Steelers 43, 49ers 18

Oooo! Ouchhh! Uncle! No mas!!

The 49ers absorbed their worst beating since the Mike Singletary era Sunday in Pittsburgh, getting squashed by the Steelers 43-18.

The game was a nip and tuck, see-saw 0-0 battle until the second Steeler possession, when Ben Roethlisberger discovered that nobody in the Niner secondary could cover Antonio Brown, who torched rookie CB Kenneth Acker all day long. And anybody else in the Niner secondary he felt like abusing. For the day, Brown had 9 receptions for 195 yards. Darrius Heywood-Bey and Marcus Wheaton joined in with 144 yards between them, giving the Steeler wideouts 339 yards for the afternoon. Roethlisberger had completions of 59, 56, 48, 41, 35 and 28 yards. Whew!

The 49er pass rush, not to be out done in ineptitude, contributed 0 sacks and 0 QB hits on the day. If Roethlisberger worked up a sweat, it would have been the only stains on his uniform.

On their part, the Steelers defense had five sacks, nine tackles for loss, eight QB hits, and five passes defended. Not too shabby from guys who were torched last week by the Patriots.

49er DB Antoine Bethea summed things up pretty well. “We need to clean up the things we did wrong & come out & play better next week.” Ya think?

This game was supposed to be a test for the Niner defense. Do they give grades below F? Next Sunday, the 49er offense gets a test against the Arizona defense. Let’s hope they perform with more distinction than their defensive teammates or this season will get long and painful in a hurry.

Former coach Jim Harbaugh was 11-1 in games in the eastern time zone, with his only loss a 2011 Thanksgiving defeat to the Ravens. Current HC Jim Tomsula vows to win the next 11 in a row to match Harbaugh.

It’s probably safe to surmise that the Jed York bandwagon, so full a mere week ago, has lost a few members after this debacle. And those still ensconced thereon are no doubt wincing a bit. Hey, cheer up York lovers! It’s only one game. The early season games can all be fluky. Plus, the team can’t get beat any worse, right?




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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It was reported that Minnesota did not know what to expect when they played the Niners and couldn’t counter with an answer to Carlos Hyde.

    Skeebs has a good point that according to the stats the Niners didn’t even hit Big Ben while in contrast Kap endured 5 sacks and 8 QB hits.

    Steelers took the film of one game and basically neutralized both the offense and defense.
    For the offense they went to the old formula to stop the run and make the QB beat them. When the Niners fell behind their pass rush pinned their ears back and sacked Kap 5 times.
    Their offense neutralized the playmakers on the Niner D.
    Bowman, Brooks and Lynch were non factors.

    Expect more of the same treatment from the Cards after they see film on the game. Fitzgerald caught 3 TD passes yesterday in the Cards victory.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    CBs in coverage vs. Steelers Antonio Brown: Kenneth Acker 6 of 6, 120 yards and Tramaine Brock 1 of 1, 56 yards, according to PFF.

  3. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    In my mind, that was totally an “acceptable” outcome. Why didn’t Jed take to social media last night to express his displeasure? Jed wants a teacher, right? I guess Tomsula is teaching the 49ers how to be humble… real humble. I love it. Harbaugh taught the 49ers how to be winners, how to hold their heads high, how to compete in the playoffs and how to stay in football games while making adjustments. Tomsula so far is teaching his players how to be really good losers and how to behave when getting blown out. Harbaugh never got blown out so his players didn’t need to experience it or handle it. Blow outs are all new to Niner players so Tomsula is actually doing some teaching. Guess Jed got what he was after.

    Jed York lovers are losers.

    No Winder around today? No Rob here trolling? Chuck and Reno on suicide watch? I love it. Niner homers – here’s your reality. If you want to deny this dose of reality, rest assured: there will be plenty more to come in the following weeks. HAHA.

    Jed York is the worst owner in football. Worse than Daniel Snyder.
    GO CARDINALS!!!

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Acker was getting torched yet they left him in and didn’t give Reaser a chance to cover Brown.
    It appears that Reaser didn’t get any snaps. Why not see what Reaser could do? It couldn’t have been any worse.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Cody Wallace who was a Niner draft pick that was cut because he was perceived as lacking physical strength, once described as being “ragdolled” by defensive lineman held his own as a replacement for the injured Pouncey.
    In 2 weeks I have seen 2 49er draft picks who are starting centers for other teams, Mike Person for ATL and Cody Wallace for Pitt.

  6. robNo Gravatar says:

    I love Jed york

  7. robNo Gravatar says:

    We will get better
    MUCH better

  8. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Some day.

  9. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Some year.

  10. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Some decade.

  11. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Some century.

  12. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Passes of 40-plus yards allowed by 49ers in 2014: 8. On Sunday: 4.”

  13. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    rob is the same guy that posted after yesterday he still likes the secondary.
    Is this on a personal level or based on performance?

    rob posted a bunch of stats last week. Will he do the same for this week?

  14. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke wasted $3mil on a one year contract for Shareece Wright
    who doesn’t even dress for games even though he’s on the 53 man roster.

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    rob sez “I love Jed York” It’s San Francisco, whatever floats your boat. You needed a replacement for Cox.

    rb sez “We will get better, MUCH better” When you hit rock bottom it can’t get any worse, nowhere to go but up.

  16. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “49ers offensive line has a Pass Blocking Efficiency rating of 66.3, which ranks last in the NFL.”

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    From Maiocco “The fumble originally charged to Carlos Hyde was officially changed to reflect a lost fumble for Colin Kaepernick”

    In Pyongyang N.K. chapter they are making excuses using that old chestnut that Steelers had more time to prepare. Chuckles and his minions are the new whining “the NFL is out to get us” replacing the old school Raiduh excuse makers.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap still wild with some basic passes. Still throwing balls forcing open receivers to dive for them when he can hit them in stride. In the 4th quarter he threw such a pass to Torrey Smith who dove to make the catch and came up gimpy and left the game.

    Eric Branch confirmed what I noticed
    “Smith exited with an apparent ankle injury in the fourth quarter and walked with a slight limp to the locker room after the game. Tomsula did not mention Smith when he discussed injured players.”

    Still a work in progress and highly erractic.

  19. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    NaVorro Bowman: “You’re comparing this team to what we had in the past.”

    Yes, we are. Looks like Bowman just admitted this team ain’t a contender.

  20. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Inman noted this which was overlooked in the rout.

    “It’s hard to believe the 49ers’ goal-line defense could be so generous, yielding three touchdowns to DeAngelo Williams on runs within 2 yards of the goal line.”
    ======
    The 49er run defense who once went an entire season with surrendering a rushing TD gave up 3 TDs yesterday.
    Things have changed as they turn the page.
    I don’t buy it’s a reloading situation but a renovation, mabe not a complete teardown but lot’s of work.

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    should read

    The 49er run defense who once went an entire season withOUT surrendering a rushing TD gave up 3 TDs yesterday

  22. winderNo Gravatar says:

    72-3 bronco’s

  23. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Glad to see everyone in such high spirits over here. Attaboy’s for all.

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    From Barrows

    The 49ers had to call two timeouts while deep in Steelers territory and were flagged for delay of game.

    “That’s inexcusable,” said coach Jim Tomsula, who made getting to the line of scrimmage and avoiding game clock-related mistakes a priority in the offseason.

    Tomsula said there was a different issue on each botched play. The 49ers had the wrong personnel group on one. The wording of the play call was off on another. On the third, Kaepernick couldn’t hear the call correctly, something the quarterback said was a bit of an issue throughout the game.

