And The Winner Is …

Recently, we’ve seen the Top 20 coaches of all time, the Top 100 players list, and the franchise Mt. Rushmore series dragged out over many weeks by Pro Football Talk. Here at the Outsider, we have two dogs circling a tree all week, squirting their wee-wee at each other. The poor tree is long since dead, but it doesn’t seem to matter.

For some reason, I’m reminded of the ants vs scorpion opening scenes of The Wild Bunch. Morbid fascination.

In a Top 10 Westerns of all time, The Wild Bunch would definitely be a contender. Along with The Magnificent Seven, Hombre, the original Monte Walsh, Open Range, and Dances With Wolves. Clint Eastwood almost has to have one of his movies on the list, but the only one two I can think of off the top that had interesting bad guys were Joe Kidd and Unforgiven. If you don’t have a great bad guy, you don’t have a great movie. Once Upon a Time in the West is a Sergio Leone classic, but Leone drags out too many scenes for my taste. I’m sure astute readers will remind me of some classics that don’t immediately come to mind right now. And Shane isn’t one of them. That’s not a western, it’s a soap opera with a wooden lead character.

The best western villains of all time is basically a two man contest between Richard Boone and Jack Palance. I’m going with Boone. Palance also played some good guys in his career, but Boone looked like a thug even when wearing the white hat in the beginning with his starring role in Have Gun, Will Travel.

Teddy Roosevelt doesn’t really belong up there on the cliffs with Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln. For sheer historical importance, it’s the other Roosevelt that ought to be depicted. But he hadn’t yet come along when Ku Klux Klan member Gutzon Borglum first put his chisel to the granite in 1927.

As for the 49ers Mt. Rushmore, there’s just too many guys to whittle it down to just four. We’ll see what PFT does with it. You know Bill Walsh and Joe Montana will be up there, but then it gets murky. Some franchises were so laughably insignificant that it came close to having a waterboy fill in the fourth guy.

One 49er guy who won’t make it is Frank Gore, but if he has another 1,200 yard season, like he had in 2012, he’ll reach the 10,000 yards rushing milestone for his career. Not bad for a short guy who came out of college with two reconstructed knees. A truly great 49er. And a great guy, too.

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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Among the great westerns of all time you might consider “She Wore A Yellow Ribbon”, “The Long Riders”, “Tombstone”, “Winchester ’73”, “Shane”, High Noon”, “The Searchers”, “Silverado”, “Fort Apache”, “Stagecoach”, “How The West Was Won”, “Dances With Wolves”,”Unforgiven”, “The Horse Soldiers” and the best miniseries “Lonesome Dove”.
    it would be egregious to leave “Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid” off any list when you talk about westerns.
    As far as western villians Lee Marvin as Liberty Valance in “The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance”.
    That’s part of my list but as I get older I have learned to appreciate John Wayne and John Ford.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niner’s Rushmore would have to include Walsh, Montana, Rice and Lott. Hard to exclude Steve Young and Eddie D but they would be my alternates. It is tough when you limit it to 4.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    “She Wore A Yellow Ribbon” has been fully restored. If you haven’t seen this western I highly recommend it as it makes my top 3. The cinematography is breathtaking filmed in Monument Valley

  4. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The greatest movie ever is Silverado. I guess that would also make it the best western.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In case anyone missed it I posted this late last night

    I’ll concede anything is possible in this world including Mangini becoming DC. Just like Bill Walsh coming back in 50 years when they perfect cloning using his DNA.
    Hey it’s possible as anything is but not likely.
    Given a choice of believing Harbaugh or Chuck I choose Harbaugh over the moron.
    Conclusion: Mangini was brought in be an offensive consultant.
    The moron can flap his gums when he has evidence to the contrary.

  6. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No one cares, Buwwitt. Time to let the adults discuss football. Go back to googling best westerns.

  7. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You are like a little chihuahua nipping at the ankles of the big dogs. Let it go already.

  8. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If you’ve never seen “Lonesome Dove” take a weekend and watch the ultimate classic miniseries

  9. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, you shouuld know the best western is on Brockway Road in Truckee.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Chuck

    Isn’t this Skeeber’s blog?
    When you learn to read you’ll see his theme is westerns.
    I forgot you’re a moron.

