As the QB Turns

The Super Bowl next Sunday will be a win-lose proposition for 49er fans. One of these despised franchises will have to lose the game, but one of them will have to win it, too.

We’ll either see Bill Belichick and Tom Brady trudge off the field with their third consecutive SB loss or we’ll see the Seahawks sulk away, hide from reporters, and none of them will be shouting and foaming in a roid rage at some poor TV reporter after the game.

If the Patriots lose, it means their offense has peaked, their defense has peaked, their coach and QB have peaked, and they should all be fired and replaced with a collection of nobodies and has-beens. Ooops. Wrong franchise. They’ll just come back next year and try again.

Ditto for the Seahawks. Both franchises have stable ownership and a modicum of sanity in the front offices. Also back next year to try again, with the same coaches and mostly the same players, will be the Steelers, Ravens, Colts, Saints, and Packers. What all of these franchises have in common, besides a grip on reality and a value for continuity, is terrific play from the QB spot.

As Frank Gore ruefully and reluctantly pointed out this year, in the NFL, offense all begins with, and goes through, the QB. The Greg Roman haters believe that he was the only thing wrong with Colin Kaepernick last year. And that a new OC will magically fix everything. If that were true, then Steve Deberg would have four SB rings right now, and not Joe Montana. As Bill Walsh said about Deberg, he was just good enough to get you beat. Right now, it would not be a stretch to apply those words to Kaepernick. He’s much more famous for his losses than his wins. And the wins came early in his career

Obviously, Kaepernick has far superior skills and talent than Deberg did. But Walsh knew Deberg didn’t have IT. And he knew there was no way he could teach IT to him. Of all the young hot shot QBs now in the league, Kaepernick has the least amount of IT. He is always a dangerous player who can make spectacular plays from anywhere on the field at any time. But he can’t consistently run an offense.

Kaepernick is 27 years old. He’ll probably never have the instinctual feel for the position that all great QBs seem to be born with. He can, however, learn how to function adequately in the pocket, read defenses, and develop the mental calm to go through his progressions and find an open receiver. The mental calm to realize game situations, first down markers, when to throw it away, and when to stay in bounds. Up to this point, he basically seems to play in a constant state of panic.

Kaepernick is down in Arizona now for eleven weeks, trying to learn pocket calmness from Kurt Warner. If the instruction bears fruit, the 49er offense will at least have a chance to succeed next year, and maybe for years to come. If the instruction is merely knowledge that disappears during the heat of a game, then the 49er offense will again be a frustrating thing to watch and the search for a new QB will/should be underway.




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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If you watched A Football Life: Bill Walsh the other night you would know that after the 87 season the Niners and Eddie thought about firing Walsh after losing to the Vikes in the playoffs. McVay and Policy talked Eddie out of it and instead demoted Bill by stripping him of being President of the Niners.
    In the offseason they talked about trading Montana and talked to San Diego, Denver and KC about it. In fact in a coaches meeting Walsh asked his staff what they thought trading Joe would bring back and asked them to write that down. As we all know the trade never materialized and was on the back burner for several years.

    The 88 season started with a QB controversy when Montana and Young sharing QB duties and the team off to a rough start of 6-5.
    Walsh had planned an atmosphere of “creative tension” but succeeded in dividing the team. He settled on Montana and the team took off and won the division and Joe to John Taylor beat the Bengals in the Super Bowl and Walsh retired, a move he later regretted.
    Bill Walsh was a brilliant man but he had his share of quirks and eccentricities. Not everything was in harmony inside the Niner locker room back then either.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    A point was raise last week that the apologist didn’t see any difference between Russell Wilson and Kap except for how they’ve been coached and offensive system they’re in.
    The apologist who made the statement is obviously blind to what matters in football. What Wilson has that Kap doesn’t is poise under pressure, pocket presence and full field vision. Wilson has “IT”. Kap has yet to find it except on occasion. Unfortunately waiting for those occasions can mean losing games that you should win.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Fewell has an offer to be the Niner DB coach but wants to talk to Redskins for leverage?
    https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/559783593564979202

  4. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Today’s rumor is Rams might trade for Foles per ESPN.
    Chip Kelly might be going all in to acquire his boy Mariota he would need to trade Foles to acquire assets.
    If this all comes down it might benefit the Niners if they could sign Sam Bradford to a reasonable deal as insurance to compete with Kap. If Rams take Foles in trade they would let Bradford go as he’s a FA.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap just sent an Instagram titled “Grind in Silence”
    Nothing silent about social media. I suppose he’s feeling the heat and feels like he has much to prove.

    http://instagram.com/p/yVRv2sNBF5/

  6. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Would you rather he posted selfies with a rolled up twenty from a Las Vegas bar bathroom?

