Identity Crisis

The San Francisco 49er’s 2013 season is busy surrendering its weapons and checking into the prison of history this week, getting assigned to a cell in dangerous proximity to the 1990-1993 Buffalo Bills. Three straight trips to the NFC Championship game and nada with the Lombardi hardware.

They’re also facing the real possibility that their division rivals are going to make ONE trip to the finals and come home as Champions. And of course the bigger than life ghost of Bill Walsh, who grabbed all the marbles the first time he had the chance.

Are we heading into the Schottenheimer Zone? Heck, have we already arrived at that dubious destination?

Marty Schottenheimer’s teams (Cleveland, Kansas City, San Diego) made the playoffs a whopping 13 times, but his postseason record was 5-13 and he never made it to the Super Bowl, despite playing in three AFC Championship games. Jim Harbaugh made it to the big show in his second season and second effort, so we’ll bump him up out of the Schottenheimer Zone.

Some people like comparing Harbaugh to Bo Schembechler, and perhaps that’s fair, but Bo is a college boy only. So he’s disqualified from this strictly NFL dissertation.

So, how about the Cowher Zone? Bill Cowher coached the Steelers for 15 years, captured eight division titles, earned 10 postseason playoff berths, played in 21 playoff games, advanced to six AFC Championship games and made two Super Bowl appearances, losing the first one in 1995 and finally winning the second one in 2005, a long 10 years later. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles. At the conclusion of the 2005 season, the Steelers had the best record of any team in the NFL since Cowher was hired as head coach.

Sound like it could be Harbaugh’s resume 12 years from now? Is that enough to make us happy? Probably not.

How about John Harbaugh, Jim’s brother? Four years in the playoffs, two AFC Championship losses, a 5-4 postseason record, and then a clean 4-0 sweep of everything in season number five, after firing his long time OC Cam Cameron shortly before entering the playoffs.

The 49ers did succeed in knocking the swagger out of the Seahawks this year. They beat them at Candlestick and then came within a fingertip of beating them in their own supposedly invincible house. And you can bet on that final 49er drive there wasn’t a single cocky player on the Seahawks’ sideline. Scared shitless would be much closer to the truth. Their whole strutting PEDophile act on the brink of ruin.

At any rate, the 2013 49ers did overcome the Super Bowl losers’ syndrome by not only making the playoffs, but getting within a fingertip of making a repeat trip to the big dance. A commendable effort.

Now it’s GM Trent Baalke’s time to perform. Let’s hope he can impress us over the next four months and we’re patting him on the back when training camp opens next August.

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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This week’s NFL FX of the NFC Championship Game shows the decision by Petey and the Seahags to go on 4th and 7 rather
    than kick the 53 yd FG after calling a timeout.
    Russell Wilson says he can get the Niners to jump on a hard count
    and get the 5 yards for a 48 yd FG.
    The Niners did jump on the hard count and Aldon Smith and Ray McDonald inexplicably stopped their pass rush and Wilson went deep for a TD on the free play.

    We had the discussion about offsides penalties here and someone said they were OK with them.
    This offsides was hard to take and we played right into the Seahag strategy and got screwed. It’s all about discipline.
    When we went on hard counts and the opposition gave us a free 5 yards we looked at them as chumps to fall for it. It works both ways.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    ESPN recap of the season. Some of the grades are on the generous/homer side.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    On the Niner practice squad is WR/PR Devon Wylie
    He ran a 4.34 at the NFL Combine and could develop into a slot receiver. Let’s see how he does in training camp and the preseason. This is his third year and third training camp so it’s all about growth and development.

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Correction Wylie ran a 4.37 and a 4.43 at the Combine

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Brandon Jacobs is retired and decided to speak out how he really feels about Harbaugh. Another class act.

  6. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I wouldn’t go as far as labeling Harbaugh the next Schottenheimer, Schembechler or Knox just yet. Obviously, the thought has crossed my mind because his play calling is eerily reminiscent of those coaches. I’ll give him another couple of years before I go there but the mentions will probably not stop. Too bad Roman didn’t get hired away. If he did I’d get to find out how much of that play calling is Roman and how much is Harbaugh. Either way it comes down to Harbaugh since he is the head coach.

  7. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The beat boys are saying Harbaugh planned to make Crist the OC and Mangini the QB coach if Roman had left.

  8. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh’s the head coach, so the blame falls with him. What pisses me off the the conservative shit EARLY in games. We get a gift turnover on the first play of the game. 2 yard run, 2 yard pass, 4 yard run by Kappy. 3 points. Already a win for Seattle there. IT happened in numerous games, including both Carolina games.

    The point being, if you get an early 7 point lead, you’ve really set the tone with the turnover and quick TD. Merely getting 3 is all well and good, but the games wouldn’t be as close in the end if we had bigger early leads.

    Last year was about falling behind early. This year was about not exploiting mistakes. Both times it came down to the last few seconds with a shot to win. Both were failures. Kappy apparently said he was going to Crabs based on his pre-snap read. If so, then he needs to do a much better job of reading his progressions. We had a 1st down at the 18, 30 seconds, and 2 timeouts left. No reason to take the high-risk play.

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The key to the last play was the LB Malcom Smith didn’t really cover Kendall Hunter in the flat but started drifting watching
    Kap’s eyes. Sherman made a tremendous play but if Smith went with his assignment to cover Hunter he wouldn’t have been in position to make the pick and it would’ve been second down.
    Kap has to learn to look off the coverage because where his head turns influences the defense.
    Even if he decided to throw to Crabtree presnap he cannot lock on and tell the defense where he’s going.
    This is a must learn for him to evolve into a better QB.

  10. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Kappy’s got plenty of time to learn. This was his 1st full year as the starter.

    He has the ability to look people off. He did it to Keuchly in the Carolina game a few times. He just needs to read his progressions faster. This season coming up is big for him and his learning.

    Pisser is, if that throw is 6-12″ to Kappy’s right, Crabs makes the catch. What Kappy needs to learn on that play is that he HAS to put it where Crabs is the only one that has a shot at catching it. It was 1st down for God’s sake. No reawson for the high-risk throw.

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting stat on Frank Gore
    “According to Pro Football Focus, Gore was in pass protection 160 times this season – far more than any other running back in the league. He allowed no sacks, one quarterback hit and just three quarterback pressures.”

    In other words he blocks not only pass rushers but he’s sprung so many plays downfield with his blocking.

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Pettine is the new coach of the Brownies.
    All head coaching jobs have been filled in the NFL.
    Musgrave is the new EGO QB coach having been let go as the Viking OC.

  13. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Steve Young on KNBR giving his thoughts on the game and what Kap has to do to be better.

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Two running plays All 22 analysis by Inside the Film Room

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I would like to start a civil discussion and not an argument on the notion that Kap has a lot of time to learn to be a QB.
    Kap is under contract for one more year. He is looking for a big
    payday which is understandable, Joe Flacco/Jay Cutler money.
    That is a commitment of $18 mil a year with $50 mil guaranteed.

    The question I have always had is has he earned the new contract?
    This contract can make or break the 49ers for the next 10 years.
    My feeling is to let 2014 play out and have Kap earn the contract by being a pocket passer. If I was still unsure I would franchise him in 2015 and give him $18 mil (whatever the rate is that year). It would be a gamble and then if Kap proves his worth he will have the leverage and gain a bigger payday which I would be OK with.
    At this point I would not commit to the guaranteed money of the long term deal. I would have to see him take a couple of big steps as a pocket passer to commit to that.
    I posted a Steve Young interview yesterday and he echoed what Joe Montana said earlier. Kap needs to improve his pocket prescence ans pass out of there.
    Steve Young said Bill Walsh use to berate him for freelancing and running for 20 yard gains instead of running the play called which was open.
    I want Kap to succeed but in my mind he has not shown much growth
    this year. The Niners are built to win now and in a year or two they will look quite different depending on who they can keep.