    “Quite frankly, one (interrupted play) was a good thing because Kaepernick couldn’t make the look,” Tomsula said. “He knew we were at a critical point right there. We didn’t want to squander that one.”
    =======
    Really a non issue as it happens to all teams in “the fog of war” Yesterday the Packers spent all 3 timeouts before the first quarter was over. It happens quite a bit if you’re paying attention.
    Those in Pyongyang N.K. chapter were making it a big deal in preseason when they weren’t using real bullets.

    The one play I’m critical about is the delay of game where Kap wasn’t aware again tha the play clock had hit zero and was still barking signals. Kap has to be better than that. He needs to pay attention as he’s responsible on the field for that.
    Did I mention they are still calling two plays as Kap yelled Kill, Kill just like Aaron Rodgers did yesterday.

  25. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Funniest thing Bullit has ever written, in the history of Bullit:

    “Rob said he likes the 49ers’ secondary. Is this on a personal level or based on performance?”

    GOOOOOO CARDINALS!!!!! My new favorite team? Whomever’s playin’ the Niners! Jed York blows.

  26. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    GB had success with UDFA’s being developed into quality starting CB’s, Sam Shields and one of the exiting FA’s this offseason where both played in their SB win.

    What was their GM’s secret? Both had a lot of speed. Ask TB and mangenius why Keith Reaser had 0 snaps on Sunday. The only DB that could have stayed stride for stride with Antonio Brown and DHB.

    Brock and Acker have to make it on technique. I still like the approach of developing bottom round DB’s and spending and high picks on pass rush. GB chooses bargain basement CB’s with speed.

    Worst case we go 1-15, sharing infamy with the Bobby Douglass Chicago Bears of the early 70’s. A running QB with a huge arm dislocation WR fingers.

  27. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Is Jimmy Ward faster than Reid and Bethea. Should he be the deep safety when playing these high powered pass attacks.

  28. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. Rumor has Brees with a torn rotator cuff and may be IR’d.

  29. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Tramon Williams the other speedy starting UDFA CB that G lost in FA. Davon House left as well. Packers first two picks were CB this year.

  30. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Late hits on RB legs when stopped and engaged should have quicker re whistles to stop the play? Hyde’s knee was almost Mario manningham’D by safety Mike Mitchell. Will there be an escalation of dirty plays by opposing teams when this crap happens.

    Wonder how much it would cost for a gang hit on Mike Mitchell.

  31. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    How is mangenius going to handle the speedy John Brown of the Cards. Reaser as CB and Ward as FS?

  32. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    This weeks winner in the Carnac Contest, Bakkentom, said:
    “Steelers 42 Niners 24. Without Pouncey they did OK so I guess they and the Packers have the best O still. Mangini’s flim flam will be exposed and scored on so will not use much of it this game”.

    Bakkentom was looking for an 18 point Steeler win but in a fit of generosity Niners forked over an extra TD on top of that to make it an even 25 point flattening. It was an exposure alright, an old fashion trouser dropping on television for the world to see. Shades of the Singletary era, last time we gave up more points, speaking of pants droppers.

    There will be little glory this year for the team but you, dear Outsider, have another opportunity to flash your pigskin prognostication prowess this week against AZ. Place yer bets gents, there are only 14 more opportunities this year to be brilliant in the Outsider Carnac Contest.

    Phil: 38-17 AZ. “Another pants dropper exposing our flabby, uh secondary. Not that our ‘primary’ unit, the DL, was in working order leaving Rothlesberger clean and untouched throughout the contest. Shades of Singletary”.

  33. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I can’t wait for the next two 49er games. I might even watch. It’s almost like Christmas. Jim Tomsula going up against Bruce Arians and Mike McCarthy? I’m giddy. I’m already wondering what Santa will leave for me under the Christmas tree. Could it be a 56-0 blowout against the Cardinals next week with Jed York’s twitter account going strangely silent?

    Could that blowout be followed up by a 48-3 drubbing against the Packers week 4? Could the team quit on York, Baalke and Tomsula after three blowouts in four weeks? Please, Santa! Please!

    It certainly looks to be a white Christmas in da Shire!

  34. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t know if covering Antonio Brown is a fair test for Acker. True, he couldn’t cover him but neither could anyone else who tried it yesterday.

    In fact he torched Malcolm Butler last week much worse, and he’s the hero of the Super Bowl.

    Roethlisberger to Brown is going to torch a lot of defenses this year. The best way to defense that is to hit or hurry the QB.

    Kaepernick, I thought, played very well despite his world crumbling around him.

    I’m usually pretty tough on him for his faults and screw ups so it’s only fair he gets credit when due.

  35. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear – The funniest thing I saw last night was Deion Sanders openly questioning how Antonio Brown got so far behind double coverage. I was thinking that double coverage was Johnson and Bethea, but it was Reid and Acker. I mean, on that play Brown as at least five yards past both Reid and Acker. Double coverage. Most teams that guarded Rice with double coverage at least had one guy near Rice. LMAO. Five yard behind? Double coverage?

    Here comes Santa Claus… here comes Santa Claus…

  36. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I agree with that, Spitblood. It was the safeties that got burned for Brown’s TD as well as DHB’s and Miller’s.

    I saw it and couldn’t believe it either. Rarely saw that when Donatell was here.

  37. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, it was Bethea who gave up the DHB and Miller TDs and Reid who gave up Brown’s.

  38. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Do not like the future of this team. CK prospects are 2nd or 3rd tier franchise QB. TB with his usual aversion to QB and WR will have high picks go to OLB, ILB, and Oline. Those are his comfort zone.

    Forecast is a mediocre O next season. OLB to replace Aldon will be pick 1. York money says rookie salaries for OLB and CB so he can do his California Democrap crony capitalist elitist laughathon of taxpayers and voters.

  39. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Bakkentom: “I do not like the future of this team.”

    No shit? Is this your first day on the Outsider?

  40. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Bakkentom asks:

    “Will there be an escalation of dirty plays by opposing teams when this crap happens.

    Wonder how much it would cost for a gang hit on Mike Mitchell.”

    $250 or P14,000 over here.

    Tempting but he’s over there damnit

  41. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “49ers open as 6-point underdogs in Arizona Sunday.”

  42. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This is the end of the last series that ended up with no points
    Sequence of plays from bottom up

    4th&3 at Pit 3

    (2:40) Colin Kaepernick rush to the right for 2 yards to the Pit1. Tackled by Bud Dupree.

    4th&3 at Pit 3

    (2:40) San Francisco 49ers timeout.

    3rd&3 at Pit 3

    (2:44) Colin Kaepernick incomplete pass to the left intended for Anquan Boldin.

    2nd&3 at Pit 3

    (2:48) Colin Kaepernick incomplete pass to the left intended for Anquan Boldin.

    1st&6 at Pit 6

    (3:16) Mike Davis rush to the right for 3 yards to the Pit3. Tackled by Lawrence Timmons and Ross Cockrell

  43. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Before that sequence in the 3rd quarter the Niners ran 7 plays from the Steeler 3 yard line and couldn’t score. 3 runs and 4 passes culminated by Miller not possessing the ball for an incomplete.
    In past years it was the playcalling. Except for Chryst those guys are gone. Now it’s Chryst and Kap. Who’s to blame on this one other than Miller?

  44. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    The defense.

