Rams 13, 49ers 10

What a pathetic game. If Charles Haley was still on the team, he’d have torn up that brand new, state-of-the-art, comfy ass locker room in Santa Clara after this one.

The Rams deserved to win the game, but they didn’t deserve to have it given to them. Referee Jerome Boger and his crew completely screwed up the final plays of the game, denying the 49ers two ball-over-the-goal-line TDs and letting 20 seconds or so run off the play clock while they were scratching their butts ineptly.

Some day, Colin Kaepernick will figure out how to score with four shots from the 5 yard line. Maybe. For now, though, there’s a reason this team is ranked 30th in Red Zone scoring. The 49ers could probably help him along by letting Michael Crabtree walk after the season, so Kaepernick would have to lean on real play makers — like Anquan Boldin and Stevie Johnson and Vernon Davis.

Speaking of which, where is Vernon? You wouldn’t know he even played yesterday.

Until then, the team will have to get a lead and rely on the defense to hold it, because Kaepernick has never led a winning game ending drive and seems no closer now than he was two years ago. Unfortunately, they can’t get a lead anymore, either.

Outsider commenter Bigjon nailed it from last night’s thread: “It is the worst offense with the best talent I’ve ever seen!”

The 49er offense is a mess. It’s been a mess all year. A week ago, Alex Smith shredded this Rams defense. Sunday, we made them look like the ’85 Bears. Awful and unwatchable.

The 49ers obviously took the BYE week to heart and came back to work with their heads still on the beach somewhere. That’s two consecutive disinterested efforts from them. Maybe the team really has tuned out Jim Harbaugh. Maybe they’re just emotionally gassed from the intensity of three straight grueling, but ultimately unsuccessful seasons. Whatever. They suck.

Time to start scouting the 2015 draft and preparing for a tumultuous offseason, folks. The 49ers are going nowhere this year. If you have a towel, throw it in.




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  1. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “49ers RB Marcus Lattimore, SF’s 4th round pick in 2013 draft, is weighing whether to retire due to knee problems.”

  2. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs- I feel your pain. It’s the same way I felt about the SF Giants half way through the season. They ended up winning the World Series. I agree it doesn’t look good but there is still hope.

  3. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Now back to reality. The players must perform better, no question but the play calling, albeit better, still lacks rhythm. RoBaugh chokes it up when they get in the red zone. We’ve debated why but clearly they are bad play callers in the red zone.

    The field tightens up the closer a team gets to the end zone. So what does RoBaugh do, they tighten it up more by going Singletary Sardine Can. If there is ever a time for multiple WR sets it is when you get in a situation where you need more space to operate. Some here defend the Singletary Sardine Can solution in the red zone but being 30th in the league in the RZ should sell some on the fact it doesn’t work.

    What was Robaugh thinking when they went Singletary Sardine Can to run a QB sneak. IMO, absolutely asinine. That formation allowed 3 DTs and 3 LBs to line up and stop the play. If they knew they were going to run the QB sneak they should have gone 5 wide to take all the bodies out of the box and give more space to cross the goal line. That play call can not be logically defended. Just another example of how a “dumb scheme” puts undue pressure on the players ability to perform.

  4. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    The thing that’s most frustrating is it appears nothing is being done to fix anything.

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    This quote comes form Frank Gore:

    “We’ve just got to make our minds up, do what we feel we’re good at, and go do it,” Gore said. “I still think we have a good coordinator. I still believe in our coordinator. He’s been successful since he’s been here. As players, we’ve got to look at ourselves in the mirror. When he makes a call, we’ve got to do it. I wouldn’t put it on him. It’s also us. I feel he put us in good situations. We’re just too up and down.”

    Wow! Why did Frank have to give Roman the dreaded vote of confidence? Where did those comments come from and why did he had to defend his coach? Seems I’m not the only one who sees the king has no clothes on. Based on the feeling I get from these comments, Roman has to go if Harbaugh wants to stay. It sounds like we are getting to the bottom of the source of the “dumb schemes”. It’s very good odds that it is RoBaugh. Sounds like it could be time for Harbaugh to do something about the Ro and the Baugh being mentioned as one.

  6. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers- I don’t know if RoBaugh is capable of fixing this. Maybe Harbaugh but not Robaugh. They come from an era where the rules allowed that style of play. The rules have evolved and RoBaugh has not tried to do anything about it until this year. They thought they could change on their own without anybody to help. IMO, Harbaugh can save this but maybe not this year. Roman is not an instinctive play caller and at this point I can’t see him ever being one. He completely lacks a sense for the moment and any kind of rhythm. He knows football but he is being outcoached by some D coordinators that have his tendencies down cold. Hell, most of us fans have his tendencies down cold.