  16. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If they wait, they will fatally wound themselves as did Baltimore last year with Joe Flacco. If they wait, they might as well draft a QB and start over, because somneone (say Jerry Jones) will back up the truck and give him an 8 year $200 mill deal, or something nearly as ridiculous. Kaepernick won’t stick around like Alex did.

    Montana and Young had the advantage of playing behind the most dynamic offensive head coach of his generation, if not all time. Jim Harbaugh has a nice running game. The biggest hurdle in Kaepernick’s development at this point is his coaches.

  17. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of Young, does he remember his career? Or has he been hit too many times? Young had the luxury of sitting behind Joe for years. His first huge year, 1992, he was 31. All through the time he was spot-starting in the 80s, he got the same knock as Colin. A run-first guy who didn’t wait long anough for plays to develop. The coaches didn’t take that completely away from him. They integrated it into his learning curve and let it be part of his game. If these coaches keep doing the same thing they are doing, he won’t progress. It’ll be a self-fullfilling prophecy and he will leave.

    Someone like Andy Reid or Chip Kelly would get a hell of a lot more out of Kaepernick than this group of coaches ever will.

  18. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Fire Roman and hire Chris Ault. If I’m young Jed, I’m seriously looking at a new OC. Harbaugh be damned.

  19. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I mostly agree with what both of you said. I think the type of offense Kap is in will always stunt his growth and that is more on the coaching staff. Kap does need to grow and Harbaugh is an excellent QB coach but when it comes to play calling his QB is limited until called on when behind to save their asses from their ‘let’s keep it close to the end and see what happens’ approach.

    I would try to sign Kap now for about 15 mil per year. If he doesn’t take it then use Bullit’s approach. These coaches need Kap’s ability to make something out of nothing more than a classic pocket passer to save their sorry ass play calling.

  20. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If they can’t extend Kappy, he’s gone. Whether this year or next. Franchise him? That would be ~$21 mill, and it would definitely usher his exit. Unless we give him 6/$150.

    Since it looks like the coaches are staying, well, there you go. With the coaches holding him back, buying 2 years puts him out of our reach, and some other team gets him and his enormous talent.

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Joe Flacco signs the big contract and then lays an egg.
    19 TDs 22 Ints and a 73 QB rating. With the contract Flacco signed $120 mil for 6 years his performance was not acceptable.
    Ravens miss the playoffs because nobody on that team stepped forward.
    Flacco’s best year for TDs was 25 and his career QB rating is 83.
    Flacco makes similar money to Drew Brees who’s career QB rating is 99 and who’s averaging 35 TD passes a season with the Aints.
    The question is will Kap be a Flcco or a Brees?
    As I have said previously I opt to wait and see and I would bring in another QB to develop just in case and to push Kap.

  22. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    We almost have to draft a QB this year anyway – I’m not comfortable going forward with Colt McCoy as our only option if Kap goes down.

    At this point I’m satisfied that Kap has the athleticism and play making ability to be an “Elite Quarterback”. It’s all about the mental side of the game now. Can he go through the progressions correctly and quickly? We won’t really know for sure until he has two more years of experience, so any contract in that time is going to be a bit faith-based.

  23. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Everyone loves to bash Colt McCoy as the backup QB.
    Bear in mind you had a NFL QB who has experience and started
    a bunch of games and you had him here for minimum wage.
    For minimum wage what’s there to complain about?

  24. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No Grump, we ARE going to draft a QB. Likely a 3rd rounder. Pea Shooter McCoy is not the answer. They need a vet and a rookie. And all 3 need to be on the roster. Temple Beth-El can wait one more year on the PS.

    My point Bullitt, is if you wait, you lose him. Keeping him will cost, but waiting guarantees his departure or bankrupts the team. No one stepped up in Balt? They couldn’t afford to sign guys after the onerous contract they were basically force to sign Flacco to. Because they couldn’t work out an extension.

    If the Niners don’t extend him this year, he WILL be gone, mainly because the Niners won’t back up the truck like Balt did. If he hits the market, Jerry Jones would love nothing more than to sign him out from under our ass.

    That is the choice this front office has to make. Sign him this offseason, or watch him leave. There is no grace period or waiting time. They will not tie up $21 million with the franchise tag either.

    They really have no other choice than to sign him to something like a 4/$88 mill extension. He’ll get at least 6/$150 on the open market.

  25. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, how ’bout he sucks? I suppose we should let Kaepernick go and back Pea Shooter. Our problems will be over. And we’ll never see the playoffs again.

  26. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Why do you keep metioning Jerry Jones and Dallas as a landing spot for Kap.
    If you had any football knowledge you would know that Romo was just extended on a $108 mil contract through 2020 of which $40 mil is guaranteed. You do the math and tell me how they’re going to snatch Kap.
    At this point in time Kap’s real value is uncertain.
    You want to pay him on his high ceiling and potential.
    Whatever Baalke/Harbaugh decide will determine both their futures with the Niners.
    Likely to be a major factor is what type of contracts Cam Newton and Russell Wilson get. The wild card is if the Bungles
    get stupid and pay Dalton big money which be throwing the baby out with the bath water.

  27. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Cam and RW don’t mean anything at this point. Kappy’s value is pretty much set. With Cutler and Romo getting 18 mill, Kappy’s worth 20-22. And that’s the floor. Don’t like it? Tough shit. Someone else WILL pay him. Guaranteed. Criminy, Kappy has more road playoff wins than Joe and Steve combined.

    The FO has little recourse. Pay him now or lose him. If they drag their feet, he will be too pricey come FA time. There are plenty of teams that will overbid for him. The Jets spring to mind. Or the Raiders. Or the Bills or the Browns or JAX or AZ. Jerry Jerkoff could cut Romo and go after him. There are plenty of teams desperately looking for a QB. Especially one of his caliber.

  28. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    At this point his real value is uncertain? To you, sure. But to the rest of the world he’s a guy you can build a team around.

    Uncertain based on what? ased on what? Your extensive football knowledge? Don;t make me laugh skippy.

  29. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, McCoy just did not impress in his pre-season time this year. He deserves one more look next year, and I wish him the best (I know you love your Longhorns), but he has to show we can rely on him to win a couple of games if we need him.

    In any event, QBs should be drafted early and often. Develop at least one good spare, and one project. You can always try to trade one if you get an overload – and teams do overpay for guys with marginal talent (Flynn, Palmer, etc.)

  30. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jerry cannot cut Romo because he paid him $40 mil guaranteed.
    That is the part that Chuck doesn’t seem to understand.
    First you say “They (Niner’s FO) will not tie up $21 million with the franchise tag either.”
    Then a couple of posts later “Kappy’s worth 20-22. And that’s the floor.”
    So that’s the floor?

    You are suggesting that the Niners pay him 20 plus percent of the salary cap while the rest of the 52 guys grovel for the 75%
    left over?
    Looking at the big picture if Kap gets that kind of money a lot of players will be taking paycuts or get released as an end result of the $20 mil raise that Kap got.

  31. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I know McCoy’s limitations and have never touted him even as a challenger for starting QB.
    He’s basically an emergency QB and would be a game manager if inserted due to injury.
    Outside of a rookie the Niner FO went the cheapest way possible
    asking McCoy to take a paycut to minimum which he agreed to.
    It is brutal to hold that against Colt especially because he never saw any action except a couple of kneeldowns in the regular season.
    With that said I still think McCoy would do better than Bethel-Thompson but that’s like picking the lesser of two evils.
    The Niners need to draft some QB talent to push Kap to his full potential. They also need to give Kap reps in the preseason. Last year by sitting him out hurt his development IMO.

  32. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Draft San Jose St QB David Fales in the 3rd round. I think he is playing in the Senior Bowl tomorrow?

  33. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, I agree Kap needs exhibition reps. No practice is the same as a game. And I would not cut Colt loose just yet. But I would definitely bring in a guy who can be number two within a year or so, and move up to the starter if Kap gets hurt or goes totally south.

