Et tu, Brute?

The past week has showed us that predicting Trent Baalke’s game plans is not a good way to make a living. He fooled everyone last year and he’s done it again this year. We expected big news last year, and he stayed on the back pages and shopped the bargains. Okay. That worked. So, we expected he would do that again this year. Nope. Instead he’s a regular front page headliner. And all without ever having his name surface anywhere.

The man knows how to stay low and close a deal, that’s for sure. Last year, he signed Donte Whitner off an airplane going elsewhere. This year, he signed Mario Manningham while the WR was visiting the Rams. If it’s the eleventh hour, watch your Baalke.

It looks like the expected upgrade at the wide receiver position has been accomplished. Something old (Randy Moss) and something new (Manningham). It’s tempting to say, yeah, but we lost Josh Morgan. Not hugely tempting, I guess, but a little. In fact, we lost Josh last year in October to IR. The WR crew we were upgrading, the one that stunk in the playoffs, didn’t have him in it.

Of course, the big headline maker is the pursuit of Peyton Manning. This little gem has set the 49er fan base on fire. The Niners have turned into drama central. Every day, a new twist. And nobody knows one damn piece of solid information. A Baalke trademark.

But Jim Harbaugh and Trent Baalke sold out the locker room in this affair, turning “blue collar guys” and “mighty men” into sham slogans with a one year shelf life. They did it by selling out last year’s hero like he was, well, a Nobody. That doesn’t bother the Smith Haters, who are looking for instant gratification of any kind, something to get the egg off their faces that Smith splashed on last year, but there are fifty guys in the locker room who most definitely are taking notice.

Maybe running a ruthless operation where your word means nothing will work, but if the 49ers don’t win the Super Bowl next year, then it failed. There’s no other way to see it. If the chants against Alex Smith have diluted down to “He’ll never win a SB” then the same criterion must be applied to Peyton Manning — and more so. Anything less than a Lombardi Trophy next year will be unacceptable.

Joe Montana was a great teammate. One of the guys. So is Smith. Manning is not. He’a a corporation. He’s better than you … nobodies.

Manning was a fabulous regular season quarterback, maybe the best ever, but his postseason record reads Choker. He’s 9-10 in the playoffs and is more famous for throwing the killing interception than making that fourth quarter winning drive with the season on the line. He had eleven shots to win a Super Bowl and came away with the prize only once. And in that winning year, 2006, he put up 3 TDs, 7 INTs, and a 70.5 QBR as his playoff contribution. IOW, the team won in spite of his poor performance.

This is not an “I Love Alex” or “I Hate Manning” post. It’s an “Et tu, Brute?” post. And it says here that Harbaugh has revealed himself to be a liar and a phony. Either that, or we’ve just seen the first GM/HC philosophical rift. And whether we get Manning or not, the damage is done and can’t be reversed. Who’s Got It Better has instantly become Watch Your Back, Baby. It’s one thing to support your QB at all costs until you find a better one, but quite another to pal around Pebble Beach like true friends in front of the whole world a month before sticking a knife between his shoulder blades.

The “we’re a family” motif just got flushed down the toilet. Maybe that will equal more wins, maybe even championships, but it sure pisses on the 2011 season, only a mere two months after it thrilled 49er Nation and the team itself. That family atmosphere made the 49ers seem different than the rest of the league. It was fun. Now it’s just another ruthless enterprise. Where’s the organization that did things with class? MIA.

So the unseemly fawning over The Manning will continue into this week, while His Royal Magnificence ponders which franchise to donate his superbness to. Even the great John Elway is running around the country on his knees, begging. Egad. But Elway has desperate as an excuse. When did the Niners get desperate, too?

One thing is clear. If Baalke doesn’t land Manning, he’s completely blown this offseason — and the 2012 season, too — but good. A gamble that wasn’t even necessary. And he will have done it by lowballing and disrespecting the most important and loyal player on the team. And should that be the outcome, Harbaalke will deserve all the boos they will surely receive. Both in the stands, on the blogs, and in the locker room.

Smith rides off with a 13-3, NFC Championship OT appearance in his saddle bags, with only a butter fingered punt returner between him and the Lombardi. Let’s see if Peyton can top that. Or even come close.