    Jesus H Christ, this guy was the starting QB on the SB Niners in his first year starting. Then the NFCCG and a few inches from another SB in his soph season.

    Given the O-line’s and D’s repeated, obvious failures, it’s total overreaction to start going all Mark Sanchez on him at this point.

    He needs to erase one SB appearance and add about five years of pure suckitude to reach the level of incompetence a certain other Niner QB reached (he didn’t make the playoffs this year, btw, setting a dubious all-time NFL record in the process). Yet that excuse was vitriolicly defended on this blog for years. Still is.

    Total overreaction and hypocrisy.

  7. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    All true RT. But it was Kaepernick’s struggles that hurt the offense the most this year and lots of folks using this year’s record as the justification for York/Baalke to dump the HC along with the entire staff.

    Did you happen to catch the WWII Spy School piece on Smithsonian channel yesterday?

  8. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I guess some people would rather have seen Kappy just roll right and throw it out of bounds like his predecessor. Kappy’s responsible for quite a few miscues but he’s not designer of the offense and that’s where most of the problems lie.

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of The University of Texas their new Chancellor is Admiral William McRaven. He made this commencement speech prior to being named Chancellor. One of the better speeches you’ll ever hear about lessons learned.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxBQLFLei70

  10. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    “… and that’s where most of the problems lie.”
    How so, Winder?

  11. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    The former USSOCOM commander’s speech at his alma mater was pretty good. Sometimes one of those SEALs end up alright.

  12. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Nah, NF, I don’t get the Smithsonian Channel, just the basic crud. My Dad gave me a copy of “The Falcon anf the Snowman” when I was like 12, and told me it was required reading. Nothing would surprise me.

    Julia Child in the OSS?

  13. winderNo Gravatar says:

    The league figured out Harbs and he had nothing to counter with.

  14. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    That’s it, Winder, and the Jed/Baalke way of demanding rather than persuading was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I don’t think Harbaugh and Baalke were on the same page for years.

  15. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    It is telling that GRo is not at UM with Jimi. Yes Hendrix defended him against the FO apparently and against the media + fans but agree it was not a productive relationship towards the end. Time for a change there to evidently. Will be interesting to see how Roman does with the Bills.

    Also of course how OC X does with our men

  16. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Plus we will have NJ working for the Niner O as a consultant so there’s that positive…

  17. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Appreciate the props Phil.

    Jed can get me on the cheap if he’s interested.
    Being the Die-Hard 9er Fan from the other Coast, I’d be a work-a-holic for mere pennies on the dollar.
    Something I’m sure he’d appreciate.

    Heck, it turns out we had Chris Palmer, stashed away on the Offensive payroll, as well.

    Starting to look like we had too many Assistants and not enough strategists running this Offense.

  18. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Well NJ the test as always will be on the field of play. So we will see. Hard to have high expectations the way this is shaping up as many have said.

    I just think the Niners are being run like a family business- on a tight budget it seems. So how can we compete with the Paul Allens of the world or Robert Krafts? These men are not afraid to spend money to buy quality. They you have Jones and Snyder who are not afraid to spend money regardless of quality. Seems the star quality coach (despite his limitations) Hendrix was only tolerated for a few years.

    Hope I’m wrong but fear I’m not.

  19. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Regarding the documentary of Bill Walsh, I saw this in the comments @ NN (didn’t see the documentary out here) =

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/1/24/7882309/the-49ers-can-thank-paul-brown-to-some-extent-for-bill-walsh

    1) Walsh tried to quit after the 1982 season and move into the FO. He went so far as telling everyone on his staff to find new jobs and he named his replacement. Eddie D stepped in and talked him out of it.

    2) Walsh was extremely hard on himself and his players and staff. To the point where he was not well liked by the players. Mind games were his specialty. Only years later , after they quit playing, did they come around to him.

    3) Walsh called the blowout in SB 24 five minutes into the game. Telling Eddie D in the box, “This games over. They can’t cover anyone. It’s going to be a blowout.”
    4) Walsh called the first offensive play in SB 16 as a rub-in-the face to Paul Brown

    Yeah we’re better off without our recently departed winning coach. Sure we are.

  20. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil it’s hard to know what exactly took place within our FO and Jim.
    I do believe Jed paid Jim and his Coordinators a healthy wage by League standards.
    What amazes me is the number of Assistants carried on the Offensive Staff.

    Given the challenges of Drafting and developing a Pistol QB, perhaps there needed to be more Asst’s involved?

