Flavor of the Month

Last call for vanilla. We hope.

Is anybody going to watch this game? Maybe the first quarter or half. The blackout was lifted in San Diego, so the stadium is going to be filled to the brim with invisible patrons. Just like last week’s game at Candlestick.

There’ll be some touching reunions before and after the game, since SD is now home to former 49er DC Greg Manusky and former 49er ILB Takeo Spikes. Head Coach Norv Turner used to work here, too, but we all hate him and hopefully everyone on the team gives him the middle finger.

Norv accomplished the impossible last year in San Diego. His team finished the season ranked first on offense and first on defense and somehow they didn’t even make the playoffs. Now that is some seriously lousy coaching, even by Norv’s standards. The only reason Norv is still running the team is that the Chargers’ GM can’t admit he made a big mistake hiring the guy in the first place, because he can’t admit he shouldn’t have fired the guy who preceded Norv, Marty Schottenheimer.

It’s anybody’s guess which of our commenters will draw a parallel to the 49ers long running marriage to one Alex Smith. In fact, these two blog punching bags are linked to the fateful year of 2007. The year Turner sabotaged Mike Nolan’s coaching career, set the franchise back several years, and left Smith in the hands of What the hell was that idiot’s name as OC, leading to Smith’s career altering shoulder descapulation.

I don’t normally wish ill on anyone, although it’s not THAT unusual when I do, but I will always wish some sort of bad luck on Norv. He was a true horse’s ass, through and through. That Nolan hasn’t personally broken Norv’s knee caps by now does not speak well to Nolan’s agressiveness. Nor did his defenses, but that’s another story.

It appears there is only one or maybe two roster spots up for grabs in tonight’s final preseason game against San Diego. That one or those two spots will undoubtedly be Special Teams wizards, and will be filled by one or two of the following fellows: Dominique Zeigler, Phillip Adams, Colin Jones, Curtis Taylor, Blake Constanzo, Ian Williams, or Lance Long.

Long, Jones, Williams, and Taylor are Practice Squad eligible, and could no doubt be safely stored there. For my money, the guy to keep is Phillip Adams. He’s not 100% recovered from last year’s broken ankle, but if we cut him, he will be claimed. Zeigler’s a tough cut. Ian Williams might not make it through waivers, and it might behoove us to keep him. These big fat fire hydrant guys don’t exactly grow on trees. Well, there’s a lot of big fat fire hydrant guys lumbering along out here in the real world, just not a lot in the football world. There are a lot of tubby guys in the football world, true, but few of them are fire hydrants. I can’t really explain the difference. All fats are not the same. That’s all I’m saying.

Anyway, last call for vanilla, like I said above. Hip hip hooray! One more week till it gets real.

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50 comments on “Flavor of the Month
  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not so sure our substrate behind the starters is that good. The good news is we are consistent because the same thing can be said about our starters. We do have some talent, unfortunately we do have many holes.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Reposting this because Skeebs put up new post about 40 mins after I posted this

    The 49er Total Access Show is being aired. Watched this week鈥檚 segment. At baout the 8:00 mark is a panel discussion with Bob Fouts,Lon Simmons, Wayne Waker, Don Klein and Joe Starkey hosted by Ted Robinson.
    Really awesome stuff bringing back great memories. Topic is unhearlded 49ers. They have footage of Paul Hofer! Roaring Back himself! This is must see and it was great to see Lon Simmons and Wayne Walker who were the best Niner announcers bar none.


  3. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- I saw that last night. I agree Brodie should be in he HOF. They mentioned some of my favorite Niners. Eric Wright, John Taylor and Bill Ring. I always thought MRob was like Ring. Some here did not appreciate his contributions and even thought he sucked, I was sad to see him go to Seattle.

  4. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Robinson was more John Isenbarger than Bill Ring, if you go back that far. Could run a little, catch a little, throw a little, and play ST. Jack of all trades, but master of none. Not a bad role player but probably not the value you want from a 4th rounder today.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    John Isenbarger for whatever reason was my favorite 49er when I was in high school. For some unknown reason I liked #17 even though he didn’t do much.
    Then I moved on to Ricky Churchman and the 2 years he played for the Niners.
    I always liked Paul Hofer.
    When you really think about it Alex Smith is getting the John Brodie treatment from some fans.
    Never understood Brodie being booed and the fans asking for Mira or Spurrier. Brodies was definitely a superior QB than those two.
    The reason why Brodie is not considered for the HOF is he never won the NFC championship
    much less the Super Bowl.
    I met John Brodie over 25 years ago in Palm Springs. He was at the La Quinta clubhouse and I think he was still trying to make a living with the PGA. That same weekend we also met Lee Trevino.

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger Robinson had an important role on the team as a leader that a lot of these pedestrian fans don’t seem to grasp.
    Last year you could tell that there was a void in the leadership for the first half of the year. Mrob was sorely missed.