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  1. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I think yer Baalks are showing. Do we know Alex and his relationship to Harbaugh/49ers has been irreparably damaged by this business of shopping for a QB? No we don’t. It’s easy to assume but wise old Alex has put his agent on notice and called the 9ers game by a swift visit to Miami to secure Plan B. Has Alex been through far worse than this at the soiled hands of the 49ers? Yes he has @ Singletary, Nolan and countless OCs flip-flopping around like politicians trying to buy votes. Is Harbaugh a liar who destroys relationships with sadistic glee? Maybe but there’s no evidence yet of that. Would Alex scurry back to the Niners if given the chance? No doubt. Would the team rally to him and Harbaugh having crossed this bridge, with or without Manning? Yes fer sure. Is this out of character for JH who has said repeatedly “I will do whatever to make this team bettah every day”? Why no.
    So I don’t get it this thought old Jimbo/Baalks have gone off their rockers and screwed the team chemo completely up. Naw they’re smarter than that. Problem is We’re not used to sharp operators around here. There’s just too much we don’t know at this point Skeebs. If Smith is back and I hope so he will be on fire after this latest psych job by old Harbs. As will the team
    I’m raising my prediction for this year from 10-6 to 11-5 just because

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Hope the Peyton Manning doesn’t do
    the ESPN type news conference reveal of where hes going. Just leak it to Schefter, Glazer or LaCanfora and have a followup Q&A.
    With a reveal type media event you are slapping two teams in the face. I guess I’m just tired of Lebron and his superfriends.
    Also sooner is better than later as the Niners are in limbo right now.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Heres an interesting rumor.
    If Niners fail to sign Manning and Smith and go Kaepernick, Josh Johnson, Tolzien or ?? at QB they might turn and make Mike Wallace an offer. Interesting rumor

  4. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs this is one of the few times i haven’t agreed with you. There may have been the ‘family’ thing in the locker room…but it’s still a business. I personally think very highly of Alex Smith. And i think most of his team mates feel the same way. But most know he’s not that elite QB. (I do hate that term) Hell when you look at his playoff record Manning may not be either. But if Harbaugh could improve Alex’s play …why couldn’t he improve Mannings? And an improved Manning would be pretty good to say the least. Actually im not convinced Manning will come to San Francisco. And im not so sure thats really what this whole adventure is about. I’m thinking Harbaugh wants Smith here, but as a transition to Kappy or Tolzein, probubly sometime this season. How best to ‘show’ Smith that he’s not the future? Prepare him for a possible QB change, and not 3 to 5 years out. I think Smith would be ok as back up here in San Francisco, and i really believe thats what this a about.

  5. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Tony, I don’t expect many to agree with me. No problem. It’s just my opinion.

  6. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    I think Smith would be ok as back up here in San Francisco, (for the record..i ment that i think Smith could live with that rather than go somewhere else)

  7. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Somebody was asking this morning if Brett Favre thinks this Manning thing is taking too long!

  8. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    At this point, I’d love to see all 3 remaining teams tell Manning to take his $90 mil demands and shove it.

  9. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    tony- IMO, if Manning signs here Smith is long gone. I do not see a back-up QB situation here for Smith.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I say let’s see how this all plays out and when the real truth comes out because right now it’s all speculation and assumptions.
    For me the most curious aspect of this is that Manning called the Niners out of blue to gauge their interest which apparently they were. Get an answer to that and also if their offer to Alex Smith has been on the table during their evaluation of Manning or was it suspended pending the outcome?

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I know what you mean and where you’re coming from about this Manning/Smith Niner QB situation.
    Your point of view in song

  12. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    That’s not my point, Bullit. Any team is free to change QBs or any other players. You can be honest with them, or in this case dishonest. For a guy like Harbaugh, who plays the honesty card big time, this is clearly a tawdry affair.

  13. Mr FletchNo Gravatar says:

    Is RB Mike Tolbert (formerly @ SD) still on the market? He’d be a nice pick-up to back-up Gore when he gets his seemingly inevitable out-for-3-to-5-weeks mid-season injury in 2012. Kendall Hunter is a great change of pace back, but I’m not comfortable with him as an every-down kind of guy.


    (Wanted something out there that wasn’t Manning/ QB based…)

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Tolbert just signed a 4 year contract with the Panthers.
    He would be their 4th running back
    as they have Deangelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, Mike Goodson and now Tolbert.

  15. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Manning going to the Broncos

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Officially and I emphasize OFFICIALLY you never heard anybody
    with the 49er FO or coaching staff comment on Manning or acknowledge their interest.
    Two players Alex Smith and Frank Gore have made comments to the media.
    The truth will come out and we move on. Now the question is does Alex Smith come back?

