Back to Work Week

After an intense week of delusional therapy, the 49ers resume their fall from grace this week by traveling to Seattle to be squashed like a bug before returning home to be thoroughly thrashed by the Arizona Cardinals.

At that point, the Niners record will be 3-8. Anybody who thinks they can then partially redeem the season by running the table for the last five games will be mailed a lifetime membership to Unca_Chuck’s blog, where reality is always a dollar short, a year late, and never more than a fleeting, accidental tourist.

It’s probably late enough in this desultory season to speculate on what sort of record it would take to get Jim Tomsula and his staff fired. Does he keep his job with five wins? Six? It’s not a question of whether he deserves to be fired — he should never have been hired in the first place. No, it’s purely a question of how much embarrassment to Jed York‘s ego would it take for York to essentially admit he screwed up.

Tomsula needs three more victories to hit six for the year. York could then point to a second half record of 4-4 as reason for optimism and reason to keep Tomsula. This would be complete horseshit, but I’m sure York would try foisting it off anyway.

It’s a dangerous game to play, though. A lot of fans bought into York’s hogwash from the end of last season, but how many of those would buy in again after this year’s fiasco? I mean, there’s got to be some blood on the highway after this season. Right? Who’s going to provide that necessity?

The Rams are 3-0 in the division, but 1-5 everywhere else. Not this year boys, sorry. The Seahawks pretty much need to go 6-1 to have a shot at the playoffs this year. And that depends on how far the Falcons fall or the two NFC North teams, the Packers and Vikings. Everyone else in the conference is just playing out the string or hoping, like the Seahawks, to run the table over the final seven games.

The refs screwed up the Ravens/Jaguars game and the NFL acknowledged the error. It should be a simple and fair matter, since it occurred on what should have been the last play of the game, to reverse the score and give the Ravens their victory. That can’t be done for only one reason: the gambling industry has already paid off the “winners.” So, while players in all pro sports are strictly monitored for ties to the gambling industry, the league itself is completely in bed with them. The gambling industry decides when a game is over. Period. And it doesn’t matter if the erroneous victory or loss affects the playoffs or a team’s entire season. Perhaps winnings should simply be delayed for one day to give the league the chance to do the right thing. Not that they would, but that they could.




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  1. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    I have to think we definitely lose to SEA, ARI, CHI, and CINN. Gase and Cutler have the Bears O in synch and have lots of targets for him.

    QB flux with CLE and STL. If DET gets out of their funk on O we have a chance at 3-13, worst case 6-10.

    Unless Marcus Martin and Brandon Thomas get their sheet together we must draft IOL and WR1. Am assuming AD is active next year.

  2. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    If STL can get high enough in the draft and can get Connor Cook, Foles could be available. They are a QB away and they choose to go with a draftee, would seriously consider Foles over Gabbert as starter.

  3. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    You’ll never hear York admit he was wrong. People like him refuse to see they were wrong. They think everyone else screwed up making them appear to be wrong.

    Have you seen anyone from the barnyard sheep herd saying they were wrong? Same concept at work there.

    Last year everyone knew we had key injuries and a back-stabbing campaign to deal with and yet, there was hope, even expectations, to go to the playoffs, even among the dimmest sheep who were bleating “Super Bowl win or nothing!” there was disappointment and shock when we didn’t.

    This year there is no talk of that sort of team, or coach, or winning. Just the mess that was once the 49ers. But York won’t cop to it, nor will Baalke. That’s what the rat was promoted for. Looking all befuddled and confused on the sidelines and on camera hopelessly repeating, “it starts with me.” The ideal dupe and example of York’s leadership.

    Or maybe York is just that football stupid and dirty dealing smart. Either way he won’t admit to fault, and after all, isn’t he just his Moms dupe?

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bottom line for me is Kap playing like a $14 mil QB?
    You could tolerate the mistakes at $2 mil a year but now he has the pressure to live up to his salary.
    His supporters haven’t revealed how Kap is going to improve.
    Their solution is to give him a solid Oline but somehow he is unable to counter defensive schemes used to thwart him.
    If Kap is not going to improve his game then he doesn’t deserve the big paycheck.
    The Niners and Baalke basically trade Iupati’s salary for Torrey Smith. Kap hit Torrey Smith for deep TDs in two games out
    of eight which basically leads one to believe they wasted a big contract On Torrey Smith. Past the halfway point Smith has been a dud as has Jerome Simpson in 2 games.

