Farewell Parties

Just over three weeks until the start of Free Agency. Hopefully, that will give the 49ers’ FO enough time to finish assembling an entire coaching staff, or at least parading them out there in a formal introduction. But, maybe Jim Tomsula has run out of old friends who have been out of the league for half a decade.

The most prominent 49er FA is WR Michael Crabtree. He’s already disassociated himself from the team on his Twitter account, so it’s safe to say he will not be returning for a seventh year here.

When he’s gone, there will be no one left from the 2009 draft, no one from the 2008 draft, and the only guys remaining from Scot McCloughan’s tenure as GM will be Patrick Willis, Joe Staley, Vernon Davis, and maybe Frank Gore, if he is re-signed, and Justin Smith, if he doesn’t retire.

This is Trent Baalke’s team now. And that’s surely the way he wants it. He doesn’t want it to be McCloughan’s team or Jim Harbaugh’s team. Be careful what you wish for, Trent.

Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver, our starting CBs last year, are also FAs, along with LG Mike Iupati. It will be interesting to see if the 49ers re-up any of these guys. They can all probably get better deals elsewhere in the league, and we know the Niners don’t give anyone top dollar. Staley and some others have in the past signed home town discount contracts, but given recent events, it could be hard to convince any players to take that route now.

In the end, the guy who lost the locker room last year wasn’t Jim Harbaugh — it was Jed York.

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  1. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Not sure why there is a news blackout and a veil of silence on the coaching staff.” Said Bullit

    Yeah it is weird. Maybe York is trying to figure how to spin his brilliant moves of late? A majority of fans on blogs I read are highly dubious of the current Niner leadership.

    Then there is Charles the Foist

  2. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The upside to the possibility of losing Iupati and Crabtree, if there is one, is the Comp values involved vs, the Cap money required to keep them.

    Iupati will command some high dollar interest on the open market in all likelihood.
    Crabtree, probably didn’t help himself with the injuries and below par production in his final year.

    Like RBs, WRs are beginning to slide in terms of FA Contract offers.

    I chalk much of this recent trend in ‘bargain signings’ to the Rookie Cap.

    More teams appear to take chances on Rookies in the Draft, while holding their rights and, perhaps, finding a developmental bargain, hoping to retain them before letting them test the FA Mkt.

    Good Drafting is the lifeblood for Cap Mgt.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    What still pisses me off is that night that Jed sent the tweet was also the night that Wilson and Dickie dined on turkey sitting on the Niner logo at Levi’s.

    This is something that Jed and Trent neede to address but they have been silent as the Sphinx about it. It was bad enough to lose the game but to have that crap happen on your logo on your home field was rubbing salt in the wound. Someone in the 49er front office agreed to it and they should be canned.

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Nichelle Tafoya is a tool and next time she visits I hope she
    gets reminded of this BS she helped orchestrate. I hope the players don’t forget.


  5. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit that little Turkey Day Feast was set up by the folks at NBC I’m sure.
    I’m sure Jed and the FO had little to do with it.
    Just sucked that the hated rival enjoyed the spotlight at our expense.

  6. winderNo Gravatar says:

    bullit – the way to counter something like that is for us to beat em. We played like crap that day and I hope Jed had to pick up the tab.

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Grammy Awards night
    Jed, Trent and Jim’s dysfunctional theme music from the show


  8. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Rebuilding or ‘reloading’? Is there any difference?

    New coaching staff, 4-5 new starters on O, 2-3 new starters on D. Sounds like semantics to me. Balkey seems to be saying something like: “Just moving forward to filling out my vision of my kind of team = not McCloughans”. Only Willis, Staley, VD and Gore left from the Scottie days?

    Fine, if it flies I’m happy. We’ll see…

    But this bunch is seemingly aloof from communicating with us fans.

  9. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Given the nature of the communications we get from Jed, I’d be happy for him to stay behind closed doors for awhile Phil.

    It’s time to prepare for FA and the Draft anyway.
    Combines in 10 days as well.

    Glad to have Gamble on board for the talent eval phase at least.
    I think he’ll help Trent immensely when all is said and done.

  10. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Doesn’t matter to me, who’s wearing what title on the Staff either.

    Just get it together and, figure it out, before the troops arrive in April.

    Concentrate on the roster.
    The, find some busy work for Jed, that doesn’t interfere with this phase of the process.

    I’m numb to all the media theatrics at this point.
    Let the dust settle and keep working to tie it all together.

  11. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t know about York staying away NJ. His fingerprints seem to be all over the team = Fires Hendrix, fires a bunch of coaches, hires Tommy, goes cheap on new coaches, spins the SB mantra, talks about Kap running more. York = Jones Jr I fear. This with a new stadium netting $100 million / year reportedly.

    So who do the Niners get at QB to back up Run Kap Run? I think they need a vet (Locker?) and a draftee. Names? Ideas? Assuming Logan gets Kap up to speed we still need functional backups right?

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    What bothers me about Jed is he sells everyone to hold him accountable and the buck stops with him. He proclaims that if the Niners don’t win a Super Bowl then blame him.

    I believe if he takes this stance he should at the very least hold a Q&A press conference with the media once a month.
    Just pisses fans off if you make all these bold statements and then go into hiding.

    In hindsight with all the legal problems Baalke should have been at the podium with Harbaugh to answer the 49ers stance at the very least. More likely it should have been Jed or Marathe
    even if they stonewalled answering questions on advice of attorney. Harbaugh was the sacrificial lamb that had to handle all the questions because upper management hid in their ivory tower.

    If Jed wants to interject himself he needs to answer questions the fan base has in a public forum.

    Joe Lacob as a new owner of the Warriors endured a humiliating
    boofest by fans when he bought the team. To Joe’s credit he did not go into hiding but has always made himself accessible to answer tough questions. Jed can learn from Joe Lacob.


  13. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Some background on Lacob getting booed.

    IIRC this ceremony for Chris Mullin came shortly after the Warriors traded Monta Ellis for Andrew Bogut.
    Ellis was a very popular player but his presence on the roster
    was going to inhibit both Steph Curry and Klay Thompson because Ellis was a volume shooter who needed the ball to put up his numbers. In return the Warriors got Andrew Bogut an older but elite Center who was damaged goods and would not play until the following season. The trade pissed off some of the fans who showed their displeasure.
    As things evolved this might be the trade that turned everything around and a major factor that contributed to the Warriors being one of the top teams in the NBA.
    To Lacob’s credit he didn’t go into hiding and now he stands to reap the rewards and the accolades that come with success.

  14. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, this is less about Jed and Jim and much more about Trent and Jim.

    That’s the dividing line. Jed happened to side with his GM rather than his coach.

