Raiders 24, 49ers 13

The 49er season, and probably the Jim Harbaugh era, came to an ignominious end Sunday in Oakland. The team is in such disarray and so riddled with injuries that it’s difficult to see them winning another game this season.

The 49ers didn’t just lose to the one win Raiders, they were soundly beaten on both sides of the ball. The defense got no pressure, the makeshift secondary couldn’t cover, the offense ran the ball effectively, but chose to mostly pass ineffectively. It was the Niners who looked like a team that had only won one game all year.

It took most of the season, but the past two opponents finally realized Patrick Willis and Navorro Bowman weren’t playing ILB for the Niners this year. The Seahawks and Raiders have single-mindedly torched our backups. Chris Culliver went down with an injury in this game, leaving not a single starting CB in the lineup, and the nickel corner a guy signed off the street a couple of weeks ago, Leon McFadden.

The offensive line lost its starting center a few weeks back, played most of the year without starting RT Anthony Davis, saw Alex Boone turn into a liability, and never got settled the entire season. It’s mercifully over now.

Of course, the Harbaugh-is-gone rumors have swirled round the team all year and clearly cast a pall over the players concentration and focus. These rumors had to have originated with the Niner Front Office, so take a bow suits, your campaign to force out Harbaugh at whatever cost has probably born fruit. Be careful what you wish for, though. If the next HC can’t cut it, guess who’s going to get the blame?

In some ways, this loss is a relief. Hanging to a thread of hope week after week is painful. This team, this year, just didn’t have it.

Not that it matters to most fans, who are going to want to see some blood spilled to pay for this disastrous season. Obviously, that blood will be Harbaugh’s and OC Greg Roman. If Harbaugh goes, it’s likely DC Vic Fangio goes with him. It’ll be square one next season, with a tumultuous offseaon ahead of us.

Time to dig in, load up on the popcorn, and get ready for the fireworks.




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  1. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    “Mercifully over.”

    Umm, no. It’s not. There are still three potentially merciless games left in which to see how deep the rabbit hole goes. Not just on the field, but far worse, in the locker room and the FO.

    The media will be circling like sharks, trying to get Ahmad Brooks and Baalke’s daughter and Pedro the Waterboy to weigh in on this sorry shit.

    We’re not as bad in the standings as when the last three regimes went up in a ball of internet flames, but we’re just as rudderless and lacking in clues.

    Brace Yourselves: Winter is Coming, and she is gonna be a stone cold Bitch.

  2. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “These rumors had to have originated with the Niner Front Office, so take a bow suits, your campaign to force out Harbaugh at whatever cost has probably born fruit. Be careful what you wish for, though”

    I’m not waiting to blame the FO led by Low Balls and Short Shit. I’ve been on it for awhile now. Yes Skeebs the ‘sabotage by media’ campaign has had a big success today, thanks for affirming this POV.

    Funny thing is there are ‘hope addicts’ out there who think it’s a good thing- and was a good thing last year when the ‘trade Hendrix’ stuff came out.

    Fine, we’ll see but I doubt it will be a success for the team any time soon. Not just a successful failure as it is today.

    When you engineer your own failure willfully it’s not so easy to right the ship despite what the geniuses up front think.
    Players and coaches, now us fans, are highly skeptical of the leadership of this train wreck.

    So Tomsula loses out the string it will say the players/coaches are unlikely to buy in any time soon.

    No one has any fun on the last train to shitsville

  3. JonNo Gravatar says:

    You could see it coming for a long time. I don’t think u have to blow it up, but just tweak a few things on the offensive side of the ball. Someone need’s to open the “vault” of play’s Bill left and someone call those play’s. Next paySteve Young a million dollars to coach Kap and find out if he can play.

  4. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy the shit goes deep down the rabbit hole- all the way to the top. It wasn’t enough for our dear leaders to go to the SB, they wanted to trade Hendrix pronto the next season b/c he was too, too…good for them. Sadly. How F -ed up is that?

    Good luck Tomsula, we’ll see if the good vibes can persuade these men to play some football and fans to believe again. I do not expect any more wins on the shitsville express for a while

  5. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Message to next Niner coach not named Tomsula = “GO to a SB , we’ll trade your ass”

    Brilliant

  6. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Nobody wants to give the Raiders any credit, I will. They played way beyond their record. They beat us up on both sides of the ball. Meanwhile, Kaepernick turned in another below par performance on the road. That’s execution, for those who think it’s something more difficult to discern.

    Our defense is beat up and we struggled to cover any zones or close on any ball carriers/receivers. I doubt we planned on playing catch up against the Raiders. Pass, pass, pass and the QB wasn’t up to it and the Raiders D line weren’t going miss the opportunity to exploit the weaknesses on our o-line.

    This is the first year in the Harbaugh era we’ve been plagued with injuries and yet folks can’t get on the dump the coaches train fast enough.

  7. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Message to the blind, deaf and dumb:

    We fans are for the most part far far behind the originators of the ‘dump Hendrix’ happy train. Wrack your brain and recall who wanted to ‘trade’ Hendrix to Cleveland after the SB appearance.

    The fans, the poor ignorant fans? Now who’s driving this train to shitsville? The fans?

  8. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Check.
    Mate.
    Tilt.
    Game Over.

    10 days of preparation and, we looked no better today, than we have in the past several weeks.

    Offense is, and has been, offensive.

    Injuries, scheme, execution, whatever, we play checkers, opponents play chess.

    We just got schooled by Sparano, a nobody OC and a rookie QB.

    No more excuses.
    Putrid display of determination from a team seeking a Playoff run.

    Blame whomever you care to blame.
    This team lacks an identity, heart, focus and, most of all, determination.

    Kaep looks like a deer in the headlights.
    Who’s preparing the guy in charge of the Offense?

  9. EarlNo Gravatar says:

    Winder stands alone.

  10. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er,

    Geep Chryst -> Roman -> Harbaugh.

    Kaepernick is showing so many problems in areas that cannot be coached, Bill Walsh himself might throw in the towel pretty soon if he doesn’t show some signs of “getting” the pro QB game.

  11. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er, whatever it is, Kaep looks horrid.
    I’m wondering if he could hit water if fell out of the boat?

    Something has to change.
    Be it Chryst, Roman whomever, Harbaugh apparently doesn’t see anything wrong.
    That, in and of itself, means Jed needs to force a move within that Staff.
    This product is GARBAGE.

  12. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The Rams are a better team, without a QB.
    We’re out Coached, out schemed, out executed and, out performed, week after week.

    We truly are the definition of insanity.

    We have no place in a Playoff race.
    We flat out don’t deserve it.

  13. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If losing Drevno has had any impact on the O-Line, Solari shouldn’t be spared any scrutiny either.
    Injuries happen to everyone, unfortunate as it might be, we show no ability to find anything that works.

    If changing Coaches doesn’t work, Baalke needs to be scrutinized as well.

    I don’t feel the talent is substandard at this point.
    I just think the team isn’t buying in any longer.

  14. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, Harbaugh’s played the position. I guarantee you he sees something wrong. It doesn’t help the struggling QB to call him out to the public in a presser.

    I think one of the problems Harbaugh and his staff have is that they believe so much in their game plan they stick to it to the bitter end.

