there’s nobody behind Ginn to return kicks. Kyle Williams proved that. In addition, without Ginn clearing out the safeties in the NFC Championship game, Smith really struggled.
    There aren’t many returners like Peterson, Cribbs and Hestor in the league. Their value is underrated. Ginn should receive a contract of about 3 million per year for four years, with a third to a half of the 12 guaranteed. The Browns pay Cribbs 6 million per year, and Cribbs is only slightly better than Ginn. Who was Cribbs’ special teams coach when Cribbs was busting long returns? Brad Seeley. How many did Cribbs break this year? If the 49ers can get Ginn for 3 million per year, they’re well spent and it’s a good investment.
    Brooks and Rogers are the two hardest to judge regarding the market. Brooks has more leverage than Rogers because the 49ers don’t have many starting OLBs. Rogers is getting older, and despite some early season heroics, Rogers did start to display some poor hands later in the year. I don’t think Rogers wore down, but he was smokin’ hot for a few months at the beginning of the season.
    If it’s me, I sign Snyder first, then Ginn, then Goldson. From there I sign Brooks (who’s the hardest to figure out, thus making him the hardest to re-sign) and let Rogers and Smith twist in the wind the way the 49ers did last year with Goldson. The more they twist, the better the deal. If Rogers and Smith bounce, their replacements can take the team just as far. It’s not checkers, it’s chess.

  165. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Good strategy. Remember Snyder and Brooks were offered extensions and passed.
    Once the FA moves are answered we likely have leverage toward other FAs and a feeling about the Draft board.
    Peterson was a Rookie K/PR which means they can be had in the Draft again if Ginn’s asking price is too high.
    I’m anxious to see what Goldson and Rogers are looking for.
    I have no doubts that Baalke will have this all figured out.
    No concerns about Alex. He’s assumed to be done already. He just hasn’t signed anything yet.

  166. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    ‘Wanting to be back’ is also an Agents’ way of saying ‘We weren’t offered enough to stay’ when they don’t get the deal done too.
    It’s all posturing.

  167. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m with you about pocket presence.
    I’m giving the benefit of the pending extension to Harbaugh, simply to get Alex to that next step.
    Won’t know until we give it another Season in the System, hopefully with an improved supporting cast.
    I was somewhat curious why we didn’t play more of a Screen game with NY.
    Alex has alot of work to do with those deep middle routes too.
    He missed a couple of makeable throws to be sure.
    If Andrew Luck benefited from Harbaughs’ tutelage, I’m hopeful it can improve Alex’s game too.
    Time will tell.

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2021 Schedules
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