Domino Cliff

The Tampa Bay Bucs are the early favorites for the 2012 Dream Team award, signing high profile FAs Carl Nicks, Vincent Jackson, and Eric Wright. As our astute readers know, this award is given in the offseason and reaped in the real season. Tampa finished last in 2011 and looks primed for a repeat in 2012.

But there will be more butts in those Floridian seats than last year and more positive traffic on the fan blogs. Each of these three players left winning, high profile organizations to join a loser. Happy fat wallets, fellas. And welcome to many years of obscure irrelevancy. You can now reserve January for those winter vacations your ex-teammates will not be able to have. You can watch them toil in the playoffs from your luxury suite in Aspen. Alone, forgotten, say didn’t you used to be ….

Meanwhile, the great QB mystery lingers on into the fourth day of the FA period, as the blognopolis grows increasingly restive. Neither Peyton Manning nor Alex Smith has yet to sign a contract, their destinies intertwined by curious fate. The suspense is palpable, more or less, with less having a commanding lead.

If Manning stiffs the Cardinals and the Seahawks, as he seems likely to do, and the Cardinals cut Kevin Kolb rather than pay him a $7 million roster bonus (due Monday), can it be that Smith would reluctantly turn his eyes toward these rival franchises? And they to him? And the division balance of power be altered in the process?

Manning looks poised to pull a Brett Farve to Minnesota reenactment, by signing up with the Colts long time rivals, the Titans. I suppose the temptation of wiping the floor with Andrew Luck for a couple of years is too much to resist.

The 49ers have yet to sign a FA WR, not counting Randy Moss, who was more of a FA Unemployed Old Guy. Most of the big name pass catchers have already found new homes, but there’s still a couple bargains left. If the team is going to sign one, it will have to be today or the weekend at the latest.

As noted above, the Cardinals have a $7 million decision to make today. Another year of Kolb or another year of John Skelton. If they keep Kolb, their fans will know they are out of the Manning Sweepstakes. Not a good ticket selling moment. If they dump him, their fans will know they were idiots for signing him in the first place. It’s a lose/lose day ahead for the Valley of the Sun Now Obscured by Smog.

This FA period doesn’t seem as exciting as last year’s model. The team had a lot of holes last year and we all had a lot of doubt about the team. There was a tense anticipation in the air. This year, there are hardly any holes to fill and we all have little doubts about the team. There’s a sense of ho-hum business as usual in the air. Even Rob has lost track of some OMGs and !!!!!s.

The NFL likes to dump unpleasant news off on the Friday sports beat, where it gets the least exposure as fans everywhere are thinking more about weekend plans or just getting blind drunk than filling their office hours with football trivia, and are too hungover or busy with said weekend plans to read newspapers on Saturday morning. So it is possible that today we will learn the fate of the various dead solid guilty as hell scoundrels involved in Bountygate. The league’s embarrassment is Gregg Williams torment is a 49er fan’s amusement.

TGIF, Outsiders!

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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Perhaps the solution to a RG replacing Snyder is already on the roster and I’m not talking about Kilgore. The forgotten man on the Oline is T Alex Boone. It has often been suggested that as Boone’s technique is refined he could eventually be a starting tackle and that either Staley or Anthony Davis would be moved to RG. This move would be out of the box thinking, involve a reshuffle of the Oline but worth considering. Perhaps they give Kilgore first shot at RG but if he struggles, this would be plan B.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    So you think Chuck and I are plotting your destruction?
    That theory doesn’t have any legs but you’re entitled to your paranoia.
    That intimidation gameplan you employ doesn’t seem to work here.
    Maybe stick to football facts, have some mutual respect and things might go a little smoother.

  3. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    NEWS FLASH >>>Niners have traded Crabtree to Pittsburg for Wallace….fills need for both teams…Crabs contract is workable for Steelers…Niners keep their 30th pick……then i woke up….damn…sorry guys

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Why are you in such a hurry?
    It’s another month before players and coaches are permitted to interact football. Other than peace of mind or in your case piece of mind there is no advantahe to signing A Smith today or on Apr 16. You also seem to think all negotiations are public, menaing if you don’t know about it, it must not be happening. With the exception of Moss, all the Niner signing have
    come out of the blue in staelth mode. Brooks, Rogers, Spilman,Cox and Cartwright were not discussed and bantered publicly. This is
    the M.O. of Baalke/Harbaugh.
    What’s goiung on with your golden boy Matt Flynn. He’s only visited the Seahags and they want to offer him a backup QB contract.
    Nothing else scheduled for him as the Cleveland interest has proven to be false and denied by the Browns. Accorsing to you half of the NFL was going to throw Big bucks his way and he’s be fighting off suitors.
    It’s still very early in the process and you need to relax.

  5. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers – I’d like to go on record as saying I take umbrage with this paragraph: “If Manning stiffs the Cardinals and the Seahawks, as he seems likely to do, and the Cardinals cut Kevin Kolb rather than pay him a $7 million roster bonus (due Monday), can it be that Smith would reluctantly turn his eyes toward these rival franchises? And they to him? And the division balance of power be altered in the process?”
    Are you saying that if Alex Smith went to either the Cardinals or the Seahawks that the clear front runner in the division would shift away from San Francisco? Is that what you’re saying?

  6. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Your umbrage is duly cataloged, Albert. When the best QB in a division switches teams, what else could possibly occur but a shift in the balance of power? One team is strengthened and the other is weakened.

  7. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    The 49ers are rumored to have 18 million left under the cap for 2012. All teams need to set aside 5 million for their incoming draft class. That leaves the 49ers with about 13 million left for 2012.
    The 49ers are solid on defense. The special teams look good with Rock Cartwright still not signed, but rumored to being a person of interest much like Bullit is with the Placerville FBI. The 49ers could also use another guard, but I believe DANIEL (not David like I’ve been calling him), but Daniel Kilgore could start tomorrow. Geoff Schwartz wouldn’t be a bad addition, but I think Leonard Davis would be a mistake. Fat, broke and old is no way to go through life.
    If the Niners sign Rock and Schwartz, maybe they have ten million left. If it were me, I’d sign Matt Flynn, or Peyton Manning. Then draft two receivers with the first and second round picks to go with Vernon, Moss and Crabtree, and we win the Super Bowl. There’s no doubt in my mind we’d win the Super Bowl, with Flynn or Peyton in 2012. But they don’t listen to me… It’s all feelings, warm fuzzies and hand shakes these days. There’s no killer instinct left. Nobody who will kick you in the nards (I just dropped nards on you guys), bloody your face and call you a pussy – making you a better man for the experience. Those days and those people are gone. In their stead, we get golf and awards ceremonies with Alex Smith while he’s quietly insulted with a low ball offer, all the while both sides spin. I miss the glory days of kick you in the groin, knock your teeth out and call you pussy, making you a better man for the experience. Wait, what the heck was I writing about? Oh well, you’re a pussy too for reading this much of this blather.

