Colts 27, 49ers 7

The 49ers proved Sunday that last week’s debacle in Seattle was not a fluke. In fact, despite playing in their own friendly park, it’s possible the offense was even worse than it was in the hostile elements up north a week ago. All of a sudden, without any warning at all, the 49ers have regressed to 2007 and are channeling Jim Hostler.

The final score was 27-7, but that doesn’t do justice to the defense, which kept it a one score game for three and a half quarters until the offensive ineptitude finally caused an end game collapse of will and hope. The team is falling apart — precipitously. It’s not a stretch to envsion them being 2-6 at the BYE week break.

The only drive of the day, indeed of the past two games, occurred in the first quarter, when Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter trampled the Colts on an 80 yard drive. After that, the coaches went back to cramming the Colin Kaepernick era down our throats and ignored the run for the rest of the game. Until the final garbage time drive, Kaepernick had 86 yards passing for the entire game. Sheesh.

There will be no shortage of opinions this week about WHAT’S WRONG WITH THE NINERS? Is it the overrated QB? The coaches? The useless wide receivers? Jim Harbaugh locker room burn out? No offensive identity? Injuries? Bad karma? A pattern of shady ethical choices come home to roost? All of the above?

Take your pick. One thing’s clear, though. The 49ers’ offense really, really sucks. It’s going to be a long, painful year.

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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Gut check time for the Niners because their luck with injuries
    and off field incidents has run out. They have the depth to fight through this on the defensive side.
    On the offensive side they need to not give up on the running game.
    The pattern of giving up on the run was established last year with the losses to the Vikes and the Gnats.
    In similar fashion they stopped running the ball in the Seahag game and against the Colts.
    They were still in the game until they abandoned the run and then the implosion and the blowout ensued in the last 2 weeks.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Looking at the next game on Thurs, yesterday the Rams also abandoned the run rushing 12 times for 35 yards. The Rams decided to throw the ball 48 times and gained 240 yds. Bradford was sacked 6 times losing 43 yds,
    On the flipside the Cowgurls rushed for 193 yds with Demarco Murray ripping them for 175 yds
    Romo passed for 210 yds but had 3 TDs and no picks.
    That should tell you what to do against the Rams.
    Ball control by the offense can help a defense that is hurting
    and missing 3 starters in Willis, A Smith and Ian Williams.

  3. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- it wasn’t that they gave up on the run game, it is how they gave up on the run game. Most all of the plays that were successful either were designed to go outside or kicked outside. We started to try to shove the up the middle and when that didn’t work it was like we decided the run didn’t work anymore. It was never effectively stopped to the outside except when they ran that terribly designed read option play. The one good thing about the SCO formations was getting to the outside in the running game and they abandoned it.

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Rams had 18 yds of total offense in the first half yesterday. Bradford was sacked 5 times in that half.

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh and Roman are at a crossroads right now. They need to come to the conclusion that the offense they run has been adjusted to. It is now time for them to adjust to the adjustments. Who better to show it to than the Rams who gave the league the blueprint to the initial set of adjustments.

  6. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Actually, the original set of blueprints of how to stop the Harbaugh offense happened with the NY Giants in 1991. All Fisher did last year was use his defensive experience to dust off and dial up the old load the box and force the WCO to pass. It is why every WCO team now employs at least 3 WRs. Somebody tell Harbaugh.
     
    BTW, the old WCO is now the SCO. The WCO offense has evolved to use spread formations. I guarantee Walsh would have evolved. He was already using his Red Gun offense more and more. The Red Gun looked just like today’s spread offense.

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger
    You are absolutely correct.The runs bounced to the outside were very effective because the Colts packed the middle.
    Kap is at his best when he has a pass run option yet they don’t have him bootlegging or rolling out. The pocket is collapsing around him and he has the deer in the headlights look and on several occasions he looked very bad with his confusion.
    As I said previously he’s still learning and I hope he’s spending overtime studying film.

  8. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    On a few plays yesterday the Niners went empty backfield with 5 wide.

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I agree that the offense needs an infusion creativity and imagination.
    Been a long time since they’ve run a reverse and even longer
    running a halfback/wr option pass.
    Trickeration keeps defenses honest
    and something to think about.

  10. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    49ers are 1st team in NFL history to lose 2 Sept. games by 20+ pts coming off a Super Bowl appearance.

  11. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The 49ers do not run enough 3 to 5 wide formations in the basic game plan to be able to cohesively make those plays work in crunch time. Watching us go spread is like watching Woody Hayes or Bo Schembechler need to pass in the 4th quarter. It just doesn’t work because the players don’t have enough experience running it.

  12. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Epitomy of 49ers WR issues: Down 13-7, they go 5 wide with: Boldin, 2 backups TEs (Celek, McDonald), backup RB (Hunter), fullback (Miller).” – Inman
     
    Doesn’t say much for Patton, Williams, Moore – or the coaches are just nuts.

  13. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers- Just my opinion but I believe that Robaugh does that to keep the base defense in the game. I have never liked it. I think they are just out thinking themselves. When running 5 wide the WRs should be on the field, not the run package.

  14. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    We know that our WR corp is underwhelming (miss Crabtree big time). We also know that we have a more than capable OL. And talent at QB. And RB. And TE (though we missed Davis). So when I see a team playing like this, I cannot help but point fingers at the coaching. Barrows keeps talking about how Roman is sure to get a HC gig, but I have never been that impressed with the playcalling.
     
    Berger’s right, the rest of the NFL is not getting fooled. Hey Greg, please do NOT channel Simpleneuron. Try to FOOL someone!
     
