Lunch Lips

Trent Baalke hit the lotto two years in a row with his third round picks — NaVorro Bowman and Chris Culliver. Neither pick drew oohs and aahs at the time. More like who’s and wha’s.

Bowman stepped in for Takeo Spikes last year and played at an all pro level the entire year. Culliver zoomed up the depth chart in his rookie year and looks primed to take over for Carlos Rogers, should Rogers leave via free agency.

That’s good drafting. The previous two third round picks, by Scot McCloughan, were Glen Coffee and Reggie Smith. That’s bad drafting.

Culliver was a tweener who was good at both tweens, and Smith was a tweener who was good at no tweens. Coffee had no heart for the game, and that’s bad research into a guy’s character. Or failure to recognize a liar when you meet one.

But McCloughan had an excuse for his less than stellar last two drafts. His head was in the bottle and his marriage was on the rocks. That’s a fine combo for a bloggin man dude or a poet, but not that great for keen player evaluations.

By the time many of you begin to gloss over today’s post, Peyton Manning will already be a free agent. He and Jim Irsay will shed a few tears over each other at noon EST today. Then the great shroud of mystery surrounding Manning’s right arm will finally be lifted. NFL paparozzi will follow his every move, feeding a hungry offseason football nation a steady diet of clues about which team Manning will decide to join next.

Many 49er fans would love to see Manning come here, but a more realistic curiosity would be whether he joins the Arizona Cardinals. The Cards have made no secret of their lustful intentions, which can’t be making Kevin Kolb all that happy. If Manning comes, Kolb goes. That’s pretty much the deal with the devil that any team will have to make if they sign Manning.

But it’s hard to imagine Manning leaving the AFC for an NFC team. Starting over is hard enough, but Manning has 14 years of AFC experience versus zero years of NFC time, so staying in the same conference would definitely make him more comfortable and knowledgeable going forward. Everybody talks about Miami as a destination, but there’s another team in Florida, too. One that’s in the same familiar division, with a great running game, and a young QB who would be thrilled (and maybe relieved) to sit behind Manning for a couple of years.

49er fans will have to make do for another week until free agency kicks in league wide. It would be surprising if we don’t see several current players re-signed in this period. Alex Smith and Carlos Rogers are the two biggest names in this group, but it would be nice to see Ted Ginn, Adam Snyder, and Josh Morgan re-up, too.

We’re getting close to the official beginning of the 2012 league season, though. One more week. How’s the wife? How’re the kids? How’s the boss? How’s your mistress? Hey, just kidding. You looked a little tense there, though. Anything I should know?

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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Every team getting into the Manning Sweepstakes is declaring themselves the favorites. Natl Football Post has a story that the Seahags will open up their wallets and sign both Manning and Reggie Wayne.
    Manning’s QB rating is 7 points higher in a dome and the only dome team chasing him is Ariz

  2. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Hard to see a life long eastern guy moving to the desert or the cold and rainy northwest. But, pass the ketchup.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Going all in on Manning you risk setting back your franchise 5 years. Look at the Colts, from penthouse to the outhouse beacuse you lost your QB. From first place in the division to worst team in football. The reason? Although Manning is a brilliant HOF bound QB he’s also very selfish. He is the team and he does not mentor his backups. They are there to assist him in breaking down film. Manning though he was invincible and created an offense that only he could run and operate efficiently.
    Some QBs are labelled “system QBs”.
    Manning was the opposite which meant No Manning, No Offense as evidence by the debacle Indy went through last year. First indication is when they talked Kerry Collins out of retirement
    rather then go with Paonter.
    All this is documented in the article that follows.
    Your team will win games with Manning as your QB. Whether he can take you all the way and win a Super Bowl is doubtful as he’s done it only once in 14 years.

  4. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- I’ve had my Bonamassa tickets for a couple of months now. I’m sitting 4th row. Repo Ed and his girlfriend are going with my wife and I. The Twisted Sisters are trying to get tickets too. Hotel rooms are real expensive that night. I wonder if that has anything to do with Joe? I live in Reno but I’m going to want to party downtown afterward. I’m trying to find a deal on a room, which is usually easy to do. Not on Bonamassa night.

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I guess Stinkblood didn’t like my report that Alex has a deal on the table, as reported by Eric Branch. He had to make up a false Peter King report.