  11. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Oh, I’m sorry. Skeebs, is it OK to make jokes here on your blog? How about talk football? Is that OK? Or do I have to post about westerns today?
    Of course you forgot, Buwwitt. You forget everything. Like how to walk and chew gum at the same time. Gawd. STFU already. LET IT GO. NO ONE CARES. I speculated about something. BFD. Do we all have to think like you? Or do we get these juvenile posts coninuously from you for the next week any time you get your precious feewings hurt?

  12. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Hey it’s the Chuck and Bullit Show!!! Seems to be a damned rerun, though. #groundhogday

  13. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, specuating about the Mangina hire is tantamount to treason, I suppose.

  14. RenoNo Gravatar says:

    I thought Lonesome Dove was as good as anything I ever saw. Is that a movie or a mini series? Or are movies and mini series the same thing? If it is put it up there next to Silverado.

  15. RenoNo Gravatar says:

    If we are talking movies this should be big day for Del!

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Lonesome Dove is a miniseries
    made for TV and is over 6 hours long.
    Definitely top notch quality storytelling

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I left “Major Dundee” off my initial list and for something funny “The Paleface” and “Son Of Paleface”.
    Jane Russell! Yowza!!

  18. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Forgot one of my faves: “Valdez Is Coming.”

  19. RenoNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s a great (not really) outer space western. Basically a slap stick western. It’s worth a few laughs.

  20. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Most of the best have already been mentioned, so I’ll give you a favorite of mine that isn’t as famous as the rest. “A Big Hand for the Little Lady” (1966). It stars Henry Fonda and Joanne Woodward. It’s more of a comedy-drama set in the old West and revolves around the once a year “Big Poker Game” in town.
    “Any man gets himself married is automatically stupid. Denny’s just refusing to stay stupid. He just don’t ever see his wife.”

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:


    Why do I feel like slapping someone? Must be because of the Johnny Tylers and Joffreys

  22. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Since they have me going to prison over on Chuck’s blog, how bout some of the best WiPs (Women in Prison) films. There’s the 1950, “Caged.” Roger Corman’s, “Caged Heat” (1974). “The Big Doll House” (1971) with Pam Grier is a good one. And “Brokedown Palace” (1999) isn’t your typical WiP, but two women get busted for smuggling and it stars one of my favorites, Kate Beckinsale.

  23. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    A big hand for the little lady is a brilliant film.
    Laugh your guts out but you can only see it once.
    Maverick with Jody Foster and James Garner.
    Now that’s funny.

  24. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Destry Rides Again is another great one.
    Jimmy Stewart, who flew combat missions later.
    Marlene Dietrich, who escaped from the Nazis.
    That’s what Madeline Kahn’s bit in Young Frankenstein was about.

  25. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Blazing Saddles, hands down.

  26. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    One of my favorites is
    “To Be or not to be?”
    Jack Benny.
    Awesome film, tragic then funny

  27. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Last night 3 more Niners joined the NFL Top 100
    Gore (32) Bowman (37) and V Davis (38)
    V Davis in the Top 100 means there is one more TE to be named
    and either Gronkowski or graham will be left off.

  28. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, it’s training camp, Bullit.
    Next are you going to write how the young men sweat?
    Jeebus, dude, get a clue.
    We’re not pros, just fans who love the same team.

  29. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of prison, Dennis, the Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez, has died in San Quentin.
    He was part of the colorful 70s and the wacky serial killers that were seemingly everywhere back then. From the Zodiac killer to Son of Sam there were lots of guys like this out there wreakin havoc.
    “It’s Hedley!!!”

  30. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Not into prison movies, myself.
    Women Westward was a great movie.

  31. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The windmills in Golden Gate Park are a charm, but you have to go during daylight.
    Pier 39 is for tourists.
    You have to go to financial district to get a job, though.
    I love THE CITY and maybe I’ll get a chance to visit again.
    Never saw the Presidio on my commutes.

  32. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    My daughter worked at Lefty O’Douls for a while. If you haven’t been, check it out. If only for the stuff on the walls.