    Hard to know for sure.
    Opinions are what they are, varied and firmly held.
    I play the grey area, simply because, as a fan, I’ve got to treat it as a passion, not my business.

    Jed on the other hand, has to be more business-like.
    If employees aren’t producing or, resisting FO efforts to improve the product, things turn sour pretty quickly, which appears to be our recent scenario.

  21. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Agree with you in terms of seeing what becomes of the results on the field.
    Not much more can be done from those of us on the fan side of the equation.
    As always, hope is what drives us.

    By no stretch do I expect anything more than 8-8 at this point.
    Even that could be far-fetched, given all these changes.

    I’d be happiest if Kaep comes around, under a scheme he’s comfortable with.
    I think our best expectations are going to be continued reliance on a sound running game and Defense once again.

    We seemed to have lost our identity this past year.
    No heart on Offense, that I could find.

    Said it many times, lost between Pistol and Pocket.
    Hopefully a healthier OLine, a new Offensive approach and some expected returns from our Defensive leaders will rejuvenate better results.

    Tomsula will help with the Defensive transition.

    Our hopes lie with the future development of Kaep and, the scheme they hope for him to execute, under the yet to be determined OC.

  22. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes I’m very free to spend Yorks’ money as a fan so don’t think in business terms about the Niners. I do think it is quite possible to pay topnotch coaching talent and keep it up long term unlike us who were good for 4 years max. But you make good point that we had stalled this past year on O. Sadly York was unwilling to pay Jimi more after the SB game in early 2013. And after the 2013 season Hendrix was fair game via media leaks. I think we can agree those were from the FO and/or above. Silly line of speculation was that Jimi was making those leaks. Head scratcher there.

    Think it was a combination of personality conflicts and money to fund the large- and good- cpaching staff.

    Well we’ll see how the new boys do from as fan perspective. I’m sure Denise is happy with these right now tho

  23. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “By no stretch do I expect anything more than 8-8 at this point.
    Even that could be far-fetched, given all these changes.”

    I’ve been saying 7-9 for past month and 8-8 would be accepted, sure. Hard to see how we get more wins but of course would be delighted with even 9-7. How far have our expectations fallen. But it is what it is.

    Agree Kaps development and adequate coaching on both sides of ball will be needed to pull off 8-8 but that’s a guess. I’m concerned if the D will rally behind Mangini or “pull an O” and play poorly as the O did in 2014. Hope not but they might.

    What are your thought under best scenario for various games this year?

  24. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I suppose it’s possible that York/Baalke knew a year in advance all the injuries and holdouts on the o-line and Kaepernick regressing would lead to a good excuse for the back-stabbing and running the HC out of town rumor leaks a year before it happened, but I doubt it.

    I have yet to see the proof that Harbaugh wanted more money.

    I think it was more Harbaugh answering the media questions about free agents he wanted getting paid and who he thought should be re-upped. And not wanting to be told who he had to play and/or fit into his system.

    Fans say they want the truth and still see giving it as a good reason to dump a winner. Go figure.

    Not sure how telling it is that Roman wanted to stay in the pros, and did, without any trouble, instead of following Harbaugh. That would seem more like Harbaugh was the only guy who wanted him.

  25. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “I have yet to see the proof that Harbaugh wanted more money.”

    Yes NF ‘more money’ may not be the best way to put it but it was reported by both Hendrix and York after 2012 and 2013 that they met and could not agree on extensions- twice. Unlike J Jones who was quite willing to give his HC a million dollar raise and a 5 year extension after one playoff win.

  26. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NJ I listened to an old podcast from 12/30 where after venting for an hour about young York they discussed possible coaches starting at 1:0:00 approx. They mention that coach (Mahlzan?) as very good at college level but he has shown no interest in the NFL and vice versa.

    They speculate that the supposed rift with Balkey/Hendrix was a smoke screen and the actual conflict was York/HC FWIW. Favored Vic Fangio over Tommy boy. It’s dated now but was too sick of it to listen earlier.

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2014/12/30/7472469/better-rivals-podcast-remembering-jim-harbaugh-and-skewering-jed-york

  27. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “At 1:09:00 mark” that is

  28. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil it’s the age old dilemma of Employer/Employee I guess.

    My Dad had a great cliche he loved to use in his business years ago.

    “If you don’t like what I’m asking you to do for me, don’t take my money”

    Pretty safe to assume, Jim and Jed didn’t dine out much together, if we take all these reports we’ve been feasting on over the past couple of years.

  29. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I haven’t analyzed the schedule very closely yet, simply because home vs away match-ups will sway my decisions some.