  15. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Why are you talking about basketball, Bullit? When I did that you went nutso.

    As usual you talk out of both sides of your ass.

    But it’s different now, right?

  16. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The point being, the GM is supposed to be the buffer between the owner and the coaches. Not the power-grabbing instigator of turmoil.

  17. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    What planet are you on, Chuck? GMs and coaches traditionally have the most potential for adversarial relationships. It’s the owner who needs to keep them working together.

  18. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    “Not the power-grabbing instigator of turmoil.”

    Seems like that was the charge many blog ex-spurts hurled at Harbaugh and are still trying to make stick. Now it’s the guy whose daughter tweets against the team like the owner’s son?

    Yeah, seems like the wrong guy got fired. And the staff would have remained through a new GM hire, or CEO replacement. And the Super Bowl doesn’t require nearly the force of wishful thinking it does today.

  19. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I thought O-line guys were supposed to be smart: “Alex Boone wanted a clause preventing him from getting tagged (for $12.83M in ’15). His entire deal is worth $6 million.”

  20. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    From Eric Branch: “Heard from 49ers player who thinks changes to coaching staff will hurt team in 2015: “Everyone will see soon enough,” he said.”

    Wow. Season hasn’t even begun and Tomsula has already lost the locker room. Waiting for confirmation from Takeo Spikes or Deion Sanders and their vast inside 49er connections.

  21. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry Skeebs. You were wrong on the thread and you are wrong now.

    What’s funny is you discount that player stuff all last year and now it’s relevant?

  22. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This from Texas 247 Sports from today talking because Longhorns are looking for a Defensive line coach
    “Chip Brown of Scout reports that another defensive line coaching possibility is Bryant Young. Young played for Strong at Notre Dame before embarking on a 14-year career in the NFL for the San Francisco 49ers, followed by coaching stints at San Jose State and Florida. Two years ago, Young abruptly left Florida for family reasons and has not returned to coaching since, although he has expressed his desire publicly to return to coaching”

    I hope Baalke did his due diligence and talked to BY before making his hires.

  23. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Still waiting for one player to come forward and talk about the divided 49er locker room BS. Until that happens it’s nothing but the vortex of BS that the gossip trolls put forth and they like to embellish by a factor of 100..

    Branch quotes Gore and Eric Davis on the topic
    “Before the penultimate game of this past season, running back Frank Gore said he wanted Jim Harbaugh to return to the 49ers in 2015.

    Gore’s reasoning was simple. He won 49 games, including the playoffs, in four seasons with Harbaugh. Before Harbaugh’s arrival, he won 37 games in six non-playoff seasons.

    Simple, right?

    “He gave me my best seasons as a professional,” Gore explained. “As a professional, you want to win. And once he came here, I won.”

    Harbaugh, of course, is gone. And so are several high-ranking assistants who arrived with him in 2011 and were part of three NFC title-game appearances in four seasons.

    So how will the 49ers react to the dismantling of a successful coaching staff? Posed that question, NFL Network analyst Eric Davis echoed Gore. Davis, 47, a former 49ers cornerback who served as their radio analyst from 2011-13, suggested there could be locker-room skepticism because the team parted ways with a winner’
    It’s going to be a big deal to the guys in the room – the guys whose butts are in the seats who have learned to win, experienced winning with those other (coaches),” said Davis, a 13-year NFL veteran. “The veterans on that team – they lost for a long time. Vernon Davis. Frank Gore. Pat Willis. These guys – your core guys – lost with other coaches, and they started winning with (Harbaugh).”

    Davis acknowledged Harbaugh wasn’t universally loved in the locker room, but he was appreciated because the 49ers went from ridiculed to respected during his four seasons.

    “Like him or not, one thing I do know – and I’ve heard it from them – they liked the winning,” Davis said. “Every coach has quirks, every coach has his way of doing things and there’s no way you’re going to get 53 guys on that roster to feel comfortable with what’s going on all the time. And that’s how it was with Jim Harbaugh. But those guys liked it. They trusted the coaches that were in the rooms with them. They trusted the message that they were getting from those guys. So now you’re going to have rebuild that.”

  24. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well that doesn’t address the open questioning of the play calling by VD, Gore, Crabs, and Staley last season. Guys who are team leaders.

    ED ‘suggested there could be locker-room skepticism . . .”

    Got it. You have direct quotes from players that you disregard, yet something like this is taken as gospel.

    Much like your imaginary conversation between Rathman and BJ regarding Kappy’s film study habits.

  25. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The two apologists clammed up when it was revealed that Geep Chryst was responsible for calling plays inside the red zone last season.
    Now he’s been promoted to OC and they guy they ranted and bitched about who they accused of incompetence unjustly is gone.

    So is Roman “collateral damage”? Did the apologist hanging posse string up the wrong guy?

    This is what happens when you really don’t have all the info and jump to conclusions.
    You end up throwing out the baby with the bath water and instead of tweaking with a scalpel they decide to go with a chainsaw.

  26. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes York chose Balkey over Jimi and therein lies our problem. York is not very wise tho likely smart. We see the result and we’re going to see more. We are not better off and most get this certainly including players. Tho unlike us they must keep it mum.

    QB is our biggest player issue -regarding development of Kap and getting backups. Except for a brief renaissance under Kap/Gro/Hendrix the O has been simplistic-weak since Garcia-Owens-Mooch.

    There is no guarantee the D will perform as well either. Bowman coming back at full speed will be important. Then there are the usual questions at CB. I think Balkey needs another draft with ready to play guys on the DL, DBs.

  27. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Try to learn to read and comprehend you ignorant troll.

    “So how will the 49ers react to the dismantling of a successful coaching staff? Posed that question, NFL Network analyst Eric Davis echoed Gore. Davis, 47, a former 49ers cornerback who served as their radio analyst from 2011-13, suggested there could be locker-room skepticism because the team parted ways with a winner”

    The skepticism is on Harbaugh’s departure you dolt.
    I used to think you read at a 3rd grade level. I see I gave you too much credit.

  28. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    2014 had a predetermined outcome regardless of what happened on the field, SB or not, and that was the winning HC was going to be fired regardless. There was no follow up plan except ‘Tommy for HC’ as we see.

    This far outweighs the grumbling of players who didn’t like their reduced playing time and/or losing games. Far outweighs because it was from the boss not the few employees.

    Yes York is hiding but the damage remains unaddressed. But the $100 million/year keeps rolling in.

  29. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    According to Kawakami, 4 guys were calling plays. It’s a wonder we got any plays off in time.

    Talk about a cluster ****

  30. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So the Niners hire 2 coaches from the LSU Tiger staff, McGaughey for ST and Adam henry WRs. Boldin’s brother has alson been hired to be an assistant.

