Good Cop, Bad Cop

The 2015 Draft is mercifully concluded and we can forget about all these fellows who have been cluttering up the airways and computer monitors these past few months with their upsides, potential, downsides, measureables, and all sorts of what-not data. Good luck plebes, we’ll dissect your worth in a year or two, unless you’re a complete bust or instant star.

None of the 49er draftees will fall into the instant star category. Oh, no, not us. Instead, they’ll be lounging in the “upside” and “potential” rooms.

Meanwhile, we bloggers have three barren months to impregnate with our witty, distorted, rancorous, incisive, semi-coherent intercourse. Are we up for it? We shall see.

For readers that don’t follow along in the “comments” section, let me point out the newest addition to the site, the box in the right column entitled “The Harbaugh Scoreboard,” where we’ll be keeping track of the fate of the players and coaches who have been booted out of the building over the past three years by Jed York and Trent Baalke. Hopefully, this will help provide some entertainment this coming season, to help alleviate having to watch the team itself as it plunges back into the mediocrity of the pre-Harbaugh years.

Avid readers of detective stories know the correct way to solve a crime. Bad cops/detectives decide who they think is guilty, then set about finding evidence that supports their conclusion. Good cops/detectives keep an open mind, focus on the evidence, and follow it to where it leads.

This explains the difference between the anti-Harbaugh fans (bad cops) and the anti-York fans (good cops). Anti-Harbaughonians have a player comment here, a Deion Sanders rant there, and not much else. But nobody could have made Jay Glazer 100% sure in pre-season that Jim Harbaugh would be terminated at the end of the year except Harbaugh’s employer — Jed York. Which makes everything York has said since nothing but gutless lies and complete horseshit. What self-respecting fan could root for an owner like that? A guy who sabotaged his own team throughout the 2014 season.

The anti-Harbaugh fans are now taking their poor sleuthing methods to hysterical extremes, a typical reaction to being fundamentally wrong and unable to admit it. They think the new season will be great and the new offensive coordinator will drastically improve the offense. Never mind that the new OC presided over the worst record in San Diego history (1-15) in 2000, with their 1,062 total team rushing yards (66.4 per game) being the fewest number of rushing yards by any team in NFL history in a 16-game season.

That was 15 years ago and was the last time anybody gave the reins to Geep Chryst. Somehow, in the intervening years of shuffling around the league doing almost nothing noteworthy, this fellow has the anti-Harbaugh crowd expecting big things this year.

What could possibly lead anyone to think Chryst is going to accomplish great things this year? I mean, SERIOUSLY?

But that’s how bad cops work. They conclude things will be great, then look for evidence to support that view. From what I can see, after more than three months of looking, they have yet to find even one shred of evidence that Chryst has anything to offer whatsoever. Zippo. Nada.

But, hey, root away, feel gooders. While you can. We’ll have a box of Kleenex on hand for you when the inevitable day of awful enlightenment arrives.

OTOH, those of you hoping to get back into the top ten in the Draft next year, Geep is the right guy for the job.

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220 comments on “Good Cop, Bad Cop
  1. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs I’d recast your analogy another way, if I may?

    Good cops/ bad cops are nothing more than optimists and pessimists.

    Agree about Geep and Jed however.
    No expectations for me, on either of those 2.

    Simply hoping Logan has some positive influence on Kaep and Geep.

    I will continue to Pray as well, that Jed stays out of the way in terms of meddling in areas of team personnel.

    Baalke is the team’s Executive.
    Don’t need to see Jed playing the part of Jerruh in SF.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You make some good points that hit the nail on the head.

    Deion Sanders had to disavow his “source” wss Crabtree which led some crackpots to conclude that it was indeed Crabtree.
    The crackpots wlll believe what they want to hear but refuse to abide with Deion swearing that it wasn’t Crabtree.

    The apologists sometimes forget who the OC is looking forward to what Logan wlll add to the offense forgetting he’s the QB coach and out of football for 4 years making a living on radio.
    FYI Chryst is the OC serving under Roman and Harbaugh.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    My point is it depends on how the hierarchy of the offense is structured.
    With Harbaugh/Roman and their 4 years you rarely heard the name Geep Chryst and I would surmise there are many here who couldn’t name him as the QB coach.

    As a Niner fan I hope for the best but I don’t need Jed York to tell me how the coaching staff is improved when it’s composed of leftovers.

    Sadly for the Niners Jed/Trent were rebuffed by a lot of good coaches out there that went elsewhere. There is a coaching grapevine and it seems nobody is buying what Jed is selling.
    Jed could have had Gase as his head coach but the deal breaker was insisting Tomsula be the DC. The word was Fangio was going to stay as DC if Gase was the head coach. Looking back I could have lived with that scenario but Jed had to meddle and find a better job for Tomsula and insist he be the DC and that was a deal breaker. Then in a move reserved for the most clueless
    the OC position is offered to Gase and Jed/Trent get the finger.
    No decent coach will come aboard with all the strings that Jed has attached. A decent coach will want to hire his own staff, not having the owner insist that his guy be the defensive coordinator.

  4. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – I don’t think Crabtree was Deion’s source. Crabtree said two things during Deion’s assault on Harbaugh. Crabtree tweeted, “I don’t know what you’re referring to, but we’re good here,” and he also to reporters that Harbaugh was one of the best coaches he’d ever been around. It’s easy to jump to conclusions that Crabtree was Deion’s source because they were close during Crabtree’s holdout his rookie year. But there’s no evidence Crabtree was the source, or any evidence, for that matter the source was a player. I think the source was the owner. If it was a player, the source was LaMicheal James who was cut only days after the initial report.

  5. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    told* I still need an editor.

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I am sure that when Deion said what he said Crabtree was on the phone saying WTF Deion? That led to the denial by Deion that Crabtree was the source because it’s too obvious.

    In 2013 Crabtree could’ve sat out the season and collected his salary rehabbing his torn Achilles. Instead he came back ahead of schedule, so “undivalike” and helped a floundering passing game that had a mere 48 yds net passing against the Panthers and 118 yds against the Aints. None of Crabtree’s detractors will give him credit for coming back early to help the team.
    Haters will hate.

    Stay tuned haters, you have no idea how many first downs Crabtree helped gain to keep drives going. Hopefully they find
    someone to go to on 3rdv down when Boldin is taken away.

    When Crabtree was hurt in 2013 is when the passing game was really anemic. Manningham was a shell of what he used to be and Kyle Williams proved he was not a NFL receiver. Take away Boldin and Vernon and the Niner pass offense was dead in the water.

    So Crabtree will no longer be around to move the chains and we shall see how important he has been to the team.

  7. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    I agree. Crabtree was important to this offense than people think, but he hasn’t been the same player since the injury. Could have been the poor O line play last year, though.

  8. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    more* Editor!!!

  9. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Exactly Bullit.
    Given the job Baalke is assigned to do, Jed concerns me in that vain.

    I wonder what the attachment has been to Tomsula.
    NFLE perhaps?

    Dr Daddy is strongly aligned there.

    Again, I’m simply asking, if not Praying, that Jed doesn’t interfere with what Baalke is entrusted to do.
    Personnel is tough enough to acquire.
    An Owner, like Snyder for example, who dictates policy to the GM, simply sabotages the entire effort.

    2 guys that frost my berries in this League are Snyder and Jerruh.

    Jerruh thinks he’s a GM.
    Snyder uses his GM as a puppet.

  10. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Niners are shitting twinks over the D. Per NN seems Fangio overacheived and Baalke not taking any chances. DLine drives the D and even with the development wait that Farmstead had to be taken. O just has to wait. WR1 in 2016 1st RD unless a batter QB than Colin.

  11. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s not forget the sudden and extreme lowering of the bar for what makes a good head coach or one that needs to be dumped before his contract expires.

    All those ex-spurts chanting the Super Bowl win is all that matters in a season are now fumbling around to find another go-to line.

    “8-8 will be good.” “Even less than 8-8 is fine as long as we compete.” “Just show me some WCO.”

    I guess these guys forget that Harbaugh, Nolan and Jimmy Raye wanted to bring back the WCO offense. Guess what? That offense needs a WCO QB to work.

    It’s like firing Walsh for his 3-6 strike year record and hoping his replacement can do as good.

  12. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Bakkentom one area I’m pretty comfortable with regarding Tomsula is the DLine.

    He’s worked magic there with several UDFAs.

    Dockette came over primarily bc of Tomsula.
    Hayne and Okoye followed him as well.

    IMO, there’s a distinct Marketing approach between NFLE & the NFL to some degree.

    Add Dr Daddy to the mix and maybe there’s a connection?

    All I’m asking for from this season is a competitive effort.

    Very few teams undergoing this magnitude of changes is going to be favored to overchieve.

    Kaep is Harbaughs’ guy.

    Let’s hope he’s capable of producing anything close to what Luck did at Stanford.

  13. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Add to that, our schedule is brutal.

    Easy to be a Pessimist, all things considered.

    I’m simply remaining an Optimist because I’m a fan.

  14. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Geep-ers creepers, what a Yawner. Have fun keeping track of crabtree’s, culliver’s and cox’s stats. Sounds like a barrel of laughs. I still don’t know why anyone would name their kid Geep though.

  15. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    LMFAO Winder 😀
    Not sure what the origin is that Chryst is derived from tho?

  16. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    If we’re Drafting in the top 10 next year, so be it.
    That’s how teams like Chicago and Oakland land guys like KWhite & Amari Cooper.