    With Kap’s new deal more is expected of him and he has delivered less. If Kap doesn’t have an epiphany and realize that mechanics and footwork as well as watching film are the keys to improving then it’ll be a lost cause.

  5. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    And you’ll never hear NoFear admit he was wrong… or me for that matter.

    http://www.theonion.com/article/alarming-mri-shows-peyton-manning-has-been-dead-fo-34555

  6. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m all in for bringing My Man Nate Davis in for a tryout next year. He’s still in Amarillo playing pro QB.

  7. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    ABAS

  8. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners lost a WR off their practice squad.
    Titans have signed wide receiver Andrew Turzilli to their 53-man roster taking him from the Niners.

    99.9% of those who read this blog didn’t know Turzilli was on the PS.

  9. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Aldon Smith just went around saying good-bye to a lot of teammates. No word yet, but suspension may have come down.”

  10. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “NFL is suspending Raiders’ LB Aldon Smith one year for his role in an Aug. 28 incident, per league source.”

  11. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Poor Aldon. Suspension is not what he needs. But the powers that be are so much smarter than I.

  12. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    What are the better odds: we see him next on a football field or a police blotter?

  13. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Aldon was doing okay until Kaep screwed his girl. Not a big fan of Kaep for doing that. Your question, though, depends entirely on who Aldon hangs out with over the next year. My guess is he stays out of trouble.

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Did you know Brian Folkerts Center was on the 49ers Practice Squad?
    The key word is WAS as the Rams just signed him and he’s now on their roster.

    Also in typical Petey style, Seahags are working out Kendall Hunter. Wouldn’t it be ironic to play against him Sunday because the FO screwed up on a deadline date on filing his paperwork?

  15. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Niners 16 Seahawks 13 – Gabbert Rocks

  16. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Darby Mills on Aldon’s drinking problem:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jjC50QRAXfl

  17. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Darby Mills on Aldon’s drinking problem:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jjC50QRAXf1

  18. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit check out this DE from PSU –
    Anthony Zettel – 6’4″/278
    They move him inside and out at only 278lbs.

    Seems he’s versatile enough for odd/even fronts and his motor is always revving.
    Looks like a RD3-4 grade at the moment too.

    He and DT Austin Johnson – 6’3″/325 are a pretty formidable duo inside.

    I’m always up for a Fat Man in the Middle 😀

  19. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Do you know who the leading tackler in the Pac 12 is?

    It’s Nick Martinez senior ILB from Stanford.

    He’s projected as a 5th rd pick. Just another guy who has a nose for the ball.

  20. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Looking like a pretty solid Defensive Class this year.
    Depending on how they treat the QB position, we could steal some decent talent in the Top 1/3 of this years group.

    If we were Drafting top 10 and didn’t covet a QB in RD1, I’d still be shopping for the trenches there, either side of the ball.

    Haven’t seen Martinez but, I’ll keep him on the radar.

  21. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Not sure if I mentioned the LT from No Dakota St yet?
    He’s blocking for Wentz

    Joe Haeg – 6’6″/310
    Carrying a RD3 grade, which could open the slots ahead of him for other needs.
    Appears he’s flying under the radar thus far in a smaller program.
    Light on his feet and good technique.

    Has played both LT and RT too.

  22. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    09/16/2015 – SEPT 14 MISSOURI VALLEY OFFENSIVE LINEMAN OF THE WEEK: LT Joe Haeg, North Dakota State, 6-6, 310, Sr., Lake Shore (Minn.) Brainerd…
    Haeg played 77 of 81 snaps and led the Bison with 12 total knockdowns with nine pancakes and two decleaters. He had NDSU’s highest grade with a 99 percent on assignment and 92 percent on technique. Haeg was responsible for zero sacks or quarterback hurries for the second week in a row.
    NDSU rolled up 316 rushing yards between nine different ball carriers and passed for 281 yards. – Missouri Valley Football

  23. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Not to mention he was a walk on
    Have to keep an eye open for him.

  24. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Hey skeebs- i consider myself a member of unca chucks blog and I know what reality is…most of the time. I don’t think we’re gonna run anything this year but I would love to see us win a couple/few more games.

  25. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    LT Jason Spriggs from Indiana is another guy flying under the radar.

