Cardinals 47, 49ers 7

As Denny Green would say, more or less: “They are who we thought they were!”

For the second straight week, the 49ers endured a complete butt whipping. Last week Pittsburgh did the honors 43-18, and this week Arizona outdid that to the tune of 47-7.

Colin Kaepernick got the festivities rolling by throwing a pick six on each of the 49ers first two possessions. After that, the 49ers called 13 straight running plays and punted three times. For the day, Kaepernick completed 9 passes for 64 yards and threw 4 interceptions. After the game, to his credit, he took 100% of the blame for the team’s loss. But, let’s face it: the entire team around him stinks, too.

It wasn’t Kaepernick who gave up 43 points last week and 47 Sunday. No, that was DC Eric Mangini‘s bailiwick. Mangini is who we thought he was — a washed up NFL coach who eagerly took the job because nobody else wanted it. Nobody wanted it because nobody wanted to work for Jed York.

The entire coaching staff is composed of guys nobody else wanted. OC Geep Chryst smugly stated after the Minnesota game that he hadn’t even had to use much of his playbook to win the game. Apparently, that playbook only consisted of a couple more pages, however. The Cardinals said it was so simple even Unca_chuck could defend against it.

You can’t really blame the coaches, though. They’re just guys happy to have a job. We all know where the real blame belongs — York and GM Trent Baalke. These two nincompoops masterminded this entire fiasco. They won’t emulate Kaepernick, though, and own the failure. Oh, no, not them. They’ll be hiding from the cameras and microphones all year long, letting the players and coaches absorb the ridicule.

With Green Bay up next on the schedule, another blow out Sunday is probably in the works. The veteran players on the team, guys used to success, all looked disgusted yesterday in Arizona. All the happy talk about team, about the new HC Jim Tomsula, has ended. And only three games into the season. It’s going to get ugly in a hurry.

Tomsula is the one coach who does deserve what he’s getting. He was an eager participant in the shenanigans of York and Baalke. Now he’s stuck taking all the flak for it. He has no business being an NFL head coach and it is becoming more and more painfully obvious with each disaster.

The current team is evoking memories, and not good ones, of the 2005 49er team. One of the worst teams in 49er history. Many on this site expected precisely what we are seeing now, but actually seeing it unfold and knowing we are firmly back in Patheticville, isn’t exactly an uplifting experience.

It beats rooting for Jed York, though. YORK MUST GO!!!




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  1. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “The five lowest-graded 49ers yesterday, according to PFF, were Kaepernick, Marcus Martin, Tramaine Brock, Jerod-Eddie and NaVorro Bowman.”

  2. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Colin Kaepernick had three passes of 10-plus yards that were outside the numbers Sunday. They were all intercepted.”

  3. robNo Gravatar says:

    Horrible day all around. I noticed that too skeebs.
    Even guys like Bowman had a bad day

  4. robNo Gravatar says:

    Never thought much of Eddie. Add Devey to the worst of the worst list.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In Pyongyang N.K. chapter, Fairyland Blog reality is slapping the residents in the face.

    Rob still thinks Kap is the man despite one of the worst games a QB has ever played for the 49er franchise. The last guy who threw 4 INTs in a game was Trent Dilfer. In a season where Kap was expected to improve freed of the shackles of Harbaugh and Roman, Kap is swirling in the toilet. Remember what happened to Matt Schaub when he was throwing pick sixes weekly for the Texans? Unless Kap turns it around he’s going to join him on the scrap heap.

    Rob also thinks this Niner secondary is better than the 2012 version that went to the Super Bowl. That statement needs no further explanation.

    In yesterday’s game the Niner offense only crossed the 50 yard line once, thanks to the Hayne punt return. That’s how inept the offense was. Total embarrassment and dumpster fire. Nobody in Pyongyang wants to blame it on the coaching or scheme or gameplan. The excuse du jour is they lost a lot of key players.
    On offense the only player that left unexpectedly was Anthony Davis. The rest left because Baalke did not want to keep them

  6. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    49ers are dead last on offense and next to last on defense.

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The lone big ticket Free Agent was Torrey Smith. He was supposed to make the safeties play deep and open everything up underneath.
    T Smith was shut out yesterday similarly to week one where Smith caught one pass for 11 yds.

    So why did the Niners sign Smith if they still don’t throw long to him at least 2 to 3 times a game?

    Last season the offense that Pyongyang N.K. chapter hated
    so much had 319 yds and 395 yds total offense. Again a myth
    that that offense was pro quality. In comparison yesterday’s offense was 1st grade recess quality playground variety.

  8. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    “Last season the offense that Pyongyang N.K. chapter hated
    so much had 319 yds and 395 yds total offense” against the Cards.

  9. robNo Gravatar says:

    Oh and the cardinals said they knew what we were going to do on offense.
    This from the guy who got both pick 6’s so I’m not sure about Pyongyang but yup add Chryst to that worst of the worst list.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Very obvious that the running game with Carlos Hyde is going “student body left” and the DCs are gameplanning to stuff that.

    Ted Robinson is on the radio saying the receivers are getting frustrated because Kap is not finding open receivers and some guys are wide open.

    Robinson said he thought Gabbert should have been inserted because he used the analogy that even the best HOF baseball pitchers get pulled.
    Tomsula didn’t have the balls to insert Gabbert because if he did well there would be a QB controversy. Tomsula’s job is not to be Kap’s buddy and show his loyalty. Tomsula should do what gives the Niners the best chance to win.

  11. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Opposing OCs are now testing Bowman’s coverage skills.
    Navarro is not as fast as he was pre injury and is getting burned. It might be another half season before he resembles his old self (hopefully).

    Also I saw Brooks trying to cover Fitzgerald and was thinking
    what the hell? How is that ever going to be to the Niner’s advantage?

  12. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    From Maiocco
    “—Cornerback Shareece Wright was inactive for the third consecutive game this season. He posted on Twitter, “Politics as usual.”He deleted his tweet a short time later. When asked about Wright’s post, coach Jim Tomsula said, “That is an incorrect statement. It had nothing to do with anything. I made the decision to put the guys up that I thought gave us the best chance of winning the football game.”

    Watch Wright get cut this week for bitching on Twitter.

  13. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The famous words of the head clown from Pyongyang N.K chapter

    Chuckles says
    “Oh well. I guess my optimism is a little premature

    Bet the Revisionistas are coming all over themselves.”

    And then with this chestnut

    “Better to let them wallow in their filth. F*ck ’em all. Pussies the lot of ’em. Bullitt takes it up the ass with the best of them. And they all gladly bend him over. Over and over.
    I’m sure Phil is waffling back to how bad they are after being annoyed and then hopeful after the first victory. Wrong side again, skipwad.”

    Notice that Chuckles is taking his insults to that of a sexual nature. Unlike Chuckles I wouldn’t know what it’s like to have something stuck up my butt. Chuckles knows because that’s where his head normally resides. It seems frustrating to him because then he can’t use his “bag of dicks”. Can’t keep his mind off
    his weird and quirky sexual references.

  14. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    No need to bring Chuck’s meltdowns over here.

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    rob

    Time to open your eyes. All the good that was done in the previous four years is now gone. Your plan is to sign free agents to replace positions of need. You will not get quality
    guys who want to win because they will go elsewhere. The free agents you will sign are the money hungry guys that you will
    have to overpay by a couple of million to come here.
    The 49ers are no longer elite title contenders but are becoming
    the laugh stock they were under John York.

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jaworski just said thid about Kap
    “Had to shred my guy Colin Kap today! He was awful in his reads, throws, footwork and mechanics! He has the toolset, but doesn’t use them!”
    ====

    Jaws predicted Kap would be a HOF QB.

  17. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Jim Harbaugh was good at a lot of things, but he was great at two things – one is talent evaluation. Harbaugh would never have had that rugby player backing up Hyde and Bush week one. But aside from evaluating his team and individual coaches and players (and as it turns out also his GM as well), Harbaugh also understood really well that the defense and offense play in concert with one another. The two feed off each other.

    For instance, if you have a blitzing defense, you can get burned for quick touchdowns so you better then have a quick strike offense. This is why teams with poor defenses generally run the ball and eat clock – playing ball possession.

    I wrote last week that with a terrible defense and poor offensive line, the only thing the 49ers should be doing is running the football, going with jumbo packages on offense while employing the ultimate bend but don’t break defense.