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Some posters have no dignity or self respect. Probably that’s why they seem to admire the Aints and how they do their business.
    Why anybody constantly lies and fabricates facts to further their viewpoint is puzzling.
    I suppose the humiliation of being caught lying is minimal when you have no dignity or self respect.

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Roland Lakes passed away yesterday. He was a DT during the Kezar days playing next to Charlie Kruger and played for 10 yaers in the trenches for some mediocre teams. He made it to a playoff game in his last year as a Niner RIP Roland Lakes

  8. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Spitoon thinks nothings going to happen to the Aints, that this is
    all fabricated by the media.
    Why cuz Darren Sharper said so.
    Even though he was the guy bragging before a game against Fvare that x marked the spot and he was pointing to Favre’s knee.
    Let’s see if the Aints have a smooth year finishing in first place as you predicted.

  9. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll tell you one thing right now. Trent Baalke better be really careful. Peyton Manning in free agency is a shark that could take down Baalke’s ship. Baalke signs Smith to a 3 year, 8 million per year deal, only to see Manning get a similar deal with incentives else where, and that’s the kind of stuff that can get a GM fired.

  10. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Irsay didn’t get any compensation for releasing Manning, Albert, like you said (about 97 times) he would. You said we could trust you. My faith in you is crushed. How can I ever trust you again?

  11. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Uh, no. Here’s how it works, fistule. Neither Jed nor Baalke, or anyone else in the building is interested in Manning. Too many unanswered questions as of now. So, why would Jed fire Baalke for someone he’s not on board with either?

  12. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Gee, looks like Chuck has crushed faithitis, too.

  13. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yer getting worse at spreading FUD, pustule.

  14. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I can wind this blog up like no other….

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    How that blog called Spitblood Chronicles doing?
    There’s more action happening at the county morgue.
    Perhaps that is a shining example on how not to do things?

  16. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Oooh. Mighty proud of ya, skippy.
    So, you’re proud to be a dickhead?
    Between you and NoFear you’ve cornered the market on assholery.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Marshall Faulk just said one of Manning’s criteria is to stay in the AFC because the Manning family plan is not to get in each other’s way until they meet in the Super Bowl.
    Let’s see what Faulk knows as that is a interesting point that was raised here before.
    So all NFC teams are eliminated
    and Kevin Kolb and Tavaris Jackson feel like sloppy seconds.

  18. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I feel left out. How come I’m not included in the list of ass holes?

  19. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    11:44. Ouch. I cried a little for chuck.
    Berger – you and me are on the list, don’t worry.

  20. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You cried like a little girl, right, Stinkle? Ow ow ow. Noogies for you.
    Of course you wear the title proudly, Unabummer. It’s all you got. Well, that and the I-love-Joe_Montana-poor-Teflon-Mike screed.
    Since you are inept at talking football, you resort to your usual 5th grade antics. Wow, calling me a girl? Ouch. Better run, the recess monitor heard you. That’s called projecting, skippy. When exactly were you emasculated?
    Who do you like for the draft? Or free agency? How about the WRs available?
    I’m sorry, too much football? you say you’ve been on blogs for years, but you still don;t understand how they work and what their purpose is. THAT’S a laugh.
    If you haven’t noticed, I get along with most of the others here, regarldess of opinion.
    It’s self-aggrandizing blowhards where I draw the line.
    And don’t worry Bergs, you can be, in Dub’s words, a major league asshole yourself . . .

  21. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Come on NoFear. Try to talk football without the following phrases:

    Joe Montana
    Alex Smith sucks
    Mike Nolan is God
    Escaped goats
    Deluded clowns

  22. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Wonder what it’s like to have everybody in the universe talking about you, like Manning now does. The closest I ever came to that much attention is when everybody in church turned around and stared at me after an expected SBD fart came out barrapppppaawhapwhap instead.

  23. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I tell ya, the rich sound you get from a wood pew and a good fart is amazing.

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Actually if it’s a big church it’s all about the echo.

  25. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I wonder if Glen Coffee ever found God? I’m not so sure he even bothered to look. He was just sick and tired of Singletary’s shit. Can’t blame ’em. I would have made up something and left myself. Don’t think I could pull off the “I’m looking for God” trick. New bartender?

  26. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I think it’s more than that, Dennis. He’s out of the league. He’s a self-employed motivational speaker living in a van down by the river.