  31. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Really Bullitt? I though it was what Brent Jones’s gardener heard about Kappy’s film study habits.

    Skippy, The skepticism is about the new coaching staff, btw. Harbaugh’s departure is not up for debate or discussion. Harbaugh is gone. Duh……. Jesus. Get a grip. You are losing it badly.

  32. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Like I said it’s a shame that the educational system failed you and you aren’t able to read.

  33. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    WR coach Adam Henry did pretty well with Odell Beckham so he’ll be an upgrade over Morton

  34. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Archie Cooley for head coach!

  35. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, I’ve always shied away from College QB prognostications, when doing my Draft research.

    Problem being, the systems rarely equate to the NFL.
    As with Kaep, we see what happens, when young pups are asked to see the game in the fast lane.

    It’s always a high hurdle to clear.
    One thing I did, and continue to see from Kaep, is his mental makeup.
    He’s got that ability to bounce back from a bad play and, continue to battle.

    If taught properly, I see no reason for him to fail.
    I’ll take a stab or 2 at the QB position before the Draft.

    Right now, I’m feasting on the depth of DLine guys and waiting to see who’s who in Indy.

  36. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    For all the turmoil associated with the Coaching changes, many other teams are equally challenged in that regard.

    We’ll see where the Staff can take us when the time comes.
    This game still comes down to players making plays.
    Good talent still exists for us.

    It’s incumbent on the Staff to find a structure that puts them in a position to be successful.

    That is the reason I lean toward the GM, to have a plan, for the type of personnel he’s shopping for.

    When the HC and GM can agree on that plan, things normally fit.
    If Logan/Chryst can fit Kaep with an Offense, that he can Master, we should be fine.

    Time will tell, certainly.

  37. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Kappy’s done here, NJ. At least with this crowd. Harbaugh had everything to do with the playoff run, but nothing to do with the moribund offense throughout his time here.

    Kaepernick had nothing to do with those wins, including road playoff wins, yet everything to do with last year’s offensive struggles. Funny, no?

    Keep making up your own reality, Bullitt. Eventually you’ll find an acorn. Well, maybe a dingleberry or two.

  38. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, I’ve felt that the problems we’ve faced were in the passing attack.
    We’ve been unable to groom a young WR or TE.

    For that, I’ve felt the Coaching could have been questioned.
    We’ll see whether the new regime can improve guys like Patton, Ellington and VMcD.

    Harbaugh ran a run heavy Offense, with an OLine largely devoted to that agenda.
    If we can find a balance up front that can produce better Pass Pro, things could easily improve.

  39. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Harbaugh’s departure is not up for debate or discussion. Harbaugh is gone. Duh……. Jesus.”

    Proclamation from Charles the First

    Speak for yourself. The fallout from the sabotage of the winning HC will go on for years. This is a much bigger deal than the dumping of Alex Smith.

    Win a SB and this maybe goes away. Otherwise dream on Charles

  40. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t understand the blaming of the coaches for the lack of passing yardage. You’ve all seen the Alex Smith show. If you’ve forgotten, it continues in KC with what “everyone” said was all Smith needed. A new system with a new offensive minded coach. And an NFL record for ZERO TDs to a WR in a season is the result after what, ten years a starter?!.

    What would you have had Harbaugh do? Play to win with what he had, which is a top defense, a field position S/Ts, and a QB who was best at checking down the ball, which is what he did, or force us to play a pass heavy, short possession game which wasn’t likely to succeed? Oh, you’ll take the wins but you want them your way!

    He got rid of Alex to let the better armed and better skilled PASSER be the starter. And you’ve all seen what happened. He changed the offense to feature the pistol and the read option to help Kaepernick get into the game more without having to run every play where the primary receiver is covered and to better see the defenses develop on the field.

    And you’ve all seen what happened when we forced the passing game this year. Pass or bust, like you wanted. Blame the coaches? I don’t see it. But I guess that’s the way it has to be if the bloggers are to remain so smart.

    Maybe the coaches knew what they had for a passer and a pass blocking o-line. No, that couldn’t be it. Coaches know nothing on the scale of bloggers armchair knowledge.

  41. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    There’s plenty of blame on Kaep too NoFear49er.
    He’s not ready, to dissect a Defense quickly enough, and succeed in the Pocket just yet.

    I’d put a good amount of his development on Chryst perhaps but, we certainly don’t know what limitations they had with Kaep’s ability to absorb it either.

    I do think they need to tweak the ‘middle’ with Kaep.
    Something that features a more mobile approach maybe?
    Designed roll-outs?

    He’s too quick to scoot.
    Standing still in the Pocket isn’t comfortable to him at this point.
    Maybe Logan has some new ideas?

  42. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hopefully his time in AZ with EXOS will improve his Pocket awareness.
    He’s too accustomed to using his legs instead of his eyes.

    I’ll remain optimistic that he can get there.
    Steve Young took a similar route, before he got over that hurdle.

  43. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    From all that has been divulged, since Harbaugh departed, I have to think that there were higher expectations, on Kaep’s development perhaps?

    All this ‘Teacher’ stuff seems to suggest that he didn’t come up to speed quickly enough.
    Might’ve been a bigger challenge, for Harbaugh/Roman, to devise something for him to succeed with?

  44. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    If so, NJ49er, it’s a BS message. Jed wants a “teacher” for Kaepernick because he doesn’t “see” enough of the defense or the options in the play pattern and implies publicly that Kaepernick doesn’t run enough? WTF?

    They brought in Harbaugh to coach and he coached them to three division title games in three years all while Trent and Jed were conspiring behind his back to undermine his authority with the players and his credibility with the fans so they could oust him and what? Hire a coach who coached better? Or just a coach who was more compliant with their idea of owner and GM running the team on field from the owner’s box?

    You can’t base anything about Harbaugh’s dismissal on anything that transpired this year because the plan to get him out was already in motion before the year got started. No, sir, this is about the GM and his hold on the boy king and their desire to control everything about the team whether they know anything about it or not.

    The culture they’ve created here is poison. It’s a culture of backstabbing and undermining by tweets and created by rats. Rats who knifed their coach in the back in public while the team was still in playoff contention. Who wants to work here or play here? Harbaugh and the players still coached and played their asses off to the end. And he’s the guy that needs to leave?

    It’s an impossible situation for Tomsula to do anything coaching-wise. If we win you can be sure the rats will get the credit even if they have to leak “the word” or employ their kids on the twitter-verse. If we don’t Tomsula’s head will be easy to take, as he’s already bent over.

    Despite Chuck’s pronouncement, I haven’t given up on Kaepernick. I was afraid his smug swaggering attitude was doing him in and I was happy to see him admit he needed to work on his game and actually do something about it. In fact, if he keeps the attitude of working and trying to get better, and actually puts in the work, I have more hope for his success than I do for the team.