  34. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So, Bullitt. You don’t like my math? Answer me this. What do you think Kappy would get right now on the open market?

    What happens if he leads the 49ers to the Super Bowl? What’s he worth then? You think the cap is going down? You think his number will? The faster they sign him, the more they save. They have seen enough at this point to take the risk. You haven’t? But McCoy’s treatment is brutal? Cute, skippy.

    If they wait, we are drafting our new QB this draft, and you’ll get your wish of Colt McCoy starting in 2015.

    And I guarantee that if the Niners wait til Wilson and Newton get signed, the numbers will be ludicrous.

    Your waiting game guarantees his departure.

  35. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Contrary to what has been said here on the first drive
    the draw play would’ve worked for a TD or least a first down if
    Vernon Davis had made his block. Unfortunately for the Niners
    the LB slipped his block and made the play.
    I present visual and audio evidence

  36. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I would pay Kap what Rothlesberger and Matt Ryan are averaging
    which is around $12 mil year.
    Not top dollar because he is not elite YET like Peyton, Brees and Rogers and shouldn’t be paid like them. I cannot reward potential because as they say potential just means you haven’t achieved what your capable yet. I cannot commit the future of the team to expectations. I prefer to reward accomplishments.
    After losing the playoff game Andy Dalton was mocked by a lot of people. Dalton threw for 334 yds 1 TD and 2 picks whereas
    Kap threw for 153 yds 1 TD 2 picks and ran for 130 yds. Dalton’s total offense exceeded Kap by over 50 yds yet he is labeled a loser. yet during the regular season Dalton had 1100 more yds passing and threw 12 more TD passes. Why is it OK to ridicule Dalton but not Kap?
    Giving Kap a big contract now is like signing Barry Zito.
    He will help you on occasion with amazing performances but week in and week out you have no idea if he’s going to be great or stink the place up.
    When you give that much money to one player he better be able to carry the team because you will weaken your roster in so many other areas.

  37. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- You don’t sound like you are much of a Kap fan. Would you rather still have Alex Smith?

  38. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Why you ask? Because anyone with a pair of functioning eyes can see that Kappy has more upside than Dalton. How many playoff wins has Dalton engineered? Dalton was one and done. Kappy won 2 games on his arm and his legs. Kappy has a better arm, can generate more offense on broken plays, and is a much better athlete. If you can’t see that then I can’t help you.

    There are 2 choices here. Deal with his contract now, or watch him leave after 2014.

    Cutler and Romo aren’t elite by any standard. They both make 18 mill. That is the base Kappy is looking at. 12 mill is laughable. Apparently you really want Kappy out of here. 12 mill won’t even get you Crabtree, let alone Kappy.

    Beyond that, yardage doesn’t mean shit, skippy and you know it. Russell Wilson was what, 16th in passing yardage? Yeah, major fail amirite? I suppose he’ll settle for 14 mill.

  39. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, just like Barry Zito. What f***ing planet do you live on?

    Zito had 4 mediocre seasons before the Giants outbid themselves for Zito’s services. Yup. Identical. Except for all of it. Don’t hurt yourself thinking too hard. This is Flacco all over again. The Niners can sign him now to a favorable deal or watch him go somewhere else. I don’t think they’ll back up the truck and give himwhat he wants, but if they do, then they’ve hamstrung themselves like Balt did.

    How do we avoid that? Hmmmm, I’ll left you football mind figure that one out.

    They obviously think he’s the guy. I’m about 80% sure they take care of Kappy. Frankly, I’m not clear if Harbaugh is the right coach for him. He needs a contract a well. I’d love to see Chris Ault come over here from KC and be Kappy’s OC. I don’t think it’ll happen, but putting Kappy with a better offensive coaching staff, one that has a better idea of a moe sophisiticated passing game, would do wonders for this offense.

  40. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    So screw the rest of the team. Kap has won all these games on his own?
    How does any QB turn the ball over 3 times on the last 3 possessions of a huge game and have Chuck fawning over him willing to give him a max contract? Do we reward failure?

    My whole point here, and what you’re absolutely missing is
    until he can single handedly win games by putting the team on his shoulders you do not commit the contract that will cripple your team in all other areas.
    Rothlisberger makes $12.5 mil a year and he’s won 2 Super Bowls. That’s a reasonable amount.
    If Kap accomplishes more and shows his true worth you can always give him a raise and extend him. Easier to give a player a raise on merit rather than cut his pay for poor play.
    There is no way I pay him as a top 5 QB until he wins a Super Bowl or really carrying the team by throwing multiple TDs per game.

  41. robNo Gravatar says:

    great season , great game we just came up one play short

  42. robNo Gravatar says:

    next year we’re going all the way !

  43. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Shitty season, shitty game. We just came up one play short.

    Next year we’re going to take a shit again!

  44. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    There is a report out per SB Nation that it is doubtful Eric Wright will be back and it is due to his poor work habits. He is firmly in Fangio’s doghouse and being a healthy scratch from the NFCCG is a clear indicator.

  45. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    So Chuck wants to pay Kap $22M/yr? For doing what?
    Being the best runner on this team? I grant you that. Jimbo concurs with you, wholeheartedly. It was patently plain to see to the trained eye that the Niners not only trusted, but called plays and expected Kap to gain yards — RUNNING THE BALL! vs Seattle. Not Frank.

    Have I missed something? I thought the NFL had become a PASSING league? It did. And has been for quite awhile even before Roger Goodell exasperated the situation and transformed the NFL into the Vagina Monologues.

    But Bo Schembechler Jr. continues to defy that notion and run the old “3 yards and a cloud of dust” philosophy. And you just want to pay $22M/yr to our best RUNNING BACK, who also happens to play QB.

    Berger had you pegged right on the money — you just love spending money for no good cause like a liberal democrat.

    Unca Nancy Pelosi Chuck. Better known as a mook.

  46. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    And to you people who want to draft a WR in the 1st rd?
    To quote the great Ricky Watters, “For who? For what?”
    The Niners had the fewest amount of PA (417) this year. We have Bo Schembechler Jr. running our offense. And you want to WASTE our 1st selection on a WR who most likely, will sit on the sideline behind our starters, or when he does enter the game, end up blocking given our run/pass ration.

    You people make me sick.

  47. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- LOL!

  48. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m listening to Elton John’s ‘Goodbye Yellow Brick Road’. What a great CD!

    Got Steve Hackett ‘Blues With a Feeling” and Jeff Beck ‘At Ronnie Scott’s’ cued up next. NJ sent the Beck CD to me, very good. I’ll have the Dodger Stadium hockey game on without sound. By the time the game is over I should be drunk and off to bed. Before that I want to read more comments like Del’s! Classic!

  49. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke, since Alex Smith and Kyle Williams lost us the NFCG vs the NYG, what has he drafted for our IMMEDIATE future? Say what? Come again? Put A.J. Jenkins name in a goddamn envelope. Done. Really done. Done. Really done. Did I mention he’s done? He used our 2nd rd pk on a guy (LMJ) who is a half-ass punt returner. At least he doesn’t fumble like his predecessor. Everyone else in our 2012 class, is a swing a miss.

    2013? Eric Reid was a godsend. Tank and Lattimore were basically red-shirted. The team was just 6 yds away of POSSIBLY (many people assume a TD there would ) WIN the game. Niners still woulda had to play defense. Just more heartbreak when Joe F’ing Flacco woulda thrown another TD pass vs our POS secondary.

    But I digress…point being of the NFL Draft. Baalke has given this team ONE player, Eric Reed, who has significantly contributed to this team the last two years. Everyone else? To quote Dan Patrick, “The Whifff.”

    But I digress once again…the NFL Draft has not been good for anyone. I need something that makes me and everyone fell good…

    “There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.”

    —Winston Churchill

    Who can argue with that?

  50. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- We have somewhere between 11 and 13 picks for this years draft. I say we draft 11 to 13 WRs! LOL!