  27. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Farley was another comedy king who left this Earth way too early. He passed back ’97 when he was only 33. I can’t believe it’s been that long. Where has the time gone? I wonder how many jokes I’ve told in the past 14 years? If we just count the funny ones, I wouldn’t have to take my socks off. Very eerie and ironic that Farley’s hero and greatest influence, Belushi, died at the age of 33 as well.

  28. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Of course we’re all opinionated assholes. This is the internet.
    I’m reminded of the old Far Side cartoon: A bunch of wolves standing around, partly in sheep costumes, looking perplexed, and one says: “Wait… isn’t *anyone* here a real sheep?”

  29. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Wait a minute, Spitoon revealed last week that he enjoyed living
    by the river. Could it be????

  30. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    i just read a yahoo sports report listing us as the #2 best place for manning to end up ! it also says we are likely to make a strong run at vincent jackson !

    wow , both of these are exciting to me !

    anybody have it better than us ?!

    if you don’t call me soon i’m going to have to put you on my list of assholes

  31. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If P Manning elects to play for the Jets they might end up cutting Mark Sanchez or trading him. Wondering would Petey Carroll be interested in his ex QB
    although two of his other QBs opted to go elsewhere (Leinart and Palmer). Playing musical QBs every year just takes away from any offensive chemistry.

  32. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    unca chuck says
    I tell ya, the rich sound you get from a wood pew and a good fart is amazing.

    bullit Says:

    Actually if it’s a big church it’s all about the echo.

    Del Mar Dennis Says:

    I wonder if Glen Coffee ever found God? I’m not so sure he even bothered to look. He was just sick and tired of Singletary’s shit. Can’t blame ‘em. I would have made up something and left myself. Don’t think I could pull off the “I’m looking for God” trick. New bartender?

    omg do i really spend time reading this blog ?

    is it football season yet ?


  33. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    wow ! i just read the label on my butoni pasta !

    it says ‘cook before eating’ !

    thank god i read those directions first !

  34. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    If you don’t know pasta then you’ll have to stop calling yourself the Italian Stallion.

    Can anyone (without cheating) name the football player who this nickname belonged to?
    And don’t say Rocky Balboa

  35. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Did somebody say Echoes? This is much better than a fart!

  36. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Johnny Musso!

  37. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Winna winna chikin dinna
    Give Berger a Seegar!
    You are correct sir. Good knowledge. Saluto!!!

  38. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Johnny Musso was the Italian Stallion and he was a Heismann hopeful for Alabama. This had to be about 1972 or 1973? I did not look it up.

  39. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If Musso did not get hurt so much he would’ve had a good chance for the Heismann.

  40. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    rob- I’ll call you on Friday.

  41. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Heres my favorite photo of one of my alltime favorites from college. It was my privilege to witness his winning a Heisman.
    They actually made this into a poster and I still have it.

  42. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    This is one my two or three favorite Earl Cmpbell runs.

  43. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Most exciting running backs to watch run were

    Earl Campbell
    Barry Sanders
    Gale Sayers
    Bo Jackson
    Eric Metcalf
    Hugh McElhenney

  44. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    You have a good list, may I add on?
    Where’s Walter Payton and OJ Simpson? What about the Diesel Riggins and Jim Brown? I wouldn’t put Metcalf on the list, but I would put Roger Craig and Marshall Faulk on the list.

  45. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    No Terrence Flagler? Derek Lovell? Horeshit list if you ask me.

  46. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Who’s going to throw more TDs next year, Alex or Peyton?
    Bottle of winner’s choice at stake. 2-1 says you’ll be making more Alexcuses as you bubble wrap my cognac.

  47. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Seeing as Manning won’t play next year . . .

  48. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If a whore shits in the forest, Stinkle is there to gobble it up . . .

  49. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith is a FA. Where are all these teams beating down his door? Why isn’t his phone ringing off the hook with new offers?
    Maybe his phone number is listed as a 3rd down attempt: that number can’t be completed as dialed.

  50. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    FACT: the team that signs Manning, their odds to win the SB will be cut in half.
    FACT: if Alex Smith were to sign with another team, their odds to win the SB would rise higher and faster than gas prices while a peanut farmer was in charge.

  51. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    FACT: Free agency doesn’t start til March 13, skippy.
    FACT: If Smith signed with Seattle, their odds would be cut in half.
    FACT: Manning will at the most play 6 games this year. If any.

    Making up for quiet days from Unabummer and soft-serve?