  33. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    True story. Many moons ago when I was about 12, my brother and I got chastised and scolded by one of the waiters at Lefty O’Douls for writing on the walls in the men’s room. Moms thought it was a bit odd when we asked her for a couple of pens when we went to the bathroom.
    Lefty O’Doul epitaph: “The man in the green suit…He was here at a good time and had a good time while he was here…”

  34. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    SF? Gino and Carlo in North Beach. Great little sports bar. Voted “Best Giants Bar” back in 2010 when they won the World Series. My kind of music on the jukebox. Frank, Dean, Tony Bennett et al. I was there the night (5/14/98) when Frank died. Got extra good and stinking drunk that night. Herb Caen used to hang out there and play dice.

  35. RenoNo Gravatar says:

    Black Magic Voodoo Lounge on Lombardi and Van Ness is where I typically go after going to a 49er game. That is where I watched the Cowboys lose their opening game in their new stadium. I usually stay about 50 to 100 yards away at the Travel Lodge. One night I had incredibly bad gas and cleared the bar. I never laughed so hard. My gut was hurting I was laughing so hard. The bartender asked if I was passing gas and I answered, “yes I am” and then couldn’t stop laughing. The funniest part is every one else was laughing just about as hard as they took off for the sidewalk!

  36. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Seriously. I just lost my total train of thought. I had something pertinent and poignant to proclaim. The Giants just took a 3-1 blow on the chin to the Snakes.
    Now? The SF Baseball Team, took the
    lead…works for me…Go Giants!!!…

  37. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Come fly with me, let’s fly, let’s fly away If you can use some exotic booze There’s a bar in far Bombay Come on and fly with me, let’s fly, let’s fly away Come fly …
    Come fly with me…

  38. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Dennis, one evening while I was at Cal, my roomies and I met these gals from Moraga.
    One was beautiful and a good driver.
    We were late and noisy to a play, I think on Market but I’m not certain.
    We went to Washington Square and had dinner and the restaurant owner locked the doors and talked with us until about 4 AM.
    Good times. We had to put the ugly chick to bed.
    They found us and came back a month later.

  39. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    After the play, this beautiful gal from St. Mary’s starts singing at the top of her lungs.
    On Mission at 2 AM.
    I had to tell her to hush.
    I love THE CITY.
    Gals were fine; we didn’t even touch them; they were too drunk to seduce. Nothing illegal or immoral, just good clean fun.

  40. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners have their minicamp starting Tues and lasting 3 days.
    The minicamp is mandatory so the entire roster is supposed to show
    and we’ll find out who’s holding out.
    Then it’s five weeks of nothing scheduled until Training Camp which starts the week of Jul 20.

  41. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Recap of the 3 concluded OTAsCan you spot Mangini working with the DBs?

  42. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:


  43. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I have no idea how this Mangini thing will all play out, but when the guy at Niner Nation tweeted that he had been officially signed to be our “offensive consultant,” I replied, and I quote, “Offensive? Is that a typo?” If it sounds fishy and if it looks fishy, “You’re gonna need a bigger boat.”

  44. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    145th Belmont Stakes to be run a bit later today in Elmont, NY. Selections to follow. My favorite running of the Belmont? That’s an EASY one, EASY GOER in 1989. Usually I root for the horse that has a chance to win the Triple Crown, racing needs another. But not that year with SUNDAY SILENCE. I hated that horse. Not to mention that I had money on EASY GOER in all three legs of the Triple Crown, but that’s beside the point. It was general principles. I truly disdained SUNDAY SILENCE. That horse was my Alex Smith of thoroughbred racing. He thoroughly pissed me off. I was so glad to see him lose the Belmont. It was truly a Clint Eastwood moment, that horse “made my day” by losing the Belmont.

  45. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, Skeebs, don’t mess with my boy Teddy.
    He got the Panama Canal built after the French failed.
    I’ve read his book “Through the Brazilian Wildness” many times.
    His one son got stationed in Alaska during WWII and committed suicide.
    His other son was the general portrayed by Henry Fonda in the Longest Day.
    You want a fight, mess with the Roosevelts.

  46. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    “Wildnerness” LOL.
    I hate this new computer setup.
    What time is the first game?

  47. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    FORTY TALES just won the 7F Woody Stephens Stakes. His grandsire? None other than FORTY NINER but of course. Don’t even get me started with that goddamn horse.