    I look at it as a battle plan. The best of them go to shit with the first shots fired. They (the plan and the coaches) must be able to adapt to the situation as it unfolds.

    However, I can see that if sticking to the plan has accounted for the W/L record under Harbaugh he might well be justified in thinking he should.

  15. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    If everyone’s so sure all we are is crap and it won’t get better until the coaches are replaced, what’s all the angst about every week?

    If the same coaches keep showing up, doesn’t expecting we will play a better game fit Einstein’s definition of insanity even better?

  16. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er if I had the answers, I’d likely be working in the NFL myself.
    I’m challenging the system in which they’re operating I guess.
    You don’t fire the players certainly but, Coaching could rearrange the players to find a scheme that changes tendencies no?

    Hearing Joe, Crabtree and Miller suggest that ‘schemes’ are fooling anyone suggests a need to find another approach IMO.

    Are they capable is the question.
    Kaep looks like a deer in the headlights to me.
    Rattled, unsure, hurried.

    He’s regressed.
    We appear to b stuck between Pistol and Pocket without any options to improve apparently.
    I, like most everyone else, am just frustrated and looking for something, anything, to light a fire under this team.

    They’re flat and disinterested.
    Damned if I can understand why?

  17. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    ‘Schemes AREN’T fooling anyone’, is what I meant to convey.

  18. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, I’m not expecting Harbaugh to call Kaep out either.
    Simply searching for a glimmer of hope to improve Kaep’s ability to function Offensively.
    The current business as usual approach changes nothing.
    He’s not seeing the field properly, and is making more bone-headed throws now than he was 2 years ago.

    Where to go, what to do?
    I’m not sure what the answer is.

    It seems to me the Offense, on the whole, isn’t benefiting Kaep or the players in general.
    Changing the scheme was something they collectively set out to do after last season.
    Results are worse now.

  19. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    And that’s why players ought to use a little more discretion when talking to press.

    I think Staley was talking about o-line blocking schemes and Crabtree was bitching about the Seahawks D’s scheming him. when he wasn’t bitching about being the third down receiver. Miller? Stupid thing to say, as if he can’t be expected to play better if the defense wasn’t fooled. How many times do any power running teams fool the defense when they line up with two TEs on the line and a FB in the backfield?

    But folks want to reinforce their opinions so latch onto anything they can make sound like it supports their view. In my view any player bad mouthing their team or coaches to the public should be suspended for conduct detrimental.

  20. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hard to argue that the results aren’t worse, NJ49er. I remember trying to make the point last year that maybe the reason we ran as much as we did is because we couldn’t run a passing game. Of course, the blog brainiacs pooh-poohed that idea and blamed the ‘conservative’ and ‘gutless’ coaches. I think that’s when a certain idiot started to spout off that I was a fan of Singletary’s offense. Just shows to go ya.

  21. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Now you think you know what the players are talking about? You and Bullitt.

    This was another shitty game. WQhat I thought was interesting was, once they started throwing short passes and rolling Kawpwernick to the right, they scored a TD. So, of course they stopped doign that and went back to the medium-long passing game that hasn’t worked at all since the first Ram game.

    To all of you who think Harbaugh should get a raise after this debacle should seriously get their heads examined. All these guys have played their part in the current miasma of ugliness, but in the end, it’s Harbaugh’s job to get the team ready for games.

    They aren’t even close to being prepared at any given point.

  22. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As they say NoFear49er, opinions are like a$$holes, we all have one.
    I don’t have issues with anyone voicing opinions, that’s what goes on in places like this.

    I’m sure we all seek improvement.
    If this game was easy, there wouldn’t be so many Coaching changes every year.

    We knew Kaep was going to be a project at the Pro level.
    I’m wondering if Harbaugh & Co can get him there?

    I understand that players need to execute, that’s a given.
    It’s just looking like the frustration level within the rank and file has been mailing it in to me.

    If that means wholesale roster changes, so be it.
    If it means another Coaching style, that’s in play too I suppose.

    Not hard to see the results of late.
    Offensive output is stagnant.

  23. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Kaepernick came into the league a talented guy who threw and ran with confidence. Now he’s throwing off the wrong foot unsure of when to stay or go, and missing guys with regularity. The team tries to rebuild his confidence with these ill-formed pass plays that seem to have no chance of working. When do you see guys wide open? When do you see a clean pocket? You don’t.

    Harbaugh has gone from holding Andrew Luck back in college to destroying Kaepernick. He’s not the QB whisperer, he’s the QB Killer.

    He can’t be gone fast enough. If Roman isn’t gone, I just don;t know what to think. How much shittier canm this offfense play until someone says hmmm, should we change things up?

    It’s Mike Nolanitis. Stay the course. Thousand points of light.

    Here’s a clue Jimbo, the thousand points of light is a broken mirror.

  24. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    It fosters the age old debate of players and system fits.
    If there’s a divide between Baalke and Jim, on what each sees as the right balance, nothing will improve.

    As Chuck suggests, why can’t we find a scheme balance at least?
    The good old Game Plan.
    Those 20-25 plays that work best.
    I just don’t think we have that approach to fit, or find weaknesses against the opponent each week.

    I’ve lobbied for a WCO-flavor if, for nothing else, than to get a rhythm going.
    Short timing routes force more precision.
    Kaep seems hell bent on chunk yardage plays, either by design or his insistence on executing them.

    Something is broken.
    Be it scheme, or the QB running it.

    With 10 days to prepare for a 1-11 team.
    The 1-11 team was more prepared and, more determined, to win the game.

  25. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The same 1-11 team that got shut out BIG last week bounced back.
    What did we do?
    Business as usual.

  26. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Did Harbaugh hold back Andrew Luck at Stanford? Or is this another Chuck myth? Luck’s 2011 numbers at Stanford 3517 yds passing 37 TDs. This year Marcus Mariota the likely Heisman QB
    3783 yds passing 38 Tds.
    Similar numbers but Chuck says the usual crap because he is clueless.

  27. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Niner gameplan was flawed because they went with what they don’t do well, they tried to pass 33 times and ran the ball 18 times. Gore ran 12 times for 63 yds 5.3 yds per carry.
    They should’ve run the ball down the Raiduh’s throats but they went the other way and the Niner’s managed only248 yds total offense.

  28. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s the crux of what’s being debated Bullit.
    Why do we have so many issues being successful?

    I don’t get it.
    We stumble and bumble like a bunch of masochists on parade.
    We seem to enjoy pain.

  29. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    They showed a little glimmer of hope on the underneath stuff too.
    That quickly went away as well.
    Simple logic would suggest, that you stack plays together, that you execute well against a given opponent.

    How many bone-headed throws from Kaep does it take, before you realize he isn’t doing anything but wasting time and, killing momentum?
    Same garbage week after week.
    Run down the play clock, waste time-outs etc.

    I’m not averse to sitting him at this point, just to see what Gabbert has learned thus far.
    Can it really get any worse?

  30. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Key to success in any endeavor = identify your strengths and build on them. Identify weaknesses and stay away from them.

    Running game working = stick with it

    Short passing game working = stick with it

    No huddle working….but no.

    So They (FO) will let a few more losses build up and fans are even more upset at HC/OC then, eventually wham.