    If Mangini knows that his defense sucks and his defensive schemes are designed to minimize the bleeding, the offense has to play accordingly. If Mangini is only rushing 3 because his secondary players need extra support and help, Kaep should never throw the football unless it’s off play action to a read that’s either open or he just throws it away. Sound familiar? This was done last year not because Kaep isn’t good, but because Jim Harbaugh knew last year his defense wasn’t very good – especially without Willis and Bowman, and McDonald in the spotlight and Justin Smith with one foot on the golf course – a shell of his former self… and Aldon being suspended.

    With a bad defense and poor offensive line, turnovers simply can’t happen with this current 49er formula because the team isn’t good enough to overcome them. If scouts and players in the NFL know that Kaep has a tough time throwing outside the numbers, and that that’s where Kaep has a tendency to turn the ball over, wide receivers should never be running routes outside the numbers – or rarely.

    It’s an offensive and defensive formula that work together and feed off each other – and Harbaugh understand / understood this well. Harbaugh’s formula for the 49ers wasn’t necessary designed to protect his qb (although it’s important to do so). Harbaugh’s formula was designed to win, and win he did.

    Unfortunately for 49er fans, this owner, GM, and certainly this coaching staff just don’t understand how to unite offensive and defensive philosophies together to win football games. Jim Tomsula? You really think Jim Tomsula understands all of this? No way. You think Tomsula has self scouted Kaep and knows Kaep’s weaknesses and how to support his qb? As a former D line coach? No coordinator experience? Not a chance.

    If I was coaching this team, I’d do what Mangini is doing – rushing only 3 and keeping everything in front of you, forcing the offense to kill the 49er defense with a thousand paper cuts that takes time and patience on the offense’s behalf and that process can create mistakes and turnovers of their own. Then, on offense, I’d run and punt, run and punt. The only time Colin Kaepernick would be throwing would be off play action when the defense was stacking the box and the team was daring Kaep to throw…. my reads for Kaep would be simple and clean. If it’s not there, either run or throw it away. And I’d preach patience.

    That’s what I loved about Jim Harbaugh’s 2011 offense his first year. The 49ers were so patient running the football. The 49ers could be down by 2 touchdowns and they’d still be running the football. It was partly because Harbaugh didn’t have a lot of faith in Alex Smith (the evidence was Harbaugh replacing Smith with Kaep), but Harbaugh was also patient with the run because Harbaugh knew his defense was good, and his defensive coordinator was good. Remember the Eagles’ game when the 49ers came from behind to beat Vick and company with Kendal Hunter? That happened because regardless of how down the 49ers got they had the tools, the players and the coaches to come from behind as long as they were patient running the football and Alex Smith didn’t panic.

    You get Kaep witnessing a Steeler blowout the week before, where the DBs were letting Brown get five yards past them in double coverage, Kaep’s going to immediately be pressing the next week. Tomsula should have known this. Tomsula should have been preaching patience on offense. But instead, Tomsula let this team fall into yet another trap of pressing too much and that created yet another blowout. To Tomsula’s credit, he took responsibility for the loss, but Tomsula doesn’t have a clue about “WHY” he lost. That’s why Tomsula won’t last long as the 49ers’ head coach. But who in their right mind would replace Tomsula after Jed York undermined the best head coach since Walsh not a year ago?

    Trust me 49er fans, it’s gonna be a long, long decade.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I said dumpster fire about the Niner situation, maybe this is a better image

    https://twitter.com/ChrisBiderman/status/648506586344747009/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  19. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula should thank the Cardinals for passing along some tips about what’s wrong with his team.

  20. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Some Niner fans are already targeting Jarrod Goff from Cal as the preferred Niner draft pick.

    He is a better college QB than Aaron Rodgers was at Cal. Huge decision has to be made if you have the right coaches in place to develop him into a viable NFL QB?

    You might have to clean house as so far this coaching staff surprised the Vikes in week one but once the film became available every move has been countered and snuffed out.

    Yesterday’s game was 100 times worse than the Steeler game.
    Yesterday was a humiliation.

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jed asked everyone to hold him responsible, so we’re doing what he asked

    http://m.nbcsports.com/content/jed-york-hold-me-responsible-if-49ers-don%E2%80%99t-win-super-bowls

  22. robNo Gravatar says:

    BULLITT
    I’m very much aware of the challenges we face.
    IMHO we can and will recover from this nightmare off season .
    We are NOT doomed to a long stretch of years of “suckitude”

  23. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    rob

    You need to address your remarks to somebody else here. I never put a time frame on how badly the Niners will suck.
    History shows last time it took 8 years to overcome some very bad decisions.

    What you need to do is face the possibility of parting ways with Kap. How long can you put up with him and point the finger at everyone else but Kap?

    Yesterday you asked who Ryan was. They were referring to Tim Ryan the other guy in the booth with Ted Robinson on Niner radio.
    Ryan pointed out yesterday that Boldin was pissed at Kap when he underthrew him for a pick. Boldin had beaten his man by 5 yards.

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    What’s going on is Mangini is trying to mask the defenses weaknesses with trickery.
    Against the Steelers he got really creative and had Eric Reid pretending to blitz the A gap and then sprint back into coverage.
    While Reid was back pedaling 20 yards to get back into position Antonio Brown was blowing by him and 10 yards into the open.

    You can’t trick the better teams because talent will trump your tricks and they catch on.

  25. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    CK is stupid. DC’s have us all figured out, in no time. CK has no trade value, except to a run QB team like the Bills.

    Release CK shortly. Make sure Blaine knows the offense and able to execute it first. Then trade or release CK. Trade deadline is coming up. The oline will prevent CK from any chance he can overcome.

    Spit is a politically correct leftie. Even if he doesn’t admit to it, subconsciously lefties have felt they need to protect their less advantaged political base. I have no reservations. CK is a moron. NFL is savage and puts extreme pressure on any weakness. CK needs to learn in a less pressure situation. His time is up.

    All backups everywhere need significant snaps at all positions and throughout the season. Transition to Blaine starts now. Stick with him no matter what. See what he is and how he progresses.

  26. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I honestly didn’t believe we could have been as bad as we were yesterday, but it was no fluke. One problem that I see is that Jed will likely be going nowhere, he will be forced to take certain steps(throwing crap at the wall until something sticks), and none of those steps will work in a timely fashion. He has created a monolith in the South Bay and everyone knows how valuable that is in Northern CA. Baalke will be the first to go(or should be) and he person to take his place should be able to run the team properly and bring in their own coaches. It’s overhaul time, sad but true.

  27. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Some here say Harbaugh had sway in drafting CK. He overestimated CK. Over time he realized CK was stupid and tried to mask it as well as he could.

    There are levels of stupidity. He misjudged CK to his detriment. He picked him so fitting that CK brought his demise. NJ suspected this for a while now.

  28. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Winder

    I wish Uncle Eddie would come back and take Jed to the woodshed asking him what the hell have you done?

  29. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    How did Chryst run a pistol zone read from their 2 yard line with Hyde six yards deep and the Cards run blitzing.
    The key here is zone read. Kap didn’t see that 3 guys were there to tackle Hyde and he should keep it and take it outside?
    End result safety.

  30. robNo Gravatar says:

    BULLITT oops I was throwing that out to anybody who wanted throw in an opinion. I touched on SPITs decade comments and even threw in a suckitude for skeebs benefit

  31. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    rob

    just heard another radio play by play clip where Torrey Smith had his hands on his hips after Kap underthrew him when he had his guy beat.

    Didn’t catch that on the broadcast but waiting for the coaches film to verify.

  32. winderNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- I just hope he takes Eddie’s advice and uses his connections.

  33. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula presser in one minute!

  34. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula just threw Chryst under the bus by claiming it was his own fault for not overruling the pistol play that resulted in safety.

  35. robNo Gravatar says:

    Yup coach should have had a better play there.
    Devey is not the answer at RG
    I Hope Kilgore makes it back soon

  36. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t get pissed at Mangini. Mangini isn’t good, but he’s doing the only thing he can do. The defense sucks so he’s trying to keep everything in front of him, forcing the offense to work methodically down the field with stuff underneath. It forces teams to execute for prolonged periods of time and if they do it’s the death of a thousand papercuts but it’s better than blowouts. And if offenses turn the ball over or don’t execute the underneath stuff (which is obviously pretty easy without a pass rush), then the 49ers will stay in games longer. With this stategy Mangini will slow offenses down and then, if you want to keep scores close, the 49er offense can’t turn the ball over. That’s the kiss of death that happened yesterday. The 49ers’ offense has to be patient and run the ball. Forget the wide receivers and all their talk and crying. This team is light years away from using its wide receivers effectively.

    Like I said, Mangini isn’t good but rushing 3 makes sense with these defensive bozos Baalke has assembled.

