Lowered Expectorations

As we prepare to absorb another season of 49er football, it’s good to keep in mind that big, red, rectangle area at the 50 yard line that became known last year as the “Red Hole.” Those are the very expensive corporate customer seats and they emptied out completely after about the second home game last year. After three straight shellackings made it abundantly clear that Jed York had taken the money they paid for a prime rib team and served up a plate of baloney instead.

Will Chip Kelly put some butts back in those seats this year? Will they show up for game one, giving him the benefit of the doubt? Or will they stay away until the team proves it is worth watching?

Will there be planes flying over the stadium again this year, with nasty banners directed at York?

Currently, the 49ers are listed as underdogs in every game they play this year. Will they be good enough to become the favorite against anybody before the year ends. Will they win even one game?

It’s doubtful expectations are this low anywhere else in the league. So there is that. Some slogans under consideration for the coming season are “Least of the Least” and “Standing Tall on the Bottom” or “We Got Plenty of Nothing.”

All jokes aside, nobody really knows what to expect from the Niners, or Kelly, this year. A better offense than last year’s dead last jalopy, but that’s about all. A big chunk of this season, and the future, depends on the team’s past two first round picks — Arik Armstead and Deforest Buckner. If these guys turn into studs, the defense has a foundation to build on. If they don’t, the 49ers’ residence in the NFC West cellar is going to be a long term occupancy.




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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    IMHO I have always thought that the roster turnover would never have been as extreme if Harbaugh was given an extension. Guys like Willis and Cowboy would’ve have stuck around if they thought the Niners would legitimately compete for the Super Bowl.
    They saw the writing on the wall once York replaced Harbaugh with Tomsula.
    Guys like Willis and Cowboy wanted that ring and Lombardi Trophy
    so bad that if they thought there was a chance they would’ve endured the pain to make the run.

    Once Tomsula was the hire they saw that ship had sailed and they both retired Borland quitting and Bowman’s injury along with Aldon’s dummy antics made the best group of LBs in the league into a group of nobodys.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Steve Young on Kap

    “Well, Colin’s got to reclaim the locker room, reclaim his teammates. And that’s about accountability. ‘Look, I screwed this up. Regardless of all the things working against me, I’m responsible. I can fix it. Rally around me.’ And I think Colin can get people back. But I think more than anything, that’s what needs to happen before he worries about what’s going on on the field.”

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    Comment from Niner Nation

    The 49ers situation with Colin Kaepernick has been complicated. There have been questions about his relationship with teammates, and of course the problems with the front office have been discussed ad nauseam. But with regard to his teammates, I do wonder how much importance is placed on the basic relationships vs. going out and performing. He struggled last season, and has been trending down the past couple years. If he can step up on the field in training camp and the preseason, will that be enough to get people back on the same page?

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    For the Niners to be competitive and somewhat successful, Carlos Hyde must be the stud running back and stay healthy for the entire year. The fall off after he leaves the field is dramatic and unless someone like Taylor suprises the running game does not have the two in a one, two punch.
    Hyde has to stop taking the hard shots that his running style invites or he’ll have a relatively short career.

  4. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Begins and ends with the run blocking quality of the oline. The new O spreads out the LOS. The west coast offense should keep the safeties out of the box.

    Beadles strong point was ZBS, let’s see if he still has it. Garnett a run blocking stud. A smaller AD a run blocker but maybe the pass pro gets better?

  5. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    So Trent put on his best poker face with Elway and held out for a higher pick for Kap. Elway called his bluff and picked up Dirty Sanchez.

    Kap here is totally on TB. A 14 million a year backup is a striking reflection on TB. The new O has a much better fit with BG, and most likely Driskell too.

    Did TB properly weigh the downside ramifications with Kap in this O. To keep RB’s healthy is a big responsibility of a QB that is WCO capable.

    DEN and CLE were in play. And TB anally quibbled about money and Sanchez and RG3 took those away.

  6. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    A repost and our two bottom NFC teams are CHI and DAL. CLE’s are TENN and SD.

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/06/14/nfl-chicago-bears-defense-vic-fangio-danny-trevathan-jerrell-freeman

    The brittle Romo should last til game 4? First 4 games are Rams/Gurley, Panthers/Williams, Seattle/Rawls, and Dallas/Elliot with run blocking olines versus our weak and injure DL against the run.

  7. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    What if Buckner and Armstead are not adequate against the run. Do we spend next year’s first on a Dontari Poe or Marcell. Dareus. To finally nail down a killer D.

    By sticking with both Ducks the run D is an Achilles heel. A 2017 NT stud in the 1st or a high priced FA. Both may not be available. Getting Mo would have removed this as an issue.

    Something to think about. What good is TB. Does the D still need more work. The dline is still relying on the brittle Ian Williams/Dorsey at NT.

    In run blocking and tackling the low man wins. Two 6’7″ 295 lb guys at RDE and LDE. TB knows D?

  8. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    After the first 6 games we could be 0-6. I would put money down on that.

    Our team is better than last year. Young players need coaching and experience, diet, and weight training.

    The O needs to be installed and the learning curve with a new playbook. A strong running foundation needs lots of reps in practice.

    Being winless prior to TB and NO is the best thing we can hope for.

  9. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    According to Adam Schefter of ESPN.com, the Lions are finalizing a one-year deal with the veteran wideout today.

  10. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Boldin to Lions

  11. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Boone as usual is FOS. Outspoken, whatever, who cares? I don’t blame him for leaving the team after the York/Balkey/Tomsula abuse but taking him seriously is like taking AD seriously in his twitter career. Naw,just psywar yammering from an ex-Niner

    Victim of the FO meltdown courtesy of York, Marathe, Balkey a nd Tomsula the unqualified. Boone? Who cares?

  12. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Being winless prior to TB and NO is the best thing we can hope for.”

