49ers 20, Cardinals 17

In a meaningless battle between two crippled teams, one that will play again next week and one that won’t, it was the Won’ts that prevailed over the Wills in a close and fairly entertaining game. The Harbaugh Era ends in style and a Gatorade bath for the beloved coach.

The 49ers finished the year at 8-8, a record that was cheered in 2009 when Mike Singletary was the coach, but is viewed now as a total disaster. That’s how far Jim Harbaugh raised the bar for this franchise.

Now it’s time to get the barf bag out of the closet. The Niners had three years without any fans needing the old hurling mitt for an endless procession of nauseous spin control efforts from the Management suits. They’ve already given Jim Harbaugh a phony “thanks for your efforts” send off, followed by their promise to find an excellent new head coach who will continue the grand tradition of 49er winning football.

Perhaps they will. I wouldn’t say their chances are particularly good, but maybe they’ll get lucky. All we know for sure is there will be lots of cheering from the other three NFC West franchises.

But it’s doubtful any good coach would want to come work for a dysfunctional franchise that rewards winning coaches with backstabbing and a pink slip, so I’m betting the next HC will be Jim Tomsula — selected after a phony Rooney Rule minority interview, and an exhausting nation wide search, of course. Tomsula will rah-rah up the team and get them to enthusiastically go out and win 14 games and a Super Bowl in 2015. Plus, he’ll work for cheap. A Jed York requirement.

I’m so enthused myself that I’m gonna rush out and make reservations for Santa Clara in February of 2016. Right after I toss up my cookies.




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  1. EarlNo Gravatar says:

    Ah, Skeebs. It was a nice win after all. Kap looked relaxed for the first time in a long time. And Gore really tore ’em up. Kills me to think a great player like Frank Gore doesn’t have an SB ring.

  2. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    49-21-1.

    Forty Nine wins for the 49ers in 4 years from Hendrix.

    No fractured locker room despite the droning of the usual suspects.

    “Management problem” sez Madden. Who you going to listen to?

    So the answer is ‘get a new coach’? Hope that works.

    Brilliant

  3. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Funny that St. Jim played no part in his ouster. He didn’t lie to his players about Peyton Manning. Or about Alex Smith and returning from injury. Or stick with a shitty OC that should have been fired in 2012.

    Good coach? Yes. Great? Well, I guess we have to wait and see. Seifert gets no credit for continuing Walsh’s legacy. Does Harbaugh get undue credit for turning around a stacked team?

    Food for thought. Although that’s discouraged around here.

  4. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So, in a nutshell, you don’t think the front office will hire a good coach. And if they do they’ll be lucky.

    Spoken like a true weenie fan. In Bullitt’s words, a true fan would support the franchise regardless. But of course he won’t.

  5. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I can’t help but think what could have been had we found a couple of successful plays in the biggest of games the past 3 years.
    For me, it was as simple as being more creative on Offense.

    Seeing how we used Bruce Miller today, I have to wonder where our ability to find a TE other than Vernon, could have helped this Offense in those types of situations.

    For a run heavy Offense as we’ve been, the lack of a dynamic TE presence looms large.

    My beef has never been with Jim.
    We simply couldn’t find a fit for Kaep after the running game was stuffed.
    Let’s hope the next regime can knit this thing together with some rhythm and balance.

  6. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    * ‘inability to find a TE’

  7. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, we did have Delanie Walker in ’12. I didn’t realize at the time how hard it would be to replace him. Beside that, all our TEs got waylaid this year.

    I think this coaching staff pushed too hard to make Kappy something he’s not. And that’s Peyton Manning. Beyond that the line play went from fair to terrible. All they need to do like you said is get a balanced offense going. With the talent on this team it shouldn’t be too hard.

  8. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Lot’s of areas to criticize Chuck.
    Sadly, they never found the right answers for the big games.
    Declining stats are declining stats.

    Final chapter says, a very good overall record, with no hardware to show for it.

  9. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Some whine and moan about the shortcomings of the Niners. Some say the year is a failure if we don’t win a Super Bowl. Some have said 6-10 is the same as 11-5 if no SB win.

    So Hendrix didn’t win a SB so “dump him”. Fine.

    And by a similar standard I will judge the next regime’s worth if they can or cannot match or exceed 49-21-1.

    Match or win SB? Fine all is forgiven, guess Balky knows something.

    No matching of the sterling 49-21-1 then this move is a failure, a laughable joke and the coaches should be fired and Balky along with them.

    So rather than hyperventilate much I’ll wait to see how it plays out. Good move/bad move- we’ll see if the Hendrix standard is met.

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dumbass comment among many by the clueless one today
    “Does Harbaugh get undue credit for turning around a stacked team?”

    Stacked team? Harbaugh took a 6-10 team and finished 13-3 an improvement of 7 games. Obviously you have no idea what you’re talking about.

  11. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Fangio not going to coach with Hendrix next year = ‘Source’.

    He’s in the running for Niners HC

    http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2014/12/28/notes-fangio-wont-join-harbaugh-retirement-likely-for-smith/

  12. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    That’s pathetic Bullit. The beauty of the childrens blog is that you don’t actually need to have brains to post there.

    I suppose it helps their fragile self-esteem to come over here and post contrary opinions as much as some do.

  13. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Dumbass comment #2
    “Or stick with a shitty OC that should have been fired in 2012.”

    In 2012 the team went to the Super Bowl and were 5 yards from winning the sixth ring. So you take your team to the Super Bowl and walk the plank because you come up just short?

    Another brilliant take from someone clearly deficient in football knowledge.

  14. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    It’s the rewrite department. Something didn’t work out so just say “hey here’s what should have happened back then. Aren’t I smart?’.

    That’s one of the chief attractions of the kiddie blog = you can say anything however devoid of sense, rationality, character or decency. It’s all good! This attracts some pitiful characters and results in endless drivel but whatever works for them.

    Rationality is work sometimes, much easier to fling junk around.

  15. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh Guys, changes are never fun.
    Having been a fan through good times and bad, I can only hope the transition this time around can withstand the expectations.

    By and large I think we’ve still got enough talent to challenge.
    We need better continuity from the Offense.

    Pressure is on Baalke to find a HC who can work toward a common plan.
    We’ll see where it leads in the coming weeks as the process gets underway.