  37. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    I am happy. Worse team in NFL with FO/Guido sticking with CK no matter what. From TB and HC on down gone. Only choice is a big Connor Cook vs skinny Jared Goff. One or both have mental capacity for an NFL elite passing offense?

    Crash and burn. Taking it in the ass every week. Players quiting. Builds on itself, from rolling snowball to avalanche.

    #1 pick no doubt. CK the gift that keeps on giving. Blow this bitch up.

  38. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Mangini learned defensive coaching mostly under Belichick. I think he “understands” blitzing and QB pressure. He actually lines up a ton of blitzers on the line or threatening blitz from their LB slots. Then they make a “blitz move” which is intended to get a blocker to commit and then drop into coverage.

    It works when executed well. LeBeau did the same thing in his “zone blitzing” techniques. One of the problems with doing it to try to confuse an experienced pro QB is it’s not effective for more than a few plays run infrequently. When you do it as a game plan it’s practically useless because it’s not fooling the QB or he’s adjusted his plays. And as seen from us, it puts players in a position to cover receivers they are mismatched against. Too clever by half.

  39. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula had the look of Singletary when trying to explain how it all went to shit. At least he didn’t thank Arians for kicking our asses.

  40. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – I’m not watching the games so I shouldn’t really speak to what Mangini is doing, but if you don’t have the players the death by a thousand paper cuts strategy is the way to go because any qb can have a bad day.

    If I’m a qb, and I see the 49ers with five at the line, I laugh in their face. Without a high-powered offense, they can’t afford to blitz so bringing guys up in bluff only, like you wrote, puts the defense in a bad position to cover receivers.

    The sad part is Mangini might be halfway right with a bad defense and a lot of time to be mediocre. I wouldn’t be surprised if this entire coaching staff stays until the end of the 2016 year. Who else is going to work for Jed York?

    I’d be willing to bet that guys like Kyle Shanahan would simply turn Jed York’s offer down. Coaching the 49ers is a bad career move now that this team is void of talent.

  41. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck still in his bubble. Sad. Fighting from a defensive posture.

  42. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Anybody hear/read any more about the penalty Bowman got hit with for “actions in the pile?”

  43. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Suggestion from NN, release TJE and bring up Marcus Rush. Sounds good. Make Armstead a 4 down starter. Phase out Brooks for Harold, Rush, and Lemonier.

  44. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Shareece Wright wants a trade or release.

  45. winderNo Gravatar says:

    And the fun begins. What a clusterf#ck.

  46. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bowman was fighting for a ball in a pile.
    The zebras came in and told everyone to stop and unpile.
    Bowman admitted he didn’t listen and was still digging for the ball and did not stop so they threw the flag.

    Bowman said it was both his frustration at the team getting their ass kicked and his competitive spirit that caused the flag.

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Full transcript of Tomsula’s presser today.
    I like Tomsula as a person but he is way over his head to be head coach here and it’s starting to show in his answers.

    http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/jim-tomsula-part-happened-obviously-didnt-get-guys/

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers please indulge me.

    Chuckles just complimented Skeebers for admonishing me for what I posted. His trained monkey Nipper spun it.

    What Chuckles doesn’t realize is I simply posted what he said almost verbatim except for the profanity.

    Proves he’s a clueless clown. Pure comical entertainment.

  49. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Grassy-ass. I thought it must be something like that. But it’s not a call made very often in a dog pile free-for-all for possession of the ball.

    Btw, Bowman’s low overall grade for yesterday was most affected by his grade for penalties.

    The grades are all in the red for offense with few exceptions. Kaepernick took a -8.5 in passing close by was Martin with -6.0. Although Kaepernick had all day to through his last INT.

    Defensively Armstead stood apart with the only positive grade above 1.0. Dial and Johnson were 1.0 and 0.9 respectively. Carradine and Bethea were not negatives with 0.2 and 0.1. Otherwise, pukefest all around.

  50. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Tom Tolbert pointed out that Arians still had Palmer in the game
    and was throwing the ball in the 4th quarter when Cards were up 40-7. Looks like Arians wanted the score run up to send someone a message. Last TD pass to Fitzgerald happened with 5:15 left in the game.

  51. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Isn’t it a little too early for the dreaded “vote of confidence”
    from the front office?

    Of course they told Tomsula not to stand too close to them just in case somebody had bad aim.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/notes-york-baalke-offer-support-tomsula

  52. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    What would really be disappointing is after 2 blowouts, Tomsula has the same starting 22 with not one change.

  53. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Bears just traded DE Jared Allen to the Panthers for a draft pick.
    In season trades do happen.

  54. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Have I mentioned how much I hate the personalized versions of the National Anthem being performed before a game?

  55. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I think I also counted at least 4 or 5 high snaps from Martin
    yesterday that could’ve been disaster.

    No talk of tempo when your team is getting slaughtered.

    A 40 point loss is acceptable to Jed?

  56. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Hope the 49er DBs aren’t watching this. They might all decide to get the flu come Sunday morning.

  57. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Watching tonight or not, they’ll be studying this one more than the other GB recent games this week.

    Your comment reminded me of Joe Pesci, the whole store got the flu.

    So far, they won’t be so upset they kept Kaepernick, either.

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Now that Chicago has moved the Jared Allen Contract to Carolina, maybe there’s a guy or 2 Fangio might want from Baalke, to get his version of the Defense installed for the Bears?

  59. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I thought I read Chicago ended up paying 95% anyway. Was that not correct?

  60. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Haven’t seen that NoFear49er.
    Talk about taking it on the chin if true?

    Simply got the alert of the Trade being completed.

  61. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like you have it correctly.

    http://tinyurl.com/pbcud86

  62. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hoping Fangio will look to SF for some quick fixes perhaps?
    At the rate we’re plodding along, we can afford to move some pieces and the related Contracts involved.

    Ahmad Brooks, TJE?

  63. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Wouldn’t lose any sleep over TBrock or Shareece Wright either.

  64. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    God damn, Alex Smith stinks. I’m so glad he’s not the starting qb on my team…. the Michigan Wolverines.

  65. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bears passed on 2nd RD Pick, LB Jon Bostic today as well.
    Sent him to NE.

    Looks like they’re clearing out some Defensive talent early.

  66. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Five. Thousand. Nine. Hundred. Forty. Seven. To. Nothing. Packers.

  67. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Could we be in for 3 blowouts in a row?

    It’s possible unfortunately. I don’t have a score in mind yet but am calling for GB by 30.

  68. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Lots of furious fans out there on the blogs after this second humiliation in a row. Most pissed at York.

    Second favorite target is the GM Balkey.
    Third by a larger margin is Kaepernick.
    Fourth is Tomsula.

    And then there’s Chuck and his minions who blame Harbaugh.

    That’s like blaming Bush now for the messes created by our current POTUS.

  69. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil the most frustrating aspect of the AZ game was, for me, how poorly Kaep looked with his mechanics.
    All the work associated with Warner in the off season appeared to be missing.
    Off balance, feet not planted, falling backward, not seeing Defenders, etc.

    I’m concerned that they’ve dumbed-down the playbook too.
    If he’s not seeing coverage properly, no amount of simplification to the playbook is going to amount to hill of burritos.
    Defenses have figured out the routes.
    The OLine continues to struggle with the new ZBS.
    And, we haven’t offered any quick-hitters either.

    Our Defense is still looking confused, as that portion of the game is also a work in progress.
    I don’t choose to blame anyone specific, as this is the ultimate team game.
    However, when the QB can’t hold it together, nothing that’s Coached or practiced, is going to improve under game pressure.

    Time to see who goes in battle mode and, who simply goes through the motions.
    Shareece Wright can go to the first interested partner too.
    If you don’t want to do your part, there’s the door.

  70. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think they just nullified anything gained at QB camp by their “letting Kaepernick be himself” program.

    Under Harbaugh, Kaepernick looked smooth and in command running that zone read. Everybody knew it wouldn’t work for long as anything but a gimmick to add to a game plan as a change of pace. Tomsula wants to go back to college and doesn’t realize the other teams we play are still in the pros.

    These coaches are grasping at straws. Isn’t that at least obvious? They are like a collection of wannabes playing the parts of real coaches.

    Not a single one of them has any idea what to do to fix this. It’s not like we’re going out and playing our asses off and just getting beat by a better team. We’re playing like we were paid to play the patsies to the globe trotters. Maybe not even that good.

    When it’s systemic, it’s coaching!

  71. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I found another interesting DT from ‘Down Under’.

    Kid apparently is playing for GA Tech and, plays up and down the DL.

    Adam Gotsis, 6’5″/285

    Gotta see if I can catch a game.

