Board Walk

Poking around the internet through the various mock drafts, it appears the consensus first round pick the 49ers are expected to make is FS Eric Reid. Or Alabama DT Jesse Williams. Or LSU SS Matt Elam, or S Jonathan Cyprien of Florida International, or TE Zach Ertz of Stanford, or TE Tyler Eifert from Notre Dame, or North Carolina DT Sylvester Williams, or SMU DE Margus Hunt, or UCLA DE Datone Jones.

How helpful. It appears the Mocksperts are aware that the 49ers have lost TE Delanie Walker, FS Dashon Goldson, and DTs Isaac Sopoaga and Ricky Jean-Francois. Knowing Trent Baalke like we do, however, it’s an even better bet you can cross all the above specimens off your list of guys we’ll draft at number one.

Picking next to last in the first round is probably as much about seeing who falls in your lap as it is about targeting a particular player. Baalke said last year he knew he would draft AJ Jenkins the night before the draft. He claimed to have written it down on a piece of paper. I don’t recall this paper ever being trotted forth in evidence, duly notarized, however. We can take him at his word. Or not.

Donte Whitner says the 49ers have the NFL’s best defense. This must be a quote from Whitner’s doctoral thesis in Jim Harbaugh’s School of Hyperbole. Still, this is not a good time to be telling 49er fans how good their team’s defense is and Whitner is the last guy on said defense that should be mouthing off about its excellence.

It’s widely assumed the 49ers will draft a Free Safety to eventually replace the departed Goldson, but the team already has a young guy who can move to FS. Harbaugh has said there are no plans at present to move Chris Culliver to this spot, but three factors mitigate this sentiment. One, Harbaugh is a known dissembler. Two, “at present” was during the offseason, not Training Camp. And three, Craig Dahl’s a mentor, not a solution. If we wanted a FS who could actually play, we’d have signed Charles Woodson. You could throw in four, the signing of CB Nnamdi Asomugha, who would bump Culliver down the DB chart if he makes the team and why would we want to stall a young guy’s career in favor of an old guy filling in for a year or two?

Of course, Trent Baalke has no qualms about other teams thinking he’ll be drafting a FS. Cultivating wrong information in opponent draft rooms is a GM’s bread and butter.

At any rate, I’ve convinced myself of this theory, if not any of you. No FS on our draft board. Unless you’re Eric Berry or Earl Thomas, free safeties spend their rookie year getting burnt. The 49ers don’t have time for that crap. We already got enough toast in the secondary — are you getting my drift Whitner? As a matter of fact, I’m putting Strong Safety on our draft board. You’re on the clock, Donte.

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  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    About a week and a half to go. I’m expecting some trades to impact our first couple of rounds.

  2. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’m wondering if the Niners would consider trading Rogers and a pick to Miami for their spot at 12.

  3. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Guaranteeing them Brenda Vaccaro.

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Right now it’s all about hype and what you believe.
    I myself get caught up in the hype machine and am guilty of being a victim.
    I do realize film study that we all don’t have access to is a good measure of a player’s abilities.
    Watching highlights shows us player’s best plays. I want to see them at their worst and how they react.
    That’s why it’s hard to doubt the judgement of a good front office who sees it all.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    On the topic of hype here’s a list
    from a talking head from NFL Network on the most overrated players in this draft.
    4 of the 5 have been discussed as possible Niner choices.

  6. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And now for something completely differnent . . .

  7. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And since you are so uninformed, Berger, Les Claypool, bassist extraordinnaire, is the founder of Primus.

  8. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Front offices are as stupid as people, Bullit. The Niners front office from 1999 to 3 years ago was an absolute disaster. Harbaugh made them sudden;y look like geniuses.

  9. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hype is for the unwashed masses, Bulliltt. That infects front offices as well as draftniks. Guys like Taylor Mays are the product of hype. Manti Te’o could very well be the same guy.
    But you get guys like Aldon Smith who zoom undetected up someone’s board as an absolute steal.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The present core team started getting built in 2005 with only 2008 being a disaster in the draft.
    Harbaugh was in a position to add the missing pieces made the team a playoff and Super Bowl contender.

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Keeping the key pieces together the Niners have started contract negotiations 2 years in advance of Iupati’s contract expiration

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    As for Taylor Mays he was a bust at Safety but maybe the Niners gave up on him too soon.
    Mays was 6″3″ 230 lbs who ran 4.4.
    I would have looked at converting him to a OLB adding 10 more lbs because the knock was he was too stiff and mechanical.
    What we don’t know was what was happening behind the scenes and in the locker room.