  52. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    FACT: Other teams talking to Smith would be tampering.
    FACT: You harp on Smith all furking summer, and I’m cutting the head off that horse yer on.

  53. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    FACT: Other teams talking to Smith would be crazy.

  54. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I just like the way Metcalf ran
    and have many great memories with his Sanders/McElhenney cuts.
    Plus he went he’s a Texas.
    I tried to keep the list on the shorter side.

  55. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    From time to time I can… I can be a reasonable man. I mean, I admit.. the time between the time of reasonable lapses is subfreakin’stantial. I’m not reasonable often. However, I’m in a giving mood. I believe I’ve tortured the Unca/Bullit retard show enough to take the claps off the head gear that Nurse Ratchett has applied to Unca’s feeble pea brain, pumping literally millions of watts through that single neuron (IT’S still not ALIVE), but I digress.
    Peyton Manning is a risk. I love Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice knows what Bill Romanowski knows, who knows what Stinkle knows, who knows what Dennis knows, who knows what the rest of the world knows that isn’t hooked-up to Nurse Rachett’s torture machine: Alex Smith isn’t sniffing a Super Bowl victory. He just isn’t. Romo said, “Alex Smith will never win a Super Bowl,” and he’s right. This is why Jerry endorsed the 49ers going after Peyton. To take the team to the next level, and get the team off being stuck on stupid with Alex Smith.
    Problem is, Peyton is now just a distraction. You don’t win a Super Bowl with all the hype and all the media distraction.
    The 49ers will win a Super Bowl by either developing a young guy like Kaep, or bringing in a guy like Flynn. Jerry knows this. Harbaugh just needs to get off being stuck on stupid with Alex Smith.
    More gems to follow…

  56. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    U R the imbecile who was quoting
    the fool thug Darren Sharper and saying nothing is going to happen to the Aints.The dummy following the clueless apologist perpetrator.
    You are so wrong on this prediction and the Aints are going to bleed.

  57. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    IF the 49ers have submitted an offer to Alex Smith, it hasn’t been signed because Smith doesn’t like it. Why not? Because the offer to Smith will be, in effect, a one year offer. Harbaugh and Baalke aren’t dumb. The 49ers do not tell the rest of the league or 49er fans where the guaranteed money goes. Nobody knows the break down of the guaranteed money that goes to Crabtree in his rookie contract. That money is dispersed throughout the entire contract, giving Crabtree leverage. They won’t do the same with Smith.
    The contract offered to Smith won’t have guaranteed money beyond 2012. It might be celebrated as a 3 year deal, but it won’t be. The guaranteed money will be up in 2012. Smith won’t have leverage in negotiations until he starts hitting his receivers down field. Until he does that, Smith won’t get any guaranteed money beyond one year… in effect, making his next deal one year for around 4 million, regardless if it’s spun or announced as a 3 year deal.

  58. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Another 15 seconds of my life I’ll never get back.
    In other words, you are wrong again, and flippy floppying out of the 40,000 words you wrote.

    Here’s your theme song.

  59. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Seriously: a healthy Peyton Manning or a healthy Alex Smith next year?
    I should be drawn and quartered for just typing those words. I’ll leave the keelhauling punishment for Spit. He’s more Barnacle Bill the Sailor than I am. Though I do love me a good ole pirate song…best amusement park ride EVER:

  60. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s the facts, Jack. The Niners are offering 3 years. Smith wants 5.

  61. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, WTF did you hear that? Smith wants 5? I think you’re confused with your wife continually asking if you could give her 5. Tell her that pump is on back order.

  62. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Try google, skippy

  63. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck took a beating today…

  64. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Because you are an imbecile and don’t know where to look. You keep lying and making shit up
    Nobidy knows what Crabtree makes or what his bonuses and guarnteed money is? You are just clueless and inept. I’m sure imcompetent and impotent are words you here quite often to decribe you.
    Here is the entire 49ers sal;ary breakdown.

  65. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    “Keelhauling,” is a good word. Not used enough. If you play Words with Friends, that’s one for the tally. I, however, do not play words with friends because, well, I don’t have any. But at least I don’t have two different user names. What kind of reject goes there? The Unca / Bullit retard show should stage a fight so people don’t think they’re the same person.
    Unca: What do you want to fight about to keep everyone from knowing we’re the same person?
    Bullit: How ’bout Peyton Manning?
    Unca: But we agree.
    Bullit: It doesn’t matter, it’s staged.
    Unca: It just goes against my principles.
    Bullit: Sweet Jesus, even I think you’re stupid.
    Unca: Wait, we’re fighting right now. Why don’t we just post this?
    Bullit: Damn, Einstinkle beat us to it. How did he get these transcripts?
    Unca: I don’t know, but that guy’s a geneous.
    Bullit: Skeebers said it’s spelled “genius.”
    Unca: He’d know.