    6’6″/305

    “A former tight end who made the move to offensive line in high school, Spriggs earned a starting job shortly after he arrived in Bloomington and has been a model of consistency at left tackle for the Hoosiers. In 10 starts in 2014, he allowed just two sacks and was a consistent force in the run game, helping Tevin Coleman rush for over 2,000 yards.”

  26. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    rtfirefly: Niners 16 Seahawks 13 – Gabbert Rocks

    Phil: 20-17 Niners. Cannot call for a Niner loss in SEAhag town but really what are the chances we pull this out? Gabbert shines, I’ll shine his shoes.

    In other news do you realize last week was the first time in the recorded history of Pigskin Prognostication that NOBODY WON? Niners did and screwed everything up.

  27. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Phil
    This game is coming out with a 12.5pt spread. Ouch.

    I’ll be happy to see us score a TD or 2, given the recent history between us and the ‘hawks.

    17-14 9ers

  28. winderNo Gravatar says:

    We will need a pass rush to even think about beating the seawads, I don’t see it. 20-6 wads.

  29. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    No more Ahmad Brooks in the nickel. DE rotation of Eli Harold and Tank with Lynch on the other side. See how this fares against the worst oline in NFL. 24-16 Seattle.

  30. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Betters out there, spread on this game is too wide.

  31. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I love how NJ still thinks the 49ers are going to beat the Seahawks. The guy lives in a dream world.

  32. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Peter King has an interesting article at mmqb.si.Com on a QB and his game plan, 5 days to,absorb 171 plays. Part 1 is pre-game and for Nov 1 ARI vs CLE.

    Bruce Arians probably has the most complicated game plans. Not just plays, but the expected pressures and how to deal with it. They even have the scout team reacting how they expect the Browns D will play each play. Palmer puts on a virtual reality headset and see what the scout D did.

    Contrast this approach to the dumbed down playbook and simplified routes that CK could handle. No wonder we lost big to them, and will do so in 2 weeks as well.

  33. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Last season one of the criticisms of Greg Roman as the OC was
    other teams were playing chess and the Niners were playing checkers.

    Turns out that criticism is unwarranted as Chryst has spilled the beans that Kap wasn’t understanding the playbook so Chryst admitted it’s been simplified.

    I always wondered why after a the Niners go 3 and out why you just see Kap on the sideline with hands on hips looking mad. Other QBs are with their QB coach looking at their tablets or at pictures and discussing why it didn’t work.

    If Kap doesn’t change I want no part of him at QB for the Niners because of his salary and his continued lack of development as a pro passing QB.

  34. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    If Harbaugh selected him in the draft he had to sink or swim with him. If Bruce Arians came to the team with CK as QB, I wonder how long he gave an ultimatum to the GM: it’s him or me.

  35. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Per game Arians wants to take 6 home runs, or long shots. Wonder how big his playbook is. Typically he select 150 plays that OC and him think would work best against the D and their tendencies.

    So in offseason, OTA’s, and preseason the QB needs to understand in detail per play all routes run and progressions and personnel and formations and suitable audibles based on expected D and shown blitzes.

    Carson Palmer is like a coach out there and knows where the players line up and RB & FB blocking and WR/TE routes. Arians would not accept a QB like CK.

    Wonder how he would react if his high draft pick turned out to be like CK. Have to believe he would draft only pocket passers in pro type O’s in college. Does he still have Logan Thomas on his roster?

  36. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Hyde didn’t practice today and most likely will be given another week to get well.

  37. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit my Chess vs Checkers analogy simply suggested that we were playing checkers.
    If that was a result of the QB, or not, it still spells out the obvious.
    We are now hearing how it got even simpler this year, under the new Staff.

    One common denominator is still involved.
    The guy running the Offense on every play call.

    Whether ATL has a good Defense or not, Gabbert hit Celek in the End Zone. Twice.

    Let’s see what happens in Seattle on Sunday.
    Kaep managed next to nothing with his efforts to date.

  38. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Cards got Carson from Raiders for what, maybe a 6th and 7th?? Arians was with the Colts when they picked Luck.

    Raiders fortunate to recover with Derek Carr, a football QB bloodline. Brother had to help him be a pocket passer early. Nice when you get QB 101 in high school.

  39. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Ok I have the scores for the SEAtards. Let’s see who is closest this week.