  13. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So were Nolan and Singletary, Nullitt. The same was true in 2007 and 2010. The team was poised at both points of those seasons to break out and do well. What happened?
    Continually failing in the regular season garners you a lot of high picks, Bullitt. Even as late as 2010, the Niners front office was seen as a mess of bad communications, too many people with their hands in the pie, and no direct lines of authority. They’ve had the pieces for a while now, but the TEAM was still a mess without Harbaugh.
    The point being, if the Niners had hired someone else instead of Harbaugh, and they didn’t do as well, what then?

  14. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    We don’t need to know behind the scenes, Bullitt. Mays has been relegated to backup/ST status. He was a huge liability in coverage, and has never cracked the starting lineup. OLB? Sure. That might work in fantasy football leagues, but not here in reality.
    Mays was big and fast, but was not good in coverage and had lousy footwork. Like many USC players, he’s the benefactor of a system that benefitted him greatly. This was known before the draft and it came to pass.

  15. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    If Mays can play OLB at 240 he would need to do it somewhere else. Probably in a 4-3. Our OLBs need to be quite a big bigger to set the edge in the 3-4 and avoid getting swallowed up in the run game. Aldon is listed at 258.

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Ok maybe Mays at ILB because Willis and Bowman are both around 240.
    If he has football skills and you spent the high draft choice on him you try to make the most of it before giving him away.
    What I was talking about behind the scenes was attitude and willingness to listen to coaches.
    Since they gave up on mays, he was not open to doing what was best for the team and they shopped him immediately.
    It is not fantasy football to convert players with skills to different positions.
    Two current examples are Bruce Miller and Demarcus Dobbs on changing positions.

  17. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- I am guilty as charged. I am definitely uninformed about Primus.

  18. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Just becasue they are the same size it don’t mean they are the same ability. Mays’d be buried on the depth chart, Bullitt. Better a 7th round pick than a 3rd string ILB who doesn’t see the field.
    2 guys made position switches? Impressive. That doesn’t change the fact that Mays still sucks as a football player. Moving him around won’t change that. Maybe the Bengals should try him at QB.

  19. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Damn it
    Two explosions at the finish line of the Boston Marathon.
    Many people injured.
    Sad day.

  20. robNo Gravatar says:

    IMHO brooks goes overboard when he includes lotulolei in his list ! i can only hope he’s wrong about cyprien too !

  21. robNo Gravatar says:

    dammm the bastards who bombed the boston marathon !

  22. robNo Gravatar says:

    ” Poking around the internet through the various mock drafts, it appears the consensus first round pick the 49ers are expected to make is FS Eric Reid. Or Alabama DT Jesse Williams. Or LSU SS Matt Elam, or S Jonathan Cyprien of Florida International, or TE Zach Ertz of Stanford, or TE Tyler Eifert from Notre Dame, or North Carolina DT Sylvester Williams, or SMU DE Margus Hunt, or UCLA DE Datone Jones.”

    i’m sayin hankins , elam and cyprien ! i’ve also been looking at williams for even longer !

    if my track record means anything , i guess the mock drafts must all be way off !

  23. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As for the ‘Overrated’ article, Bucky Brooks is severely ‘overrated’.
    He is basically clueless.
    A Draft isn’t a one guy fits all pageant.
    Geno Smith is all the rage because the QB Class is putrid.
    The Draft is about finding guys that fit a specific Team need.
    If your Jerry Jones or the latter Day Dan Snyder, you grab the guys that Kiper et al say are the sure fire studs, only to find out down the road that many of them don’t fit your scheme.
    This is why you stockpile Picks.
    Too often, College Stars can’t adapt to the speed and power of the Pro game.

  24. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The Rookie Cap now protects against colossal disasters financially.
    It doesn’t protect against wasting a Pick however.
    I laugh at many of the Mock-spurts who profess to know what any given Team is in need of.
    Pretty easy to identify a need.
    A whole lot harder to find fits among all the applicants who never played a snap of Pro Level Football.
    It’s about heart, dedication to succeed and maturity.
    Too many guys bomb the test when the $$$ clouds their vision.
    Scouting is the answer IMO.
    Doing your homework on the person before getting enamored with the College athletic abilities.

  25. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Back to the topic of competent front offices the Niner front office stocked the team with 70% of the current roster before Harbaugh came aboard.
    IMHO there is no way you characterize the Niner front office as a disaster before Harbaugh. They laid the foundation
    for the Super Bowl team of last year.
    An extreme example of incompetency are the Raiduhs who have retained exactly only one #1 draft pick McFadden from the last 10 years and less than 10 of their draft picks. They are perpetually picking in first ten of the draft and have nothing to show for it.

  26. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Most, if not all of the Raiders troubles can be attributed to Al Davis who continually played the ‘bombs away’ style he was successful with in the ’70s Bullit.
    His agenda was always about Offense and deep shots down the field.
    Never changed with the game and certainly never grasped the Cap concept or Roster mgt.
    As you suggest, the FO is where Teams are cultivated.
    Without proper Scouting or Mgt, there’s little or no room for advancement, let alone success.
    Al fit in with my earlier opinion about buying into College talent that doesn’t automatically translate into the Pro game.
    Blame Scouting, or lack thereof.