  8. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Wait, wait, wait… Skeebers? Did the Cardinals pickup Charlie Whitehurst?

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    When it comes to Alex Smith you throw his stats out the door because they don’t mean anything, unless of course when he’s doing poorly such as not converting 3rd downs. And of course against the Aints it wasn’t Smith’s actions that won the game, it was Greg Williams calling the wrong defense. According to some people
    stats don’t matter unless they favor his argument. Same person thinks 45 points should be rounded up to 50 because it sounds more embarassing to say you laid 50 pts on a team.
    That’s what you’re dealing with here. No true sense of reality.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Same song and dance every year from a football knowledge challenged poser named Spitoon.
    Nate Davis, Whitehurst, McNabb, Kolb and this year Flynn. All abject failures with Flynn yet to prove himself.
    This morning the word is that if Denver signs Manning than Tebow might be traded to Miami and Flynn might end up as a backup again with little interest.

  11. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear is right. Bullit is my stalker. I think Skeebers tried to cool you off yesterday, Bullit, to keep you from walking off the ledge or showing up on my doorstep with a 12 gauge. I, however, am not afraid of your insanity. I welcome it. In fact, I cherish the opportunity. Consider me your mad hatter, lacing the lines of your minds with Freddie Mercury. I had a special keyboard delivered to your squalor several years ago laced with mercury. It’s too late now. The effects have set in. There’s no turning back. You’re crazy, and I’ve successfully driven you to it. MMMMMWWWWAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAHHHHHAAAAA

  12. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve got a bottle of Jamisons for St Patricks Day. I wonder if I should drink it?

  13. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Does the sun rise in the east?

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Being called insane by a certified lunatic like yourself means I’m normal
    so thanks for the confirmation.
    Need proof? Your rant from last night should get you committed.
    “But I am. I am serious, and please, stop calling me Shirley. My name’s Albert. Nobody is interested in Shirley. It’s day three and not even the retarded kid around the corner who has dirt on his face 24/7, can’t lift his head and has he fly down half the time – not even that kid has come with wilted daisies to ask your bride of Frankenstein to the ball. Nobody wants to dance with Alex Smith, Shirley. Nobody wants to call her number, punch her card or see the tender vittles underneath her prom dress. There isn’t one team out there calling. NOT ONE. Smith is home right now crying – hoping the phone will ring. She’s dreaming of being courted by some handsome man. Smith sees Tom Brady and thinks of the glamour and the respect, the red carpets, hoping he’ll get to stand beside the homecoming king. But allas, Smith never got invited to the dance. I wonder why? Know why? ‘Cause he’s one ugly bitch, and there ain’t no pumpkin or glass slipper that’s going to turn his over throws and unnecessary sacks – no magic cure for his inaccuracies and his inability to improvise. Wait ’til next year has come and gone. Next year. Next year. But wait, no next year is one year closer to Kaep. Now next year means something because the beloved head coach has hand picked his own guy, and he’s almost ready. And I hate to be the guy who said I told ya so. Actually… who am I kidding? I’m exactly that guy. I’m beneath that guy. I mustard, I ketsup, I relish the opportunity. I TOLD YOU SO!!!!”

    Now comes the excuse you were smoking crack…

  15. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    That reminds me, Bullit/Unca. You lost a bet to me once, didn’t you? You had to send me a bottle of Jamesons. LOL. I remember that bet, too. I bet you the double whammy, Eagles win the division, 49ers don’t, and called ’em both correctly. You were drinkin’ the Singletary koolaid, like you do with anything 49ers because you can’t think for yourself. If it’s printed, you believe it.
    Skeebers just give me this one day to drive Unca/Bullit completely insane – push him off the ledge. I’m feelin’ it. No cencorship, one day, and I’ll rid this blog of the scourge that is the Unca/Bullit retard show.

  16. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks for republishing that, Bullit. It’s some of my better work, I think. Few typos, but on the whole, not too shabby.
    “But wait, ‘now’ next year ….”

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Bottom line is you have no answers. Spin and deflect when cornered. You can’t answer why all the QBs you’ve championed in the past Nate Davis,Whitehurst,
    McNabb and Kolb have been absolute busts. You can’t answer the question why nobody gives a flying leap about Matt Flynn.
    The answer is you’re a fanboy and
    jump on these flash in the pan types. It’s a dagger to your heart that Alex Smith is all world compared to your group of losers of which 2 are out of the NFL and the other 2 will be cut any day now.
    So keep avoiding the questions and the truth.

  18. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, I’m not going to debate with you. You’re an idiot. I’m going to drive you insane. Go take your meds or today is gonna get ugly. I just saw that Meryl Streep and Justin Beeber were teaming up to fight bullying. Maybe they have a hotline you can call because you’re about to get victimized….again.

  19. AlbertEinstinkleNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck – Streep and Beeber do have a bullying website you can look over so you know your rights today.

  20. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    No answers to any BS, so just keep dodging.
    You have ZERO CREDITBILITY which is the bottom line. It’s all just noise.

  21. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    This is getting real boring, guys. How about shit-canning it, so I don’t have to.

  22. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    For Manning it’s down to the Broncos and the Titans with
    Manning throwing today for the Bronco staff.
    Niners won’t be facing him twice a year and Cards are SOL.
    For what it’s worth Florio of PFT mentioned the Niners as being a suprise team here.

  23. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    Only thing worse than watching paint dry is listening to a perpetual pissing contest. So I don’t. Also I advise Berger to Yes, drink the Jamison or ship it over here. I have other advice: Baalke, sign Mr. Smith

  24. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m feeling peer pressure to drink this bottle tomorrow!

  25. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You’ll probably drink it tonight.

  26. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Per your 8:03, have at it, Skeebs.

  27. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not sure that TB finishes last again. Didn’t they go 10-6 in 2010 with a young team before flailing miserably in 2011? Why? Were they just lucky in 2010? Unlucky in 2011? They do have a young QB with an arm and quite possibly a head attached to his body.
    OK enough. That’s more than I usually write or think about anything relating to Florida (no offense, Rob).

    Looks like our biggest FA signings will be Brooks and Rogers. I’m ok with that. It would be nice to get someone with less mileage than Moss in the WR corps. Whomever we draft will be a rookie and therefore, by rules, unable to meaningfully contribute until year 2 or 3.
    This Baalke guy seems to have it going though. Maybe their strategy is to wait long enough in the negotiations with AS to get Smith to pay them to play. Shrewd, but I’m not sure how popular it will be in the locker room.