    And can anyone remember the last time we ran a screen?

  15. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    “When running 5 wide the WRs should be on the field, not the run package.”
     
    You mean Miller lined up wide doesn’t strike fear in the hearts of the secondary?

  16. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I do not expect many adjustments by the 49ers offense this week vs the Rams since we play Thursday. I do expect adjustments to the offense following this week. If not, please fire the OC Greg Roman.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Barley

    They tried it yesterday but the Colts had it sniffed out and Kap ended up with nowhere to go.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The above comment was on running a screen

  19. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Glad we tried one. Hope we don’t have to wait 2 seasons until the next screen though.
     
    Kaep looks really tentative. The whole offense looks like they’ve bathed in the glory of their press clip greatness.
     
    Player’s confidence is now down, and it is up to the coaches to find a way to get that back. Not sure if it will happen in 4 days. I had us starting 1-3 and losing this game before we right the ship. We’ll see how we play with our backs to the wall.
     

  20. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I get the frustration and people wanting a change and somebody fired (I know it big time with Mack Brown at Texas).
    If anyone makes the suggestion of canning someone I would like to hear the alternative. What coaches can you get at mid season to replace whomever you want fired?

    I do believe that the unexpected success of the Niners has set a bar set too high that might disappoint some. I recall the naysayers putting out that the NFC
    West was the easiest of divisions to win and the 13-3 record was an outlier.
    To suggest that Harbaugh be fired
    now to be is proof bitching and moaning is essential to that person’s life.
    Just last month the whiners were
    complaining that Harbaugh only had two more years to go on his contract and needed an extension.
    Talk about the fickle fan.

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Barley

    I keep saying that Kap has the deer in the headlights look.
    He needs to take what the defense gives. In running the ball it seems he’s worried about getting hit. He used to run with wreckless abandon. I’d like to see him plow through a db because he’s bigger and faster.
    Playing not to get hit hurts this offense when his running threat
    was a huge component that defenses
    had to account for.

  22. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- Robaugh needs to adjust to what the league has already done to adjust to us. I did not call for Roman’s head for losing, but for if he can’t see a need to adjust. We’ll see if that happens. Can’t fire Harbaugh and I am not asking to, I am just asking for him to quit being obtuse and make some adjustments to the offensive philosophy. If Roman can’t adjust find somebody who can. That is a call the head coach has to make. If he can’t, he’ll be the next adjustment us fans call for.

  23. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Kap is also throwing fastballs on every throw. I feel this is because the receivers are not getting open and he thinks he needs to jam it in there. Getting some receivers open should cure this problem. I think it is the coaches who have the deer in the headlights look. I’ve been saying this since before Kap took over. It is just now that you others are starting to see it. Skeebers and bullit saw it and were labeled Smith lovers. I’m glad we have a new QB so others can finally see it too.

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The beauty of the Bill Walsh WCO was he always had an open guy as the safety valve by design that could get you 5 yards.
    Current Niner braintrust should review that aspect of the offense and implement it.

  25. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NFL.com actually put together a Kap lowlight reel from yesterdays game.
    Shows that the fastball doesn’t always work especially when you pop it off a rushing lineman’s helmet.
    Kap need to relax and stop pressing. He’s too uptight and playing like it. He still had time to hit Gore but he didn’t set his feet when he was doing his whirling dervish.
    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000248967/Week-3-Colin-Kaepernick-s-rough-moments

  26. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The WRs not named Boldin are flat terrible. The few plays they showed the DBs, the WRs run their routes then stop and look back at Kappy. There’s no reading of the DBs positioning to try and get open. It’s like they run to the DBs and stop. Like they are thinking, hey throw it to someone else. Teams are back to daring us to go deep. Kappy’s got that frightened look because his center is a revolving door, and the coaches aren’t helping him at all.
    .
    80% of the pass plays, Kappy has 2 seconds or less to release the ball. How we respond to this is to change nothing.
    .
    THIS is the problem. Stop the relentless pass rush by drawing up slants (hey we tried a couple and they worked), screens (???), and delayed draws. I think they did that once for a big gain. Something that isn’t predicated on 4+ seconds in the pocket, because Kappy rarely gets that luxury.

  27. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The outlet is blocking. This is the problem. wehen you can’t protect the pocket with that extra blocker, you have no outlet. hich is why Gore has been blocking an inordinate amount of time.

  28. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Sure, Kappy gets some of the blame. I’d give him 20% of it. But this smacks of Alex Smith getting no help from his coaches. These game plans suck the baloney pony.

  29. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Colin Kaepernick’s QB rating when targeting Anquan Boldin: 108.7. Rating when targeting other 49ers WRs: 19.5.” – Branch.

  30. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Watching the 49er presser, and Maiocco just made a good point: with Vernon out the Niners countered by activating Marecic but leaving Baldwin inactive. Marecic played 0 snaps on offense. Think we coulda used a little extra help with someone catching the ball?
     
    Talk about our coaches having mud on their face.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufupa4z4Ob0

  31. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners have scored (44) the fifth fewest pts. thru the first three weeks. AND, if the Raiders can manage to score 9 tonight vs The Mannings, we’ll get bumped down to 4th fewest ahead of only Pittsburgh, Tampa and Jacksonville. That’s downright sad and ugly.

  32. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    And Rob’s going to see the Niners play Tampa in December.
    First team to score 3 wins!