    All I’m asking for is signs of effort.

    Some indications that we’re not dysfunctional would be a blessing.

  17. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Guys like Boone, Brooks and, Vernon concern me.

    If they’re here and, committed to playing their collective asses off, I’m fine with that.

  18. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – “It’s like firing Walsh for his 3-6 strike year record and hoping his replacement can do as good.”

    That about sums it up for me….. You do that and you alienate fans.

    I might just end up being a Bears / Chargers /Raiders fan. Family and friends have recently told me I can’t be a Seahawks fan… which is a bummer because I really like Pete Carroll but they have a point. It’s a little too extreme even for the master of extremes, Sir Spitblood of Geneoushire.

  19. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    That was Walsh’s 4th year as HC. Obviously, the league had caught up to him and he was heading downhill.

  20. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve figured it out: I can’t be a Charger and Raider fan. I’m going to be a Charger fan in the AFC (because I love Rivers), a Bears fan in the NFC until Fangio leaves (which will be tough because I hate Cutler), and Michigan fan until Harbaugh leaves, and will hate the 49ers until Jed York is impeached…. impeached with extreme prejudice (and by impeached I mean removed as the owner).

  21. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, I think Petey caught up with Harbaugh too.

  22. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Sherman in the NFCCG regarding Crabtree?

    “We knew what was coming.”

  23. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks, NJ, that’s a perfect example of bad cop thinking. Excellent.

  24. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – You’re an idiot. Pete caught-up with Harbaugh because Baalke wasn’t putting bullets in Harbaugh’s gun while Snyder and McCloughan were keeping Carroll’s gun loaded. It’s easy to “catch up” to a coach when you’ve got players and he doesn’t. Vance McDonald? La Micheal James? AJ Jenkins? Dumping Delanie Walker and Randy Moss for Stevie Johnson and Brandon Lloyd?

    It’s typical that the Baalke apologists like NJ won’t recognize that Baalke gave Harbaugh nothing offensively. According to NJ Baalke isn’t at all responsible for 8-8 last year…. even though Baalke loves drafting injury-prone players.

  25. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, KC also knew what was coming by keying off the formations of brainless Jimmy Raye. Their LB was calling out the play and laughing as Alex took the snap. Offense is harder to coach and play calling. Guido goes back to DLine at end of season and get an O coach this time. Should be easy with a top ten pick.

  26. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear, you forgot what will be a continuous drum beat from the bad cops this year: “Harbaugh couldn’t have done any better with the roster we have.”

  27. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Jesus. Can the whining get any louder? No.

    Do all these issues with the team go away if St. Jim the Perfect stays here? Does Crabs stay? Certainly not. Neither do Cox or Cully. Willis doesn’t majically heal up, and Borland doesn’t think hmmm, i’ll give my head to St. Jim, but not to Goober? Please tell me you guys aren’t serious about that shit. Because this is bordering on stupidity of the highest order.

    Is the draft completely different with St Jim here? Probably not, as this was a bone of contention when he WAS here. I guess. I mean, they didn’t talk, right? Oh, no. It was Rainbow Candyland with Trent and Jim. It was Jed that was the evil one. Right? He broke up the band.

    If St. Jim the Perfect DOES stay, we have a proven shitty offense and a retooled defense. St. Jim the Obstinate fell on his sword for Roman. His brother showed him the way 2 years earlier. He didn’t follow suit, and if you can’t see that Harbaugh relied on his defense during his time here, you aren’t playing attention. He played the Nolan game. Safe games that he kept close and won in the end. Nolan did the same thing but he couldn’t close the deal.

    The difference between this year and last? The defense didn’t hold leads. They couldn’t hold leads because they were decimated by injuries, and the offense was in 3 and out mode. No matter how big a first half lead was built, the offense stuttered and sputtered as teams adjusted to us, but we couldn’t follow suit.

    The Harbaugh Scoreboard? Are you mental? Alex Smith and the Chiefs? Really? Might as well throw Grbac and Bono in there.

    Don’t come too hard when St. Jim the Immaculate wins his first against Southwest North Dakota State.

    What’s funny is NoFear says it’s like firing Walsh for 3-6?

    Hmnmm. Let’s spot the trend here. Don’t worry, I’ll hold your hands.

    By 1982 Walsh took a horrible team to a super Bowl victory in 3 seasons. The strike didn’t screw things up at all (make sure your sarcasm detectors are on) that season.

    Harbaugh took a stacked team to a Super Bowl loss in 4 seasons. Is anyone in Denver begrudging them firing Fox?

    If Walsh coached the team in the same time period as St. Jim the Obdurate, he would have at the least, 2 rings, if not 3. NOT 0, so please don’t even put the 2 in the same sentence. It’s more inanity.

  28. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    In the NFC Championship game, where NJ the idiot probably points to the exact point where Carroll “caught up to Harbaugh, offensively,” the 49ers’ offensive attack consisted of Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Boldin and Colin Kaepernick. McCloughan and Nolan drafted Gore and Davis. Harbaugh drafted Colin Kaepernick. So who exactly, moron NJ, did Baalke bring to the offensive table (or has he) in the now six years or so Baalke’s been the 49ers’ GM? Boldin? Through a trade? That’s about right. Baalke can only trade for or acquire proven NFL offensive talent because he can’t draft ’em or find ’em himself… and that killed the 49ers in the NFC Championship game.

    Carroll caught up to Harbaugh offensively…. my ass. Baalke sucks as an offensive talent evaluator.

  29. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spitblood, that’s okay. I think most of the Bears’ fans hate Cutler.

    NJ49er, is that the game that was 10-3 SF at the half and 17-13 SF going into the fourth quarter? One play off a Kaepernick INT in the fourth quarter is what lost the game. If that’s what they can manage knowing what’s coming they should give the Lombardi back.

    This just in, Sherman’s full of shit!

  30. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yes, I did forget to mention that. There was a distracting droning in the air.

  31. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That was your vibrator, NoFear.

  32. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    See, NoFear… you let that distracting droning in the air take you off your game. You’re better than that. Focus. Aim small, miss small.

  33. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Belt-fed, point and shoot.

  34. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Watch as we ignore him and he melts away like the wicked witch in Wizard of Oz….. melting… melting…. Pathetic.

  35. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right. the king and Queen of Blogland. NoFear pussies out when Alex oges 13-3, only to return when the Niners lose in the playoffs.

    Spitty, master of 2,000 names has been ignored from here to Denver.

    Carry on tweedle-dee and tweedle-dick.

    And yeah, Spitty, thanks for noticing that facts throw ol’ NoFear off his game. Just like Obama does.

  36. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Belt-fed? More like breast-fed. Such big talk from a keyboard jockey.

  37. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Better yet, how about you start a blog, Spitty?

    Actually it should be NoFear. Call it Paper Tiger and the Dipsticks.

  38. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – what I want to know is are you still a Kaep fan or not? I acknowledge he messed-up last year and have very little doubt in my mind next year he’ll be worse (due to zero smart support), but were you a Kaep fan before 2014?

  39. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I think Geep wsa named after the lovable cartoon character. No bull, I met a guy once whose mother’s favorite TV show was Gunsmoke. His name? Festus. Needless to say, he went by his initials.

    “In the August 9, 1936, strip, headlined ‘Wha’s a Jeep?’ Popeye asks Professor Brainstine what exactly a Jeep is. He gets the following response:

    ‘A Jeep is an animal living in a three dimensional world—in this case our world—but really belonging to a fourth dimensional world. Here’s what happened. A number of Jeep life cells were somehow forced through the dimensional barrier into our world. They combined at a favorable time with free life cells of the African Hooey Hound. The electrical vibrations of the Hooey Hound cell and the foreign cell were the same. They were kindred cells. In fact, all things are, to some extent, relative, whether they be of this or some other world, now you see. The extremely favorable conditions of germination in Africa caused a fusion of these life cells. So the uniting of kindred cells caused a transmutation. The result, a mysterious strange animal.’

    When asked if he had any further questions, Popeye, totally unenlightened by this explanation, repeated, ‘Wha’s a Jeep?'”

    The cartoon character was later more easily represented by a dog. Maybe she named the kid after The Army’s Willy’s MB?

  40. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Best case scenario for Kaep is next year he’s Baalke and York’s scapegoat and he’s not re-signed, then hits the open market and is smart about selecting his next team. Otherwise, he’ll get the Alex Smith treatment in SF … years of no support, and fans screaming for his head.

  41. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs I’m an Optimist, not an apologist.
    Baalke hung his hat in a pretty solid roster and a pretty solid College Coach.

    Baalke didn’t have a hand in the playcalling as I’d see it.

    If Sherman suggested he knew what was coming, I’d venture to think Baalke has nothing to do with it.

  42. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Spit do me favor, moron.
    Get a taste of reality.
    You’re a clueless dimwit with a superiority complex, among other things.

    Harbaugh chose Kaep.
    Not Baalke.

    So if Kaep fails to deliver the goods you’re already hedging your bias.

    You want a blind squirrel?
    He owns the franchise in Dallas.

  43. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – If you have offensive players who’ve been in the league for years like Vernon, Frank and Boldin, you know what’s coming because the scouting has been done and done. If there’s no new offensive blood, there are few surprises. I admit, different plays can be called for older players, but coaches coach to strengths. Vernon runs the seem. Boldin breaks tackles. Frank squeezes through cracks. The only one surprising us in the NFC Championship game was the youngest offensive talent, Colin Kaepernick who made some horrid plays and so damn good ones. You want offensive creativity? Continue bringing in new offensive talent. Was Baalke able to do that? Blake Bell? What a joke. Keep apologizing, NJ.