    Andy Reid is considered a maven at the spread offense. He hired a spread specialist advisor this year. Do you think Harbaugh would think of that? Here he is changing his offensive theories, finally, but trying to do it all by himself. It is no wonder we lack identity and rhythm.

    Harbaugh is a quality coach and I believe he will see the light but for right now even his players are questioning him and his OC. That is not generally a good thing. Will Harbaugh get it before he is out of here? I believe that is the proper question to ask.

  7. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    As far as the Crabtree diving catch is concerned, he should have reached down and caught the ball with hands like Rice or Taylor would have done and stepped into the end zone. Even Boldin would have made that catch without diving. I think most WRs dive for that ball but the elites don’t. Crabtree looks to me like he might have phoned in this season already and he definitely does not look like an elite.

    The slant that Kap threw a half step ahead of him on the penultimate drive looked like he wasn’t running full speed and didn’t have the heart to go over the middle. I thought if he was running full speed that was a perfect pass. If Crabs goes elsewhere next year I will not be disappointed.

  8. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Stevie Johnson should be starting ahead of Crabs, but they probably won’t do that.

  9. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I agree.

  10. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- From the last thread, I did not blame the refs for our loss, I said they blew some calls. When our O-line plays as poorly as it did it is hard to blame the refs. Seems some players are blaming “dumb schemes”.

  11. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Once again, the Niners counteract constant blitzing by continually running 5 and 7 step drop pass plays. Why change things up when they are failing miserably?

    This has been a problem all season and we have yet to devise a way to slow that down.

    That being said, the blocking was horrendous. Yeah, Kappy held the ball too long on some plays, and I sure wish he’d feel backside pressure better, but the theme of the 1st half was every time Kappy went back to pass, there were 3 Rams there with him. The misdirection passes to Boldin worked very well. Naturally they stopped doing it.

    I’ve said it before. They refuse to exploit things that they find are working.

    They could have hired Chris Ault, but KC beat ’em to it. Kappy’s old coach is the ‘spread specialist’ Bergs mentioned. Hmmmm. Wonder how that would have worked.

  12. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The point being, this could be Harbaugh’s Waterloo. He wanted total control of the coaching, and here we are. The locker room is apparently in disarray, and the team, offensively at least (his domain) is playing like dogshit.

    This last game was very reminiscent of the ugly days. Playing just good enough to lose. NO and the Giants on the road? 2 more against Seattle? Unless they show something very quickly, this team is on the fact track to a losing record.

  13. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Crabtree 7 drops, 2nd in NFL
    Lynch 10th-rankd pass-rush OLB; Brooks last, 45th

  14. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Lemonyay AND Brooks could very well be out of work in a couple weeks. I just wish the healthy offense was playing as well as the wounded defense.

    Apparently Lloyd went out with a bad hammy.

  15. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Lloyd should be starting ahead of Crabtree, too.

  16. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I think it’s fairly obvious to assume some of the locker room antics are coming from Crabtree, if not VD as well.

    Crabs has been disinterested to say the least with the addition of Lloyd and Stevie Wonder. VD has been MIA as well.

  17. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Been to 4 games at Levi’s Stadium now. It’s by far the worst atmosphere in Bay Area pro sports behind Giants, Warriors, Sharks, Raiders, A’s.”

    Jed’s corporate emphasis. Paid seats that are empty half the time.

  18. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    Wow. Frank and Staley calling out our coaches and questioning our “dumb schemes.” Hard to distinguish between the Niners and FX’s “Sons of Anarchy” these days. Mutiny on the Bounty!

    The 49ers have the same amount of offensive TDs as the 1-8 Jets (16) and only two more than the winless Raiders. Add to that the Niners are dead last in red zone efficiency and have a QB who hasn’t progressed any since we lost the Super Bowl. Is it any wonder why we can’t score?

    Speaking of scoring, how the hell did they credit Alex Smith with a TD pass on that play to Fasano? Never seen so much junk before in my life. Here’s the real junk: Alex has yet to throw a TD to a WR this year. Not Checkdown Charlie? I’m shocked and dismayed.

  19. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- They hired Chris Ault as an advisor to help the defense vs the Pistol. The Spread Game Analyst they hired was the former Vikings coach Brad Childress. Andy Reid is never afraid to learn from others.

    Harbaugh would do good top hire Ault as his advisor because he used the spread formations to run the ball. Ault is the only NCAA Div 1 coach to have three 1,000 yard rushers in one year. This pistol was designed to be a downhill running offense. Roman’s version of the Pistol looks nothing like the Ault version. His formations are too tight to have the success Ault did.