    For you maybe bakkentom. 6-0 might be a shade better. I would much rather see GB 0-6 to start the ’16 campaign.

    Nonsense.

  13. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, this is our Suck for Luck year. CLE or SF, neck and neck to the bottom. Need to trade the #1 or #2 for a bounty of picks.

  14. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Because we have a GM that aces the draft, right? Lose now, draft poorly, get no FAs, hire a janitor for the HC, etc. Uh okay.

    Naw our problems are not in getting more draft picks to waste. The Niner FO/ownership directly created our current dilemma and that is where the change needs to happen. Not losing now so maybe we’ll be great later. Which is why I’ve been focusing on the potential impact of longtime Niner personnel expert Tom Gamble now asst. GM. Combined with a fresh start in decent HC material = Chip Kelly and staff. “Losing now” is no substitute for vast improvements in FO jokers (Minions per NJ), coaching upgrades, functional drafts and WINNING NOW.

    You wanted to dump Staley too plus AD, you hate Kaepernick. Right, let’s lose now. Nonsense, sorry. We may suck but I’ll never Advocate for losing

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bounty of picks?
    Baalke had a more draft picks than any other team for several years and he squandered them.
    Why trade a top pick so you can pick a couple of players who have knee injuries and can’t play for a year or two.

    You take top proven talent at the top of the round and you don’t trust Baalke to draft wisely at the bottom of the round.

  16. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, duplicate TENN. Traded #1 for #15, #43, #45, and Ram’s 1st for next year. They traded up #15 to #8. Here it is:

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ten/tennessee-titans

    Why did Tank get wasted as a 3-4 DE project. Why was Marcus Martin and Brandon Thomas picked. Tomsula had to give the OK on the Tank move. A sane owner would have already fired TB.

  17. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Or the Ram’s bounty courtesy of WASH for RG3. How about Garnett at #28 and they took him that high from SEA rumors.

    Why was the AD papers filed this late, almost at TC start. If TB even thinks about a trade, fire his ass.

  18. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Smelter has not worked out well so far either.

  19. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bakkentom, sane owner?
    The GM is being micro-managed by INSANE Owners, who are hell-bent on saving money.
    Baalke has his faults to be sure but, I’ve asked the question a million times.
    Who the eff is in charge?
    Moneyballer and The Minions or, the GM who persuaded Harbaugh to leave the College ranks to lead his first NFL Team?
    I still don’t have a clear answer as to how the Harbaugh/Baalke relationship got sabotaged.
    Let’s just assume, some combination of the 3-Blind Mice contributed heavily to the dysfunction that ensued.

  20. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    I wanted some kind of trade of AD for Mo. Staley for a 2nd or 3rd to playoff bound DEN when both LT’s were IR’d.

    You are right on Kap. His mental deficiencies degrade the other 10 players. 14 mil for a backup. TB made that deal. He did not possess the wisdom and made a terrible commitment on a garbage QB.

    Kap gets another injury that can’t fully heal by April 1, 2017 then we are stuck paying out the 2017 base salary of a backup again.

    Fooled twice makes TB insane. Just like his fanbase. A sane GM would have released Kap after DEN and CLE dried up and on April 2 to avoid legal costs.

  21. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, after all the embarrassing dysfunction with the resultant demotion of Paraag and the Tomsula debacle we would finally put to rest the meddling Jed influence.

    No RT taken in the early rounds. Now we know why. TB stringing along AD for an unknown reason. Why another ACL project with Will Redmond. Why not move up that early 3rd with some of those 5th’s for ??? Why is there still a love affair with day 3 picks.

  22. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Something could still happen with Kaep’s Contract.
    If he fails to win the starting job from Gabbert, there’s the possibility that Fitz and the NYJ could remain apart on an extension.
    A Mo/Kaep Contract swap would make the numbers attractive to both sides IMO.
    Kaep has already been vocal about ‘wanting’ to play for them too.
    Releasing Kaep accelerates the Cap hit.
    Not that we couldn’t afford it of course.
    I’d advocate for letting it go through TC to see what Kaep can show in terms of health and/or Trade value.
    Kaep nixed the deal to Denver. He wouldn’t accept the reduced money.
    It’s all about the money to him right now, not about proving he’s a starting QB.
    He’s got image issues within the SF locker room too.
    I’m leaning toward Gabbert winning the job, simply because he seems to ‘want it’ more.

  23. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Kap had a tutor with the Stanford virtual headset and he still fails QB 101. He is a brain dead jock. Adequate enough for all positions except QB.

    Jets have Hackenburg for a future QB, maybe with a brain. Nope, Kap can only be released. Only question is when.

  24. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    IMO, Baalke seems to favor the ‘development’ angle.
    Right or wrong, he’s the guy they hang it on.
    It just seems to me that Paraag brought the Moneyball tactics into it.
    Did it alter or influence Baalke?
    I have no idea.
    I simply believe it didn’t fit.
    Many reports had Baalke in favor of Andy Dalton.
    Harbaugh wanted Kaep.
    There again, who among us really knows?
    Water over the dam at this point.
    We’ve been a dysfunctional mess since Dr Daddy turned it over to his Minions.
    That much isn’t a debate for me.
    I’ve been, and will continue to be, an advocate for the ‘Football Guys’ when it comes to finding personnel.

  25. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    If there is a trade for Mo, NYJ will have to value AD highly. After the last year, we would waste his potential for what.

    We are stuck. And our GM is holding his dick, with Jed’s fingers.

  26. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    At this point Bakkentom, there are reasons to suspect that AD isn’t a perfect fit for what Chip does on Offense too.
    A year off, without pay, seems to be the motivation for applying for reinstatement.
    Granted, he had a serious concern for his health from the concussion he suffered vs the NYG.
    He didn’t help himself with the Tweets disparaging his teammates and GM either.
    If I were Baalke I wouldn’t be welcoming him back with open arms at this point.
    He’s got to prove it, just like Kaep.
    Talk is cheap in this business.
    Put up, or shut up.

