Final Dress Rehearsals

The upcoming week is probably the last week of competition for starting jobs and roster spots. After next Saturday’s game against the Texans, the final two weeks of practice will be focused on the opening game against Seatlle, and the starters will be getting almost all of the reps in practices. Special Teams coordinator Brad Seely will finally know which guys he’s going to have on his various units.

The first roster cut down will be from 90 to 80, which shouldn’t be too difficult. But the next cut, a few days later, is a whopper, as teams go from 80 to 53. 864 bodies will be cast adrift around the league and many of these floaters will have some real value and get thrown a life line by teams needing to fill some last minute holes in their rosters. The 49ers seem to have enough bodies for their secondary, their entire offense, and only the D-line backups are a bit untested. It would not be surprising to see the team pick up a serviceable DT and/or DE from the floating 864.

Last Saturday’s squashing of the Raiders certainly pumped up the team, if not the blogopolis, which was tepid in its approval and optimism. A wary group of fans who have become all too cognizant of the ethereal value of preseason success and the team’s maddening inability to sustain that success in the regular season and in a regular fashion during that real time arena. This fan base has heard a lot of tell, but not seen nearly enough show.

Next Saturday’s game against the Texans should give us a better idea of how well our defense, and especially our secondary, is going to hold up this year. The Texans have a very good offense and it ran up a sizeable lead on the 49ers the last time the teams met. That game in 2009 marked the end of Shaun Hill’s tenure as the starting QB here and ushered in the second coming of the career of Alex Smith.

Looking back at that game, Hill is probably glad it happened, since it led to his trade to Detroit, where he is the unquestioned and invaluable backup to the oft injured Lions starter, Matthew Stafford. The Lions are also a team on the rise in the NFC Central, and only the Packers, Bears, and their own history of ill luck stand in their way of legitimacy in the NFL. That legitimacy may only be worth third place in their division, but to Lions fans that’s a quantum leap forward.

49er expatriates Manny Lawson and Nate Clements have not fared nearly as well. Both signed up with the bottom feeding Bengals this offseason and stand a very good chance of playing for a team that will be in the mix for next year’s number one draft choice. Clements is on the downside of his career, but good old Manny is in his prime and got run over pretty good by the lockout and the resulting free agency free fall. It’ll be a long, long year for those two.

Practices will be closed from now until the start of the regular season, so we won’t be getting any further reports from the 49er beat writers on the various fortunes of one player or another. I doubt any of us will lose any sleep over this news blackout, but the beat guys are a little pissed about it. Hahaha. Join the rest of us outside the fence guys. Do what we do. Make shit up!

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77 comments on “Final Dress Rehearsals
  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I agree we might look for a back-up D-lneman, but the guys we have are accounting well for themselves to this point.

  2. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The Texans will be a much better test than the Raiders, who stunk on glace.

  3. bigtimNo Gravatar says:

    it was a pleasant surprise to see a real offense function and at least move the ball and eat up yards and TOP.
    with this insane obsession on whether or not Alex can function in Harbaughs offensive scheme and the blogs forming ranks as to what there opinions are.
    I am really encouraged by the performance of the defense 2 words I would use to describe it stingy and stout.
    the real test will be against the Texans there a legit offense, sadly the Raiders are lame and they didn’t show much, was it them or the D that made them look anemic

  4. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    In fairness, which the Raiders never deserve, they have injuries to their RB McFadden and several WRs, not to mention Campbell went down early.

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Sounds like Campbell might be eating soup for a while.