    It’s not a very favorable venue, I’ll say that much.
    Hoping Seattle takes a whoop’n in terms of FA and Coaching losses.
    Might even the playing field just a bit for us if they have to regroup after the expected loss of Quinn.

    I’m most concerned for our OC hire.
    He can either catapult Kaep into another level of production or, confuse him enough to stunt his growth even further.

    We’ll see where that road takes us soon enough.

  30. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The thing that impressed me most about Malzahn from Auburn was, his creativity in marrying the Spread and power running game.

    It almost sounds too perfect for our situation.

    I believe that’s right in our wheelhouse, in terms of needs for Kaep.

    I’d prefer an innovator, in the Bill Walsh mode I guess.
    Someone willing to find another way to attack the Offensive traditions.

    One that Kaep can grasp more easily than simply ‘not running’.

    Felt for quite awhile that the WCO timing would help him.
    That requires good communication between Receivers and QB.

    Each guy needs to think in unison.
    One mental clock, one brain, shared among the rank and file.

  31. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yes NoFear49er, your thoughts on Roman and Harbaugh is a curious one.
    Gets me leaning away from Roman, just a bit, in terms of, ‘Who’s Offense was it”?

    Seems plausible that, perhaps, folks like myself, who thought Roman was running the show, wasn’t completely to blame for the lack of Red Zone efficiency?
    Maybe Harbaugh covered things up to protect GRo?

    It does seem odd to me, how much the Offense went from Option, to Pocket, in one monumental about face.

    I’m guessing the FO wanted changes, as many of us did, and Jim felt he could handle it on the fly?

    All I can be sure of now is, the whole thing is history now.

  32. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Our passing game in general just evaporated.
    WRs, TEs were nowhere to be found, in any meaningful way.
    We, (more or less), just went flat.

    I’ve questioned WR Coach John Morton for quite awhile.
    Mangini, assigned to TEs Coach, wasn’t the most brilliant of moves either, in hindsight.

    Could be that Mangini, being a Baalke/Parcells-connected guy, was instrumental in having him utilized, as opposed to being exposed to other suitors too?

    All in all, when the HC/GM can’t get together on a plan, you’re basically left with the inevitable meltdown we encountered.

  33. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Should clarify my last comment –
    Baalke could have been instrumental in having Mangini reassigned.

  34. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Colts announced they and Rob Chudzinski have agreed to a new contract naming him Associate Head Coach.”

  35. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Read an interesting opinion piece, on the Coaching Carousel that’s taken place.
    New Coaches in new places and, their potential impact on the FA Class this Spring.

    One reference was made to Roman and whether Frank Gore would prefer to remain in his system, as opposed to signing on with a new system in SF.
    Chud could bend that curve if hired.
    Also, Fangio’s potential interest in some of our Defensive pieces.

    Taking into account, the available Cap space, some of these new Coaches will have at their disposal.

    I believe it was on CBS, I’ll see if I can locate the link.

  36. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yep – CBS…..

    Don’t look now but, Seattle has some money to spend as well.
    Likely to be eaten up to great extent by Russell.

    http://tinyurl.com/pm2bgfb

  37. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Forgot to include the Cap Advantage piece –

    http://tinyurl.com/qdvhnwo

  38. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Maiocco has Chud staying in Indy –

    http://tinyurl.com/obybwg7

  39. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Is anyone surprised about Chud staying put?

    It was a lot easier for Jimi to recruit coaches than old Tommy boy huh?

    It’s going to be Chryst for us no doubt

  40. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The drama continues Phil.
    All this game is about is recycling the same old guys it seems.

    I hope Baalke goes off the beaten path and hires someone new.
    Go get a College guy with some new ideas.

  41. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I think Chudzinski used the Niners for leverage to get a new and better deal with the Colts.
    Same with Fewell who has an offer to be the DBs coach but is talking with the Redskins and fishing for a better deal.
    It seems if they had a plan that it has not come to pass.
    At this point I would go with Charlie Weis or Mike Shanahan.

  42. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Whoever the Niners hire as the OC I just hope they don’t spin and lie that the new hire was their first choice all along and this was how they planned it.
    That would just insult everyone’s intelligence.

    Another named mentioned is Brian Daboll on the Pats staff as the TE coach who has OC experience in the NFL.

  43. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    For all the difficulty in filling the important OC role it would seem Balkey is feeling the heat to get someone who can actually help Kap improve and build a functional O. We’ve said a lot about TB but one thing is = he’s not stupid and must know it is his neck on the line. Can’t hide from this one so I do hope they can get the right guy however long it takes.

    Sure looks like some of these candidates are indeed using our teams for leverage, yes. I think York has made quite a name for himself in the NFL with this epic purge of our former coaches.

