Third Time’s The Charm?

According to YorkiLeaks, the next 49er HC will be Kyle Shanahan. The next GM will be one of the guys from Green Bay or the one from Arizona. Until somebody signs on the dotted line, however, there’s always the chance that master screw up Jed York could kabosh the whole thing.

For the moment, we’re going to assume that York needs a win so badly, he’ll lay low, lick boot, or grovel in any fashion necessary to make sure this scenario comes to fruition. If it doesn’t, York has painted himself into a corner with no Plan B and no exit strategy.

Last year, nobody wanted to work for the Niners. Hue Jackson even picked working for the Browns over coming to Santa Clara. Ouch. If anything, after a 2-14 year which included a 13 game losing streak, the Niner HC job should be even more undesirable. But it isn’t. And that can only be because Trent Baalke is no longer here. It was him that nobody wanted to work for.

Baalke’s legacy is brutal. Under his watch, the 49ers ran off Jim Harbaugh, the most successful HC since the Yorks took over the team at the turn of the century. He also let a Super Bowl roster deteriorate into a pile of garbage, full of players who were happy and content being losers. Arguably the worst roster in the league.

Baalke’s disastrous run did enable York to discover that a popular young owner can become a hated pariah in a mere two years flat. York acknowledges some of his own culpability, but until he restores Harbaugh to his rightful place in 49er lore, he will remain a spiteful little boy who is not man enough to ever be admired or trusted.

But that’s his problem. Good luck, kid. You’ve got a long way to go and not a whole lot folks who think you’ll ever get there. But you got lucky once, when Harbaugh chose to be the HC of the 49ers, and maybe you’ll get lucky again this year when Shanahan comes aboard. At the very least, just get away from the football side of the business and give the new regime a chance to bring some pride back to this franchise. The pride you pissed away.




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85 comments on “Third Time’s The Charm?
  1. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep those are the cold facts; brutal, hard and real. Is it possible York has awoken to the reality of his trusted GM being an agent of destruction as we here have long maintained? Maybe, we’re going to find out now aren’t we? Most here would agree that Balkey aided by a naive ownership directly created our current pathetic state. What was obvious 2-3 years ago to Madden and most all of us here has finally penetrated the skulls of the Niner powers that be? One can hope. 5-11 and 2-14 will do that for redeemable deplorables only however.

    The hole is deep and wide. The questions are have we stopped furiously digging and have we started to backfill this pit?

  2. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, until we sign these guys nothing is for sure. And, it wouldn’t surprise me if Shanny is playing us for a nice raise in ATL. I did like the report where it said that Denise interviewed Cable by phone from Ohio. I guess young Jedi isn’t trusted very much. How funny.

  3. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    The report was on the nfl website.

  4. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    LG, can Leary move to RG and be better than Tiller? IOL of Garnett, Beadles, Leary with Kilgore at C backup. No more picks on IOL, CB, S this year.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/18/ronald-leary-prepared-to-move-on-from-cowboys/

  5. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    It appears the NFL brass has learned nothing about the destruction of success by insisting on giving the finger to the paying public as York is rumored to have. Easy to predict crap ratings for TV football and all things related as the league marches down the path of ‘screw you rednecks, bend over and take it; this is how we roll. Capiche?’ Dumbshits.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/01/nfl-says-lady-gaga-not-banned-bashing-trump-superbowl/

  6. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Have to think the Shanahan camp will be better at drafting. From a NN fanpost to get a 3rd from HOU to get Brock Osweiler and all of his contract.

    Also suggested that we get Cutler as a FA. I would more likely give Kyle a free pass his first year. What do you think of this proposal.

    Get HOU 2nd and 4th and get Brock Osweiler and all of his contract. With a lot of D stars I assume they are close to the salary cap, especially the big JJ Watt contract. Osweiler’s guarantees are big the first 2 years so he can compete with BG as the bridge QB and we get QBOTF in 2017 or 2018 and slowly develop him. Even trade a player to make it work.

    In FA would go after Brandom Williams NT hard and keep Ian Williams and Dorsey. Latter two are injury prone and Ian may not recover enough from the ankle surgeries.