  44. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – Would you like to bet on the 49ers’ record next year? You keep saying I’m not grounded in reality. Betting cuts through the bs. I say the 49ers don’t go 8-8. And I’ll bet you anywhere between $100 and $500. Would you like to wager? Chuck won’t. But we all know he’s full of sheep dip. How ’bout you? Care to let me take advantage of your optimism?

  45. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    OK, Spitty, I’ll bet you on Mighigan. Since you are jizzing all over the big house.

    I’ll bet they don’t win the national championship.

  46. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hmmm. Chickenlips got awful quiet.

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Painfully I went back and watched Kap’s 3 throws to Crabtree in the Super Bowl and his throw to Crabtree in the NFCCG.
    Of the 4 passes Crabtree got his hands on the 3rd down throw in the Super Bowl but he was at the 2 yard line and that got stripped. The other 3 passes he never touched. If a receiver never touches a ball how do you expect him to catch it?
    None of the passes was even a 50/50 ball.

    The question was asked earlier, Is Kap finished? I think not, but the light needs to click on pretty soon and somebody has to read him the riot act to snap out of his funk or he will turn into a salvage job. 2015 at the age of 28 and in his 5th season is when it all needs to come together.

    And please if you’re a Kap apologist don’t come crying that Alex Smith was given 7 years to prove himself. Smith started with a 2-14 team. Kap took over a 13-3 team.

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    There goes Chuckles baiting and trolling, trolling and baiting.
    The clown troll is in the house!

  49. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jags are snakebit. Their #1 pick Dante Fowler tears his knee up on the first day of rookie minicamp.

  50. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, I keep forgetting all those injuries didn’t affect the QB. It only affected the coaches and the rest of the team. After halftime.

    Spitty baiting NJ and me is OK. But vice versa is out? Just like the Alfonzo Dennard deal, you are such a hypocrite your fricking eyes are brown.

    11th in scoring in the 1st half. Last in 2nd half scoring. Hmmm. Were teams figuring our offense out? Of course not. It was the players screwing up. Or the injuries. Or sunspots. Or 14 other excuses. Couldn’t be they were out-schemed. 6 leads lost? Funny, how dod they GET the leads?

    Big talk from a little chicken. Yer like a schoolyard punk talking big, with his 2 older brothers protecting him from behind. You and NoFear have the keyboard jockey role down to a T.


  51. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, your last 2 posts are your usual offering. Keep up the good work.

  52. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I didn’t notice before that the Lambs first 7 picks (!) were for offense. 3 tackles, a guard, a WR, a backup for Foles, and Gurley.

    With their D already in place, they are going to be a team to watch. They could be surprisingly good.

  53. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If the troll shoe fits wear it.

  54. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The troll shoe fits Chuckles but he’s no Cinderella.

  55. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Spit you’re so full of shit you’re too blind to see.

    Teams know what players do?
    Good athletes can learn to do pretty much anything they’re Coached to do.

    Why the desperation to bet dipshit?
    You’re a compulsive personality sort.
    If you’re a recovering individual as you claim to be.
    Stay away from gambling.

    Choose a side.
    Optimist or Pessimist.

    Actually, don’t bother.
    We all know the answer.

    You’ll live for 4-12.
    Then, come back to beat your chest.
    I’ll hold to my feelings about whether Baalke failed to provide talent or, Kaep wasn’t much better than Alex.

    You’ll blame Baalke for a guy like Bell, who hasn’t played a snap.

    Since you are the ‘geneous’ that you are.

  56. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Good point Bullit. One of your best.

    Lose team lose!!!!

    This whole site, and you especially Skeebs, banned Dennis for acting like all of you are acting now.

    Wear it well.

  57. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Who’s the Rams QB, RTF? Oh yeah, Crystal Foles.

    I see a lot of Gurley action in St. Looie.

  58. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Actually, Sean Mannion could very well Russell Wilson his way into the starting spot in St L.

  59. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If the foo shits, Bullit, you always grin and eat it.

    Coprophagia, indeed.

  60. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    I’m still trying to digest your insistence to blog here Spit.

    You’re obviously not a fan.
    You enjoy being obstinant, that’s obvious.

    Those of us that choose to be 9er fans can differ on our points of view.

    You live to see the day that you’ll be proven right.

    Good for you.
    I can endure 4-12.
    You’ve been leaving the 9ers for several years.

    Go already.
    I seriously don’t care where your alter egos think you should go.

    I know one thing, you live for a train wreck.

    Cleveland might fit?

  61. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    What was Foles record as a starting QB, Chuck? Hmm? What was Bradford’s? Hmm?

  62. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    So I guess, NJ, we can put you down for not wanting to bet as well? That means you really don’t believe, like Chuck, in what you’re selling. Why would anyone waste time blogging endlessly about stuff they really don’t believe? Is Jed York sending you tickets for trying to sell tickets? Because if he isn’t, and there’s no reason you’re spewing endlessly about Niner optimism that you don’t believe in yourself, you’re a bigger idiot than I thought.

  63. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    So, just for the record, the two biggest optimists on this blog, Chuck and NJ, don’t want to bet that the 49ers go 8-8. Just for the record….

  64. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Just ask Spitoon about the Aints playoff game and what Alex Smith did to NO not once but twice and that will take the wind out of Spitoon’s sails.
    That is Spitoon’s kryptonite.

  65. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – Are you referring to the only playoff game Alex Smith has ever won? The Saints’ game where the Saints turned the ball over 6 times and Alex still almost lost? Doubt that’ll slow me down, compadre.

  66. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – Why do you engage Chuck? Are you that bored? Can’t you see he lives only to fight with people on the blogs? Is that where you want to be when Jesus comes back?

  67. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I have yet to make a prediction and won’t until the 3rd preseason game. Chuckles always the troll putting words in my mouth. I never said what you attribute to me with your usual lie.

    You guys can spend the next 3 months arguing about projected record. I’m notpredicting until I see these guys on the field in preseason games and see what offense they’re running and the defense.

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    That’s your Kryptonite. Alex Smith drove the team twice to come from behind.
    You’re mouth is still wide open as you were astonished what was accomplished.
    One of the all time great moments in Niner history. Even you cannot deny that.

  69. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – I don’t have a Kryptonite. I’m invincible. That was a great game, and it was a lot of fun to watch, that’s for sure. Today I look at that game and I’m honestly happy for Alex Smith because it all worked out for him and, at the time, me. Smith was jettisoned for a qb who could win playoff games (4), and a guy who could score points in a hurry (Kaep). Smith then went on to play well in KC and lead them to the playoffs in Smith’s first year there, and even though the Chiefs lost, Smith played well.

    I honestly believe the 2011 SF 49ers were Harbaugh’s best team. Just my opinion. I think they were the best team in football that year.

  70. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, your puerile hysterics are really getting pathetic. Obviously, you’re the one being protected here.

  71. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – I’m beginning to think Skeebers is protecting Chuck as well. Chuck’s clearly jealous of Skeeber’s blog, and intentionally trying to ruin Skeeber’s blog. If Skeebers could pull the plug on Chuck this blog would take off (and I’ve said that before). However, could be that Skeebers is protecting Chuck for some reason – maybe afraid the blog wouldn’t survive without Chuck. Quite the contrary… Chuck’s game just makes this place less enjoyable. For almost all of us… Yesterday, when Chuck wasn’t around, blogging here was a blast.

  72. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    There are questions about Balkey and also about Kaepernick. Legitimate questions because the answers so far have not been adequate from either.

    Can Colin be a long term winning pro QB- which means continued growth- or have we seen his best and now he’s on a permanent plateau? TBD and this year with all its (did I get that ‘its’ right RT?) coaching, player and owner turmoil is the year we are going to find out. With a good enough team Kap got us to the SB but wasn’t good enough to clinch the deal. A remarkable comeback wasted at the end. Perhaps the Niner team giving up so many points on D and ST had quite a bit to do with it. But the questions on Kap will linger until we see progress in his game. Stay tuned.

    Blakey blew the 2012 draft, Jimi and his coaches knew it and started bitching that there was no reload. Kyle Williams Yorks pet? Right. Questions about Balkey abound = player selection, talent evaluation, injured red shirts, weak O to name a few. For some these questions have already been answered with a resounding NO, no good. Others will look at this year and say “now show me”. I see the Niners regressing under Balkey and this year promises to continue that pattern.

    BTW I do think ignoring the trollish one is the right strategy.

  73. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Phil – What do you think the right strategy is?

  74. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Obviously I’m the one being protected? Yeah, that’s like the master of pseudonyms accusing me of that. In other words, the rubber/glue argument. Bullit and me are 2/3 of the fun here. Spitty, you are a crushing bore. Boo hoo. 250,000 words of gibberish.

    Bet me Michigan wins the national championship, Spitty. If St. Jim is God, he should win it all. Scared? Pussy? F&^ off. Bet me you know how to catch a fish.

    All I’m saying, RTF, is that Foles has a problem staying on the field. So does Brafdord, but all I thought that was was ol’ Chipper was going to use Bradford as a chip to trade for Mariota.

  75. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Could be, but it’s a lot like a monkey throwing his feces. Just because you don’t throw any back doesn’t mean he’ll stop.

    It could be as well, that it’s just the stink of his own shit he likes.