  27. robNo Gravatar says:

    i have to agree with BULLIT on the niners front office debate ! scott m. did a pretty good job for us ! he helped build a 10-6 team in seattle and did pretty much the same thing here ! the biggest problem up to 2010 wasn’t the roster ! the big drag on this team over those years was head coach mike nolan !

  28. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    No. McCloughan had a good draft in 2007, that’s all. Yeah he got Gore in 2005 but he reached and overdrafted Alex, Baas and Snyder. His late picks amounted to very little. In 2006 he got VD but that (or any TE) was a questionable pick at 6 overall. Manny Lawson was a good player but did not fit our needs and was not worth 22. Brandon Williams was a whiff. And 2008 was a year of outright horror.
    Frankly, since Walsh, we’ve had the occasional gem, but a lot of duds. Going back to Seifert and Clark, we’ve had too many Dana Halls and Jim Druckenmillers, and not enough Bryant Youngs. That is why we became irrelevant for most of a decade and are only now becoming a force in the league again. Harbaugh’s on the sideline antics may be an irritant, but you cannot say enough about the drafting he and Baalke have done, and the way they have turned this team around.
    Nolan’s problem was his personal lack of offensive expertise or experience in developing QBs, and his inability to keep someone like that on his staff. Alex was likely going to be a slow learner in any event – Urban called it – but the revolving door at OC ensured that slow would become glacial. Nolan was only going to be successful if he found a Tom Moore type to take care of building some offensive competence. He did not find that guy, and it brought the regime down.

  29. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Looking at the 2005 draft of the first 10 players picked only 6 are currently in the NFL. Of those 6 the Niners had 2 of them on their roster last year.
    And Ronnie Brown and Cedric Benson are among those 6 and might be out of the NFL this year.
    2005 was a very weak draft.
    Most drafts even in hindsight you can identify a clear #1 pick.
    This one would be Aaron Rodgers
    but that would have considered a huge reach as 23 teams passed on him.
    The other guys that had decent careers are Demarcus Ware, Derrick Johnson, Jamaal Brown, Roddy White,Heath Miller, Shawn Merriman and Carlos Rogers.
    Hard to pick out one because none of their college crednetials screamed top pick.
    It could’ve been worse. If Matt Leinart had declared for the draft the Niners most certainly would’ve selected him and we know how that would’ve turned out.

  30. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Full NFL schedule is out Thursday night.

  31. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    One game we know for sure now is we’re playing the Jags Sunday, October 27, 2013 in London and most likely our bye would be the Sunday after.
    Niners should get 6 prime time national games this year.

  32. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Just like Petey, Chip slinks away to NFL riches while his school takes a hit. The usual will be Chip denying any knowledge which is the usual lame excuse.

  33. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    When the Niners drafted Vernon Davis at 6 it was not that big of a reach. I look at the players they could have drafted and you can make a case for Ngata who was taken at 12 but that would mean you’d be without your primary weapon for the seasons where the Niner receivers were subpar.
    VD is now recognized as one of the best blocking TEs in the league.
    Would rather have the years with
    VD and Sopa than Ngata and Billy Bajema.

  34. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Nate Montana is coming to the Niner Pro day tomorrow.
    Being a Niner would be the worst thing for the young man. He has more Jennifer in him than Joe and he has too much to live up to in this org coming from West Virginia Wesleyan.
    Perhaps Baalke will take him on as a camp arm.

  35. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Just read that Pat Summerall died today. He was 82 and he was the main guy for National Broadcasts for decades on CBS.
    Yesterday Lumpy died so we are getting old.
    Wonder if Whitey and Larry Mondello are still around?

  36. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I’d rather have Ngata and Delanie or whoever we found the following year. No contest. Ngata with Justin on our D line would kill some people.

  37. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    We wouldn’t have beaten the Aints in the playoffs last year and been close to the Gnats without his 4 TDs in 2012 playoffs and he came up big in the Flacons game and the Super Bowl.
    In my opinion our defense is superb without ngata but our opffense would suck without Vernon Davis.
    Without the threat of Vernon Davis you have 9 in the box and Gore gets stuffed at the line.

  38. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe not – but we might well have won against the Ravens this year. They were not the same team once he went out injured.
    And really the What Ifs are just too complex: without VD, we probably address our passing game needs with another pick. Maybe we end up with a Hernandez or a Graham. Maybe a WR, too. Once you change one thing, you cannot expect everything else to follow the same script. You can wonder but you can never know.

  39. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The two guys I wanted with our first pick that year was Vernon and Haloti. Obviously we could only take one and I was very happy we got Davis. I was worried we were going to end up with the LB Hawk.