  28. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Miami is one dysfunctional team.
    They’ve decided they want Matt Flynn but at their price.

    Turns out they were never in the running for Manning as Peyton didn’t want to meet with their owner or GM

  29. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, haven’t you had enough? Spit’s end game here is to the biggest jerk around and to be an incessant pain until he gets banned. Do him the favor.
    Spit, Where’s Matt Flynn? Is the NFL world abuzz with his new locale? No. Connect the dots. Nothing happens with Flynn or Smith until Manning signs.

  30. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ahh, there you go, skippy. Miami low-balls Flynn. Be still my heart.

  31. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Smith’s bargaining position is hurt by the 5/60/30 offer for Manning.
    Still think it’s around 4/45/18.

  32. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Barley, Manningham is still on the table. As are a lont of lower tier guys like Royal. It’s hunker down and wait mode. There’s still a lot of time for free agents to sign deals.

  33. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Schefter reports that Niners are in the race for Manning. Harbaugh worked him out this week and he took a physical.

  34. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:


  35. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:


  36. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Did we sign Peyton Manning yet?

  37. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Schefter reports that Harbaugh and Co. flew to Durham, NC on Tuesday to watch Manning throw.

  38. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    This would be the second happiest day of my 49er life (81 NFC Championship) if we sign Peyton Manning.

  39. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Did the 49ers sign Peyton Manning yet?

  40. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Did Alex Smith sign with Seattle yet?

  41. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    If by the grace of God this comes to fruition, please remember who was the FIRST to float the Manning to SF idea.

  42. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Holy WOW…Payton to moss…holy wow

  43. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Just LMAO.
    Probably still 4-1 against, but this is becoming interesting.

  44. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Possible Manning as a Niner matchups next year: Manning vs Rodgers; Manning vs Brees; Manning vs Brady and when the Giants come the ‘Stick, Manning vs Manning. That would be the highest rated regular season game of all-time.

  45. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    To quote the late-great Mr. Scrooge, “I’m as giddy as a schoolboy.”

  46. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, P Manning has said on more than one occasion that he doesn’t want to go to the NFC for that very reason. And because one could knock the other out of the playoffs.
    A Manning ploy to get more $$$?
    Harbaugh would have to cede a lot of his offensive philosophy to Manning and change the entire system.

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I was against signing Manning without working him out. The fact that the Niners were the first team he actually threw for and took a physical for might be significant. Now the Niners are in a similar delicate spot as
    the Cards were. It is what it is and as they say it’s business.

  48. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Manning has maybe two, at a stretch three, years to win another Super Bowl.
    It ain’t going to happen in Tennessee. It ain’t going to happen in Denver.
    Biggest question in my mind is, did he throw well enough to convince Harbaugh to pull the trigger?

  49. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh is one cold blooded SOB steely eyed missile man: “Yeah you can carry my clubs, but I’ll still replace your ass if I get the chance.” I’m speechless with admiration.
    “Welcome to Ye Olde Club of Evil Bastards, Jimbo, pull up a chair, what are you drinking today?”

  50. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Jimbo has a lot of Big Al in him.

  51. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    In fact, I believe it was Tim Kawakami who made the observation that Harbaugh was more live Davis than he was Walsh.

  52. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Well…if the niners dont get Manning now…i think we see Kappy under center next year…hard to imagine Smith back after team going after Manning

  53. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Cardinals are keeping Kolb and giving him his $7 mil roster bonus.

  54. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I raise a glass to the departed Spitblood, cut down in his prime, just a few hours before he could unleash an “I-told-you-so” tornado of bullshit here. It would have been freaking epic. You dodged a bullet, Skeebs…

  55. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Hey guys …check out the web site…they added the niners to their arrows up/arrows down chart on teams chances for Manning…..Skeebs..the other day you mentioned how veterans who want a ring would once again consider the niners…rewind back a year or 2…whats the chances Manning even thinks about the 49ers?

  56. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    “3rd and goal from the Giants 5. Alex looks right, rolls right, and throws it out of bounds. Here comes Akers.”
    “3rd and goal from the Giants 5. Manning in the shotgun. He barks out the signals. Now he comes up to Goodwin and taps him on the backside, barks in his ear. Looks like he changing the play. Manning taps on his helmet twice. Sends Vernon in motion, he points to Crabtree in the slot. Here’s the snap, Manning looks left to Davis, pumps. Quick glance to Crabtree cutting over the middle. He fakes, rolls right and hits a WIDE open Randy Moss on the dig route at the goal line.

  57. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You guys probably should calm down a bit. It ain’t like we’ve signed him yet. We don’t want the Grief Counselors around the Bay Area to be overworked this weekend.

  58. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Like I said still 4-1 against, but it ain’t gonna stop me from drinking and partying while it lasts. Yee fracking haw!

  59. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Now even Matt Maiocco starts to climb off the Alex Smith Forever Bandwagon…

  60. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I wasn’t interested in Manning because he wasn’t working out for anybody coming off of neck surgery. Now that it has been revealed he worked out for us and took a physical, I’m all in!

  61. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    *IF* he is healthy, which is the point of the visit, he is still a guy who has to be in play in any conversation of the top ten QBs in the NFL since the merger. Not Saint Joe, but a hell of an upgrade over Alex. Only question is, will he take a somewhat smaller deal to have a real shot at a ring? If so, it could happen. If not, I don’t want him anyway.

  62. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What makes sense is that Alex had a deal on the table and did not sign right away. Suddenly a Manning deal looked possible. Sorry Alex, you should have signed this already. Now it is your turn to wait.

  63. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Alex has the same agent as Manning.
    Have to question what Condon is telling him.

  64. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- No backpeddling. I’m still an Alex fan, but this is Manning. If he doesn’t sign with us I hope we don’t lose Alex. If he does sign with us, good-bye Alex.

  65. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    “Have to question what Condon is telling him.”
    “It’s Peyton Manning, you’re Alex Smith. It’s goddamn Peyton Manning, you’re Alex Smith. It’s the 11th time Pro Bowler, Peyton Manning, you’re Alex Smith. It’s the 5-time All-Pro QB Peyton Manning, you’re Alex Smith. It’s the 6-time AFC player of the year,Peyton Manning, you’re Alex Smith. It’s the 4-tim NFL MVP, Peyton Manning. You’re Alex Smith. It’s the SB XLI MVP, Peyton Manning, you’re Alex Smith.
    For the love of Christ, it’s PEYTON MANNING!!!

  66. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In case you haven’t been keeping up (OMG Rob!) Royal signed with the Chargers last night and Chaz signed with the Jets. That leaves Manningham, Lloyd and Doucet as possible WRs.
    Pats are signing Amendola to an offer sheet but the Rams would be stupid not to match as he’s a RFA
    and also Bradford’s safety blanket. Maybe the Pats offer him $10 mil a year?