    I can think of a few myself. Really leaning on Jed as the lead rat unfortunately

  44. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    That’s pretty funny, Bullit. Sad but funny.

  45. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe Trent is going to pull an amazing OC nobody expected out of a hat.
    This sure feels like the search for an OC when they hired Jimmy Raye. Interviewed 8 candidates and settle on Jimmy Raye as best for the team?
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117416-san-francisco-49ers-new-offensive-coordinator-jimmy-raye

  46. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Perry Fewell just chose to join the Redskins.
    It just keeps getting better and better.

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The apologists wanted to blow it all up because they didn’t like the Roman run offense.
    They said any other OC would be an improvement over Greg Roman.
    They wanted to get rid of the rodent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVAhhVrpkwM

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So many coaches are using the Niners as leverage to get richer and better deals with other teams. It is getting embarrassing because they keep swinging and missing.

  49. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Guys would rather work for Dan Snyder than Jed York. It doesn’t get any lower than that.

  50. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It’s always funny to see how fans make their choices on who will be responsible for success or failure way before they know anything about it.

    Tomsula is already working behind a shield of immunity for failure and whoever gets suckered, I mean hired, to stand in for OC is going to be the guy who makes us win or lose. Good to know!

    The only way the Niners were going to pull in any coaching talent after their theater of shenanigans in dumping a winning HC and all of his staff was to hire a BIG name HC that other coaches would trust and want to work for. No takers for the job of working for the likes of “I’m in charge” Baalke or “No, I’m the boss” owner’s son act? I’m shocked.

  51. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Malzahn makes over $4 mil a year as HC at Auburn with built in escalators. He’s working on a 6 year deal.
    He won’t leave for the NFL for less than $6.5 mil.
    Not going to happen.

  52. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Think “all” potential OC candidaates and “all” top notch coaches are sending a message to the chief rodent of the Niners?

    “York, screw you. Not interested in your meddling cheap ass ways. You are top dog in Ninerland, got a nice stadium, had a winning HC and team, going to host the SB next year but no, that wasn’t good enough for you. In the face of your team and their fans you sabotaged all of them because you, Mr. Boy Genius, thought you knew best. York you are nothing without great coaches and we look forward to proving that when we play your team.”

    I believe this is the mindset regarding the brat/family in charge of our team around NFL coaching circles. No joy in that for me.

    As this drags on into a losing season, shudder, the fan base, always slow to wake up will be sending another message to the Child Wonder = “Screw you York, you took the team Jimi built into an actual functioning team and reduced them back to another collection of talented 8-8 individuals. You had your chance and you pissed it away royally. Congratulations on being the most hated man in Niner history. Cancel those season tickets punk.”

    Reality bites when you put ego ahead of winning

  53. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    In Happyland I imagine reality may slowly begin to dawn but I don’t actually know because fantasyville is not for me. And maybe the know-it-all-in-chief will continue to pipe down and someday realize what York has done to the Niners. But I’m not holding my breath.

  54. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe York and Balkey can ask Trent’s daughter who she recommends for our offensive coordinator.

  55. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners are going to hire Steve Logan as an offensive assistant. He coached with Tomsula with the Rhein Fire and was last RBs coach with Tampa Bay.
    Not sure about hiring an entire staff and hiring the OC last and telling him to head that group of coaches.

  56. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    We put the “fun” in dysfunctional.

  57. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    It’s a recipe for disaster Bullit. It’s got to be Jesus H Chryst as nobody outside is going to buy what York is selling.

    Think coaches, agents don’t talk about what’s happening?

    http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/49ers-coaching-search-coaches-camelot-siberia-clara-bill-walsh/

  58. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “We put the “fun” in dysfunctional.”

    Yep and we take it out of “functional” Grumpy leaving us where exactly?

    Oh yeah Shitsville

  59. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Fewell chose not only Snyder over York but he chose McCloughan over Balkey. And he made the right choice

  60. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Aubryo Franklin is reportedly back, but….

    as an entry level Dline coach.

  61. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yes Bullit, I made the point several times about Malzahn being well compensated at Auburn.
    My initial proposals were aimed at perhaps giving his OC, Rhett Lashlee a closer inspection.

    Like Harbaugh, Saban, Urban Meyer and many others, Malzahn is very well paid for his services.

    What I like about Malzahn is his system.
    If his OC is competent enough to run at, I’d make an inquiry about any aspirations he might have for the NFL.

    Kaep needs an innovator IMO.
    Malzahn seems to have proven that he thinks outside the box.

  62. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil keep in mind, some of these OC candidates are looking at working in a VERY tough Defensive Division, along with a makeshift Staff.