  17. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck’s been saying all along that AS won’t sign until Manning does. Looks like that is right on target.

  18. Mr FletchNo Gravatar says:

    Guess we’re going to see how this whole Manning situation affected things. My guess is that we’ll hear a lot of “we’re very pleased with how things turn out” and we’ll get a reprise of this whole conversation next off season, except it will be Smith-Kaepernick next year.

  19. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    I respect your opinion Skeebs, but I don’t think it as dire as you illustrate. The reason why depends on what you think the private (amongst the team’s) assessment of Alex really is. JH stood behind him from day one, calling him elite, suggesting he should go to the Pro Bowl, etc. Many fans think that Alex, despite his best season, is still only a serviceable, game manager type QB and will never elevate much beyond that. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant. If it is also something that is privately shared by his JH, the FO, and his teammates, then JH’s behavior all along has been something they can see right through. The recent pursuit of PM and their “lowball” offer just might fit their impression of his ultimate worth as a starting QB and not be some new revelation.
    And no one on the team is going to go public and cast aspersions on AS. By all accounts he is a truly good teammate who does everything he can to contribute and win. I think other players respect that. But in the end, they very well may have a different, private, and less favorable opinion of his actual worth.

  20. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Then why pal around in public like best buds? That’s a whole lot more than in-season support.

  21. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t have an answer to the whole caddying angle. I thought it was weird when I first saw it. I also thought it was a bad idea — just in a general kind of way regardless of how good or not I thought AS was. HC relationship with players IMO shouldn’t include caddying, etc. Ever.
    But damage done? I don’t think it is so dire.

  22. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, there’s really been nothing ‘official’ from the 49ers regarding Manning, other than they went to the workout. I don’t think this screws any relationship in any way. Does it paint Harbaugh in a bad light? Well, sure, somewhat, but Manning is a shoo-in HOF QB. Even if it’s behind the scenes, you put ut the feelers. Besides, the NFL is a business. If you have a chance to make the team better, you take the shot. In other words, if Montana can go through something like this, so can Slex.
    All will be forgotten by OTAs, provided Smith stays here. I really don’t think he goes to Miami. No one in their right mids would go there willingly.
    The fact that Smith left Miami without signing anythig says he’s looking to stay here. Tennessee? Haven’t heard word he’s looking to go there.
    What I think happens is the Niners offer Smith a deal a little better than the one Flynn got. He got 3/26. Smith gets like 3/28, 3/30?

  23. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe it won’t be dire. But the players would have marched through fire for Harbaugh last year. They’ll think twice about it now. For a guy who’s always looking for a slight edge, he just lost one.

  24. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t see that at all. What I see is a team that is doing all they can to win.
    Harbaugh did what he did last year with what he had. Most of the players understand the business side of the game. For all the talk of camraderie and unity, teams NEVER stand pat. And if they do, shit usually goes wrong. They had a shot to get a HOF QB. It didn’t work out.
    That being sauid, they need to get Smith back. If they don’t, THEN there will be fallout.

  25. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Moral of the story like any workplace never get too buddy buddy with your boss cuz one day he might have to can you.
    Friendship and business can coexit to a certain extent.

  26. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    My feelings aren’t hurt, NoFear. This isn’t about whether Smith is good or bad, to me. It’s about loyalty and friendship. There’s few things worse in my book than selling out a friend. You should understand that aspect, as well as anyone.

  27. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    In fact, that’s what bugged me the most about Spitblood. It wasn’t his views. I had every reason to believe, all in all, that he was my friend and he respected this blog. He sold me out for nothing more than a morning whim.

  28. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, according to EPSN’s Chris Mortensen, the Niners ‘original’ offer to Smith for 3/24 was never GIVEN to him by the team. They may have floated it past Condon, but there never was an offer on his table for him TO sign.

  29. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh DID make a point of saying this year he doesn’t have any friends. Maybe Alex should have paid attention.
    Frankly, if he is butthurt about being almost replaced by a HoF QB, I don’t want him back. Either get your priorities in perspective, sign the best contract you can get, and come into camp ready to fight for your starting job – or GTFO.