  6. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    “Campbell might be eating soup for a while.” *groan*

  7. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Say what you will about the game, but the Raider D line is a pretty solid group that the Niner line dominated. This after the horrible NO game. Time is hopefully on their side as they get this group together and consistent. Definitely a game to build on, though.
    I’m down with the decision to go plain-Jane in the red zone, but you had to think they will be itching to get Braylon one on one for a fade route in the corner. They had the matchup on 1st and goal on the 3, but ran it instead. Not a giant secret, though. Edwards is already head-and-shoulders above all the other WRs. He knows how to go and get the ball. Something none of these other guys do. Smith NEEDS to take advantage of that. ANY time they get one-on-one coverage on Edwards, throw him the ball.
    Oakland didn’t run well, and the D line was decent with the pressure. Shit, there was a Haralson sighting. Maybe AF won’t be missed as much as I thought, but Soap was pretty much lost in the mix. RJF showed more than anything I’ve seen out of him in recent memory, and in the 2nd half there were a lot of 4 man fronts. Interesting.
    We’ve been down this long and lonesome trail with Alex, though. Can he come back and play well next game./ Even though this is still preseason, he needs to string together some quality starts.

  8. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- One big advantage we had vs Oak was they have a new head coach too. Texas should be a better comparison.

  9. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Weeeeell, their offense is being run by the same guy, Hue Jackson. He was responsible for a large turnaround by their offense last year. But, yeah, their O is crippled by injuries already. Their O line however, is bad, even when healthy.

  10. BergerNo Gravatar says:


  11. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Zeigler has been activated. but it’s hard to see him making the team. Lot of WRs ahead of him. Best hands on the team, though. I still think he’d be a great end zone receiver with his height and hands.

  12. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll be happy to see Ginn go. he’s (along with Norriss) just flat mediocre in an increasingly crowded WR field.

  13. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Just like I had hoped there was improvement in game 2: OL, QB, run and pass blocking, pass defense, run defense. Negative was special teams breakdowns, personnel groupings. But not bad for the 2nd f’ing game of pre-season
    Well shit people it was so quiet here I went over and watched Spit and Del on unca’s blog, that was entertaining. Spit is pretty smart and has been behaving, positive and rational! Holy shit. Dennis continues to be laying Lasordas and praying for failure of Alex Smith, poor guy. Predict he will not get his wish. Can’t blame people for being skeptical after years of crap tho.
    Then of course the internet was f’ed up yesterday.

  14. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    How was the weekend chuck?

  15. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t know why you’re so down on Ginn, Chuck. He did a good job as returner last year, which had been a sore spot for several years. He might have done more at receiver if he hadn’t got hurt and if they ever much used more than 2 WRs. He started the Raider game and made a tough catch over the middle.

  16. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Zeigler and Ronald Johnson are both fighting numbers at this point. Braylon and the Crab are your starters. Kyle Williams is the best slot guy. Morgan is a good possession guy, and far better if you can bring him off the bench.
    That’s already four locks.
    Ginn is getting a lot of return work for him to be cut. Frankly I would not keep him, as I think Adams is better for punt returns and no one is returning many KOs this year anyway, with them kicking from the 35. But I fear Harbaugh might not agree.
    If Ginn sticks, that’s five, on a team that will carry five and maybe six. I think Lance Long is bound for the PS.
    So Zeigler and Rojo are fighting, most likely at best, for one spot. Everyone else is just hoping to make someone’s PS.

  17. SUPREME72No Gravatar says:

    Hey guys, just wanted to chime in. i’ve mostly been a reader on here, from what had been said of camp is that Ginn has looked good but has had some drops too.They need speed on the out side,now they just have to develop his catching ability too more than 75%,i’ll take that.hate to see Zigler go but they need wr’s that can get separation. it’s going to be tough decisions when the 53 man roster is made. Finally some young talents! GO niners!!!!!

  18. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Welcome to the arena Supreme. Don’t be shy.

  19. SUPREME72No Gravatar says:

    Thanks, wont be!

  20. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    The main reason I’m down on Ginn is his drops. He never adjusts to balls thrown his way, and would be taking someone’s spot who is better than him.
    Kyle Williams I’d think would be able to match his return skills, and is a better WR.