  76. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Replaying this makes me feel good and reaffirms why I have been and always will be a Niner fan.
    Despite what trolls say or try to instigate or insinuate.

  77. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – I think if you ignore him it does mean he’ll stop. He’ll have no other choice. It just takes you, me and Bullit to stop engaging Chuck, or Skeebers to ban Chuck. But either Skeebers doesn’t care enough because he doesn’t believe this will ever make money, or he does and he thinks Chuck is a crucial part. Either way, life’s too short to engage Chuck, and I simply won’t anymore. And if the blog returns to Chuck fighting non-stop with everyone because Chuck’s bored, I’ll move on.

    Bullit – great game, and great memories. Too bad those playoff days are long, long gone..

  78. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I hope that we’ll experience similar type moments sooner rather than later

  79. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, that might account for the four O-linemen plus the top rated RB that the Lambs drafted.

  80. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Spit reread what I wrote about ignoring trolls = “It’s the right strategy” should be pretty clear. You are correct IMHO.

  81. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Phil – My bad. I need to start paying closer attention…. or not.

  82. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    It’s a simple solution that I’ve been religiously following for the past month or so = just not throwing crap back or responding to the obvious grab for attention by whatever means. It works since the positive reinforcement of crap coming back DOESN’T and boredom sets in for the initiator. Meanwhile other conversations have space to flourish and the ‘tone’ of the blog rises.

    But I don’t need anyone to agree with me on the issues as long as 1) I understand their POV fully 2) We agree to disagree. As long as there is consistency in others POV, not opportunistic shifting for the sake of argument or their attention seeking needs, etc, I accept most peoples right to hold whatever beliefs. Including ones I disagree with.

  83. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, you have come back from blasting anything and everything the teams does. You deserve to be noted for that. Unlike Bullit. But even he;s walking back a little from death and doom over everything,

    But now you have the triumphant return of dipwad. The guy who bragged about getting thrown off of every bay area blog. What’s funny is they all just basically ignored you wherever you went.

    What was your response? Come back here. The only place left that will take your inane shit. Play on, skippy.

    And, banning me for having a differeing opinion would be weak sauce. And for all his foibles, Skeebers knows that.

    I have no problem discussing the finer points of football, but some people just have to be weenies and refer to 6 year old posts to make inane points about things, or write obfuscating bloviating posts that illuminate little.

    So how about you stop dctating blog policy to others and STFU.

  84. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Time for Chuckles to take his clown act somewhere else.

    I recall him and the other apologist B deciding it was appropriate for the Niners to tank the season if it would cost Roman his OC position. They just didn’t like the style of the offense and figured rooting for the team to lose was a means to an end for their agenda

    So you guys really are the bandwagon guys that talk out of both sides of your mouth. I suppose that’s why you are trolls.

  85. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Cool, making shit up now. Good for you.

  86. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Lies are the tool of the buffoon.

  87. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So Chuckles admits to being the buffoon.
    I don’t have to make this up. It’s there for all to read.

  88. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Were you disappointed that Baalke didn’t draft CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu with one of those 7th rd picks.
    I still can’t come to terms that he used a 5th rd pick on a punter.
    I’ve read further that the stats are misleading as only 10% of his punts were inside the 10 yd line.
    He was the 5th rated punter in the ACC.
    Did Baalke havc a brain fart?

  89. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    How to start a protest of Chryst and build on it during the season. With the aim of getting him fired. Contrast Gase-Cutler performance with Chryst-Kaepernick. Any ideas on how to light the dynamite to get the O into the modern era. Use social media to mock and lampoon, maybe a cartoon series or a contest or betting on futility of each game. Maybe some way to make money on this.

  90. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    How about a song parody. Can someone post YouTube of Heart doing “never” as well as the lyrics. Hey baby I’m talking to you.Then get some high school chick to sing it and let it go viral. Them mail it to 49er HQ.

  91. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Hey geep chryst I,m talking to you
    Enough with those losses

    Let’s get Dennis on this. He is creative. Spend the money he makes on the horses or feeding the ducks.

  92. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Trent baalke I’m talking to you
    Enough with the losses

    Never never never
    Never bet on niner wins

  93. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    “Spend the money he makes on the horses, or feeding the ducks.” I’m not sure you thought that one through……

  94. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    When are the optimists going to tell us what there is to be optimistic about?

  95. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, they can rest their hats on the promise and development of rookies.always a glimmer of hope when personnel are concerned. OTOH the O staff sucks all the air out of the room. Been there, done that. It’s like looking at an ugly woman. Now that is serious deflategate.

    A more appropriate song to parody, versions available for both optomists and pessimists, is “against all odds”.

  96. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t know, but those same fans have no trouble with pessimism, huge piles of it, talking about last year’s team and coaches. And they never tire of it, only taking a break to tell the rest of us to move on from the self-inflicted destruction.

    Their entire agenda is pure hypocrisy. Huge litanies of hate before, during and after every game from every one of those “optimists” last year.

    They’re so disingenuous with this “cheer for crap” campaign they’re on it’s hard to even take them seriously.

  97. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    The optimists don’t want to place any wagers so that’s shuttin’ down their game. And really, who can blame ’em? The 49ers will win 3 or 4 games, then maybe pickup a garbage game or two at the end of the season to win maybe 6 games. But if there’s a total collapse and no faith vote of Tomsula, it’ll be a 4-12 season. If the 49ers pickup a few garbage wins at the end of the season, Chuck and NJ will see it as a major moral victory for the optimists heading into 2016. Nevermind the debacle known as the 49er 2016 season that’s to follow. A brain is a terrible thing to waste buried in the sand. But at least they aren’t so buried they waste their money betting on a team fielded by the brain trust of York, Baalke ‘n Tomsula. Sounds like a bankruptcy attorney firm: Morally and ethically bankrupt… and definitely intellectually bankrupt. No thanks. Go Chargers! Go Michigan!

  98. winderNo Gravatar says:

    spit- on this one you are totally wrong. I quite betting the Niners in the 70’s, it just interferes with the way I watch 49er football. But go on thinking like you do it’s kinda entertaining. Kinda.

  99. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – Good point. They love to tear apart Harbaugh, but if you tear apart Tomsula, it’s “move on.” That’s hypocrisy at its finest.

    I can see the faults with Harbaugh. He shouldn’t have treated officials like dirt. He should have loosened-up with his players. He was perhaps too loyal to some of his coaches. You can make a case he was too loyal to Roman, but if your GM can’t draft offensive players, it’s hard to blame the OC. What if Baalke hadn’t drafted AJ Jenkins, Vance McDonald and LaMicheal James? Would the 49ers’ offense have been so anemic last year? Doubtful.

    However… I will say I can’t have it both ways – giving Baalke all the blame for AJ Jenkins, LaMicheal James and Vance McDonald while also giving credit to Harbaugh and his coaches for Dial, Kaep, Reid and others. At some point, Harbaugh had his fingers on Jenkins, McDonald and James… but that line’s so blurry it’s hard to tell who did what. What’s clear right now is that Tomsula, because he’s so weak, has no say in personnel that’s consequential…..

  100. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Winder – I don’t include you in the optimists who cower away from the challenge. Chuck clearly bets. He’s lost a bottle of Jameson’s to me so he doesn’t have your excuse. NJ bets also. He’s just a complete homer / coward. And I’m not trolling. I’ll bet. Happy to.

  101. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spitblood, there’s no case to make or reason to make it. No one goes through life, war or football without making some mistakes.

    If you’re not making any, you’re probably just complaining from the peanut gallery and would piss your pants in the arena.

    Harbaugh’s one 8-8 season, with all the injuries and QB transition problems, in view of his first three years here, is not a reason for any change much less a disaster of incompetence.

  102. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – You’ve clearly got the wrong person, or you’ve never preached to choir more…. I ketchup, mustard, relish making mistakes. I’ve made enough for you, me, Skeebers, Winder, NoFear (intentional mistake for laughs), Del, Grump, RT and Phil. If you noticed I didn’t include Chuck or NJ because nobody’s that stupid, but I digress.

    I’d almost prefer to make mistakes due to extreme learnability after. And tying this mistake theme into Harbaugh leaving, I was clobbering York and Baalke last season in a futile attempt to prevent this current catastrophe and you weren’t very supportive claiming my slant was like my Alex Smith agenda all over again. But I forgive you because we all make mistakes.

  103. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    *the choir… see, I can’t help myself.

  104. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, preaching to the choir. I know. I meant “you’re” in the plural, non-specifc, general, collective sense.

    Why can’t someone make a tank sprayer with a spray wand for a guy more than four feet tall?

  105. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    For laffs:

    Phil Colombo putters around the train wreck of the Santa Clara Men in Black formerly known as the Red and Gold San Francisco Forty Niners. Scraps of black material litter the ground unable to distract from the smoking ruin.

    Hmmm, what’s this? A large wet spot. Ah the spilled remains of one Jimi Hendrix, winning coach. How did it come to this? Did anyone see this coming? Who could have predicted it? No use crying over spilled winners but does anyone know the recent history? The engineers running this train, the owners, their ability to attract and retain talent, provide support and stability? Do they have a good track record? Or not? Replacement winners flocking to sign up right?

    Must check into that along with all relevant facts concerning this unfortunate ‘accident’. Looking for facts to explain what we see here on the field.

    Phil C scribbling in notebook mumbles: “It can’t possibly get worse can it?”