  27. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Kap wants to keep the money foolishly given to him because he knows he can’t produce in a modern 2016 O. Look at all the QB’s taken before Connor Cook in the 4th.

    If he can’t figure it out, his agent can. Kap is nothing more than a high priced rookie.

  28. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke was prepared to let Kaep walk during the offseason.
    It’s not so much about compensation as it is about moving his Contract.
    This is why I find it feasible to consider a Contract swap with the NYJ who have no Cap space to speak of.
    Mo’s money for Kaep would be an interesting option on both sides.
    If Kaep doesn’t go balls to the wall in TC he won’t make himself attractive to anyone.
    Sure, he’ll get his money to some extent in SF.
    Unless he’s deactivated on game days, which I believe could be a possibility.
    Just like RGIII. They’ll keep him on the sideline to avoid the injury clause and simply take the option to walk next Spring if they can’t deal him elsewhere.

  29. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Connor Cook was taken in the 4th. That makes Kap equivalent to a 5th RD rookie. That is his fair market value.

    AD needs to prove it this year. Any trade in 2016 is wasting his value.

    What would I do? Release Kap now. AD is starter for 2016.

  30. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The only beneficial contribution Paraag made was the language implemented in Kaeps’ Contract.
    It provides an ‘out’ every year.
    Wisely done in hindsight.
    The rest is now on Kaep to make himself worthy of another year, either in SF or, elsewhere.
    If he dogs it he won’t see another fat payday deal.
    SF is likely going to make him as attractive as possible in TC, in hopes of attracting a suitor.

  31. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Strange things can happen. RG3 has ankles and knees of glass. He gets,a bad injury in preseason. Wise choice would be McCown. Hue may want Kap.

  32. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    AD would make a good OG IMO.
    He and Iupati were similar in terms of size.
    AD had better feet but, wasn’t as strong.
    After a year away, his conditioning is likely a major question mark.
    Again, we’ll see soon enough.
    Ballke has reloaded the roster with quite a few OLmen now.
    The competition is on.
    Conditioning under Chip is miles away from what Harbaugh required.
    Let’s see how much AD ‘wants to win’.

  33. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Garnett would be the presumptive LG.
    TC will answer those questions.
    Conditioning and smarts will determine who sticks and who sits.
    AD is a Jersey guy too.
    NYJ just forced DBrick into retirement.
    Might have a place for AD and/or Kaep on their roster.
    Kaep/Mo Contract swap?
    AD for a Pick perhaps?
    Certainly has some reason to be considered IMO.
    Takes 2 to work a deal so we’ll just have to see how the chips fall during the TC phase.

  34. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Chip if he has any ‘pull’, power or balls is NOT going to let Kaep go before a long test drive this season. Kaepernick has a strong advocate in Kelly count on it. Trade Colin for Mo? Never happen if Chip has any say- and I pray he does. The fixed opinions of bloggers about CK are just that and will not determine anything- only Kellys will. Balkey is having his fingers pried off the O, not increased. Trading Kap will not happen without Kellys approval and that will not happen in TC or before the end of this season IMO.

  35. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    BTW I have read smart guy Marathes “pay for play” contract deals ala Kaepernick’s IS WHAT (in part) is keeping top FAs away from SF. Pro athletes and their agents do NOT favor these kinds of deals when they can get the standard long term deals with bigger money up front elsewhere. This is good for the teams bulging cap space but for actual football players not so much. Kap figured out how to weasel around it- good for him after the Niner F job he got in return from the Minion Morons. This is another turd from Marathe the disgraced bean counter, may he rot in hell…or in Sacramento, Fresno, Bakersfield…

    Moneyball indeed

  36. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil this is where the line gets blurred for me.
    Is Baalke being coerced into ‘bargain shopping’ in the Draft by Paraag?
    Is the MO to buy from the ‘bargain rack’ (ala ACLs) with the hope of developing and extending on the cheap?

    The Moneyball approach is definitely not something the ‘old school’ guys in the NFL have practiced.
    This approach is strictly a new concept which, IMO, is being applied via the Billy Bean system used in MLB.
    Stats-driven by nature.
    Keeping rosters young in the NFL is fine, if you’re getting production.
    Easier to build depth on the cheap too.
    I still think there needs to be a balance of Vets, and youngsters, in order to learn the ropes.

  37. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    My gripe has been that GM/HC and Scouts know what they’re looking for.
    Applying Moneyball practices seems to me, at the very least, myopic.

  38. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I can easily see a scenario where Harbaugh/Baalke wanted a specific guy in the Draft and, Paraag jumps in to lobby for a bargain rack guy.
    Harbaugh gets pissed.
    Baalke gets upstaged.
    Harbaugh turns on Baalke due to the powerplay.
    Hence, you get Harbaugh pushing back, and igniting the meltdown.
    We may never know but, what’s done is done.
    It is…what it is.

  39. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap still has to prove that he can read a defense and run a no huddle up tempo offense. That requires thorough knowledge of the playbook and the word is Kap has never put the time in to be that good student.
    The story came out last year that Gabbert spent 5 times as much time studying film than Kap.

    Chryst “dumbed down” the offense last year and cut the field in half to cater to Kap’s study habits.

    This play puts it all in a nutshell, Kap has no field vision
    and was a major part of what was wrong with the offense.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2MUiIcwQPM

    That play was damn embarrassing and high school QBs make the reads. IMO Kap has ability but what’s between his ears does not translate into a NFL QB.

    Chip Kelly’s offense has structure and a purpose. Freelancing and looking to run after an initial read isn’t going to cut it. Neither is staring down your targets.
    Year six as a NFL QB and still making rookie mistakes. Time to move on.