    Hendrix will keep grinding away even as the team disintegrates. He’ll go down with the ship and the OC.

    At some point recently our discussions went from “execution” vs “coaching” to a consensus that “It’s coaching no question”. Tho a lot of bad execution going on too. It adds up to Losses and means changes coming

  31. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It says a lot when you cannot run a hurryup offense and you still waste 25 seconds getting plays off.
    How do you stand there barking signals when the clock is at 5 seconds and you’re still moving guys around? How does a QB lose track of the play clock? Our QB sometimes takes 5 seconds just staring at the defense while the clock runs down.

  32. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil glad to see the coconut internet is functional at least.
    Good for you.
    I guess the weather passed without incident?

    All I can say is, Humpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall, crash and burn style.

    Pathetic display of Offensive football.
    No one knows from this vantage point what took place but, the results are maddening.

    Both Harbaugh and Kaep seem to be avoiding the obvious, it ain’t workin’.

  33. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Deer in the headlights Bullit.
    I can’t explain it either.

    He’s looking like RG III of late.
    No purpose, no command of the situation he’s entrusted with play to play.
    If this is what Harbaugh and Roman have devised to simplify things what more can be said?
    It sux.

  34. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We’ve averaged 14.8pts/game over the last 6.
    Kaep struggles with touch.
    He struggles with Defensive recognition too.
    Hence, the wasted pre-snap nonsense.

    Motion, motion, motion all to same end, another play or series that bogs down of fails.
    If he can’t run what’s being called, it’s time to try another option perhaps.
    Let’s see what Gabbert has learned?

  35. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    I was laughed at by the apologists when I said ball placement was more important than fastballs. On the pass to Hyde if he led him properly it would’ve been a TD but Hyde had to slow down because the ball was thrown behind him and that split second it took him to gather made a huge difference.

    Kap almost got Boldin killed by the safety a few weeks ago and today he threw a ball that led Stevie Johnson into a kill shot by the safety.

  36. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit it’s all relative, opinions are personal.
    People have their view of things, which is all that can be asked of anyone with a pulse.
    I try to be objective, putting aside the ‘9er colored’ glasses and seeing what is happening on game days.

    Kaep lacks a lot, he’s developing, I expected some rough patches.
    What I don’t expect, nor can I tolerate any longer, are the constant brain farts taking place week after week.

    I’ve agreed with your assessment as well.
    He’s a target shooter but, he’s missing badly of late.

    If he’s not being Coached out of these habits, he’s not doing much to improve his game either.

    He’s got weapons, a lot of them.
    Be it the scheme, the execution or whatever, it’s looking worse and worse.

    His mechanics suck, his attitude sucks and, his team mates appear to be fading away in their support of him.

    Totally incompetent product being displayed this season.
    Pin blame wherever you feel it belongs but, the QB runs the Offense.

    When he’s stinking it up, I’ll call him out on it, for whatever that gets me anyway.

  37. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I seriously have to wonder if his calls are impacting blocking assignments too?
    Last week when Boone did the butt cheek tap, either Kaep or the RB missed it, allowing Bennett to come through clean and destroy the play.

    Is that Coaching?
    I don’t see it that way.
    Someone has to have a brain to function with in the Offensive back field.
    I’m beyond aggravated at this point.
    There’s an obvious stalemate occurring between Coaches/Players and the FO.

    No easy fix I’m sure. Plenty of blame to throw around but, the HC has to see that the results from Kaep are less than stellar.

    Perhaps both are just too stubborn to admit it ain’t working?

  38. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NJ storm still coming in slowly. We’re not in the center and live in a very secure concrete and steel place so no worries. Some places have just been blasted tho. I’ve seen much worse in No. Calif too.

    Speaking of “Both” (execution/coaching) I think in terms of the Hendrix vs Kap question it also is both. Meaning Kap obviously needs coaching/mentoring to improve and Hendrix needs a better OC to help with the play calling, schemes, game planning. Both need help to improve. Alternative is to rebuild completely. New OC + above supports for minimum.

    May be too late for the HC tho. Berger was suggesting something like this for the O but I think Kap really needs it too. Both.

    Still think Jimi is good HC but over his head in running the O attack. Same with Kap. Roman tho, yikes. Maybe Jed the leaker will go this route rather than start over w/ new HC and QB.

    So who should we draft for next year at QB?

  39. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Some are speculating that even more than Hendrix it is Kaepernick that is losing the team. Meaning players tired of uncatchable fastballs, inaccurate throws, poor decisions, locking onto targets, etc. Some say players on O are now less supportive of Kap. Also his attitude isn;t helping in his leadership skillset.

  40. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I was one stating my opinions on whether Kaep is losing support from his targets Phil.
    Body language from Crabtree being the most obvious to me in recent weeks.

    Kaep isn’t handling the media pressure or the game pressure with any sort of confidence either.

    Agree with you regarding the OC/system he’s being taught in, perhaps not fitting his style of play.
    We seem to have run aground somewhere between Pistol and Pocket.
    He’s looked lost.

    Add the constant play clock gaffs and lackluster O-Line play and we have the results we have.

    I’d agree with Berger about shaking up the Roman angle too.
    My guess is, it’s been talked about within the ranks and likely doesn’t sit well with Harbaugh, nor should it.

    If Baalke or Jed come down and force the move, there’s going to have to be a replacement in house at this point, which may not exist?

    Totally off the rails now.
    All we can do is see what comes..

    As far as I’m concerned, the QB has regressed and the scheme he’s operating with isn’t working.

    As of today, my 9er flag has been taken down for the season because I don’t see anything promising for the remainder of the month.

    Sad but, plainly obvious to me, we can’t be a threat to anyone, in the condition we’re in now.
    Rams are playing better and, they could surpass us before it’s over.

  41. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Colin Kaepernick needs to grow up and assume his role as leader of the team and the face of the franchise.

    Talking trash and engaging with the opposing defense is stupid because you lose focus. You cannot afford even 10 seconds after a play is over to engage in this behavior. You need to get the play in from the sidelines and rally your team to execute it.
    If the defense has you going toe to toe and talking back then they have you.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/08/sio-moore-on-colin-kaepernick-hes-a-chump/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

  42. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Remember when I said I was hesitant to give Kap the long term big deal because he was unproven.
    Remember Chuck was willing to pay him whatever he asked, at one point $25 mil a year because he was convinced someone would snatch him up because he would dominate the league?
    I was called a Kap hater and all kinds of things because I saw that Kap was an incomplete QB. He dazzles when he does what he does best well. It’s spectacular. However when you take things he’s comfortable with and force him into throws he doesn’t like you just might stop him.

    I was willing to let him go through this season without an extension and let him prove he deserved a fat contract or put the franchise tag on him.

    The only saving grace is the contract he signed has an out for the Niners which they might be wise to explore.

    With Kap’s shortcomings come the weekly excuses that it’s not his fault and everyone else is to blame. Kap will never get better if he doesn’t recognize himself that he needs to change
    to be a viable championship QB in the NFL.