  106. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I had Ifo E-O on my list of potential risk/reward guys too.
    Might have been worth a gamble to me as well.

    Certainly can’t know what kind of damage he incurred with the knee injury, or the current state of his health either.

    When I look back on the years of Draft history in SF, I’m reminded that it’s a pretty rare moment, when you nail a guy like Jerry Rice.

    In the Draft Class that netted us Andy Lee, in 2004, the only other guy of note was Sopoaga.

    If Pinion turns out to be anywhere near as good, I won’t complain.
    But, with any Draftee, it’s all about effort and drive to succeed.

    2004 Draft Class –
    31 Rashaun Woods WR
    46 Justin Smiley G
    58 Shawntae Spencer DB
    77 Derrick Hamilton WR
    104 Isaac Sopoaga DT
    127 Richard Seigler LB
    188 Andy Lee P
    198 Keith Lewis DB
    217 Cody Pickett QB
    226 Christian Ferrara DT

  107. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    All I can say is, the WR position is a very tough position to succeed at.

    If we’ve got a qualified starting QB in Kaep, things should improve from there.

    The rest, as they say, is a crapshoot.

  108. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Good reminder of just how many guys got selected over the years.
    Also, just how many never amount to much.

    Balmer, Rachel, Woods, Carmazzi, Druckenmiller, Ifeanyi, etc.
    Every GM tanks Picks along the way.

    At least these days, with the Rookie Cap, mistakes aren’t nearly as detrimental to the budget.

  109. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Rachal that is….

  110. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er, the tank sprayer dilemma is a curious one, LMAO.

    Guess it’s all about saving 8¢ on another 18-24″ of hose during manufacturing?

  111. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit another guy I listed recently as a Risk/Reward guy was DE Frank Clark from Michigan.

    He was Projected in the RD4-5 range, depending on who’s model you ascribed to.

    DV charges and, felony home invasion, were among several concerns going into the Draft.
    Seattle selected him, in RD2.

    Looks like he’s already making news for the wrong reasons.

  112. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NJ … are you talking to Rob’s squirrel in the tree? Are you playing checkers with him? Watch out. He’s a sneaky bastard. Ask Rob. He checkmates Rob all night long.

  113. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Pretty sure I addressed specific individuals in my posts Spit?

    Lemme see..
    I responded to a post from Bullit.
    Made a response to NoFear49er too.

    Rob’s squirrel?

    Sir Spitblood of Geneoushire?
    Nope again.

    Simply attempting to stir up some conversation.
    For what it’s worth.

  114. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    It ain’t worth rat piss. No offense.

  115. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    You should know Geneous.
    You do rat piss a disservice.

    And do us all a favor with the disingenuous ‘no offense’ remark.
    You live to offend.

  116. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey NJ49er, seriously. Product testing by the Munchkins, Inc.

    Charge more and include the tag “made for Americans!”

  117. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I hear ya NoFear49er.
    Couple years back I completely ruined a perfectly good tank sprayer trying to extend the hose myself.

    The fitting on the sprayer end was factory crimped.
    Figured I’d add some length to the hose and clamp it.

    Cheap-ass plastic fitting never sealed properly after my attempt.

    Learned my lesson.
    Don’t try to re-engineer garbage.

    Damn Munchkins succeeded I guess?
    Forced me to buy new 😀

  118. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, hoping Typhoon Noul isn’t in the cards for you Pal.
    Best wishes for a safe venue my friend.

  119. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This sucker doesn’t look too friendly.

  120. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Now it seems like it’s always a Super Typhoon.

    The Midwest is getting battered by heavy rain and tornadoes.
    If you live in OKC you go into your storm shelter to get away from the tornado and then the floods come and a woman drowned in her cellar. OKC has had bad storms every other day of this week.

    Anyway stay safe Phil.

  121. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Hawaii’s been seeing more hurricanes the last few years than usual. So far we’ve been lucky and they passed wide of the Islands for the most part. Good luck Phil pack in the water and batteries.

  122. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Last night Bogut played defense like he’d never seen a give ‘n go in his life. Bogut made Gasol look like a HOFer. If the Warriors can’t defend a simple give ‘n go, and they can’t defend the paint, they don’t deserve to win. And I’m a little critical of Steve Kerr as well. To get Curry going, Kerr needs to get Curry shooting 3’s off screens. In the past two games, Curry has been creating for himself, and the Grizzlies’ D has shut Curry down. Create screens for Curry – even double screens to get Curry going. Pass the ball to Curry off a screen and let him shoot 3’s without dribbling. Create some set plays. But quit having Curry create for himself. It’s not working. And Kerr is saying all the right things right now, but I don’t know if the rookie head coach knows what adjustments he needs to make.

    And on the Giants’ side, love how Brandon Crawford is hitting, and love that Bochy has moved Crawford out of the 8 hole. Crawford should be hitting 5th with the way he’s swingin’ it. And I’ve seen enough of McGehee. That guy sucks, and yeah, I know he hit a grand slam the other night. Did anyone see the pop-up Posey dropped last night? That’s McGehee’s ball and McGehee was just loafing down the 3rd base line. I hate a guy who doesn’t try (Vernon Davis). I’d rather see Duffy at third. Duffy and McGehee are the same defensively. On offense, Duffy won’t hit into as many double plays, but you will lose some slugging power.

  123. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    I think this clip shows the 49er players like Boldin, Kaep, Gore and Crabtree fed-up with Vernon Davis not trying last year. I’ve written extensively about the “walking holdout,” that happens after a player doesn’t get what he wanted from a holdout. But it’s selfish. It puts Vernon’s agenda of getting paid over the agenda of veterans like Boldin who are trying win rings and are more concerned with legacies.

    The only guys who’s going to call out Vernon is Boldin. Boldin’s a leader and Boldin’s also a bad ass.

    All last year Vernon wasn’t trying. He wasn’t blocking his man and he wasn’t looking back for the football when running routes. In addition, Harbaugh couldn’t bench Vernon because McDonald, Carrier and Celek were all injured.

    When you have one of your three or four offensive weapons not trying, it hurts the qb. If Kaep also doesn’t have an offensive line because Kilgore, Iupati and Anthony Davis are injured, your qb is going to struggle. No question.

  124. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullshit! Ridiculous! Not much of a fight there. Looked more like a struggling team trying to get some things right and missing.

    I hate these made-up bullshit “facts” that someone makes up and then repeats to try to manufacture facts to fit some narrative.

    Vernon had a tough year and was injured through most of it. Why not push some bullshit about Kaepernick’s “protesting his contract” and playing like shit intentionally.

  125. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – sounds like you have a Kaep hate agenda.

  126. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s just deal with the facts then. In 2014 it’s a FACT that Iupati said he played with a broken foot. That’s a fact. It’s a FACT that Anthony Davis was out most of the season – and it’s FACT that Anthony Davis is the 49ers’ highest paid offensive lineman, and was in 2014. It’s also a FACT that Vernon Davis held-out prior to the 2014 season. It’s also a FACT that Brandon Lloyd and Stevie Johnson were first year players with the 49ers. Actually, it’s not a fact that Lloyd was because he was drafted by the team, but for all “intents and purposes” Lloyd was a rookie in the Harbaugh offensive system. It’s also a FACT that Baalke busted on LaMicheal James and AJ Jenkins – first and second round picks in 2012 that should have helped Kaep immensely, but clearly didn’t. It’s also a fact that Crabtree was injured with an Achilles injury that’s hard to come back from and Crabtree’s playing time was limited by Harbaugh’s coaching staff. So of course NoFear concludes from all these FACTS that Kaep sucks. Figures.

  127. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    It’s a media typhoon over there, no storm close yet. Middle of the country got hammered bad a couple times recent years and now every time a storm comes into the area media over there goes into hype mode.

    But yeah this one’s a miss. Thank God.

  128. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Lol no sooner do Phil and Bullit chill a bit than Spitblood shows up to stir the pot. It’s tough all over. That’s showbiz I guess.

    Not that York gives a rats ass what we think = proven Fact.

    I can see bleeding Red and Gold but…Black? (Black? Black?…Jim Mora voice… Black? WTF? Black?)

  129. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Phil – I think we can have healthy debates without the name calling. But NJ drives me insane. And I don’t live for confrontation like Chuck. Chuck actually seeks out fights, and picks them. Then Chuck goes as far as to create four or five different user names on his site for different voices agreeing with Chuck. That’s insanity, and it’s been infecting Skeeber’s blog for a while. I have no desire to pick fights with people, or create seventy different user names. I am, however, opinionated…. and yes, I agree, York and Baalke don’t care. But they sure as hell should.

  130. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Agreed. VD is out after this season. Why not release him with Brooks on June 1. On field experience is the best teacher. Give it all to the young guys. Loved VD in the Saints game. Time to bury the past. Baalke/Jed settled the season with the new CS. Plan for the future. Endure the beat downs. Guaranteed top ten pick.

  131. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Team is rotting from the head up. For this season am following Fangio and their great draft. Prefer Cutler over Kaep anyway. Cutler->KWhite lights out, think Ryan->Julio Jones. JJ light was Chris Conley. KC snatched him 4 picks or so before the homer lauded Eli Harold. Why didn’t Baalke trade up, even into late 2nd to get him. So much for his talent judgment.

  132. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Cutler over Kaep? Thanks for that. Mother’s Day for me is a day of reflection of my dear departed mum. I needed a good laugh.