    2017 draft get WR1 and ILB with first two picks. One or two 2nd Rd picks from tradedown or HOU trade for another WR1/2 and maybe OT.

    OLB demands a 1st Rd and I value WR1 and ILB more at this time.

  7. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    If get an FA ILB similar to Trevathan then all 1st and 2nd Rd picks will be O. WR1, WR1/2, QBOTF, and OT.

    Any or all of the QB’s can be traded or released in 2018 (BG, Osweiler, 2017 QBOTF if trade makes sense).

  8. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    A lot of talk/rumor that McDaniels dropped out because of Marathe.

  9. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Marathe? I believe it. Why is a bean counter in on football decisions/interviews. Because…Jed.

    Dig baby dig

  10. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Kyle has found his greatest success with Matt Ryan. So the best way to emulate it?

    Maybe the big armed Jay Cutler.

  11. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Uses zone read runs and play action off of it. Julio Jones exploits this. So first pick Mike Williams?

    Zone blocking. So Tiller is a power blocker and hawked in a trade? Marcus Martin is gone. Who is more Alex Mack like, Beadles or Kilgore.

    His O sounds like a fit with Jay Cutler. Is BG capable.

  12. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    At the risk of causing NJs head to explode again here is the BASG quoting Kawakami on the vast influence of Marathe on the Niners football operations =

    “We have our answer on Paraag Marathe”

    http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/we-have-our-answer-on-paraag-marathe/

    “analytics department.”

    Put simply, Marathe has influence, along with the ear of ownership. He’s been there for 16 years, and he has transcended the bubble of accountability in which coaches and General Managers reside. And that’s precisely the kind of dynamic coaches and General Managers try to avoid.”

    “Shanahan is embracing it because, as his final package will demonstrate, he leveraged the team’s desperation to his full advantage. Moving forward, however, it’s an elephant in the room that may be serving as an oversized anchor”

    Cue NJ = 3-2-1 Ka blew y!

  13. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, I’ve resigned myself to those truths long ago.
    The Quasi-GM, aka, The Money Man, did nothing constructive for Baalke IMO.
    I did, (still do), prefer football guys, to be in charge of football Ops.
    In many NFL FOs, the Ownership/Cap guys live outside of the football Ops completely. Not in SF.
    This Moneyball nonsense may have a place in MLB, with stats and analytics, between RHP/LHP vs specific batters in 1-on-1 matchups.
    How they attempt to apply that to 11-on-11 match ups, I’ll never know?

  14. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If true, regarding McDaniels’ intuitions about Paraag, it speaks volumes to how football guys relate to having The Money Man sitting too close to their domain.
    Xs and Os just don’t mix with $$s and ¢ in that World.
    The ‘Suit’ that should be removed is Paraag.

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    One guy Shanahan might consider for his DC is old Niner Jeff Ulbrich who is an up and coming coach.
    Gus Bradley has said no and two other DCs with experience are John Pagano and Ray Horton.

    Gutenkunst might be the favorite for GM because his mentor was Scott McCloughan when they both were at Green Bay.

  16. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t laugh Bullit –
    I’d entertain Rex Ryan as DCo, if he’s amenable to taking the position.

  17. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Guys that have played for him, love him.
    Might be an asset to a 1st timer like Kyle too?

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I say no to Rex.
    He’d be just looking for a steppingstone to another HC opening.
    Would be nice to have some continuity and have a DC that’ll stick around for at least 3 years.

    Speaking of continuity I would like to see Rathman keep his spot as RB coach.

  19. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Gase was interviewed just the other day by Maiocco and I just heard him say That Baalke decided on Tomsula.
    There is a podcast and it is indisputable, straight out of Gase’s mouth. Have to believe this version as it is Gase saying what happened. Other stuff written is speculation.

    Sadly Gase implicated Baalke on deciding on Tomsula.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers

  20. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Report: Eliot Wolf removes himself from 49ers’ GM search

    http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/report-eliot-wolf-removes-49ers-gm-search/

  21. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Wow, much envy to CLE. Also 107 mil in salary cap.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/08/what_picks_do_the_browns_have.html

    Myles Garrett and they can move up their 2nd to grab a QB if they start coming off the board.