  45. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I guarantee that six point dog is going to turn into 9.5 by game time. Nobody in their right mind would bet Niners to cover. Right now Vegas is seeing so much action on the Cards they are considering pulling the Niner / Cards game bet down. What’s the biggest opening line spread ever? Two touchdowns?

    Two. hundred. fifty. seven. to. nothing. Cards.

  46. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    IMO Steelers sent a clear message to the Niners when they went for 2 right off the bat after the first TD.
    It seemed the Niners just didn’t have an answer for what the Steelers were doing.
    Some are deluded into thinking that it was closer than the final score indicated.
    It’s been 6 years since the Niners were thrashed like this.

  47. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I knew it. I knew Tomsula would be stuttering and stammering. Tomsula’s Monday press conference…. “After week one there were a lot of guys crowning us?” Uh, Jim? No there weren’t. Who was crowning the 49ers? Oh wait. My bad. Winder, Rob, Unca and Reno were actually crowning the 49ers. Tomsula’s right. My bad. But he was still stuttering….

  48. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t think the game was closer than the score. If anything I think the final score made the Niners look better than they played.

    The score at half-time is what the game looked like throughout. Our best play was a single FG.

    I can easily imagine what the criticisms of the HC and his staff would have been under the previous three regimes. Today, not a whimper from the usual suspects.

  49. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    On the 17 play drive that resulted in a FG.
    Pears was called for holding moving the ball back t the 20
    1st and 20 from the 20 Kap throws to T Smith for a 3 yard loss
    2nd and 23 from the 23 Kap completes a pass to Hyde for a 4 yd loss
    3rd and 27 from the 27 false start James Harrison penalty accepted
    3rd and 22 from the 22 Kap sacked for 7 yds
    3 plays run from scrimmage resulting in 14 yds of losses with a holding penalty 10 yds.

    That would be called as feeble an offense thathas not been seen in years. Very hard to run 3 plays and and not gain any positive yardage.

  50. robNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry guys but I still like our secondary. IMO the biggest problem vs. Pittsburgh was pass rush.
    Or lack thereof.
    Want stats BULLIT
    what was it like sacks 0
    hits on their QB 0
    IMHO we’re really hurting without the Smith brothers in there

  51. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Stuff that rob said
    “btw guys I think we have a better secondary than when we went to the superbowl in 2012!”

    “we’re 4th in total defense and 6th in total offense after week one !”

    “I hope we can keep it going . btw harbaugh’s rankings on offense 2014 – 20th 2013 – 24th”

    Damn rob you cherrypick stats from one game and act like the team won the Super Bowl. I know you easily get excited.
    Comparing a single game stats to two seasons? Really rob?

    Let me explain to you how yards are not a valid measure of an offense when your team has a superior defense. Simply put it’s the short distances a team has to go to score because of he superior field position an elite defense gives a team.
    Starting from the 50 yard line affords you less yardage in total offense.
    You’ve been watching football for at least 20 years. Why can’t you grasp this?

  52. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    rob sez

    “IMHO we’re really hurting without the Smith brothers in there”

    That horse has left the barn. Deal with it.

  53. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Fun to watch Frank Gore tonight. Go Colts!

  54. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Look for their GM Grigson or drugged owner Irsay to stab HC Pagano in the back.

  55. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    At least Irsay’s tweets were hilarious. They’ve got a muzzle on him now.

  56. robNo Gravatar says:

    Am I wrong or did someone just infer to me that the reason we’re sustaining longer drives and are 4th in the league in total offensive is because our defense isn’t as good ?

  57. robNo Gravatar says:

    Am I wrong or did someone just infer to me that the reason we’re sustaining longer drives and are 4th in the league in total offense is because our defense isn’t as good ?

  58. robNo Gravatar says:

    More stuff ROB said
    Yes I STILL like our secondary

    And “dealing” with the loss of Justin and Aldon’s meltdown is something we’re all doing right now

  59. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The team dealt with the loss of Aldon for the past two years, Rob.

  60. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Rob – The reason we aren’t good on offense is because Montana retired.

  61. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Frank Gore looks like he’s 24 tonight.

  62. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    rob still likes the secondary but he loves Jed York

    did I get that right?

  63. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Rob’s a tool. Don’t give him your time.

  64. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Andrew Luck doesn’t look good…

  65. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Colts are a Greg Manusky defense.

  66. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Their secondary might be as bad as ours.

  67. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It is without Vernon’s little bro.

  68. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    People make a lot of Trent Baalke’s connection to Bill Parcels, but I’ll tell you one thing – If Parcels saw Baalke let Iupati walk in favor of signing T Smith to a similar deal, Parcels would take Baalke out behind the woodshed. Anyone here old enough to remember Ohio State’s Terry Glenn getting drafted by the Patriots’ front office and Parcels hating the move, referring to Glenn as “her?” That was around the time Parcels coined his famous line, “If you want me to prepare the dinner, I should be able to shop for the groceries.” Parcels and any other half-wit GM knows that wide receivers are the dead last piece of the puzzle you purchase.

    It’s these kind of moves that I think Harbaugh disagreed with that lead him to say, “I want this exact same team back next year and I don’t care what the front office says.” Disputes between coaches and front offices happen more than you know, and it’s almost always the head coach that’s right. Kyle Shanahan is rumored to have left the Browns because the Browns were dictating to the coaching staff that Johnny Football Manziel had to start. Even though Manziel played well last week, it’s clear he’s not ready yet. Shanahan was right, and I’d take one Shanahan as my coach over twenty Manziels on the team. Coaching is more important.

    So here we have Baalke and Jed York making really stupid moves like bringing in Bethea and Gabbert and losing Whitner, or like letting Delanie Walker, Ted Ginn and Randy Moss all go to start Kaep’s first full year as a starting qb (that was geneous). Or letting T Brown go for… Aker? Johnson? Cost cutting moves are great if you have viable replacement options.

    Then there’s the Baalke draft picks – Let’s go ahead right now, already, and add Jimmy Ward to the long list of Baalke blunders. Jimmy Ward, AJ Jenkins, LaMicheal James, Vance McDonald, Cory Lemon (I changed his last name). The entire 2012 draft. Aldon Smith (other teams knew Aldon was a head case and passed). And the list goes on and on and on…

    So then the ultimate insider in John Madden says publically, “It’s easier to find a suit,” and that, above all else, should have tipped us off that there was an internal dispute between Harbaugh and the choices the front office was making. It was not about personality clashes. If you read this, and it’s making sense to you, the thing you must understand that I understand is that Harbaugh is a fantastic talent evaluator. He can evaluate good players, coaches and even GM and front office people. Harbaugh didn’t leave because he didn’t get along with Baalke or York. Harbaugh left because Baalke and York made terrible football decisions. Those football decisions are what have taken the 49ers from Super Bowl contender just two years ago to this current collection of excrement that a pretty average Steeler team just trounced. That’s on Baalke and York. It’s not on anyone else.

    Tomsula is now taking the heat, but where are Baalke and York? They used to be so “available.”

    This year’s team is Baalke’s exhibit A. The team can’t stop the pass and they can’t run the ball enough to sustain drives. The only hope this team has of winning more than four games is if by some miracle the offensive brain trust decides to create elaborate running schemes to chew clock. Forget Kaep. I’d go with ten BIGS (ten of the 49ers’ biggest players and make them play WR, TE, QB) even having a backup lineman play qb so he can pull and block after he hands the ball off. Ten Bigs and Carlos Hyde. No passing and try to chew clock. That’s the only chance this team has this year of winning more than four games. Why? Because it’s like I wrote earlier this off season – If you can’t run the ball on anyone to control the clock, and your secondary leaks like a sieve, you have no chance.