  33. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, that’s certainly part of the problem. These WRs never seem to be on the field. KW is fast, but no one else is. KW has a hard enough time getting open, but the rest aren’t going to scare anyone. They are back to playing against defenses that dare them to go deep. They can’t.
    .
    Still and all, they have to restore some kind of balance to their attack. Throw a screen pass for God’s sake. Do something to slow down the pass rushers. The delayed draw to Hunter worked great

  34. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Colin Kaepernick has a 6.6 QB rating while facing pressure.
     
    Kyle Williams, currently the No. 2 WR has 9 receptions on 18 targets. Kaepernick has a 24.3 QB rating when throwing his way.

  35. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Jon Baldwin will debut on Thursday.

  36. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Adam Schefter reports that Aldon Smith with miss a month, and possibly more. 30 days w/o a drink? I feel for ya, Aldon.

  37. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Both Jeff Saturday and Tim Hasselbeck just said on NFL Live that Alex Smith will end up having a better year than Kap.
     
    I have to go throw up now.

  38. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Alex Smith has better coaching than Kap, at least when it comes to the passing game and play calling.

  39. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Alex was asked the biggest difference from SF to KC. He said, and I paraphrase, he was always being held back here and in KC they told him to just play his game.

  40. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I have to admit, that’s one funny meme.
     
    The four NFC division winners (49ers, Packers, Falcons and Redskins) from last season are a collective 3-9. There’s parity, and then there’s just stinkin’ up the joint.

  41. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It’s like the 49ers are trying to repeat the fall of the Roman empire.

  42. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    FYI The Cards just put Dontay Moch on their active roster

  43. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    He must have got a new batch of PEDs!

  44. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    The 49ers are at a fork in the road right now. The direction they decide to go in the next few weeks may very well determine whether or not Harbaugh is a Super Bowl winner or fraud. Right now, Harbaugh can try to circle the wagons by doing what he knows best – run the football. But this would be a mistake. The other option is to use the season to develop a passing attack by weekly implemention of different passing plays and working each week with wide receivers to get them more involved. It’s harder to develop passing attack in season, but that’s what the 49ers should do if they truly want to be contenders again in the next three years.
    .
    This year is done. Next year, with the loss of Iupati and maybe Aldon, and Justin Smith probably heavily limited in a rotation, and Carlos probably gone – next year will be another transition period. Harbaugh might contend next year if Roman changes from run first to pass first, but I don’t know if they’re capable. If the 49ers want to be back in contention for Super Bowls in 2015, they need to start working on a pass first offense right now. If they circle the wagons and try to run their way out of this read option mess they’ve created from themselves, it’ll be tough to compete for Super Bowls by 2015. Again – Frank Gore is done, and it’s not because of his legs (even though I’m sneakily deceptive claiming so).

  45. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Who cares about the comparison between Kaep’s year and Alex Smith’s year? Alex Smith isn’t going anywhere in the playoffs. The Chiefs’ D is nothing compared to the 49er D of 2011. Alex had that D and he still only managed something like 86 yards passing to wide receivers against a terrible Giants’ D with a clean pocket in five quarters of football. Alex makes the playoffs, he’s one and done, two and done. We’ve seen it before. We know the drill.
    .
    The issue with Kaep is that Roman needs to create a passing attack around Kaep and the 49er coaching staff hasn’t worked hard enough to create one because they took their eye off the ball following the read option gimmick, but I’m encouraged by the news that Baldwin will suit-up on Thursday. This is movement in the right direction even if Baldwin’s hands are made from the same stone as Delanie Walker’s.
    .
    Don’t blame the offensive players. This isn’t a problem with the line, a problem with the wide receivers, or the qb. This is a problem with the offensive coaches and their scheme.

  46. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Spitty is a know nothing idiot troll plain and simple.

  47. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll believe it when I see it, that being Baldwin suiting up Thursday. And in my estimation, the biggest fault lies on the coaching. Spit is right in that clearly Roman has not advanced the passing game much at all. In fact, given that it was inevitable teams would make adjustments, it appears we have not anticipated well. Our offense looks very easy to stymie.

  48. barleyfreakNo Gravatar says:

    Not sure where I saw it, but someone commented that at the current trajectory, the signing of Kaepernick AND Aldon next year might not be so difficult.

  49. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    My friend from NY called and on NY talk radio they are saying the word around the league is the problem with the 49ers is the coaching.

  50. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I deleted your post Spit because you keep ruining them by talking about kicking and maiming dogs, which is pretty offensive to a lot of guys here.

  51. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Gruden just said it on the MNF broadcast. “In football, You run to win”.
    Yesterday the Niners were in the game until they abandoned the run. The game then slipped away.
    Kinda tough to switch to a pass first offense when 3 of your top 4 pass catchers are hurt.

  52. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers – You have a problem with your blog. Look at 4:52. Berger had to tell Chuck to leave RT alone. I don’t engage Bullit or Chuck, but Chuck continues to be offensive and ride my posts. You don’t want to check that, but you want to check a dog joke? That’s fine. I’ll again blog somewhere else, again. But just remember, I believe for you to make any money here, or be taken seriously as a host, you need to ban Bullit. He’s your real problem, but I don’t think you see it. Get rid of him, and his offensive and combative style, and make Chuck blog under one name, and you might have something here with your style of updating, monitoring and summarizing the day. But Bullit drives off the customers. I’m reminded of the scene in Tombstone where Kurt Russel tells Billy Bob Thorton to, “Jerk that smoke wagon…” But it’s your blog….

  53. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Denver is successfully running the ball out of spread formations.

  54. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I like blogging with bullit and unca. They go at it hard but they don’t threaten to hurt each other or their dogs. Hurting a dog is not taken as a joke around here.