  16. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    In the end, it boiled down to personality clashes by the looks of it.
    Can’t expect any business to thrive when the Chiefs can’t get together on what the Indians are expected to do.
    If they’re not pulling in the same direction, they’re pulling it apart.

  17. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    What makes me scratch my head is how the initial hiring of Jim seemed to have been a good idea?
    Did Trent and Jim not have a common vision for what was expected initially?
    Something had to click I’d imagine?

    Hard to figure what the H3LL went wrong after so much success on the field.

  18. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t remember so many bloggers being so happy over any win or winning season as they are over Harbaugh’s foolish and forced exit.

    Now they want to give some newbie head coach his first shot. And they’re excited by the thought. A hit or miss proposition at best. Has the football world gone mad? Or is it just the 49er fans. Or just the subset I read.

    Some of you guys are happier rebuilding sinking ship after sinking ship so you can demand certain philosophies that never work out as well in real life as in your imagination?

    I guess the video-game, fantasy-football folks really have taken over and overwhelmed the fans of real football. Played by real players and coached by actual people.

    Well, I’m already feeling sorry for the poor sap that takes on the job of HC for this bunch.

    He’ll be number one for a year or so, then the loud-mouthed ex-spurts will turn on him for a variety of ever-changing perceived failures.

    Sometime in year two he’ll be cursed and his head on a pike will be demanded. Followed by a year or so of what he should have dones and all the reasons for his pre-ordained failure.

    Repeat above until stark raving mad and then settle in and join the fun.

    Serioulsy, folks actually predicting the playoffs before ever knowing who may be in line for the head coaching gig.

    Absolutely jaw-droppingly stupid considering those same folks lives are based on the fallacy that the head coach is everything there is to a football team.

  19. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er the irony in all of this, for me anyway, is what turned an excellent HC hire into such a disaster?

    No one rained on Baalke for hiring Jim initially that I can recall.

    Jim proved he could unite a locker room yet, somehow, divide the FO.
    I simply can’t put that into logical terms.

    Add to all this fodder, a report from La Canfora that this isn’t signed, sealed and delivered, to Ann Arbor just yet.

    For all the denial of money not being important to Jim, I have to question what the REAL motives are?

    http://tinyurl.com/m28hyc8

  20. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If we accept the content of what La Canfora is proposing, Jim seems like a loose cannon, doing his own bidding in search of the perfect deal.

    I’ve got no issues with anyone looking to improve their position in whatever arena they stake a claim.

    What doesn’t add up is, why sign a 5-yr Contract if you have no intention of honoring the agreement?

    It seemed Jim sought to rewrite the deal he agreed to in year 2 of a 5 year deal.
    What Owner/GM wouldn’t have an issue with that?

    From all accounts, Jed appeared willing to listen and perhaps, give him some latitude there, who’s to know for sure?

  21. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve also read reports that his Agent, David Dunn, managed to get UM to raise it’s initial offer to Jim, to avoid the sort of report La Canfora is putting out regarding potential NFL suitors.

    Something just doesn’t add up for me.

    There’s got to be some sort of wrangling going on behind the scenes to have this ‘mutual parting of ways’ dialogue put into the open.

    Call it the way you see it but, $5Mil to Jed doesn’t seem to be the entire enchilada here.

    It almost seems to be an attempt to bust the Contract for a better payday elsewhere.

  22. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe he wanted total control, a new GM, or a new CEO. Who knows? Whatever it was there was a better way to handle it than all the backstabbing, undermining and low character shit.

    Doesn’t sound like more money to me. He can write his own ticket in more than a few places and could have when he came here.

    How about Jed pays Kaepernick and tells Harbaugh to quit letting him run around getting hit in the head. Harbaugh says I have to be able to coach the way I see fit and not be told how and who to play by some punk-ass bitch or a GM.

  23. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Media leaks can originate from anywhere, we all know that.

    Some believe it was done from the FO.
    Hard not to think it couldn’t have originated from David Dunn too.

    I’ve contended all along, from the start of the tremors of discord, that Jim stays if HE wants to stay.

    If he’s been H3LL bent on seeking greener pastures, this is how it’s done.

  24. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Good argument NoFear49er, I made a similar comment regarding that very issue myself.
    Absolutely plausible.
    High dollar QB means high stakes risks.

    Many of us would agree that Kaep needed a lot of work to be a pocket passer.
    It doesn’t happen overnight certainly.

    All I’m suggesting is, for whatever went on behind closed doors, it absolutely came apart and, fractured the team.

    Jim could easily have gone about completing the 5yr obligation and moved on.
    It just takes on an air of mutiny orchestrated to break free prior to the Contract term being completed.

    All of this sh!t did nothing but tarnish all involved.
    Completely ridiculous.

  25. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Unfortunately, Owners don’t get ousted unless a Board of Directors exists to facilitate it.
    We’re stuck with Jed until such time his franchise tanks badly enough to lose folks like us.

    Somehow I don’t see that happening in my lifetime.

  26. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve watched the NYJ implode for many years.
    They’ve been the model of dysfunction.
    Poor Cap Mgt, a previous Owner who didn’t change with the times etc.

    Once we had Paraag iron out the Cap H3LL issues, we did turn a corner of sorts, in terms of stabilizing an aging and expensive roster.
    I think Baalke has managed to keep this thing decently stocked with talent as well.

    Nothing is perfect of course but, we’re not strapped with guaranteed Contracts choking us from growing roster depth, such as was demonstrated with the Tannenbaum regime at the NYJ.

    All I wish for is that everyone gets on the same page.
    Find a common ground and focus on winning TOGETHER.

  27. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting article on Mr Harbaugh –

    http://tinyurl.com/k3m3fqy

  28. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The rumors are swirling this morning that Michigan is not a done deal.
    The local news stations are reporting that Harbaugh has a meeting this morning with the Raiduh’s Mark Davis.

  29. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger actually posted that if the Niners kept Harbaugh they would have to replace half the team because of the player “mutiny” and if Harbaugh did stick around in SF they would have a losing record next season. Apparently it seems that Berger thinks half the team is against Harbaugh.
    His acute football mind has drawn this conclusion all the way from Reno,NV. Proof that alcohol and the high altitude truly effects the feeble mind. Pure BS hyperbole.