  67. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Since Condon IS agent to both guys, and Smith apparently knew about the Niners talking to Manning, this could very well be grandstanding on Concon’s part to jack up the price for Manning.
    First report out of Denver was 5/60 with 30 guaranteed. Now it’s 5/90 with 30 guaranteed.

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    What Matt Barrow’s just shared is huge in the scheme of things.
    He floated out the idea that Manning approached the 49ers on Monday. The article is very interesting and raises a lot good points including don’t be a dickweed and act like the Dolphins owner who flaunts his wealth.

  69. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I still think PM ends up in Denver.
    Shades of Kurt Warner. And yeah, I missed the Schillenz/Royal signings. Manningham would be cool.

  70. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The talking heads in the world are either misinformed (as most national guys are about the Niners) or they glom onto the latest big thing. Manning in this case. Until Manning actually visits here and talks to the powers that be, it’s all speculation.

  71. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    got to admit i was a bit surprised we didn’t at least give manning a look!
    as long as we have the best doctors loooking into it , and they give peyton the green light !

    omg imho he might have another 2 or three good years left in him !

  72. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Manning will not come to SF – unless its to sign. Harbaugh is a decisive guy. He either knows what the SF offer to Manning will be, or that there won’t be one, after working him out. He’ll either come to an agreement with Peyton, or not. I don’t see any chance PM pulls a Warner (“God told me to come here and frack with y’all before I go sign with the Cardinals”). Not his style.
    This won’t last too deep into next week IMHO. Either Manning flies to SF to sign, or Denver or Tennessee.

  73. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    omg ! we’re on peyton manning’s shortlist !

    WOW ! even if we don’t re-rign him , we keep our super bowl contender intact by re-signing smith !

    it’s a win- win imo !

    all i can say is …
    who has it better than us

  74. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    GRUMPY !
    the best part is that with harbaugh and baalke in place , and with jed taking charge … we seem to be back to where we’re at the top of the league in evaluating these things !

    manning knows it too i’m guessing !


  75. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Yep, it’s good to have non-idiots at the tiller in all things. Harbaugh knows quarterbacks. If he says Manning still has it, I’m all in.

  76. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Did Stinky get the boot?

  77. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    hmmm !

    ok , so if manning gets the ok from our docs …

    maybe we offer 3 years 45 mil ?

  78. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I asked Albert & Bullit to can the crap this morning (8:03am). Bullit complied. Albert went 2 year old brat by making a post he knew I would delete, and kept posting it for about ten more times. As often as I deleted it, he’d immediately repost it. Finally, I said screw it and canned him. He may as well have asked me straight out to ban him because that’s obviously what he was looking for. I got better things to do than babysit a two year old.

  79. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Yes I’m still here NoFear.

    Why shouldn’t I be?

  80. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    The price is $90 mil 5 years already. Go back and read some earlier posts from about 11:30am to catch up.

  81. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    There is a report from Sports Illustrated that Manning called the 49ers on Monday to ask if we were interested. Guess the answer was yes as Harbaugh and Romo were on a plane to see him workout on Tues.

  82. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Opps I said Romo when it should be Greg Roman

  83. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    90/5 is somewhat theoretical. The first three years are what matters. After that, Peyton will retire, most likely, or be released as Kaep or Tolzien or someone else will be ready to take the reins. So 35 to 45 in the first three with 45 to 55 in the last two is likely, with the last two entirely fictional.

  84. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Understand: if all PM wants is a payday, he’ll go to Denver or Tennessee. If getting another ring is his aim, he’ll come here. I like our chances, if we are really interested after the workout, but only time will tell.

  85. ROBNo Gravatar says:



    ” believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see ”

    or in other words
    would you give manning 5 years 90 mil ?

  86. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Per league sources, Manning has informed clubs he plans on making a final decision on his future on Monday or Tuesday.

  87. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Yep, I thought so. His mind is 90% made up right now, and he wants it done.
    I think our odds just went up, incrementally. Maybe 2 in 5 now. Very interesting.

  88. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Seriously, we’re all friends here: who gives us the best chance to win the SB next year? Alex Smith , or Peyton Manning at the helm? If you have to digest that question, you have more guts than I do. Speaking of which, mine are kicking my ass sideways. My Pancreas is calling. Muck him. I’m not answering the goddamn phone. I’m waiting for the Peyton Manning text: ” I want to play for the 49ers. I like Jimbo and their team. I can work with the 49ers…
    Hey, my bro, Eli! You and and G-Men are about to become the 49ers’ new bitch. I and the 49ers are going to kick the living shit out of you.
    Go Niners!

    Nigga please. Bring Peyton to SF. Thanks.

  89. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If Manning did indeed approach the Niners then our chances are at least 50/50. Why get the Niners involved and cooperate and keep it a secret for 3 more days?
    You have to admit, the Niners are pretty good in keeping things quiet. Last year it was thought the Niners were out in the 3 horse race that was Standord, the Dolphins and the Niners for Coach Harbaugh. You kinda get the same vibe here.

  90. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Also Manning gave the Niners the
    first workout, something he wasn’t willing to do for the Colts or any other team until today.

  91. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Peyton Manning?

  92. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, if by the grace of God. Manning dons the red and gold, you and I will have a discussion.
    Alex or Peyton?
    Your move, sir.
    I’m waiting for the counter. 😀

  93. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith or Peyton Manning? Frank, (my cat) just slashed me for asking that damn question.
    No more slashes,
    I hope this isn’t a repest.

  94. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    What a headline.
    Never saw this coming.
    If Peyton can play, it’s a no brainer.

  95. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Big if though.

  96. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’d say we become Super Bowl favorite with Manning.

  97. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No doubt Chuck.
    Does shed a little light on Alex’s situation though doesn’t it?

  98. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Time for bed. I need to be rested for tomorrow’s corned beef, cabbage, potatoes and Jamesons!

  99. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I also think our schedule favors Peyton and Moss.
    AFC East/NFC North?
    Peyton and Moss facing some of, if not all of, the top QBs in the game?
    Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Brees?
    Heck of a line up for Prime Time games huh?
    Not to mention Peyton getting a shot at Big Mouth Rex in NY.