  55. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Good for you, Berger. But if you ever want to make some money, or increase your actual users (not your posts) I suggest getting rid of Bullit. Bullit drives away people like RT, Spitblood and maybe even NoFear, although it’s curious as to why NoFear still blogs on Chuck’s sight, so maybe I’m wrong about NoFear, but either way, what Chuck does is he presents a case with his actual name, then employs Bullit to tear the opposition’s voice down. Instead of engaging in debate, like a blog is supposed to do, he engages in childish antics. And yeah, I stooped to that level, but only to press the issue. If you want the blog to be a success, and place to for back and forth, mature discussion, you dump Bullit. It’s not about what you like, Berger. It’s about what appeals to everyone unless this is just a hobby, then hobby on…

  56. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    This blog is rated at about 450,000. That is a very high rating for a small 49er talking post. To compare, unca is at 1,316,000. Just because many don’t post here, many do read. The person who drives people away is you when you threaten animals. Only psychopaths like stuff like that and they aren’t wanted around here in the first place. I would love to lose ratings when it is the psychos that leave.

  57. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Also, if you have noticed, there are no ads on this site. I would not have a problem if there were but I don’t think Skeebers is even trying to make any money here. He is just trying to have a place to talk 49ers.

  58. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If I ’employ’ Bullit so much then why doesn’t he post on my site? You think I’m him? Right. I’m not near as childish or vain as you. Why do you answer to RTF’s posts, BTW?
    .
    And this isn’t my (or your) blog. I’m not here to generate traffic, or whatever you think is going on here, or on my site. I’m here to talk football and the Niners.
    .
    Mighty white of you to comment how others run their shit when yours was an abject failure. Yeah, tell me what a pain in the ass it was.
    .
    Boo hoo. Couldn’t get a rise out of the SJ Merc crowd? They blew you off like yesterday’s lunch. Truth is, this is the only place that responds to your overblown bullshit. Party on, Wayne.

  59. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, I know firsthand why Skeebers started this blog. He contacted me to start it with him, I backed out, and I named this blog based on my love for the yearly book, NFL Outsiders. Skeebers wanted to make money in 2010. Maybe that’s changed now, I don’t know. The reality is that Bullit kills this blog, and I think Chuck does it intentionally. I think Chuck wants his own blog to be a success, and make money, but Chuck’s head’s is so twisted he can’t put it all together, but he sees Skeebers could so he kills it with Bullit on a daily basis. You dump Bullit, and it attracts rational debate and a lot more people. And yeah, kicking dogs drives people off, but again, I wrote that to force the issue. Dump Bullit, make him blog under Chuck, and this site could take off. Just my two cents.

  60. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Rule No. 1 guys –
    People are funny
    Rule No. 2 –
    I’m funny too.
     
    Learn to accept differences of opinion without getting personal.
    Being a 9er Fan on the wrong side of the map, I appreciate hearing the opinions of others, who hear all the 9er news daily, that isn’t afforded to me out here.
     
    Keep it focused on 9ers and football in general and, I think we all can find a way to get along.

  61. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    I agree, NJ. The personal attacks from Bullit have to stop. And allowing one person to create a second user profile just to attack others isn’t going to increase the blog’s popularity. In fact, that hurts the blog. It’s time for Skeebers to dump Bullit. Let Bullit take that act to his own blog…. and kill his own blog.

  62. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And, for the record Spit, I’ve had my issues in the past with Bullit but, as mature individuals usually do, we find a way to settle our differing opinions.
    Sports as a rule, invites debate and sparks rivalries.
    As a collection of 9er Fans, rivalries shouldn’t be a factor here.
    Liken it to jawing football at the Saloon over a few cold ones.
    We’re all going to have our views about what’s good, or bad, with the current state of our 9ers.
     
    I find you to be an astute individual with a warped sense of humor at times.
    I too can be considered warped by those that know me.
    It’s all good from where I view life.
    We can all agree to disagree at times.
    That’s life.

  63. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Soldier on for what you believe in.
    Not going to bother me any.
    Opinions are like a$$holes.
    We’ve all got one.

  64. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I have plenty of rivalries out here just by virtue of geography.
    NYG, NYJ, Philly Fans are an everyday occurence for me.
    Good Fans can represent for their respective Teams without insult or personal harm.
    Well, except for Philly Fans.
    They’re just rabid morons by and large.

  65. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit’s had issues with everyone, NJ. That’s the problem. That’s why this blog isn’t taking off. Bullit annoys NoFear, and he annoys me and drove off RT. Del had to tell Chuck to back off, or “Don’t… just don’t.” Skeebers should test my theory by banning Bullit for a few months during the regular season. What’s to lose? Bullit’s constant updates we all read at the source almost daily anyway?

  66. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And I work with one everyday.
    So, I get plenty of exposure.
    Funny thing is, he has Kaep as his Fantasy QB.
    So, he has found a way to offer an olive branch of sorts.

  67. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If Bullit wants to share a topic by way of a link to something he’s uncovered, so be it.
    No harm, no foul.
    I do feel that we all can get along.
    Just have to keep an open mind.
    I read everyone’s opinion here and elsewhere.
    Good therapy to share opinions.
    We learn from others if we allow ourselves to be openminded.
     
    My 2 cents worth.

  68. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No need for any of us to get personal, I’ll agree.
    That’s where the Blog Host/Moderator has the veto power to sensor and control the trolls.
    Perhaps a general mission statement can be adhered to among our rank and file.
     
    Keep it civil, stay on topic, be mindful of personal insults uopn others or, risk being removed.
     