  30. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I agree that most of this has been a pissing contest about power. Baalke and Harbs could not play well together, and Little Jed was not man enough to tell them ‘Frack you, you wanna hate someone, hate me; You both work for me, now get back in there and do your damned jobs.” This organization functioned very well with Walsh and McKay, etc. – In the years since, it has become a sad example of dysfunctionality. Too much pissing in each others’ cornflakes and not enough cooperating in pursuit of the goal. I’ll always be a fan but I see no reason why things are going to get better anytime soon.

  31. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Head coaching vacancies with the Jests, da Bears and Falcons.
    So far Tony Sparano is flapping in the wind while the owner talks to Harbaugh.
    Deja Vu? Same scenario when Sparano was with Miami.

  32. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    What I think is funny is you folks here thinking that we are part of the process and that Harbaugh is blamess here. Harbaugh wore out his welcome at Stanford in 4 years amid the reports of his constant harassing of his players and his 100% balls to the wall personality. Throw in his disdain for the higher-ups and you have a situation where he grates on just about everyone around him.

    Again, you guys would have been fine with giving Harbaugh a 5 year $40 mill deal? Keeping Roman and this underwhelming offense?

  33. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    He averaged what? 22nd in total yards his 4 years? Underwhelming to say the least.

  34. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Before yesterday’s game Harbaugh and York had a chat on the field
    which ended with a handshake and this hug. AWKWARD!!!!
    Jim Harbaugh does not have a poker face.
    http://cbssports.com/images/blogs/york-harbaugh-hug-wk17.jpg

  35. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    But Chuck why are you giving us numbers and stats for? According to Berger, you guys have the football acumen to state your case without giving out stats. In fact you kept saying that recently.
    We know your hypocrisy and torrent of BS precedes you.

  36. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    It’s about power and control w/ Hendrix vs FO/York. Money not so much but whatever.

    It’s about a failed negotiation to resolve sharing power and control between the parties. As in a marriage when this critical issue never gets resolved it is a prelude to a divorce or a very unhappy relationship.

    We’ve got the ‘no-fault’ divorce preceded by the unresolved conflict.

    IF York/Balky wanted to resolve this they could have negotiated it. IF Hendrix or anyone else was the source of the drip drip drip leaks in which He was the Victim (bad Jimi) it would have been a simple matter for York to say immediately, publicly “We are not the source of these rumors” not months later and half-heartedly. Why didn’t York do so until months later?

    Because he was the source who wanted to trade Hendrix and when it was quashed by Jimi more leaks followed.

    “You take my 6-10 team to SB and don’t win it? Get out loser”

    Brilliant, just brilliant

  37. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    My take on this is Harbaugh actually gave the Niners a discount when he signed on with the Niners. The report was Stanford had sweetened thwie offer to $5.5 mil to stay and the Dolphins had a $7-8 mil offer on the table.
    Harbaugh figured if he had success then a better contract was forthcoming. He had success beyond anyone’s expectations but no new contract and it deteriorated to what has happened because nobody was the bigger man here.
    http://bayarea.sbnation.com/san-francisco-49ers/2011/1/5/1918020/miami-dolphins-jim-harbaugh-highest-paid-head-coach-san-francisco-49ers-seven-eight-million-dollars

  38. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, talk is no one in the NFL wanted to go to $8 mill despite Harbaugh’s track record . . .

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/29/harbaugh-to-michigan-all-but-official/

    In another report from local guy Kevin Lynch:

    Some believe the deterioration of the Harbaugh-49ers management relationship tracts to Harbaugh’s flirtation with Cleveland, when Harbaugh was reportedly open to being traded to the Browns. Some saw it as a ploy by Harbaugh to up his five-year, $25 million contract to a deal in the $7 million per range, which would put him in Seattle coach Pete Carroll’s neighborhood.

  39. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, it has ALWAYS been about the money.

    Nowhere has Harbaugh said, or even hinted, that he wanted GM powers. Harbaugh and Baalke may have clashed over decisions, but Harbaugh never wanted that job. More input? Who knows? Possibly, but the wrangling going on these past few years have been over a contract extension, not a redistribution of power.

    Harbaugh has been angling for an extension since after his first season under the recently voided deal.

  40. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Vernon Davis (one of those supposedly part of a fractured locker room) on 49ers’ next coach: “He’s going to have to have pretty much everything Jim Harbaugh had, because he was good, really, really good.”

  41. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Crabtree the other alleged malcontent had some nice words for his coach, the Niner org and the fans.
    http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/Michael-Crabtree-Talks-49ers-Career-Pending-Free-Agency/4c78fbbf-aa9f-4bea-80cc-b4428626294f

    The season is over and I’m waiting to hear half the team come forward and trash Harbaugh as Dumb and Dumber posted.

  42. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yup. Head, meet sand.

    Do you attribute these myriad issues that came up all year to Jed and Jed only?

  43. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Yup. Head, meet sand.”

    Wow, it’s not like you, Chuck, to humbly admit your failings. Congrats. There’s a tiny, tiny, really, really tiny glimmer of hope for you yet.

  44. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    As usual you offer inanities instead of answers, Skeebs. You were cool with giving Harbaugh 5/$40mill to continue?

    None of the team’s failings this year have anything to do with how Harbaugh coached the team to an 8-8 record? It’s all Jed and Kappy and injuries and sun spots?

  45. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    And here’s another guy who was supposed to be glad to see Harbaugh go:

    Colin Kaepernick: “The coach that drafted me, chose to start me, and stood behind me through it all! I will never forget what you have done for me coach thank you for everything!”

  46. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    In the “What gall!” department: Jed York: We’ve demonstrated we can make good hires. My uncle swung and missed many times.

  47. winderNo Gravatar says:

    The one reality in this situation is that Jed isn’t going anywhere.
    Walsh: very sad that he left.
    Seifort:(sp) glad that he left.
    Mooch: Glad that he left.
    Ericson:(sp) glad that he left.
    Nolan: Glad that he left.
    Singletary: Glad that he left.
    Harbaugh: Glad that he left.
    My reasons for these don’t mean squat, but it’s just how I feel.
    I was very happy when all these guys were hired to be our HC’s. But for various reasons I feel we got the best they all had to offer and it was down hill from there. This league is constantly changing and unless you have the ability to change with it your gonna get screwed. And as a long-time Niner fan I will ride with whatever we do.