  100. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    This is from another Niner blog
    but you’ll love the picture because it’s PM in Red & Gold

  101. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Let me repeat what I have said and maintained all along. I am a
    Niner Faithdul and have been one for almost 50 years. I am loyal to the team sometimes wavering but I have not ever turned my back on them or thrown them under the bus.
    If you believe in a coach you have to support his decisions
    especially a new coach like Harbaugh. Harbaugh decided that Alex Smith was the best fit last year. I supported that decision
    not because I have a crush on Alex Smith but more because I stood behind the coach’s decision.
    Naturally the anti Smith crowd started singling out the people who went along with Harbaugh as Alex Smith lovers and you know where that has lead.
    I also have always maintained that those same critics can’t name a suitable REALISTIC replacement for Smith.
    Perhaps we have one now in Peyton Manning. I think most of us who supported AS just want the Niners to win.
    Regardless how you feel about Alex Smith you have to give him props for his improvement last year and the 13-3 recotd.
    Naturally the Smith haters tore the season apart and just couldn’t enjoy the ride to the extreme they started rooting against the team.
    We can bitch about things uintil we’re blue in the face but the ultimate decisions lie with the coach and the FO.
    That’s it in a nutshell.

  102. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    It’s been so long since the Niners have been relevent. And these last few days have been pretty damn exciting. The team’s interest in Payton is way up the ‘wow’ meter. But the way the Balke/Harbaugh thing has worked. You just sense they aren’t EVER going to sit back be satisfied. Harbaugh’s said the team has to be better today than yesterday, and better tomorrow than today. When Smith didn’t sign before free agancy started, something was up. As much as the Niner’s may want Manning, ive got the feeling this has more to do with the Niners (Harbaugh/Baalke) not wanting Smith as their starting QB past this next season. I believe it’s all about improving every position, and QB is an obvious position that needs improvement. As much as i like Alex, and he improved this year, he’s never going to be Montana, or Young, or even Garcia…i’ve been thinking that Harbaugh wants to get Kappy or Tolzein in there…see what he has…Kappy was interviewed a few weeks back and sounded like he expected to challenge Smith as the starter this year…It’s all about being better tomorrow than they are today…Got to love it!

  103. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, I woke up with a pretty good hangover this morning. But seeing that picture of Peyton Manning in the red and gold made me feel a whole lot better. Think I’ll go make myself a drink.
    Did we sign Peyton Manning yet?

  104. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Almost forgot. Happy St. Patrick’s Day.
    My middle name is actually Patrick. So I always celebrate this holiday a little extra special. Like I need an excuse.

  105. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I’m watching The Stooges this morning on IFC. Shemp Howard was always underrated not only as a Stooge, but as a comedian in general. He really was a funny guy.
    Poor, Larry. He lost a shitload of money betting on the ponies. I feel your pain porcupine.

  106. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    What time should I start my corned beef? Preferably before my 12th screwdriver, I’d imagine.

  107. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I just put my corned beef in the crockpot with potatoes and onions. If you are using a crockpot, start it now. If you are cooking it on the stove you need less time.
    I wimped out on the coffee this morning. No Jamesons Irish coffee. I’ll crack that bottle around noon or soon after.

  108. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jim Harbaugh is the Niners secret weapon. He gets you on the field and plays catch with you and it’s over. Happened to Moss and maybe Manning. This according to Steve Young who’s seems to be pushing hard for this to happen.

    The Cowboys cut Kyle Kosier yseterday.
    He’s 33 now but might be a fit at RG.

  109. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Okay, Albert. I didn’t think it fair that you miss the party. You’re back online, but you’re on probation. One more idiot frenzy and the ban is permanent. It’s up to you.

  110. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers – Eat my dick.

  111. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    So long, Albert. Have fun selling cars in Eureka.

  112. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Joining in on the Manning whirlwind. I have been skeptical of Manning because of fear of him not being physically capable any longer. And then, all of a sudden, we’re actually interested and I can’t help but think, “It’s worth the risk! It’s worth the risk!” Obviously, we wouldn’t sign him without a thorough assessment of his condition and even passing that, there will be doubts of how he’ll hold up.
    But it’s worth the risk.

    I have said that Smith deserved to come back and be the starter for 2012. But he didn’t IMO deserve to be the “finisher” for 2012 unless he actually, you know, deserved to. He had to, or has to, make not just more strides in improvement, but make the final strides in improvement, or forget it — move on to CK, or someone else.
    I also have been both trusting AND worried when it comes to JH’s assessment of AS. So much public stroking seemed a bit weird, but clearly JH is a winner, and very competitive. Seeing as Grump says, the “steely eyed missile man” emerge seals the deal with what JH really thinks of AS after all. Not as highly as he was saying publicly.
    Trusting JH & TB’s judgment now makes it hard to see that AS has much possibility of being much more than we’ve seen. It REALLY makes me want to land PM now. And if not, and AS does come back, then it makes me want a good look at CK ASAP.

    I don’t see us signing him — I think he goes to Denver. But my predictions being wrong more often than right should give everyone hope.

  113. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I was getting hungry until I saw the Spitblood menu. Somehow, I lost my appetite. Time for some Jameson!

  114. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    It’s an appetite killer for sure. Especially for women.

  115. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Reno O’Berger is officially drinking!

  116. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- You’ve got to give Stinkblood credit for being inconsistently consistent!

  117. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, NoFear, he’s a real hero and a man of principle.

  118. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I guess Stinky’s New Year’s resolution of being nice to us was blown up by bullit. Looks like bullit won out in the end. I must admit I was very impressed by Stinky’s ability to keep his resolution this long.

  119. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear, as fun and exciting as running a blog may appear, it can be a major pain in the ass. QWhen you have guys like V and spitty bait endlessly the same BS over and over to the point of lunacy, what’s the recourse? Spitty’s claim to fame is being thrown off of blogs. He bragged that Baggardly banned him in 15 minutes. I tried repeatedly to get him to post within reason. I warned him online and off. He didn’t listen. He was banned. he pulled the same shit here. The guy is funny ans relevant part of the time. A lot even. The rest? Endless childish insults. AND he’s admitted on numerous occasions that he’s posting most of his schtick to piss people off.
    Try running your own blog before casting aspersions on how others run theirs. It ain’t easy. As spitblood proved. 40 odd threads with no comments.
    Ass kissing? Like what treating people with respect? Or at least decency? Whatever. Carry on, skippy. blame everything on everyone else.

  120. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, he had a lot of help keeping to that resolution, believe me.

  121. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    What everyone might have missed in your 11:59 post is you were referring to me I suppose.
    You think I’m fat and happy? I may be happy but fat? What’s your point except to get personal and take some more cheap shots.
    You are ever the drama queen in your embellishment of the facts.
    You are entitled to your myopic
    viewpoint. Yep the haters all have the same gameplan. Use Alex Smith as a wedge issue and blame him for everything wrong with the 49ers. Blame him even when the team has make giagantic strides
    by turning it around.
    I can discuss 49er football without talking about Alex Smith in every post. Can you?