    Here’s an article about Marathe Paraag who I’ve often wondered about. Read it and weep = using computer stats to evaluate players…and throwing out Bill Walsh and John McVay. Our next GM? Retch!

    http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/49ers-demise-not-just-the-fault-of-jed-trent-jimmy-tom-and-kap/

  40. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah phil- I think we could really use a football guy running that part of the operation. Paraag’s model has Mediocre written all over it.

  41. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Part 2 of the Peter King article is available. Bruce Arians is a master playcaller. Made intra-game adjustments due to a swirling wind and a tightening hamstring Joe Haden CB was experiencing.

    Need a QB that can read a D. Able to make post-snap reads to determine which receiver got single coverage.

    Feedback between QB and play caller is critical for inter-game adjustments. We complained a lot about losing games due to not keeping pace with adjustments by the other team. So who was at fault.

  42. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    PFT has been ripping ESPN’s much touted “QBR” measurements, which supposedly obsoleted the standard QBR in use for years. Pretty funny. Here’s the latest effort:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/19/charlie-batchs-186-yard-two-pick-game-has-espns-best-qbr-ever/

  43. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    SoCaliSteph at NN article at bottom has good stuff on BG. Worth a read. When Jags bad oline in 2012 gave him 2.6 secs or more his QBR was 84.6.

    Let him play out season. What is he really capable of.

  44. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    If the decision has already been made to dump Kaepernick then there is no other choice but to let Gabbert start for the remainder of the year. If Kaepernick is still under consideration, then I’d bring him back after the ARI game to see if/how he benefitted from the break and if he’s worth the effort to continue as the starting QB for the Niners.

    As for computerized analytics, in basic terms, computers can only add 0+0, 0+1 or 1+1, albeit very very quickly, all the rest is programming. Programming is humans. Those humans are no more immune to mistakes and ill-conceived notions then are the humans doing their analyses from other methods, like experience and knowledge.

  45. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Jed is so brave. He’ll discuss the state of the 3-6 team after the season. He was so brave last year, too, almost to the date, when his “Unacceptable” remarks concerned a 7-5 team still much in playoff contention.

    What’s poor Jed to do now that he doesn’t have Harbaugh to kick around anymore?

  46. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    “Hold me accountable” depends on what the meaning of “me” is – which in Jed’s world means “someone/anyone else”.

  47. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Tex Schramm and Gil Brandt, working with Tom Landry, were the guys who brought computerized statistical models to drafting. It made the Cowboys a dynasty in the ’70s.

    Look at who was doing it, though – Tex Schramm, Gil Brandt and Tom Landry. Juuuust a bit of a difference. I can give Jed all the computer tools he needs to produce a car, but I can’t stop him from building a Yugo.

  48. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    In the “people say the damndest things” category:

    Blaine Gabbert: “I enjoy playing on the road. It’s kind of a sweeter victory when you win on the road.” Gabbert road record as starter: 2-11.

  49. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, that’s my point. Some folks think because it comes out of a computerized system it’s infallible. Garbage in, garbage out was never more accurate. Events drive statistics. Statistics don’t drive events. Statistics can only inform to the extent of the understanding a person has in its make up.

    And you’ve touched on a pet peeve of mine. Yeah I mean another one.
    In some cultures the term “I’m accountable” means you fall on your sword and end your life. In others it can result in suffering a public humiliation dissolving your credibility or real penalty of some sort. In American culture these days it is virtually meaningless. An expression always issued with puffed out chest as if some supreme sacrifice will be the price paid for failure, but nowadays it’s a joke on the poor saps that listen to it without stoning the fool who said it and insulted your intelligence by doing so.

    “I take full responsibility” = I don’t do shit right, I won’t do shit right, and you’ll vote for me again because you’re an idiot and we both know it.

  50. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Jed’s a filthy rich kid who will always be filthy rich. He’s accountable to no one but Denise. He’s just a small tool in the box of the 1% who trickle down on us.

  51. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Whoever came up with Jacksonville’s color scheme should be shot at sunrise.

  52. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Walker is certainly a lot more involved in the Titans’ O than he was here. I always thought he dropped too many in critical plays but he seems to have fixed that problem for the most part.

    Interesting too, to see what LeBeau’s doing with this D.

  53. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    PFF has him ranked the #2 TE in the league, for what that’s worth.