  40. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m just waiting to see where all this surplus Cap budget is going to get spent.
    Sitting on the dough doesn’t improve the roster.
    Spending just to spend doesn’t either.
    Someway, somehow, Baalke and Chip need to come together and decide what pieces need to be added without any interference from above.

  41. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Which is why I’m leaning in Gabberts’ direction Bullit.
    He has seen JAX and Top 10 money already.
    He now wants to show that he deserves to keep his starting job.
    Kaep either wins it back or, IMO, he’s toast.

    Mike Vick 2.0

  42. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    VMcD caught everything thrown his way in College.
    He takes his share of the blame for not getting better as a Pro.
    But…Kaep throws with too much heat on many of his attempts.
    There’s a clichè often used, throwing a ‘catchable ball’.
    Something Kaep hasn’t mastered yet.
    Kelly’s Offense requires timing/accuracy and touch.
    Kaep can’t succeed throwing lasers on the underneath routes.
    Mechanics have to improve as well.
    I’ll give him his due, to either prove he can, or can’t, over the next few weeks.

  43. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m sure Baalke would like to have an option other than releasing him for nothing in return.
    See what develops…

  44. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap is his own worst enemy.He chose to insist on keeping his contract rather than renegotiating his contract and becoming the starter in Denver.
    In another dummy move he’d rather collect his money as a Niner and ride the bench rather than start in Denver, try to reinvent himself and forcing Denver to pay him next year if he had any success there. The fact that he had to compete against Mark Sanchez scared him off.

  45. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I watched that play Bullit (for the first time) and I see what peeps were talking about. Inexcusable truly but my take is YEP Kap better improve in this new system or he won’t be playing for Kellys Niners. Fine with me and Chip Kelly will make that call. CK will get his chance; Kap will NOT be dumped without an evaluation by Kelly as some suggest. Is Kelly that stupid? or is it the “Get Kap outta here crew, I’ve seen enough” who is? Yes many are fed up with the past year w/Kaepernick but there is only one HC and he’s not blogging here or anywhere else. So while many have seen enough Kelly hasn’t, but he won’t coddle anyone unlike the unqualified teachers pet.

    Just for the sake of masochism I watched another YouTube vid of Kap fumbling on the goal line against the Rams. Ugh, killer. Yes we will need to see greatly improved play from this QB, this OL, the run game, the D, everyone. I think AD who did quit for health reasons (and the FO deserved the FU richly. Not the team or the fans tho) will help our run game, a big part of the Kelly O. I welcome him back and want to see what he can contribute. Again the coaches to make the determination as for them and him, this is a fresh start.

  46. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap’s fanboys are mesmerized by the occasional spectacular big play. Unfortunately they happen only about 4 or 5 times a season.
    That’s another problem, the lack of consistent play at a high level. There were many, many games where teams stacked the box to stop Gore and Kap was unable to defeat the invitation by the defense to defeat their single coverage.

    Soon more and more defensive coordinators knew that the strategy of making Kap beat them was a winning one and Kap became less effective to the point he got benched.

    Lack of consistent play leads to mediocre and predictable offense.

  47. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    It wasn’t Sanchez it was THE MONEY Elway wouldn’t give him that screwed that pooch. I don’t blame CK one bit for turning his nose up at that “offer”. Cheapskate Elway not going to fool the 4.0 Business Major Kaepernick with the pay cut scam. Nice try John

  48. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    That’s the rub guys.
    Is Kaep willing to compete or, trying to keep the money for 1 more year?
    His desire to leave was strike 1 for me.
    Strike 2 is going through the motions of showing up.
    Strike 3 will occur if he doesn’t win vs Gabbert.

    As Bullit said, if you couldn’t take on Sanchez, to prove yourself worthy of another deal in Denver, you likely aren’t motivated enough to be an NFL starting QB.

  49. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah that Tomsula offense fooled everyone/snark. Must have been the QB all the way, right? Are you kidding me? Niners trot out a JV O after scaring away half the team and there was NO ONE who played at a “consistently high level” last year. Sure Kap was one of them but he was far from the only one on the FO engineered train wreck called the 2015 Tomsula Niners. Kap stinks it up this year then he will have earned your contempt and his reward. I refuse to be vindictive and will await the judgment of the only one who’s opinion matters – the HC, the non-‘fanboy’ whatever that is.

  50. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Niners and Elway tried and failed to tag team Kap into taking a pay cut. Kaepernick as I previously posted requested a trade AFTER Marathe demanded Kap take said cut. NOT BEFORE, keep that in mind. That strike is on the stupid FO. Again! The Niners FO, as is their new (Yorkian) tradition, have shown bad faith towards their players, coaches and fans. Unlike many who quit, retired or were fired Kaepernick flipped them the bird, refused to take a cut and has stuck around PER CONTRACT. I want to see what he can do with a coach who is not under attack by a duplicitous pack of money grubbing control addicts- or an unqualified teachers pet. Kelly and I will let you know our determination in due course. Mainly Kelly. Deal with it children

  51. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Phil

    You know that if you have any hope in the NFL you need exemplary play from your QB. Coincidentally the bellcow of the offense, Gore was sent packing. Hyde lasted a couple of games until he was shelved for the season. Crabtree was the guy that kept the chains moving and he was let go. VD for whatever reason was a non factor.

    Still without a strong running game the offense falls on the shoulders and the arm of the QB. Win or lose the QB in my mind
    deserves at a minimum 50% of the glory or 50% of the blame.

  52. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Phil

    I agree that York, Marathe and Baalke could’ve helped facilitate the trade by paying part of the contract ($5 mil?) just to get Kap out of Santa Clara. Too cheap to do that they would rather take the short view and have him ride the pine and pay Kap $14 mil to do that. By trading Kap they would have gained a draft pick and earned a little more cap space.