    It’s not Tomsula’s fault. It’s not Colin Kaepernick’s fault. It’s not Jim Harbaugh’s fault. The blame is placed squarely on two people – York and Baalke. And they are both so bad that I’ve walked away from this 49er team for good until Jed York is gone.

  69. winderNo Gravatar says:

    ok, so that’s why so many wr’s get picked in the top 20, all the gm’s are stupid.

  70. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Winder, some of them are. Why did the Bills choose WR Watson and gave up two 1st’s when they do not have a quality passing QB that can utilize that weapon.

    So TB may get up to two 1st’s for CK who gives them a tease as a QB that can bring out the best in Watson.

  71. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    We have a treat. Recently discovered video of a former poster’s earlier dalliance with a potential showbiz career. The guy was a dummy and he shows you can’t take that away from him.

    https://youtu.be/aBib8WFS8g8

  72. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    So which GM wins here: Atlanta vs Buffalo vs SF. Falcons gave up a lot to pair Julio Jones with Matt Ryan. Buffalo moved up to get Watson and gave up their 1st in the following year to waste Watson with ????? as QB. We used our high 1st #10 to pair Crabtree with Alex Smith.

  73. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    So that explains the incoherence, Chuck Wood is Unca Chuck. Who is pulling his puppet strings. How can a dummy get drunk and post to a blog.

    Why would a dummy choose the niners to follow, rather than any of the other 31. A lobotomy on a dummy?

  74. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Pretty subdued over there on the Homer blog this week. “Cancer blog looking for the gas pipe”. More like Homer blog looking for the tail pipe. But they forgot to turn on the engine.

  75. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Winder – You’re missing the point. Where a wide receiver is picked in the draft is irrelevant to my argument. Any team can pick a wide receiver first overall and I’m fine with it if the team is complete.

    A perfect “for instance” was the Falcons taking Julio Jones. The Falcons already had a complete team. Under Mike Smith they had a defense, offensive line, rushing attack and a qb. So they traded up and got Julio because all they needed was a dominant wide receiver. Julio was the last piece, and that’s the right way to do it. You don’t go out and get a great wide receiver if your O line sucks. That’s GM 101.

    Ask yourself this, Winder – is Torey Smith really going to be maximized as a wide receiver without an O line, or would Mike Iupati have helped Carlos Hyde develop quicker? That’s pretty obvious.

  76. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    bakkentom

    I cannot confirm that identity due to privacy concerns. That would explain his obsession with bags of dicks because of his encounters with the pencil sharpener. He always carries a spare.

  77. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Dunno how a dummy can perspire, but just the mention of a pencil sharpener has to bring on the cold sweats.

    So when he had his last tirade here, was it the dummy or the puppet master throwing his voice. Inquiring minds want to know.

  78. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Irsay wants to go big game hunting and not waste Luck. Grigson and Pagano booted? Nick Saban bring in his own staff.

    Jed still stuck with the crumbs. Will he outbid for the best. NJ, does Gamble know QB and WR. A co-GM with TB.

  79. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In Pyongyang N.K. chapter the usual clowns are making excuses of the short week and the schedule, travelling to the East Coast being the cause for the blowout..

    Actually the Niners caught a break because in 2 weeks they get back Bell their #1 RB and Bryant their #2 WR.

    All of a sudden the lame excuses come out. All of a sudden it dawned on the clueless that drink the Kool-Aid that this defense could sure use Justin and Aldon Smith.

  80. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    We have been figured out. CK and OC have to gameplan around the right side Oline. Is Brandon Thomes fully recovered yet or hasn’t got the technique and adjustments down yet.

    Major problem is lack of pass rush. The QB’s we face can make us pay for blitzing. Disguising coverage leaves the safeties with little time to get back. We are as bad as the bottom 5 in pass rush last year.

    Have to wait for young guys like Armstead and Harold to get better.

  81. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Irsay is a fool for blaming Chuck Strong. The Colts have never had a championship caliber offensive line since Luck’s arrival.

  82. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Haven’t had a defense, either. Manning also rarely had one.

  83. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Look for more blitzes on Kap since the OL has if anything regressed from last year in pass pro. Now dead last in NFL. A Davis retires (quits) and GM response is Pears at Tommys urging and the Devey reject from Pats. No Evan Mathis but GM busted ass and got Trent (nice name) Brown in 7th round. Repeat, in 7th round. Regression but that’s not news. We/OL can’t block anyone- see DEN in preseason- so Kap will face blitzes, pressure all season long. Unacceptable. Inexcusable.

    Hyde will be out soon due to Chryst/GM infatuation with one dimensional O = steady diet of run game which is now Hyde and one rookie Mike Smith. AZ game will tell us if the OC is smart enough to mix up the O with effective passing attack. Even Kap said “We started passing too late against Steelers”.

    Idiot owner, incompetent GM building an O, rookie coaches hopelessly outclassed equals a very dubious squad going on the road against a tough D in AZ.

    Don’t get me started on the D scheme of playing our safeties closer to the LOS and giving up 5 long bombs to speedy receivers.

    Time for a cuppa joe. Thanks for listening, ugh.

  84. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, Skeebers, but Manning definitely had an O line in Indy.

  85. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    True. Indy’s had the luck to draft back-to-back HOF caliber QBs, but they never surround them with good defense. And now, no O-line, either. INEXCUSABLE!

  86. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    This draft in 1st RD a T.Y.Hilton WR clone instead of Oline or DLine they badly need. A RT should have been pick 1.

  87. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Manning had a decent defense in Indy with Freeney, Mathis, Sanders and Bethea in their prime. All of Manning’s teams, however, were better than the teams Irsay has had around Luck. Luck right now has Moncrief, Allen and Vonte. That’s not gettin’ it done. And this definitely isn’t a Chuck Strong issue.

  88. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Cowboys make a trade with Bills for QB Matt Cassell.
    Makes you wonder why Weeden is on their payroll if they have no faith in him as a backup.

  89. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Rookie RB Mike Smith” should be Mike Davis.

    “A RT should have been pick 1″…same for us. Maybe 2nd round

  90. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jed and the Niners were so eager to drop their pants and put on black unis.
    This has gone unnoticed until now and is an indirect shot at the 49ers.
    Still waters do run deep. I said it from the start that if you know the history between these two team you would never put on a black uniform. They aren’t the Niner’s colors.

    The Raiduhs refuse to color their 50 yard line in gold because they hate the Niners.

    Chuckles thinks it’s no big deal as does his lackey Rob.Te Raiduhs have made it a big deal.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/22/raiders-refuse-to-put-gold-markings-on-field/

  91. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit – That’s a stupid argument – no offense. Nobody knows why the Raiders aren’t coloring their 50. For all anyone knows it’s because Mark Davis is honoring his late father who was slighted by the league. Colors are the least of the 49ers or Raiders’ problems.

  92. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Spitty

    I disagree and I think the black uniforms are just an attempt to bleed more money from fans.
    Eddie didn’t like the black because the red is iconic.

    It’s like the NY Yankees trying to get rid of their home pinstripes.

  93. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve lived in the East Bay and also worked for companies with a great deal of Raduh fans.

    When they ask about the change to black I have no answer.

    Face it, it’s their primary color.

  94. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    What’s the best description of the Niners problems?