  45. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    There’s probably a good amount of those ingredients there, in your assessment NoFear49er.

    I’m not sure where the rumors started that got linked to Jim’s ouster prior to the season, only what surfaced about the Seattle game loss timeline.

    It very possibly could have been the NFCCG loss.
    That’s what my immediate reaction was, until I read the post ascribed to young Harbaugh.

    I can understand if things weren’t rosy between Trent and Jim, if we buy into those reports.

    What still has me scratching my head is, whether Jed is applying pressure to Trent?
    I’ve sided with Trent, simply because he’s got a football pedigree.
    Also read that he’s an obsessively passionate guy, which we all know, Jim was as well.
    It may have just gotten to such a fever pitch, that Jed simply didn’t know how to patch it up?

    I agree, Jim changed the losing culture, it won’t be an easy thing to overlook, especially for the guys in the locker room.

    Now, it’s every man for himself.
    A patchwork Staff, new ideas, the whole 9.
    If, IF Jed is applying a stangle-hold on Trent, we’re in deeper than we might realize.

    Said it many times, let Trent sink or swim.
    He’s been in this business, from the ground up.
    Jed simply rubbed elbows with Uncle Eddie, on his journey to the Ivory Tower, which scares me into thoughts of Daniel Snyder.

    I pray I’m wrong.

  46. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We know how things went with Eddie and Bill.
    A real pressure cooker partnership.
    Many folks have reported that Carmen Policy was the peace maker in those years.

    I don’t believe there’s enough insulation between Jed and the locker room.
    Hoping Gamble can improve that situation.

    OK by me for Jed to have his authority over the team, he’s been given the reigns.
    I just hope he isn’t sitting on Trent’s shoulder, dictating policy, on things he’s not qualified to control.

  47. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t see how, NJ49er, with Baalke as his boss. Baalke may need the help with player personnel though, to give him more time for his head coaching duties.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing a focus on better quality players and less quantity perhaps. The quantity seems like Baalke’s idea of success but most of his project players have flopped.

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I have said this before. About 2 years ago I read that the Seahag strategy was to bring a heavy rush from one side and flush Kap to one side of the field and have the secondary press and cover accordingly.
    Once he is squeezed to one side of the field both his passing and running options also get limited because the space is combined.
    Leaking VD to go across the field on the backside has worked in the past but this takes a few seconds more and requires the QB to keep his cool.
    I have not seen from Kap the ability to slide in the pocket to avoid the pass rush. Qbs do this on a regular basis and eluding the initial rusher can get you an extra 3 seconds if you keep your cool and it opens up the field and allows your receivers to get open.

  49. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    What has killed the Niner Defense in the past against the Seahags is that their receivers have faith in Russell Wilson to buy time in the pocket and they find open spots in the secondary 5 or 5 seconds into the play. They know if they keep running that Wilson will find them and he has.
    This is a very simple concept and it doesn’t take a genius to implement.
    It has also been said that Kap has superior flat line sped to Wilson but it takes him a second or two to get going and Russell Wilson has the jackrabbit quickness to scramble in the pocket and avoid rushers.

  50. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    should read 5 to 7 seconds into the play

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er I’m OK with Baalke taking a few projects, so long as the starting group can afford them the time to develop.

    By and large, he’s assembled depth with that approach.
    Drafting isn’t a science, so much as it is a crapshoot.
    He’s at a crossroads now, having to move forward from the last pieces of Scot’s Picks.
    Having Gamble should help.

    I think much of our future hinges on Kaep and his continued development.
    Our OLine was largely assembled from Scot’s efforts, run heavy guys that aren’t adept at pass pro.
    That could change certainly.
    See where they go with Brandon Thomas and maybe a move with Anthony to LG if Iupati bolts?

  52. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Is this a case of role reversal?
    The Raiduhs hired Del Rio who was ok at Jacksonville until his team went into a losing cycle and he was fired. They made a bold move hiring Norton Jr for DC and the local media applauded that move.
    In the meantime the Niners hired the fired Raiduh DC Tarver to coach LBs, the fired Raiduh head coach Sparano to coach TEs and they let go of Mangini only to bring him back at DC when their other choices opted out.

    The local media says and one might agree that the Raiduhs are rising and the Niners are sinking with the coaching changes.
    These are self inflicted wounds by the Niner FO.

  53. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Raiduhs just brought back Rod Woodson to coach their DBs.

  54. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit that’s a practice many teams utilize.
    Flushing a QB to his weak side cuts the field in half.

    Kaep doesn’t elude rushers like Russell does.
    He prefers to scoot.
    Russell scrambles.

    Once that happens, Secondary coverage breaks down.
    One way to stop that is to contain Russell with a pass rush designed to hem him in.
    This Draft should provide some younger DLine options to accomplish a more versatile rush.

    Again, it’s always evolving in this business.

  55. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s the rub Bullit, good Coaching and quality players usually produce a good team.
    Jury is still out on Reggie McKenzie in the GM role.

    He’s going to have another shot at top 10 options.
    We’ve moved into top 20 territory for the 1st time in some years.
    Baalke has to take advantage of the better slots this year.

    I’d go heavy for the Dline and Defense in general.

    Be nice to snatch a taller outside WR too.

  56. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As for Mangini, I didn’t understand the move to TE Coach from the start.
    He’s a Defensive guy.
    I have no problem with Sparano joining the Staff, he’s got some quality assignments on his resume, which can certainly help Tomsula.

    We are where we are now.
    Hoping for the best of course.

  57. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bringing back guys like Foerster and Tarver means a move back to guys lost when Harbaugh took over.
    Foerster isn’t a bad re-up.
    Not real sure about but, let’s hope he’s got something to offer.

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    One thing we know, Oakland got a Win against us this past year.
    We can only hope for the best at this point.

  59. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Foerster was hired from the Ravens by Nolan and fired by Singletary in 2010.

    Many on the blogs applauded. I guess he’s a better coach now that he’s been fired in Washington for breaking their QB.

  60. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    OK, thought he was still aboard when Harbaugh arrived NoFear49er.
    I have no issues with him.
    Hoping he’ll get this group back in sync for us.

  61. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As for breaking RG III?
    I think it’s the other way around.
    RG III thought he was allowed 15 seconds in the pocket to decide where to throw the ball.

    I still think Kaep is a better prospect than RG III BTW.

  62. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of DC, I’ll be interested to see how McCloughan moves around the Draft Board this Spring.
    He’s got his work cut out for him over there.

    Not the least of which is, RG III’s impact on available Picks.
    Does Scot look for a QB?