  22. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Shanny and Gutekunst for HC and GM IF we are lucky.
    Are we lucky? No but maybe it has changed? Lacking any evidence that is a statement of faith…at least Balkey is gone and some decent coaches have applied this year.

  23. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    phil- lol, “if we are lucky” I agree, when you are down at curb level there only room to move up. Baalky is gone. He will go down as the worst every 49er GM.

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Funny how Chuckles seized on my comment that Jed did something right by cleaning house.

    Worst case scenario was if Jed stood his ground and did absoulutely nothing keeping Baalke as GM and Kelly as HC.
    That would’ve been hard to endure.

    You have to give Jed just a little credit and the opportunity that these moves are for the better.

    Naturally Chuckles spins it his way but essentially everyone is saying that change is good. Chuckles will soon pivot as he already has started.

    Clowns like Chuckles will be clowns especially in the Fairyland.

  25. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners toyed with the idea of bring Fangio back as DC to handle the defensive side for Shanahan.

    Bears squashed that idea by not granting the permission to talk.

    Before this became public the Niners probably sent feelers out to see if Fangio was open to the idea.

    Bringing Vic back would be an admission on Jed’s part that he blundered after Harbaugh left.

  26. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    No to Rex Ryan. Rex would just be using the Niners to promote himself and slither his way back to a HC position.

  27. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Schefter: “Packers exec Brian Gutekunst has decided to remain in Green Bay and not pursue 49ers GM job.”

  28. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    A lot of guys getting raises by simply showing interest in Niners.

  29. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes that must be it = follow the money. Who is left in contention that we know of? The AZ GM? Anyone else? Maybe Shanahan has someone in mind?

  30. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    I hope Jed is listening to all this. His name is not a draw and because of that we will probably get second rate talent. Thanks dipwad.

  31. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Until Jed is gone…. it don’t matter who they hire….

  32. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    From NN this summarizes where the Niners are as of today and gives background to what has happened so far.

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2017/1/21/14344500/49ers-gm-search-rumors-ian-rapoport-analysis

  33. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If Shanhan can build a decent offense that can sustain a drive that would immediately improve the beleaguered defense that was being punished for the quick 3 and outs.

    Today is the Est Werst shrine Game on NFL Network at Noon. Remember when that game was local to the Bay Area. First at Kezar, then at the Stick and final at Stanford Stadium.

    Next week is the Senior Bowl.

  34. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Should read East West Shrine Game.

  35. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    Last East/West game I went to both Gayle Sawyers and Craig Morton were playing.

  36. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I’d heard, (and read) of the Gase accounts regarding Baalke informing him of the change in direction.
    What caught my attention throughout that process was how Baalke pounced on him as soon as Denver made the Coaching changes.
    What I read also, was that Jed/Paraag objected to Gase’s age, then flat out denied Gase’s desire to retain Fangio as DCo.

    Being the spineless turds they are, Tomsula moved front and center, to attempt to save continuity for the Defense.
    This left Baalke to retract, and backpedal, on his efforts to recruit Gase.
    Ask yourself why? After Baalke put all the work into recruiting Gase in the first place?
    He got played by Jed/Paraag and left it on him to look the fool.

    Baalke became the villain, despite getting Gase into the building in the first place.
    Now there are reports that Fangio was on the list again in recent days for DCo?
    These buttheads can’t get anything right.
    Jed/Paraag are desperate now, and every applicant knows it.
    They’re dropping out of the process, simply because they know it’s a cesspool of dysfunction, and career suicide working for these morons.

  37. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Now there’s another GM opening as Irsay canned Grigson.
    Yet another insufferable reject of an Owner looking to fill a vacancy.
    The race to the bottom continues for another GM-wannabe.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/21/colts-fire-ryan-grigson/

  38. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Grigson was bad in draft and FA. Keep him away.

  39. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Oh my god. If Manning is Colts GM then Shanahan not a lock for us anymore.

  40. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Sadly all the evidence points to Baalke being the culprit.

    This article was written yesterday with analyst Tim Ryan as the source. Blows a big hole if you think Marathe and York were afraid of hiring a young coach.