  122. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullshit, NoFear. Keep floating those conspiracy theories. You don’t know to what extent I had to delete shit from Spit. You don’t know the personal attacks he made to others on my previous blog. The people he drove away, or the extent of the endless tireless shit he’d relentlessly post. in other words, you don’t know jack. Like I said, start a blog. Catch a dose of reality. You are like the parents that used to complain about the way I coached baseball. I coached T-ball and farm league as my son grew up, and I’d be as fair as possible in positioning the kids. Invariably, parents would hassle me about their kids not playing 1st base (or pitcher, or SS, etc) enough. I’d tell them that everyone gets a shot at every position. Most of the time, these parents would drop their kid off and split. I told them, it’s even across the board. As they kept badgering me, I’d say, “Look, you want the clipboard? You want to set up and run practices for 12 6-year old boys 2 times a week, plus games? Take the job. If you can do it better, then do it.” The more my kid got older, the worse it got.
    How about this, NoFear? Talk football instead of your narrow-minded views of the blogworld and the unfairness of it all?
    Speaking of posts, funny thing is, I see you siding with your arch-enemy Steve Young (spit!) when it comes to Peyton Manning. How droll. Wway to change stripes . . .

  123. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Spit wasn’t banned for his ad hominem attacks on other posters, though that’s his meat and potatoes, and something just about everybody in the blogosphere does to some extent or other, and you’re no exception NoFear, and neither am I. He was banned here, and elsewhere, for giving the middle finger to the sites that give him an opportunity to post. If a guy loves posting so much, then why does he always make sure, eventually, that he can’t post any more? He got exposed here, like he has everywhere else, and took the coward’s trail out of town. The M.O. of a bully.

  124. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- I like going after you at times to get some of the classic comebacks. It’s all good! Laughing is not over rated.

  125. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    I had a response but you aren’t worth it.
    Post a statement or opinion and prepare to defend it with facts. It’s that simple.

  126. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Good point, NoFear. I don’t know why I didn’t think to do it privately, either. That would have been the right move. Impulse post and poorly thought out.

  127. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers- Better it was public.

  128. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Eric Winston signed with the Cheifs. I’m glad it wasn’t the Rams.
    Reno O’Berger needs another shot of Jameson. Well, maybe need is the wrong word. Whatever!

  129. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    my new updated offseason !
    (best case scenario version)

    1st pick …

    trade up for floyd WR
    if we can’t trade up for floyd
    sanu WR with our 1st rd. pick !

    2nd pick …
    dontari poe NT !

    also a draft fav of mine sione pua (sp) is a free agent i hear !

  130. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    the big question …
    now that snyder left in FA what do we do ?

    i sure hope chilo is as good as i think he is !

  131. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    ROB- Alex plays RG.

  132. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Boone, that is!

  133. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    ROB- Reno O’Berger is insisting you have a beer and a shot! I’ll be calling to confirm.

  134. unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, NoFear, my point is don’t cite the talking heads when they finally come around to your point of view. You ridicule them ad nauseum, but now he’s right? Those in the national media are paid to have short attention spans. Tony Romo has been called the greatest Cowboy QB ever by the wonks at ESPN.

  135. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    ok , i got some updated draft info just so …

    1st rd.

    trade up for floyd WR

    or kendall wright sounds pretty good if we can’t bag floyd !

    2nd round
    dontari poe NT !

    if as expected , he’s not there …
    jerel worthy !

    ok , so will he be there when we pick in rd 2 ?

    awh crap !

  136. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    ROB- You used to be rob. What gives? Anyway, Poe at the end of the 2nd round? The only reason I’m not laughing is I haven’t seen him play. But if you read the experts picks, he is going top to middle of round 1. Jerel Worthy at the end of rd 2 is a possibility. He might be an end of round 3 guy though. I watched him play. He got by with brute strength and some ability in college. He was not dominant, but he was consistently good. I liked him, but he’ll need a year or two in the pros before he contributes, IMO. He needs much better technique.

  137. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    you know BERGER , you’re right dangit ! picking late in every round makes it sooo much harder on us !

    how the heck do you know what players to look at in any round when you’re not even sure who’s going to be there when you pick !

    i’ll therefore put it out there and say …

    round one

    justin blackmon

    round two

    michael brockers

    third round

    joe montana

    tenth round

    dwight clark !


    and that being said , good call on the alex boone thing !
    if he could be out OG … WOW !

  138. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Preliminary, but I’ll take a flyer on a three round mock.
    1. Stephen Hill, WR or Josh Robinson, CB
    2. Coby Fleener, TE or Billy Winn, DE
    3. Streeter, WR or Worthy, DL

  139. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It would not surprise me to see a RB at 2 or 3.

  140. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    HERE’S another take on things!

    back in the (recent) bad old days , we had a team that needed lots of help ! when that’s the case , you grab anybody and every body who can help you !

    the good news is that right about now , our team doesn’t need quite so many positions filled ! in fact imho it’s pretty much an easy call to pick our top needs !

    i’m rolling with WR and DL !

    imo , this makes it a whole new ballgame for us !

    how about instead of going BPA , we maybe trade up in any given round to go after the best WR and D lineman we can get in this draft !?

  141. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    How about we not.
    ROB, put a blade of grass in your vodka orange juice for St Patty’s day! Reno O’Berger is drinking Jameson.

  142. ROBNo Gravatar says:

    Berger Says:

    “How about we not”

    ok , so BERGER what you’re pretty much saying here is that there are either no WR’s and D-LINEMEN in this year’s draft worth trading uo for …

    or that our biggest needs aren’t WR and D-LINE ?

    or do we need a lot of spots filled ?

    i’m confused here !

  143. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    We don’t need to trade. Did you put a blade of grass, or a Bonsai needle, in your vodka and OJ?

  144. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Rob why would you Trade up?
    When dealing up you give up other picks.
    Now that Peyton is in the mix, WRs and OL would make alot of sense.
    We’re down a RG and we’ve exchanged Josh for Randy.
    Still need a couple of young WRs via the Draft.
    I’d hang onto our picks and look to capitalize on the BPA at the slots we’re afforded.
    We won’t sniff Poe at 30.
    Right now I’d hope for a stud WR to slide, maybe Kendall Wright or Stephen Hill?
    Otherwise, an OG could be there perhaps.
    Cordy Glenn maybe? Now there’s talk of DeCastro possibly slipping through too.
    Too many slots ahead of us to speculate so, we stack the Board and hope to see any of our options land on our slot.
    I’m always open for front 7 help too.
    Lot’s of options will be there at the tail end of Rd 1 as well, it won’t be Poe.
    I’d be happy to have jared Crick, Fletcher Cox or Devon Still to consider.