  63. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    What you see from the apologists is spin and propaganda.
    A basic BS smear campaign that Harbaugh and Roman were lousy coaches and to give a recycled Geep Chryst who was central to the offense as QB coach another shot because he was “the keeper”
    of the trio.
    I’ve always believed in “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”. I don’t much care for the predetermination that you would get rid of your coach no matter what the circumstances and then leak this info out in an attempt to undermine him and make yourself look better. This ego driven behavior is destructive
    and inexcusable on Jed’s part because he’s not looking at the big picture.
    If he truly felt Harbaugh’s differences were irreconcilable then he should’ve gotten rid of Harbaugh before the season
    rather than waste everyone’s time and a year.
    The major reason that jed couldn’t do this in his mind was the Niners moving into Levi’s which would been a clusterf*ck PR move. So we are left with a dysfunctional year filled with leaks and innuendo backstabbing basically coming from upstairs.
    Dysfunctional doesn’t even begin to describe what happened.

  64. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This is a very down year for QBs in the draft.
    Might have to look at a veteran QB.
    Last year both Gabbert and Josh Johnson were a waste of roster spots because they never had a chance to get into the game short of Kap being carried off on a stretcher.
    By veteran QB I mean someone who can come in and run the offense, not guys that sub in to just hand off.

  65. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Wait, I thought the royal proclamation decreed no discussing Hendrix? Now we’re going to calmly discuss Kaepernick when it was pronounced that everyone hates him?

    Gotta hope we don’t lose our heads like Charles the First.

    Actually seems like there has been a lot stirred up by the Niner brass over the past year or more. Starting with the aborted trade of Hendrix to the gulag. Must talk about all that or go nuts despite the frowns of his majesty while we await the verdicts on the field.

    What veteran QBs are out there? Anybody know much about Locker?

  66. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    From Bay Area Sports Guy:


    Here’s a list of unrestricted free agents, via NFL.com:

    Jason Campbell, Cincinnati Bengals
    Jimmy Clausen, Chicago Bears
    Matt Flynn, Green Bay Packers
    Blaine Gabbert, San Francisco 49ers
    Matt Hasselbeck, Indianapolis Colts
    Shaun Hill, St. Louis Rams
    Brian Hoyer, Cleveland Browns
    Tarvaris Jackson, Seattle Seahawks
    Josh Johnson, San Francisco 49ers
    Ryan Lindley, Arizona Cardinals
    Jake Locker, Tennessee Titans
    Ryan Mallett, Houston Texans
    Luke McCown, New Orleans Saints
    Colt McCoy, Washington Redskins
    Matt Moore, Miami Dolphins
    Dan Orlovsky, Detroit Lions
    Christian Ponder, Minnesota Vikings
    Mark Sanchez, Philadelphia Eagles
    Tyrod Taylor, Baltimore Ravens
    Scott Tolzien, Green Bay Packers
    Joe Webb, Carolina Panthers
    Michael Vick, New York Jets
    T.J. Yates, Atlanta Falcons

  67. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    On that list the most attractive guys are Locker, Mallet, Moore, Ponder and Hill. If the Rams can’t come to a deal with Bradford and release him you might take a chance but he’ll cost you $5 mil min.
    Need a QB that can run offense and push Kap in training camp and preseason. Having your starting role threatened is a good way to bring the best out of players.

  68. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Those guys all suck. Truth is if we get to the backup we’re toast. Just like every other team. Hill? Why not? Bradford would be the only one worthwhile but you have to think the Rams try to keep him upright one more year. Teams like Philly did well to stay viable when down to their 3rd guy.

    Cherry pick away Bullit. Truth is this passing games was rooted in 1970s Michigan football. It was not improving by any measure.

    Just about anything is better than what we had. Harbaugh’s best offensive stats came when Kappy played half a season. 23rd was the high-water mark for St Jim.

  69. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    WCO is based on less than a 10 yard throw and then YAC.
    Problem with Kaepernick is his throws were inaccurate that most receivers couldn’t stay upright to catch his passes.

    I have been saying that throwing an accurate catchable ball was more important than showing off your arm and throwing rocket balls into the ground. Bill Walsh always stresses the importance of throwing a catchable pass and Phil Simms took that advice to heart and became a better QB.
    The same happened to Elway who added some touch and finesse to his game and finally advanced his team into the Super Bowl and had success.

  70. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Didn’t you and Berger declare yourselves football “savants” and said you didn’t need stats to prove your point?
    Now you always seem to trot out stats that you cherry pick to help your narrative. The usual hypocrisy we’ve all come to expect. That’s why you guys are dumb and dumber.

  71. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You seem to be stuck on stats that you once eschewed.

    The most important stat is wins and losses. 44-19-1 .695 winning percentage

    You say 23rd but I see 11th? Still lying and trying to fool people with your BS? Stick your foot in your mouth again.

  72. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Passing yards, skippy. Passing yards. Winning record doesn’t mean shit, as Peyton Manning proves time and time again. Peyton threw for a zillion yards, yet was one and done again.

    Struggling to beat shitty teams, a la Washington, Chicago, Oakland, and StL was a big problem last year. You may call the Washington victory a high-water mark, but I saw a team with many many offensive weapons struggle against the worst defense in the league. They couldn’t put that game away, and as usual relied on the defense to win for them. Same with the Giants game. Oakland was the same deal. A team that was shut out by the lowly Rams, we couldn’t mount any kind of offense. We couldn’t block for the run or the pass and the defense fades amid injuries and 3 and outs.

    This team lost 6 games in which they had the lead or were tied at the half. 6 games.

    There’s your problem. The inability to counter the other team’s adjustments.

  73. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If you read Chuckles and what he says on his blog he is always disingenuous here just trolling for arguments.

    Chuckles thinks that York/Baalke will micromanage and control everything on the field also. So if you read between the lines according to Chuckles this was actually all orchestrated by Trent Baalke to get Harbaugh out and put his hand picked guys in.

    What is ridiculous is his ongoing narrative that this is an improvement. The proof will be either winning the Super Bowl or averaging 11 wins a year with the new coaching staff controlled by Trent.

  74. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t declare myself anything, but thanks for noticing.

  75. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I see you’re saying passing yards wins the Super Bowl? Winning games doesn’t matter. Maybe in Chuckles Land.

    But then you say Kap was just fine as a QB and a field general.
    Aren’t you chasing your tail here? Even a novice football fan knows that if your QB doesn’t function your passing game is dead in the water. Explain to me how you can have an effective passing game if your QB is stinking up the place?
    You just stuck your foot in your mouth again.

  76. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Now I’m beginning to worry about you. Not only do you have huge problems with reading comprehension but now you seem to have expressing yourself in writing.