    For me Baalke greased the wheels that led to Harbaugh’s exit forcing Jed to make a choice. Obviously that was a bad choice because once Harbaugh was out Baalke couldn’t stop the bleeding and the franchise went through some of it’s worst times.

    No use bragging about cap space when you don’t spend it.
    York put it upon Baalke to fix things and everything fell apart.

    Why would the Niners revisit rehiring Fangio? Probably because the guy that didn’t want him , Baalke has just bee let go.

    Bottom line is Jed is at fault for letting Harbaugh go, he chose the wrong guy to fire and we are now are where we are now as a result. If Baalke was still GM there is no way he would approach Fangio to come back.

  41. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit what’s been at the crux of my debate is the fact that Baalke got no support as the GM.
    He recruited Harbaugh. It was then a series of disputes between Paraag and Harbaugh (Kaep too) that fueled all sorts of media leaks regarding Harbaugh’s desire to leave.
    Whatever reports you choose to believe, one fact remains, the dysfunction surrounding fooball Ops.
    Tweeter and The Money Man vs Baalke.
    Here are 2 pieces I was able to locate, another of which I haven’t, regarding the Gase fiasco.
    I had also seen reports made that neither Jed or Paraag believed Gase was old enough to hand a 1st time HC gig.
    What’s done is done. Baalke is gone, numerous applicants have removed themselves from the process as well.
    It all suggests to me that the risk of working for Jed is just too high. I’ll support any of the guys brought in to fix the football product.
    Truth remains, Jed is a petulant little turd with no credibility in football circles.
    Above average candidates won’t show up because of his handling of Harbaugh and others along the way.

    49ers wanted Adam Gase to keep Jim Tomsula as defensive coordinator, per report
    http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/2/16/8044353/49ers-head-coach-adam-gase-jim-tomsula

    Greg Papa: 49ers had “verbal agreement to give it to Adam Gase … Jed backed out.”
    http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/greg-papa-49ers-verbal-agreement-head-coach-adam-gase-jed-york-backed-out/

  42. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As for Cap space, the GM isn’t the guy spending it.
    That falls completely on The Money Man, Paraag.
    He determines the value and the price tag, see Mike Iupati for example.
    I’ll disagree with you on who greased the skids for Harbaugh’s removal as well, seeing as Baalke had enough of a relationship with him to recruit him in the first place.
    Baalke was simply stuck with an EVP who was Jed’s BFF and, didn’t get along with Harbaugh.
    It’s a dumpster fire in SF because the 2 top Execs know nothing about football Ops.
    Mommy York interviewing Tom Cable over the phone?
    In what was reported to be a move to keep Shanahan from demanding too much money?
    This franchise is fuk’n joke.

  43. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Or how about this headline?
    Can we assume they initially low-balled Bradley or, could it be that Bradley simply didn’t want to work in Dysfunction Junction?
    He probably couldn’t bring himself to disrespect Seattle by taking the job too?

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/report-49ers-increase-offer-bradley-become-d-coordinator

    If nothing else, he succeeded at getting another offer from SD I guess?
    Once people touch SF, they seem to land better deals elsewhere at least.
    Painting a pretty accurate picture that Jed likely doesn’t want to come to grips with.
    Agents line up in SF to garner leverage I’d suspect.
    Leverage.
    Something Jed & Co has none of.
    No Cred Jed scans the World for ANYONE willing to take his money.
    He wins by default in the end.
    Last guy standing, you’re HIRED!

  44. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Over 2 weeks ago it was reported that Anthony Lynn and Gus Bradley were a package deal. Hiring Lynn would get you Bradley as the DC. Maybe you missed these reports?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/01/report-gus-bradley-to-go-with-anthony-lynn-this-offseason/

    AS for Gase I’m inclined to believe the podcast that has Gase stating exactly what happened. Straight out of the horse’s mouth. If you choose to believe otherwise than we really don’t have anything to discuss.

    Let’s see who the hires are before we start bitching about it.
    I still hope for the best.