    “Untapped potential. The 6-foot-4, 285-pounder has broad shoulders, long arms, a trim middle and surprising athleticism. His quickness allows him to slip blocks while playing defensive tackle, resulting in impact plays.
    Gotsis is also powerful. He anchors well to create a pile in short-yardage situations.”

    Early projection has him in RDs 2-3.

  72. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Where’s the avatar NoFear49er?
    A pink Col Klink doesn’t fit you 😀

    As stated, I expected transition pains.
    If they’re expecting to break Kaep down and rebuild him under Logan, it’s not going to be an easy process.
    He’s beginning to worry me.

    Had some doubts all along but….
    He’s looking less effective and more confused about what he’s seeing.

  73. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    In three games, Greg Roman’s Buffalo Bills have scored 100 points with a rookie qb. The 49ers? They’ve scored 45 offensive points with a rookie head coach. I think, actually, the 49ers have scored 57 points if you count Kaep’s two pick sixes, but I digress.

    Right now, Greg Roman has more than doubled the 49ers’ three game output. I didn’t bag on Roman very much like a lot of you did because I thought he did a great job in 2012, and then Baalke gutted his offensive talent in 2013 letting Moss, Walker and Ginn walk away in Kaep’s full year as qb. I thought that was stupid. I’m sure Baalke believed in 2013 his super star, AJ Jenkins, was ready to step up and contribute. “Sure… Walker, Ginn and Moss were expendable. No problem. We’ve got Jenkins. Next man up.” Oops.

    The more I think about it, the more I believe that Jim Harbaugh left because he knew early on that Trent Baalke sucked. Jimmy Ward? Good luck with Baalke.

    And to the rest of you, unhappy with Greg Roman as a Niner… Right now you deserve what you’re getting. And Baalke’s daughter tweeting Roman sucks is funny considering the true culprit when it comes to hurting the 49ers the last few years wasn’t Roman at all. It was Baalke.

  74. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spit there’s another angle to that comparison.
    Tyrod Taylor is better in the pocket and, throws a much more catchable ball than Kaep.

    It’s looking more and more like Roman and Harbaugh masked a lot of Kaeps shortcomings.

    Baalke didn’t pick Kaep. Nor did he Coach him.
    The lack of a passing game is something he’s been trying to correct for several years.
    If the QB can’t make it go, what’s the GM got to do with it?

  75. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Jim and Trent may very well have come to blows over the QB situation too?

  76. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “If the QB can’t make it go, what’s the GM got to do with it?”

    In a word NJ the GM has M Martin as our best C and Pears and Devey to replace Boone and A Davis on the ROL. Martin is a Balkey ‘red-shirt special’ with the ACL bargain bin label.

    Didn’t resign Iupati or adequately replace Davis who quit in May, foour months ago. Passed on Mathis in favor of a benched Brandon Thomas.

    We have no OL worth mentioning. How much would you say GM Balkey has to do with our sieve of an OL? This does not help our confused QB who needs time to see and dissect a D.

  77. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    As for coaching in addition to NFs comments above I have 2 questions:

    -Why was Bowman playing in the 4th quarter in this blowout?

    -Why was Kap playing in the 4th quarter in this blowout?

    Dumb? Insane, lol? Amateurish?

    Shareese Wright is this years LMJ and tells me the rot in Ninerville coaching + FO continues because really the top two bananas are firmly in place.

  78. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No question Phil.
    It’s a hot mess on the OLine.
    Thomas was, IMO, a step toward replacing Iupati ahead of his anticipated defection via FA.
    Kid was highly rated prior to a pre-Draft ACL tear.
    Ballke gambled on him returning to full health in time to contribute.

    Add the last minute retirement of AD to that mix, with the lingering injury to Kilgore.
    Plan B?
    Insert Martin, move Boone, find some immediate help on the market.

    How differently all of our dialogue would be, if Kaep could have put some air under those throws to Crabtree in NOLA huh?

    Simply saying, in a perfect world, Harbaugh and Baalke could have worked together to see the needs of the team through the same lens.
    For all the speculation, innuendo, media scoops and internal squabbles, it came to a divorce.

    Baalke needed Harbaugh to complete the Offense, which isn’t something Baalke has been particularly good at.
    If Jim was given the task of replacing Alex and, taking the team to the next level, as I suspect he was, Kaep may very well have been a bigger project than he anticipated?

  79. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    With that divorce came the attempt by Baalke to get another Offensive minded Coach in Gase.
    That is where the Jed factor is said to have come into the mix.
    Whether the stories are true or not?
    Who’s to say?

    It got blown up in grand, dysfunctional style.

    I can’t make sense of it and, quite frankly, I’m only along for the ride on the fan side of this mess.
    I can only hope they find answers to put it back on the tracks.
    Baalke made an excellent hire with Harbaugh.
    We need an Offensive mind, much like AZ has with Ariens.
    If Kaep bombs, we’re back to where we were with the Alex era.
    The QB makes this game go.

    We now have Anquan and Torrey, 2 SB winning WRs who aren’t seeing the ball.
    Do we put that on Baalke as a negative?

  80. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Very easy to find fault.
    I attempt to find solutions.
    For whatever that gets me 😀

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If Baalke dips back into the College ranks for the next HC, I’d still look toward an Offensive minded candidate.

    Gus Malzahn at Auburn is having a rocky start.
    Former OH State OC, Tom Herman is now HC in Houston.

    Malzahn may be a perfect fit for Kaep too.
    His style of Offense is probably more ‘Kaep-Friendly’.

    For now, we ride out the storm as currently constructed.
    Hoping Logan can do more with Kaep than Chryst and Co were able to do.

  82. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Malzahn is having his struggles this year because of his QBs aren’t capable.

    Tomsula is a lifelong defensive line coach with zero experience as a coordinator. He was a head coach in NFL Europe whose teams played a six game season. Tomsula needed a strong OC in the worst way. They settled on Chryst who hasn’t been an OC for over 10 years. They brought in Logan as QB coach who’s been a talk show host for the last 3 years. Then they started this smoke and mirrors campaign on how Kap has improved and is now the total package. This week it was revealed that the playbook has been reduced to what works for Kap.

    As I pointed out previously up tempo only works if your offense is moving the chains. If your offense is getting stuffed, up tempo offense is a huge mistake as it leaves your defense on the field to get gouged.

    At the start of the season I said the team would only improve as much as Kap did. The Packers are a GPS game for Kap. The Niners under Harbaugh had the Packer’s number. We’ll see this Sunday if that still holds true.

    With last night’s 5 TD game by Rodgers maybe he’ll have a letdown?

  83. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I know what you’re saying about Logan.
    The only saving grace I see with him is his resumè.
    He worked with Matty Ice along the way and, has been said to be QB friendly.

    We’ve encountered the perfect sh!tstorm in terms of Staff/Mgt dysfunction.
    As I mentioned earlier to NoFear49er, the plan may be to breakdown and retool Kaep now?
    He’s looking lost in terms of identifying his targets, which is not helped by the OLine disorder.

    Defense too, new and having issues.
    I can’t say I expected it to be this much of learning curve but…

    I just want to see who’s going to continue to play hard while they attempt to right the ship.
    Painful as it might be….

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As for GB?
    I ain’t holding my breath for this one.
    Especially if the Secondary can’t get their collective heads on the same page.

  85. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If the playbook has been scaled down to accommodate Kaep, it’s not working very well at the moment.
    Put a good portion of that on the OLine.
    He’s just not looking sharp the past 2 weeks.

  86. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    In the 2013 playoffs I pointed out that on the final drive against the Packers Kap threw a pass to Boldin outside the numbers that Hyde of GB should have picked but dropped. It was right into his hands.
    IIRC fast forward a week against the Seahags and Kap threw another pass in the same spot to Boldin that Chancellor did pick.

    It shows me that Kap doesn’t see the safety underneath who’s following his eyes and this is a major hole in Kap’s makeup
    and to me Kap doesn’t learn by his mistakes. Upon his failures against Seattle I did not like his stubborn answer that he wouldn’t do anything different. If you blew it you need to adjust.

    He still needs to put more air under his throws. The trajectory is too flat and that cuts down on the margin for error with the guy catching the ball.

    It’s damn frustrating.