    A. Owner is an imbecile coddling loser allergic to winners
    B. GM clueless on personnel matters including hiring coaches
    C. Coaches way over their heads
    D. Team reverting to its history of pants dropping
    E. All of the above/supply your own description here

  95. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Ragnar the guy in the Viking costume at their home games is holding out for a bump in pay. He makes $1500 a game and now wants a raise to $20,000 a game.

    I think the Vikes will find another fat hippie to dress up at a cheaper wage.

  96. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bakkentom, you asked about Tom Gamble.
    He’s a guy that worked with Baalke prior to taking the job in Philly.
    Not sure what capacity he held in Philly or, his involvement with the Draft process under Roseman.
    It’s been written that he and Chip were pretty close and, there was some division between himself and Roseman while there.

    How Jeff Lurie decided to send him packing in favor of Kelly is a head scratcher to me.

    Since he had success with Baalke in the past, I think it’s a good reunion for us going forward.
    Time will tell of course but, their prior relationship probably makes the most sense from a communication perspective.

    Gamble has ties to Polian and the Colts along the way too.

    Some background on Gamble –

    http://tinyurl.com/qe5xy7y

  97. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    NJ – “Time will tell, of course.” Hey… nimrod. Wake up and smell the coffee. That “time” you refer to is upon us. Baalke’s exhibit A just lost by 30 points. You gonna give him 12 more years to figure it out?

  98. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Spit I’m not the guy paying his salary.
    You think Jed will do a better job without him right now?

    Gamble and Baalke had a good relationship prior to his departure to Philly.
    It’s all about communication and cooperation at this point.

    You rag about the Parcells connections but, guess what, Belichick and Sean Payton are connected through the same network.
    There’s an accepted practice in this game, it’s called Coaching Trees.

    Walsh had a very good one with guys like Holmgren, Reid, Gruden and others.
    When Coaches change venues, they typically stay connected over the years for continuity sake.
    Not all of them make it to GM level expertise but, again, Belichick has done an excellent job handling the challenge while not wearing ‘a suit’.

    Go play Geneous in your Shire, nimrod.

  99. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Why you even bother to care is disingenuous anyway.
    You’re here to hang crepe paper, nothing else.
    I’m hoping for improvement.

    Doesn’t happen overnight when so many changes have been made.
    Replacing the Owner isn’t going to happen.
    Get used to that fact.

  100. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    As dismal and clownish as this season could be I’m not walking away from the team. No. From the owners, GM, some of the coaches, yes, done that. I’ll sit right here rooting for the team with eyes open and not trying to put lipstick on the pigskin. I’m sticking with my 38-17 AZ over Niners call for instance. Love to be wrong.

    But here’s where I agree with the recent assessment printed above about ‘how did we get here?’ from Spitwad:

    In his words: “Disputes between coaches and front offices happen more than you know, and it’s almost always the head coach that’s right…Coaching is more important..It’s easier to find a suit”

    “Cost cutting moves are great if you have viable replacement options… Then there’s the Baalke draft picks…there was an internal dispute between Harbaugh and the choices the front office was making. It was not about personality clashes.”

    “Harbaugh is a fantastic talent evaluator. He can evaluate good players, coaches and even GM and front office people. Harbaugh didn’t leave because he didn’t get along with Baalke or York. Harbaugh left because Baalke and York made terrible football decisions”.

    “It’s not Tomsula’s fault. It’s not Colin Kaepernick’s fault. It’s not Jim Harbaugh’s fault. The blame is placed squarely on two people – York and Baalke”.

    Bingo. I quote extensively as no one responded to this when first posted and these are the parts I agree most with.

    The cohesion of the 2012 Super Bowl Niner team has devolved into this edition which reflects amateurish ownership and poor player selection. “That’s on Baalke and York. It’s not on anyone else”.

    And there’s not an F-ing thing we can do about it but call it like we see it.

    37-17 AZ and 6-10 2015 Niners

  101. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Damn if I’m not shortchanging AZ: 38-17 over Niners NOT 37-17. Our guys score more than 21 I’ll be v happy but just don’t see a win on Sunday.

  102. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    You’re bloody well right, there’s nothing we can do about it. So what? Is that why anyone writes or reads here?

    Cheering like a clueless idiot for the sake of hope is just as valid, or invalid. It accomplishes nothing and moves the team not.

    Can you get on here and claim this team has a better chance of winning it all than the 1989 Niners and not be shot down by the most optimistic fanatic for being ridiculous?

  103. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It ain’t over till it’s over. It’s over.

    RIP Yogi.

    When you come to a fork in the road, take it.

  104. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil there’s plenty of room to speculate on the reasons it failed with Harbaugh.
    All I’ve attempting to convey through it all is, there’s a structure in place for every team in this game.
    GMs typically need to work with the HC to accomplish a common goal.
    If that dynamic failed, for whatever reasons, it puts an undue amount of pressure on the goal of success.

    Baalke didn’t select Alex Smith or Colin, (if we buy the reports that Harbaugh wanted Kaep).

    GMs look good when they land a quality QB to make things go.
    Belichick and Pioli were successful with Brady.
    The Parcells mantra has always been built around Defense.
    Hence, Baalke seems better suited to finding the Defensive pieces thus far.

    Like you, I’m a fan, hoping for the best of a bad situation.
    In the end, you need everyone pulling the rope in the same direction to be successful.
    If Harbaugh fought the Owner, and the GM, you get the results we’re living with now. Dysfunction.

    I’m about making a bad situation better, not worse.
    We’ve seen, heard, and read, a ton of speculation from every direction, about what did, or didn’t happen, with the relationships.
    As far as I’m concerned, it didn’t work to mutual benefit.
    Now they’re tasked with keeping the ship afloat.
    If the players buy into the new regime, and everyone can ignore the obvious distractions, maybe they improve.

    Again, time will tell where this goes in the coming weeks.
    Plans are great if they can execute them properly.
    Too many changes, across the board, to expect instant results going into week 3.

    We’ll never know what took place in the Draft Room during the Harbaugh/Baalke era either.
    But, again, every successful team typically shares a common vision on what’s being built.
    If that didn’t occur with the 2 of them, (as it appears), it was only a matter of time before it imploded.

  105. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    When your best defensive player says this
    ““I made the plays that I could,” Bowman said. “They threw the ball over my head several times and I can’t do anything about that. I got the right calls made and I did my job.”

    Bowman refuses to put lipstick on the pig like some of the more optimistic fanboys.

  106. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    So you’re still buying the York/Baalke Kool-Aid that this is a reload situation and not a rebuild?
    Is Baalke turning a blind eye to the Oline being a problem with his band aid additions?
    The CBS are all late round picks. Shareece Wright has proven so far to be a waste of $3 mil. Bringing T Brown back would have been a better move as he starts for the Pats.

    To me this is a rebuild and I don’t buy what they are trying to sell.

  107. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I’m not a Kool-Aid drinker.
    I’m trying to make sense of the process from afar.
    What team can hold all these loose ends together in this situation?
    It’s been a disaster of epic proportions.

    Pears was an obvious attempt to plug a glaring need to replace AD.
    There’s no guarantee that a Rookie at any position can step in on the OLine or Secondary to fill these holes.

    I don’t see a problem getting younger in the Secondary but, they’ll need help from the front 7 to cover the learning curve.

    Antoine Bethea was a late RD Pick too.
    I don’t find fault with taking some chances if Scouting suggests they can succeed.
    There are plenty of higher RD Picks that fall short too.
    Coaching changes, scheme changes too, all play a part in what develops.
    It’s all changed.
    No cake walk for any of us.