    You said
    “Passing yards, skippy. Passing yards. Winning record doesn’t mean shit, as Peyton Manning proves time and time again. Peyton threw for a zillion yards, yet was one and done again.”

    You just bit your own nose off before you finished your sentence. Put some thought into responses because you are making a fool out of yourself. LMAO!!!

  77. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Jesus. The common sense fairy skipped you in line. I’m glad I give you something to do. Even of it is tangential bullshit.

    The goal is what it had always been. Win the Super Bowl. Harbaugh failed in that quest. He had a strong team and 4 years to get it done. He didn’t. What part of that is up for debate? He posses everyone off and leapt at the chance to go home to Michigan.

    Since you can’t tell the difference between an effective passing game and what the Niners have been doing recently, well sorry, skippy. Do some homework.

    If the Niners had a better passing game, they’d be a better team. Can you dispute that? God, the stupid fairy must have come back for sloppy seconds.

  78. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    This team lost 6 games in which they had the lead or were tied at the half. 6 games.

    There’s your problem. The inability to counter the other team’s adjustments.

  79. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Isn’t it sad and pathetic that you can’t defend what you post?
    That hole keeps getting deeper and deeper.

  80. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s see if we can summarize today’s version of the wild and wacky world of Chuck:

    1. All we need is a better passing game to succeed.
    2. Manning passed for a zillion yards and he still failed.
    3. Winning doesn’t mean shit.

    Thanks, Chuck. Can’t wait for more scintillating hilarity.

  81. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Holy shit. Hasselbeck is still around? How old is that guy now? 40?

  82. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Passing yards is the key? Kaepernick had his best year to date in passing yards in 2014. His most attempts, his most completions and his most rushing yards and attempts. And that’s not counting the 34 drops of passes deemed catchable balls by various receivers not using stickum like Jerry Rice.

    All you can ask of your backup QB is he not lose the game for you in tough ones and maybe wins a couple of the ones you should win. Getting to your backup doesn’t mean you’re toast unless you don’t have a decent backup.

    Baalke didn’t have a decent backup on the roster he controlled. It’s in his contract, so I hear. Jed still thinks Kaepernick should have run more? He’s no head coach, contrary to popular blog opinion.

    Grumpy, I think Patrick Willis put Matt’s career on ice along with a few body parts. He’s a tough guy and a good QB and who wouldn’t like to make three or four million a year to come off the bench for a few games? He’s playing at the age most kickers would retire.

  83. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Kappy may have had his best year, NoFear, but that was good enough for 23rd in the league in passing yards. All this team needs to do is come up with an offensive scheme that isn’t so easily read and stopped. Sustaining drives has been an issue for a while.

    Boowwitt, your stupidity knows no bounds.

  84. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Boooowwitt thinks Denver and St Jim have won Super Bowls recently.

    2006 was a looooong time ago.

  85. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    If it’s not broken don’t fix it?

    With Ray Mac, Justin Smith, Brooks likely/already gone that leaves Aldon S. alone along the DL from last year.

    So good time to cut the all the D coaches right?


    Hey Charles the First wasn’t worried either until it was too late

  86. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Iirc Mangini and Tomsula were part of this coaching staff.

    We need line depth, but Tomsula got Carradine ready to play, and Dial has been ok. I’m not that worried about the defense. Williams and Dorsey should be recovered, as should Bowman and Willis.

    The Geepster and the offense are my concern.

  87. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuckles must be hallucinating again.

    When did I say this? “Boooowwitt thinks Denver and St Jim have won Super Bowls recently.”

    Just keep making crap up in your delusional mind.

  88. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    So, every year 31 head coaches should be replaced for “not getting it done?” Regardless of the play and/or injuries of the players?

    Why give a coach more than a year to “get it done” then? Why give the GM more leeway?

    We don’t fly conference banners. We don’t fly division banners. We fly the ‘come coach and play for the idiots. We won’t treat you like we did the last guys.’ banner.

  89. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuckles posted this earlier today

    “If the Niners had a better passing game, they’d be a better team. Can you dispute that? God, the stupid fairy must have come back for sloppy seconds.”

    Chuckles seems to also have a short attention span that leads to his lack of understanding of the simplest of things.

    As we all recall at Tomsula’s introductory press conference Jed York, Trent Baalke and new Head Coach Jim Tomsula all said that the Niners would run the ball more this year. If you believe what was said that blows a hole in Chuckles’ plan for improvement.
    Maybe Chuckles has moved in with this “stupid fairy”?

  90. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, they carved that in stone the day of Tomsula’s hire you feeb. Get a gofddamn clue and shut the heel up, you brainless twit.

    Harbaugh had 4 years and he had a strong team that he inherited.

    HE wanted out when the Michigan job came up. All the BS around the rest of the year was just more grist for the mill. What shoud the outcome have been?

    $40 mill for this shitty offense? No thanks.

  91. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    “$40 mill for this shitty offense? No thanks.”

    Says Chuckles the guy that said let’s give Kaepernick $25 mil a year because he might walk.
    Still don’t know why Chuckles is so concerned about how much York pays the coach.
    IIRC Chuckles has no problem with an owner spending $300K a night on booze and hookers but God forbid we pay a successful coach market value.

  92. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    “We fly the ‘come coach and play for the idiots. We won’t treat you like we did the last guys.’ banner.”

    LMAO. Good one, NF. Someone should make that banner and sneak it into Levi’s.

  93. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    As previously said both Gore and Justin Smith are good measures
    of what the players think of the Niner chances to compete for a Lombardi this year.
    Also signing Cox and Culliver will show you how serious Baalke is approaching this coming season. They need to keep one of these guys or there will be more questions in the secondary.

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    There has been no details on the conditional 4th round pick the Niners traded away for Stevie Johnson.
    Does 35 catches and 3 TDs meet the conditions for giving up the draft pick?
    Right now that is a big unknown.

  95. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Culliver and his anger management issues are likely gone. Unless winning with class includes hit and run.

  96. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The 1st comment makes more sense than the article.

  97. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    IOW why doesn’t anyone write articles about the regression of the coaching staff?

  98. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Because the only place coaches regress is in the minds of blog coach wannabes.

  99. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    What happened in 2014 is easy to understand, if understanding is your goal. If pushing an agenda or defending one is the goal, then understanding will of course elude you.

  100. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Of the people continuing to try to justify the firing of Harbaugh, I have yet to see one person say that Tomsula and the new staff gives the team a better chance to win. And win, period, let alone a Super Bowl. The best they can do is say “maybe” the new coaches will be okay. Seriously?

  101. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gee, your agenda is to blame the QB that got them to the Super Bowl 2 years ago.

    So, you think Kappy ‘regressed’ despite the coaching he got?