  48. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    “In the “What gall!” department: Jed York: We’ve demonstrated we can make good hires. My uncle swung and missed many times.”

    More like, once in a while dumb luck smacks us in the face with good fortune, and we’ve demonstrated we can turn that shit around in a hurry. My uncle created a dynasty here, I got a stadium deal done and fired the best coach we’ve had since Bill Walsh. Yay me!

  49. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Remember what Chuck stated yesterday about Kaepernick
    “but you know damn well he’s very happy about seeing Jimbo hit the road. He’ll never admit that”

    Then Kap had a post game press conference and Chuck had his foot in his mouth again.

  50. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Jed needs to be reminded of that old adage: “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth, and remove all doubt.”

  51. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Actually, Winder, a lot of those coaches were not bad football coaches.

    The things is, Walsh was an outstanding coach, and ALSO an outstanding GM. He knew how to evaluate and bring in the talent, and then how to coach them up.

    Seifert was a great coach, an outstanding teacher. Unfortunately, his drafts were not good. Some of that was Dwight Clark’s doing IIRC. And then again, Mooch was a pretty decent coach, saddled with a lame ass GM in Terry Don’tgiveadman.

    And so it goes.

    If you cannot draft good players, particularly at the most important positions (in the modern game, QB, WR, OT, DE and CB) you are screwed.

    Baalke has drafted some good linemen and LBs but has been thoroughly unimpressive at drafting at other positions.

    Unless that changes, the change at coach is unlikely to be anything but a disaster.

  52. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    We have not come to bury Harbaugh but to praise him.

    What do you think would happen? Folks ripping Harbs 10 minutes after he’s out the door? No.

    Why no Jed quotes?

    Harbaugh was certainly part of the ongoing problem with his offense. Roman was a big part of the problem as well, based on recent comments from AD. The players were obviously frustrated by things. Parsing it to how much was Harbaugh positioning himself for the U of M job, or fighting w/ mgmt over money, or the arrests, indictments, and all the other distractions won’t likely be known, but you choose to lay everything at Kappy’s feet.

    Forgive me for thinking this simplistic.

    Frump, that also doomed the post Brodie team in 1972. They had a string of terrible drafts for 6 years leading up to the team being sold by the Morabito sisters.

  53. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Grump this is my biggest concern. Between VMcD, AJ, , Patton, Ellington, and others, Baalke has a weak-ass record of getting pass catchers. Boldin is the lone bright spot. I think Ellington has potential, but his year was wasted.

  54. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Grump

    I think Bruce Miller was a good find and he might evolve into more of a Hback/TE depending on the new HC and his OC.
    The guy from OU Trey Millard is also a talented FB who has good hands and can also be converted to TE.
    With both these guys you get solid blocking and good hands.
    Culliver was a good find CB, Brock has looked good when he hasn’t been hurt and Dontae Johnson was OK until yesterday.

  55. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Seifert was great and an expert for the defense. Head coach, maybe not so much. I think he was terrible at handling the Montana/Young situation and his best year in Carolina was the same record as Harbaugh’s worst here.

    Seifert personifies the effect head coaches may have on a team. When everything else is not the same, the difference can be night and day. Some fans expect the head coach to be the team, players, assistants, everything. If the guy can coach they’d win, seems to be their mantra. When a coach like Seifert comes up the conversation goes to the crickets.

  56. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    You gotta love the Jed-Baalke press conference. Jed says he hopes the fans will hold him accountable when the Niners don’t win a super bowl. The press tried to hold him accountable and kept asking him what happened and he just kept avoiding and spinning off in other directions and finally saying it was private. Funny what accountable means to some people.

    We are what we do, not what we say we can do. By that measure Jed’s just another talking suit full of shit.

  57. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So was Eddie. They pretty much all are.

    Both were given the team by daddy. Eddie because the conflict of interest at that time. Sr owned the penguins and couldn’t have dual ownership. Jed got it through incompetence of Dr. Kedorkian.

    Some strike gold. Most don’t.

  58. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Was that Jed’s last best shot? Hard to say, but at least he’s out on front of other coaching changes.

    Dear old dad waiting way too long after firing Mooch to find a decent replacement.

  59. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    It’s not Easter yet but a couple folks are getting crucified already = namely York and Balky. However the resurrection is dubious.

    People nationwide are in awe of the stupidity of our suits stupidity. In awe of their utter stupid stupidity regarding managing staff and paying them. It’s an unusual almost miraculous quantity of stupid.

    How much is a SB worth York? More than you can afford no doubt. How much more you wouldn’t pay is exactly the number of eggs being applied to your face.

    How much is a SB worth?

  60. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    By common consent Eddie bought SBs by bringing in top talent and paying them liberally. Coaches too.

    Yet 25 years later York can’t see that? He wants a bargain on top coaching talent.

    Did Debartolo get a discount or did he pay? He paid so we hear. But York wants it cheap so out goes the talent. Brilliant.

    How much is a Super Bowl worth? Ask Eddie. He knows it wasn’t cheap.

    Dumb da dumb dumb

  61. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    So, for those keeping score at home, here is our draft situation as of today:

    Round – Pick in Round – (Number Overall)

    1 – 15 – (15)
    2 – 14 – (46)
    3 – 15 – (79)
    4 – 14 – (nn) – Choice traded to Buffalo for WR Stevie Johnson
    4 – nn – (nn) – *Choice from Denver (2014 Draft Day trade)
    5 – 15 – (nn)
    6 – 14 – (nn) – Choice conditionally traded to Jacksonville for QB Blaine Gabbert (not exercised, pick retained)
    6 – nn – (nn) – #Possible Compensatory Selection
    7 – 15 – (nn) – Choice traded to Miami for OT Jonathan Martin
    7 – nn – (nn) – *Conditional Choice from Indianapolis (for OLB Cam Johnson)
    7 – nn – (nn) – #Possible Compensatory Selection

    nn = position to be determined later, depending on playoff outcome and compensatory pick awards.

  62. FranchiseNo Gravatar says:

    Can I get a poll from my fellow bloggers here on Outsider re who should be the next HC for the 49ers? I can’t read Jed’s mind (don’t want to visit that desert…), so here goes:

    Door #1) Todd Bowles
    Door #2) Dan Quinn
    Door #3) Darrell Bevell
    Door #4) Kyle Shanahan
    Door #5) Josh McDaniels
    Door #6) Bill Parcells

    Skeebers, you of course get a vote. Don’t be shy.