  30. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Before the FA period, I’m sure Smith was basing his contract on what Kolb got in AZ. (5/$63/18 guaranteed). The Niners came back with their 5/24. If Condon ‘pissed’ on it or not hasn’t been brought up, although I’m sure something along those lines happened. The point being, before the FA period, negotiating can’t take place. When FA opened, the 2 sides were obviously miles apart. When Manning came onto the scene, and Condon was in the middle with both guys, it sure looked like Condon was suddenly Manning’s one and only client. he may have been stalling for Alex to get offers from other teams. Which sort of happened. Sea bailed before he could get there, and Miami talked to him for 5+ hours yesterday, and that’s been it. Tenn doesn’t appear interested.
    In other words, Smith’s leverage is pretty minimal at this point. What he does have going for him is the fact that he worked out well last year with the new coaching staff. All that being said, Smith’s demands should be more in line with what Flynn got in Seattle. maybe a little biit more. If they hold fast with 3/24, they come across as pricks in the whole thing.

  31. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Grump, I’m sure Alex understands what went on. There was talk of him coming back here and backing Manning up.
    Frankly, as has been said a lot, This is really the only place for him. I thought Seattle would try harder, but I’m sure Scotty had his druthers about bringing Smith up north. Anywhere else not called Miami would make him a backup, and Miami would be disastrous for Smith. No matter how much money they threw at him.

  32. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You kidding? This is football. Agents pull this shit all the time. The fact that Condon reps both guys leads me to think he held it back for his own gain.
    Be that is it may, Smith is apparently talking with Miami about a deal today.
    For what it’s worth, this has the makings of a disaster. Losing out on Manning AND losing Smith would not be a step forward for the organization. They obviously don’t think Cappy’s ready. And, Hasselhof? Really?
    This would hurt both Smith and the Niners badly.

  33. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe not the Niners as bad, but Smith would most likely be a disaster in Miami. That team has a ton of problems that Smith won’t be able to fix.

  34. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    It will speak volumes if Alex does not return and it will not be good for anybody. 9ers, GM will look like the fool Condon already does, Harbaugh will look like what Skeeb sees- a shit and to some large degree he will be right IF…but now Alex is holding the cards in a way. But this won’t be good for his career going to Miami my hope is right now there are discussions going on about his new 49er contract.

  35. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Matt Williamson, ESPN, on Twitter:!/WilliamsonNFL

    Said it before, I would rather have Kaepernick, M Wallace & Josh Johnson for #49ers than Alex Smith

    It is clear by off season moves that #49ers want to go deep-adding much verticality-that isn’t Smith…much more CK

  36. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    BTW Spitwad was given every opportunity here to join the group and participate when his welcome was burned out elsewhere. It’s not good the way he turned on Skeebs. And for what? Still this surely is not about anyone other than himself. I hope Alex doesn’t feel the way our blogmeister does!

  37. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Well, Manning can’t throw deep, either. Or maybe at all. Didn’t bother you much then, Grump.
    Colin Kaepernick, completed 3 of 5 passes for 35 yards as a rookie. He had a 23.9 rating in four preseason games, throwing five interceptions and no touchdowns.
    Sure. He’s ready to go. After all, he’s not Smith, who made us suffer through that agonizing 13-3 season.

  38. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, where did you see that Smith is talking w/ Miami today?

  39. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Peter King reported it, Barley.

  40. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Or rumored it, as they case may be.

  41. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I think Williamson’s take on it was you get the cheap JJ to hold the QB position for Kaepernick, then use the money saved to bring in Wallace.
    You’d be taking a big chance… you’d have a great team, EXCEPT for QB. Betting the farm on CK emerging, or your ability to land next year’s Manning. Who knows, if NO tanks, Brees could be available next year.

  42. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    What he said. Grump I disagree. I don;t think Johnson brings a hell of a lot more than Alex would. He’s either treading water or he’d be a worse option.
    Wallace ain’t coming. Not with the M&Ms already here.

  43. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If Smith gets a 3 year deal, then we’re at pretty much the same point anyway. 2 years in, we’ll see where we stand. If the Niners have a trophy in hand, then we cross that bridge when we get there. If not, well we’ll see. Either trade Cappy and reup Alex, or vice versa.

  44. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    The villain(s) in the piece is Condon for jerking Smith/Niners around to get Manning and himself a big pay day. Screw Manning and Condon. Don’t know how much to blame Baalks / Harbs but to lay on Alex is ridiculous. He’s a FA who took (another) slap from his team. What should he do if not look out for #1? Offer to caddy for Jimbo again?