  108. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Philly is going through the same OLine pains as well.
    Seattle isn’t faring much better.
    We’re missing a key piece in Kilgore, along with a Zone Blocking change.
    It’s all gotta gel and we’re not there yet through 2 weeks of action.

    I can’t speculate whether a Rookie could have answered any questions for us right now.
    Baalke has his work cut out for him, regardless whether he calls it reloading or rebuilding, it’s gotta get fixed.

    I liked OT Erik Flowers myself, who the NYG snagged.
    He’s having his issues as well.
    Nothing is automatic with Draft Picks.
    One thing is certain, your odds of success as a GM, are greatly improved when you Draft in the top 10.
    If we suck badly enough this year, we’ll be in the top 10 next year.

    I have no problem improving the trenches.
    I’d lean toward those areas right now if the Draft were being held now.
    Look at the NYJ.
    Geno sucks, but they’re stacked on the DLine now.

  109. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Hindsight says they should have taken Marcus Peters CB instead of Armstead simply because they had quality and quantity at the position. Peters has turned out better than Wayens who can’t get on the field yet.

    All the reports said Pears was terrible and they were right. Tomsula likes him because he played in NFL Europe. Is that how we’re going to select players going forward?

    The two perceived weaknesses on this team are the secondary and the Oline. They are both staffed by late round picks which basically means Baalke neglected to make the weaknesses a priority.

    Andy Lee is averaging 55 yards a punt and his net is 6 yards better than Pinion. I realize they saved $3 mil with that move but how is it benefitting this year’s team because we are sitting on $13 mil of cap room. The key is how does this help in 2015?

  110. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20.
    Given the loss of Justin, Armstead was rated as a better prospect perhaps?
    Problem there is, it’s a tough spot to expect instant production simply because of the conditioning aspect of the position.

    If Tomsula lobbied for the Pears signing, I’ll assume he fit what was being designed for the OLine.
    Harbaugh was a Power Run guy.
    Iupati and Davis fit that model.
    Again, we’ve revamped the entire scheme there too.
    Foerster had success with this scheme so, we’ll see how quickly they can get it corrected.
    Our best OLineman Staley got dinged for 2 sacks in Pittsburgh.
    Boone whiffed on a couple of assignments too.
    Both the OLine and DLine looked like garbage last week.
    Safeties blew communications as well.
    All around, we deserved what we got.

    Let’s see what they do collectively to straighten it out.
    Gut check time.

  111. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Our Offense in the Red Zone still blows as well.
    Miller gave away a TD.
    Boldin dropped a big gainer too.
    Plenty of blame to go around.

    Easy to see the problems.
    It’s all about correcting them that matters to me.

    Pinion is contributing on KOs too, which will help Phil as the season wears on.
    Lot’s of moving parts in this game.
    We’ve just been saddled with way more adversity than most in terms of changes.

  112. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It was largely self-inflicted, NJ49er. Hard for me to make excuses for the guys that brought it all down and tried to make it sound like it was Harbaugh’s fault.

  113. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    OT Jake Long was a high Pick himself, who broke down very early on.
    This game isn’t easy on the body.
    I give props to guys like Staley, Anthony Munoz, Willie Roaf and Jackie Slater who succeed at staying healthy and playing at a high level.

    Pears isn’t in that conversation talent wise but, I’ve read that he was moved from OT to OG in Buffalo.
    Now he’s coming back to OT on another team.
    One thing that matters is playing time within the same group.
    We don’t have that luxury right now.
    60% of the OLine is new and, Boone flipped sides.
    Total meltdown last week.

  114. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I can’t disagree with that NoFear49er.
    Self inflicted wounds or dysfunction, it all adds up to what we’re dealing with now, trying to make it better.

    I’m not here to pile on Harbaugh.
    He did what we hoped he would do, get things corrected after 8+ years of futility.
    Sad that it came to what it did.
    Jed owns that decision.
    I’m simply hoping everyone that chooses to be here, pulls in the same direction, to get it functional again.

  115. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It doesn’t seem Jed is pulling in that winning direction and Baalke either, at least as far as managing the team.

    If the team is a toy for Jed and all he wants running it are yes men to feed his ego, I’m not on board with that.

    If he wants everyone to pull in a winning direction he fired the wrong guy.

  116. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We’ll see where it goes NoFear49er.
    I’d have wished it all could have been ironed out amicably.
    Instead, here we are.
    Trying to make sense of it.

  117. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And to quote Yogi…
    “It ain’t over ’til it’s over”….
    “The future ain’t what it used to be”….

    RIP Yogi.

  118. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    I won Phil’s contest last week. This week’s prediction? It’s a shocker!

    Two. Hundred. Fifty. Seven. To. Nothing. Cardinals.

  119. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    The truth is the Steeler defense them Niners faced is not that good. There are a handful of names that I recognize including an over the hill James Harrison who has been drifting among teams in the NFL since his Super Bowl star performance. With Polamalu gone there are no big names in that secondary.
    The Steeler D had speed and were prepared for Hyde trying to reverse field and were waiting for that.
    Similarly the Cards defense the Niners face is even faster with a superior secondary. Cards might have the fastest pair of safeties in the NFL.
    This will be a test as will the other defenses the Niners face in Sea and St Louis who compose 6 of their future games.

  120. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    CK looked his worst as DB-WR seperation got smaller. This will test how fast and far in his progressions and throwing the receiver open, back shoulder throws, and throwing into tight coverage and avoiding the interception.

    With tight coverage, important to have a RB so where around the pocket if all receivers are covered or cannot find the open receivers. Obviously the more scrambling the more chance of injury.

  121. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This article from SI Fansided gives perspective on how the 49ers
    arrived to their present state.
    http://goldengatesports.com/2015/06/07/san-francisco-49ers-front-office-egos-destroying-franchises-proud-legacy/

  122. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This article points out that Big Ben averaged 13.7 yards per completion last Sunday which is eye opening. The final score does not tell how dominant the Steeler offense was or how inept the Niner’s D was to stop them.

    http://tinyurl.com/qdxnu3a

  123. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    BASG says Cards give up only 3.4 yds on ground but 7.5 in air and so far seem like a bend don’t break D so far. So forget establishing run then play action to help on pass coverage. Gameplan CK as a pocket passer this game. Stop forcing Hyde and ZBS into strong run D’s.

    With TB and Gamble, they have NO track record of successfully drafting and developing strong passing attacks. Very depressing but looks like CK will be the franchise QB.

    This year is all about developing players so wins are secondary. For me 1-15 is best.

  124. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Remember the 1990’s and the big Oline pushing around the niners DLine at will. We are using ZBS to allow smaller and more athletic lineman to help off tackle runs and pass pro.

    Kilgore is small around 300 lbs. WO Iupati and AD, ZBS was chosen as default. ILB speed needed to defense zone read runs. PIT had that. We are not going to do well between the tackles.

  125. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Not so good news, Kam Chacellor has caved and apprantly misses the weekly game checks.
    He will no doubt start for the Seahags who face the hapless Bears with Jimmy Clausen at QB.

  126. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit the Steelers D may not be of Dick LeBeau levels at the moment but, they were well rested, and much better prepared than we were last week.
    ZBS seems to have our reconstructed OLine looking more confused and out of sync than showed vs MN.

    As a fan, I’m looking for some progress week to week.
    That certainly wasn’t the case this past week in Pittsburgh.