    It’s a privilege to talk 9ers.
    Let’s all enjoy ourselves here.

  69. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – Skeebers is a smart guy. It’s my opinion that Skeebers sees that Bullit kills this blog on a daily basis but Skeebers is worried that banning Bullit would only increase Chuck’s insanity, AND potentially annoy his other patrons. But I think the only outcome would be a pissed off Chuck with more people joining in once Bullit’s bs was removed.

  70. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s a call for Skeebers Spit.
    For the most part, I accept that people are funny.
    My Rules for Life.

  71. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I find it better to have you, and others, share opinions here.
    All the banter about flogging others and having them removed just makes it counter-productive to a good place to jaw about the 9ers.
     
    Stay on topic, avoid being provoked by others and the garbage might stop.
    Takes each of us to avoid reacting to provocation, that makes this a better place to get together.

  72. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    For example, Del wants to punch people in the throat as a source for humor.
    Most everyone can accept that.
    Kicking a dog, as you’ve used for humor, has struck a nerve with some.
    Now that it’s been raised, Man up and, find another analogy.
    That would appease the masses and make life better here.

  73. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – I think you’ve missed the point. It wasn’t an analogy. And Bullit doesn’t make this a better place to blog. He makes others, less patient than you, leave for other venues. And because Bullit and Chuck are the same person, we could get Chuck’s opinion from one user profile without driving off other opinions. Wouldn’t you rather converse with a larger pool of mindless cretins?

  74. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spit I’m not sure who’s using dual identities, Skeebers has that authority to manage it.
    All I’m suggesting is, do what each of us can do to keep it civil.
     
    If you respond to the provocations by others, you become guilty by association.
    If each of us use good judgement, it fosters a more hospitable place to share.

  75. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve gotten away from places like SFGate, due to all the trolling that goes on.
    A smaller venue such as this is much preferred if the trolls aren’t infecting it.
     
    Good 9er debate is appreciated.
     
    Being ragged on by clowns that follow other Teams, ad nauseum, gets tedious.
     
    Cretins are good to an extent, so long as we share in the 9ers on respectable terms.

  76. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d rather have a venue of diehard 9ers cretins than one where half the cretins are clueless idiots looking for a laugh at our expense.
     
    Bragging rights belong to Seattle right now, as an example.
    Let them gloat.
     
    They deserve it, until we earn the right to shut them up.

  77. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – This isn’t an issue of authority. It’s a philosophical debate now between you and I. If, for instance, one user was using two different profiles to first state an opinion with one profile but then back the opinion up with a second profile and attack opposing voices, and everyone except the dim-witted knew about it and some chose not to play the game and blog else where, would you be open to the second profile being blocked for a desire to see more sincere and, as you put it “civil” debate and the chance for new blood being brought to the blog? You said it yourself that you’ve moved away from the Insider to get away from the trolls. Chuck’s not trolling, but he’s keeping Skeeber’s blog from growing and he’s doing it intentionally by attacking opposing voices. He’s been warned by Reno, and he’s pissed off a number of users who curiously don’t blog here anymore (RT and NoFear to name a few). I think you see what I’m saying. If you want “civil” as you put it, you dump Bullit, and I think everyone wants civil.

  78. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Posters did not leave here because of bullit. They left with their tails between their legs over the Alex Smith issue. When it was proven Alex could play at a high level they took their act elsewhere because they ran out of expertise to call us “Smith lovers” out. They just could not admit they were wrong. So good-bye it was. It’s too bad because they never had to leave, they only had to take some medicine they deserved. It was OK to lay it heavy and hard on Skeebs, bullit and me but the return volley was not OK. Such is life.

  79. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Another benefit of a smaller venue.
    We’ve shared music amongst the group.
    Had we not, your recommendation of Widespread Panic wouldn’t be on my playlist today.
    Most often, a smaller, more personal place such as this, doesn’t afford those benefits.

  80. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit and unca are not the same person. Not unless he is making money selling popcorn to Grumpy!

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spit, I respect your perspective.
    Be here because you enjoy those that make sense and act responsibly.
    I’m only suggesting that you ignore those that provoke you.
     
    I refer to those people in life as ‘button pushers’.
     
    They want to see where they can affect your threshold of tolerance.
    Let them push the buttons.
    Just disconnect it from your reaction threshold.
    When you don’t react, they might just stop pushing.

  82. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Were you rooting Rams or Cowboys?

  83. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We can only change things within our power to do so.
    Things I can’t control don’t concern me.
    Whole lot less stress and misery that way.

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I always root against our Division foes Berger.
    Even it means rooting for Dallas.

  85. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Did you hear on the radio what Don heard, that the word around the league is the 49ers troubles are because of the coaching? Are you two considered in the same radio market?

  86. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll be rooting for the Texans on Sunday too

  87. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Don is probably hearing WFAN in NY which I would receive as well.
    I’m not listening to Sports Radio much this time of year because I’m riding the bike during my commutes.
    I think we’d all question the Coaching at this point.
    It’s a hot topic, especially when a SB participant scores 10 points in 2 weeks.
    I’m concerned that Roman and Mangini are either over analyzing things or, they’re just to stubborn or ignorant to get creative.

  88. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    WFAN probably knows less about our Team than we do to be honest.
    We all look at this train wreck of an Offense and wonder where to point the finger.
    Logic would dictate that the OC gets the scorn when no points are being scored.
    There’s concerns with the OLine especially at Center for me.
    Good Teams find ways to correct deficencies.
    If they don’t, Coaches get fired.