  43. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    I saw your post about George Whitfield and how he could help Kap.
    I said that in the offseason because I thought he needed ouside help with his footwork and according to NFL rules he is limited to what he can do with the Niner staff in the offseason. That’s why he needed to work with Whitfield or a Steve Clarkson or the guy he should really see, Tom House.
    House would help him now to stop his digression and correct some of his flaws.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwi-WFb9kV8

  44. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    They should have gone after Chris Ault when he was available.

    Right Bullit. I was the only one who wanted to sign Kappy. No one else here or anywhere thought that. Keep up with the childish games.

  45. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Frank Gore is sadly admitting what is obvious to everyone in the known universe except two local idiots: “He’s the quarterback. I feel like every team, whatever quarterback is on each team, it starts with them.”

    It’s not rocket science. If your QB sucks, it doesn’t matter what plays are called.

  46. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    And if your backup QB sucks, too, you’re stuck with watching shit each week.

  47. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Yesterday’s loss was a total team effort. I don’t know what is wrong with Kappy but I do know he has the ability to be a premier QB in this league. You can only blame coaching for so much, a player has to perform their positions properly. Kappy has sucked bigtime. This is not the same guy that opened the season at Dallas. He signed a very cap friendly contract that gives the team some operating room, it was a very important gesture. i don’t know what gives but I don’t see Jed or Ballke(sp) destroying morale. That would be really stupid and I just don’t see it.

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Your amnesia kicking in again? You were the big voice of signing Kap at any price to “lock him up”. IIRC you said $23 to $25 mil a year no problem.
    I even said that a Barry Zito scenario was being set up and you scoffed at that and now you conveniently forget.
    Some here said to wait until he really proved himself but you said it was a slam dunk that he would lead this team to glory.

    Nobody here felt as strongly as you not even the other Kap apologist.

  49. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    We’ve got the same problem as they’ve got in Washington with RGIII. QB’s with tons of talent who either can’t or won’t learn how to play the position and give off the air of entitlement. RG’s now sitting behind Colt McCoy, who was our backup last year, and said when he left that he learned more about playing QB in his one year here than he’d learned in all his previous NFL years.

  50. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Why did Alex smith suck for 6 years, Skeebs? I told you it was the coaching. 5 bad games and you give up on Kaepernick? Good for you.

    What’s funny is all the people clamoring for Harbaugh to stay are willing to throw out HIS QB. You know, the one that got them to a Super Bowl and 2 NFC Championship games.

  51. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh a just jealous of Kappy. He knows that Kappy is better than he’ll ever be, so he’s killing his progress.

    At least I think I overheard Tom Rathman say that to Dana Stubblefield in the parking lot yesterday.

  52. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck says he has no idea what’s wrong with the team but he’ll throw it in your face for at least a week if you have any ideas about it. C’mon, that’s funny.

    Really. If he has no ideas it must be an unknowable. Otherwise worlds crumble.

  53. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    All 3 delay of game penalties happened on 3rd down.
    Coincidentally after the penalties passes were completed that all would’ve moved the chains and made the first down making the penalty insurmountable.

    It is beyond me how a QB can be staring at the play clock and not see that it’s going to strike 0. It used to be they weren’t getting the plays in fast enough and it was on the coaching staff. What we do know is the communication from the sideline cuts off at 15 seconds so this is on Kap to get the play off. Can’t even think how you as a QB let this keep happening and hurting your team.

  54. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Jaworski was just on NFL Live on ESPN showing a play where Gore was wide open in the right flat which would’ve been a walk in TD and instead threw the ball out of the end zone. Red zone opportunity lost. Kap continually has ignored the RBs who seem to be open in the flat game after game. That is an easy throw and Gore knows what to do with the ball and will get some YAC.
    This crap that Kap has nobody OPEN to throw to is total BS.
    You send 4 receivers out and 3 of them might be tightly covered.
    It’s up to the QB to scan the field to find the guy that’s open.
    Carr did so consistently yesterday and found the open man.

  55. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Catt was under absolutely no pressure all day. Kap was sacked 5 times. Gee, think the line injuries lay in to the overall struggle of the offense?

    Some of us can tell the diff between good blocking and poor. 4+ seconds to throw usually results in a completion. See the Bear game for another example of our defense getting no pressure.

    Some of us look for narratives to push.

  56. robNo Gravatar says:

    Ok guys
    you want a fight ? You want to call a spade a spade?
    Well i’ll give it to you all rite now.
    Wanna play the blame game ? Well here it is right now
    Injuries , holdouts and distractions … 40percent
    Oline issues (see above) 20 percent. Coaching/OC 35 percent. QB 5 percent.

  57. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    On the play that Jaworski analyzed Kap was getting no pass rush yet decided to throw one high that went through the end zone.
    Kap was not under duress yet he pulled the trigger.
    When the All 22 on this play comes out later in the week it will show you the exact thing I’m talking about and explain Kap’s psyche.

  58. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Now post, ROB!!!! Correctamundo.

    Kap’s psyche? Oh, do tell, Bullit. I can hardly wait.

    You really think this shit MATTERS?!? So do we go all-in on Maiota? Or should we wait til after the fact for you latest pronouncement?

  59. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Winder I wrote a couple months ago that there was no way the FO was trying to get rid of Hendrix behind our backs. Scoffing at Spitwad. I have changed positions due to learning more info on the ongoing leaks, innuendos media campaign. Now heard about the Comcast outlet campaign of “Hendrix Lies”. Hard to believe but coupled with the weak support of FO since the trade attempt when this campaign started it is what the facts suggest = covert attack on Hendrix by the FO. Unbelievable yes but sadly logical.

    On the Rob scale of culpability I place 1/3 on each party = FO, Kap, coaches.

  60. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Injuries and holdouts, suspensions yes have their place making it maybe 25% plus 25% for FO, OC, Kap.

    Between the QB and the OC that’s 50% for this season but really the FO and I, H, and S as above are anothe 50% which totals 100% pure steaming crap

  61. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Phil _ I don’t discount your info but the way this has panned out everyone loses. If I’m Jed I want a winner for the new stadium, if I’m Harbaugh I want to show management that they are wrong and produce another winner. If i am the players I want the respect of the league and play to my best ability. Something died in ninerland and the fallout has definitely spread to gameday.

  62. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes this is the symptom of some rot somewhere w/in Ninerland. You are rational and likely not ‘passive-aggressive’ (or why would you question this approach openly) so of course it does not, cannot, be true and I’ve felt the same way up until recently. What owner wants to damage his team to gain some secondary goal = removing the HC?

    But dysfunction, which we have, is NOT rational except in the mind of the one(s) perpetrating it. To them it makes perfect sense. “Let’s see I don’t want to appear as the bad guy so I’ll talk to the local and national contacts to go about discrediting my enemy covertly”. To outsiders like you and I this appears as it is = irrationally nuts. It’s also a perfect recipe for wrecking the functioning of any group as insiders will see this, experience it, and conclude “Screw this, I’m taking care of me”.

    Other problems soon crop up like limitations w/ QB, OC, HC and due to the crisis environment are not, cannot be, effectively addressed b/c ‘everyone’ is focused on laying low or holding on to their current positions w/ no energy left to improve. Survival mode only.

    Ask yourself: Where is this coming from? Logical source is from the top as abnormal as that is.