  45. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear, your expertise regarding quarterbacks notwithstanding, the 49ers obviously arent ready to hand the reins to Cappy yet. They would be in better shape with Smith rather than JJ or Cappy, or Tolzein for that matter.
    They tried to get Manning. They didn’t. Their next best option is to re-sign Smith. It wasn’t 2 good passes. It was a season-long growth. 5 4th quarter comebacks. 2 last minutes drives in the NO game. To think JJ can come in and do better is fallacious at best. Hyperbole at worst. Who else is there?
    These are the facts. And did you catch Steve Young saying Smith is the guy to take the Niners to the Super Bowl?

  46. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Steve Young changed his mind about Alex? Has it been another day already? 😉

  47. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Just speculatin’ my friend. Obviously you’re no big fan of Alex looks like which is fine. I don’t blame Harbaalke but Alex might very well do so. I read on Maiocco Alex is tending to blame Baalks not Harbs FWIW. So I see the door left open by Alex to return for some more bucks. But you have to admit it would be hard for Alex to not react to the pursuit of His Majesty Manning II by our club. Especially given the history of Niners poor management of Alex since his rookie season. That’s not a buncha slaps? Ok.

  48. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Presumably Condon and His Lordship simply used the Niners and Smith and every other club to drive up the price for their original favored choice da Bronks. More money for the agent and his client, the High Priest. They had Elway groveling all over the place said Skeebs. And reaching for the Bronks wallet. Dunno anything about ‘hiding the offer to Smith’. Prolly told Alex “Don’t sign it yet, wait”.

    IF the Niners raise their offer to Alex for something more than Flynn got in Sea then the agent’s strategy will have ‘worked’. Bruised feelings aside.

  49. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle’s gambling Flynn will work out better which I doubt but we shall see. Surely the Niners value Alex more than they do Flynn so the market sez -pay him more.
    Well we don’t know what the negotiations involved moneywise or whatever but seems the agent and Lord Manning II had Elway squirming to extract every last pound of flesh outta the poor sucker (here phil whips out his hanky and teblows his runny nose in sympathy) /smirk/

  50. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Not only Seattle, NoFear: Miami has signed Garrard. Alex has one option left: the 49ers.

  51. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    He’ll sign but only if Harbaugh caddys for him alot

  52. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If you’ve been reading my blog (and I know you have, NoFear) you’d know that, but for a short moment, I’ve been not-too-thrilled with getting Manning here. Mainly for the injury factor. It didn’t come to pass. The best option now is getting Smith back. JJ ain’t the answer.
    Phil, Flynn should work out much better than TJ anyway. Sea needed to do something about their QB situation. It included Alex for a short time but they did what they did.
    Looks like Miami is going with Moore. Garrard is strictly a back up.

  53. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Alex got a fair offer in relationship to his successes last year.
    Alex performed because Harbaugh and Roman utitized his strengths and covered his weaknesses.
    I remain committed to the philosophy that you always look to improve at every position, including QB.
    Alex is slow to trust his reads and creates many of the sacks that he absorbs by holding the ball too long.
    Have to say, we’d probably be better to use this phase of discord to move on from Alex.

  54. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Alex benefits from Harbaugh more than Harbaugh from Alex.
    Comes down to scoring points.
    We’ve added Manningham and possibly see some contributions from Randy too.
    If Alex doesn’t return, someone else will have the reigns.
    It’s football. Make plays.

  55. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    JJ would be a regression. Smith, for all his warts, is about the only way to go at this point. If he can’t hit his newly acquired WRs, then we’ll go from there. Start working in Cappy.

  56. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Alex having another year with Roman would likely improve things Chuck.
    Still remains to be seen if he’s considered the long term solution or the short term bridge.
    I’d venture to say he’s holding a spot for Kaep at this point.
    If he’s feeling disrespected it’s time to move on.
    Josh has some value. He’s already played for Harbaugh. It’s about spending wisely and improving talent.
    Crabtree gonna bust tail in Camp?
    How about Moss?
    Tougher schedule, new faces, jilted Alex?

  57. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I too question the real story of the offer that was on the table.
    Who balked?
    Condon repping 2 clients to the same Team is ludicrous.
    Either way, it’s fun for the media and the fans but it’s still a business. Alex having another year to progress in the system is fine if he’s not gonna pout about the respect issue.
    It’s business.

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NYG lost CB Aaron Ross to JAX.