  20. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    Hiring Chris Ault wouldn’t do one goddamn bit of good. Nothing changes until there’s a change at the top. America sure has gone to hell in a handbasket these past six years. I know. Let’s get rid of Joe Biden. It’s all his fault. That’ll change everything.

  21. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    The dreaded “team meeting” is upcoming for coach and his players.
    I hope they don’t waste any money on having it catered. Got a good feeling that spread is going to get flipped, ripped and heads up! Here comes the chili dip.

  22. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Someone around here ridiculed the idea of the Ault hire. But they were fully behind the Mangenius hire.

    Curious, eh?

    The play I nearly keeled over on was the rollout on 2nd and goal. Kappy sprints right, and drops about 10 yards to throw the ball. Really? Our playcalling is for shit. Our red zone offense is worst in the league. And we can’t score yet again from the 1 yard line. You run the sneak on 1st down with 3 WRs on the field. Not on 3rd down with everyone packed in tight.

    Now we can’t move the ball at all between the 20s. The Rams are 31 against the run, so naturally we pass pass pass. Our vaunted O line shits itself and does nothing. Do we run delays? One. This coaching staff is for shit. If I hear one more time how successful these guys have been I’m going to snap.

    What do you call now?

    The way we are currently playing, we will lose to Seattle 2x, AZ, NO, and SanDawg. The Giants, Skins, and the Raydurrs are a crapshoot.

    6-10? Think Harbaugh gets an extension? Right. If I’m Jed York, I go after Darell Bevell (Sea) or Pete Carmichael (NO).

  23. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “49ers Stevie Johnson has 356 yards receiving while playing 178 snaps. Michael Crabtree has 362 yards on 412 snaps.”

  24. FranchiseNo Gravatar says:

    From my beer glass is half-full perspective (which btw, is the Trader Joe’s 2014 Vintage Dark Ale)…

    Chris Borland was a find. He just never quits. His instincts remind me of a young Sam Mills.

    High five to Baalke on the one.

  25. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    To pass or to run? Seems to be the fundamental question. Naturally Frank loves Roman because he used the run a lot in the past and we were good at it. Others like Crabtree, VD, not to mention Boldin, etc want to see more passes. I think this is the crux of the “identity crisis” on the team and it has polarized the players (and coaches- who knows?).

    Pass or run? Heck we should do both and have the personnel to do so but we have a power/control struggle which is rendering this non-functional. Romans poor schemes on O have only intensified this run/pass split. And they are glaring. He has to go since there is no sign of positive change.

    If Roman goes so does Harbaugh as they will not be separated per Jimi who continues to have “confidence” in GRo.

    A consultant for the O would have been good- earlier- but that would require sharing power and control which was not going to happen. Others (Berger) have made the point that Jimi has tried to do it on his own. And this dysfunctional stalemate is the result. Jimi has bet his future on a poor horse.

  26. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Right now our odds of making the playoffs look slim. The offense shows a few flashes but the production is still crap. And the defense cannot redeem every sin.

    *If* we miss the playoffs, I cannot envision Harbaugh returning next year. Even a wild card slot with a quick exit might not save him. As many games as he has won here, we clearly have gone on the rocks this year, and are dead in the water. Something will have to change. Historical data suggests that something is almost always the coach. It may not be *all* Jimbo’s fault, but he’ll be the one to fall on his sword.

  27. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right. There’s no way Harbaugh gets an extension without reaching the playoffs.

    There are times I feel like he’s sealing his own fate to get out of Dodge. And back to Michigan.

  28. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Lack of creativity is the simple answer for me.
    KC and Alex dinked and dunked the Rams to defeat a week earlier.
    Our braintrusts apparently spent the BYE ‘self-scouting’ themselves.

    They obviously found a way to further impede an already sluggish Offense.

    Going back to the SB, we’re the same old sorry-a$$ed Offense we were then, minus the running game.

    We’ve yet to develop a rookie WR or a viable TE option beyond Vernon.
    Some would lay blame at the feet of Baalke for poor personnel decisions.
    I see it as a failure of the position coaches and the OC to find a formula that works.

    Sunday is WC weekend for me in NOLA.
    Brees & Co have had extra time off to prepare for us too.

    If Harbaugh can’t find a way to defeat Rob Ryan’s Defense, GB gets the leg up on us for a WC slot.

  29. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We’re dealing with a control freak of a HC who found success quickly with a VERY talented roster.

    I think it has finally come to the point where he’s getting exposed and, he can’t find another creative gear, to overcome his shortcomings.

    Baalke gave him plenty of weapons IMO.
    Either he can’t Coach them up or, he can’t find a way to utilize them properly.

    I couldn’t help but notice the camera shot of our sideline, late in the game, where Tomsula was challenging the OLine to get it together.