    Crabtree owned Patrick Peterson while playing in recent years.
    Hoping a faster guy like Torrey can keep that matchup tilted in our favor.
    However, if the OLine isn’t better prepared this week, it’s likely more of the same waiting to occur.
    If nothing else, I’m hopeful that the Antonio Brown experience, will wake up our Secondary to the speed factor vs John Brown this week.

    2 weeks in and we’ve looked like Jekyl and Hyde.

  127. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Fitzgerald caught 3 TD passes last week and had his best game in recent memory. Supposedly there are 2 other WRs on their roster who are as fast or faster than John Brown which is really scary.

    It is hard to change a mindset where under Harbaugh you went into games expecting to win and now if we beat the Cards it feels like stealing. That’s my honest opinion and again leads to the question I ask myself whenever I think 49er football “What the hell happened?”.

  128. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    I think the Cards play a version of the Niner “Big Nickel” defense where the Niner’s play a 3-4-5 the cards play a 4-2-5.
    What they have in common is the 5 DBs. Niners play Tartt and the Cards play 3 safties which makes their D extremely fast.

  129. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Our D from front to back:

    Lost Justin Smith, Ray MacDonald and added Armstead, rookie.

    Lost Aldon Smith, Patrick Willis, Chris Borland

    Lost Chris Culliver, Perish Cox and added Johnson, Acker, Reaser, and Tartt.

    Some of the players lost had injuries and suspensions. Jimmy Ward rookie played enough last season and Bowman not at all. In the balance we lost bodies and their experience.

  130. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In Pyongyang N.K. chapter, Fairyland Blog the propaganda is that
    all the defections and retirements would’ve happened with or without Harbaugh.
    I disagree as Patrick Willis mentioned in multiple articles that not only was he looking forward to returning but that he was working on talking Justin Smith into making another run at a Lombardi Trophy. My theory is winning a Lombardi seals the HOF for both Justin Smith and Patrick Willis. Both waited to assess the team’s chances both in hiring a coaching staff and looking at the team’s chances. IMHO if they believed the team had a reasonable chance they would have returned. This might be also true of Anthony Davis.
    The only guy that retires for certain is Borland for his fear of getting hurt.

    Some of the free agents that left would have stayed if they thought the team was going to be a Super Bowl competitor.

    http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/Patrick-Willis-Weighs-in-on-49ers-Coaching-Search-Justin-Smiths-Future/2926246b-5ae2-4835-9d66-97e7ba37599f

  131. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Shareece Wright is costing the Niners $3.2 mil for 2015 and he sits inactive.
    Perrish Cox is costing the Titans $3.3 Mil for 2015 and get a bump up to $5.2mil for 2016 1nd 2017

    Looking at 2015 I would opt for Perrish Cox who’s a much better CB

    Tarrell Brown signed for $2 mil a year and starts for the Pats.

    Baalke blew it going with Wright and the secondary would be much better with T Brown and Cox while grooming the yoingsters who are not ready to start.

  132. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Is that Cox as nickel back and Brock and Brown for outside corners. Swap T Brown for Shareece Wright?

  133. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners may try to play a “3-4-5” defense but it draws a penalty every time.

    Back in the day (Nolan) we would pull a DT to put in a fifth DB to keep all our LBs on the field. Nolan used a big nickel defense and some fans thought it was a joke. Now it’s the “new” thing.

    Adding a third safety as a LB/S hybrid instead of the more common nickel corner is what makes the big nickel the big nickel. Blitzer, cover guy, run support all in one.

  134. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    That ought to get Nolan-hating Rob texting furiously on his scooter. Look out Florida pedestrians. Menace on the sidewalks!

  135. robNo Gravatar says:

    Nolan is gone thank god

  136. robNo Gravatar says:

    Actually finding ways to get your best players on the field sounds kinda good to me. I assume we’ll be seeing Tartt and Tank more ?

  137. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Tank didn’t play all that much and neither did Armstead.
    They are in somebody’s doghouse because in blowouts your bench players should get more playing time.

  138. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Pyongyang N.K. chapter Fairyland blog denies their roots.

    “This is a sports blog, not some Left-wing commie site. Not sure why you being a ‘christian’ matters.”

  139. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Sad news for the hopeful:

    “According to ESPN’s Football Power Index, the Bears now have the highest chance to get the top pick in the 2016 NFL Draft at 27%.”

  140. robNo Gravatar says:

    My theory is Patrick wanted to come back and wanted Justin to do likewise.
    Unfortunately willis didn’t recover from his ailments and had to hang em up..
    That might have had some impact on Justin’s decision to hang em up too.

  141. robNo Gravatar says:

    Guess I should have added Patrick to my post the other day. Justin’s leaving and Aldon’s fatal meltdown really hurt

  142. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Patrick Willis would have played through the pain if he thought the team had a shot. That’s why his announcement was such a shock
    to everyone.
    Football is all about pain and if you can endure it. I remember when spraining an ankle how painful it was to put your foot into an ice bucket. These guys jump in and immerse their entire bodies into ice baths.
    It depends on priorities. Ronnie Lott chopped the tip off one of his fingers to try to help his team get a ring. If Willis and Cowboy thought the team had a good shot they would’ve stuck around.
    All theoretical and hopefully the truth will come out one day.

  143. robNo Gravatar says:

    Well BULLITT
    This shit storm was a bitch.
    Lots of factors came into play imo.
    Owner coach and GM friction
    Age (Frank)
    Cap issues
    Injuries (Patrick)
    Off field (Aldon , raymac)
    Hope the full we get through to the other side

  144. robNo Gravatar says:

    I mean hope the fukk

  145. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Cards are also getting back their starting RT Bobbie Massey
    who was suspended by the NFL for the first 2 games.
    If Iupati and Massey play then their Oline proves much tougher.

  146. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It appears that in Pyongyang N.K. chapter, Fairyland blog
    that illiteracy still permeates it’s leadership.
    Either a huge reading comprehension or an attempt to twist one’s words.

    It is Chuckles calling Willis a pussy. I never said any such thing and I stand by my post.

    Sorry Chuckles, everyone can read and formulate their own opinions.

  147. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Myles Jack LB UCLA the guy we were discussing tore his knee up in practice in a non contact drill and is out for the year.
    He was projected as a top ten pick but this seems like a Baalke value pick.

    Difficult to evaluate his recovery if he can’t work out for you pre draft.

  148. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like burger (sic) has adapted to his new hometown Pyongyang and decided to adhere to their ways of being a chickenshit and coward conveniently claiming he missed seeing the game which somehow saves him the embarrassment of making comments. It might be a mixed blessing to shut him up.

    I guess they don’t have DVRs, internet and highlights in Pyongyang when the Niners don’t do so well.

    Not sure about burger’s (sic) new approach when things don’t go his way

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibDMGxiyJw

    As a public service I am providing a link to the game highlights.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSdL2CPGPPg

  149. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Maiocco says

    “On final sack #49ers gave up on Sun, snap count was on two, but it was snapped on one. That’s why everyone was slow getting out of stances.”

  150. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit tough break for Myles but, I agree, steal him and stash him, if you get a positive medical on his rehab.

  151. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, I’m in a positive mood this week 😀

    Put me down for 28-24 SF

  152. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    A lot of posters said here before the Steeler game that if you blitz “Big Ben” you better get to him and put him on the ground or he’ll torch you. The Niners didn’t even get one QB hit on him
    and we know the end result.

  153. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Big Ben has elevated himself as top five and possibly top three.
    No denying his talent and really don’t care about his off field behavior because he’s been accused but not charged.

    Remember the fanboys make a big deal of Ben but forget Kap was also accused of something of this nature but was not charged so this is forgotten.