  87. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here are the broadcast videos of all 4 picks. Still waiting for coach’s All 22 film.

    http://a.video.nfl.com/films/2015/NFL_COM/in-game-highlight/NFLCOM/REG/3/150927_bp_ari_bethel_pick_6_303648_3200k.mp4

    https://streamable.com/2dg2

    http://a.video.nfl.com/films/2015/NFL_COM/game-highlight/NFLCOM/REG/3/150927_bp_ari_powers_int_303729_3200k.mp4

    http://a.video.nfl.com/films/2015/NFL_COM/in-game-highlight/NFLCOM/REG/3/150927_bp_ari_tyrann_mathieu_int_303720_3200k.mp4

    Last year when Kap threw a pick I remember one apologist suggesting that Kap threw the perfect pass and the receiver wasn’t running fast enough suggesting he slowed down. That receiver was Crabtree and I took it as pure bias by Kap’s fanboy club.

  88. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit it’s all in the eyes of the beholder.
    OK by me to disagree about other folks and their opinions.
    What matters to me is to see Kaep succeed.

    The team goes as the QB goes on Offense.
    Everyone has a job to do.
    The better the efforts, the better the results.

    We’re just tripping over ourselves in all phases right now.

  89. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit it’s all in the eyes of the beholder.
    OK by me to disagree about other folks and their opinions.
    What matters to me is to see Kaep succeed.

    The team goes as the QB goes on Offense.
    Everyone has a job to do.
    The better the efforts, the better the results.

    We’re just tripping over ourselves in all phases right now.

  90. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Tired of hearing CK is a hard worker. Does the hard work yield results. How did the better QB’s get through the years where there was poor pass pro. Not rocket science. This is a copycat league. Study the film.

    Logan has to be the best judge of this. IMO QB must be a smart leader. By now all the QB 101 stuff has been presented. He must absorb and incorporate the coaching, retain it and build on it.

    He failed Sunday. Coaches should have had Gabbert fully prepared and should have been leading the team for the 2nd half, if not earlier.

    What a waste of the entire O when Guido calls 13 or whatever runs to settle him down. Have Gabbert start the next X games while a QB guru from outside goes over everything with the dimwit and when deemed finally up to speed have him start.

    At all times evaluate any trade offers from other teams. I would manage the team to lose every game. The caliber of the coaching and scouting is abysmal. Having #1 for the best physical/mental QB potential e.g. Connor Cook takes the least risky path.

    CK needs too much work. Not a franchise QB, especially not elite which this club should have.

  91. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Thx bullit for the INT videos. He made their DB’s look good. He may just be inaccurate. Not enough work to know each receiver’s speed. Coaches need to determine what is wrong and correct it. Two of the INT’s had no pressure.

    IMO it is BEST for the TEAM that Gabbert gets a lot of playing time. Is CK making repeatable mistakes. You bleeding heats worry about CK’s psyche. What about the team. Continue passing the ball, no matter what.

  92. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    It is obvious there are windows for each pattern when the ball should be thrown. Some underthrown, others thrown late when DB’s closing in. These are contested passes.

    Are there wide open receivers elsewhere that he does not see. There must be TE’s or RB’s waiting for dump off passes. Decision making. Some passes are perfectly defensed. Most have wide open receivers somewhere.

    Maybe Gabbert can find them.

  93. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Any effective passing game needs the full field to be in play. He has no time to go through all progressions. Needs to read the coverage to help him identify where those open receivers would most likely be.

    If WR’s covered well look for TE and RB. Cannot wait for articles less from all-22. How many and where were the open receivers.

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    bakkentom

    Extremely unfair to compare Kap to the best. What guys like Rodgers, Brady and Big Ben have is vision. They know where all their receivers are on the plays they call.

    Last Rodgers ran a clinic. Rodgers called a run play but pulled the ball out of Lacy’s belly when he saw Cobb had an easy TD.

    If you don’t know where every receiver is, send 5 out, then you are not a NFL QB. Kap rarely goes beyond a 2nd read.

    His accuracy on Sunday was horrific. He should have lead Torrey Smith by 2 yards and he ended up grossly underthrowing what looks like an easy completion that the DB picked.

  95. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    My Wolverines are now ranked 22nd, with a crappy qb. But they aren’t yet ranked in the coaches’ poll, probably because Harbaugh went on an aggressive tour of the US recruiting players from different coaches’ backyards. But the Michigan Wolverines aren’t a team any college program wants to play. Just ask BYU’s head coach, Bronco Mendenhall.

    Good coaches are damn hard to come by. It’s easier to find a suit.

  96. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    This is what happens when you pick Trent Baalke over Jim Harbaugh. Oops!

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/03/12/49ers-fans-reselling-seat-licenses-for-thousands-less-than-they-paid-a-year-ago/

  97. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Per the above article, 49er games at Levi Stadium are the most expensive games in the NFL. But one could argue after three games that the 49ers are the worst team in the NFL. I think the 49ers would have a tough time beating the Jaguars or Browns. So what happens when you have the worst team (or one of the worst teams) in the NFL with the highest ticket prices? What happens is that Levi Stadium becomes a ghost town and then vendors and sponsors either want to re-negotiate or walk away completely. Think Levis would pay now what they paid then knowing how awful this team would be in 2015? No way.

    The reason all of this is happening is because Jed York has never run or built anything in his life. Jed York is a cancer.

  98. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Some think that Kap owns the Packers based on past history.

    You could have said that about the Cards too which went out the window with the coaching changes.

    “Prior to Sunday’s game, Kaepernick had won four of five career starts against Arizona. He entered the game with nine touchdowns and one interception against the Cardinals for a passer rating of 106.2.”

    Then Geep Chryst pressed the reset button to make Kap more comfortable.

  99. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – It wasn’t Kaep ownership. It was Harbaugh ownership.

  100. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    49ers-GB get the #1 FOX crew of Buck/Aikman/Erin Andrews so probably nationally televised. Show us the love. Jed will be thoroughly discredited by the time SB 50 comes around.

  101. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Is there a big player out there that wants to be a buyer at a very low price. Kicking Jed in the teeth and driving franchise value lower.

  102. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    RT Jordan Mills available, released by Bears and started a lot of games for a young guy. Ax pears, add mills?

  103. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Some on the team think Andrew Tiller can be an upgrade on the Oline. Remember Tiller is on the practice squad and if another team needs an Olineman they can sign him onto their roster, basically swiping him from the Niners.

    If that happened the pitchforks and torches might come out.
    Maybe I’m wrong but Tomsula seems to like the current starting lineup and is reluctant to make changes.

    Imagine being Kap and not getting pulled no matter how many points you gift the other team. That’s job security.

  104. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    ” #7tormComing ”

    Any questions?

  105. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yep it’s still the same old Kap, the one who had a 4-1 record against the Cards w/ Harbs as HC including beating them in Jimis last game with a battered, injured team and York sharpening the knives the whole year.

    Next time we play them it’s still Kap but no Jimi, no Drevno, no Fangio, no Roman. But also no AD, Iupati, etc. Still 4 turnovers from Kap that was ‘new’. And far worse.

    When the big game arrives it seems it is too big for Kap and this crew of coaches is unable to calm him down and protect the Niners from his weaknesses.

  106. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So are they waiting for Reggie Bush to get well before they start up that much talked about screen game?
    Wouldn’t that be a “TELL” if you put Bush in the game expect a screen pass?
    That’s pretty simplistic and easy to figure out.

  107. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Not sure why some clowns are touting the Vikes as a 2-1 team on the premise that we beat a good team in week one.
    Whatever floats your boat. Everything positive from that game has been erased by the drubbing and meltdown of the last two games. It is very hard to find any silver linings especially in the game against the Cards.
    I’m sure it’s happened but I have never seen a pro offense fail to cross the 50 yard in any game. Niners came very close to doing that if it weren’t for Hayne. That would be the ultimate humiliation and label your offense inept.

  108. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chargers worked out C J.D. Walton and G Joe Looney today.

  109. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Two more ex QBs weigh in

    Rich Gannon: “When I threw an interception, at least I made the tackle. What’s going on with Colin Kaepernick? He has to clean up his act. Right now he looks so uncomfortable. He is a big reason why that team is struggling.”

    Steve Beuerlein: “I’m questioning the coaching all the way around. Who is running the show there? There are so many problems behind-the-scenes right now within that organization. (Kaepernick) looked totally unprepared yesterday … You have to blame him on the field. He has to play a lot better. But I don’t think he is getting coached up right now either.”

  110. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The two ex QBs are analysts for CBS Sports.

    Ann Killion said something on CSNBA that will not thrill Kap supporters. She said she has heard on many occasions that Kap is indeed a hard worker in the weight room, not so much in the classroom and the film room.

  111. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Well, it looks like Jed’s Legal Team will be busy for a while….

    http://tinyurl.com/njt3zkp

  112. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Pilot training has cockpit simulators. Is there anything similar for QB training. This dimwit took the easy way out. NFL ain’t college pistol. He thought he was the new wave.