  89. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Had a good laugh with one of NYJ buddies following the Mangini hiring.
    He warned me it might be a curse.
    I’m seriously having my concerns now.
    What exactly is Mangini doing for Roman and our Offense right now?
    Things that make you go, Hmmmmmm?

  90. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    But then again, everything that goes on with the NYJ is a curse.
    He can’t help but think that way.
    As he’s told me for years, the NYJ are on the 100 Year Plan.

  91. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Mangini was apparently brought aboard to help Roman adjust to Defensive scheming?
     
    So far the jury is still out, while the Defensive Schemes are having their way, at the expense of our OLine.

  92. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    My immediate reaction would be, to put more WRs in motion and, work on hot reads to slow down or break the pressure packages we’re experiencing.
     
    They are baffling Kaep at this point.
    Either Max Protect and take deep shots to loosen up the Box or, quick hit our way out of it.
     
    We’re not employing balance between Run and Pass at this point.
    That points squarely at the Playcaller.

  93. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Berger,
    There’s some merit to saying the blog lost it’s popularity or following to all the Alex Smith love, but I wouldn’t put Bullit in there as a Smith backer. Chuck rode the fence. You flip-flopped saying “Whatever Harbaugh wants,
    and Skeebers backed Smith to the end, and still does. But that’s behind the blog and 49er fans. I don’t think people resent this blog because of all the Smith love. Bullit’s arguments with Del and RT were post Smith trade, and Bullit’s still antagonizing people. You had to ask Bullit to email you just recently. That has nothing to do with the Smith love exodus. Right now, Bullit’s killin’ business. But if this is a hobby, hobby on…

  94. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We aren’t threatening anyone deep.
    If Boldin is getting doubled, someone else has to take advantage.
    Kaep is still raw, no doubt.
    He needs chemistry with someone else to develop.
    Be it Patton, VMc or Moore.
    Back shoulder throws against single coverage isn’t an easy thing to develop.
    Takes reps but, we’re not challenging anyone right now because the pressure packages are having success.

  95. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, I tried to patient with Alex myself.
    He’s still the same in KC as he was here.
    Not the kind of QB to take chances and hit tight windows.
    He is what he is, not the kind of QB Harbaugh or many of us wanted him to be.
     
    Right now Kaep is having the same type of growing pains.
    He’s thinking too much.
    The upside for Kaep is, he’s got the stronger more accurate arm.
    Kaep should start firing down the field more IMO.
    I trust his accuracy a whole lot more than I ever trusted Alex to do it.

  96. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Kaep can knock a tick of the back of a fly, he just has to develop more touch and find chemistry with someone in the WR Corps.

  97. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Perhaps Roman and Harbaugh are force feeding the passing game to find that chemistry but, we still have to be balanced and win games.

  98. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I would also suggest that people have left due to political views as well.
    We come here for football, Politics isn’t ever done with civility.
     
    Extremely devisive by nature.
     
    Again, if we keep it civilized and focused on 9ers and football, I think we might all just find a way to coexist here.

  99. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle has B2B Road games vs Houston and Indy startinf Sunday.
     
    Let’s hope they drop them both.
     
    They don’t get their BYE until Week 12.
    Our BYE is right in the middle at Week 9, following the London game.
     
    Let’s hope Seattle struggles on the road as they’ve been known to do.
    We see all the same opponents but might have the home field benefit with those common opponents.
    We get Houston at home for example.
     
    For now, we just have to get this Offense back on the rails and get some WINS.
    Otherwise our Season could be derailed by the BYE.

  100. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    First off, Bullit and Chuck are not the same person, not by a long shot.
     
    Second, I started this blog (and named it) because I like to write and I like the 49ers. I don’t do it to make money and never expected that to happen. If somebody dangled some serious green in my face, I’d be tempted to take it, but I’d say the chances of that are almost nil.
     
    Third, the blog’s “popularity” is about the same now as it’s always been. There might be less comments than before because Alex Smith isn’t around to rile everyone up. Everybody on the planet had an opinion about him. If the Harbaugh regime goes sour this year, you can bet opinions will flow once again through the valley of tears.

  101. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I have never understood the logic behind the theory that Chuck and I were the same person.
    If your are a regular reader of this blog you would know Chuck and I have had some monumental disagreements. Grumpy and Berger have labeled this “popcorn time”. He called me a dickless weenie after all.
    As I have seed numerous times I am a sponge for info on the Niners and try to share anything I come across that might interest
    others. I don’t understand the criticism. If you don’t like it just ignore the link I provide and move on.
    It’s that simple.

  102. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers is being modest. This site has more than doubled in popularity over the last two years. That is not measured by the amount of posts but by the number of people who actually click on to read the site, whether they post or not. IMO, bullit is one of the reasons why.

     
    BTW, over the last couple of years unca has gone from about 3 millionth to about 1.3 millionth. Not bad at all. In fact, pretty good. This site has gone from about 1.2 millionth to 450K. Outstanding when you consider he does not advertise or even try to draw any attention from the outside.

  103. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    On reddit a poster named demez
    made some comments on Kap and the coaching staff which I consider spot on and will repeat here.
    “Like I said Sunday, under Alex, Roman and Jim couldn’t be cute, they played a classic run first power WCO. Checking down, controlling the clock, keeping the defense fresh. Sure we weren’t putting up 300-400 yards in the air and it wasn’t pretty but it was effective.