    You can’t have double standards because you like one player but not the other.

  154. NJ49ERNo Gravatar says:

    Ben is the ideal pocket QB Bullit.
    Big, sturdy and, plenty of arm.
    I’m hoping we utilize the TEs/RBs this week in AZ.
    Short game could work towards helping the OL.

  155. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Have to attack the with short passing game setting up some chunk plays to Torrey and VD. Vance MacDonald, Garrett Celek, and RB’S time to shine.

    Cards redo the Steelers plan. 48-31 Cardinals.

  156. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “RG Jordan Devey has allowed 9 QB pressures, third-most among NFL guards, per PFF_Jeff. Also Erik Pears is 3rd-worst run blocking OT.”

  157. robNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks SKEEBS for all the info
    You’re a real Ray of sunshine in all this
    Don’t know how I’d get by without you

  158. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Last reminder to vote now fer yer pigskin pronostication with our boyz in AZ facing the Div. leaders. There will be little glory this year for the team but you, dear Outsider, have another opportunity to flash your pigskin prognostication prowess this week against AZ. Place yer bets gents, there are only 14 more opportunities this year to be brilliant in the Outsider Carnac Contest.

    NJ49ER: 28-24 Niners. Phil, I’m in a positive mood this week.
    Put me down for 28-24 SF. I’m hoping we utilize the TEs/RBs this week in AZ. Short game could work towards helping the OL.

    bakkentom: 48-31 Cardinals. Have to attack the with short passing game setting up some chunk plays to Torrey and VD. Vance MacDonald, Garrett Celek, and RB’S time to shine.
    Cards redo the Steelers plan. 48-31 Cardinals

    Also somebody said 257-0 Cardz.

    Phil: 38-17 AZ. “Another pants dropper exposing our flabby, uh secondary. Not that our ‘primary’ unit, the DL, was in working order leaving Rothlesberger clean and untouched throughout the contest. Shades of Singletary”.

    Niner train for glory now departing AKA The Shitsville Express

  159. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Ok Rob your 24-20 Niners is officially recorded. Gotcha

  160. robNo Gravatar says:

    Know what PHIL
    Roll with that
    Just to be honest
    A 1-3 start might just be in the offing

  161. winderNo Gravatar says:

    22-18 Niners

  162. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    400 yds passing for Carson Palmer, lots of deep stuff to test safeties getting back from their disguising D. Carson and John Brown will try and do the same as Ben and Antonio Brown.

    Acker and Reid must be sick of seeing the back of a Brown name speeding away. Like a UPS truck using niners DB’s as a speed bump.

  163. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Saw this link just now = most ‘experts’ are predicting an AZ win but hey anything can happen:

    http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/Experts-Predict-the-Outcome-of-49ers-Cardinals-Game/16ef72f5-0e61-4ad7-8797-a5fc70dda685

    Would like nothing better than the Niners to be 3-1 at the quarter pole but don’t expect it really

  164. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Winder and NJ are calling for a Niner win again as they did week one. Can we shock the world again? Will we catch lightening in a bottle? Will Spitwad ever call for a Niner win?

    Riiiiight…

  165. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Nobody really thinks the 49ers will win in AZ. It’s nice to cheer for the team though.

  166. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I do.

  167. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Bravo Winder, NJ and Rob for your optimism. AZ is a tougher nut to crack than MIN but you guys had that one nailed. This would be a bigger upset against a better D, O and maybe coaching. Gotta bring the A game on the road especially our secondary as Bakkentom and others point out. We’re going to see a lot of deep passes testing our safeties and corners. If they can run on us with Iupati who will be motivated, Massey (?) it will make it tougher. Mangini going to have some adjustments as the ‘safeties closer to LOS’ didn’t fool one good passer. Also where was our pass rush?

    But I agree with NF: “Nobody really thinks the 49ers will win in AZ. It’s nice to cheer for the team though”.

    Love to be wrong here.

  168. bakkentomNo Gravatar says:

    Will take a QB performance like big ben. Colin hit rock bottom 2nd half last year. Finally making progress.

  169. Sir Spitblood from GeneoushireNo Gravatar says:

    Rob and Winder smoke crack. In all seriousness, the Cardinals are going to blowout the 49ers. Here’s my honest prediction – 42-6.

  170. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    If the Cardinals lose the game, predictions based on better performance, home field defense & offense, better players, better coaches and better QBs are meaningless.

    One may as well stand on the roof with arms crossed over puffed out chest and hope to change the path of a tornado or wildfire bearing down on you and yours as to hope all reality is suspended for three hours on Sunday for the Niners.

  171. winderNo Gravatar says:

    What that doesn’t work?

  172. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    IF after all the turmoil, changes to players, coaches, FO mularky and ownership meddling this team beats AZ on Sunday it will be a wild shock. Sort of like Moses (supposedly) commanding the Red Sea to part to allow team Israel to flee Egypt. IF it happens it will be a big surprise since unlike the OT (not Purcell) story we will know it really happened.

    But last week some of us said IF “Niners beat PIT…” we would get more interested in their prospects this year. We lose to AZ it will tell us a lot about the ’15 Niners and IF we would win…yikes.

  173. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe in Hawaii Winder, but not even Pele can ‘fix’ this one.

    Phil, traveling to a good team on a short week was seen, by me anyway, as a test of coaches and players preparing and game planning and executing under dire conditions. It would have proved something if they had won by actually outplaying the Steelers under those circumstances. Instead they laid an egg.

    The Cardinals are just the better team all around.

    I guess all their key players could be stricken lame and if we lined the right pockets there might be the slimmest of chances we could avoid playing ourselves into a loss.

  174. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners can win if Carson Palmer stinks up the place.
    Unlike the Steelers Palmer is far from being an elite QB.
    He has his bad days and you couple that with a less than reliable running game and the Cards are less than a sure win.

    Last Dec the Niners beat the Cards because the backup QB turned the ball over 3 times and that resulted in a 3 point victory with the Niners scoring a TD in the 3rd quarter and shutting the Cards out in the second half.

    Good team effort and it shoots down the unfounded theory that this team gave up on the coach. We know the ownership and the front office gave up on this team as they predetermined the coach was gone weeks beforehand.

    So catch the Cards on a bad day and they are beatable simply because Palmer is erratic especially when he was with the Raiduhs.

  175. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2018 Schedule
9-9: @ Vikings, 10:00 am Sun.
9-16: vs. Lions, 1:25 pm, Sun.
9-23: @ Chiefs, 10:00 am, Sun.
9-30: @ Chargers, 1:25 pm, Sun.
10-7: vs. Cardinals, 1:25 pm, Sun.
10-15: @ Packers, 5:15 pm, Mon.
10-21: vs. Rams, 5:20 pm, Sun.
10-28: @ Cardinals, 1:25 pm, Sun.
11-1: vs. Raiders, 5:20 pm, Thur.
11-12: vs. Giants, 5:15 pm, Mon.
BYE
11-25: @ Tampa, 10:00 am, Sun.
12-2: @ Seattle, 5:20 pm, Sun.
12-9: vs. Broncos, 1:25 pm, Sun.
12-16: vs. Seattle, 1:25 pm, Sun.
12-23: vs. Bears, 1:05 pm, Sun.
12-30: @ Rams, 1:25 pm, Sun.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
NJ49er: 6-10
Skeebers: 6-10
Bullit: 5-11
Mr Fletch: 5-11
RTFirefly: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Rob: 9-7
Winder: 4-12

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