    Harbaugh and Roman greased the skids for him. False confidence his first two years. He took the wrong color pill.

  113. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bakkentom it’s looking as though Roman and Harbaugh were able to mask his deficiencies, and ride that ‘wave’ just long enough, to be successful.
    What always happens in this game however is, other teams figure you out.
    Seattle did it by flushing him to the left, essentially cutting the field in half, something Tyrann Mathieu in AZ is now pointing out.

    Unless, and until, Kaep learns to throw with success between the hashes, he’s not going to cut it at this level.
    His eyes are slow, his release is as well.
    For all the off season ‘pocket’ work, he’s not looking very polished back there.

  114. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    You two are morons.

  115. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This coming from the resident ‘Geneous’

  116. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh fields winning teams with Alex Smith AND Colin Kaepernick by designing the offense and game plans to not expose their weaknesses, while working to strengthen those weaknesses. That’s not hiding or riding the wave. That’s what the HC is expected, and paid, to do.

    Tomsula falls flat and produces the worst game his QB ever had and below the mark most failed pro QBs will ever post. Nobody’s on his ass or Chryst’s or Logan’s for flat out ineptness and theft of salary as imposters?

    And Tyrann Mathieu isn’t pointing that out at all. He’s saying Tomsula/Chryst is rolling Kaepernick out frequently, something you and other fans have been saying was needed, and that rolling out is what cuts the field in half for the QB AND therefore, the defense.

    btw, the WCO of Bill Walsh is filled with QB roll outs just for the purpose of cutting the field in half for the QB. It’s not the scheme that’s flawed there.

  117. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er I agree that Harbaugh/Roman appear to have masked Kaep’s deficiencies.
    What still frustrates me is the ‘vision’ aspects of Kaep’s game.
    Why they’ve simplified things has me scratching my head.

    Wouldn’t roll outs on the WCO platform play to higher percentage throws?
    That’s the direction I’ve been leaning in for Kaep.
    Beginning to think the mechanics and touch are lacking to make it proficient?

    No argument with respect to the Coaching thus far.
    Pitiful.

  118. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Kaep seems to need to see an ‘open’ target before letting it go too.
    Not leading or, throwing a target open.
    Comes back to that ‘touch’ phase of my frustrations.

  119. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    To be clear, the wave I eluded to was the Pistol portion of Kaeps’ game.
    Clearly Harbaugh and Roman got the benefit of using his legs to great success early on.
    Where I believe the meat of the problems exist, is getting him to the Pocket level of proficiency.

    It just brings me back to that mystery of Teacher vs Student in this debacle.
    Did Baalke expect more from Harbaugh with the development timetable?
    Did Harbaugh expect more from Kaep?

  120. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    As Walsh said, among the reasons for roll outs, short QB can’t see the receivers over the linemen, avoiding pressure, narrow the field for the QB.

    Most HC/OCs involve the QB in game plannng. His input as to what plays he’s comfortable with and what plays he’s not. IMO, the game plan is not the place to force the QB into new habits/behavior.

    It follows that any game plan is restricted by the QB’s ability and comfort level. When Kaepernick wasn’t worried over disguised coverages and pressures he just saw it and threw it. Now he’s become gun shy. Same thing happened to Alex. Confidence is the best solution and apparently Harbaugh/Roman instilled a lot more of it than this bunch.

    Also the reason a coach calls plays in practice is not because he has a need to relive his glory years as I’ve heard some profess, or the QB can’t handle it, it’s because there are situations he’s trying to recreate for the practice session. There are damn few minutes for any of them and coaches spend days (and nights) figuring out how to best use those session minutes.

    I think Kaepernick’s hit a wall. The wall where reality humbles everyone sooner or later. The wall where talent alone isn’t going to carry the day. Like Lombardi put it, some players need a pat on the back, some need a kick in the ass, coaching is knowing which. Tomsula is not a kick in the ass coach. I don’t know about Harbaugh in regards to QBs, but I suspect he wasn’t either. But he had the cred of having played the position at least.

  121. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t think Baalke had a problem with Kaepernick. If he did Kaepernick would likely be gone now. Besides he protected the team against just such a performance drop from Kaepernick.

    I remember a lot of folks giving him and Harbaugh hell for “dissing” Kaepernick like that.

  122. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Agree about the protection aspect NoFear49er, which I’ll assume relates to the Contract structure?
    If so, it does indeed provide an ‘out’ without major Cap consequences.

    I’ve long thought that Kaep needed more WCO timing to force his progressions.
    He seems plenty athletic enough to throw on the run.
    Where he’s driving me nuts is, the happy feet aspect of his game.
    Hard to break those habits as a running QB I’m sure.

    Agree as well, regarding the Harbaugh cred for the QB position.
    Have thought all along that Baalke needed an Offensive guy to take the next step toward success.
    Simply blows my mind that the 2 of them couldn’t work it out.

    I equate Baalke to Parcells more for their Defensive acumen.
    Baalke isn’t providing much to the Offensive side of the game on his own.

  123. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    What’s your take on ‘simplifying’ the playbook?
    Do we assume Kaep isn’t grasping things or, is it a move toward retooling his game to another gear for Logan’s vision?
    Logan has been said to have more WCO roots on his resumè.

  124. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Another segment of Sunday’s game I caught on the tube was Boldin jawing with Tomsula on the sideline.
    Would love to know what was being said in that spat.
    Wonder if Boldin is bashing the Coaching or Kaep?

  125. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    re dumbing down the playbook, doesn’t make a lot of sense to broadcast it to the public and your opponents in any case.

    It’s what coaches usually do for first year QBs to help slow the game down for them. So it makes me think Kaepernick is overwhelmed. It also makes everybody else think that. Not a big confidence booster.

    I think Tomsula’s already said, he told his coaches they are not going to push their systems on the players. They are instead going to figure out what the players like to do and devise a system to feature those things. This is the naive new head coach who thinks he’s discovered the simple and obvious solution that has escaped all the ‘stupid’ head coaches before him. Just do what the players like.

    It’s got all the players bitching, that’s for sure. And he better get a handle on that real quick or he’s toast before the bye.

    I think Tomsula’s in way over his head and reminds me every day of the Singletary fiasco. In fact he got there the same way.

  126. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Curious to know what exactly the ‘system’ is at this point.
    How many months of prep thus far? For this?
    Granted, I expected the transition pains with all the Staff changes.

    Good point about Kaep being overwhelmed too.
    Out goes Solari, in comes Foerster, all feeding into the confusion.

    Can’t see Tomsula being on BYE Week Watch just yet, simply because he’s the ‘company guy’.

    As some here have speculated, there isn’t a wealth of qualified applicants waiting in the wings for a shot at this mess.

    Baalke tipped his hand with the attempt to lure Gase.
    We certainly need an Offensive mind in the worst way.
    Question becomes,, is Logan capable of doing anything more with Kaep than Harbaugh and Roman could?
    I’m just not convinced we have enough positives to build around Kaep at this point.

    What ‘system’ can we have in mind for a Pistol QB at the Pro level?
    If they’re not forcing a system of any kind, what the eff are we looking forward to?
    Waiting for Hyde to get destroyed?

  127. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    They need to get some sort of passing game in order, post haste.
    As has been shown, opponents will continue to force Kaep outside the numbers.

    He/they need to get something going inside.
    Be it with TEs or RBs, something has to take shape. NOW.

    For all the preseason work involved up to this point, we sure haven’t shown much, short of 1 nice TD to Torrey in Pittsburgh.
    This Offense needs more than that, to even consider it a step in the right direction.

  128. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I didn’t mean toast as in fired. I meant as in dead man walking. Lost the team. Etc., etc. I’m sure the Jed-Baalke will voice their support of him throughout the season regardless of the players and fans turning on him.

    That’s why Tomsula’s plan is doomed. The players won’t play for a coach who’s just winging it. Pretty much why the fire sale in Chicago. Fangio knows the player types he needs for his system. A few of those guys, while good players, don’t fit. Guys like Fangio has the pelts, players know it. Tomsula, no pelts.

  129. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Ahh, gotcha.
    Makes sense.
    Tomsula seems like a decent guy but, as you suggest, he’s not going to do much for the Offensive side of this equation that will garner much attention from the rank and file.

    To your point on Fangio, I’m waiting to see if he comes calling for any ‘known entities’ on our roster, now that they sent Jared and Bostick packing.

    If we’re going into the great unknown, may as well get it going earlier, rather than later.

  130. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spent all afternoon last Sunday trying to keep my Boys off the ledge.
    Getting extremely hard to keep a positive attitude after B2B A$$-Kickings.
    ‘Reasonable Dad’ is inching closer to ‘Going Postal Dad’ 😀

    Appreciate the exchange NoFear49er.
    Enjoy the day.