  21. bigtimNo Gravatar says:

    that’s critical with Smith in there at QB to have a guy who wants to go and get the ball rather than have it layed in there perfectly.
    last game smith made some decent throws away from defenders, not a bad thing when you have tall strong guys who can go vertical and snatch the ball out of the air like Edwards,and Morgan.
    I don’t even know what to say about Crabs he has been such a MIA player all potential that’s about it,one things for sure he better start shining or my guess is he is going to be trade material, he’s got it pretty easy here as fans are desperate for decent performances,Edwards is starting to become a fan favorite with his circus catch and big body,I am becoming a fan myself
    he may not have such a easy time of it if he goes somewhere else.

  22. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Taylor Mays has been traded to the Bengals for undisclosed draft pick. That’s 3 guys from our 2010 team now on their roster.

  23. robNo Gravatar says:

    just a thought on ginn !
    imo he’s been the best return guy we’ve had lately ! as a WR he might be ok as the 4th or 5th wideout ! we could throw him in a few times a game just to run deep and keep the defenses honest !

  24. robNo Gravatar says:

    just for you guys who are a bit like me !
    did anyone notice that quite a few (fantasy)rankings have braylon edwards rated the 40th best WR and that brandon lloyd is rated 24th ?

  25. Supreme72No Gravatar says:

    You know how it is once you are a niner you become a bottom tier talent, plus B.E didn’t do much in NY and the browns.

  26. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t kid yourself. That ranking has a lot to do with who will be throwing him the ball. And rightfully so. Pretty hard for a WR to rack up fantasy pts. when he has no QB.

  27. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Edwards has top ten talent and has had both injuries and a lower 50% attitude at times. If he keeps his head in the game and stays out of trouble he is clearly our best WR since TO. Also takes a lot of pressure off Crabs. Crabs is now our #3 or #4 receiving option, behind Braylon, VD and probably Gore. Might spur him to actually work, or merely reinforce his funk. We’ll see.

  28. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bingo, Grump. If anything can spur Crabs, maybe it’s seeing how a real WR plays the ball. Edwards ain’t all world, but he’s head and shoulders above Crabs.
    The good news for SF is he needs to rehab his persona, and staying clean here, and showing what he’s got will go a long way. Maybe by the end, he’ll WANT to stay.

  29. robNo Gravatar says:

    c’mon you guys !
    i was picking on nolan and his baloney about only going with locker room yes men and his disdain for any free spirits or misfits ! that dumass had about 4 players with any talent when he took over as head coach and his first brilliant move was to cut , waive or trade about 2 or three of them ! 😉
    and lloyd , with all of that talent , was one of them !
    edwards imo might just have a better year than lloyd and imo the biggest reason would be because of the renewed commitment he appears to have made to football this year !
    edwards btw was the player i would have chosen with the #1 pick in 05 if no choice of a trade (down ) were possible !
    crabs imho will be even better than edwards in time ! (esp. after the catch )

  30. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Mays, another McCloughan guy gone. Bengals collecting our rejects; we better beat ’em.

  31. robNo Gravatar says:

    NO , as you very well might know , whether vernon was a nolan guy , a scott m. guy or both , i always liked him !
    think more along the lines of kyle kosier …
    another guy i liked but who nobrain didn’t even think was worth 900k per season to keep as an RFA …like i said we should at the time !
    since i just saw kyle KO-ZAR (like collinsworth says) on TV starting for dallas … and doing very well btw !
    oh well , like i said before braylon will probably do better than lloyd this season !
    after all , he’s no doubt a better player and the people doing the fantasy rankings always under-rate the 9ers players anyway !
    like … well vernon davis ! who i also had as my TE , even in our own niner insider league during his breakout season two years ago !

  32. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    For entertainment purposes only
    another V gem from SF Gate Insider.

    “The Gladiator days of savage, ball baric men are over, it’s a new world out there and we need to create a rosy picture not a destructive one.”

    The schnook keeps delivering his v-isms. This ranks with “esacaped goats”.

  33. robNo Gravatar says:

    not to be getting ball baric ;), but NOFEAR you got some good points in your reply ! some of nolan’s cuts were system decisions ! i just wanted him to work with the players we had more and not be so quick to release a guy before we had any new talent to replace them !
    he also cut guys who he thought didn’t meet his standard and tried to draft his type of guy !
    imo vernon was the exception and not the rule !
    oh and you very well know i got no agenda except that i’m always right !