  45. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Hiring Shanahan will go a long ways to making our severe doubts about Balkey’s role in this mess moot. He’s gone and that’s one less ‘escape goat’ on the ‘why are the Niners so screwed up’ list. That leaves 2 prime suspects- York and the bean counter. IF Shanahan gets away won’t it be conclusive proof that not only Balkey’s prickly personality, which is quite real, but that the 2 remaining suspects here are also to blame for prospects not signing? Can’t blame the Balkey one now tho this does nothing to excuse his past part in Harbaugh, etc.

    If these recruiting problems persist now and into the future we will surely know Marathe and Jed are a toxic combination. This in addition to the dubious history (and legacy) these two have here.

  46. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Now with Grigson out in Indy could Irsay dump Pagano next? Sure he could and would be in a search for a HC to. Hmmm, who would be available? Shanny goes to Indy we will know that our owner+bean counter ARE STILL enough to destroy our future. True many of us are convinced these two are a big part of the problem and really do not need any further evidence.

    Yoicks!

  47. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    So much has transpired in the York Era Phil, that I’m not buying anything that comes from either of their mouths, to be honest.
    Most everyone is an ‘escaped goat’ for these 2.
    Too many guys in this current ‘job vacancy search’ have already removed themselves from the process, to even think they don’t want the job for any reasons other than, not working for Jed.
    Caserio and McDaniels, Eliot Wolf and Gutekunst, etc.

    Turning to back Fangio, after it was reported that Gase wanted him?
    Upping the offer for Gus Bradley?
    Seems a bit obvious to me that he didn’t want to be here to begin with.
    Especially when it was suggested that he wanted to work with Cable.
    I’m going to assume word got out from Cable and Trent Kirchner, that Mommy York was playing them, as leverage against Shanny.
    Who does business like this?
    Losers do.
    4th HC ‘search’ in 4yrs?
    It smacks of desperation now.
    How dynamic of a Coaching Staff can a 1st time HC be expected to assemble at this late stage?
    Knowing the track record these morons have accumulated to date.
    ‘Mutual parting’ with Harbaugh? yeh, right.
    This is just desserts, for being disloyal douchebags IMO.

  48. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If speculation comes to fruition in Indy, that Peyton Manning will be offered the GM job, who would you think has the more attractive pieces in place?
    Short of Irsay and Jed being a ‘wash’ as Owners, they might just have the upper hand by having Andrew Luck on the roster.
    Shanny gets his choice of ‘someone to be named’.
    We are NOT an attractive destination.

  49. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This sums it up pretty neatly –

    http://tinyurl.com/zed472t

  50. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And while you’re there – This piece plays to your scapegoat angle –

    http://tinyurl.com/zmghqxk

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    There’s nothing going here other than ‘who will take the jobs’.
    No Cred Jed is simply running around the Country with blank check in hand, looking for someone to take the heat off his thinly coiffed noodle.

  52. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Yeah I get you love Baalke, defending him tooth and nail.

    You think he had no agenda against Harbaugh? Need I remind you about his daughter Cass and social media?

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/trent-baalkes-daughter-rips-49ers-offensive-coordinator-greg-roman/

  53. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I’m defending the GM’s role in football Ops against 2 Execs who gave him little to no supporting assistants in his efforts.
    Who gives a flip about his Daughter?
    She’s got a Twitter account, just like Jed did.
    She’s a child. What’s Jed’s excuse?

    Baalke is gone, I haven’t lost a minute of sleep, nor shed a tear.
    No love lost on my account.
    I’m supporting the next GM too, while hoping he gets more than Paraag looking over his shoulder.
    Several guys have already removed themselves from the process, pointing directly to the role Paraag plays in this dysfunctional mess.

  54. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s another reason why I believe what I believe, to be an important observation regarding the Harbaugh Era is SF.
    Plenty of reason to suspect that Jed and Paraag pulled the strings and lit the fuses to undermine Harbaugh too.

    http://cohn.blogs.pressdemocrat.com/18608/jed-york-tell-truth/

  55. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Well NJ hope dies hard. I would like to believe that York is ‘redeemable’ and we can one day look forward to a functional and winning team. Lowell Cohn certainly doesn’t think so. And even with hope I’m not really very optimistic about this working out. Losing Shanahan to Indy would clinch it for me…

  56. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not holding my breath either Phil.
    If Shanny bails for any reason, we’re sure to be considered the Official wasteland of the NFL I’m afraid.
    Candidates are dropping like flies, which isn’t a good sign.