  66. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Can you do that but this time with sock puppets?
    Crabtree’s contract is a secret, oh my

  67. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Retard #1 – please give me a breakdown of Crabtree’s guaranteed money, per year.

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The fact that has seem to have gone unnoticed is that the Colts are apparently saving $26 mil by letting Manning go bit will still take a $16 mil salary cap hit.
    Their net gain by letting Manning go is $10 mil in 2012.
    The Colts know that you’re not going to get the same QB that was “the franchise” that’s why they let him walk. For that net $10 mil they could’ve kept him for another year and showcased him
    to prove he was healthy and then tradrd him next year for a bushel of draft choices.
    They couldn’t do that because Manning is damaged goods and they couldn’t afford the $10 mil gamble.

  69. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You said this in Sept

    “Harbaugh and Baalke’s next moves:

    Reducing Crabtree’s salary.
    Start Kyle Williams
    If Crabtree doesn’t want to reduce it, let him go somewhere else.
    Oh, and one other thing: Vernon Davis is a pussy. Did anyone see Vernon’s alligator arms? WEAK!”

    Seems like you knew how much he was making in Sept.
    VD weak? Another opinion that was so wrong that it’s a joke.

  70. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I used to run an old joke, admittedly into the ground at times, with Faithful asking, “Did we trade Vernon Davis yet?” Time for a new one…
    Did we sign Peyton Manning yet?

  71. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I hear Manning is ‘necking’ with Miami. On the way to work this morning it was mostly being considered a good assumption Miami is where he wants to, and will go. Reggie Wayne was on the radio offering to go there with him. Wayne said the league might not allow him, Payton and Brandon Marshall in Miami because it is already hot there, with those three together the place would burn up!

  72. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Asking the ‘retard’ to do your work? I guess that makes you the sub-moron. Try learning how to use Google. See if you can come up with that, skippy.
    Yeah. Manning went straight to Miami after the press conf. I think it’s a foregone conclusion. There’s a new coaching staff that Manning cal tell what to do. He can tell the front office to get his guys Wayne and Garcon. He can ruin his offense his way. Shanny and Peyton would be butting heads from the get-go. Manning coming west? Highly doubtful.

  73. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    run that is . . .

  74. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    You guys better hope and pray that Manning goes to Miami or any other AFC team for that matter. God forbid if he signs with Seattle or Arizona.

  75. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Almost forgot. Did we sign Peyton Manning yet?

  76. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    One more post like that, and you’ll end up like Jack Woltz . . .

  77. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    One of my all-time favorite movie quotes…”Johnny Fontane never gets that movie. That part is perfect for him, it’ll make him a big star, and I’m gonna run him out of the business – and let me tell you why: Johnny Fontane ruined one of Woltz International’s most valuable proteges. For five years we had her under training – singing lessons, acting lessons, dancing lessons. I spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on her, I was gonna make her a big star. And let me be even more frank, just to show you that I’m not a hard-hearted man, and that it’s not all dollars and cents: She was beautiful; she was young; she was innocent. She was the greatest piece of ass I’ve ever had, and I’ve had ’em all over the world. And then Johnny Fontane comes along with his olive oil voice and guinea charm, and she runs off. She threw it all away just to make me look ridiculous! And a man in my position can’t afford to be made to look ridiculous!”

  78. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Woltz wasn’t going to race Khartoum anyway…

  79. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    “Don Corleone likes to hear bad news immediately.”

  80. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Khartoum loses the first race by a head.

  81. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    So Bullit/Unca – you still haven’t given me a breakdown of the Crabtree guaranteed money yet. You know why you dodge it and haven’t? Because you don’t know. Nobody knows. And this is how the 49ers will disguise the next Smith 1 year deal as a 3 year deal. We both know the game. You, however, won’t recognize it. GO FIND ME GUARANTEED MONEY BREAK DOWNS ON ANY CURRENT 49ER. I DARE YOU.