  34. robNo Gravatar says:

    there’s a joker call V_67 on the insider now so don’t copy it if it’s not really V .
    HE’s funny enough on his own !

  35. robNo Gravatar says:

    gotta go work

  36. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- Do you think V is into hobson jobson?

  37. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Kory Sheets just got waived by the Fins. Wasn’t he the guy we waived a year or two ago?

  38. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Kory Sheets was the HOF RB that got away . . . just like Nate Davis.

  39. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    No angst for the Mays trade? An undisclosed draft pick? Can you say 5th round?

    Cincy is now officailly the Niners east.

  40. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    RT is going to get you for making fun of Nate Davis. He still wants him back.

  41. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Sheets was the preseason can’t miss talent that followed Thomas Clayton as the can’t miss talent and preceded the can’t miss talent of Nate Davis which has been supplanted by … whoever wins it this year!

  42. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Is SF to Cincy the new underground railroad for football players?

  43. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs- Can you say amen to Oman?

  44. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Reno, my guy Nate got screwed by Sing in 2009. 6-8, out of the playoffs, Hill already benched and Alex coming off his career trademark deer-headlights 40 QBR 3 first half pick game at Philly to get the Niners eliminated.
    Nate never saw the ball.

    Nate spent the off season being big fish in small town. Nate blew it, and with luck he’ll have a fine career in the UFL. Check the Colts blogs, and you’ll find fans wondering why Nate got cut last week instead of the other two doofus backups.

    Nate instead of Carr? You betcha. Nate instead of whoever our 3rd stringer is now? Why not – you honestly think it would make a difference?

  45. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    RT, baby! You’re back on the Nate bandwagon! These old flames die hard.

  46. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Nate Davis was cut because the Colts had more faith in Curtis Painter and Dan Orlovsky and a crippled Peyton Manning.
    How many more times will ND be cut before he chooses another profession. He has athletic ability but lacks ability to read defenses and that’s a problem.
    Some of his “fans” have suggested letting him just go out there and free lance.
    Not the way to build a winner by just winging it.

  47. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Nate might have been a good QB. After the Eagles game, Donovan McNabb offered to train with him in the off-season and said “Nate will be a starting NFL QB.”

    McNabb was a black guy from a non-football northern school who had a similar Wonderlic score (I believe McNabb scored an 11, which you get for signing your name. Nate signed an “X”, so he didn’t quite reach that pinnacle.)

    There’s no accounting for stupidity. Nate opted instead for enjoying his $400K instead of preparing for 2010.

    He still got as many Pro Bowl selections, led his team to the playoffs, led his team to a winning season, and finished in the top 18 in QB passer rating just as many times as Alex! And that for a 5th round pick in only 2 years…

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    V has his V-67 alias, posing as BullitWongRazor and also Bulllit.
    He’s the one with 3 ls.

    You can tell it’s him because his posts are long and drawn out or talk about the Yorks

  49. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Hi RT! I wasn’t trying to flush you out but thought it could happen. Glad to see you here.

  50. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Reno! I’m in wait-and-see mode. I won’t believe anything I read or see until about Week 5 or so.

    Too many changes since last season, lockout, etc.

  51. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think that is reasonable.

  52. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Two preseason games, the Saints I saw, the Raiders I didn’t. What can I tell out of that? I remember 4-0 last year and 3-1 the year before. My opinion of preseason games without a real training camp? Pfffffft

  53. Unca ChuckNo Gravatar says:

    Fangio didn’t like what he saw, apparently.

  54. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I think the official word was, ‘he can’t move laterally and change direction’. Kind of tough to be a DB and only run in a straight line.

  55. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    What a waste of our 2nd rd pick of just two years ago. I don’t care how much Singletary may have lobbied for Mays, Baalke was the de facto GM and had final say. If Sing bullied him into making that selection, then Trent’s a pussy.
    I’m sure glad Jed conducted that nation-wide search. Mickey Mouse.