  133. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Gotta agree with you there, RT. I wouldn’t take Cutler over any qb in America…. not even Ryan Leaf who I think is in the big house. I’ll never forget when Cutler took himself out of the Bears / Packers playoff game with a slight limp.

  134. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    That was for all the marbles, Spitty – the NFCCG, the last time Cutlets ever got anywhere. Yeah, I could see Unitas doing that…

  135. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    And pan him for life. He has a lot to work with. Whatever Gase has going for him was magnified with Peyton’s knowledge. He ate up our D last fall. Get set for the beatings. Nine in the box until chryst-kaep can overcome. Guaranteed top ten pick.

  136. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Cutler’s the highest paid player in the league, or at least was the last time I checked. Not long after he said whatever he said recently about just being in it for the money, the Chicago GM who signed him to his contract got fired.

    Kaep may or may not have a bounce back year. But I sure as hell like his attitude, working all offseason on his mechanics. I can’t say the same about Cutler.

  137. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    For his misfortune, Kaep at the pro level has never worked with a credible O staff and basically complemented a running attack. Cutler has a chance to redeem himself. Optimism lies with his O, not ours. KWhite, Alshon Jeffrey, Martellus Bennett, an old Matt Forte still with a years tread left, and a patched up OLine.

    Looking at our O the DC’s still have a target rich environment.

  138. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    “Kaep has never worked with a credible O staff?” That’s ridiculous…

  139. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Dump VD? No but this year without a plethora of sabotage induced dysfunction and injuries it’s different = Let him play and if not up to speed with motivation or injury then sit him and let the backups have at it. Last year we didn’t have that choice due to depleted bench.

    Not sure what the implications capwise are for cutting VD before and after June 1?

  140. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Two problems, Spitblood. Now you’re just making up a straw man and putting my name on him. Secondly, you’re missing my point. The second scenario was just as bad as the first (yours). That’s why I said “push some bullshit…” .

    Making up shit and spoiling for an argument over it reminds me of someone… I just can’t put my finger on who.

    I’d never argue that Kaepernick’s performance wasn’t affected by the injuries around him. But there’s a lot a QB can do that’s right and wrong all by himself. Kaepernick’s done his fair share of both and some of the wrong things have cost us dearly. A couple of amazing plays now and then can’t make up for a steady stream of bad decisions and errant throws.

    I’m encouraged by him taking the initiative to work on his game this off-season and realizing he needs to get better at it. And there’s no one here who wanted Kaepernick to take Smith’s job more than I did. Me and Dennis anyway, from day one of his signing. But that won’t stop me from criticizing him when he blows it.

  141. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong Spit. Only OC Kaep has worked under is Roman whose background came from ground and pound. He is a caveman. Gase versus Roman or Chryst. Took me a nanosecond to decide.

  142. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – I’m not creating a straw man. I honestly have believed since last year that Vernon Davis was a walking holdout in 2014. He missed blocks all last year. In some cases his missed blocks were so obviously intentional. And let’s not forget his route running where Vernon wasn’t even looking back for the football. Is it really a coincidence to you that after Vernon held out and didn’t get a raise, his 2014 stats decreased significantly. For me it’s not a coincidence. I look at that youtube video and see Boldin calling Vernon out because of a lack of effort. But obviously I don’t know that for sure.

    I just look at Kaep last year as a victim of some very systemic organizational problems that he really had no control over. His play isn’t going to get better in 2015 because those problems within the organization still remain, and in some cases have gotten worse. Qbs can overcome poor support, but not for long.

  143. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bakkentom – The offense was Jim Harbaugh’s. Greg Roman was the OC, but it’s been well documented that the play calling was a three-headed monster. The shell of the offense, and overall philosophy was Harbaugh’s. Roman made adjustments, brought in and created new plays, and probably did a majority of the play calling.

    The 49ers’ offense in 2012 was amazing. It slowed way down in 2013 because Baalke dumped Delanie Walker, Randy Moss and Ted Ginn, and the 49ers had nobody to take the top off the defense… and Crabtree got injured. I’m not a huge Roman fan, but if you take away his weapons it’s obvious the three-headed play calling monster, and Kaep, will all be less effective.

  144. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Colin Kaepernick has some spectacular plays on his highlight reel. Lack of consistency and making routine throws is holding him back.

    The myth though is he was a superb passer in college.
    Kaepernick threw for an average of 196 yds a game throwing for 82 TDs which is 1.6 TD passes per game.
    In contrast Colt McCoy’s average was 254 yds a game and he threw for 30 more Tds than Kap which is 2.15 TDs a game.

    His pro stats mirror that passing production at Nevada Reno.

    Basically Kap fits the profile of a Baalke draftee. A project
    that will take 1-2 years to cultivate. Lot’s of potential that needs to be tapped into correctly.

    Harbaugh was mesmerized by the potential and got burned when Kap didn’t mature as a NFL QB as quickly as the team needed him to.

    I agree we can speculate all we want but to truly formulate an opinion you need to see how they do in preseason and hopefully they’ll reveal something.Right now everyone is just guessing.

  145. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Agreed Bullit. Do you know what’s painful to think of? If Nolan had drafted Aaron Rogers, the 49ers would have had at least two rings under Harbaugh, and he’d still be here…

  146. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Agreed Bullit. Do you know what’s painful to think of? If Nolan had drafted Aaron Rogers, the 49ers would have had at least two rings under Harbaugh, and he’d still be here…

  147. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    So, would there be any room to speculate, that Kaep didn’t develop quickly enough to save Harbaugh’s job?

  148. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    So how’s Kaep developed compared to Andy Dalton and Cam Newton? Both guys were drafted ahead of Kaep and in Kaep’s draft class. For that matter, with the one exception being Russell Wilson who has a ton of consistent support, which NFL QB drafted in the same draft class or since has developed faster than Kaep? Just curious.

  149. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Winder –
    You made me do some digging into the name ‘Geep’ after your post the other day –

    Seems his given name is George Patrick “Geep” Chryst.

    Guessing George Patrick as in ‘GP’ = Geep?

  150. winderNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- at least that makes sense.

  151. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Developed as in pocket development, ability to dissect a Defense from within said pocket?
    Making quicker progressions etc.

    I’ve speculated on several occasions, about whether there might have been some friction created, because Kaep wasn’t functioning better as a pocket passer?

    Sure, Dalton has similar issues but, he’s not very mobile.

    I do think Newton and Kaep were pretty similar by comparison.
    Cam and Kaep masked some of their shortcomings with their legs.

    My view is, if Kaep developed better touch and, utilized shorter options, we’d have had better results and less lost yardage plays.

    We’ll see if his off season tutoring has brought some of those needed improvements soon enough.

  152. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, Aaron Rodgers inherited an O centered QB nurturing org that continues today with Mike McCarthy. Cutler started in the same org with Shanahan/Elway … They started correctly from day 1. Alex Smith’s career finally found daylight with the eagle’s discard Andy ??????. QB training camp’s really have a big demand for caveman outfits. That may be Kaep’s only hope is use the off season to better himself.

  153. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bakkentom, I think there’s a lot to be said for the WCO.
    Obviously many of us as 9er fans are spoiled because of it.

    McCarthy/Reid/Shanny are all WCO/Walsh disciples.

    Aaron is a pocket passer.
    Alex as well.

    Kaep was a project from the start.
    Pistol/Spread QB in College.

    Alex doesn’t have the sheer arm strength of either Aaron or Kaep.
    If Kaep could master the short game Alex has, with the ability to sling it like Aaron can, we’ve got a winner.

    The biggest difference with Kaep is his speed.
    He’s too reliant on his legs IMO.
    Blessing and a curse I guess?

    Get him to play smarter from within the pocket, and he’ll be a star.

  154. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Kaep needs help to overcome the CS and did not get it in this draft for help this season. He needs a big target with sticky hands and avoid being reticent like a young Alex regarding interceptions. The O staff is outclassed by the DC’s. That has to be overcome.

  155. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Agree Bakkentom.
    Lot’s of moving parts in this game.
    Teams were never threatened downfield by Alex.
    Defenses would sit on the 15yd limits and squeeze him.
    Kaep would threaten deep but rarely underneath.

    I could see a WCO being of benefit to Kaep if he develops better touch underneath.
    He’s got the big arm and relies on it too often IMO.

    Newton has KBen, we’ver lacked that sort of weapon.
    That could have improved if VMcD could get on the field more, Carrier too.

    We have some speed this year in Torrey.
    Let’s see if this new regime can get something from these guys.
    Still comes back to Kaep continuing to improve his game from the pocket for me.

  156. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Route trees I assume mean all patterns run on a given play. Properly designed they will have timing windows when they open up per the defense. Does Kaep have the smarts to handle this. Throw in hot reads, receiver adjustments, and throwing receivers open. Jury is out on Kaep until he is capable. This is a never ending process. A constant chess game between DC and OC.

  157. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    All true Bakkentom.
    The QB makes it go.
    Each position has a job a to do.

    I think Harbaugh got snake bit trying to find a comfort zone for Kaep.
    Patterns by the WRs should compliment each other.
    We had guys in the same areas too often, looking as though they weren’t on the same page with one another.

    Add injuries, slow developing plays, you name it, it came unglued pretty frequently last year.

    Biggest area of improvement needs to be in the Red Zone.
    Plenty of problems, very few answers thus far.

  158. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Another offense that may be more suited to Colin’s arm is Air Coryel that was taken to new heights with Dan Fouts and Kellen Winslow. Does Bruce Arians and Andrew Luck follow on that path.