  82. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Today is March 8th, and the 49ers and Trent Baalke do have 5 more days to re-sign Adam Snyder and Ted Ginn, but I think the 49ers are making a mistake not having at least one of the two locked-up already. Franchising Dashon was smart because it buys the 49ers time, but that time should be used to re-sign guys. Brooks and Spillman isn’t exactly “bringing back the band.” Baalke needs to start working a little harder. He can negotiate multiple contracts. One contract at a time is the work of infants.
    Matt Maiocco recently wrote, “Harbaugh’s a man of his word,” when he was talking about the 49ers not having any interest in Manning, but wanting to re-sign Alex Smith. However, if Harbaugh’s a man of his word: A – he’d follow through on his statement that the qb is the most important position in football, and he’d bring in more competition, and B – Harbaugh and Baalke would do more to “Bring back the Band.” But, I admit – we still have five more days to re-sign Snyder and Ginn. That other band member who reportedly has been offered a contract plays some really, really sour notes.

  83. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Translation: I’m being hysterical and pointing fingers and making accusations even though I have no idea what’s going on.

  84. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Most guaranteed contracts are spread out over the years of the deal. Some are font-loaded, some are backloaded. Big Whoop, soft-serve.
    Go peddle yer horseshit with Unabummer. Yer gonna end up with a horse head in your bed as well . . .

  85. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gawd. You are like a 5 year old. Why? Why? Why? Why? You;d be a lot smarter if you would just pay attention to me instead of constantly throwing up smoke screens . . .

  86. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Don’t you know how to use a computer?
    Are you that lame? I found the salary info in about 60 seconds.

  87. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    So we offer Alex three years. Alex wants five.
    Well, I want Elisha Cuthbert, or whatever.
    Good luck with that, Alex. The 49ers did not draft Kaepernick to sit forever.

  88. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers is deleting posts because he knows the game the 49ers are about to play with the Alex Smith contract. They’ll represent his contract one way, but it’ll be something else entirely….

  89. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I’m deleting posts that are bratty and inane or have needless nasty name calling. You’re leading the pack, Al.

  90. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not obsessed or concerned about the terms of Smith’s contract. Or Crabtree’s or anybody elses. If you are concerned, go look it up and stop bothering people with this drivel.

  91. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers – the game is about the guaranteed money in the Alex Smith contract. You and I see it coming. The 49ers will guarantee money to Alex Smith for one year (maybe even less) because if Smith is beaten out by Kaepernick, they aren’t going to pay Smith a lot of money to sit on the bench.
    I’d be willing to bet that the 49ers are trying to create a contract with Smith that has incentives for playing time, knocking Smith’s contract way down if Smith rides the pine. Smith is probably resisting this, knowing his time is near.
    The Crabtree contract is important because the 49ers intentionally hide the Crabtree guaranteed money from the public. They’ll do the same with the Alex Smith contract. Nobody will know how the guaranteed money is broken down in the next Alex Smith contract (if there even is one).

  92. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    The Miami Dolphins are now just 15-1 (down from 50-1) with the speculation and anticipation of them signing Manning to win the Super Bowl. The Niners remain at a steadfast 20-1 with a QB who’s looking for a 5-yr deal.
    Alex Smith thinks he’s going to get a 5-yr deal?

  93. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    If you’re saying this issue isn’t important, then you’re protecting Alex Smith, making your blog more propaganda than objective discussion.

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Reinstate my post and let Spitoon take the challenge.

  95. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    And if and when Manning signs with the Cardinals, allow me to be the first to crown them NFC West Champs next year. We could of have had Manning and we let ’em get off the hook…

  96. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Like I said, Albert, I don’t care. I don’t care if Kaepernick beats Smith out as the starter next year. I’m just a 49er fan.
    Bullit, it’s my decision who can or can’t post here. If you want to make bets, find another wager.

  97. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:
    This doesn’t explain it. It says 2.5 guaranteed each year if Crabtree does not makes Pro Bowls. If that’s the case, this is why the 49ers can’t restructure or cut Crabtree.
    But to me, this isn’t a good enough breakdown because it doesn’t tell us what has been paid thus far, or how much is left of the 17 million still needing to be paid. Either way, the 49ers got ripped. Doubt Smith will rip ’em.

  98. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Or the 49ers have no interest in cutting Crabtree because he’s their best receiver.