  53. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    No argument there Bullit. Kap will not be coddled by Kelly or by me(so to speak). We, Chip and I, will give him every chance to prove he has what it takes to be an NFL QB or not. By our not trading him ASAP, cutting him on a whim, demanding he take a PAY CUT for Crys sake, scaring off half the team, etc. See Chip and I will give Mr Kaepernick every chance to regain his form or develop as required in a non-hostile work environment. Something team history tells us he has not had since Jimi called that dumb TO in the SB. We will consult closely with Tom Gamble to handle the dysfunctional FO, the owners, conduct the DRAFT, etc etc. Chip and I we have a lot of work to do and we will let ya’ll know first thing.

  54. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Competing for a job is a new thing for Kap. He has always been penciled in as the starter and that helped foster some complacency and laziness on his part.

    Now that he has to fight for that position will show what he is made of.

    I have always felt the QB position should be up for grabs and the guy that gives you the best chance to win will win out.

    A lot of the blame also falls on Harbaugh/Baalke who failed to draft QBs to come in and challenge Kap. Team’s ought to spend a draft pick every year on a QB just to take a look and provide competiton.

    Bringing McLeod Bethel Thompson into training camp is not pushing Kap with a serious threat to his job.

    It’s always been a head scratcher with the cache of draft picks that Baalke stubbornly refused to use it on QB talent.

    That is why we have the Gabbert/Kap completion now which is not exactly who plays well enough to be the QB but who flames out less.

  55. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Would like to see what Kap looks like now as the reports are he has not really been able to do his usual workout, has lost a lot of weight and the reports are he looks frail.

    Will find out on Saturday when he reports to camp.,

  56. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    The trade to the Bronks didn’t happen because as you said the FO is too cheap and stupid AND ALSO Kelly who was on board then wants Kap here. Kap is here because Kelly wants him here regardless of FO or fan desires. Kelly does not have a fixed or hopeless opinion about this QB. Maybe he will in a few months after his professional evaluation. But not before, not now! Trust me, we work closely together, Kelly, me and Gamble.

  57. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Many of our questions will be answered soon enough as we see Kap and the whole team together at the start of TC. It’s going to be an interesting year with new coaches etc. No great expectations tho, my expectorations are lowered now.

  58. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “With three players suspended this year, Cowboys will be subject to a fine in range of $250,000, based on last year’s club remittance policy.”

    Cowboys lead league in one category, at least.

  59. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “The Rams will release quarterback Nick Foles, NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo reported Wednesday.”

    You might get your wish soon, Bakkentom.

  60. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I think it’s gonna be kinda fun this year. Nowhere to go but up.

  61. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Whoa

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/7/27/12301502/rams-release-nick-foles-no-i-don-t-see-him-with-49ers

    And the first comment is this:

    Loser of Kaep/Gabbert battle gets traded, and Foles is da back up..
    Yes, this is a real possibility

  62. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    So everyone thinks FO are cheap ass c@#nts. If so then the logical next step is release Kap and sign Foles.

    FO risks being on the hook for 14 million, or whatever his base is next year. Why risk a surgery with a lengthy rehab that extends past April 1, 2017. FO needs to send the grim reaper, er Paraag, to Kap and agree to a new contract like Gabbert for this year or get released.

  63. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Jets sign Ryan Fitzpatrick to one-year, $12 million deal
    http://tinyurl.com/gnteqkj

  64. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Kelly not the FO rats are calling the shots on who becomes the Niner QB. Yeah the FO/owners are cheap bastards but KELLY is running the O. Not York, Balkey, Marathe or any other minion. Kelly, Gamble and Phil will never allow the O to be usurped again. Got that Cassie? Trust me on this. As much as the control freaks and power addicts hate it in the FO WE have it in legaleze that they will not destroy the O again. Also the D but hey, baby steps.

    You must think Kelly, Gamble (and Phil) are idiots. Wrong. Embrace the bern, vote for change, crush the globalists. Um, wrong blog sorry.

  65. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, move over on that soapbox.
    I call for a referendum of change in SF 49er Politics as well.
    No more Minion Meddling!
    Football Guys ONLY!

    Weenie Ownership-types need not be involved!
    Go play GOLF!
    Get a manicure!
    Host a radio call in show.
    ANYTHING but football related activities!

    Better yet….GO FLY A KITE!

  66. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The Weenie Wizards of Odds
    Starring Dr Daddy as The Curtain
    Young Jedi as the Pie Faced Feckless FO Icon in waiting
    Paraag Marathe as The Genius hiding behind The Curtain
    Trent Baalke as the empty title-wearing GM
    Tom Gamble as the empty title-wearing GMs shadow

  67. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Plenty of room up here on the old soapbox NJ my friend, come on up! Hey we gotta get you in shape for your visit to the Canton HOF next month. Give my luv to Jed willya?

  68. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m hoping to get a pic Phil.
    My arm, with the new tat, around his neck would look great on the Man Cave wall 😀

    Flip’n Weenie.
    By Rule of 49er common sense, he shouldn’t be allowed to share the limelight with Eddie in Canton.

    This douche is an insult to what Eddie did by comparison.
    This little runt just attempts to bask in Eddie’s legacy, while steering the franchise into the abyss.

    Embarrassing, and humiliating, if you ask me.
    Perhaps it’s just the fact that his Daddy is directing things but, if you’re the face of the Franchise, stand up to Daddy and get things done as Eddie would have.
    There was NEVER a day during Eddie’s tenure where anyone felt under appreciated or unwelcome.
    This trip to Canton will likely close the chapter of what I consider the best years in the NFL under Eddie.
    Now we can look forward to protests and angry mobs attempting overthrow the Yorks.

    What a turn of events…

  69. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This will be be on my shopping list while we’re there too Phil –
    http://tinyurl.com/gtync8q

  70. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe we need to get your Prez Rody to take Jed for a drive in the Country?
    He can do us all a favor and return alone too.

  71. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Sweet love the shirt. I want one!