  56. robNo Gravatar says:

    outsider meet and greet ?

  57. robNo Gravatar says:

    i still like taylor mays , he hits like a truck ! the good news is m. williams , goldson and reggie made him expendable !

    btw i also wanted to see more of thomas clayton and thought sheets might have helped out as a 3rd down back !

    i guess clayton was one of those preseason wonders who turns out to be just that !
    kendall hunter thankfuly (think baalke vs. scott m.) makes sheets a non issue !

    that just leaves nate davis …

  58. robNo Gravatar says:

    oh , one thing that’s bothering me is anthony dixon ! he looked sooo good in preseason last year , but can’t seem to follow up on it !
    anybody have any input ?

  59. robNo Gravatar says:

    omg please help me (california guys )!
    we just had an earthquake on the east coast !
    the completely impartial nbc news anchor says quite a good many people were
    ” shaken awake ”
    by the quake !

    omg ! that must be even worse than having to get up to pis …

  60. winderNo Gravatar says:

    rob – Yeah, Sheeeeeeeet or get off the pot. Like many of our recent RB’s theres lots of potential but little production. Dixon should be able to show us exactly what he’s got this year.

  61. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis, didn’t we just draft Mays last year? I guess Singletary wanted to give us one more present to remember him by.

  62. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I heard Sing and Baalke had a major arguement over Mays, obviously Sing won.

  63. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Newton isn’t the only rookie QB struggling

    Here are the stat lines for the six quarterbacks chosen in the first two rounds of the draft:

    Completions/attempts, yards, TD, interceptions

    Cam Newton 7/14, 66, 0, 0

    Jake Locker 8/18, 82, 0, 1

    Christian Ponder 6/12, 63, 0, 0

    Blain Gabbert 11/23, 96, 0, 0

    Andy Dalton 8/19, 86, 0, 2

    Colin Kaepernick 6/8, 52, 0, 0

    Between the six they managed 0 touchdowns, 3 interceptions, with no one passing for over 100 yards and only Kaepernick completing more than half his passes. Obviously it’s way too early to really tell if any of them will turn into stars or even solid starters, and no doubt having an abbreviated training camp hurt with their ability to catch up with the faster speed of the game at the NFL level and to learn and feel comfortable with their reads and timing. Still, it surprises me that none of them have been able to put a solid game together. Of course I’m surprised MLS is still around, so maybe I shouldn’t be.

  64. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, I believe you’re just looking at last weeks stats. In his first preseason game, Jake Locker went 7/10 for 89 yds and a TD. (130.8 QBR) I don’t know about you, but I’d call that a “solid game.”

  65. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    What happened to my horse?

  66. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    This blog has turned my avatar into Col. Klink. Horseshit! If anything, I’m Sgt. Schultz. “I know nothing.”

  67. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    So you are on record now as a Locker lover. We will keep track, just for you.
    I did not write that post, I copied and pasted from a national article.
    My point was how well our QB did, nothing more. I guess I’m nuts for being happy about a 49er QB, right?

  68. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- Obviously, you see nothing and know nothing.

  69. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, I’m already on record as being a “Locker Lover.” No need to keep track. Would I rather have Locker than Kaep as our future QB? You betcha.

  70. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’d rather have Kaep.

  71. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    So, if Frank doesn’t get restructured to his liking, would there be any chance of enticing Miami to cough up a pick so he could play at home and complete a Bush/Gore Backfield?

  72. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    They’ve signed Larry Johnson for cryin out loud.
    Sounds like a desparate attempt to locate a qualified RB to me.

  73. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You do look like Colonel Klink. It suits you

  74. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    This is a bad year for big contracts for most players, just ask Goldson. Frank has age and injury issues. I don’t see the Niners matching the big contract DeAngelo WIlliams got. Unless they’re crazy.

  75. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs is punishing Del with the new avatar, hahar

  76. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I didn’t do nuthin’ to Del’s avatar. He shot his own foot somehow. New post is up.

  77. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Did he shoot it with his mauff? Yahuck.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17