    There’s always a ‘comfort-zone’ aspect involved with changing addresses as well.

    Yes, adding in the ‘Jed Factor’ would also concern many of these more experienced candidates too.

    This is why I’m leaning toward a hungry unknown, who isn’t seeking comfort ahead of NFL ambitions.

    As for working in DC?
    Snyder isn’t afraid to throw his money around.
    Something Jed is much more concerned about obviously.

    The problem there in DC is, how much is the higher salary worth, when the Owner is in your face 24/7?

  63. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    To become the OC of the Niners you have to believe you can make Kap a much improved QB or you’re doomed to fail.
    That has to be a major factor in deciding if you want the job.
    Chudzinski choose to stay with Luck.

  64. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    New name per Maiocco for OC. Egos WR coach Bob Bicknell who has also coached in NFL Europe

  65. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s just it Bullit.
    Many variables involved.

    With an under achieving Offense, the right candidate has to measure his chances for success, with the reality of failure, in a Defensively stacked Division.

    We need a fearless overachiever with some balls to roll up his sleeves and make an effort.

    Harbaugh had that drive to go at it full bore.

    Gase chose his comfort zone with Fox, no major surprise there.
    Perry Fewell knows the NFC East, just as Rex knows the AFC East.

    We need a Mad Scientist-type perhaps?
    Someone willing to teach a young QB with running ability how to succeed in a Pro passing capacity.

    Luck vs Kaep is apples to oranges.

  66. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Now you’re trying to pair that guy, with a 1st time NFL HC, a young Owner and, a highly motivated, overly aggressive GM.

    There needs to be some chemistry in this endeavor.

    I’d rather see them look at 20 guys then to think they need to make a hasty decision with the 1st guy to say yes.

  67. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    In our situation, Defense has been the key to our success for several years.
    Tomsula has been involved there and won’t lose focus on what needs to happen to stay above average.

    Getting the chemistry right, is the challenge with anyone’s Staff.

    Harbaugh walked in with his Staff from Day 1.
    Not the case now.

  68. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bicknell has WR/TE position Coaching experience on his resume as well.

    Looks like he also has ties to Stevie Johnson from his stint in Buffalo too.
    See what happens….

  69. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Dug this up on the Eagles’ Team site on Bicknell.
    Looks as though he’s logged some pretty serious ‘Coaching mileage’ over the years.

    Appears to have a pretty diverse background.

    http://tinyurl.com/n6tms5l

  70. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Harbaugh walked in with his Staff from Day 1.
    Not the case now.” -NJ

    As a QB in the NFL for 15 years and a college coach for 6-7 years plus being an NFL assistant for several years Hendrix has a large list of coaching contacts. He was able to walk in due to superior networking and experience in the US.

    The DL coach just does not have the list of credible coaching contacts who will trust him as a HC. Why take a chance on Tommy boy rather than someone you as a prospective coach have a relationship with? Doesn’t matter if the owner’s son likes you if you are unknown to qualified peers.

  71. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh was much better off when he arrived Phil because he had an established Staff to begin his NFL stint with, no question.
    Took a talented roster and hit the ground running.

    Won’t be as comfortable for Tomsula, since his Staff is being built piece by piece.

    Had Fangio been retained, things certainly could’ve been smoother, from a continuity perspective.

    Again, why Fangio didn’t stick, is another one of those dozens of questions as to why?

  72. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Guess he didn’t check enough boxes? 😀

  73. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Rex Ryan said this yesterday
    “Tuesday afternoon, when speaking about the two coordinators he hired to lead his first Buffalo Bills coaching staff, Ryan said, “I’m fortunate that my owner has deep pockets because it cost a lot to get both of these guys, and for good reason. They were wanted by a lot of people, but not anymore than we wanted them.”
    ===

    This busts the myth by the apologist that nobody would hire Greg Roman.
    Remember the statement that anybody would be a better coordinator than Roman.
    I see the apologists are are backing off their statements as expected because the way everything has transpired reminds you of the Singletary days of ineptness and the way they are failing and flailing in hiring coaches speaks volumes on how this franchise is perceived by the rest of the league.
    It’s back to the Linehan days of choosing Detroit because he said he ws unsure of the 49ers.
    The 49er front office has to ask themselves, how did this happen?

  74. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Egos block Niners from interviewing Bicknell

  75. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    When is a promotion not a promotion:

    “Bob Bicknell and Jim Tomsula spoke about 49ers OC job. Bicknell wants to stay as PHI WR coach.”

  76. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, Roman was wooed by Jax and TB, teams whose total talent between them is one good young QB. Roman would’ve fit right in.