    I’ll start –

    Door #3 – Darrell Bevell. Imho he’s the only one who can save Kaep’s career as quebee. Install the Russ Wilson-style offense in SF stat.

    Happy New Year everyone.

  63. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Question: Why any of those six guys ^ up there want to come to a zoo where Baalke has the whip hand and the owner just fired a guy who made the final four three out of four years?

    I’m afraid we’ll get Tomsula and hope for the best, because no one from outside with options is going to be comfortable here.

    I fear it’s going to be Mike Singletary’s O-Coordinator search all over again.

    I *hope* I’m wrong.

  64. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes hard to see anyone decent coming here but it could happen. No doubt York and the stooge will conduct an exhaustive nationwide search then hire Tomsula thereby pissing off Fangio who will request out.

    Brilliant cheap ass sideshow clowns

  65. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Grump, the only reason I have hope a guy like Gase would come here is the team has a strong roster.

    Or Pete Carmichael.

  66. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If they don’t have a few options nailed down knowing what they were hing to do all year, then they are stupid.

    Even these guys couldn’t be that dense.

  67. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Fangio very well could be the next HC. Tomsula takes the DC spot.

  68. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Somed things you guys have missed. You’re welcome. Roman likely to go with Harbaugh (YES!!!!)

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2014/12/29/7464089/greg-roman-expected-to-go-to-michigan-with-jim-harbaugh-according-to

    Baalke wanted Beckham, but Harbaugh nixed the trade with the Giants. Sort of.

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2014/12/29/7465321/trent-baalke-says-the-49ers-tried-to-trade-up-for-odell-beckham-jr

    Bullit’s fave Trent Dilfer thinks Niners will be better next year:

    http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_27224230/trent-dilfer-says-49ers-will-improve-without-harbaugh?source=infinite

  69. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Saw this on reddit:

    http://bit.ly/1Hby296

  70. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s an interesting piece NoFear49er.
    Seems to suggest the Cleveland nonsense came after the fact if this information is true?

    I just hope they find some continuity with this Organization already.
    This sh!t is getting old.

  71. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m still trying to wrap my head around those ‘philosophical’ differences.
    Offensive shortcomings I wonder?

  72. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Well, let me retract that comment about Cleveland, I think the Seattle loss might have been associated to this years’ Seattle losses?
    I initially thought NFCCG from last year.

    Either way, what’s done is done now.
    Whether it was over money or not, we’ll simply just have to continue to speculate on what those ‘philosophical differences’ were.

  73. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This link was embedded within the comments section from that article as well.
    This is some weird sh!t –

    http://imgur.com/O27cacM

  74. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    This is some weird sh!t –

    http://imgur.com/O27cacM

    Well NJ the answer is clear = obviously this is the work of the Niner FO : )

  75. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Fangio very well could be the next HC. Tomsula takes the DC spot.”

    Yes as I said yesterday = Fangio to HC is less disruptive for all. Tomsula as DC that might be good too.

    Niners FO needs to calm the waters within the org. Perhaps the above scenario is best?

    Then get a functional OC please

  76. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Phil.
    This circus just continues to gain momentum.
    Hard not to I guess, since it was a swift separation on Sunday.

    I’m quietly fearful of the same scenario Rex went through with the NYJ.
    2 AFCCG appearances followed by implosion of the FO and Ownership.

    An interesting tidbit from the PC today for me was, the term ‘Teacher’.

    I agree we need a teacher but, that teacher needs to be a nanny for Kaep IMO.
    Neither Tomsula nor Fangio would fit that criteria for me.

    That said, I don’t want to lose either guy.
    If they can keep Fangio on as DC, great.

    This is a delicate venture because it goes back to the Nolan/Sing days of piece-meal Staff assembly.
    Keeping Jim and Vic and adding the QB teacher might be a good route to pursue.

  77. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, the best take away to me was of the hundreds of stories reported none were correct. This is usually what comes of stories supported by unnamed sources. ie: Deion, Crabs, Dilfer, you-pick-it.

    I like the “my account was hacked” angle, too. That’s the equivalent of the “I don’t recall” angle Hillary C. first made famous. Anyone that forgetful has no business running for president or dog catcher.

    If you’re going to hack someone’s account to post something in their name you don’t leave them their password access to go in and delete it. So I hear.

  78. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Absolutely NoFear49er.
    Which is why folks like us are left to speculate.

    The media is a non-stop cycle of stories being spun.
    Until such time that a principle steps up to a mic or in front of a camera and makes a statement, it’s all just ‘a report’.

    For me, football is about continuity.
    Good Organizations are well connected from top to bottom.
    Each piece doing his ALL for the common goal.

    As good as the Harbaugh hire was, the final chapter was a raging dumpster fire.
    I still can’t wrap my head around what could have been so bad?
    Maybe we’ll never know.

  79. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Who do you guys think is going to come in here from outside and be told he has no control over the roster and a bunch of coaches he’s required to keep? Oh and by the way, the last guy who went to three conference title games in the his four years was just sent packing.

    A highly ranked OC who can choose from other jobs where he has more of an opportunity to do things his way without a Super Bowl trophy or bust mentality hanging over his head?

    I’d say the deck is stacked against anyone. Did we really learn nothing by shoving Singletary into a job that he was not experienced enough to take on?

  80. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    My biggest concern in this phase is, just how you get a good ‘teacher’ for Kaep, while not giving that guy the HC gig?

    Gase or McDaniels might be excellent teachers but, neither guy is likely to accept a lateral move.

    To keep Vic they may have to give him the HC gig.
    Tomsula is an excellent Coach, I’ve got no beef with him but, there again, Vic could bolt, leaving the door open for more Staff upheaval.

    I’m inclined to dabble with Bevell and Quinn, just because we know what they can do.
    Bevell was a Favre guy along the way too. Nothing wrong with that.
    Quinn, an ex-9er, so he’ll always be welcome in my world, like Rathman.

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    You’re right NoFear49er, tough marriage for any newcomer, unless that guy is hungry for a shot and willing to eat some self respect.
    For that reason, I think Baalke looks at McDaniels and the Parcells/Belichick connections.