  99. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Damning with faint praise there, Skeebs…

  100. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    I won’t argue with you that Crabtree is the 49ers’ best receiver, but I believe he makes about 5 or even almost 6 million per year. Jeremy Maclin and Dez Bryant make 2 and 3 million dollars per year – and produce about the same with better quarterbacks. I think the 49ers would gladly cut or restructure Crabtree if they could in favor of a deal more “fair market.” But the guaranteed money prevents this.

  101. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Crabtree had 72 receptions for 874 yds with no pre-season reps. He’s coming up on his 4th year. A little early to proclaim him a dud.
    Al, once again, you admit not knowing the facts, but go ahead and speculate the worst anyway. What’s the point? If you want to think that way, fine. But it’s not worth twenty posts. If it concerns you so much, go find the facts. Try Gil Brandt.

  102. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Niners have re-signed Will Tukuafu.

  103. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    He can call Paraagup for the numbers or tweetEugene Parker Crabtree’s agent.
    It’s not hard at all to find a concise comprehensive breakdown of Crabtree’s contract.
    Somebody needs to go back to school to shrpen his computer skills.

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Perhaps you forgot that football is a business. You should ask DHB or Barry Zito to give back some money because they didn’t perform as paid. Good luck with that!

  105. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Oooh. Looks like Stinkle’s getting it behind the woodshed again.
    hyuk . . .

  106. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Jesus Christ, Dennis. Shut the furk up. Manning, for all his greatness has won UNO super bowls. If Montana can’t take a different team to the promised land late in his career, no one can.
    AZ has a shitty line. He’d be on IR in a month.

  107. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It’ll be funny if the Cards dump Kolb and finish second in the Manning Derby.
    They end up with Jason Campbell or Charlie Whitehurst.
    Ask Tony Sparano how it feels when your owner is actively pursuing your replacement and fails.

  108. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    oh god !

  109. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Correction Rob. It’s OMG !!!

  110. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    IF he was coming West, the team that makes more sense for Minning is Seattle. They are building their line, and Cable ain’t a half-bad line coach.

  111. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers – 4:25. Two points. First off, you’re dumb. Nobody is calling him a dud. A Toyota Tundra is a great truck, but not for $75,000. Are you following along now?
    Secondly, not knowing is the point. Are you having a bad day? You’re missing everything. The point is nobody knows how much of the guaranteed money Crabtree has been paid or how it’s doled out.
    One minute you say you don’t care, then if there’s an inconsistency you can pry on, then you care and try your best to discredit. It’s your game – “I’m aloof, now I’m not.” You cry, you defend, you have your agenda, then one minute you try to play like you’re above it all. Like the time you accused me of an agenda. That was rich. You’re a total hypocrite, and right now… you aren’t all there.

  112. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I know how much Crabtree makes.
    Sharpen your computer skills.
    Anyway if Tom Cruise gets paid $29 mil and the movie flops he’s not giving it back.
    Half of the players that sign contracts with the NFL are overpaid. You suddenly develop a more myopic view than usual and target Crabtree. Actually you’ve been after him for years. I forgot you are the hater.
    I’m not sure where the hell you are going with this?

  113. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit/Unca/Skeebers are just trying to muddy the water in hopes of protecting Alex Smith, but I’ve made my point. Smith will get a one year deal, even if the 49ers try to celebrate a three year deal.

  114. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    That’s great news, Albert. We can all rest easier tonight.

  115. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Remember the other night when someone went multi-orgasmic because Rice said we should go after Manning? Then yesterday
    it was Flynn again.
    I trust that Baalke/Harbaugh will choose wisely and we’ll be fine at QB.
    No Manning and most likely no Flynn. Alex Smith in 2012?
    Most of us will support the choice made by Jim Harbaugh whoever it is (except McNabb or Whitehurst).
    Contrary to the troll’s belief
    we are not married to just one particular QB.

  116. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    That’s funny, Bullit. You got that site from me when I posted Maclin’s salary.

  117. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Not quite. At the time you said too bad the 49ers didn’t have something similar. You obviously don’t know how websites work.
    I told you so at the time but your head was resting up the usual hole.

  118. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    That’s why I said that’s funny. I didn’t look at the entire thing….and as usual, you’re pickin’ up my scraps.

  119. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Do you honestly go through life like this? It’s a wonder nobody
    has brought a weapon to work or put out a contract.

  120. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    They have but I’m a bad man cubed. Can’t touch this…

  121. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Most likely if somebody has ever saved Spitoons life he would tell them that he really didn’t need the help that he had everything under control.
    People don’t help others because of assbites like Spitoon.