  63. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    In the mind of someone perpetrating this ‘strategy’ their goal is ‘get rid of my enemy, get control of situation, solve problem, prove I’m the boss’. Of course it is completely dysfunctional.

    How’s that working out Jed?

  64. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Reason I don’t buy that it is coming from Hendrix is that he is the victim of the innuendo campaign in local and national media. Always the finger of blame is pointed at HC from anonymous sources. Who is doing the covert blaming, pointing the finger for past year or two? “Since SB loss”?

    Dion Sanders? LMJ? Hendrix? Ask yourself WHO is orchestrating this ongoing campaign. Who is in the position?

    People are beginning to get wise to what’s going on here

  65. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No guys, It’s all on the QB.

    Kappy engineered the aborted trade to Cleveland this offseason. He secretly traveled with Harbaugh to Duke to watch Peyton Manning and told Harbaugh to lie about it to the players. He engineered the Alex Smith benching and trade, which started dividing the locker room. He’s the rat Singletary was referring to. He told Teflon Mike to start Smith, even though his shoulder was burger meat. He was behind the Marriucci firing. He was even seen spiking Vic Morabito’s beer moment before he died in the 3rd quarter of the Bears game all those years ago.

  66. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil there’s always ‘leaks’ when it comes to media reports.
    Disgruntled players, former employees, you name it.

    Some, maybe most of these ‘leaks’ are conjured up by the media themselves, to float their own agendas as well.
    Florio makes a living with that sort of journalism.
    Everything is a ‘report’ when it comes to having a deadline met.
    Always conveniently hidden as ‘anonymous sources’.

    I don’t believe Jed would want to fuel negative publicity within his own domain but, what do I know about Jed?

    IMO, this rift makes the most sense between Trent and Jim.
    The old ‘buying the groceries/making the meal’ credo, on full display perhaps?

    Knowing what we know, or believe to be accurate, regarding Cleveland, it might have made sense to float that past Jim, to gauge his desire to remain, by offering him an out?

    As reports would have it, Mrs Jim doesn’t want to relo so, offer refused?

    What ensued was the inevitable fallout of, 9ers attempting to sabotage HC.

    I’ll take the road less traveled in that scenario, by assuming Jed sought to let the decision to leave SF with Jim, thereby using Cleveland as ‘The Bad Guy’.

    All we know now is, it’s morphed into a full blown media circus, compounded by a downward spiral in all phases.

    Very possible that Jim hitching his wagon to Kaep in the Draft fueled some form or turmoil with Baalke too?
    Who’s to know with any certainty at this point?

    Hindsight is always 20/20 when seeking revisionist agendas.

  67. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Since you don’t ever say anything, NoFear, why don’t you tell us what the problem is? Harbaugh should be rewarded for driving the bus into last place? Jed is doing a bang-up job undermining his head coach, and therefore the team? This coaching staff is doing an outstanding job of coaching this team to the worst offense in the league? Harbuagh should be left to continue his work because of his past performance, but HIS QB should be jettisoned despite the same success?

    Got it. I’ve only said it’s the coaching for a while now. But that seems to escape your steel trap of a brain.

  68. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve told you what the problem is, you trolling halfwit. It’s been the problem since STL #2.

    Chuck says: “I’m completely at a loss to figure out what the problem is, so I blame everyone.” Sound familiar? Some talking donkey wrote it earlier today, just before he denied it.

  69. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right. It’s the black helicopters. It’s the radio waves emanating from the magnetic poles. Name calling? Wow, real tough talk, skippy. Better crawl back under that rock. The light is affecting your brain.

    What should Harbaugh get for driving this team to the brink of last place? You with Spitty, and a 5 year 10 mill extension? I’d bump Fangio up in a heartbeat and get some better offensive coaches.

    I don’t know if I could take another 60 months of Greg Roman.

  70. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Let me explain it to you, oh clueless one. There are so many problems with this team, self-inflicted and otherwise, that it’s hard to separate the different strands of shit that is killing it. The owner is undermining the head coach. The head coach regularly lies to the press and his players. The GM and the HC don’t bother to communicate. The players hold out. The players variously suck. The QB has turned into a surly prick doing his post game pressers, learning at the feet of his head coach, arguably the most abrasive coach to walk the earth. The owner tweets his disdain for the job his HC is doing. The GM’s daughter gets into the mix, asking for the head of the OC in another tweet. I’ve wanted Roman’s head on a pike for 2.5 years now, but do they listen? It would have saved this team a lot of heartache. But you guys want to keep the madness going??? And you wonder why I think you guys are a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

    You and Bullit have a very unnatural affinity for me, BTW.

    Why is all your misdirected animosity directed to me? ROB!!! is pissed off at the coaches, as are NJ, Bergs, and Grumpy. They don;t get your messy sloppy seconds?

    You guys need to get out more often. Or find another hobby that doesn’t involve all your affection aimed at me.

  71. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And, in more news worthy of making me toss my biscuits, Per Mike Sando, Eric (the hairy) Mangina is apparently in line for the HC spot in Santa Clara.

  72. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    It would be great, if at some point in time, we all got together for a Blog Night Out maybe?

    A few drinks together, maybe a 9er game and, this daily gathering here could be a real-life HOOT.

    If I ever get my sh!t together for a West Coast visit, where I can get a 9er game in, with extra time to spend, we’ll see if it’s feasible.

    Obviously, Phil seems to have the longest commute at this point 😀

    We could practice an organized takeover at 4949 HC, torches and pitchforks in hand.

    If that doesn’t work, we’d likely have a pretty decent scrum among ourselves.

    Peace guys, it’s like having The Festivus Pole here, an airing of grievances should be therapeutic.

  73. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh Chuck, just put that up, about Mangini, on your site a few minutes ago.

  74. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Can’t discount it I guess?
    Parcells apparently was sought for his services by Baalke before Jim got the nod.

    Knowing how this business goes in the NFL, successful HC’s bear their fruit through their successive Assistants, ala Walsh.

  75. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Always liked The Tuna.
    Rough, direct, in your face but, always prepared.

    Who knows?
    Anything is possible I guess?
    Mangini has had a taste at the helm so, he may have learned some things since then.

  76. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Sean Payton and Belichick came from the Parcells tree too.

    Stay tuned…..

  77. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t know. I’d hate to think they are going to retool the coaching staff but there sure isn’t an easy way out of the clusterf&&* this team is in. The Singletary downfall was less acrimonious.

    This offense needs some new blood though, that’s for sure.

  78. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    It’s also fun as hell to think that there are 2 guys waiting to pounce on anything I post. Have at it, skippies.

    Bullit and NoFear can have themselves a little bitch-fit looking back at all the Mangina posts from 2013.

    “Look what he said!” Bullit’s rubbing one out right now.

  79. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Now you’re explaining what you said you are completely at a loss to figure out? Sounds about right.

    And after the pile of bullshit you just dumped, replace the QB with any journeyman in the league and the rest of the troubles you see and imagine go away.

    That doesn’t mean we dump Kaepernick. It just means he’s the biggest problem we face in winning games these days. Blame the coaching if that what it takes for you to save face but the coaches aren’t out on the field dazed by defenses, sailing balls and throwing balls short, too hard and too off target to catch and to the wrong team and holding it too long and taking sacks needlessly.