  131. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    I was watching CSNBA yesterday and they had Ann Killion on.
    She said the hard worker part about Kap was only in the weight room.
    The classroom and the film room were not his preferred venues.

    It has been obvious to me for a while that a QB with talent would salivate when they put 8 in the box. That means one or more of your receivers will be covered one on one. That means you make them pay by burning them for loading the box.
    Kap has never been able to do that. In the past posters here have blamed the receivers for not getting open or the coach for a bad scheme.
    The major flaw Kap has is he still stares down receivers and he has to see a receiver getting open and not trusting the WR enough to throw to a spot.
    If Martz were the coach Kap would fail because his passing plays were balls thrown before the WR made their breaks.

    Wonder why Kap throw a fade? Because he releases the ball too late and doesn’t trust the receiver to be where he’s supposed to be. His fade throws are most always flat and leave zero margin for error.

    Right now Kap is not worth the $1 mil he’s getting paid per game. This is the year he’s making the elite money and he needs to live up to it.

  132. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Might be time to pay attention to Jarrod Goff. Goff is deadly accurate and throws a catchable ball putting the ball consistent on the receivers hands. It seems he’s been coached to have very good footwork. Come Nov/Dec he’s likely to be on top of every Niner fan’s wish list.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEGafktM5r4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3vxDY5YXK0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqENfFC1WeU

  133. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The irony of all of this is Tomsula might run an even more conservative offense than Harbaugh did. Declaring that your team is not a dropback passing team on 1st and second down is no bueno.

    Be careful what you wish for.

  134. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Another WR to add to your list Josh Doctson TCU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTiKymM-pYs

  135. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit Goff has been in my radar already.
    I’m whistling past the graveyard at this point, hoping we aren’t going back to square one at the QB position.

    I’ll check on Doctson too.
    If we get smoked on Sunday, I’m gonna be spending much more time looking toward the Draft.

    Love Kaep’s upside but…
    He’s had more than enough time to show progress.

    You’re preaching to the choir with me and flat throws.
    I can’t shake the shots we had in the SB to Crabtree.
    Multiple shots to boot.

    Arggghhh….

  136. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Given our ailments, I’m already thinking guys for the trenches.

    Protect the QB/Sack the QB.

  137. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Just think Niners need to move on from Kap or at least plan that he will fail. Baalke has painted this team in a corner by not having an alternative Plan B.
    IMO it is ridiculous to keep hoping a QB will blossom after 5 years. Sometimes they do but usually with a change of scenery.
    Especially if the QB is not showing progress. Weak Oline exposes
    flaws and weaknesses in game.

  138. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Goff will be the first guy off the board next Spring. As bad as we are, I doubt that we will manage to land the first pick. Or that we’ll be in a position to trade up. Such things require both relentless dedication to Suckage, AND some luck. We have lots of #1, but our luck lately has been in short supply.

    Even if we get him, who will coach him? We have nothing but disarray right now. Our GM may be crucified for his sins come January. And if not, he’ll probably draft a defensive lineman. Tomsula is also a candidate to be gone. And who the Hell will want to come and work for the Yorks after the way Harbaugh was run off? Nobody with any smarts, I’m afraid.

    Because of Jed, our situation right now might be *worse* than 1978 with Joe Thomas.

    And that is pretty damned bad.

  139. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Good input as always on this blog. CK has to have within himself to accept coaching and upgrade all facets of his game. He puts great pressure on Chryst and Logan to workaround his flaws. He exposes receivers to greater chance of injury with inaccuracy and not hitting the window of openness for each route. Rib cage and hip injuries for his receivers must have medical professionals circling around this team.

    Only TB knows what interest is out there in the trade market. I would get rid of him before the trade deadline. Even if for a 2050 7th. Go with Gabbert after he is gone.

    He fails QB 101.

  140. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    There was a lot of criticism on the radio yesterday as to why they didn’t play Kap more in the preseason.
    Tomsula’s excuse was he didn’t want to reveal anything.
    Even to the point that he didn’t want Kap to audible. Has Kap called any audibles in the regular season?
    IMO it was very elitist to think that Kap didn’t need the work in preseason games. I have always felt it is different to play against a hostile team rather than friendlies in practice.
    The wild card aspect of uncertainty makes you think on your feet and try to adapt to situations. We wouldn’t want that now would we?

  141. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    DC’s know to bias their scheme to cover Smith, Boldin, and VD tight. Other TE and RB, at least one has to be wide open. Coach’s film will show these guys wide open.

  142. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula’s excuse was he didn’t want to reveal anything. Like how much our offense sucks.

  143. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This game could very well be a trap game for the Packers.
    Think back to last season when the Raiduhs lost on the road to the Rams humiliatied 52-0.
    The Niners went into Oakland confident and got their heads handed to them.

    Problem is this Niner team needs to be consistent and competitive. Winning 1 game and getting crushed in the next 2 is NFL purgatory.
    A 6 win season puts you in the teens for the draft and out of the running for the sure difference makers.

    Baalke needs to see things as they really are and call it a rebuild and draft and sign players accordingly.
    There is no way in hell that this is a reload. The box of ammo is empty.

  144. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Oline needs determined this season. Play and develop Marcus Martin and Brandon Thomas. Can we count on a line of Staley/Boone/Kilgore/Martin or Thomas/Davis. Boone leaves or paid like a tackle and will be LT of future.

    If so no high picks spent here. Continue developing young D players. O skill players get the high picks in 2016.

  145. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    After 2 blowouts Tomsula is standing pat saying no lineup changes are required

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/tomsula-49ers-dont-need-shakeup-after-blowout-losses

  146. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula: “That frustration thing is just a thing we have to put in the right place and make it work for you instead of against you.”

    Clueless.

  147. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Ah yes, I remember these days as a Niner fan. Three weeks into the season and you’re already talking draft. That’s what poor ownership will do to you.

    This is why I was so adamant last year that Jed was an idiot and Harbaugh should stay. Makes no difference if the 49ers get some beast in the draft, Jed York won’t know how to handle him. The very nature of a beast is that they’re gonna have issues off the field. That’s what makes them a beast. Reggie White comes around once every two or even three generations.

    Baalke will pick someone and with the off chance they have talent, they’ll still suck because of the team around them.

    And then there’s the race for the first round pick and watching the 49ers win painful moral victories that take them further away from higher draft choices – or the number one overall. I know it all too well. Not going down that road with you boys again. But I sure am going to enjoy watching York fail… and fail again.

  148. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    GB can have points put up on their D. No excuse for CK and the OC to do 3 or 4 td’s.

    Too bad we are in NFC West. Colts 1-2 play jags then houston. With good fortune in our sails, onward to 1-15.

  149. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners special team coach says Hayne does not have the right skillset yet to return kickoffs.
    On kickoff returns you catch the ball and look for a seam or a crease and start avoiding tacklers.
    I think Hayne would do great on kickoff returns (at least better than D White who’s barely making it to the 20.)

  150. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    As suspected I have been observing that Tomsula is overly optimistic about injuries. Remember he said Kilgore was close to returning and his surgery in June was no big deal? Then they put Kilgore on the PUP list.
    Turns out Kilgore had 12 screws and a plate replaced on his fibula and right now is about a month away depending on his conditioning.

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2015/09/30/center-daniel-kilgore-on-track-in-comeback-from-significant-surgery/

    Was not a realistic assessment that Kilgore could start the season and the FO could have brought in more veteran help.
    The center the Chargers signed yesterday J.D. Walton started all 16 games last season for the Giants. He was out there as a free agent and as it turns out would be a better alternative than Marcus Martin.

  151. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Very true that if Rodgers gets the defense to jump with his hard count he’ll go for the TD with the free play. Niners have to be extra aware of that and can’t relax especially when the flag comes out.

    Also remember there is no love lost between Clay Matthews and the Niners. He’s going to be head hunting and is a pass rushing problem.

  152. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Do you guys think Bakkentom likes Colin Kaepernick? Bullit has Chuck wood sportin’ night and day, and Bakkentom has a man-crush on CK. It’s a little awkward in here sometimes. But I have my man crushes, too. Baalke and York are super dreamy.

  153. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, that tattoo thing is subliminal.

  154. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    http://www.smartfootball.Com

    http://www.strongfootballcoach.Com

    2nd link has article on zone coverages of the 50 defense which is basically the 3-4. To help understand the mess and growing pains of mangini’s scheme. A long season, unless the goal is 1-15.

  155. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, before I forget….