  40. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I read from unca’s that Del went Grienke on us. He broke his left collar bone. Get well Del!

  41. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    That’s his non-drinking arm, so no problemo.

  42. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Keenan Allen’s stock is falling for various reasons and depends what you believe. Maybe too many questions to risk a high pick on?
    If he is sitting there at 33 would you take him or Zack Ertz?
    I would lean towards Ertz if he
    shows he can be an efficient blocker on the Pro level.
    We all know that he has Brent Jones talking him up because he used to coach him at Monte Vista.

  43. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Unless Allen’s forty time can be explained away – I know he is coming off a knee injury – you cannot consider him before round five. A WR at 4.75 is just too damned slow for the 2013 NFL.

  44. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    We have 31 and 34 Bullitt, not 33. I don’t think they take a TE or WR in those first 2 picks. But TE is a bogger need. That being said, if they want a TE they could trade up in the 2nd for Eifert if he’s still available in the mid 2nd round. He’s the best TE in the bunch. . . . He was about the only NDer who had a good game against Alabama.

  45. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’m hoping he’s still nursing a bad knee. Mayber the Niners can get him with one of our 3 rd picks.

  46. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Keenaan Allen that is.

  47. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke delivers his best quote so far as GM: “You’re not going to get a straight answer from me.”

  48. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Of course not. Jimbo’s head would explode if someone in the organization gave a straight answer…

  49. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Pete Schrager has us taking Cyprien, Hankins and then a WR from Baylor. I love the first two picks. I know nothing about the 3rd.

  50. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    LaCanfora says former Seahawks TE Cam Morrah is signing with the 49ers. Anybody know anything about this guy?

  51. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Morrah? I think he was next on Godzilla’s list after the Big Guy got through dispensing with Hedorah and Ghidorah.

  52. robNo Gravatar says:

    so , do we go after needs in this draft or are we still sticking with the BPA philosophy ?

  53. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    We just need Morra TE since we only have two. Look for us to get some morra.

  54. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    A fertilizer plant exploded near Waco tonight? When the boss hears about that…

  55. robNo Gravatar says:

    DAMM BERGER if you keep that up next we’ll be hiring jim mora !

  56. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I think everyone has us taking Cyprien. Looks good to me. SO that means it doesn’t happen.

  57. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You want some mora? Right here on the floora? How about you fauna? You wanna?

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Cyprien ran a 4.6
    What’s that do for us?

  59. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Cyprien is a good tackler simply on stats.
    I do like his height.
    He’s a small school guy that didn’t face alot of top tier opponents either.
    We’ll see how Baalke ranks him soon enough.
    I’d simply look for someone faster than a 4.6, not gonna catch too many 4.4 WRs that way.

  60. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think Rutgers WR Mark Harrison could be a late Rd answer to the departure of Delanie too.
    Good size, excellent speed, weighs in around 230.
    Convert him.

  61. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Cyprien sounds a lot like Goldson . . . Big hitter, bites on double moves, is susceptible deep.

  62. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I have Earl Wolff from NC St rated higher for it’s worth.
    Much faster guy.
    Probably find him in Rd 3 or 4?
    What do I know?
    I’m just anxious to get this Draft started.
    We’ll be able to jump around the Board and hopefully make some impact Picks.

  63. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke was interviewed and he said they were in best player available mode. Then he said we obviously have needs to address. In other words, Skeebers 3:58 . . .

  64. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Precisely Chuck.
    Everything that occurs leading up to the Draft is Dis-Information.
    With a million options out there and a dozen Picks to use, anything can happen.
    It keeps us engaged.
    Then, when it’s done, everyone will apply Grades on College Athletes that haven’t done a lick of NFL activities yet.
    Could be worse I guess.
    We suffered through our years of pain.
    Just happy to be looking forward instead of backward now.

  65. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Caught a program with Mariucci on NFLN the other night where he and Irvin where working with a Group of the Draftees at the WR position.
    I came away impressed with Kenny Stills from OK.
    Kid has a chip on his shoulder and, he is a burner in the 40.
    Catches in traffic and works outside the numbers very well.
    He’s also been working in MMA activities with Jay Glazer from Fox.
    See what happens……

  66. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This is interesting –
    Vernon among a group of Pro Athletes involved in an Investment Scam.

  67. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Morrah went to Cal and is the hybrid “Joker” TE type like Delanie. Analysis courtesy of a Seahag website

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The National Anthem as it should be sung at every event we attend or in other words sing it like you mean it because we are the home of the brave.

  69. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting development.
    At their local Pro Day Zach Ertz was going to attend but not participate.
    Changed his mind when he got there and did a full on audition for the Niners.
    Read what you will into this but something tells me he wants to stay home if possible.

  70. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17