    Oh, and Rex. I have a much better opinion of Rex than most people on these blogs, but still… His motto on O seems to be, “Just don’t turn the ball over. My D will get you the ball in FG range sooner or later.”

    Look at the Bills new ownership. They’ve done a fine job turning the Sabres into a cesspool. The Bills have an excellent D. They need a QB, as they have every year since Jim Kelly retired. So, fire the HC. That’ll do it.

    The deniers wish to claim that the Bills OC job is a prize. That statement needs no editorial comment.

  77. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Even through all this doom&gloom I am really excited about this upcoming season. To me it’s kinda like a relationship that turned boring and stagnant, the only sensible thing to do is move on. We have a group of really good players that will certainly play their hearts out for whoever we get as an OC. Maybe Baalke actually knows something, it could happen.

  78. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    RT

    Bills did not fire their HC. He bailed with the out clause in his contract and will still get paid $4 mil for this year.
    He took the loophole but it doesn’t say much for his reputation of trying to build a winner and sticking to it.

  79. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Steve Logan, new 49ers QB coach, last coached in NFL 3 years ago as Bucs RB coach.”

  80. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I can hear Winder’s heart pounding excitedly from way across the ocean.

  81. winderNo Gravatar says:

    lol.

  82. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    OCs in the NFL get paid a lot of money.
    The fact of the matter is that most are anonymous and I doubt if the casual fan could name 20 of the 32 OCs in the NFL off the top of their heads without looking them up.
    Most OCs make $750K plus so I would say that would be a plum job even if it’s in Buffalo.

  83. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Steve Logan, 61, to WRAL on 3-year absence from coaching: “Jim Tomsula is one guy who I would open this can of worms back up for.”

    Interesting choice of words. Maybe he knows what he’s getting into.

  84. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I guess Geep Chryst has either been booted out of the building, too, or he’s the fall back new OC.

  85. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    This is what happens when you’re forced to dust off the old Rolodex for coaching candidates.

    Maybe he’s a “camp coach.” Somebody’s got to run those QB meetings.

    All jokes aside, Geep’s got the bar pretty low.

  86. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Who would name their kid Geep?

  87. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Somebody who couldn’t spell Jeep.

  88. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    G.P.’s better but doesn’t fit a football coach quite as well.

    Willis is a good misspelling of Willys though.

  89. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    So we’re going to ride the Geep as was predicted weeks ago. No brainer, this is per program of mama York, owner = big savings.

    I know Winder is excited or at least hopefully positive about the new staff which is the “half full” POV. So if the ‘can of worms’ can be opened and exorcized by the new crew with a winning team on the field it’s all good I suppose.

    Read somewhere (NN) that ‘fans will be happy with 8-8 record this year’. That’s a joke but it was said seriously in the article. What happened to winning record, Super Bowls? No worries we have class. Funny how the goals are being reduced steadily.

  90. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Geep it is.
    That was some extensive search.
    Call it Plan G.

  91. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah that Roman he did have numerous job offers in the NFL and was wise to proceed at this level. ‘Rising up the career ladder’ is a hard concept but that’s how careers tend to work. Sniff at $750,000 / year as you will.

  92. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “The Bills have an excellent D. They need a QB, as they have every year since Jim Kelly retired. So, fire the HC. That’ll do it.”

    Ain’t that the way it goes RT? Seems we here are no exception with Kap getting excessive blmae after a time of excessive praise. But winning cures all deficits. Same with Hendrix. Do agree that with the boy genius backing the GM over his HC that what we got = a purge was likely starting with the media sabotage campaign.

    Lovely, square one

  93. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    An interesting situation to watch is, the one taking place in Philly, where Chip Kelly was recently given Personnel authority.

    As dysfunctional as things appear to be in SF, Kelly hasn’t done squat, in terms of proving superiority, at the NFL level.

    His approach to Offense is entertaining perhaps, however, it does nothing for his Defense.

    I’m hoping he sells out for Mariotta, as Ditka did for Ricky.

    Yeh, we’re looking more disorganized than ever right now but, I still believe our roster has more talent than most.

    We’ll see where this makeshift Coaching Staff goes, once the season begins.
    Let’s just say the expectations remain lukewarm from my perspective.

  94. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Well NJ Philly hasn’t found an OC yet so again we’ll see on the field = the supreme test in the NFL all hyperventilating aside.

    Chryst may not be our savior (I jest) but the play calling should speed up, play book should remain familiar so there’s that ‘continuity’ element. HC will stay out of it I imagine.