  145. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, too bad Albert has been tossed, I read on Maiocco’s site that Alex was offered 3/24.
    No mention of the guaranteed money but, my hunch was confirmed on the low side, 8M/yr.
    As Peyton turns, so does the knife in Alex’s back apparently.
    Now? Did Condon do him dirty to raise his commission expectations?
    Seems like a colassal Conflict of Interest situation to me.
    Same Agent working 2 clients to the same Team?
    Only in the NFL.

  146. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Smith is looking for a new agent . . . which doesn’t surprise me . . .

  147. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If Fleener’s there at 30, the Niners take him. Unlless Poe is there.

  148. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    3/24 is chickenfeed. A bit of an insult, but Stinkle was close there. He gets something right, and pisses away his one time to gloat.
    Haw haw.

  149. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Fleener is good by me too Chuck.
    How about this?
    Fleener is there.
    We get offered an extra pick from Indy so they can get in front of NYG to grab him for Luck.
    Would you do it?
    I’d strongly consider it.

  150. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If Poe is still hanging around.

  151. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    8M/yr is about what I thought he’d start at Chuck.
    Albert and I were going at it over the guaranteed portion.
    As it stands now, we may never know.

  152. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Eric Branch reporting we signed Manningham for 2yrs.

  153. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Didn’t Stinky say Alex would get offered 4 mil per year? I was saying 8-11 mil all along. If I was Alex I would probably fire Condon.

  154. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Just because other Teams, (NYJ) overpay for a QB doesn’t mean squat in negotiations unless there’s competition to sign someone.
    Jets were spreading out his years for Cap purposes.
    Sanchez still sux at any price but, Tannenbaum loves to string himself up by his own jock with guaranteed money deals.
    Alex has no serious suitors other than us.
    Looks like Condon is the snake here.
    More commission is a serious C of I.

  155. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    How can you say Alex has no serious suitors other than us. Are you familiar with his negotiations? Is this reporter innuendo? Do we know this for sure? Remember, last Thursday we were not in the PM hunt, now we know the reporters were clueless.

  156. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Depending on how this Alex drama swings, he may be done here.
    If Peyton lands in TN we could likely make a run at Hasselbeck to bridge us to Kaep/Tolzien too.
    Can’t see TN keeping him on the Roster if Peyton is acquired.

  157. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    How does Peyton contact us Berger?
    His Agent.
    Condon balks at the 9er offer to Alex?
    Injects Peyton into the converation and away we go.
    Alex is saying it will get done yet it stalls?
    Who controls that move when the offer is already on the table?
    Condon holds all the cards.
    He’s shopping his biggest fish first and attempting to set the Market in his favor.
    Smells like dead fish to me.

  158. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    You skated my question. I’m going to bed. Good night.

  159. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If the question was about serious suitors, then I don’t have an answer.
    Since I heard of no other teams interested in him perhaps?
    Condon controls that information.
    If he wanted to up the stakes for Alex he could easily float ‘interest from other teams’ via the media.
    This looks more like Condon trying to set the Market.
    Nothing moves at the QB position until the Big Fish is reeled in.
    Where’s Flynn’s deal?

  160. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, I’ve been saying all along nothng happens with asmith until Peyton signs. That was before the hullabaloo bout PM coming here. And it certainly paints a conflicted picture for Condon. Peyton’s his bog fish, but could he be stringing Peyton out a little bit to try and get more money/interest for Alex?
    It’s certainly possible. That being said, 3/24 is lowballing pretty hard. Granted, there’s been no interest in Smith as a FA, but SOME of that has to do with the fact that Condon, Smith, AND the 49ers front office all said the deal will get done.

  161. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I figured Alex would see an offer in the 8-10M/yr range Chuck.
    He played for 5 plus incentives last yr.
    3yrs in itself says he’s not being considered as the long term solution at this point.
    It would give him time to prove himself capable while giving the Team time to prepare a back up.
    I would be very surprised to see us get Peyton at this point too.
    What happens to Alex if Peyton goes elsewhere is where the drama lies.

  162. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    3/30 would have been in the range that Smith might have signed from the get-go, and would have been in the reasonable range. Now? I don’t know. They are playing a furked up game here. For all the animosity that Smith generates, I don’t think Henne would be a better option if the very real possibility comes to pass where Peyton goes to Tenn and Smith goes elsewhere.
    Well, whoever the QB is, we sure have a better stable of wideouts now than last year.

  163. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The big money question is, how did the 9ers get wind of Peytons’ interest?
    Did Condon suggest it and delay the Alex process?
    Condon should have some ‘splain’n to do on this.

  164. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, Smith is dumping Condon soon.
    I took a look at the Seattle Times ‘Hawks blog and they are around 50-50 to get Smith. They understand that TJ is not the answer. If the Niners end up with Henne (or even Kappy) it’ll be a regression for the team.

  165. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Peyton likely chooses TN just to keep Tebow and Alex from getting displaced perhaps?

  166. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If I’m looking for a ‘Bridge’ QB Chuck I’m going with Josh Johnson.
    He obviously has some Kaep-like qualities and knows the Harbaugh system already.
    Gotta admit, FA sure is fun huh?

  167. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Crazy. I didn’t think we’d be the big swinging dicks we appear to be.

    Yeah, I forgot about JJ. Gues we could trade Reggie Smith . . .

  168. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Think Reggie is a FA?
    Likely gonna go the Chilo route.
    Silent treatment.
    Have a nice career… elsewhere.

  169. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    BTW Chuck, Henne landed in JAX

  170. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    We signed Manningham. I like it. I now doubt we’ll use the #30 for a WR. Smith is dumping/getting dumped/taking a dump. This has been a crazy 36 hrs. I can’t remember anytime in the last XX years of 49erland with so much “I give a shit” drama. Good stuff.

  171. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    49ers free-agent QB Alex Smith is visiting today with the Miami Dolphins.

  172. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The curious thing is Manningham is only signed for 2 years and it came out of the blue. It was being reported last night that Manningham was at the Rams facility and they weren’t going to let him leave without a contract. Most of the WR FA contracts signed have lengths of 5 years.
    I just don’t why 2 years since 2014 is when they move into the Santa Clara Stadium and you want to make a big splash that year.
    Speculation on my part that Manningham placed a call to the other Manning to ask where his brother was going. After talking to Eli he called the Niners and said he’d be here for Peyton’s comeback.
    Making assumptions here but one can hope.

  173. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Isn’t 2014 when everybody wants to be a FA because that is when the new TV money kicks in? It could have something to do with the 2 year contract?
    It would surprise me very much if there is no interest in Alex Smith.

  174. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Before last season I read where Alex Smith’s family was totally against him coming back to the Niners because of how he was treated by the booing fans.
    So Jim Harbaugh did a remarkable job in getting him to give it another shot.
    I can imagine what his family is saying to Alex now. I do believe Alex realizes he’ll never have real job security here and might be better with a fresh start because his first 7 years here just won’t go away.
    If he does re-uo with the Niner he knows they settled on him and we’ll be back to the same scenario next year with Kaepernick
    definitely in the picture.
    Time to turn the page and go in another direction.