  54. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I think Walker was the first guy we wouldn’t pay the money, so he left. If we’d kept him, we could have skipped the parade of VMcD, Celek, Carrier, Bell, etc.

  55. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Well, I think you’re right. I was glad when we let him go but it looks now like it was a big mistake. A pair of good TEs to target might have saved this offense.

  56. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I used to hate Walker on the Niners because he dropped everything. Seems like he’s fixed that. Good for him. Another testimony to the abilities of Scot McCloughan…. who, uh, Jed also fired.

  57. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    If McCloughan had a drinking problem (and he did), why didn’t they just send him to rehab like they tried with Aldon?

  58. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Delanie Walker 45 catches 508 yards leads the Titans
    Torrey Smith 18 catches 386 yards leads the Niners

    Are you frigging kidding me. Kap is crap. Why did not all niner receivers walk out and picket outside Jed’s office, file a union grievance. What a waste of skill players.

    With that I cannot believe we aren’t a lock for the #1 pick.

  59. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Now you got me started on the drinking thing again. These youtube identifiers may be issued on use. The Headpins “Don’t it make you feel” have a nice video:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XRPTpHFaV9U

    Darby Mills has a great set of pipes and wheels.

  60. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I recall last year when I saw Kap throwing low balls into the ground and getting lectured by Chuckles that all NFL QBs did that.
    I took a lot of grief for noticing how inaccurate Kap was. I was also ridiculed for making the statement that his fastballs weren’t working and was laughed at by Chuckles who cited that Elway threw fastballs. Elway did not start winning in the playoffs until he started taking something off the fastballs.

  61. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    The B&B twins never-ending anti-Kaepernick rant.

    Even Chuck doesn’t beat a dead horse more than you do. Everything Kaepernick does wrong, you saw coming and you called it. Every time Kaep screws up it’s a credit to your desire to keep the game manager checking down forever hoping he had more QB potential, but he didn’t. And yet you didn’t see that coming for what, eight years? Still?

    It’s not a matter of QB/player evaluation, it’s a matter of you resenting Kaepernick for replacing Alex Smith. That’s it. And then repeating and posting everything ever written on the internet bashing Kaepernick as if it’s a plus for you even though it’s bad for the team.

    Some fan. What happened to rooting for anyone who’s a 49er?

  62. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Another one bites the dust – now sitting at #7.

    Excuse me while I wash my eyes out with soap after watching those Jags’ uniforms.

  63. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NF

    I do not resent Kap for replacing Smith. I’ve moved on from that but you still display your dislike of Smith.
    Maybe you’ll deny this but Kap isn’t exactly an inspirational leader and most QBs are leaders.

    Apparently you are willing to overlook Kap’s many flaws. At a top salary I’m not.

  64. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Leader of men? A QB has to either know or have the potential to know how to run a pocket passing NFL offense. Kap has had 4 full years as the starter and he fails on both counts.

    QB earns respect from his teammates. He plays like a rookie, at a franchise QB’s wage. Untradeable with uncommand. of even a simplified offense.

    No choice but to cut the dud in offseason.

  65. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Down by 23 the Warriors are now up by 7 with 25 seconds to go.
    W’s on way to 13-0.

  66. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Nice to see the Ws starting off where they left off = winning. 13-0 nice.

    BTW in that article by BASG Steve Berman he points out that Paraag instituted the looney computer grading system but also he has wormed his way into of the confidence of young York. Could it be that Marathe’s the malignant rat behind the fall of the coulda been Niner Dynasty II? It looks possible. I’ll reread the article later. Of course the non-football guy York placed his confidence in the ultra non-football guy, the Indian Marathe, a disastrous mistake.

    Probably one of many but I’m trying to find the fundamental one. York certainly has poor judgement with people…

  67. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, the BASG piece is concerning.
    Suggests that my fear of GM interferences is possibly doubled.

    Blame Baalke as you will but, I’ll take a Parcells disciple ahead of a computer model in this sport.

    I like the ref made between Dr York and Paraag about ‘stats language’.
    Mostly suggests ‘Nerd’ to me. No people skills.

    Once a weenie, always a weenie…

    SMH.

  68. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas, 1:05 p.m.
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia, 10 a.m.
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona, 1:05 p.m.
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants, 1:25 p.m.
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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