    Glad you caught the show. I also liked the segment up in Tahoe especially Jim Tomsula talking about winter sports.

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Another from the show is how remarkable Lon Simmons looked
    at 88 years old. He could still be calling games like Vin Sculley
    has commited to doing next year.
    On the flipside Wayne Walker looked pretty frail and he was very softspoken. I wish them both the best because they were the best.

  8. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I dug Isenbarger as well. Being a WR and all. Plus, that #17 just seemed cool. Danny Abramowitz, for his short time here was another guy I liked.
    Bill Ring was special because he was an undrafted camp invitee that improbably made the team. He’s a local guy (Carlmont HS) that my sister-in-law went to school with, and said he was the quiet humble guy he appeared to be. M Rob was a 4th round pick who, to me, underachieved. He was supposed to be a starting FB, he failed at that, and ended up a STer. A leadership void? Really Bullitt? The leadership void last year was at the HC spot. Not on ST.
    And Skaabs, it’s 10 days to opening day kickoff.

  9. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Uh, Skeebs . . .

  10. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Freudian slip there, Chuck. Deep seated hostility surfacing. I shall note this in my database.

  11. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    You are projecting again, Skoobs . . .

  12. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Tooshay, Chick.

  13. bigtimNo Gravatar says:

    Hostler was the QB coach elevated to OC after Norv left
    deja-vous, from last season when Jimmy was canned and Johnson took over.
    the big difference was Norv was a quality OC, and well Jimmy was just Jimmy.
    sadly for SD Norv has a horrid track record as a HC, his ability to fail is well documented, good OC though should have stuck around but then who knows, its water under the bridge.
    I just want to see some better protection from the line tonight I am only watching the first qtr.
    Joe Staley better put up or shut up

  14. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Brodie lost a lot of shootouts. He’d fling the ball around like mad, but he had a limited running game a lot of his career, and a really limited defense. When you have to fling it around a lot, you’re going to get picked off a lot. On the days he won, everyone loved him… on the days when he couldn’t overcome the problems on the team, they booed him, screamed at him, and even pissed on him (through the fencing over the player’s entrance under the stands). His time here makes Alex Smith’s look peaceful. OTOH, Brodie never had a back like Frank Gore to help him, either.

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Want to talk about blowing it in the draft. In 1965 the Niners had the second pick and took Ken Willard who was steady but not spectacular. The 3rd pick was Dick Butkus and the 4th pick was Gale Sayers. We can play the what if game here and speculate what kind of team they would’ve had with Sayers at Halfback or with Butkus at MLB.
    If they became sucessful after 1965 Bill Walsh might never have coached and everything might not have turned out the way it did.
    The Morabitos might have hung on and not sold and so forth and so on. Just based on one draft pick.

  16. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, Ken Willard was about as good as it got for Brodie. And he wasn’t bad. His numbers pretty much match up with Hall of Famer Floyd Little’s. And coincidentally or not, came the consistency with wins with a better run game. Nevermind Dick Nolan’s penchant for going away from the pass-happy attack.

  17. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullitt, the Niners WERE successful from about 1965 to 1973. Not quite enough to win it all, but they were in the playoffs for 3 of those years, and decent enough in the mid to late 60s. Would they have been the best ever (at the time) had they drafted Sayers? Could be, but the Morabitos were dying off by the mid 70s, and the team would have been sold anyway.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners won their division and then would lose to either the Vikes or the Cowboys. It used to drive me nuts not getting past those teams.
    Least favorite Niners of all time in my book
    #1 Lawrence Phillips
    #2 Preston Riley
    #3 Monty Stickles – never forgave him for his comment after the Raiduhs beat the Niners to give the team a buck so they could cross the Bay Bridge. Remenber he did thia on the air as the color
    guy for Bill King in their Raiduh broadcast.

  19. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    It was the Cawboys those 3 years, Bullitt. Still have the ticket stub from the debacle in 1972. He Who’s Name Shall Not Pass My Lips made his blunder of the century in that game, and for Staubach, it was the beginning of his epic run.

  20. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, a true Niner fan knows better never to utter or type #2’s name on your list. That wasn’t allowed in my household when I was growing up as a kid. Well, unless you liked seeing a belt. And I don’t mean the Giant’s “baby giraffe.”
    But look on the bright side. You’ll always be able to say and type Alex Smith’s name. He’ll never get the chance to screw up in the playoffs like that other asshole did.

  21. robNo Gravatar says:

    from sando
    ” Harbaugh was content grabbing Colin Kaepernick in the second round and bringing back Alex Smith for a seventh season with the team. The 49ers showed patience again during free agency, reaching into the bargain bin while letting some of their own starters sign elsewhere uncontested. They appear to be in no rush.

    The 49ers’ lack of urgency at quarterback could at least partially reflect their desire to lean hard on the ground game. In that respect, the philosophy hasn’t changed much from Mike Singletary to Harbaugh. ”

    ouch !