  51. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well Bullitt, I guess we’ll see how 2015 goes with Pea Shooter McCoy.

    Answer my question. How much do you think Kappy gets on the open market right now? $12.5 is beyond laughable.

    Little Ben signed his deal in 2008, skippy. Gee, think that means anything?

    How bout the rest of you? Think Kappy’s only worth 12.5?

  52. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca-I’m drunk, are you in for politics? I’m stupid enough, meaning low IQ(Democrats), to engage in your faux independent deliberation!

  53. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    When many of us have made, and listened to, the observations about Kaep needing to learn to function from the pocket, it’s pretty clear to me, he isn’t worth SB QB money just yet.
    And I happen to love the Kid.

    Kurt Warner, Joe and Steve among others, can’t all be clueless.
    Kaep should be offered a back-loaded extension, somewhere in the Roethlisberger/Cutler realm.

    Baltimore gambled with the Flacco extension until he delivered on the SB win.
    It’s a dicey predicament, especially with the others who will seek extensions.

    We’ll recoup money from Carlos, maybe Frank and/or Whitner.

    Iupati is the caveat.
    He’s important. No argument.
    Can he be retained at a decent number?

    If it came down to holding onto Iupati or Kaep, I’d lean toward Kaep.

  54. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Guaranteed money is the number that matters.
    Kaep being younger than Cutler will give Marathe and Baalke some room to negotiate.
    Iupati got pretty banged up this year.
    Hard to know if this is the sign of things to come or, just a bad year.

    As in any extension proposal, it’s age vs production.
    The Rookie Cap System is also there to protect hard Cap money too.
    We’ll be getting younger options in the Secondary and WR areas.
    Crabtree is another concern going forward.

  55. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Chuck. Your WP blog and it’s components stink on ice. I can’t recall how many of my last comments have ended up in volatile ether. My comments and answers have dissipated into thin air.

    Why the hell do I even try to keep commenting on your blog despite that recent hiccup? Something tells me otherwise to cease and desist …You’d probably throw a parade in my honor. Thank you. Do you have a more plausible reason to ask me, “Why?”

    Trust me, you don’t won’t to hear the answer “why.”

    Go Niners!

  56. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Kaep is struggling with the game between his ears.
    He’s got to see and react to Defenses much more decisively.
    Because he’s young, I’d give him the time to put it together.

    All the intangibles are there, he just relies on his legs to mask those deficiencies right now.
    He’ll continue to improve.

    Wilson keeps plays alive within the pocket, Kaep makes yards on his own.
    Once Kaep ‘gets it’ he’ll surpass the majority of his current peers in a big way.

  57. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh Del, I’ve had that happen quite frequently over on Chucks’ site as well.

    Type out a reply and have it come up ‘Sorry your comment can’t be posted’ or some sh!t like that.

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As for the play that ended our Season, I belive that throw was designed more as a back shoulder target.
    What it looked like to me was, the pass got too far inside.

    Kaep is facing a very good Seattle Secondary, twice a year for the foreseeable future.
    He has to learn to beat them with his eyes as well.
    He knew where that play was going before he took the snap.
    I think Seattle knew it too.

  59. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The intelligent people comment here. The others post somewhere else. Kiss my ass if you got no balls. NoFear, 12thMan, and especially the baseball frauds love Chucks site because they are cowards. I’ll repeat, intelligent minds post here. NoFear is banned! He is too stupid to post here! He likes Greg Roman as an OC. Anybody who likes Greg Romnan as an OC is too stupid to post here! I think Skeebers likes Roman. That makes him too stupid to run a blog!

  60. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, as for Politics.
    Get a whiff of what’s going on here in NJ for my feelings about Politicians.

    They’re all about special interests and power brokerage.
    Who the H3LL looks out for the people they’re elected to serve?

    We’re looking like the second coming of Katrina over here.
    Sandy relief money has yet to get to the many families who’ve lost everything, almost 18 months since they’ve been displaced.

    Having lived here all of my life, we’ve come to expect that the Mob and Politics, are one and the same.

  61. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I want everybody here to declare Romnan is the correct OC or the wrong OC. Nothing matters until he goes away.

  62. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Are you in favor of keeping Roman or firing him?

  63. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Put it this way Berger.
    I wouldn’t miss him if he were replaced.
    But, I wouldn’t fire him until I knew whether he is running the Harbaugh directive.
    I happen to think Roman has problems with the passing attack.
    And with that said, it could also be on Kaep not having enough comfort within the pocket or, perhaps his inability to relax within the pocket and see all his progressions, before opting to scoot.

    Something has to change.

  64. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The thought that Mangini was being considered as a QB Coach, suggests to me, that Kaep needs help seeing what a Defense is doing to his understanding of Pre-Snap reads and, the adjustments made when the play is snapped.

    He’s young, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
    I also can’t put it all on Roman.

  65. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    As a 49er fan I realize we should have just won the last 3 Super Bowls. NJ 49er and Bullit are still sucking on Romans dick. We have no chance of winning a championship if Roman is the OC. NoFear loves conservative coaches, so do Bullit, NJ and other oldies. I will educate you idiots about play calling when you finally decide winning it all is more important than just being in the playoffs. Stupid is as stupid does.

  66. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Give me another option beside your analogy Berger.
    I’m all for winning a SB.
    All I’m saying is, something has to change.
    We’ve gotten there, 3 consecutive years, with Roman.
    Pretty astute of you to realize we’ve lost each time.
    I can hang some of this on Kaep too.
    We’ve been prepared, we’ve been all these games too.
    Execution is just as important as the play calling.

    Did Kaep even look to the left last Sunday on that final play?
    3 wides left, time on the clock, timeouts in hand.
    Kaep blew that play.
    He’s got something in his head that says, Crabtree is the answer.
    I hardly think that can be laid at the feet of Roman.

  67. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Drunken Berger! You gonna go for a new record tonight?

    Roman IMHO is definitely holding the team back. He is able to beat up on mediocre teams and semi-decent ones. Against the really good teams… not so much. How many playoff games have we played in the last three years? And how many of those games did we look GOOD in the first half? We won more than we lost but a number of those were frenetic Second half comebacks where the game plan was dumped in the shitter and Kappy started playing playground ball.

    Does anyone else think Kappy looks better making plays out fo nothing than in our system? What conclusions can we draw from that?

    As for politics… To paraphrase Orwell: They are ALL assholes, but some are bigger assholes than others. Since Barrack’s merry men are reading this and everything else: Hiya, Fvckers. Got nothing else to do with your time? Eff you all and the Chicago Mob horse you rode in on.

  68. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I blame Kap less for that last INT than for some of his other mistakes in that game. He had Crabs in single coverage at the snap – and Harbaugh said on the record that the ball should have gone to Crabs. Dickless Sherman made a Hell of a play, and the LB came off his coverage and made a very smart play to be in position to catch the tip.

    I still say when a power running team cannot get two yards per carry from Gore on the ground, your QB is going to be forced to do too much and more often than not will not be able to perform enough miracles. My question is why were we not able to run, or to pass and open up the running game? Is it Kap, is it Roman, or is it both?

  69. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    OR, is it the O-line is not as all-conquering as their news clippings might suggest?

  70. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I love Grumpy! Having said that, F you! 🙂

    Let’s be honest, NJ has no idea of play calling.
    He is a beer drinking stat person. Most fans are that, including NoFear and bullit. Obviously they are numbers people. I watch the chess match that is football. If a fan can’t see that spreading the formations allows a running game, than they are NoFear, NJ, Bullit and Greg Roman. You fans unite. I am tired of your expertise.

  71. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Apply for the job Berger.
    God knows we’re too stupid.

  72. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, F you too, from the bottom of my black bitter heart! 🙂

    Another question: is calling two plays in the huddle a good thing, or not?