  159. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    West Coast Offense is the short passing game.
    It was called ‘death by a thousand paper cuts”.
    Can Kap be patient and master the short passing game which requires a QB to know where all his receivers are to go through progressions? The success of the offense might require this.
    Also interesting that smash mouth football was a Bill Parcells concept and we know that Baalke is a disciple of Parcells.

  160. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Kaep is never going to master a short passing game. Never. Know why? His delivery is too slow, and the windup takes too long. In baseball terms, he’s pitcher from the Dominican whose throwing style is known as a “slinger.” Not to be confused with Miami swinger. Kaep is a mid-range and down field thrower, who might be able to get some short touch passes in there successfully each game, but it won’t be his bread and butter… ever. A guy like Tom Brady is a good short passer because his throwing motion is compact. If you want Kaep to succeed, get him some well-rounded wide receivers who do everything well, and get him a running game that attacks inside and outside without tipping its hand pre-snap.

  161. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    RT ‘n NoFear: What are some good websites that break down offensive line play in 2014? I’m doing a little offensive line research and would like some statistical analysis of NFL O lines.

  162. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    According to some reports Kap has shortened up his throwing motion and made it more compact.
    I agree a long delivery is not suitable for a WCO because you telegraph your passes and allows the DBs to jump routes.

    That’s why the most interesting video will be of Kap’s throeing motion when they allow the media to film.
    Someone snuck in a video of one pass and his motion was more compact but more video is needed to see what changes have been made.

  163. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Why change a throwing motion he’s been working with all his life so he can throw short? I don’t want a qb who throws short. I want a guy who can drive the ball down the field. That’s like asking Madison Bumgarner to shorten up.

  164. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dan Marino had a compact throwing motion and he could make all the throws. It’s impressive if you have little windup and can flick the ball on a line 30 yds downfield. DBs can’t react because they can’t see it coming.
    Kap needs to learn to be a QB still. Don’t stare down receivers and use your head to manipulate the safety. This is the stuff that he should be polishing up and not just learning.

    Russell Wilson has “it” which elite QBs are born with.
    It’s like a sixth sense but obviously not all QBs have “it”
    nor can they learn “it”.

  165. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Kaep is who he is regarding his skill set. The grow comes mentally, between the ears.

  166. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:


  167. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    I do think Kaep will be able to make short touch passes, and learn to throw deep, but I think Kaep needs to grow and mature mentally. He needs to know and read defenses better. He needs to stay in the pocket longer, and definitely needs to get through his reads quicker. Some of that is Steve Young-like growth as a thrower, but most of his growth will come mentally…. controlling the game pre-snap. But that’s going to be severely hampered now with this current coaching staff.

  168. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Spit, Google air coryell and look at offensive playbook and air coryell vs WCO. I believe Bruce Arians does it and the Kurt Warner Super Bowl OC who coached the Bears when Cutler was starting there..Logan likes the WCO so it seems we are stuck with it.

  169. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Can Kaep emulate Andrew Luck and Carson Palmer who seemed to have mastered the air coryell concepts. Does he have what it takes. Dennis Giles thinks so but maybe he has visions of future dollars. Might as well farm out QB development to third parties Cruz chryst-logan is a black hole of failure.

    How did Tomsula every get HC. Does he have a hot daughter for Jed?

  170. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Spit, I don’t know the answer to your O-line question. I’m guessing you’re referring to the service NF subscribes to, Pro Football Focus Pro (?). He’ll need to answer that one.

  171. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Used to know a guy named Tom Bakken. From SD IIRC.

    Spitblood, yeah, sounds like PFF is what you want.

  172. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Up here in the ND oil patch, bakken shale.

  173. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Looked you up on Google last week, Tom, and saw all this oil fields stuff and thought, “Naw. Too easy.” Guess not. Welcome to the blog.

  174. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You’re up there in Packers, Bears, Vikings land. Guess that makes you our NFC North insider.

  175. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Yes welcome bakkentom
    Don’t let the hysterical loonies that accuse every new guy of being someone else.
    Interested in some fresh viewpoints.

  176. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Pats just got hammered hard on deflategate.
    Brady suspended 4 games
    Pats lose a #1 and a #4 draft pick
    Pats are fined $1 mil

    That’s why backup QBs are important

  177. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Think mismatch that is very hard to counteract. Small’CB on WR1. Small SS/FS on a Jimmy Graham. These DB’s react and cannot with size like LB or a Taylor Mays. If we stick with Colin then top two 2016 are WR1 and pass TE.

  178. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Did the dearly departed Helen Thomas qualify as a deflategate?

  179. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Brady will miss the Steelers, @Bills, Jags, and @Cowboys. Looks like a 1-3 start. I’m rooting for Oedipus Rex in Buffalo this year. I like Rexy and Buffalo was my Mom’s hometown before Gramps packed up the family during the Depression and moved to N. Hollywood. Gramps was a freakin’ genius.

    But Go Bills anyway! Buffalo needs all the help it can get.

  180. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s a ridiculous penalty for suspicion of knowing about a possible infraction which the NFL couldn’t have cared less about and did absolutely nothing to stop at the time.

    Someone please tell me how that’s different from DB’s and linemen breaking the rules on every play? They know the rules and intentionally break them to gain an advantage and leave it up to the officials to call them on it or let it go.

    That penalty taints that division’s record of wins/losses.

    Absolute hogwash from Goodell. I hate that guy. Have I mentioned that before?

  181. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I think the closest thing to this is in baseball where you doctor the ball with a substance or scuff a ball to get more movement. Also in baseball you used to deal with corked bats or stick superballs in a hollow bat.

    Goodell is going hard line so this never happens again.
    Message is don’t mess with the equipment.
    Stripping the Pats of the draft choice menas everyone moves a slot up at least in round 2 which is good for the Niners.
    Nobody cried for the Niners when they were stripped draft choices for tampering with Briggs.

  182. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    It’s a history of ‘squeezing’ the margins perhaps, with the Pats.
    Granted, this isn’t a Court of Law.

    What is damning, is that there was an attendant seen on video, with the game balls, entering a bathroom following the Official pressure testing of the balls pre-game.

    Brady lobbied the League for a Rules change, to have the balls prepared by the home teams. Peyton Manning was involved in that effort too.

    Clearly he/they wanted the balls handled a specific way.

    It’s also reported, through the Wells Report, that Brady refused to cooperate with the request for his phone records, pertaining to the investigation.

    However, there were, apparently, messages exchanged between Brady and the equipment guys being investigated, proving there was dialogue going on, related to the investigation.

    Granted, it probably amounts to nothing more than circumstantial evidence.
    However, it does suggest enough doubt was created, to hit them with a stiff warning, against any future attempts to tweak the process limits perhaps?

  183. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If you believe in karma this evens it out for the time they had the snowplow clear a spot for the Pat’s kicker to give him better footing.
    The Pats always find controversy just like George Zimmerman always finds trouble.

  184. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Pretty much Bullit.
    Just like the huge conflict of interest with Herr Goodell.

    Paid for by the Owners to oversee the game they control.

    Might seem like a trivial item, to squabble over a pound or 2 of air pressure but, the statistics done since the Rules change was adopted, show that the fumble rates in NE have decreased by nearly 50%.

    A hard fact to ignore.

  185. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Roger obtained the ‘Spygate’ videotape involving the NYJ taken illegally by the Pats years ago and destroys them?

    Sure, it’s not a Court of Law and all but, who in a position of authority destroys evidence, and why?

    Draw your own conclusions I guess.
    It might suggest there was more there than just the NYJ too?

  186. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    All the chatter surrounding the elevator video and Ray Rice?
    Law Enforcement in Atlantic City claimed to have provided that evidence to NFL HQ in NYC yet no one could locate it?

    Plausible deniability smacks of protection for those that employ Herr Goodell.

  187. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Deflate gate: Who cares? If ya ain’t cheatin’… ya ain’t tryin’.

  188. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Every team seeks a competitive advantage.
    Without rules, then nothing can be taken seriously.

    Sad reality is, the multi-millionaire QB likely greased the palms of the guys that ‘took care’ of those footballs.

    Now those guys are unemployed.

  189. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Sh!t flows downhill.
    Little guys at the bottom are always the ones that get buried.

    I’d respect Brady more, if he had the balls to admit that he put them up to it.
    I can’t buy the suggestions that these guys did it, without some sort of direction, from those higher up the food chain.

    No doubt there’s a Confidentiality Agreement somewhere in their Pats employment records, to prevent them from speaking about it now?

    We’ll see where that goes in due time.

  190. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Still remember at the old Giants Stadium in the Meadowlands
    where there was a myth that the home team was controlling the wind blowing through the tunnel?
    Never proven but was mentioned so many times that there might be something to it.
    Giants Stadium along with Jimmy Hoffa in the end zone is gone now.

  191. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve heard from several friends who hold NYG season tickets that those stories were true Bullit.

    There was a huge steel roll up door under the stadium, that would be opened and closed to create vortex-like conditions when needed.

    Word has it Parcells was the mastermind of that one.

    Many rumors have circulated around these parts about the Teamsters involvement with the construction of the original Meadowlands Stadium too.

    The Mob owns NJ.
    The Politicians aren’t far off the mark now either 😀

  192. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The Meadowlands is probably very similar to Candlestick in terms of constant wind.
    Never been to the ‘Stick but, The Meadowlands is never calm.
    Always air movement of some kind.
    New stadium is almost identically situated to what the old stadium was as well.
    End zones probably not off by more then a degree or 2 by comparison.