  22. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Sayers was the most spectacular of those three, Bullit, but he was a comet: he tore through the NFL very quickly. Like McElhenny, who he ran like, knee injuries made him merely mortal.

    Butkis would be the most bang for your buck. Nunley was OK, and other MLBs were very good, but Butkis was in a class by himself. Very bright, articulate guy who became an utter vicious barbarian once a game started. If he couldn’t hit you, he’d bite you (true story). Can you imagine Butkis playing between Wilcox and Vanderbundt?

    Ultimately though, the lack of a world class workhorse RB and enough backup DBs killed us in the early 70s. Jimmy Johnson could not be everywhere on the field, unfortunately.

  23. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Rob. So basically the only difference this year will be that we’ll have a white guy roaming up and down the sidelines without a cross around his neck? Jesus H. Christ. God help us.
    Hey, you know what question I’m asking next…who ya like this week in Hotlanta? I have Busch, KURT and Kenseth as my provisional drivers. And don’t forget about Brad K., that kid is driving lights out. What say you? And where the hell is my fish? 馃槢

  24. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Grump – I used to love watching Sayers, he could run just as good in the mud too. If I remember right it was Kermit Alexander(sp) who put the hit on Sayers.

  25. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Colts vs Bengals on NFL Network now. First play of game Colts go deep down the middle and Taylor Mays is defending as the Safety.
    He is beaten and grabs the receiver.
    Niners were smart to trade him
    otherwise they’d be cutting him.A 7th round pick is better than nothing. Mays should be happy because he keeps his 2nd round contract. That was the issue in teams not wanting him in a trade.

  26. robNo Gravatar says:

    carson palmer rumors ?

  27. robNo Gravatar says:

    hunter looks good !

  28. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    No, Rob, Hunter looks very good if not better.
    He’s a keeper. Just like fish over the size minimum.
    Speaking of which, where the hell’s mine? 馃槅

  29. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    The rookie CK gives (escapes rush) and the rookie takes away (intercepts). Gonna take some time. Hunter, yes Rob!

  30. robNo Gravatar says:

    dobbs and aldon look good !

  31. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    BTW enjoying the livestream such as it is Rob plus the NFL audio. This is a lot more like it!

  32. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Nice sack by those 2, yep

  33. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Still morning over here (11:25) so too early for the whiskey. How ’bout you Rob? Del? Bergs?

    God knows what Skeebs is doing… Less vanilla here tonight huh?

  34. robNo Gravatar says:

    me too ! what link you got ?
    mine sucks !

  35. robNo Gravatar says:

    have it !

  36. robNo Gravatar says:

    anybody like ronald johnson ?

  37. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:


  38. robNo Gravatar says:

    culliver , ron johnson , person and kilgore looking good makes this draft by baalke look better than i thought !

  39. robNo Gravatar says:

    crickets and big giant roaches here !

  40. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Agree on the draft! We desperately need to have better drafts! Jeez what did we get in 2009? Crabtree, RJF and Curtis Taylor? How long will Taylor last? Pathetic. The new coaching staff are gonna help TB make better choices!

  41. robNo Gravatar says:

    make that big giant flying roaches !

  42. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Ain’t the tropics grand? Saw these big flying bugs in the house- turned out to be roaches…

  43. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Shitty drafts? Hope this is just McClueless:
    Kentwan Balmer lasts a week in Carolina
    Posted by ProFootballTalk

    In 2008, Kentwan Balmer was a first-round draft pick of the 49ers. He lasted two disappointing years in San Francisco before being traded to Seattle for a sixth-round pick. Then he lasted one disappointing year in Seattle before being released and picked up by the Panthers.

    And now he鈥檚 lasted one week in Carolina.

  44. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, you guys ready for our FF draft? I asked the question over there, PPR or no? I’m a man of the people, lemme know…

  45. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Phil. Don’t know if you like the fantasy or not, be we have a spot open if ya like. Just us Niners fans farting around the league…

  46. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    I’d be honored to try my hand (mouse?) at the Niner fan fantasy football league Del. One problem is I know jack shit about it being an undrafted rookie and all. Could I be on the practice squad or maybe ride the bench for a year? (I have tremendous upside ya know). Maybe I could be a charity case and have a special coach who could explain it to me in comic book form like Nate D? I’m pretty sure you hot shot vets will appreciate a miserable bottom feeding cellar dweller in the league!
    Sure sign me up. Uh, now what??

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If San Diego cuts Scott Tolzien
    I’s pick him up and put him on the 53 man roster
    Tim Ryan was right. This guy knows how to read a defense which is impressive for a rookie.
    Chargers would be stupid to cut him but Niners stand to benefit
    if they do.

  48. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    I would too, sign him to the 9ers but Turner picked him up knowing he could be their future Qb. No way they cut him man.

  49. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 路 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 路 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 路 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 路 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 路 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17