    Maybe if Kap could check down at least 30% of the time, instead of his current 0% we’d have a chance. Kap needs to learn to rely less on his arm strength alone. Doesn’t always throw anticipation balls on routes, he waits until they are open and slings it in there at 100mph. College offense with a one receiver option, this team is destined for failure unless they abandon the cute shit and get back to what this team is built to play.

    Sure he has plenty of talent and potential but right now we’re avoiding the simple plays, we’re avoiding checking down to guys like Gore in the flats wide open for easy 6-7 yard gains. It’s nice to make the big plays downfield but when you’re averaging sub 50% accuracy and just not playing with confidence you need to build yourself back up. Boldin is not a #1 receiver, there’s only so long this coaching staff can lie to themselves about our passing game being a reliable source of scoring.

    How many more games can our defense stay on the field for over half the game? It’s exhausting, especially when you play with so few players. People hated Alex cause he was a game manager but that’s what Colin has to be under the current conditions. 6-7 yard gains to Gore, Hunter, easy toss ups to Davis to power through for the 1st downs. Keep defenses humble, force them to defend the entire field.”

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It took Cris Carter 5 years and a change of teams to emerge as a HOF wide receiver. In case you missed this Cris Carter has an amazing left hand and Adam Schefter is a geek.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsMgmYKSWYc

  105. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    There was a college a couple of years ago that was trying to teach their receivers to catch the with their hands instead of in their bodies. They brought out a jugs gun and had them catch tennis balls. Those have to be caught in the hands. It worked and the receivers did improve in their pass catching.

  106. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    That would be Texas but it was a tennis ball machine
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODw2TYsn0ak

  107. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- It wasn’t Texas but it was very similar to what UT is doing.

  108. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The guy on reddit is correct but it is more than that. IMO what has happened is the league is not fooled with our multiple formations anymore. The Sardine Can Offense by any formation is still the SCO. Load the box to stop it. Anytime you run a formation that allows the defense to load the box it is the SCO. What it does is allow the defense to dictate terms instead of the offense. Blocking assignments become more difficult and then instead of blaming the coaches the O-linemen get blamed. Our adjustments need to start with the coaching staff. They need to give the O-line better situations to succeed in. And they also need to design plays that get receivers open, including using better personnel packages, such as using WRs as WRs instead of fullbacks.

  109. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I did not say that last line very well. I should have said it like this: We need to use WRs as WRs instead of using FBs as WRs.

  110. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The line works either way.

  111. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It was ambiguous. It could have been taken as if we were using WRs as FBs. Which on rare occasions we have actually done.

  112. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Lions WR Nate Burleson broke his arm in a car accident last night when he tried to grab the pizza boxes that were sliding off his car seat.
     
    Looks like Nate is headed for the PUPeroni list.

  113. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Here is a quote from unca on his blog that would be funny if it weren’t true:
     
    Well, at this point they need to do something a little drastic. Like actually put WRs on the field. Not backup TEs and FBs. These 5 wide formations are great until you realize that they have V McDonald, Miller, Celek, and Dixon as the WRs in the 5 WR set. Gee, will they get open?
     
    They need Moore, Patton, Osgood, and Baldwin in their multi-WR sets. Why are they so scared to use their WRs?

  114. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The thing that demez said that is very true is Kap has to see an open receiver and then deliver the ball.
    I suppose the timing routes where
    the ball is thrown before the WR makes his break is not in the toolbox.
    The Raiduhs scored a TD on a halfback option pass last night.
    The plays work if you set it up properly.

  115. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Ram beat writer Jim Thomas wrote this about last week’s loss to Dallas
    “The soft coverage in the secondary isn’t anything different from a year ago. So I guess you can say the personnel isn’t playing the defense as good as it did last year. The safety play has been inconsistent. Finnegan, as we all know, has struggled. The linebackers have been slow to recognize and react to dumpoff or swing passes. The shoddy run defense really surprised me based on what we saw the first two weeks. The Rams were awful defending the stretch runs in Dallas, and time after time got beaten by cutback runs. As for the Rams’ running game, it would be nice to see the team get off to a lead in a game or at least not fall behind by 17 or 24 points so they can stick to the run.”

  116. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Rams have also tried to run 3 reverses using rookie 1st rounder Tavon Austin and it has netted a total of -1 yds

  117. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Kap has lost some of his patience and touch. The coaching has a lot to do with that. This coaching staff has caused him to regress. The coaching staff needs to step up and show they know what they are doing. I’m not very confident that will happen quickly.

  118. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The team needs to step up, too. I think they’re all thinking Kap will just do some miraculous things to bail them out, but it’s not happening.

  119. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Watching the WRs is nothing short of frustrating. Their routes seem to consist of finding the defender and running to him. Routes are NEVER broken off or adjusted by coverage scheme. There is usually no outlet because Gore is blocking. We are in max protect and can’t protect.
    .
    Again, and I hate repeating this, they need to design plays that get the ball out MUCH faster than they currently are. And they need to stick with running the ball. You don’t beat a sustained pass rush by using 1 WR and trying to block. You have to put 3-5 WRs in there to spread the field a little more than they are. You HAVE to throw deep once in a while. F*(&^, this is so reminiscent of the days when teams would crowd the box and dare us to throw long and we NEVER would. Put Boldin on the edge and throw a fade. If the defnses are cheating in, he’ll be one on one. he can win that battle more often than not.

  120. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Not much news on Manningham but I hope he has fully recovered and will able to contribute significantly when we play the Titans and give the offense a boost.
    Crabtree is running and high stepping through rope ladders so maybe we see him after the bye.
    Optimistically that gives him the final 7 games.