    I can see how a simple 1 or 2 choice would be easier for a young QB – but are the choices enough to match up against complicated NFL defenses? OTOH, can Kap sort through hundreds of play / formation combinations to find the right option at his level of experience? Montana could, of course, but Joe is the God of quarterbacks, and only Infidels would point to the 30% or so of his games that Joe lost.

    So, should Kappy have more freedom to audible? Or is that only going to overwhelm him?

    I have lots of questions. Unfortunately, like most fans, I can only guess poorly at the answers. Frustrating.

  73. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy that’s the question.
    It’s not all Roman.
    It’s a team effort.
    As I indicated, Harbaugh has input on this too.
    All that concerns me is, did’nt we go through our share of OCs early on with Alex?
    Everyone gave that crutch to Alex.
    It’s always a work in progress.
    Teams catch up to what you do.
    We’ve come up short in the big games sure, but, we’ve been there.

    There’s no easy answer.
    Unless we hire Berger.

  74. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I also remember that someone posted somewhere that our success rate in third and short situations plunged this year… we were pretty decent at first, then fell off the table and were about the worst in the league the second half of the season.

    Does this reflect defensive coaches catching up to us? Have we become too predictable in those situations, with the Jumbo package? All teams tend to fall into tendencies, and defensive coaches look for those tendencies to exploit. Is that what happened, or is there something else I am missing?

    And why is my GD glass empty, Berger? 🙂

  75. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, if we hire Berger, then we can blame him for any losses. Like the barbarians, it *is* a sort of a solution. 🙂

  76. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger we’re not the Bill Walsh 49ers anymore.
    We need tempo in order to do that.
    That’s something we’re lacking.
    It’s a plodding, ball control approach as it stands now.
    Is it Roman?
    Is it Harbaugh?
    Is it as simple as changing the OC?

    Who the heck knows.
    I’d figure Baalke and the rest of the Staff realizes we got stopped in 3 appearances.
    I’d also figure, they’re smart enough to do their own post mortem on what needs to change in order to get over the hump.

    Let’s see what they arrive at, while Berger cannibalizes us for being stupid Fans.

  77. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Berger and NJ. You guys are way more hip and up to date with today’s music than I am. Question: Is Katy Perry any good? I’m watching her now on SNL. She’s won, and is up for awards today.

    do you guys like her music? I couldn’t name one song or recognize her voice.

    Bring back Sinatra! 😀

  78. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    There is a real frustration with being so damned close, and knowing that window can only stay open for *so long* before you lose players. Gore and Justin might be up for their last year in 2014. Willis has slipped just a bit already, if we’re honest. And you never know with injuries – I hope to God NaVorro makes it all the way back, he has been such an amazing player for us, but with such a serious knee injury you never know for sure. You cannot see this team as a failure the last few years, unless you’re Denny or some other reprobate, but there is an urgency to get over the top when you are just short of the summit. 2014 will be an interesting season in a lot of ways.

  79. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s the Million Dollar question Grump.
    Can Roman play chess with the other teams in the NFL?

    I’d say he can, given that we’ve beaten the majority of them to advance as we have the past 3 years.

    Kaep being young and limited in terms of experience is one vital ingredient.
    Hard to say it’s just an OC issue from where I’m looking.
    Maybe he’s spoon-feeding Kaep with the things Kaep can handle?
    Maybe Kaep needs a different approach?

    I’ll leave those decisions to Baalke, Harbaugh and Berger.

  80. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Katy Perry, Dennis?

    She does music?

    Who the eff cares?


    Seriously, her stuff is strictly pop for teens. But she is kind of easy on the eyes.

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Del –
    Katy Perry is not on my radar eiter.
    Sample her stuff on YouTube.
    She’s more of a Pop artist.
    I’m and Old Rock-n-Roll Blues purist.

  82. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    It’s hard to tell if Roman can play chess, with this roster. We can physically overmatch a lot of teams. Are we out-thinking anyone, or are we just beating lesser teams with athleticism?

  83. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    All good points Grump.
    Do you think our team is worse than Seattle’s?
    I don’t.

    We had them down for the majority of the game.
    All things that did us in in the past were corrected, until Kaep got picked and fumbled several times.

    It’s football. Momentum swings and all that.
    If not for some unfortunate calls and, a few bad plays, we’re playing in B2B SBs.

    We were on the outside looking in at the Playoffs for 8+ years, until Baalke got Harbaugh to join the Team.
    Sure, it hurts to get so close and to be denied.

    Given the past, I still think our future has promise.

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Kaep has experienced some the biggest games there are to be played.
    He’s held up pretty damn well.
    He’s also been big enough to realize that he needs to improve.

    I’m sure the entire Organization sees it that way.

    Knowing only what I see and read, we’re a whole lot better off than most teams right now.

  85. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I think the difference in that game was when Lynch started getting untracked for five, six, seven yards a carry in the 4th quarter… and Gore was still getting stuffed.

    Maybe Joe is his prime could put that team on his back and pass his way to a win. This team, not so much – Kappy is good, but still young. He started trying to win the game by himself – and as usually happens in those situations, he lost it.

    If you’re going to play that run-first style… You’d better be able to run when you need to.

    If not, then you’d better have a real passing game as Plan B.

    We’re light years ahead of the wretchedness that was 2005. At least I can watch a game without copious quantities of medicinal tequila now.

    Whether we can put a balanced offense on the field that can win the biggest games, against the toughest opponents, that is the question we’ll be looking at in 2014.

  86. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, how many high Draft Picks are starting on the Seattle OLine?
    They’re doing it with cheaper talent I’m thinking.
    Baalke knew it was a weakness for us when he took over.
    It immediately improved.
    Our DLine, same thing.
    Nolan gets credit for Justin and RayMcD maybe Brooks too?
    It’s never ending in this game.
    Baalke has provided depth, he’ll do the same in the Secondary in May.

    Each year it’s a new beginning. Tinker and explore options, sign and release players.

    For me, it’s all about the GM and HC having a Plan that both agree to and build together.

  87. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m in. I do believe I could do better than Roman. I really do!

  88. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I agree Grump.
    I’m not one for knee-jerk reactions, especially when we took the revolving door approach to OCs when Alex started.

    Had the OLine been better for Alex, maybe he succeeds?
    I put plenty of scrutiny on the OC but, also try to figure that Baalke and Harbaugh have to see what improvements are needed, and where.

    Kaep is a keeper, I’m not about to put him in the loser category simply because he’s lost some big games.
    How many second year QBs would trade places with him in a NY minute?

    Kaep upstaged Cam. In Carolina.
    He’s beaten Aaron, twice in the Playoffs.
    Sure, our D had as much to do with that as anything but, it’s still a team game.

    When Kaep can dissect a D like Peyton, Brady or Brees, we’ll all be laughing at this phase of his development.

  89. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Offensive lines are hard to evaluate. You can look at players individually, but sometimes the whole is more or less than the sum of the parts. Some units just play extraordinarily well together. The 49er lines of the 1980s did not get that much respect individually, but they were awesome units.

    I wonder if we have the opposite situation today – very good players, but not quite gelling somehow into a superior unit.

  90. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I would like to hire Helton, from USC, to replace idiot Roman, the press clipping man. He is a future OC in the NFL, and a future head coach.

  91. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Grump! Reprobate?
    I prefer degenerate gambler. But you’re close. 😀

  92. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Well, Kappy Has already won as many road playoff games in his CAREER as Y. A. Tittle, John Brodie, Joe Montana, Steve Young and Jeff Garcia, COMBINED.

    We have FOUR road playoff wins in franchise history – two by Kappy and two by EVERYONE ELSE.

    So, yeah, you cannot just consider this kid chopped liver…

  93. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- How can you dissect a defense when Roman is your play caller?

  94. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, what is Helton’s pass-run ratio like?

    Can he coexist with Jim Schembechler?

  95. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Degenerate? Yeah, that works, Dennis. 🙂

  96. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Greg Roman has read so many of his press clippings he thinks he is Gods gift to a jumbo running game in any era.