    Kaepernick finds many fans unwilling to give him the benefit of the doubt now because of the attitude he presents to the public and the disdain with which he apparently regards his fans. The same goes for you. Your posts hold no interest to me outside of their comedy value and the great examples they offer of talking out of one’s ass.

    You are so quick to dump loads of shit on top of anyone who doesn’t buy your bullshit that it makes it hard to resist pointing out the fine examples you provide of your hypocrisy.

    You make four posts to respond to one of mine. Do yourself a favor and reply to me posting nothing by responding in kind.

  80. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck the major pitfall in this dilema is, that Jim brought his entire Staff along from Stanford.

    If he’s not going to accept changes, to any given piece of it, there’s the real chance wholesale changes will result.

    Sucks for this to have gotten to this sort of an impasse but, it’s not looking too promising for a compromise from the sounds of it.

  81. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes that’s a good long commute NJ but it would be worth it to brandish my pitchfork @ 4949 Cents.

    Ratto blames the Hendrix/York conflicted relationship for the overall ‘tone’ of our troubles. He has an impressive list of what done gone rong too but so does Chuck:

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/49ers-demise-starts-whole-harbaugh-york-thing

    A commenter at Carl Inman’s blog (who 12th will tell you is Spitwad) said:

    Dogwood

    “No, it’s not losing to the Raiders that forces Harbaugh out, it’s losing that Super Bowl that sealed his fate. York has not forgiven that transgression upon this franchise’s record. Gave him another chance with last year’s fine team and Harbaugh couldn’t make amends. Therefore, no contract extension before this season. One last try. Nope. Wheels have fallen off the wagon. Fate sealed.”

  82. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Selection of comments from the Ratto post: Some complain about Ray R, some blame Low Balls, some blame Short Stuff, most sympathetic to Hendrix (must be the music) = first one pretty interesting:

    ” Pete Carroll hired a whole department of sports psych people to work with and be there for his players, and even chose players based on their capacity to make use of such a thing. Harbaugh could never do that.”

    “The season was suspect from the start. The rumors of Baalke and Harbaugh not talking last summer were the storm clouds on this season’s horizon. Whether it was York or Baalke does not matter. When management and coaching staffs don’t get on the same page you have conflict. Sadly, the personality conflicts have caused a bloodletting of this football team; affecting morale and cohesiveness. The Raider game just made it painfully apparent.”

    “York threw the coaching staff AND players under the bus with his “embarrassing” tweet. Who wants to play for an owner that throws their team under the bus?!? Anyone can see the lack of effort. The defense made Carr look like Aaron Rodgers! York/Baalke will never win a championship. They have their own AGENDAS instead of the team/players best interests.”

    Soooo…everybody’s got an opinion and we have a situation to have opinions about. I thought the comment about FO/coaches lack of common vision summed it up pretty well.

  83. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Steve Young says the locker room leaders need to kick the coaches, GM and owner out and have a players meeting to get down to it and own it.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/steve-young-49ers-leaders-share-blame-poor-showings

    Sounds good. I will avoid making any comments about benching Ray Mac because froot loops attacked him. No I won’t say a word

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    All good points Phil, I think many of us can reason with the majority of issues presented.

    For me, Trent and Jim HAVE to share a common vision for what needs to be built.
    Short of that, chaos ensues.

    Sad but true, we’re in free-fall at this point.

    All good for you and the weather situation?
    Still an issue?

  85. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    So if there’s to be a players only meeting it better be soon while VD, Willis, Boldin, Bowman, Gore, Justin, Crabtree, Staley and the vets are still around.

    Would love to see these guys lock the door and hash it out. Now is the time or earlier, not later

  86. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The other 800lb Gorilla knocking on the door is, whether Kaep can get to, or accept, the weight of the QB responsibilities from the pocket?

    It’s driving the other side of the debate whether Coaching is lacking or, Kaep can’t take it to the next level?

    Scary to think, let alone mention, the possibility that he’s flat-lined already.

    I can’t believe just how inept he’s been in recent weeks.
    Hoping he’s just hit a rough patch.

    He looks like he’s carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders, in addition to the headphones.

    He definitely needs to lose that sullen disposition, if he expects any of his team mates to take him seriously as a leader.

  87. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes NJ dang if SEA has what we need = a better balance of coaching and mgmt to get the most out of players. Niners used to have Harry Edwards to be a trusted neutral party between all parties, all levels. Break down this dysfunctional polarization and get real communication going.

    Yes the typhoon Ruby left us today w/ no damage, all ok thanks. The whole country holds its breath to see who gets hit. People are much more aware of dangers of 150 mph winds after so many last few years w/ most areas already whacked.

  88. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes agree about Kap. He must accept leadership of the team esp. O and learn his craft. Turmoil is clearly affecting him as well as shitty OL play, WRs, the whole on field mess. Him and a lot of players including now D seem to be paralyzed by the ongoing unresolved conflicts w/ coaches/FO/and Shorty the Tweet

    Headphones off, get engaged, lead. Hit your reads. Lots for Kap to learn and he needs to admit it.

  89. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Good to hear Phil.

    As for Dr Edwards, I was a big fan of Bill Walsh for making that move years ago as he did.

    Both men were way ahead of the curve on that relationship.

    Might have been beneficial for Aldon to have had a mentor such as Dr Edwards at his side earlier on too.

  90. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Opinions and speculation is all anyone outside the building can engage in at this point as far as who wants what and at what cost.

    I don’t know how many might own a copy of Walsh’s _Finding the
    Winning Edge_ but in it he talks about evaluating players of every position but especially QBs.

    Here’s an article he wrote hitting the same points that I can link. Read it with Kaepernick in mind and see if it doesn’t change your opinion of who is the biggest impediment to the offense running a passing offense.

    http://bit.ly/1AapI5d

  91. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks NoFear49er,
    It is a book I’ve yet to read, but likely would enjoy, as I have profound respect for Bill and what he represented, not only to our 9ers but, the game overall.

  92. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I’m aware of that book when someone mentioned it (you maybe?) couple years ago. Read some of it in reviews. He covered ‘everything’ and it would be good to get some copies to everyone in FO and coaching positions.

  93. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That link sort of fuels our collective debate over Kaep too NoFear49er.

    Catchable balls, in all ranges, frustrates me to no end.
    I can forgive the ongoing learning curve, with the mental shortcomings week in and week out.
    That will come with more experience.

    The leadership quote from Bill hits a chord too huh?

  94. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, they aren’t giving them away anymore, like box-loads at a coaching seminar Walsh was speaking at for $20 a pop, but whatever they get for them now it is the how-to manual for all aspects and details of running an NFL team and well worth the cost.

    Yeah, lots of things to consider there that are desired/required qualities of the individual player.

    Might have been me, Phil. I’m not sure all involved today give a care about what and how anyone did things “in the old days.” I think that mentality is common in many areas of endeavor.

  95. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er I just poked around on the web for a copy.
    Used copies going near $200 to as much as $1G.

    Holy Father of Football!

  96. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bill brought an air of intelligence and deep thought to everything football related.
    Quite an innovator of his time.

    Always enjoyed how he tied it to his love of boxing too.

    Brilliant man.
    Sorely missed.

  97. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Well now I wish I’d have taken better care of it!