    Yeah Rody D…it is a different world over here. For one, the press backed off after ONE (1) slap from the Boss. Think that will happen over there? Not for a Pub anyways. Sorry I think we are stuck with Junior as much as I applaud your sentiments!

    Enjoy your trip to the HOF you lucky bum. I’m jealous damn it.

  72. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Last I heard 1st round pick Josh Garnett has not been signed.
    He needs to be in camp at the start. Niner FO needs to get it done.
    Not sure what the reason is for the delay but Garnett is key for the OL improvement.

  73. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I read its about the guaranteed money upfront. Not supposed to affect his availability in TC tho I also read

  74. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Good old Agents and bargaining power with Garnett.
    The League finally got the Rookie Cap set yet, there’s still the loophole of offset language to contend with.

    What a racket.

    Phil, you can order anything from the Pro Football HOF online and have it shipped 😀

    With Eddie on the list of former 9er HOF’ers, it kinda puts an exclamation point on the final chapter of success IMO.

    Jed and The Meddlers won’t likely come close to reproducing anything close to what Eddie’s era did at the rate they’re going.

    Sad…

  75. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners have an empty roster spot as Kaleb Ramsay has just retired.
    Ramsay was a 7th round pick in 2014 who was drafted injured and never saw the field after spending his rookie year on injured reserve and last season on the practice squad.
    Another Baalke failed “reach” who never saw the field due to his previous injury.

  76. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Gotta love those Team ACL dudes. Real helpful.

    Roster spot for AD?

  77. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Joshua Garnett signed his contract last night.

    The 49ers announced Friday that they’ve added defensive lineman D.J McBryde to their training camp roster.

  78. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Raiduhs are considered legit contenders for the coming season.

    In contrast the Niners can’t even be considered pretenders due to the lack of talent in the roster.

    Stocking the roster is the job of the GM and Baalke has shirked his responsibilities and let the talent on the roster disintegrate into expansion team level.

    The leadership and heart of the team retired or were allowed to walk. They were the soul of the team. Still disappointed that Baalke just allowed Gore, Crabtree, Boone, Culliver and Cox to leave without lifting a finger.
    Drafting a QB every 5 years has lead to the situation the Niners are in today.

  79. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Looking forward to seeing how Devon Cajuste does. He’s a TE sized WR who is similar to Delanie Walker.

    Last year Walker really blossomed for the Titans catching 90 balls for over 1000 yds becoming rookie Mariota’s safety blanket.

    Cajuste could surprise as a “jojer” TE.

  80. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Huge blow for the 49ers to place NT Ian Williams on reserve/NFI due to his offseason ankle injury/surgery. He is out for the season.”

  81. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    jojer should be joker TE

  82. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Ian Williams on NFI/Out list will force Quinton Dial to NT w/ Mike Purcell as back up. Glenn Dorsey still out with ACL too. Not good, IW our best run defender (with Aaron Lynch #2). Our two Ducks DE Armstead and Buckner may be playing DE together very soon as we are significantly weaker against the run.

    Teams will be running at our D a lot until we show something.

  83. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    My expectorations just got lower but still an optimistic 4-12.

    Reminds of the time a camp counselor said to us male students on our messy bathroom etiquette: “The aim of this institution is rather low”

    I digress

  84. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    MMQB take on the Niners’ upcoming season.

    The writer is not a fan of Kap’s ability to lead the team especially in reading defenses.

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/07/29/nfl-san-francisco-49ers-2016-preview-scouting-report-carlos-hyde

  85. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    FO is judged on wins and losses. Sometime this season TB will get the ax.

  86. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Sez here the consensus is ‘less than six wins Balkey is gone’. ‘Extended losing streak he’s gone’. ‘No vast improvement in young players…’

    http://www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/1572-round-table-many-games-49ers-need-baalke-keep/

    Team ACL and other Balkey picks also need to show big improvement this year…or else. VMac, Patton, Ellington, Harold, Carradine, OL, DL, DBs can these players who are all Balkey picks be a solid foundation for the Niners. Yes and the QBs too = show improvement, a competitive ability to build on. Balkey must be praying for Gabbert to shine and for Jimi’s Kaepernick to bomb. Whatever, my job (what job?) is not riding on how we do, how we develop this tough year but Balkeys likely is. Calling for 4 wins must mean I think he’s gone if that happens. Guess so. Still I’d love to be proven Wrong

  87. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil I’ll be happy just to see Baalke/Chip/Gamble communicate and find common ground.
    Which means, NO interference from the Meddlers.
    This should have worked with Harbaugh/Baalke.
    As we know, it didn’t come close.

    Pick your guilty Minion, I’ll go with Paraag.
    Whether Baalke becomes the scapegoat or not, the GM and HC need support from Ownership, not micro-managing.

  88. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep exactly NJ. Failing that it won’t matter much what our record is, we will not improve going forward. FO chemistry is a prerequisite for a winning team. We just haven’t had that forever. Maybe the current alignment will be that essential chemistry going forward. Maybe not, we’ll see. If not then assuming the goal is winning, butts in the seats, happy team, fans, coaches, new alignments will be required. Agree football guys should guide this process not suits.

    Another stinky season will put pressure on the GM position tho, esp. if the recent draftees do not perform. Marathe was outed by Steve Berman as the likely rat and looks like Balkey is the next man up in the blame game. Esp his contract is almost up I believe and Kelly signed for $20 Mil. I focus on this because I just think we need that stability and intelligence in the FO before we can expect much on the field. The Team starts in the FO IMO

  89. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    One of my favorite local sports writers has his usual interesting article, this one speculating “Whut goes on in Balkey World” = Steve Berman.

    http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/thanks-a-lot-jed/

    Like bakkentom he gives TB 6 months or less. Depending on 49er performance. Like the QB contest I don’t care. I just want the best possible man in the job

  90. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Baalky must have some relatives on this blog.