  97. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    We need a very good draft, like the one Baalke had in 2011, and we need Tank and Lattimore to come up big after their ‘Redshirt’ years.

  98. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, is it Roman though, or is it Harbaugh?

    Does Jimbo really want to spread the line, and run with three or four WRs, or does he want to play Schembechler ball?

    If Harbaugh does not want to change, the *next* Roman will be, ‘Meet the new boss, same as the old boss…”

  99. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Take Bullit, NoFear, NJ, Roman, Jimmy Raye, Singletary and group them together, what do you get? Play calling geniuses in their own minds!

  100. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- 12:40AM. You nailed it my friend!

  101. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    If Harbaugh does not want to change, the *next* Roman will be, ‘Meet the new boss, same as the old boss…”

    Post of the year. Bravo.

  102. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    My thing is, I don’t want to get rid of anything. I want to run the spread, I want to run the option, I want the Jumbo once in a while. I want the other team’s DC to have to prepare for everything from Run and Shoot to the Quick Kick.

    I NEVER want again to hear defensive player saying, “We knew what play the 49ers we’re going to run form the way they lined up.”

    Eff that. Singletary was not here to fool anyone. I’m here to lie to every SOB in the world. Unpredictable and undefensible. Balanced, with regards to run and pass, but you’ll never know what is coming next.

    But I just don’t know if Jim Harbaugh wants that style fo football.

  103. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger the point is, as guys like Warner, Montana and Young have shared are, a good QB needs to have the ability to function from the pocket.

    Dissecting a Defense is a a visual and mental ability Kaep has yet to master.
    We don’t know what comes into the huddle.
    We don’t know what the Defense shows on any given play, until they show it.
    I’m assuming that we’re good enough to win more than we lose since Harbaugh arrived since we have been in these games as frequently as we have.

    Again, if you detest Roman as you apparently do, I’m not about to prevent you from having your opinion on that subject.

    I’d suggest a Passing Game Coordinator addition perhaps?
    Many teams utilize a think-tank approach. Maybe Mangini did some good, maybe not.
    At least they tinkered. No doubt, they’ll reconsider some new options this off-season.
    I don’t think Roman is the entire problem.

    Frank won’t play forever. Things evolve.
    Every year brings new questions. It’s up to Baalke and Staff to find those answers.
    We’re just lemmings along for the ride.

    It’s not like the NY Yankees, where you spend Millions every off season and squash the small market teams because you can afford to.

    Again, it’s a Cap vs Talent approach in the NFL.
    Good Coaching factors in very heavily too.

  104. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, the fact that you and I think alike so much in accordance to Grump is a scary proposition. But allow me to be the first to say this, as it pertains to our Niners…

    Three wrongs make a right.

  105. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The only thing I ask for is an offense that doesn’t allow the defense to stack the box to stop us.

  106. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I don’t profess to be a play calling genius.
    You seem to have that angle cornered.

    Again, polish up your resume`, see if Baalke will give you the shot.
    We’re obviously too stupid to have any input in this discussion.

    You have it figured out apparently.
    How could Baalke and Harbaugh be so ignorant?

  107. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe Kaep isn’t ready to operate from a Spread approach?
    Maybe it’s a personnel issue to some extent?
    We don’t know what the Coaches see everyday.

    I will agree with some opinions regarding Kaeps’ touch passes.
    Some have said he throws a flat ball. He’s a fast ball pitcher for sure. So, there’s some credence in that suggestion.
    He’s not a finished product by any means.

    You can call it a Roman issue.
    I can call it a developmental issue as well.

    None of us has an easy fix, including the Coaches and GM who get paid to have those answers.

  108. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- 12:59 post. The best and most accurate post ever! I do honestly believe I could do better than Roman.

  109. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I have easy fixes. That is what frustrates me. Use formations that unload the box, period, end of story. Then call plays that force the QB to be a field general and find the best decision maker. I believe Kap is that QB but the RoBaugh offense does not allow the QB to be that decision maker.

  110. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Just as Kaep utilized his legs to beat GB last year in the Playoff game, Roman attempted to utilize his legs against Seattle this time around.
    To me, that suggests a creative thinker.
    It’s been said many times, our OLine is not built to execute screens very well.
    Roman did introduce a TE Screen later in the Season as VMcD got more involved.

    My guess is, they tinker all week, all year, in practice.
    Those plays that get executed better get added to the repertoire on game days.

    Do we rely too much on the Jumbo?
    Sure we do.
    Until we perfect other options, maybe, just maybe, Roman doesn’t feel comfortable utilizing those plays in big moments.
    Neither Boldin nor Crabtree are speed guys.
    Vernon is our only deep threat right now.
    We’ll see what Baalke shops for in May.
    No doubt he’ll add some new options via the Draft.

  111. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    One thing a heavy run game allows, when it works, is clock grinding, Defense weakening impact.
    Our DLine rotation was a weakness last year.
    Baalke brought in more depth.
    Where would we have been this year without Skuta and Wilhoite?

    It’s not a quick fix issue IMO.
    We’re getting younger in key positions, older in others.
    I have trust in what Baalke sees of this Roster.
    Could we improve in the passing game?

    Let’s see what the answers are between now and the next matchup.
    Jury is out on Lattimore, Tank and Dial.
    Secondary is in for changes too.
    Is Frank a Cap casualty?
    Maybe Lattimore offers some upside, who knows at this point?

    Back to the Drawing Board, time to tinker again.
    Reload, recharge, re-tool.

  112. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s one from an ol’ stat reader:

    Games won in the past three years:

    #1 SF 49ers. 41 and a tie.

    #2 NE Patriots. 41

    We’ve managed to best every team, built for offense whether heavy on the spread, the no-huddle or anything else you say is the only way to win. Even one with an experienced HOF QB running it and one of the best HCs coaching it.

    Agree with Roman’s style of offense or not, saying he’s an idiot and folks that don’t think he’s the worst play caller in the business are stupid says more about the ranter than the rantees.

    As some fool once wrote, “Winning is the only thing that matters.”

    As far as your spread offense. Speed kills. Speed on defense kills the spread. This ain’t college ball. Run as a base, it’s a sure way to get our QB killed.

  113. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey NoFear49er –
    It’s just another chapter of Berger knows best.
    The rest of us are just stupid apparently.

    I’m sure you’ve followed the banter here tonight, ad naseum.
    Some of us are more patient than others no doubt.

    My analogy to building The Beast, simply put, means there’s always another ingredient to add to the mix until you win it all.

    Whether it’s Roman, Harbaugh or whomever, it’s always about maintaining talent and, Coaching that talent into a well oiled machine.
    Given where we’ve come from in the past decade, I’ll defer to the GM and HC, who’ve managed to repeat 3 consecutive Playoff appearances since acquiring the current Staff.
    SF football is once again an enjoyable product.

    We could be doing a whole lot worse.

  114. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I love it when the Smith haters use the old, ‘it’s all about the wins’ defense. The same defense for Alex they didn’t want to hear anymore.

    For me it’s about the Super Bowl wins at this point. We have the talent except for the play caller. RoBaugh’s play calling works just fine against weaker teams. Enter the play-offs and meet the brick wall. I’m not wanting more passing, I want a smarter running game. While we are at it, how about a smarter passing game too.

  115. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- You guys aren’t dumb. I think the issue is you just don’t seem to see how important play design and play calling is. It’s like some of you think the key is drafting better players and throw them on the field and any coach can call plays.

  116. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    What is Roman’s title? Run OC? That’s a giveaway there. While the run game is fairly sophisticated, it doesn’t appear that our passing game is. This team always struggles to get untracked against good defenses. Slow starts and usually strong finishes. Whatever. Roman ain’t going anywhere so we’re running down this path in 2014. What I don’t get is the lack of spreading the ball around. 3 guys get 95% of the catches. That can be a scheme problem, or a comfort problem for Kappy. Hard to tell, but you do hear of guys getting open a lot and not thrown to. Part of the maturation process I suppose.