    We shall see?

    I’d simply prefer that Jed stays on the sideline and lets Baalke sink or swim.

    I’ve got to assume most GMs in this racket maintain authority over the roster so, that angle probably isn’t unique to us.

    I’d just hope Baalke and the future HC can work together closely enough, to facilitate a shared vision, on how to handle those decisions.

  82. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We’ve discussed it at length many times, Owners don’t know squat about football operations, stay far, far away.

    If the GM is good enough, he should have the job responsibilities to find a partner to run the team.

    Thought we had that with Jim?
    Back to the same old head scratcher, WTF went wrong?

  83. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, a big zone corner who can be used in run support cannot be expected to be a good player if asked to play a press/man system. Some edge rushers cannot play worth a shit if asked to play with a hand on the ground. A GM might have the final say over the roster but if he won’t take input from the HC it’ll be a miracle if they get a team that can compete in the post season.

    The point isn’t whether we can find a sad sack desperate enough to agree to work under any ridiculous conditions, it’s whether we can find the right guy and give him enough authority to implement his vision for a winning team.

    I’d say a HC, especially a first-timer, isn’t going to have the time to personally teach our QB. If we’re lucky, Kaepernick will seek out his own off-season coaching and the new HC will hire a QB coach to continue his development.

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s the trick NoFear49er, HC and GM sharing a common vision on what players need to be Drafted.
    I’d hate to think Baalke is myopic enough to force square pegs into round holes?

    Pete Carroll had ‘philosophical differences’ with his OC Jeremy Bates back when, prior to hiring Bevell.

    The only thing I can speculate on with Jim and Trent might have been Offense related as well?

    If they hire an Offense-minded HC, I agree with you, give that HC the latitude to have input on the players he needs to run it.
    That is the only way to find success IMO.

  85. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I read that Mangini is being sought across the Bay in Oakland for HC consideration.
    Curious to see where that goes, seeing as Trent and Eric have some history together.
    I’ve thought Eric was hanging around in hopes of furthering his career with Trent?
    He might not be a terrible backup option at DC if all else fails.

  86. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    KPIX Channel 5 is showing the Harbaugh-Michigan Coronation Press Conference live at 9am this morning.
    Didn’t know there were so many local Wolverines in the Bay Area.

  87. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    One option that has been discussed is bringing in Mike Shanahan, the guy both Montana and Steve Young have said publicly that he’s the guy to energize the offense. The big however is Shanahan accepting a job where he does not have final say in personnel matters. That might be a deal breaker.

    With that being said players on the team are lobbying for Vic Fangio to be promoted. Continuity would be a good thing for the defense. If Tomsula would accepted a promotion to the DC position and head assistant and they could then bring in someone like Marty Mornhinweg who was the architect of some potent offenses and bring in Jeff Garcia as the QB coach.
    Keeping Rathman, Leavitt and Donatell as assistants ensures the continuity.
    Promoting Fabgio seems to be the more likely scenario.

  88. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The danger of interviewing too many outside guys is when offered some of these guys turn you down and say so publicly and in fact sate their reasons as McDaniel and Linehan did last time around.
    McDaniels said he didn’t like the SF org so what makes them think he’s changed his mind?
    Last time he waould’ve been the wrong hire because he couldn’t envision turning this team into a winner and Harbaugh showed how it could be done.

  89. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear I’d say most coaches DONT make personnel decisions. That is was and will be the GMs job. He needs to find someone he can work with, sure, but the problem with this front office has always seemed to me to be a case of too many hands in the pie. Eddie said that back in 2010, and little had changed.

    Baalke’s daughter tweeting smack, now Harbaugh’s son may or May not have posted something on FB? Other reports have Harbs initiating contact with the Browns for leverage purposes. The world may never know.

    It’s a goddamn soap opera. As the football turns.

  90. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Shanny’s a no-go, Bullit. I look at his last stint on Washington and see a coach out of touch with his players. His handling of rgiii was not done very well. Much like Nolan with Smith.

  91. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh live press conference is on Channel 2 KTVU and ESPN and not on KPIX as I previously ststed

  92. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    McDaniels was an unmitigated disaster in Denver. What make you think anything would be different here?

    Shanahan energized the offense 20 years ago. He lost effectiveness about the time John Elway retired. You rail on me bringing up Carmichael and Hamilton and bring up these dregs?

    Party on, Garth . . .

  93. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Somebody kept insisting it was all about the money, but Harbaugh will be getting the same $5 mil a year with UM as he got here. It was never about the money.

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You keep pushing Pete Carmichael who might be OC in name only because it seems like Sean Payton is the guy who calls the plays.
    With that being said let’s hire a guy because he team just went 7-9 which is worse than the Niner finish which didn’t cut it.
    You name drop only, never offering your reasoning for why.
    Maybe it’s time you started.

  95. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gee, rubber bullit, Carmichael has been Drew Brees’ QB coach and coordinator for his entire career.

    Brees is usually near the top of every passing category for these last 9 years. I’m sure it’s purely coincidental. Doh!

    Tee ’em up and I’ll keep blasting them out of the park.

  96. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Uh, no, Skeebs. Quote from the article below: “Jim Harbaugh will make at least $7 million in his first year as Michigan’s new football coach.”

    http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2014/12/30/michigan-jim-harbaugh-contract/21047285/

    He has a ton of incentives and bonusses that run through the life of the 7 year deal.

    ………..

    It’s like batting practice around here.

    Not about the money? Head, meet sand.

  97. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Uh, Bullit, which offense is better? NO’s or SFs?

    Since you have absolutely no idea, NOs problem was their 31st ranked defense, not their #1 ranked offense.

    You seriously need to get a clue.

    CRACK! It’s outta here!

  98. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Two million signing bonus Chuck. It’s 5 per year. No where near your $10 mil / $50 mil posted over and over recently. A couple mil bonus is hardly all about money.

  99. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So the $2 mill signing bonus doesn’t count?

    The IRS begs to differ.

    Harbs is getting $7 mill this year. Is that not a raise? Fuzzy math there skippy.

    Please tell me otherwise.

    Yeah, a $2 mill bonus is pocket change. Christ, you and Bullit have left the station. Do you actually read what you type?