  91. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Nope.
    Not me Winder.
    I simply support the ‘Football Guy’ vs The Meddling Minions, who appear to have neutered him over the last several years.

    Read a piece today that Maiocco put out, regarding Gamble’s promotion.
    Seems Trent planned on doing this prior to his departure to Philly.
    Gotta wonder if Paraag’s arrival coincided with Gambles’ desire to flee?

    What a circus…

  92. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Too many questions surrounding Paraag’s duties for me.
    I believe he was VERY instrumental in all the Harbaugh/Kaep ruckus too.
    Dr Daddy’s little henchman IMO.

  93. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He probably had the balls Daddy wished Jed had perhaps?
    Quasi-GM/Owner-by-proxy position would be my guess.

  94. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Niner problems start in the FO + owners and trickle down through teachers pet, unqualified coaches, to poor drafting and poor player development to losses on the field. Summary firing of 49 Wins gutted the coaching and the players. Kaepernick or any other player DID NOT cause the Niner implosion since the SB. Caused by FO + owners. Period.

    This is why I support the current HC Kelly = hoping he is supported by mgmt. to do his job w/o Minion Interference as was the case with 49 Wins. So far the players appear to be rallying to Kellys program and we can only hope FO leaves him and coaching staff ALONE. What could be worse than FO + owners undermining the HC? Guaranteed fail. All I ask from Balkey is that he support the HC in every way possible.

  95. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil that’s about as simple as it needs to get.
    HC/GM should be on the same page if anything is going to succeed in this game.
    Been my POV going back to Baalke bringing Harbaugh onboard.
    How that got derailed HAD to be an indictment of The Minions.
    Jed didn’t bring Harbaugh here, nor did Paraag.
    These micro-managing midgets did nothing but subvert the process.
    Hoping too, that Chip can provide the Offensive smarts for Baalke.
    Maybe these guys will balance each other out?

  96. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Smart people evolve and adapt. Follow Kelly’s O from each year in Philly and compare to this season. Compare O strategies between the teams. Depends a lot on the QB.

    Start with NN Kelly resource page.

  97. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    This week, Palmer echoed Stanton’s thoughts about Arians’s ability to bring other voices to life.

    “Obviously, being around him for three years and just hearing his input on certain plays and certain coverages,” Palmer says. “A scheme comes up and we’re working on a scheme and he might change his mind, and he’ll give you a reason why. He doesn’t just change a certain route within a scheme or put something new in, there’s always a reason behind it. So he’s always giving you insight. He’s brilliant offensively. He’s as bright an offensive mind as I’ve been around. So just having a chance to be around that type of guy just enlightens you on tons of things that you don’t know about. Being in year 13, there’s a lot I don’t know. I still am always trying to learn, and being around a guy like him just accelerates the process. I’ve just learned a ton about football. A ton about offense, and a ton about protections, and coverages, and really just everything through him.”

    Of course, that’s nothing without players who can implement the concepts, and the Cardinals are certainly doing that this year. The most impressive part of Arians’s passing game is the diverse ways in which he sets up the vertical attack.

  98. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Is Kaepernick a low IQ QB from flyover country (Turlock/Reno) who has no future in the NFL? Can he improve to be more effective in the Kelly system? What exactly are Kaps strengths and weaknesses? Article here breaks it down as applied to Chips O = Kap in Zone Read plays, Run/Pass Option plays, Drop Back Passing, Play Action Passing:

    http://www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/1574-how-does-kaepernick-really-fit-chip-kellys-offense/

    Summary = He fits Kellys system while having weakness he must overcome but do not be surprised if CK “looks comfortable and dangerous in Chip Kelly’s offensive attack”.

  99. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil it’s always been a mental thing with Kaep.
    He’s got to slow the game down mentally if he expects to be successful.
    He’s too anxious.
    Has always been a runner, which is his natural reaction.
    Teams like Seattle hemmed him in or, flushed him to one side, which basically wrote the script on how to defeat him.
    If he slows it down, finds the short game touch, there’s no reason why he can’t succeed.
    Kelly should simplify things but, will make more options available at a quicker pace.
    If Kaep can roll within the parameters he can do it.
    I just think Gabbert is more apt to stand tall, whereas Kaep fells compelled to bolt.

  100. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    fells=feels.
    My bad

  101. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I like the idea of having closed practices this year, and if we don’t show em much during the pre-season games no one will know just how good/bad we really are. That should be good for one or two wins. The way I look at it is I’m already disgusted so that won’t be anything new. Personally I’m hoping for pleasantly surprised. Sad to hear about williams, pretty sure we’re not stacked with talent so we can’t take to many more of those.

  102. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Look at the upside Winder, we’re expected to suck.
    No pressure.

  103. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    The big loss is Ian with the run D. So the uptempo advantage on O gets negated by our D. Cannot stop dominant run attack time consuming drives.

    The O has AD back. Give him all season to get in his old form again. Experiment with the O. Other OC’s can be copycat Ted and tailored to our, cough, skill players. A challenge since our caliber of WR is ???

    No pressure. Let it all hang out. New GM next year. Unless a new NT can step up and fill the void. Can Dial 2 gap like IW or is higher center of gravity like Red Bryant. Can we do a 1 gap approach like Wade Phillips did with Dallas?

  104. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NJ the writer (and I) of the article aboves agree with your comment “He has always been a runner, which is his natural reaction. Teams like Seattle hemmed him in or, flushed him to one side, which basically wrote the script on how to defeat him.”