    My point in dealing with Bullitt’s assertions that Kappy shouldn’t get an extension is the fact that Kaepernick will likely leave after this season without an extension. Say this season goes south for whatever reason. What is keeping him here? There WILL be another team ready to break the bank to get a QB of his caliber.

    You don’t want to throw ‘elite’ money at him yet? Someone will. My point entirely. If we don’t extend him this season, I give him about a 70% chance of leaving.

    And Dennis, you were banned from my site for your racist comments. Much like I banned all the other clowns doing that shit.

  117. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You forgot Super Bowl wins on that list, NoFear. As in 0.

  118. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And my biggest problem with the play calling is the red zone offense. This team is very conservative inside the 10. It took until the Carolina game to throw out of the jumbo down close. And we ran once in a 3 WR set! Wow. 18 weeks to adjust.

    Early in games is even worse. How many early-game 6-0 leads were erased by opposing TDs?

  119. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You are correct that I disagree with you on this.
    In Bill Walsh’s first 2 years as coach of the Niners they went 8-24. The team only got better because they drafted well.
    Walsh was calling the same plays in his first 2 years. the guys on the field couldn’t execute and make it happen.
    Steve DeBerg would always make the big mistake in the 4th quarter to lose the game.
    Pretty evident to me that you have to have the better talent to succeed in the NFL. You might want to rethink this one.

  120. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    If next season does go south and it’s due to Kap not improving why would you give him a big contract?
    This the the Matt Flynn or Matt Schaub scenario all over.
    My whole point is Kap has to earn his contract. He does that by improving his play. You just want to pay him because you think he’s going to walk. If he doesn’t improve and wants that big contract I let him walk. We did it with Goldson and actually got better. The caveat to my position is if Kap doesn’t show any growth or improvement. I don’t believe in rewarding mediocrity.
    If I were you I’d stop talking about McCoy as an alternative.
    He will be a FA next month so only include him in the scenario if they re-sign him.

  121. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners were in the middle of the pack when it came to RED Zone Offense in 2013. They actually improved ever so slightly over 2012.

  122. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Talk about hyperbole? Boldin, Vernon Davis and Crabtree actually caught 64.197% of Kap’s completions and not the 95% you’re asserting.

  123. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, it IS true though that Walsh had an immediate impact in 1979. That team set some passing records and was watchable, unlike the absolutely wretched 1978 team. It did not translate to an improvement in record… but that is misleading. The 1979 team was a ‘pretty good’ 2-14 team, if you can buy into that humorous statement – they were competitive in most of their games, on offense, at least, and usually lost because the defense put the team into holes at the end, and DeBerg could not close the deal or come back from behind. The 1978 team just got blown out most of the time, and probably was not as good as their record.

    In 1980 injuries and defensive ineptitude let us down.

    So I would say that play calling makes a difference – but you have to have the players, too. Either / or will not get it done, most of the time.

  124. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger who among us doesn’t want SB wins?
    Until Harbaugh got hired, we all would have settled for Playoff appearances.
    Harbaugh and Roman have righted the ship and, made us relevant once again.
    We’re also grooming a young QB in that process.
    Is there room for improvement? Of course.
    Are we bottom feeders anymore? Hardly.

    When you come out and call people stupid, you can’t water it down by suggesting we are aren’t dumb.
    We have our opinions.
    You, yours.

    It’s not a sign of intellect necessarily, or lack of it, if our opinions differ from your own.

    To each, his own.

  125. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners TD success % in the RZ dropped a full 10% in post-bye vs. pre-bye games. I went through every drive of the season and posted that stat on Chuck’s.
    The second half success rate was 44%. I didn’t calculate any other teams by half season, but for the full season only the Bills tallied less than 44%, and not by much.

  126. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Imagine Kappy on the Cards. Now make him an offer he can’t refuse.

  127. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As an Organization, I can’t imagine that Baalke,Harbaugh or Roman, are any less dissatisfied about these results than we are.
    It’s all about getting it right.

    Let’s see what they identify and, where they seek to correct the deficiencies, over the next few months.
    Could be as simple as adding WRs.
    For me, Kaep is still attempting to master the position too.

  128. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    RT, I see Kap as a permanent fixture in SF for years to come.
    No doubt in my mind that Baalke and Marathe are going to do whatever is necessary, to secure him to a long term deal.

    It also goes without saying that our RZ stats are mediocre.
    Opinions will vary as to whether it’s play calling,field vision or execution, from Kaep on that topic.
    It’s all about improving year to year.
    In that regard, our RZ Offense certainly needs a shot in the arm.

  129. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I called myself stupid too. Quit being so sensitive. I think I called almost everybody stupid! The good news is we got NoFear to make an appearance!

  130. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- When Walsh got here his play calling created a good offense with the existing players. On defense you have to have the talent or a good opposing play caller will expose the weakness. We didn’t start winning until we stopped the other teams from scoring so often. You might want to rethink that.

    Going into the 81 season we added 4 DBs from the draft, 3 of them started. We added Hacksaw and then Fred Dean. I don’t really remember adding any significant player on offense. And I would say that was not a great offensive line and we had a different starting RB every week. Walsh’s play calling made a huge difference.

  131. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Last thing I am is sensitive Berger.
    Just making a point.

    Calling people stupid for having an opinion IS stupid.

    Lighten up.
    We all want the Lombardi.
    Yeh, it sucks to get so close and miss but, we’ve shown enough these past 3 years to prove, we aren’t too far off the mark.

    I’m not one to throw the baby out with the dirty bath water.
    Baalke and Harbaugh have some work to do.
    Let’s see what they come up with.

  132. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    It’s Reno, NJ. Consider the source! Reno’s targeted me, too, as I have him. He takes it as well as he dishes it out.
    Just play him some Joe Bonamassa and soothe the savage b(r)east.

  133. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- Yeah! That’s right! LOL

  134. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    One thing I would like to see is, a short WCO-based, Short Passing game.
    That is something Kaep should benefit from, especially since everyone keys on him to run.
    Roll and dump off.

    Whether it’s on Roman or, Kaep developing more touch, we would certainly benefit from shorter crossing routes.
    Patton and a reliable Slot guy, perhaps to be selected from the Draft, could offer some new options this Fall.

    We don’t work the Middle very much at all, particularly the short-intermediate stuff.
    Because Kaep has such a strong arm, they seem to favor the outside stuff.

    His bag of tricks has some holes.
    It will improve.

  135. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I was drinking and blogging and having too much fun! That is why I called myself stupid, I was drinking.

  136. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I take no offense RT.
    It’s Berger.
    Nothing wrong with a good debate.

    I’m far from thin-skinned.
    It’s an etiquette thing.
    Bring your debate, leave the aspersions behind.

    It’s all good, we’re all rabid about our 9ers.

  137. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I get it Berger.
    Drinking and blogging can be hazardous to your reputation.

  138. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Good luck with your new career as the new Niner play caller.

    Making a statement like that would lead to someone calling you…
    Oh Nevermind!

  139. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    My reputation is already bad. I’m one of the very few who want Roman gone. Most of you think he is a genius because of our won loss record. My opinion of Roman has made me a 49ers outsider. Oh wait, we’re all 49ers outsiders here!

  140. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    See Riley Cooper, as in Philly Eagles WR.
    Sometimes words aren’t so easy to swallow, drinking or not.

  141. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- It comes with the territory.

    NJ- I am relaxed, and smiling. I’m even laughing a little!

  142. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I wouldn’t refer to Roman as a genius by any stretch.
    He’s got his shortcomings.

    All I’m suggesting is,he’s miles ahead of where we’d been, for the past how many years?
    3 straight years in the Final Four is pretty damn good in my book.

    Genius comes when you’re winning the SB a time or 2.

  143. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I don’t use the word Riley Cooper used. I’d be more worried about backing Roman’s play calling. That could paint a person as not paying attention at best.