    Because all I hear now is that Kappy didn’t do enough to get outside coaching til this year. Why is that? The inference I get is that the team coaching wasn’t good.

    But that goes against policy here. When you hear teams like Atl, Sea, and StL among others all say they knew what was coming from out offense, isn’t that a bit alarming to you?

    I guess not. The Singletary idea of ‘ here’s what we’re doing, stop us’ is all well and good, but teams catch on. You can overwhelm bad teams, but good ones figure it out.

    Which is how this team lost 6 games where they were in the lead or tied. What does that tell you?

  102. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    25-14, 50 TDs to 21 ints In 39 starts. 90.6 rating. 1576 yards rushing.

    4-2 playoff record including road wins in GB, Carol, and Atl.

    Yeah? We shoulda gone with Gabbert, Skeebs.

  103. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Like I said at 11:04, it eludes you.

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Remember Chuckles embraces Deion and Michael Irvin as experts on all things 49er.
    He puts down one of the Niners all time great TEs Brent Jones
    as having no knowledge of what’s going on with the team.

  105. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuckles says
    “Which is how this team lost 6 games where they were in the lead or tied. What does that tell you?”

    In the Bears game Kap gave the game away throwing 3 ints and fumbling the ball away.
    In the Rams game Kap had the game won if he sneaks the ball in from the one foot line. He fumbles. Game over.

    That would make the team 10-6 but Chuckles has selective memory.

  106. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    The difference in opinion here can be easily explained. Sometimes you start with evidence and work toward a conclusion and sometimes you start with a conclusion and work the evidence.

    Some folks become well known as workers of evidence and have been blaming coaching for everything as far back as I can remember. Nothing like knowing ahead of time what the strategy is!

    The only question is how long before they turn on the current crop. I give it half a season, tops. And I guarantee it will be because ‘they needed a few games to form an opinion.’ An opinion that’s been there forever.

  107. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Problem is, NoFear, is that I’ve been complaining about Harbaugh’s offense for a few years now.

    The red zone offense, the 3rd down conversion rate, getting plays off on time, and 3-and-outs have all been issues under Harbaugh, and I’ve noted it the whole time. It’s not like I came up with this last week. Beyond that, these problems existed under a different QB as well. So who’s at fault here?

    I don’t see Alex smith getting a lot of delay of game penalties in KC.

  108. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Again, bulltit, show me the quote where Brent jones talks to tom Rathman regarding Kaepernick’s film study habits. Show me where he says “Based on my observations, I don’t think Colin Kaepernick studies enough film.” The Jones quotes you point to are nothing but speculation on his part.

    At least I can tell the difference between supposition and fact.

    You may choose to ignore Irvin, and by proxy, Crabs, but that’s your deal.

    Do you think Crabs sticks around?

  109. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gee Skerbs, you agree with me. About time. Your 12:04 reply works both ways. Theta just more existence on my side that the problem with this team had been the coaching. Mainly on offense.

    Here’s my conclusion, NoFear. Did we win a Super Bowl under Harbaugh?

  110. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Evidence not existence.

    Damn iPhone.

  111. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Steve Young has his doubts about firing the winning coaches and hiring Tommy:


    IOW he has his doubts about the FO incl. child owner. Who doesn’t?

    Kap regressed and has failed to progress for several years. Kid sabotaged the team and tried to split the locker room. Injuries on D allowed a lot of teams to catch up and win games in 2nd half of season, 2nd half of games.

    Don’t lose your head banging it on our wall.

  112. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    “Here’s my conclusion, NoFear. Did we win a Super Bowl under Harbaugh?”

    That’s not a conclusion, it’s a question. And it’s more than a bit simplistic and ignorant for a guy who’s been watching pro football as long as you have.

    If that’s your idea of what football is, well, it’s not mine and we’ll never agree about much about football.

    You’ve been complaining about the offense since I can remember, too. Always because it’s not the offense you want to see.

    The casual fans, the girls and the fantasy football newbies, all they want to see is long bomb passing and defenses blitzing. We haven’t been that and you’ve been complaining about the coaching for it, even when we win more games than any other team in the league for three years running. So what’s new about that?

    It is more exciting and fun to watch I’ll grant, but head coaches are hired to win games, and fired when they don’t. No points for exciting games.

    I’ve seen you cheer for and then berate every head coach since Nolan. So what’s new about that?

    You’re cheering Tomsula now, does anyone think you won’t turn on him soon enough? I doubt it.

  113. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I don’t need to convince you about Brent Jones.

    On 49er blogs Brent Jones trumps your guys Deion and Irvin everyday 24/7.

    Too bad so sad.

  114. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The most confusing part, of all this turmoil with Harbaugh, for me, was the talk of a Contract extension that got ‘tabled’.
    Jed made the comment that he’d like to have had Jim negotiating from a position of strength.
    Suggesting, perhaps, winning the Lombardi.

    Or, it might suggest, that Jim was asking for too much money no?
    We certainly don’t know how bad things were behind the office doors.

    If Jed was willing to openly negotiate an extension, I’d have to think there was some goodwill, on Jed’s part, to take that step.

    Knowing what the history was with Jim, regarding his abrasive nature, it might have been a situation where his expectations, and Jed’s were just too far apart.
    Who got more miffed is up for debate.
    Who resorted to smear tactics, also is anyone’s guess.
    Knowing Mike Lombardi’s relationship with Jim, Cleveland may have known of the discord and made the pitch for Jim’s services?

    Yes, it sucks to go back to square one, following the dramatic improvements Jim brought to the locker room.
    Whether the Michigan job changed things that dramatically, we’ll never know.

    As it stands now, we’re looking at wholesale changes, that may, or may not, be easy to swallow, depending on your POV.
    All we can do now is, hope for the best.

    Jed made his decision, the results of which are yet to materialize.
    Safe to say Tomsula is severely handicapped in the expectations department.

  115. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Kap’s regressed for several years? He’s played 2.5 seasons.

    Funny thing is Young calls that a Super Bowl roster that Harbaugh coached to an 8-8 record? Hmmmmmmm.

  116. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, whoever said it was more money that Harbaugh wanted, besides Chuck, I mean? Harbaugh said he didn’t want more money. He certainly didn’t push the money issue for a new job. Why wouldn’t you think he wanted some say in who played and who stayed and who got drafted? Especially since the biggest problem seemed to be the GM and HC co-operating.

    In hindsight I’d guess the new contract hemmed in his authority. But it doesn’t matter. If Jed wanted him out, he’s out. Wait until the end of the season. Don’t make it a locker room divider. Don’t disparage him for an entire year in advance with rumors and tweets. And spend a little of the year you had to plan for it, to plan for it.