    Our Gov sure enjoyed himself at MetLife stadium too apparently.

    Still trying to figure out where the money is in our State budget for pothole repairs though.
    Riding a motorcycle out here is a life or death proposition, in more ways than one.

  193. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    For me it’s justified by the play that forced the tuck rule. Al Davis was on his way to another Super Bowl, Undead and all, and IIRC Tom Brady and the Patriots had 0 Lombardi Trophies.

    Along with the snowplow game, it’s not simply cheating when the refs are in on it.

  194. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    There’s a clear history of questionable practices related to the Pats RT, no doubt.

    For Brady and Manning to lobby the League for a Rules change, directly related to ball conditioning practices, speaks volumes in hindsight.

    As stated, I feel bad for the 2 guys that just took the scapegoat roles for this.
    No doubt just following orders.
    Now, unemployed.

    The stats that have been complied, about the downward trend of Pats’ fumbles since said Rule was invoked, is no joke either.

  195. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    They ruled home team fumbles out of existence, NJ.

  196. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Actually you have to applaud Goodell for dinging the current Super Bowl Champion and golden boy Tom Brady who thought he was invincible and untouchable.
    His attitude before was of arrogance and now has turned to outrage..
    It shows that no matter how big of a superstar you are that you can’t cheat.
    Brady will appeal but I think this has humbled him and knocked him down a peg or two.

  197. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Mike Martz and Bruce Arrians are recent and current air coryell gurus???

  198. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit the punishment of 4 games IMO is way too lenient.
    Should’ve started at 8.

    Considering the fact that Brady didn’t cooperate with the phone records yet, proof existed to connect him in conversation with the equipment guys, shows a total disregard for the process.

    Brady was quick to quip at John Harbaugh about his complaints related to the funky formations NE used against him, to ‘know the rules’.

    Brady knew the rules.
    He chose to ignore them.

    Yes Goodell hit them at least, by way of Wells.
    I’d have smacked him heavier however.

    This could still be appealed to a lesser suspension, we’ll see?

    This whole Commissioner/Owner arrangement is way too cozy to begin with.

  199. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m just glad none of youse guys are judges. No sense at all about applying standards impartially? The folks who burned all the “witches” have nothing on you guys. No different than Goodell himself. Think like that and you have no bitch coming when the hammer falls on you for less.


    I’d think there are far more Coryell/Gilman offensive influences, in various forms, active in the league today. Martz was certainly one. What about Norv Turner off the top of my head?

  200. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Lucky I wasn’t the great decider. I would have given the Pats the Death Penalty: loss of Lombardi Trophy and a decreased salary cap and loss of draft picks for several years. What else does this NCAA do?

  201. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Where is norv turner. Want him here as HC.

  202. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    OC for vikings. Dump Guido by Christmas. He was OC for us in 2005?

  203. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hard to ignore text messages between the parties involved NoFear49er.

    Pretty damning dialogue suggesting the equipment guys were doing what Brady, (or team) expected no?

    Still can’t understand why the equipment guy took 2 bags of balls into a bathroom AFTER they were checked for compliance.

    Just suggests to me, that there was something deliberate taking place, to circumvent the Rules.

    I still believe, that had TMZ not obtained the Ray Rice elevator video, that whole episode would never have been addressed.
    If not for the video of the 2 bags of balls going into the bathroom with the equipment guy, would this have ever been investigated as thoroughly as it was in the first place?

    Goodell is basically the damage control guy for the Owners.
    He’s finding out that video evidence getting leaked, is exposing him as the shill that he is.

  204. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Even if you’re marginal basketball fans, you guys should be watching the Warriors. This team is fun and special. Tonight Bogut stepped up and Kerr made the necessary adjustments. I really like Steve Kerr. He honestly reminds me of Pete Carroll, and if the Warriors are smart, they’ll lock Kerr up to a long-term contract. The issue for the Warriors going forward is whether or not they can find a big man in the middle. That’s their only weakness. And despite the Splash Bros getting all the attention, Draymond Green is the heart and soul of this team.

    Tonight Kerr made two adjustments, and they were the right adjustments. On offense, the Warriors moved the ball and Curry drove instead of just looking to create behind the 3 point line. And on defense, the Warriors doubled the big men down low and left the 3 point shot open. Both strategies worked. And now back to Oracle.

    If the Warriors owners can sign Kerr and Draymond Green to long-term deals, and the Warriors pickup a few big men to help defensively in the paint, I think the Warriors will win a Championship in the near future, which, if they do, brings up an interesting point for Bay Area Sports fans. Who becomes the worst franchise in the Bay Area? The Giants are the best with their current dynasty. The Warriors are flat-out ballin’. The Oakland A’s won their last Championship in ’89. The Raiders in ’83. The Sharks, never – but they’re an expansion team, and were close for a while. The 49ers obviously won their last Lombardi in ’95.

    My question to you Bay Area sports fans is who will win a championship next, and which teams are on the rise while others are falling?

    The Giants will be awesome for as long as they have Buster Posey who, as I said his rookie year, is the heart and soul of the team – and Bruce Bochy. But the Giants do need to find good, long-term starting pitching to replace their older pictures. The Warriors are just good… and I can’t see them losing Curry… ever. I don’t know enough about the Sharks, but I do know the Giants have won the battle for Silicon Valley baseball dollars over the Oakland A’s, so even though the Giants and A’s are both relatively close, geographically, the Giants will remain a big market team while the A’s remain a small market team.

    If I had to bet on who’d bring the next championship back home to the Bay Area (and keep in mind I don’t know anything about hockey), I’d rank our teams in this order:

    1.) Warriors (ascending)
    2.) Giants (awesome nucleus with older pitchers)
    3.) A’s (Billy Bean always keeps the A’s competitive)
    4.) Raiders (Reggie McKenzie has a real uphill battle changing the culture created by Al Davis)
    5.) 49ers – (Jed York is possibly the worst owner in all of sports).

  205. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:


  206. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:


  207. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If nothing else, Jed is likely the least informed.
    If not for the connection to Uncle Eddie, he’s a rich kid with an NFL franchise.

    Irsay and Snyder would make my list as clueless Owners.

    Which is why I pull for Baalke, to keep Jed away from the real business of football.

  208. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, I didn’t see anything beyond a couple of low-level grunts shootin’ the shit. Only damning for folks looking to burn Brady and/or the Pats for anything. I’d link to an article that copied my sentiments but it’s been my experience that although folks like to say they welcome other POVs, they really don’t. Folks who can go along with this punishment because they don’t like Brady won’t be swayed by facts or lack of them.

    It’s just too bad those same folks aren’t nearly as tough on the politicians they elect to run the country and their lives more and more.

  209. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m curious about the dialogue between the 2 handlers NoFear49er.
    Seemed to suggest they were annoyed with Brady?

    If you have the link, fire away.
    I’m always open to different viewpoints.
    Heck, it’s a potpourri of opinions here after all 😀

  210. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    “OC for vikings. Dump Guido by Christmas. He was OC for us in 2005?”

    Something like that. McCarthy was the WCO OC who was hired away to HC the Packers. He was followed by Turner as OC and he in turn was hired away to HC the Chargers. But the change to Turner’s digital system was no picnic. You might be a year off there.

    Not sure if he’d be a good fit for Kaepernick but I’d take him over Geep as OC. HC? not so much. But certainly ahead of Tomsula.

  211. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of the running of the Country.
    I’m still trying to understand the TPA/TPP dynamic.

    Can’t be good for the working Man, when they’re trying to fast track a yet unseen package with the sort of potential impact it implies?

    Call me skeptical.

  212. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Thx NoFear49er, that piece does add some pressure to the Officiating angle.
    Very little mentioned about that aspect in all of this.

    Can’t disagree with the premise that Officials should control the balls beyond pre-game pressure reviews.
    What good are Rules that Officials aren’t enforcing?

    No argument surrounding the credibility of Goodell from me.
    The guy is clueless.

  213. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NJ you mentioned “As stated, I feel bad for the 2 guys that just took the scapegoat roles for this. No doubt just following orders. Now, unemployed.”

    I haven’t followed these follies too closely but think we can take solace on behalf of the two grunts by assuming Brady (who I like) and/or Kraft/Belichick have set aside a tidy sum or provided jobs for the grunts. Reward for services rendered?

    My guess is all.

  214. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, did you see that some of the Colts’ balls were under inflated as well? Brady must be paying everybody!

    On the TPA, whatever happened to every bill would be published on the internet before it was put to a vote?

    Whenever the executive wants to add to the power of the executive I want to see every comma of that bill before I’d support it. I’ll guarantee that there is more in that bill than meets the public’s eye. Yeah, keeping it secret might be a clue.

  215. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NF yep Turner has that numeric play calling system which would take longer to integrate.Loved him as an OC tho.

  216. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    IMO the sever penalties are due to the lack of cooperation from Tom Brady when they asked if they could look at his phone.
    IIRC the Niners were busted on tampering because they jumped the gun on talking to Briggs’ agent before the free agency period began.
    I think Goodell is sending the message that if caught doing something against the rules to come clean rather trying to bury it, stonewall to impede the truth and coverup.
    Admitting to doing wrong will get you a less severe punishment. If you don’t cooperate but they find you have done wrong then they ramp up the penalty. That seems to jhave happened here.
    Brady can and will appeal and now he is forced to tell his side of the story and make his case.

  217. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17