    From the article by Aaron Erickson = “… I chose to list the zone read as a separate category in which the only two outcomes are that the quarterback runs the ball or another teammate runs the ball. In these instances, Kaepernick has done well…His self-confidence has occasionally betrayed him in zone reads, as he has occasionally kept the ball on high-stakes plays when the read should indicate that he should hand off, betting on himself rather than the play design…I think his muscle memory from Nevada encouraged him to keep the ball and make a play because he had done so successfully many times through his years in college”

    Ditto with your comment = “I just think Gabbert is more apt to stand tall, whereas Kaep feels compelled to bolt”

    Erickson sez regarding run/pass option plays = “Once the play begins, the quarterback must decide whether to give the ball to the running back or keep it, based upon the reactions of one specific, predetermined defender…I don’t believe this type of play should strain Kaepernick too greatly. While he has struggled to identify the best matchup and to deliver a ball on time, he is not being asked to identify the open receiver amongst several options; he is being asked to decide whether one receiver is open enough to make a reception. If that one receiver is open, Kaepernick throws the ball. If not, he keeps the ball and gains what yards he can on foot”

    But generally Gabbert IS the better drop back passer due to his quicker recognition of which receiver is open, failing which Kap runs. Erickson also says, in effect, Seattle’s strategy of forcing Kap to roll out away from pressure is effective due to our poor OL play of last couple years.

    ADs return, Kilgore healthy plus Beadles and Garnett on the OL should make play action passing a strong factor for Kap and for us again.

  105. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Tom we are going to have to score and score again if the D struggles to stop the run. The good news is that the O in Chips scheme is high scoring. Yes, the question is will our RB Hyde hold up all season and as you say ‘what do we have for WRs?’

    At this point even before Ian Ws NFI designation I have more faith in Chips O than in the D.

  106. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It’s all about quick decision making, taking what the defense gives you.
    With Kap he looks for the big play too often rather than go to an open receiver that’ll yield 5-8 yards.
    In any offense it is better to be 2nd and 4 rather 2nd and 10 or 2nd and 14 if you take a sack looking for the 20 yard gain.

  107. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    We’ll see how it plays out Bullit. Going ‘off script’ is not going to make Kelly happy if that is what Kap insists on doing. Kelly has definite, precise schemes he wants the O to follow. Ad libing to grab the big passing play or holding the ball for a run rather than handing it off to the RB when it is called for will definitely get some personal coaching from Chip. We saw this in camp today after the int. Kelly called him over to discuss where the ball should have gone. I have a feeling Kap will be getting a lot of it as he works to learn a new O. Frankly his coaching since UN Reno has been spotty. For me the hope for Kap is he will master this Oas his ceiling is higher than Gabberts.

  108. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke says he’s going to use the $49.5 mil in salary cap as follows

    “Among the players who could be in line for extensions in the next year are Eric Reid, Jimmie Ward and Carlos Hyde. The performances this season of such players as Vance McDonald, Tank Carradine, Quinton Patton, Bruce Ellington, Aaron Lynch, Kenneth Acker, Dontae Johnson and Keith Reaser could also put them in line for new contracts.”

    Why would you throw large contracts at the last 3 players
    Kenneth Acker, Dontae Johnson and Keith Reaser who have so far been just marginal players who can’t even nail down starting positions on a team devoid of talent.

    Trent really thinks a lot of his draft picks which might add to his downfall

  109. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Sounds like he’s just blowing smoke out his a$$ to me. Sooner or later Baalky will have to own al his draft and player decisions.

  110. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Balkey is getting the message from the three headed attack of Gamble, Kelly and Phil =

    “Both Colin and Blaine, we’re going to roll out the ball and give them equal opportunity,” Baalke said. “That’s really up to the coaches, when they get reps, how they share reps. I don’t have anything to do with that nor do I want anything to do with that.

    “Coach Kelly and his staff will determine who plays, who doesn’t.”

    Got that right Trent. 3 against one, that’s hard to beat.

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2016/07/31/24199/?source=rss

  111. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Well, this is embarrassing. NoFear finally responded to my email last night, so reports of his death are obviously and fortunately premature.

  112. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Excellent news Skeebs.
    NoFear49er it’s a pleasure to know that premature reports of your demise were made in error.
    Hope ALL is well 😀

  113. Phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    That IS good news Skeebs. Nice to hear. Come on down NF!

    Well NJ here is something to curdle your (and my) blood=

    “Billy Davis says Trent Baalke, Jed York denied Chip Kelly chance to hire him”

    SO FO messing with the HC choices? So if our D sucks this year we can blame York and Balkey? UGH. Maybe it’s not true but nothing would surprise me at this point. Addiction to CONTROL is tough to break.

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/8/1/12342086/billy-davis-says-trent-baalke-jed-york-denied-chip-kelly-chance-to-hire-him

  114. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2018 Schedule
9-9: @ Vikings, 10:00 am Sun.
9-16: vs. Lions, 1:25 pm, Sun.
9-23: @ Chiefs, 10:00 am, Sun.
9-30: @ Chargers, 1:25 pm, Sun.
10-7: vs. Cardinals, 1:25 pm, Sun.
10-15: @ Packers, 5:15 pm, Mon.
10-21: vs. Rams, 5:20 pm, Sun.
10-28: @ Cardinals, 1:25 pm, Sun.
11-1: vs. Raiders, 5:20 pm, Thur.
11-12: vs. Giants, 5:15 pm, Mon.
BYE
11-25: @ Tampa, 10:00 am, Sun.
12-2: @ Seattle, 5:20 pm, Sun.
12-9: vs. Broncos, 1:25 pm, Sun.
12-16: vs. Seattle, 1:25 pm, Sun.
12-23: vs. Bears, 1:05 pm, Sun.
12-30: @ Rams, 1:25 pm, Sun.
 
2018 Draft Class
1. OT Mike McGlinchey
2. WR Dante Pettis
3. LB Fred Warner
3. DB Tarvarius Moore
4. DE Kentavius Street
5. CB D.J. Reed
6. S Marcell Harris
7. DT Jullian Taylor
7. WR Richie James
 
2017 Prognostications
NJ49er: 6-10
Skeebers: 6-10
Bullit: 5-11
Mr Fletch: 5-11
RTFirefly: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Rob: 9-7
Winder: 4-12

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