  144. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Roman calls plays? I thought Kappy drew ’em up on the turf in the huddle. “Look, you guys just go deep. Frank, I’ll give it to you, and you just go wherever Bruce goes. Bruce, you follow Mike.”

  145. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT- That was good because that is sure what it often seems like.

  146. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger it’s not about the word Riley used, just the fact that things said, or written while drinking, can come back to bite you.
    We’re among friends here, it would be nice to keep it friendly is all.
    Treat others…..

  147. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Treat others as you would want to be treated? Well, since I called myself stupid that means I was treating all of you as I was treating myself! I think you know I don’t consider me or any of you stupid. I was on a roll! Laughing and a joking and feelin’ alright! That is a ZZ Top line. I was feeling nationwide:

  148. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I agree with NJ (no surprise to Berger)
    I just remember the dark days before Harbaugh when you could turn the TV off at halftime.
    Watching the Niners was difficult and when they let you down you felt so dumb that you made it a priority.
    Denny calls me the company man but I appreciate being relevant again and don’t take that for granted.
    Walsh coached for 10 years and won only 3 Super Bowls. As great as he was it was no easy task and he took it to the limit and it tore him up. No matter how great the coach, the playcalling, the players, injuries and sometimes dumb luck if the officials don’t screw you, a lot of things have to line up right for a team to win it all. Winning the Lombardi Trophy is definitely a great achievement if you survive all the pitfalls.
    I appreciate every one of the five the Niners have.
    Harbaugh gives us our beat chance in a decade to fight for #6 and I appreciate that as a Niner fan.

  149. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    beat chance should read best chance.

  150. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That about sums it up Bullit.
    Football in SF is fun again.

    It was extremely painful to watch disorganized football after all the years of success.

    Being brutally honest, Pre-Cap 9er football was a whole lot easier than Post-Cap 9er football too.

    Not only does the team have to manage salaries, there is a whole lot more pressure on the GM to Draft younger cheaper talent to offset the higher priced Vets.
    Quite the challenge.
    Smaller windows to succeed in as well.

    All in all, we’re relevant and, playing at a much higher level since Jed took control away from Dr York.
    I’d even give some of that credit to Uncle Eddie as well, since he and Jed have some history together.

    Much to be happy about, even if we haven’t grabbed Lombardi #6 just yet.

  151. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    IMO, there’s a lot to be said for guys like Marathe too.
    In today’s NFL, a good GM,Draft Picks and Salary Cap Mgt, are as vital to the success of a team, as a HC and productive players.

    Considering where we’ve been in recent years, Salary Cap issues can cripple you if, the Roster isn’t managed properly.

    Given our consternations with play calling etc, some teams can’t get out of their own way, due to mismanagement at the front office levels. (Jerruh).

    We’re a whole lot better off than most at this point.
    Case in point, Anquan Boldin, for a 6th Rd pick, because Baltimore couldn’t retain him in favor of paying Flacco.

    Things could be a whole lot worse.

  152. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Just look across the bay at the Raiduhs as a team that doesn’t get it.
    We were in the same boat wallowing around without a clue a few years back under Erickson and Donahue.
    Jed York does deserve a lot of credit by changing back to a winning culture and doing what it takes. Building a new stadium was a major accomplishment.
    The Raiduhs can’t decide on a coach, a QB, they want a new stadium but are stuck in the old one, they are tarping off the third deck so they won’t have TV blackouts, they make horrendous choices when drafting and they just expect to lose.
    Things are not improving there and when there is no hope their fans stop caring.

  153. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t have to look far over here either.
    Tannenbaum and the NYJ are a joke too.

    Perfect example of a GM who was clueless.
    He handcuffed them with guaranteed Contracts, poor Drafting and, a media circus that just keeps on giving.

    Yes, we’re nowhere near as bad as some other Organizations, thankfully.

  154. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    A couple of new items.
    Patrick Willis had surgery on his thumb and is now in a cast.
    Willis has had various hand injuries through the years.
    Ravens will choose their OC tomorrow.
    It’ll between Kyle Shanahan and Jim Hostler, yes that Jim Hostler. Hostler should do wonders with Joe Flacco and his
    $20 mil contract.
    There is redemption for guys you never thought would get another top spot like Trestman and possibly Hostler.

  155. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Add to that thought, nobody seems willing to take on the vacant Miami Dolphins GM position either.
    Another situation where a clueless owner meddles with team success perhaps?

    I wouldn’t have minded SF giving some consideration to Marty Morhinweg for the OC position prior to him joining the J-E-S-T Yuk, yuk, yuks.

    But, it’s probably taboo to speak OC and SF in the same sentence around these parts.

  156. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    My ideal first 5 rounds of upcoming draft for Niners (sure to be revised)
    Rd 1 Allen Robinson WR Penn St
    Rd 2 Zach Mettenberger QB LSU
    Rd 2 Kyle Van Noy OLB BYU or Micahel Sam OLB Mizzou
    Rd 3 Keith McGill CB Utah
    Rd 3 Donte Moncrief WR Ole Miss
    Rd 3 Jaylen Watkins CB/S Fla
    Rd 4 Tyler Larsen C Utah St
    RD 5 Michael Schofield OT Michigan

  157. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    12th Man was never an original idea by the Seahags.
    They stole it from Texas A&M and now it is revealed they paid
    TAMU $100K in 2006 and continue to pay $5k yearly to use that moniker. Nothing original about it.

  158. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I can predict a Draft Order but, that’s a decent attempt Bullit.
    I’m on the fence as to where Robinson will land.
    I do like him, not so sure he goes that high.

    Moncrief is also on my radar, along with Matthews, Beckham and Davante Adams, among others.
    My list is rather extensive at this point.
    Combines times will help me chisel it down.

    Love Michael Sam at the OLB position as well.
    Also liked what I saw from the Senior Bowl, Christian Kirksey/Christian Jones as potential OLB options.

    Agree on Larsen too. Another on my radar is Travis Swanson, possibly Richburg.
    Again, Combines will help me there.

    I’m assuming we’ll miss out on Marqise Lee and Kelvin Benjamin as well.
    I’m curious whether Rutgers WR Brandon Coleman could be Kelvin-Light?
    Another big target with some upside. Again, speed concerns me. Combine participant? I’d like to see how he fairs if invited.
    Only caught small samplings of his time here at RU.

    CBs/SSs are wide open on my list also, since I have no clue where to slot them.
    CB Ross Cockrell from Duke looks good, Mid Rds?
    Plenty more from the group too.

    SS isn’t a strong field, Deone Bucannon and Jamea Thomas are in the mix, along with several others.

    I’m checking into many Bio’s, I’ll keep at it. Lots of time to burn.

  159. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Meant to say, I CAN’T predict a Draft Order.
    I simply stack an imaginary Board at several positions where we would seem to be shopping.
    Long way off for me.

  160. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    A kid I’d really love to get is Scott Crichton from Oregon St.
    Declared early, primarily used at DE there.
    Some have suggested that he’s athletic enough to make the transition to OLB.
    I’d consider Sam and Crichton 1/1A at this point until we see some field work from Crichton.

    This is another area, where the ‘Tweeners’ with athleticism, can convert from DE to OLB in the 3-4.

    I’m also considering which of the better tackling CBs can transition to SS for us.
    Several of those ‘slower CBs’ could make that move I think.

    My work continues….

  161. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Another CB I’d consider for the SS move is EJ Gaines –
    Tackles well and runs better than most.
    About equal in size to Donte.

  162. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, get a look at DT Aaron Donald from Pitt –

    Quite undersized but, not vastly different from Glenn Dorsey, size wise.

    Not sure he’d hold the point as Dorsey does however, he’s a terror to contain.
    Probably projects to more of 3T in a 4-3?
    Busy kid though.
    Small and very much a penetrator, hard to contain him.

    I’m curious…
    He gets TFL and, produced in the Sack category.

  163. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17