  98. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Full of his favorite military quotes, too. Gotta love that.

  99. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Seriously!

    I’m gonna keep an eye open now for a bargain.
    If that’s even possible?

  100. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Santa, AKA my Mrs, won’t appreciate my request at those prices 😀

  101. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I can always sully my reputation, at the local Library if available and, stick my kids with the overdue charges when I depart God’s green earth down the road too.

  102. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah that is a dent in the ol’ budget, especially this time of year. I’m going to move mine to a higher shelf now, or the safe.

  103. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Wise move from the looks of the current market.
    Might have yourself a retirement account in the making?

    I’m amazed.

  104. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I might just start paying more attention to garage sales now too.
    Though I’m geographically misaligned with the Bay Area Faithful.

  105. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear don’t you see the issue with your comments? I’ve been on this coaching staff for years now about being stale, ineffective, and rudimentary. Especially in the red zone.

    Now that we are where we are, there’s little choice but to dump Harbaugh. Even when Kappy was playing well, there were issues with all of this. Especially in the red zone. Now that Kappy is struggling, your answer is to do nothing?

    To you it’s all execution. To you it’s all on the QB. If the plays aren’t there, they won’t work regardless of execution.

  106. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/321611028099?_mwBanner=1

    $38.00 on eBay.

    You’re welcome.

  107. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Wow Chuck. Pat yourself on the back because you heard a rumor about Mangini from a lone writer. Taking that victory lap a little early??? Enjoy yourself because when it doesn’t to pass
    you’ll eat crow.

  108. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t want it to happen, nimrod. Just noting what is out there.

    Geez, at least he’s a credible source, not “I think they talk in the building” horse shit you are selling.

    Try again skippy. That was pretty weak.

  109. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    You think Mike Sando is a credible source??? Is he in the building?
    In Chuck’s World anyone who shares his point of view is credible and those who don’t are not.

  110. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Greg Cossell was on KNBR yesterday with Mr T offering his wisdom and expertise.

    http://www.knbr.com/page.php?page_id=151

  111. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Want to really hear someone really bitch about the 49ers.He covers everything. This guy could very well be our mcloving Denny
    http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=851&c=4831&f=3694983

  112. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Weak sauce, skippy.

  113. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    In Bullit’s world, well it’s a dark and empty playground full of rust and cobwebs.

    Talked to Keena Turner lately? Oh, that was someone else who talked to someone else about something. Like the unintentionally wrong news guy on SNL.

  114. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    How’s that source working for ya, skippy?

  115. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Hey here’s Brent Jones again, he was just on last hour but according to Chuck Brent doesn’t know much. That’s according to Chuck though.
    http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=851&c=4831&f=3727523

  116. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Listened to Brent Jones radio show. He’s a former Santa Clara Bronco player so I’m a fan as an alumni.

    BJ says the attempted trade of Hendrix to CLE “by the SF 49ers” did great damage to coaches and players tho they deny it. Exactly my POV so I agree. FO decision IMO. Jed’s tweet = more serious damage IMO as we saw in OAK.

    -BJ says Kap needs to grow up. “Someone” needs to take him aside and tell him “this is the way we do things here; change or leave”. Jones says Niners need Leadership to stand up. S Young similar comments.

    -Great discussion about the O. “Turn Kap loose” Criticizes lack of continuity, rhythm. Hmmm, who mentioned this? Berger, Phil, NJ.

    -Mr. T is cool, calm, collected.

    Last word from BJ “I want to see who wants to play good football for these last 3 games”.

    Indeed who are the players we keep for next year?

  117. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap does need to change and grow up.
    Chris Myers the play by play guy from last weekend’s broadcast said Kap was at the production meeting sulking and giving his non answers. Myers said Carr was professional and cooperative and Kap acted like a punk.
    Some face of the franchise. If he continues on this path he won’t have to have those stupid headphones because Beats will stop sponsoring him. He needs to be himself and stop being a douche.
    Kap must realize that it’s his task to answer the questions and if he doesn’t they’ll just ask other players on the team.

  118. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Kap has his issues but the Niners problems are much bigger than the QB needing to develop =

    -Owner sabotage of this team by attempting to trade the SB attaining Coach last year. WTF?! Add in a punk-ass tweet by the owner on Turkey Day that’s all you need to know about the morale of this demoralized bunch

    Yes Niners need Leadership @ QB but with the owner cutting off the HC’s head they have no leadership. Short Shit F -ed it up.

    None. No one believes there is any and they are right. The contrast with Seattle could not be more stark.

  119. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    This team’s players have quit….on the owner who quit on the HC. Now it’s all regression due to above and injuries = regressed OC, OL, O in general w/ penalties, lack of execution, regressing D as injuries take their toll and game planning declines.

    No pressure on Carr? On Fangio who coincidentally benched the soon to be departed Brooks. D players took that poorly.

    Last train to shitsville now departing for hell. Thanks Jed you were best advised to keep out of the running of the team.

    Like Paul Allen.

  120. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As I’ve said Phil, give me an silent/invisible Owner over guys like Irsay, Snyder or Jerruh ANYDAY.

    Owners typically aren’t football guys, Jed, least of all perhaps.

    Thanks too to Bullit & Chuck, regarding Bill’s book.
    Saw some quick prices last night that blew my mind.

    eBay is a source I had planned on checking, so thanks for getting there ahead of me.

  121. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting as well, regarding Bill’s book, is that Brian Billick was involved with it’s creation.

    I had at one time discussed the possibilities of having Brian involved with Kaep.
    Not sure of course how feasible that would be but, Brian and Bill obviously had common ground surrounding the WCO.

    Something I’d like to see Kaep get more of a diet on in the hopes of improving his decision making, timing and touch.

  122. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Thing is Kappy isn’t enjoying the game right now. This talk of growing up is ludicrous. All he does at these pressers he learned from Harbaugh. All the problems he and the team are having are a direct result of the bullshit this coaching staff and front office have put this team and players through.

    You pooh poohed all the early trade talk as being bullshit, now you glom on to every report from every talking head. Have at it. But the issues with this team are much deeper that a QB missing some passes.

  123. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Funny thing is, the Niners drafted Brian Billick in the 7th round of the ’78 draft I think it was.

  124. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll bet you Carr wasn’t ever called a half-breed gang-banger who isn’t ‘quarterbacky looking’ enough for some people’s liking. He’s surly with the press? Boo hoo. Ted Williams hated the press, as did Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Paul Hourning, and plenty of others.

    Say what you will about Kappy’s relationship with the press, but he caught a ton of flak for just being who he was.

  125. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck the lowest eBay listing for Bill’s book is on bid for another day.
    Likely will go over the $50+ mark before it’s over.

    Take a look at this particular offering –

    http://tinyurl.com/lcgrojf

  126. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I might have that book, but I’m not sure. I have a couple of the ones done by the team photographer, and the Dickey one. Unfortunately all my books are in boxes and I an’t going through them any time soon.