  48. RenoNo Gravatar says:

    Del- Since Patton is wearing #11 I am assuming the 49ers are not going to retire Alex Smith’s number?

  49. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No, but he’s wide open.

  50. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    That would be AJ Jenkins! I’ll get back to Del on that one later!

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Del –
    As a kid of about 7 or 8, Dad took me along with a group from work to NYC for my first baseball game.
    Happened to be a Yankee game.
    On the bus ride home, the Dads’ hit a Bar for refreshments.
    My very first visit to a Watering Hole Men’s Room plastered with graffiti.
    Will never forget this one…..
    ‘Please don’t throw toothpicks in the Urinals, Our Crabs can Pole Vault’

  52. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    This is how you win the Belmont:

  53. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I am not sure how much Eric Mangini is being paid to be a consultant but I would think it was on the plus side of $500K.
    Looking at their coaching staff
    before this hire they have 19 coaches on the payroll of which 9 are listed for offense, 6 for defense and 4 are Speacial teams or strength and Conditioning.
    A great deal of financial resources is being devoted to assembling an elite team of coaches.
    A far cry from the penny pinching John York who famously cut out the bottled water for the staff in an austerity program was widely publicized by the beat writers covering the team.

  54. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers, thank you for posting Secretariat’s Belmont. Today is the 40th Anniversary of the greatest single day performance in sports history.
    Today at GGF is the running of the Silky Sullivan Stakes. Silky was an amazing horse. His patented come from behind victories are legendary. Still do this day when a horse wins from far behind, race fans will say, “He pulled a Silky.” Check out this great tribute video if you haven’t seen it. “And then there was Silky Sullivan…”

  55. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, that is some funny bathroom graffiti. Here’s one of the more clever and wittier ones I’ve read…
    Line: “I just accidenty the wrote urinal cake. What should I do?
    Response: Use an action verb.

  56. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, Season 3 finale of GoT later tonight. “Mhysa” It says that Tywin is challenged by Joffrey. I hope Tywin ups the King’s challenge by beating the little shit mercilessly into his own grave. Scratch that. Little bastard doesn’t deserve to be buried. I want his head on a pike and the rest of that poltroon’s body fed to the wolves.

  57. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Joffrey should be bitch slapped by Sansa and then she should shoot a couple of bolts freom that crossbow into his gonads.
    Wow this GOT seaon went by quick. Have to wait 10 months for the next chapter.
    Back to the beginning and it disn’t start Once upon a time…

  58. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    A lot of characters in the promo are gone from the series.

  59. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    So Del?
    What words of wisdom did you leave behind on said bathroom wall?
    Here I sit broken hearted…..?

  60. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I always liked the one at the urinal the said, “Please don’t eat the mints.”

  61. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- If you’re sitting in the bathroom, instead of broken hearted, it could be broken farted!

  62. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of bathrooms, yep it just keeps getting harder to take a dump without the interruptions

  63. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2021 Schedules
09/12: W 49ers 41, Lions 33
09/19: W 49ers 17, Eagles 11
09/26: L Packers 30, 49ers 28
10/03: L Seahawks 28, 49ers 21
10/10: L Cardinals 17, 49ers 10
10/17 BYE
10/24: L Colts 30, 49ers 18
10/31: W 49ers 33, Bears 22
11/07: L Cardinals 31, 49ers 17
11/15: W 49ers 31, Rams 10L
11/21: W 49ers 30, Jaguars 10
11/28: W 49ers 34, Vikings 26
12/05: L Seahawks 30, 49ers 23 12/12 · 10:00 AMCIN
12/19 · 1:05 PM v ATL
12/23 · 5:20 PM v TEN
01/02 · 1:05 PM v HOU
01/09 · 1:25 PM @ LAR

2021 Draft Class
1. QB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
2. OG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
3. RB Trey Sermon, Ohio State
3. CB Ambry Thomas, Michigan
5. OG/OT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
5. CB Deommodore Lenoir, Oregon
5. S Talanoa Hufanga, USC
6. RB Elijah Mitchell, Louisiana
2021 Prognostications
Bullit: 12-5
Grumpy: 13-4
NJ49er: 11-6
Skeebers: 14-3
Winder: 12-5
Rob: 17-0
Spitblood: 0-17