    The back-stabbing atmoshpere created here for coaching hires is entirely on Jed. The ridiculousness of going from a staff that wins to a staff nobody knows is entirely on Jed. And for what? Harbaugh can be an abrasive personality? BFD. He’s winning, grow up and get in the game with the big boys.

  117. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er, this is the topic du jour.
    My thoughts have been, ‘what went wrong and why?’
    Jed ponied up for the Assistants as I recall, specific to Jim suggesting he didn’t care about himself.

    Naturally it’s on Jed, he made the call to dismantle the Staff.
    All I’m suggesting is, what went so sour that it couldn’t be worked out?
    I certainly can’t make any sense of it.
    All we’re doing here is poking each other in the eye with the same frustrations about the outcome.

    Jed owns it.
    All I can do at this point is to see what happens.
    For whatever the reasons, it got bad enough to blow it up.

  118. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t doubt that Jim got involved with the personnel decisions either.
    How much friction resided there?
    Again, we’re left to speculate.

    I do feel that Trent was the guy who convinced Jim to take the job in the first place.
    I also believe Jim made the call for Kaep, maybe LMJ?

    Did Jed fault Trent for Jim’s hire?
    How would we know?
    I take the leaks with a grain of salt too, since it could come from Agents, Players, or any of dozens of other ‘anonymous’ sources.
    As you suggest, if Jed was backstabbing, he sure didn’t give himself too many options or, he succeeded in poisoning his own well.

    All we can hope for at this point is, that he learns enough from this lesson to be more prepared if this process comes around again.

  119. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    If the leaks came from other than little Jed, he had plenty of opportunities to put them to rest and instead fanned the flames whenever he could. He removed any doubt for me when he tweeted his spoiled little kid “apology” while we were still in playoff contention.

    Harbaugh and his players fought until the end despite all the nastiness coming his way and never returned the nastiness but always downplayed it. Makes it pretty clear to me. And who negotiates a head coach’s contract in public?

    The kid bagging your groceries at the A&P probably shows more attitude than Harbaugh anyway.

  120. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Agree NoFear49er, the Tweet served no purpose IMO either.
    Did more harm than good, no question.
    The whole fiasco was ugly and, poorly handled.

    All I can say at this point is, it had to be pretty nasty behind the scenes, for things to have gone as badly as they did.

    I don’t doubt that Jed wants this team to succeed.
    As we all do.
    I can appreciate his position as the Owner, he calls the shots.
    In the end, he answers to the Fans, the people buying his ‘product’.

    If things do get ugly, he’s the guy that answers for his decisions.

    Hoping for the best from a bad situation.

  121. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Jed may want to win, but he doesn’t need to win. His big deal was a stadium. Gideon Yu’s crowd will support it for years without too much winning going on.

    Jed says he’s accountable, like politicians are accountable. How does he answer? By firing Tomsula? Baalke? The whole bunch? I bet he doesn’t fire Jed. So what’s his accountability amount to? Nothing buy hot air and someone else losing a job.

    Hoping for the best along with you, NJ49er.

    btw, so how come you don’t appreciate Jerry Jones’ position as owner? ;-0

  122. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er, that’s a VERY big worry in my book.
    Jed becoming TOO much like Jerruh and Danny Snyder.

    I’ve long felt that the NFL is on a fast track to Corporate partners.

    Playing to the High Rollers at the expense of us Avg Joe’s.

    PSLs and naming rights are just the tip of the iceberg.
    High Rollers don’t tailgate, they enjoy the ‘convenience’ of $15 beers, inside those new high-tech stadiums.
    The stadiums us Tax Payers finance for them.

    Less stabbings and fights too I’m sure.
    Looking more and more like another bastion of privilege for the Corporate Class.

    The Corporate-types sure wouldn’t mind a kid like Jed, flexing his Ownership muscles, by throwing Coaches overboard either I’d imagine.
    Shows ‘leadership’ in their World.
    Screw the rest of us.

  123. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Knowing what the history was with Jim, regarding his abrasive nature…”

    Says who? First heard this from Maiocco during the immediate aftermath of the aborted trade to CLE.

    What are the facts?

    1) Stanford offered Hendrix a substantial raise and a contract extention not to go to Santa Clara. I guess the Stanford AD is a lot tougher than the Niners brass. No reported problem with an ‘abrasive nature’.

    2) USD AD said “He drives a hard bargain and keeps on driving it”. So the AD said he’s a tough negotiator and “We love what he did for us here”.

    Sounds like somebody is selling the old “Hendrix is a problem” narrative now ressurected again. But no evidence ever offered to support it. York never counters these because he couldn’t handle a tough successful HC who got him what he really wanted = a stadium that pays his family $100 million per year. Profit.

  124. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I was a die-hard NY Mets fan way back.
    Team did well, found a winning combination into the 80’s.
    They couldn’t help themselves I guess.
    Decided there were too many ‘crazies’ in the Clubhouse.

    Winning wasn’t enough.
    They wanted choir boys.

    Then GM, Frank Cashen, decided to start dealing away all the talent, in an attempt to ‘clean up’ the image apparently.

    Once the deal was done to trade away Lenny Dyskstra and Roger McDowell, to the Phillies, for Juan Samuel, I went ballistic.
    Happened to be driving my Wife’s car at the time that trade was announced.
    I literally slammed the dashboard as I was driving.
    Split the vinyl right to the windshield.

    That was the day I stopped following the NY Mets.
    I love the 9ers like I loved the NYM.

    I can’t envision a divorce from the 9ers.
    But, then again, I haven’t followed an ounce of baseball since the day that trade was made either.

    What I’m saying is.
    Don’t push me Jed.

  125. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Phil –
    It’s been a long tedious ride to be sure.

    I’ve digested quite a lot of opinions regarding Jim and his ‘makeup’ from many a venue.

    Given the scope of his playing career, his sideline demeanor and, those reports that made it out by way of guys like Maiocco, I can only guess at, what took place inside 4949 Centennial, to drive things to the extent it went.

    Apparently, Jed and Jim just couldn’t coexist.
    All we’re left with now is another ‘do-over’.

  126. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Whatever is said about harbaugh last season I believe he always prepared the team to play competitively on a weekly basis.
    The only game where they were really flat was against the Raiduhs.
    One real blowout which was Denver and games like the Seahag one where they slowly put the game out of reach.

    The criticism that they couldn’t hold leads made me look into the why.

    Against the Bears it was Kap and his 4 turnovers especially
    two picks thrown in the 4th quarter. Kap threw INTs at his own 35 and 22 yard lines to set the Bears up for scores.
    You cannot give away the ball in your own territory and then blame the coaching staff. I can’t buy thae idiotic concept of blaming playcalling when your QB is giving the ball to the other team.

  127. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17