  175. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It is hard to know what goes on behind the scenes. It is possible Condon knows Alex can get more money elsewhere and has informed Alex of this before his call to the 49ers about Manning. But, if the report is true that Alex is contemplating firing his agent, then I doubt this is the case.

  176. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- I agree with your 6:54 post except for one thing, this is Peyton Manning we are courting. I don’t see any shame at some team wanting Peyton over Alex.

  177. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Besides, Alex did have a deal on the table to sign for a couple of days. It was a calculated risk to not sign it at that time.

  178. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Im thinking our QB in 2012 is Manning, Kappy or possibly Hasselback for 1 year

  179. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    The Houston Clonicle beat writer John McClain tweeted ” “Some of those who have pursued Manning the hardest believe he’s head to San Francisco. If so, congrats to the 49ers.”

  180. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    It just seems like there will be a QB that is sought after each year. If Brees is truly unhappy that Aints won’t pay him
    he might be available in 2013 as stranger things have happened.
    We were all thinking Manning would never be available. You just never know.
    Wouldn’t it be funny if suddenly the Colts seeing Manning reasonably healthy makes him an offer and coaxes him back?
    This circus needs to end by Manning making a decision so everyone can go ahead with plans.

  181. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith visiting Miami was observed by a Seattle Seahawk blogger who was on the plane and recognized Alex Smith. He even took a picture of Smith at the Miami airport.
    Alex just doesn’t get no respect.
    Manning gets picked up in the owner’s jet and Smith flies commercial hopefully at least in business class if not first class.
    Everyone has a camera in this world now and you just can’t hide anything anymore in the shrinking world.

  182. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Rob! Who do you like in Bristol today? I like JJ and the 48 Crew.
    Did we sign Peyton Manning yet?

  183. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Heres the article from Matt Barrows and the picture of Alex Smith

    The article mentions that Smith might be of interest to the Broncos now too.

  184. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Smartest guy in the bunch might be Flynn, who wants no part of the Denver circus.

  185. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Actually heres the Barrow’s article and picture

    Previous link was for Smith to Broncos article

  186. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Free agent guard Geoff Schwartz will work out for the Niners on Tuesday, according to his twitter.

  187. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Seahags are offering Flynn Tavaris Jackson money, $4 mil a year.
    Flynn is finding he’s not getting the Ryan Fitzpatrick offers he was expecting. When only 2 teams have a mild or lukewarm interest you can’t create the frenzy that get’s you the big multi year deal.
    It tells you something when Orton
    and Jason Campbell signed contracts to be backups. The QB market is dead except for the foolish Jets who inexplicably extended Sanchez.
    Even Shaun Hill went back to the Lions when the Rams wouldn’t give him the extra dollars he was looking for.
    Whitehurst was signed bu the Chargers who then let Billy Volek go. Volek is now 35 years old and the Don Strock of this generation.

  188. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Does anyone know who Matthew Mulligan is?
    According to the article below he’s got a visit scheduled with the Niners early this week.
    FYI he’s a Jets reserve TE. If they are lokking for another TE I’d bring in the Colt’s Jacob Tamme who’s a good receiver and excellent blocker.

  189. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Mulligan sounds like the guy I used to take with me when I used to golf.

  190. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Anybody ever see Shrek? There is a scene where the donkey is jumping up and down yelling “pick me”. That is kind of how I am feeling right now with Peyton Manning.

  191. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith to visit Seahawks after Dolphins.

  192. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    This suspense is killing me. We have to wait until tomorrow? We may not land Manning, and we may not re-sign AS. I am finding myself not worried about that. JH/TB know what they’re doing.
    Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.

  193. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Seahags just signed Flynn…. i think this qb thing for the Niners comes down to this…Harbaugh believes that if they dont get Manning…Kappy will play at least as well as Smith….

  194. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle thinks so much of Alex that they signed backup Flynn before he even showed up for his ‘visit’. Wow.

  195. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Tony — you may be right. I can’t see him playing as well in terms of only having 5 picks. But I can EASILY see him tossing more than 1 TD a game. Truth is none of us know what is inside JH’s head. He plays em close to the chest. Glad he’s our HC.

  196. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Grump — no doubt his confidence is now soaring…

  197. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    As of this moment Alex Smith is the clear favorite in the Dashon Goldson “I Can’t Believe I Didn’t Sign That” contest.

  198. Philippine FanNo Gravatar says:

    That moment was Brief:

    “The Denver Post says Smith will get that 8 million, in a multiyear deal with Miami”.

    “The Dolphins then turned to Smith, who will get a multiyear deal worth about $8 million a year.”

    “So it’s Manning or Hasselbeck for the Niners, if the report is true…”.
    ABOVE quotes from TF Chuck’s blag…

  199. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    Hey guys….check this out Alex Smith willing to be Niners’ backup plan to Peyton Manning

    Posted on March 18, 2012 by Grant Cohn

    It only took Alex Smith a few hours to get over his anger at the Niners for pursuing Peyton Manning, apparently.

    According to Jason Cole, Smith will not sign with the Dolphins unless the Niners sign Manning. Even if the Dolphins offer more than the Niners, Smith wants to be in California. In other words, he wants to swallow his pride and win.

    Now, Smith has to wait like the rest of us for Manning to make up his mind.

  200. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Having Smith as a backup would stifle Kaeoernick’s growth and just be a roadblock to his development as Manning’s successor if the Manning thing works out. Unless Alex is willing to take the veteran minimum, the Niners just can’t afford him.

  201. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The game has changed.
    Alex is no longer an option IMO.
    If Peyton is serious about a shot at the Ring, he plays in SF.
    TN is not as close as everyone seems to think they are.
    Peyton gets a shot at the AFC East this year if he plays for us, as does Moss.
    The drama couldn’t be scripted any better.
    Moss and Manningham, Vernon and Draft picks TBD, all line up for us to be the favorites in the West.

  202. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Carroll goes with Flynn. Big whoop.
    He could be another Eric Hipple,Scott Mitchell signing.
    What has Pete Carroll ever done with the QB position?
    Matt Leinert? Mark Sanchez? Charlie Whitehurst?
    Count me as… not impressed or concerned with Flynn.

  203. tonyNo Gravatar says:

    I feel if its not Manning…then we’re gonna have Kappy or Tolzien under center….and actually i think of the 2 Tolzein is more ‘ready’…

  204. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I thought Harbaugh might acutally help him succeed. Guess it’s not in the cards any longer by these developments.

  205. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
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1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
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