  100. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Keep trying, Chuck. This is your comment from the last thread: “As usual you offer inanities instead of answers, Skeebs. You were cool with giving Harbaugh 5/$40mill to continue?”

    That’s $8 mil per year. Try to follow along. Harbs yearly contract is $5 mil per for 7 years, with two 10% raises, one after three years, one after 5. His per year salary at max will barely top $6 mil. No where near the nonsense you proposed we should all be horrified by. And yes, $2 mil is a nice bonus, but hardly a world shaking, all about the money amount.

  101. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You said it wasn’t about the money. Hardly world-shaking? Says the guy renting a room in Flying V’s busted-ass trailer.

    – Is $7 mill more than $5 mill?

    – Is $6 mill more than $5 mill?

    I don’t give a shit how you feel about it. Harbaugh was angling for an extension/raise in early 2012. For power? No. For money.

    It isn’t all about the money, but it plays a big part in this saga. Harbaugh gets a lot more control over recruiting in college. His coaching style is much more suited for college. Rah rah and all that . . .

    Who’s got it better than us?

    Well, we’re better off now.

  102. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    And Chuck reluctantly discovers that hitting it out of the park into the bleachers behind home plate is just an ordinary foul ball.

  103. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Say you are Jed and you want Jim to stay, what should you have offered Harbaugh to stay the course?
    ________________________________________

    Just so you know, $2 mill on a $5 mill deal is a 40% bonus.

    No matter what you do (flip burgers), a 40% bonus is a big deal.

    Even $1 mill on a $5 mill deal is a 20% raise.

    Surely you don’t think that’s no big deal.

  104. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t remember all the angst or cries of it’s all about the money when a half-decent o-lineman who owes all his success to the team that took a chance on him when no one else would broke his contract and held out hurting the team when it WAS all about the money.

    The guy just let the team off the hook for $5M in guaranteed salary while being disparaged and forced out by the CEO. He’s all about the money to sign a deal that’s pretty close to what he had here but for the $2M bonus? Quite a stretch.

    No, you’re wrong about that. He could have set himself up in a bidding war quite easily and taken a year off at York’s expense to the tune of $5M. It’s only a few misguided souls around the bay area that think Harbaugh’s not as good a head coach as they are. Everyone else in the football world realizes the difficulty and the rarity of what he’s accomplished here.

  105. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    He’s a saint. God bless St. Jim. Sitting out a year would do 2 things for Jimbo.

    Allow the world to realize the Earth doesn’t revolve around him. And more importantly LOSE the opportunity to coach at U of M.

    Duh. Feeble. Sorry.

    Still no answers as usual. So you are part of the blank check crowd as well, NoFear?

    I think Jimbo had a pretty good idea he wouldn’t get a big payday from any NFL team. Hence the road to the big house. They overbid against themselves.

    When Brady Hoke was canned from much, I knew that would be Jim’s destination.

  106. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Mich, not much. Ac strikes again.

  107. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes you called the UM move for the Hendrix but on the money issue I have to ask “What is a SB worth?”

    Jimi showed that with a common vision FO+players+coaches he was the man to get them there. But York didn’t agree to pay him what he wanted to do it again. It really is not about winning the SB for York.

    It’s about the money he’s going to save not getting to the SB despite the York blather about “us holding him accountable”.

    Hey York you fired the best guy to win us a SB. You are accountable. A cheap accountable weasel.

    SB my ass. It’s about the money

  108. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, you got it backwards. For Harbaugh it was about the money. For Jed it wasn’t.

    Jed/Baalke had tired of Harbaugh’s antics. Like Mark Jackson and the Warriors, despite the wins, they felt the need to make the move.

    $25 mill for an untested NFL coach is hardy peanuts. Call it retarded or brilliant, for Jed it wasn’t about the money.

  109. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Somebody’s got it backwards.

    “BREAKING NEWS: Straight from UM AD Jim Hackett. Harbaugh’s salary will be roughly $5M a year, plus incentives, same basic contract as 49ers.
    — John U. Bacon (@Johnubacon) December 30, 2014”

    Jim Harbaugh told Hackett he did NOT want to be the highest paid coach in CFB, or even the Big Ten. More concerned with pay for assistants.
    — John U. Bacon (@Johnubacon) December 30, 2014”

    A bit more detail: Harbaugh contract is approximately $5 million for 7 years, with incentives. Clearly, Michigan would like him to stay.
    — John U. Bacon (@Johnubacon) December 30, 2014”

  110. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    “Well, we’re better off now.”

    Here’s one from deadspin, like the rest of the world.
    http://deadsp.in/1vlywB3

  111. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I wonder how many times we’ll be reminding Chuck of his “We’re better off now” quote over the coming years before the Humane Society steps in and gives us a citation for cruelty to animals.

  112. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Lol Skeebs, good question.

    Let’s see = 1 for each loss over 4 years should equal 32 X?

  113. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Jed/Baalke had tired of Harbaugh’s antics…they felt they need to make the move.

    $25 mill for an untested NFL coach is hardy peanuts. Call it retarded or brilliant, for Jed it wasn’t about the money.”

    I’ll call it retarded.

    Yeah those antics getting to the SB were sure tiresome weren’t they? For Yorkey.

    I suspect the rest of us would have been pretty pleased to give an employee a nice raise and bonus after the SB run. But not the tightwad duo.

    Most definitely not going to get a raise from the ‘money man’.

    Idiots

  114. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    For anyone concerned about what York pays his coaches I have a question I’ll ask for the 3rd time:

    “What is a Super Bowl worth to the Forty Niners?”

    Follow up for extra credit:

    “Who is the best coach to get this team to SB again?”

  115. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Remember Chuck is concerned what Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder are going to say if they give their coach a pay bump.
    What a troll.

  116. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    York is the most popular owner in the NFL including Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder. Mainly because the Niners are not a threat to beat their team as previously. Yorkey is popular with the owners but reviled by fans and feared by coaching prospects.

    What is a SB worth York?

  117. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    All this angst for an 8-8 coach? If you guys haven’t noticed, Harbaugh is trending down.

    Gee, Skeebs. Hoping for your team to suck is pretty bad for a guy who runs a 49er blog. A team who doesn’t even have a coach, and you want him to fail so you can gloat in on your blog?