    34-21 GB 🙁

  156. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Me too, 55-18 GB

  157. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit your WR prospect Josh Docston looks interesting.
    Carrying a RD2 Grade at the moment.
    Like that 4.49 40 number too.

  158. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I saw WR De’Runnya Wilson from MS State recently.
    Can’t find much on him at the moment but, he’s a big target, 6’4″/225 and didn’t look bad.
    All I can see right now is a RD2-3 Grade on him.

    At this point, I’m hoping some of this years’ crop will keep us solvent.
    Would prefer to beef up the trenches early.

  159. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Questionable speed is one important knock on him at the moment.

  160. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    2 guys to keep an eye on from MI State also.

    DE – Shilique Calhoun 6’5″/252
    QB – Connor Cook 6’4″/220

    Think I mentioned Calhoun recently?
    He’s a known commodity here in NJ. Plenty of ink on his behalf.
    I haven’t seen him play however.
    Some feel he’s athletic enough to play OLB as a Pro.

  161. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    “Calhoun needs to add some weight for the NFL if he’s going to remain a defensive end. It would help if Calhoun added some functional strength as well. He also needs to add to his repertoire of pass-rushing moves. After a slow start to 2014, Calhoun played better in the second half of the year. The junior speed rusher recorded 39 tackles with 12.5 tackles for a loss, eight sacks and a forced fumble for the season.

    Calhoun was one of the top players on Michigan State’s superb defense in 2013. For the year, he recorded 37 tackles with 14 tackles for a loss, 7.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and an interception.”

  162. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    What seems strange to me is in the past the Niners used to bring in free agents for a workout on Tuesdays. The Pats are constantly looking at free agents.
    This year it just seems that they stopped doing this and God knows they need to improve the Oline. Like I said why didn’t they look at J.D. Walton at center who was good enough to start 16 games last year for the Giants? They could have shuffled the line moving Martin to RG.
    It seems Tomsula in his press conference yesterday is way too loyal to his starters and reluctant to bench underachievers.
    This does not bode well for his future if Tomsula is not willing to make the tough choices.

  163. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Another WR is Norte Dame’s Will Fuller 6’0″ 185 lbs JR
    Fuller is a speedy playmaker who had 1000 yds receiving and 15 TDs last season

  164. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy

    Offenses are studying film and seeing how the defense plays.
    The receivers just go to the vacated areas of the zone. That’s how they are so wide open.
    Seems the offense has as good a read on our defensive scheme as
    the defense has on Kap’s passes that went for pick sixes.

    Niners are getting out coached and they are fooling nobody but themselves. The dumpster fire continues to burn.

  165. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    MJD is a NFL Network analyst and put the history of Gabbert in JAX in perspective. Let’s see if CK is mental damaged goods. Only way to find out is bench CK.

  166. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Kaep fan boys in max protect at Homer blog. Send in the Clowns.

  167. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    After Kap threw his 2 pick sixes the Niners called 13 straight running plays and gained one first down.
    After the 2 Niner punts the Cards took the ball in for 2 more TDs making the score 28-0.
    Hayne returned a punt to the Card 23 and Kap completed a pass to the Card 5 , Hyde lost 7 yards and Kap ran the ball in for a 28-7 score.
    Kap started throwing again and his 3rd pass was intercepted by Mathieu which led to a FG to end the half.
    Kap cam out throwing in the second half and his first pass was intercepted and they punched it in from the 42 so the Cards led 38-7.

    So Kap threw 2 picks sixes and then on consecutive pass attempts 2 more interceptions.

    And yet Tomsula says he didn’t see any reason to replace him?

  168. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula could’ve given Gabbert a series to hand the ball off.

    If you are scared to have your QB pass the ball, then he shouldn’t be in the game and shouldn’t be your QB.

    Instead of trying to make a comeback using both pass and run, Tomsula just wanted to run the clock out. He basically raised the white flag.

    A TD after the second pick six and the Niners are in the game 14-7.

  169. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy, read it when it was posted last night. Our own D may not master his scheme all season. Schedule has us facing a slaughterhouse of pass QB’s almost every game. His scheme meet young inexperienced front 7.

    Couple that with mentally overwhelmed CK incapable of elevating his game enough to match the DC’s. CK, the gift that keeps on giving. Are the devout followers similar to the Alex clingers?

    Happy song, HIT IT. 1-15 smoking down the tracks.

  170. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Happy Song is Sept 28 post at 1:15pm if u r stoked.

    Kap said no surprises at what ARIZ D did. Just execution and decision making need tweaking. Feel better now.

  171. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Any more pigskin prognosticators out there?

    Sir Spitblood: Five. Thousand. Nine. Hundred. Forty. Seven. To. Nothing. Packers. (Last weeks winner remains a firm pessimist)

    phil fan: 44-14 GB. Could we be in for 3 blowouts in a row? It’s possible unfortunately.I am a pessimist too and calling for GB by 30. Prove me wrong Niners. This is a lot more fun when we’re predicting wins.

    NJ49er: 34-21 GB. Phil, before I forget…. 34-21 GB

    bakkentom: Me too, 55-18 GB

    This is the first time weve had a solid vote for Niners to lose.

  172. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Pyongyang N.K. is printing articles on how the Niners can salvage the QB situation with Kap.

    Seems to me when a QB is paid $16 mil a year which breaks down to $1mil a game the QB’s name and the word salvage should never be in the same sentence.

    This is not something you shrug your shoulders at. The 49ers need Kap to perform to the level he’s getting paid or else part ways.

    The constant vortex of excuses that he’s young, has no receivers, has no offensive line, has no playcaller, and bad coaching schemes are just what they are,REVOLVING LAME EXCUSES.

    Kap’s biggest problem is inconsistency. He has an occasional above average flashy game every few months but can’t do it in a span of 3-4 weeks. With all the past Niner success Kap has never been named NFC Offensive player of the Month. The money he is being paid is the same as what NFL MVPs are getting.

  173. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I see that facts are being cherry picked to advance a narrative.
    That is that Steve Young didn’t start playing at a high level until he was 30, so Kap should be given that opportunity.

    Steve Young didn’t start as the QB of the Niners because they already had the best QB in history playing for them, Joe Montana.
    When Young got his chance at age 30 Young made the most of it starting for the next 7 years and turning those years into a HOF worthy career.
    After this year Kap would’ve started for 3 years. If Kap plays just 4 more years do you think his stats and accomplishments would be worthy of induction into the HOF? The way things are going now it’s highly doubtful.

    Right now you can’t even compare Kap’s career to Jeff Garcia’s 5 years starting with the Niners. Garcia threw 113 TD passes while he was here with seasons where he threw 32 m1nd 31 TDs.

  174. robNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry PHILL still solid
    Green bay 34 niners 24

  175. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Billick: “He is like a rookie quarterback that can only throw what he sees”

    All the input in the world from staff and peers. He really needs to gut check himself. Teammates will give up on him at some point.

  176. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s what’s going to happen in this game, Phil.

    The 49ers are going to run the ball and play the death by a 1,000 paper cuts strategy on defense that I’ve tried to outline with Mangini only rushing 3 and 4, trying to keep everything in front of him, preventing the deep ball. That’ll only work in the first half, keeping the score 17-0 at half, with the 49ers owning time of possession.

    In the second half, Kaep and the offensive coaches are going to have to score quick points and Kaep will again make mistakes while pressing. This will result in the game really getting away from the 49ers once again with a score of 31-0 in the third quarter with a quarter left to play.

    In the fourth quarter, the 49ers will pickup 10 garbage time points and the score will end up 38-10 with Rogers and company trying to be merciful and very classy, unlike Bruce Arians (who I love) and his “never let up philosophy.”

    38-10 Packers because the 49er run the hell outta the ball, Rogers and McCarthy are too classy to run up the score into the 50’s (which they clearly could), and the 49ers pickup meaningless points in the 4th quarter.

  177. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Ok Rob and Spit, gotcha.

    This is the first time we’ve had a solid vote for Niners to lose. The spread for Green Bay ranges from 37 (bakkentom), 30 (Phil), 28 (Spit), 13 (NJ) and 10 (Rob). We’ll see if the ‘mercy factor’ plays into it and GB holds back a little.

  178. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    YES York Must Go. But it won’t be voluntarily or soon.

    One thing us Dump York folks have going for us is the current inept coaches, GM and some of the 3rd rate players. Losses build up, Super Bowl sugar high wears off the child, next year starts off with shades of this year…fans will be screaming for his head.

  179. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas: L 10-40
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia: L 10-33
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona: L 10-20
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants: W 31-21
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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