  127. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The 1977 draft. The longevity of these guys is astounding:

    3 65 SFO Elmo Boyd WR 1 East Kentucky
    4 100 SFO Stan Black DB 1 Mississippi St.
    6 141 SFO Mike Burns DB 2 USC
    6 155 SFO Jim Harlan T 1 Howard Payne
    7 183 SFO Jim Van Wagner RB 1 Michigan Tech
    9 239 SFO David Posey K 1 Florida
    11 295 SFO Brian Billick TE 0 BYU
    12 323 SFO Scott Martin G 0 ???

    One guy lasted 2 years.

  128. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Shows how tough it is to survive Chuck.
    Especially when years ago the Draft went on for twice as many RDs.

    No easy task by today’s measures with a Cap System as well.

    GMs make the Teams IMO.
    Picks are the life-blood.
    The more the merrier, enhances the odds of being successful.

  129. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    oh that didn’t work.

  130. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    I just hear one excuse after another from you regarding Kap.
    You act like Kap is Jackie Robinson. He’s not the only Black QB
    in the NFL and it seems everyone else seems to be handling it better.
    I don’t think he’s being picked on by the media. He started his I play better with a chip on my shoulder and now he can’t handle the adversity.
    Things work better if you go to meetings and stop acting like a prick.

  131. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Sando did a 5pt article on Kaep –
    I can’t link it because it’s a subscription piece –

    One point he makes of the 5 is interesting – Immediately makes me think of Tomsula, though not from an Offensive POV –

    4. The next coach and offensive staff will be more positive and uplifting.

    One critic of Harbaugh’s approach said he thinks the 49ers would benefit across the board from a more positive, upbeat coaching philosophy after three draining seasons under the hard-charging Harbaugh. This insider also thinks the 49ers’ offense is overly complex, particularly in the running game, and that the mental grind has worn on some players.

    There was also some thought that 49ers’ coaches have marginalized tight end Vernon Davis after his training camp holdout, a potential factor in Davis’ diminished performance. In the past, Kaepernick had been much more productive when Davis was on the field; the reverse has been true this season. The next coach would have to remedy these situations.

  132. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And some further commentary on possible candidates from the same piece –

    Some think San Francisco will pursue a head coach and/or coordinator such as Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, who worked with Griffin in Washington and could become a head-coaching candidate after his work with the Browns this season. Scott Frost, the offensive coordinator at Oregon, also fits the profile of a coach who would likely embrace working with Kaepernick instead of pushing for a more traditional pocket quarterback. Adam Gase was on the Denver Broncos’ staff when the team adapted its offense for Tim Tebow, although Gase was not the coordinator at that time.

  133. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    And one final interesting POV from Sando connected to the same article –

    Kaepernick is averaging 3.8 action plays per game from the Pistol formation, down from 6.5 per game last season. The 49ers are also averaging 30.9 snaps per game with three or more wide receivers. The figure was below 13 per game in each of the previous two seasons. When teams use additional wide receivers, defenses counter with additional defensive backs, expanding their abilities to employ complex coverage schemes. Kaepernick, like other young quarterbacks from college-style offenses, is not considered a skilled reader of these defenses by insiders I’ve spoken with throughout the league.

  134. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Players get paid millions of dollars and these press conferences are mandatory and part of the job. The media represents us the fans who tune in to the press conference to learn things about the team.
    When you are the QB of the team and you play poorly you have to face the music and act like a professional and an adult.
    The fact that Harbaugh is sometimes short and abrasive is no excuse.
    Why bother having a press conference if you’re going to be rude
    and waste everyone’s time.
    The 49ers have always done things with class. Something that Chuck doesn’t seem to understand.

  135. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Class? From Jed? Right. Classy to tweet your disappointment about the last game and throw your team under the bus. classy to try and trade away the head coach, and then lie about it afterward. Classy to let ray mac play while under investigation. Classy of Harbaugh to sneak away to try and woo Peyton Manning and then lie to his players about it immediately afterward. Classy of harbaugh to say A smith would get his job back and didn’t. If you are looking for class in football you end up in a DUI class.

    It’s a little creepy that you post only for me bullit

  136. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Baalke allegedly had a talk with Kap and delivered a message.
    Today Kap talked to the media and apparently the message registered as Kap was cordial and actually had a smile on his face because he was relaxed with no headphones. He answered questions thoughtfully and didn’t blow off questions.

    Huge improvement and it does matter.

  137. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Does that guarantee he’ll play better?

  138. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll even answer that. No. But at larst they are talking.

    The communication around the building appears to be terrible.

  139. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I’ll answer that.

    It couldn’t hurt.

  140. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    What it boils down to with Kaep, for me, is being a professional.
    Sucks to play bad, sucks to lose, we get it.

    When a well respected franchise like SF ponies up the support and the Cap resources to put you out front, as the face of the franchise, show some respect for the people who support you.

    Yes, he’s young, he’s cocky, he’s learning.
    I get that.

    Glad to see Trent made the necessary gesture to reel him in on that point.

    Nose to the grindstone Kaep, a fat Contract doesn’t mean you’ve arrived, it simply means the FO expects big things from you.

    Learn and more importantly, grow from this.

  141. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Agree NJ Kap needs to be professional. No use blaming Hendrix for Kap’s interviews as some do.

    In this year of innuendo/backstabbing from within the org Leadership, out front, vocal and rational, is greatly needed. Hendrix can’t do it all nor should he be expected to. This point made recently by Young and B Jones.

    It’s been lacking from others but the negativity has continued. This is not leadership. Good to see Low Ballser step up.

    Whether it’s the offensive philosophy or the organizational philosophy the attitude that “We’re the Niners and we’re going to do what we always do” is not working. A change of approach in both areas would seem warranted = more pro-active, less predictable because business as usual is not working

  142. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil it’s been a season of rough patches, to put it mildly.
    It won’t fix itself.

    Someone from within the Locker Room, the Staff, needs to identify a unifying chord of some kind and, get things back into focus.

    Never too late to admit things need to be improved.
    Been saying it for quite some time, business as usual ain’t working.

  143. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Parcels on Kap:

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2014/12/10/bill-parcells-on-kaepernick-i-dont-think-he-has-a-real-good-supporting-cast/

    “I don’t think he has a real good supporting cast right now,” Parcells told hosts Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic.

    ““Things have gone well for Kaepernick, really, up until this point. This year has been certainly differently from the others.

    “But you find out about these guys, I’ve always said it: ‘The fans are booing you. The media is on your case. The players are looking at you sideways. You’ve got a couple injuries. And it’s Wednesday and you’ve got to get back in the huddle to prove you can lead your team.’ Some guys just can’t handle that. Others can, and those that can wind up being successful.”

  144. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs. Carolina, 1:25 p.m.
Sept. 17: at Seattle, 1:25 p.m.
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams, 5:25 p.m.
Oct. 1: at Arizona, 1:05 p.m.
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis, 10 a.m.
Oct. 15: at Washington, 10 a.m.
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas, 1:05 p.m.
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia, 10 a.m.
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona, 1:05 p.m.
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants, 1:25 p.m.
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2016 Prognostications
Closest To The Pin
  Grumpy: 3-13
  Spitblood: 3-13
  Winder: 3-13
Bakkentom: 0-16
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 8-8, 7-9, 9-7, 10-6
Mr Fletch: 4-12
NJ49er: 5-11
Phil Fan: 4-12
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 7-9
Skeebers: 6-10

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