    Gee, I’ll feel so bad if you have to remind me of something.

    Hyuk! What a f**&ing idiot. Even more stupid, Bullit would be happy to see Mike Shanahan here. Shanahan! And who knows wqhat your 7:08 post is about. More brain leakage obviously.

  118. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, do you think Harbaugh’s offense would suddenly jump from 28th to 10th next year? This offense is bad. If we kept Harbaugh we would have kept Roman. Which means another year of a bland offensive attack.

    This is the thing that NONE of you guys address. What dynamic sea-change happens across the board to make this offense sudden’y become a well=oiled machine?

    Nothing in the past 3 years would have pointed to this offense getting better than 20th in the league. Is that enough to win a Super Bowl?

    Slightly possible if your defense plays lights-out. Even as it did this year, there’s just little room for error.

  119. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Loved Harbaugh’s Michigan presser today. He’s a goddamn hero in Michigan,

    He talked of his desire to be the head coach at Michigan. How he’d been dreaming of it since he was a child.

    The timing worked out pretty well, didn’t it? And, since this is the tin foil hat crowd, I’d have to wonder if Harbaugh sabotaged his future here for his ‘dream’ job in the big house.

  120. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Calling Harbaugh an 8-8 coach is all anyone needs to know to understand your mindset.

    All we needed on offense is a healthy starting roster and a little improvement from the QB position.

    No coach you can name or remember could have done better with such a depleted roster and struggling QB as Harbaugh had to work with this year. And all you see is 8-8 must be intentional. You’ve got no business calling anyone a tinfoil hat. You’re so wrapped up in own bullshit now you can’t even see your way out.

  121. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Where’s the offense?

    2014 – 20 San Francisco 5239
    2013 – 24 San Francisco 5180
    2012 – 11 San Francisco 5789
    2011 – 26 San Francisco 4974

    Kappy injected life into it for half of one year, but other than that . . .

  122. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Fangio did a shitload more with a lot less.

  123. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You, sir, are a tin foil hat.

    I haven’t seen Harbaugh smile so much in 4 years of pressers than I did today in his 15 minutes in Michigan. Like I said, maybe he WANTED out. He looked completely burned out after that Seattle game. Beaten lost and confused as to why shit wasn’t going right.

    Saying Harbaugh took the high road by not sitting out the year and collecting his money from Jed, as you stated earlier, is so off the mark as to be ludicrous. That’s all I need to know about your mind-set. Means well, but juuuust a bit off target.

    Harbs walks into Ann Arbor a conquering hero with $41 mill in his pocket and nothing accomplished. He’s laughing, he’s joking, he’s in his element. Savior. He apparently has a God complex.

    Wonder what things will be like in the Big House in 4 years.

  124. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Still waiting for ‘somebody’ to answer the question:

    “How much is a SB worth to the Niners?”

    That’s my 4th request but guess it’s more fun to say “He wanted too much” than try to answer the question.

    Don’t worry Yorkey couldn’t answer it either.

    Even tho for York it is about the money not about returning to the Super Bowl as claimed.

  125. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Phil, do you think Harbaugh’s offense would suddenly jump from 28th to 10th next year? This offense is bad. If we kept Harbaugh we would have kept Roman”

    Here’s what I honestly think about the Niners since our SB appearance:

    After the SB Hendrix asked for more money and it was denied. I say it was a monumental error to not reward Jimi in some way shape or form he could feel he was appreciated. This followed a 2012 draft and season which was a bust and provided zero new players to help us in 2012 and until now. Roman recently called out, I believe, Looney so that’s a total zero.

    This is on Balkey but it is my opinion that Jimi took the heat within the Niners for the weakened roster going forward. 2013 provided some help but more injured players too so we waited until 2014 to reload at WR, RB, DL, Ol. But

    But the weaknesses could not be overcome by a good 2014 draft especially with the lack of progress in extending Hendrix and the horrendous injuries this year.

    So for me the question is IF we had a good WR, not AJ, a good RB not LMJ or Latimore and kept some good players like Dixon =
    “Would our O have kept declining?”

    My answer is No but I do not exclude the GM, OC or York from the equation either. Balkey marched us into 2013 with nothing but Boldin at WR, thin at RB. York failed to support Hendrix in any meaningful way which means he failed to support the players and coaches adequately. The OC let us down this year particularly but so did injuries and lack of FO support.

    It took a lot of cooks to make this stew. One casualty is a lack of trust in Niner mgmt. These guys failed to support the team they built/inherited. The O is a reflection of the organizational decline going on since the SB IMO.

  126. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil it’s been a mixed bag of issues in many respects.

    Yes, I’d prefer to have Jed staying clear of the football side of things.
    Whether Jim wanted a raise or not, Jed seems to have suggested the obvious yesterday, to paraphrase, ‘we don’t raise banners’ unless they’re SB victories.

    He expected more and, fairly or not, he put that on Jim.

  127. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He’s looking more and more like the reason for the discord from everything I’ve read in recent weeks.
    Obviously Jed and Jim have had their issues.
    Maybe moreso than the reports of issues between he and Trent?

    Right or wrong, Jed is the boss. We’re stuck with that fact unfortunately.

    I don’t agree with his impatience but, after watching the on-field meltdown this year, it was obvious the team suffered.
    He’s made his decision, he’ll have that on his watch now.

    He’s looking more and more like former NYY Owner George Steinbrenner.
    A meddling Owner who put undue pressure on his organization to win.
    Losing the last 3 games vs Seattle likely was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

    I’m a fan, like everyone else kvetching here and elsewhere.
    We all want to win. Losing sucks.

    As NoFear49er suggests, this sort of sh!t sours potential candidates from taking us seriously.

    If he’s going to put Baalke in charge of the football side of the house, let him do his thing with the HC and get lost.

    Baalke lured Jim here initially, so I trust he knew then that Jim could be successful, and largely, he was.
    Had the Offense improved maybe things could’ve been different?

    Now, we’re at the mercy of another Coaching change.
    Jed owns this one now.
    For all of us, I hope he lands on his feet.

  128. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Have a Happy New Year my friend –

    I hope our 9ers can recover from this embarrassment.

  129. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

  130. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks NJ and same to you this New Years!

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas: L 10-40
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia: L 10-33
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona: L 10-20
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants: W 31-21
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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