  57. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I had hoped that Kelly would be able to stand up to the FO but obviously that didn’t happen. Blogged that right here about a year ago too. If Shanahan can’t rope York and Marathe in = get power over Marathe and full control of roster, draft, etc then we will not pull out of this dive. Many here believe we are doomed as long as York in the top dog. They may well be right,
    sadly

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil I believe Jed defers to Paraag in most matters related to how the team is run.
    Thanks in no great part, to Dr Daddy who put him there.
    It’s a sad reality we all have to face, (York entrenched for life) unless Mommy and Daddy wise up to the facts, Jed can’t even fake it as an NFL Exec.
    Whether Shanny has a voice in this Power Group, I’m sure Paraag could easily sway Jed in any direction he would need him to move.
    Given the process as it now stands, they would simply be giving Shanny a choice of guys they’ve already chosen for him.
    Not exactly a position of strength, nor a blank slate from which to set precedent.
    I’d laugh my A$$ off, if Shanny accepted and, chose his Father, just to see how that would blow the doors off their ‘Hiring Tour’.

  59. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I agree with this: (from #80 Cohn jr blog)

    “I now want the Falcons to lose. We need to lock up our GM and HC on Tuesday. Don’t let Irsay anywhere near Shanahan.”

    and this is interesting:

    “Chuck Pagano should be our DC if he is ends up getting fired”

  60. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep NJ let’s get Mike Shanahan for our GM! Great idea

  61. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Jed has succeeded in telegraphing his every move along the way, down to Mommy playing Cable via telephone interview.
    IMO, there needs to be someone other than Paraag sitting atop the food chain in football Ops.
    A McVay/Policy-type that keeps watch on football Ops, while keeping The Money Man away from it all.

  62. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    For the last 10 years or more coaching searches and GM hired have been very transparent. Can’t remember the last time a Head Coach was announced as a total surprise. This might be an end result of the “Rooney Rule” where there is a mandate that a minority candidate must be interviewed.

    The fact that Shanahan is the target and the Falcons are still alive to making this a long process. The second interview is actually getting Shanahan and the GM candidate in the same room
    to talk about their football vision. This cannot happen while the Falcons are still in the mix. The same can be said for the 2 Packer candidate for GM who couldn’t interview until they were out or next week during the SB bye week.

  63. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    The Colts with Peyton Manning in FO is sooooo much more attractive than the Jed monstrosity that Kyle wall have to be won over with money and some mega deal.

    Mexifornia tax rates need to be figured into it.

    Alternative is Todd Haley, now Big Ben’s OC. If he lacks people skills and gravitas then hire an exec VP to help in his weakpoints.

    Shanahan still choice #1. Acceptable with Haley as #2. He was let go as a previous HC but most need to deal with and overcome mistakes to get better.

    Colts with Manning trumps Jed dollars. Need to start looking for #2 option. Manning and Luck seals it.

  64. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Irsay has already said Manning is not coming in as GM or anything else.

  65. NoFearNo Gravatar says:

    What’s Shanahan done that makes him the guy Niner fans are pissing themselves over?

    Seems to me last year he was a run-of-the-mill bum and Matt Ryan was a washed up loser.

    The Falcons are a playoff team this year with no credit to the defense, the head coach, the QB or any of the players, I guess it was all Shanahan and now he’s the new Bill Walsh?

    He’ll run the offense and everything else along with the draft and Jed and Marathe will just toe the line for him?

    What a laugh.

    btw, no matter what promises are made to land the new HC/GM they all fade away at the whim of the little shit in charge of the big shit-show in Santa Clara.

  66. NoFearNo Gravatar says:

    Have I mentioned how repugnant the two GB fans announcing the game today are? Even worse than the National Anthem performed as a jazz tune on a saxophone ahead of the game.

    Looks like Kyle is beating the crap out of the whole GB team, sideline crew and zebras single-handedly.

    What a guy! He’s like a superman! I hope we get him! I hope we get him!!!! The Niners will be just like that with Kyle on the job!!!!