    Big issue is how will Kap improve? This will be critical for all our sakes including his. Proof will be seen on field. At least York won’t be bitching covertly for a year minimum

  95. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, until I step in it I usually am hopeful it isn’t there. Anyway, this is really to ridiculous for me to totally absorb. I’m not sad of losing last years crew but this new crew has WTF written all over it. However, 8-8 is not acceptable we have to win the division.

  96. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Somewhere down in Tampa Bay, Jimmy Raye is laughing his ass off.

  97. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t lose hope just yet Phil.
    Been digging around on Kaep’s new QB Coach, Steve Logan.

    Tomsula may have hit a home run with this guy. Seriously.

    His resume includes stints as TEs Coach under Jimmy Johnson at OK, worked with QB/RB/WRs along the way, as well as OC duties in College and NFLE.
    HC experience as well at BC, worked with Matty Ice.
    Seems like a bright ‘Teacher-type’.
    If he can get Kaep ‘coached up’, this might not be so unspectacular as it’s looking to many of us.

    Works at WRAL in NC now as host of a Sports Show, The Logan Zone.

    Here’s a sample –

    http://tinyurl.com/mjat5hg

  98. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He’s advertised on WRAL as Blues, Wine and Football.
    He’ll be in heaven in wine Country I’d imagine 😀

  99. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Some ‘positive noise’ from AZ –

    http://tinyurl.com/n7nfqj5

  100. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Well, I like the Aubrayo Franklin hire. Tomsula will give him a good start to his coaching career.

    I like Foerster, too. Nolan brought him over from Baltimore, IIRC and Singletary fired him, to much cheering on these blogs. I guess he’s okay now though since Nolan didn’t hire him this time.

  101. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey NoFear49er, I was reading that Franklin is more in line for an Asst job, which is OK by me.
    Agree, tough guy with a good work ethic.
    Wouldn’t mind seeing Bryant Young added too.
    Read recently that he’s interested in getting an offer.

    I believe Foerster was onboard when Harbaugh arrived?
    Might have been Jim that replaced him with Solari?

    All things considered, I have mixed reviews with Chryst going to OC but, it’s not like he hasn’t done it before.
    I’ll reserve judgement until he’s able to show us something.

    Everything I’ve read on Steve Logan is encouraging at least.

    My biggest concerns have been with Kaep’s development.
    Maybe Logan can pick up the slack left from Chryst.

  102. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey NJ49er,

    Hard to understand why they would keep Chryst for continuity or anything else if they were so “embarrassed” by the offense.

    Makes perfect sense for this bunch to want to keep the playbook that everyone wanted to burn last year.

    Looks to me like these guys don’t care what sort of shit sandwich they force the fans to eat. The big money’s in the bag anyway. Seems a lot like locking up the water bottles and charging for laundry, don’t it?

  103. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hard to understand the process with Chryst NoFear49er?
    Especially with all the efforts made to look elsewhere.

    Could be, as you suggest, that since all else failed, the reasonable approach is to keep what Kaep knows already perhaps?

    Not a terrible approach I guess, if going to Plan B,C,D didn’t work out.

    Given the choice between the Water Bottle Accountant and his Son, I favor the latter.
    I’m having my reservations as to whether he’s destined for Dan Snyder 2.0 territory however.

    God help us if he does go that far.

  104. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Sorta expected some push-back to the Assistant/Coordinator searches since Tomsula is a true novice at HC.

    He’s definitely an unknown commodity, with no viable relationships in the NFL.
    I’m sure that was a BIG red flag for many.
    Plus, Jed, having no NFL resume to speak of, can’t instill too much confidence either.

    All things considered, I guess it could have been worse.

    Mangini belongs on Defense, Sparano has value and, Curry should be a good option for WR Coach.

    All depends on Logan, which at the moment, might be Tomsula’s best acquisition.
    We’ll see?

  105. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    How many offers were made? It looks to me like they might have had this crew ready from day one. Or at least since Fangio put out the ultimatum.

    Thought I read somewhere B. Young was having personal issues.

  106. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Very possible.
    It’s been a painful process sifting through all this drama.

    I’d heard BY had personal issues a while back?
    Maybe things have improved?

    I’ll have to dig around on that, to see if I can establish a timeline.

  107. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That wasn’t too tough, it was a fairly recent piece –

    http://tinyurl.com/krs8q27

  108. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    According to this ESPN piece, he resigned to spend more time with his family –

    http://tinyurl.com/l5ahsjz

  109. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas: L 10-40
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia: L 10-33
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona: L 10-20
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants: W 31-21
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle: L 13-24
Dec. 3: at Chicago: W 15-14
Dec. 10: at Houston: W 26-16
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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