  121. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Crabtree’s absence proves how vital he was to this offense.
    He kept drives alive and moved the chains.
    If Crabtree proves that he is his old self he becomes a priority to sign simply because Baalke has failed to find anybody not named Boldin to replicate his production.

  122. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Not sure I’m buying that, Bullitt. Even with Crabs back, this offense still doesn’t have a deep threat. Granted, Crabs is better than anything on the team now, but I don’t see them keeping both next year. They both fill the same role. He’s signed through next season (though it’s voidable). If they can get Boldin to sign a one-year deal, they may go for it. But he’s coming off a 4 year deal and may was something along 3 years. He’s 33. Don’t know of he warrants a multi year deal.

  123. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Crabs is not a burner but at least he can separate on the intermediate routes. He’d be better paired with a true deep threat, but that is not going to happen this year.

  124. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers – Unca has admitted to being Bullit on this blog when conversing to Berger about how he was also DirtDiver over on the SF Insider. And about the name of this blog, you and I both know the truth. I suggested the name because A – it was a spin off of everyone wanting to be an “Insider,” Espn and the SF Chronicle, but also because I loved the book Football Prospectus which had just switched its name (around 2010) to Football Outsiders. Deny it all you want, but I’m reminded of a great scene in the movie True Romance, when Dennis Hoper asks Christopher Walken…. “Now you tell me, am I lying?”

  125. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    One thing is very obvious about the Rams after DMurray went through them in Dallas.
    Their Secondary can’t tackle.
     
    If I’m Roman, I’m looking for anything that can be completed at the LB level and taken into that Secondary.
    A game made for VMcD and Celek if Vernon can’t go.
    Kyle and QPat need to get on the radar in this game too.
    Rams have excellent cover CBs, we have to clear the middle.
     
    Better get the Run game going too.
    If StL can Tee off on the Pass, we’re looking at 1-3.
    They can get after the QB.

  126. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Our Dline should be able to apply pressure, even without Aldon.
    Bradford can be had.
    I’m looking for some fire from our guys in this one.
    Whitner isn’t the best in coverage but, he’s got that ability to set the tone and provide focus.
    Big test for us this week.

  127. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Spitty- I can assure you that unca never told me is bullit or dirt diver.

  128. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I read that Murray was getting outside on the Rams.

  129. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger DMurray was running over their Secondary.
    I never considered him to be a powerful runner either.
    I think the Rams Secondary was just that bad at bringing him down.

  130. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We have to get into a balanced attack in this game.
    Loosen the Box, slow the jail break.
     
    If we can get Kaep to settle down and see the field, we win.
     
    If he’s getting antsy and watching for pressure, which StL can bring, he’s gonna lose his composure and tank.

  131. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Was Murray going up the middle or off tackle. Big difference as we could not run up the middle on Indy but we were getting outside. I read he was gouging going wide.

  132. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    From what I saw, he was getting his yards inside.
    Either way, he made way more yards, because of missed tackles, than he deserved.

  133. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Fischer has a good DLine.
    Our OLine needs to show up and get something done.
    We’ve looked awful the past 2 weeks.

  134. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Berger – I can assure you I’d never really kick Chuck’s dog in the ribs. 😉

  135. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit the other thing your link indicates, a tall WR like Dez made Finnegan look stupid.
    Non call for pushing off not withstanding.
     
    Might be a good spot to see what Baldwin can do?
     
    I’d like to see VMcD and QPat get some exposure in this game too.
    Need RAC production.
    I fully expect Rams to focus on removing Boldin as Indy did.

  136. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We cannot afford to keep our banged up Defense on the field like we have the past 2 weeks.
    If Offense can’t sustain Drives and win TOP, we’re toast.

  137. winderNo Gravatar says:

    What a frustrating season it’s been so far. But a good butt kicking of the Rams would make it a lot better.

  138. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We’re out of sync Winder.
    Sure would be nice to see them get something going.
     
    Can’t get too excited, knowing that they took us to OT twice last year however.
     
    Our Staff had better have gotten this matchup figured out.

  139. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Per Maiooco, Niners will be wearing their home Red jersies
    tomorrow against the Rams.

  140. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Josh Freeman has been deposed as the starting QB of the Bucs replaced by rookie 3rd rd draft pick Mike Glennon.
    The reasoning per their locker room is a lack of dedication and commitment to the job an a diva attitude.
    Bucs spent big money on Goldson and Revis and now this happens.

  141. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Woke up this morning and I checked and I’m STILL NOT Chuck which the guy who is nucking futs keeps espousing but I could be…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxlf3ad9q5c

  142. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Spit, keep on lying. I never said anything like that, and no one here ever read that, so don’t stop believing your delusions.
    .
    As far as your beef with Skeebs goes, I don’t know, but it smacks of self-aggrandizement.

  143. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedule
09/12 - 10:00 AM @ DET
09/19 · 10:00 AM @ PHI
09/26 · 5:20 PM v GB
10/03 · 1:05 PM v SEA
10/10 · 1:25 PM @ AZ
10/17 BYE
10/24 · 5:20 PM v IND
10/31 · 10:00 AM @ CHI
11/07 · 1:25 PM v AZ
11/15 · 5:15 PM v LAR
11/21 · 10:00 AM @ JAX
11/28 · 1:25 PM v MIN
12/05 · 5:20 PM @ SEA
12/12 · 10:00 AM @ CIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
 
2020 Prognostications (Mulligan Version)
WINNERS:
Bullit: 6-10
NJ49er: 6-10

LOSERS:
Skeebers: 7-9
Winder: 4-12

ABSTAINERS:
Grumpy: DNP
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