  122. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    You’re a little late to the party. SOMETIMES the guaranteed money is loaded up front. Sometimes it’s evenly dispersed throughout the entire contract, making the entire contract more powerful. Loaded up front = good for the organization. Dispersed throughout = good for the player. If the 49ers were through with all of Crabtree’s guaranteed money, they’d re-negotiate in a heartbeat because other players with more productivity are making literally one third of what Crabtree is making. The end result is that Crabtree is way, way overpaid.
    The issue, though, isn’t Crabtree. It’s the Alex Smith contract with Colin Kaepernick waiting in the wings. I think Kaep beats out Alex Smith sometime this year. I think Kaep is ready. Let’s face it, Alex Smith is no Brett Favre. Kaep isn’t here to sit for four years, being infected by Alex Smith’s numerous shortcomings.
    If Smith goes down to injury, he may never get his job back, and that’s something that Baalke needs to consider when presenting Alex with a contract (that and downing a fifth of burbon at the same time to dull the pain of having to pay a stiff). If Baalke considers that, and analyzes it correctly, there won’t be anymore guaranteed contract in 2013 for Alex Smith. Meaning the 49ers would be free to either cut Smith or restructure his contract to a contract more in-line with Smith’s backup status that, despite being new to him in 2012 or 13, would still seem really, really fitting.
    Tom Condon is asking for 5 years because the 49ers are offering 1. If the 49ers and Smith are really far apart, I can’t wait for the media to write that. Alex Smith has about as zero leverage, no suitors, and the fan base would fry him.

  123. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I just can’t believe all this 49er and Alex Smith FA contract talk. Seriously. I’m a horse guy, so I know a little about the 4H. But I can also speak about the 5W’s. Who, What, Where, When and Why would any other NFL team sign Alex Smith to a FA contract?
    They wouldn’t. Time to go clean Frank’s litter box. I think Chuck’s #11 Alex Smith jersey has been used as a liner long enough.

  124. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Smith’s jersey isn’t fit to line Frank’s cat box. You don’t want that kind of stench next to Frank’s under carriage.

  125. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners are offering 3 . . .
    Good to see you trying to catch up to me, Spittle. You take my posts and call them your own.
    Again, Dennis, there are abuot 8 teams that would gladly take Alex over the shit they got at QB. Seattle springs to mind. Think Carroll’s happy about TJ and the Whitehead? Shanny would love to have Alex. Skelton’s barely servicable in AZ. Which is why they are in the Manning sweepstakes. Kolb? Talk about dead money.
    If you think those teams wouldn’t take Smith, yer too far into the glue.

  126. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    LMAO… there isn’t one team out there that wants Alex Smith. Not one.

  127. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, you are droll. “Shanny” would love to have Alex?
    And Rose McGowan would love to have me. And I would love to have her. And she and I would love to have YOU, stop making such a goddamn fool out of yourself.

  128. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I realize it’s but….
    “Per a league source, Crabtree has signed a six-year, $32 million contract. (The total includes guaranteed money, base salaries, and the one-time incentive based on achieving minimum playing time.)

    The deal also includes $17 million in guaranteed money.”
    What this means Albert, no matter how you slice it, if the numbers reported here are factual, all you need to know is that the Term is 6yrs with 17M guaranteed.
    17/6 = 2.83/yr.
    Cut him in yr 4, owe him the unpaid balance at 2.83/yr. Have a nice life, move on.
    32M is reached over the life of the Contract.
    Simple math with these Contracts is years/guaranteed money.
    You can bloat a Contract to read 80M for 7yrs and only guarantee 50M.
    Depending on age, the Team may figure the player won’t see years beyond 4.
    Do the math in this scenario and you realize the guy isn’t seeing 11.43M/yr if he leaves in year 4. He’s seeing the 50M number at 7.14M.

  129. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    With the bumper crop of WRs in this Draft I don’t see any Team getting carried away with marginal Contracts on the position.
    Wallace at the right price makes Pick 30 worth it.
    You wouldn’t go broke for him and lose the Pick.
    Alex playing hard to get won’t happen either.
    It’s a take it or leave offer I’m sure.
    Josh Johnson is an option we use for…..wait for it…..LEVERAGE.

  130. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Forgot to paste the link on my earlier post Albert regarding the Crabtree Contract –

  131. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

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