  59. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I do hope we get Alex re-signed. I am still an Alex fan. If we don’t get him signed, so what, move on.
    I can’t be worried if his feelings are hurt, his agent had a deal for him to sign before FA started and they decided to wait. Shit happens, this is a lot of money for most people. This is a business this time of the year. Move on.

  60. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Sounds like just about the right time for…TEBOW! That’s right kids, it’s Timmy Tebow time!

    Let me the first to just say, HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

  61. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Funny thing is, Condon represents Timmy Tebow as well . . .

  62. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Has anyone heard from Dennis since Manning declared for Denver?

  63. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Ted Ginn is reported to be visiting the Vikings. THe Vikes already have Percy Harvin so it is curious.
    OG Schwartz is secheduled to visit
    so they need to find Snyder’s replacement. I hope this isn’t hurting Kilgore’s feelings too much here.

  64. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Maiocco is reporting the Niners had mass auditions yesterday.
    Notable names were Brian Brohm QB who was drafted ahead of Matt Flynn by the Packers and Johnny Lee Higgins who used to return punts for the Raiduhs

  65. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Latest from Adam Schefter is, no 49er interest in Tebow. GB, Miami and Jax most likely destinations.

  66. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    That’s funny, Grump. I must have mentioned sex somewhere in that post. I get a lot of spam notifications, but if it’s an old post, I just ignore it, figuring who cares? Had no idea there were so many, though. Guess I better keep a better watch. Thanks for alerting me.

  67. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    No problem, Skeebs. I just thought it was odd, too, that they are glomming onto a few old threads. Sneaky bastards.

  68. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Those guys write like graduates of The FlyingV School of Dismembered English.

  69. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    The main campus is in Lagos, Nigeria. 😉

  70. SUPREME72No Gravatar says:

    hey what does my home state got to go with these!

  71. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Lagos? Wasn’t that the town in High Plains Drifter?

  72. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like JJ wants to visit the Niners . . .

  73. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ooops . . .

  74. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I just read where Manny Lawson
    is a FA looking for an offer.
    Seems like he signed a 1 year deal with the Bengals.

  75. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Peyton Manning to NFL Network: “…I very easily could have seen myself being a 49er. That’s why it was so hard.”

  76. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Manny was not a bad player, he just wasn’t worth a first round pick and the change we were dropping on him. Money aside, I’d rather have him than Haralson.

  77. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I heard a rumor that Manning shied away from SF because ‘Super Bowl or bust’ was “too much pressure”. If so, glad he didn’t sign with us. If you’re not playing to get a ring, and screw all lesser goals, I don’t want you here in San Francisco. Joe Montana never whined about how the goal of a Super Bowl every year was too much pressure. Apparently, Peyton does not have the stones for that legacy. I’m surprised and disappointed.

  78. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That’s odd. What’s the deal in Denver, then? Happy with a playoff appearance? Manning had the best chance of winning it all coming here. Certain;y not in Denver. Winning that division should be pretty easy if he survuves for 10 of their games. Frankly, I’m relieved. I don’t think he lasts a full season no matter where he goes.
    Manny Lawson. Another guy (see Dashon Goldson and Alex Smith) who overestimated his worth.

  79. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Would I rather have Manning? Yes. But that ain’t gonna happen. Looks like Alex is finalizing his deal with the 49ers as I write this, according to PFT. That is good news for me.

  80. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Lombardi says the deal is done.

  81. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    By the time you read this Smith prolly resigns here but it was good therapy. For me. (From unca chucks):
    Alex is making 10 times a month in interest than most of us live on in a year (conjecture). He doesn’t need the job or the money. He doesn’t “have to” come back to the San Francisco Forty Niners (fact). Longer this drags out with no commitment from the team- and there has been damn little when ya seen the NFL virgin Flynn signed for more (fact). Fact is he’s been the whipping boy of this organization for a very long time. Fact is he’s been dissed one more time by his employers. Fact is his ‘good buddy’ Harbaugh is looking more like Baalke 2, Nolan, Singletary = Mr. Hardass the Second, Third, Fourth. Fact. Carry yer own damn clubs asswipe (fact, lol). I agree with twin fan on this more and more the longer it drags out. And here I thought Twin was joking (fact…)

    Oddly I find myself agreeing more and more that Alex is / should be done here (twin). You talk about peeing in the pot? You talk about dissing the guy that led the Niners to 13-4 first time since the demi-god Young was here last century? Yes you are because these are facts.