  67. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    Lol. Now he’ll have a couple of more weeks to formulate another plan. No one could make this S*** up if they tried. Inept is the only word that comes to mind.

  68. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The year of the blowouts.

  69. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula is back! D-line coach for Washington.

  70. NoFearNo Gravatar says:

    Back with Manusky, look out for rats Gruden.

    Must make him one of the best paid coaches in the league.

  71. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    So far for us Shanahan has only agreed, we think, to be the latest sacrificial lamb or escape goat to appease our Yorkian masters. Will he lead us to the promised land ala ATL? Probably not; won’t be a quick cure. Will he the rookie HC be able to stand up to the sinister duo of Yoicks and the bean counter? Even less likely. But we may get a marginally better O out of the deal. OTOH he could go to Indy. He’s gotta be better than Tommy Boy or the dough boy tho.

    For Shanahan to succeed here the FO will have to be rebuilt- and how likely is that?

  72. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Falcons are lining up potential OC candidates and one of them is Chip. When was the last time a OC and a HC switched places like that?

  73. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Except who they are related to the GMs are all unknowns to the regular fan.

    McDonough happens to be the son of Will McDonough who was a football commentator on CBS.

    Of all the GM candidates the only names I knew before this search was Jimmy Raye III and Eliot Wolf and it was due to who their fathers were.

    No certainty on how they’ll perform until they’re on the job.

  74. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Irsay has already said he’s keeping his head coach and just getting rid of the GM.

    Remember Indy has Chud as the coach in waiting. That’s why he never interviewed when Jimmy T was looking for his OC.

    Redskins are promoting another ex Niner to be their OC in Matt Cavanaugh.

  75. SpitbloodNo Gravatar says:

    Since the Yorks have owned the team and their hires:

    GM: Walsh, Donahue, Nolan, McCloughan, Baalke.

    HC: Erickson, Nolan, Singletary, Harbaugh, Tomsula, Kelly.

    In the 15 years or so the Yorks have owned the team, few pro organizations have proved less stable. You guys are wasting your time until the Yorks are gone…. and they aren’t leaving.

    Warriors, Giants and Wolverines…

  76. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Misery loves company Spit. The love affair was great for awhile but now we just have ourselves to rub the wounds. We are a pretty realistic group I think. It’s like a bunch of friends watching your ex going wrong = “new coach, yeah right. New stadium, haha. new players, please.” Nothing is working and it’s all the ex’s fault. What could be better given the circumstances and the stupid choices the “ex” insists on making?

    The Niners, the Rams, the Chargers, the Browns, and others have been done in by moving, building stadiums out of their home areas or sheer owner/league greed. It was good while it lasted wasn’t it? Sadly this is reality

  77. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Browns got a treasure trove of picks so the Falcons could get Julio Jones, or so they thought. The five picks the Falcons surrendered to Cleveland to move up from the 27th pick. The Browns collected Atlanta’s first-, second-, and fourth-round picks for the same draft in addition to a first- and fourth-rounder the following year
    This is what they did with

    Phil Taylor DT 1st rd, Greg Little WR 2nd rd, Owen Marecic RB 4th rd,, Brandon Weeden QB 1st Rd, Trent Richardson RB 1st Rd( Browns used the 4th rounder they obtained from ATL plus their pick to hop up a spot to pick Richardson.

    So it doesn’t matter how many picks you have, but what you do with them. If Julio Jones weren’t a Falcon would they be in this year’s Super Bowl?

    Browns constantly squander their top picks (Johnny Football anyone?)

  78. WinderNo Gravatar says:

    Yea, it just goes to show that the whole organization has to be on the same page. Once you get the players the coaches have teach them the system. There has to be a plan where the GM and the HC know what they want and where things are going.

  79. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t remind us of the pain.

    2012 draft. Tank Carradine and Corey Lemonier from 2013. 2014’s 3rd RDers Brandon Thomas and Marcus Martin, then Borland retired.

    Cannot miss on Day 1 and 2 picks. At least Aaron Lynch and Trenton Brown turned out gold from day 3.

  80. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas, 1:05 p.m.
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia, 10 a.m.
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona, 1:05 p.m.
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants, 1:25 p.m.
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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