    So here’s Phil’s conjectures: He’s done here, the Free Agent Smith. Highlight of his 49er Career was the last 5 minutes of the Saints spanking. Alex Smith has Nothing Left To Prove To This Team, it’s coach, the freakin GM OR TO HIMSELF and certainly nothing to prove to any fan. But for Harbaalke that is relatively unimportant because they value him differently- yer not going to get top dollar kid. FACT. “It wasn’t enough, try a little harder, take it or leave it”. FACT. Skeebs was upset about this shabby treatment and so is Twin. But nothing like Mr Smith’s upset (reasonable conjecture) who now is asking himself “When will it ever be enough?” (reasonable conjecture). “Never!” will be the obvious conclusion (pure conjecture). Followed by “I don’t need this” and “Time for a real nice vacation”. Buh bye SF.

    He’s done, it’s ovah. Harbaugh blew it with his #1 QB something Bill Walsh NEVER did. FACT. Way to go Harbs and way to go Baalke. Go find another pot to ‘pee’ in. There’s lots of QBS out there.

    Alex, take care of you my man. Your time will come.

  82. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Give me eight million, someone, so I can be pitied… :p

  83. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    No winners in this cat fight.

  84. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Gee, wasn’t Joe Montana so excited and helpfull when Walsh brought in Steve Young. NOT! Do you think Kilgore, Boone and Iupati are pouting up the fact we tried out a potential starting OG, Schwartz? This stuff happens all the time. Why is this time so different? We tried to get Manning, missed, and re-signed our current starter. Easy peezy!
    Who do we sign next?

  85. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Philly traded for Demeco Ryans
    and gave up a 4th rd pick and swapped draft positions in the 3rd round. Ryans was drafted the same year we took Willis and for awhile they were comparable.
    Eagles got a good deal and I have no idea what the Texans are doing
    since they lost Mario Williams too. We just might keep Larry Grant because Hawthorne, Lofton and Fletcher have yet to sign so there seems to be a slow market for LBs creating low ball offers and a glut.
    Also Manny Lawson is talking to the Packers now.

  86. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- IIRC, Ryans went the year before we drafted Willis and was the Def ROY.

  87. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, because Kilgore and Boone weren’t integral to engineering a 13-3 record.
    For good, bad, or indifferent, it’s different for QBs.
    Phil, as we all know, these 2 (Smith and the Niners) are inseparable. They will be together for eternity. To the abject delirium of some . . .

  88. robNo Gravatar says:

    happy to have manningham, i’ve always liked him ! now we have randy
    moss as our third WR !

    alex smith has to understand why we tried to sign a slam dunk first ballot hall of famer when we had the chance !

  89. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    You’re right, we picked V Davis and Lawson that year, Houston had a hell of a draft taking mario Williams, Ryans, Eric Winston and Owen Daniels. Now only Daniels is still with the Texans.

  90. robNo Gravatar says:

    up at 6:30 am just got back an hour ago ! i see smith signed a three year deal !

    gawd i’m really starting to like that kid !

  91. robNo Gravatar says:

    want to know which team i think is going to win the next superbowl?

    US !!!

  92. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs- Any word from Del Mar? Now that the Alex-hysteria has calmed down a smidge seems like a good time to ask….

  93. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think he’s feeling jilted Phil –
    Peyton left him at the Goal Line.

  94. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Dinner, Drinks, a Movie and didn’t get asked in.
    A peck on the cheek at the door.
    Funny thing is, Del is into horses.
    A Colt becoming a Bronco is almost a foregone conclusion? No?

  95. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Ferchrissakes, who feels so sorry for a guy making eight freaking million dollars a year to run the leagues near-worst offense?”

    He’s underpaid sez the market that is paying da virgin Flynn “more”.
    But Fear I agree, he should hoist the middle finger at fans, coaches and GMs and take that babe of a wife of his on a loooong vacation Away from here, his bosses, the grateful Fans and kick back with the baby boy and her on some sandy beach. Fer 5-6 months. Then when Plan C don’t work out so gud for his honorable ex-team or the other genius franchises- Cards, ‘Hawks, Fins, Bronks etc etc- THEN and only then when heads are gonna roll instruct his new agent to forward the many offers.
    You think when Cap is 4-5 Baalkball won’t be callin’ Smith with a respectful, decent offer? Or maybe they got some Plan D up their sleeves?
    Rally? Who might THAT be Fear? Just askin’….

  96. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I like yer thinkin’! Yeah that works gud….

  97. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17