    No wonder there’s talk of Tomsula being the HC in waiting.
    All I ever seem to see from Harbaugh, short of his hysterics, is the infamous shoulder pad thumping he does with his QBs.

  30. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Unfortunately Jimi’s Achilles heel is his devotion to Gro, a 2nd rate OC. As a HC we differ NJ as I see Jimi as very good in rallying the team players. You not so much. But the lack of progress with the talent we have on O, indeed the regression this year, does fall to the HC since he insists on retaining his OC who cannot progress. I’m fully prepared to see us miss the playoffs and see no reason to expect us to get in, none. The power struggle between Frank/run game and the inept/inconsistent passing attack GRo cannot maximize or sustain is the rock we are floundering on. Jimi has bet on GRo and it has harmed himself (going?), Kaepernick and the team.

  31. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NJ I have a question: If the HC is the problem how come the D is operating at a high level? Might it have something to do with the DC? I think so. I say Harbaugh’s injecting himself into the O and his “devotion” to GRo is what is killing us. I also think this is why Manning went to Denver.

  32. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil there’s a marriage of sorts with Harbaugh and Roman, I get that.
    However, I would have to assume that Jim wants that sort of Offense to be run.
    Several posters here, and elsewhere, like the ‘Schembechler Jr’ moniker for a reason.

    Can’t dispute the Harbaugh locker room analogy either.
    He is good in that regard, no question.
    I’m just questioning whether his message is being accepted any longer?

    There appears to be a very real divide taking place between the rank and file of Offensive players which can’t be ignored.

    Crabtree appeared to find new vigor with Kaep once Alex was dealt.
    Now, it appears as though Crabtree isn’t buying in any longer.
    That isn’t a direct indictment on Harbaugh so much as it is with his own agenda but, it is detrimental on the whole.

    I won’t miss him if he departs in FA either.
    Stevie appears to be a better option for us thus far and, won’t break the budget if he’s willing to seek an extension with us.

  33. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Manning went to Denver for total autonomy Phil.
    He knew he couldn’t coexist with Harbaugh on a down by down basis.
    Peyton is his own coordinator on the field.

    Our Defense was stacked with talent when Harbaugh arrived.
    Fangio put that scheme together and it’s working well overall.

    I question whether Harbaugh is going with Roman out of loyalty or, because Roman is doing what Harbaugh is requesting from this Offense?

  34. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Much of this remains in the hands of Kaep too Phil.

    He’s still young in terms of experience.
    Introducing another level of passing instruction has it’s learning curve attached.

    Can Kaep thrive in a more WCO oriented system?
    Look at Alex in KC and we might have some insight to that question.

    Kaep holds the ball too long at times and, he does continue to radar lock too long on a preferred target much too often.
    There’s a very real mental aspect of his game that isn’t developed yet too.

    Decisions have to made quicker and the ball has to come out faster in order to avoid many of the sacks he’s taking.

    A WCO approach MIGHT help him tremendously in that regard.
    Not sure Harbaugh or Roman are adept at that strategy however.

  35. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m still scratching my head over our inability to develop a Rookie WR too?
    Is it Coaching or lack of talent?
    Hard for me to understand how teams like Pittsburgh, Cincy, Indy, even the NYG, get solid WR production from their rookies and we’re fumbling around to find success with ours.

    Just can’t figure that one out.

  36. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes I can see the “Roman is doing what Jimi wants” argument too. It really comes down to the same thing unfortunately = poor play calling, poor schemes on O. Esp. noticeable this year as we try to upgrade our passing attack. Should an HC have OC or even DC experience? Sad to say the Harbaugh/Roman mess on O says YES

  37. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Last year with the injury to Crabtree our WRs were depleted and provided a built in excuse why we had a poor passing game. The issue of not developing a WR from draft was swallowed up by the controversy over “AJ Jenkins, will he or won’t he?”. But the question remains with the answer seeming to point again to coaching. HC? OC? or some other coach? This year we have a promising new WR rookie who can’t play due to so many other WRs who evidently -VD TE and Crabtree- are dissatisfied. Ellington should be a good one and lay to rest the question of “Why can’t we?”

  38. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Thoroughly confusing to me Phil.
    If Kaep was/is Harbaughs’ guy, why did he even dabble with Manning?
    Is Harbaugh developing Kaep quickly enough?

    I can buy the argument that Harbaugh is a run-oriented guy to begin with.
    Which lends credence to the Roman attachment.

    I’m questioning whether he/they can bring a balanced attack to fruition?

    Jim being a former QB and all, there’s a lot of demands involved with developing a former Pistol QB like Kaep into a viable pocket passer on the fly.

    I have to give weight to the observations of Steve Young for instance, about the ‘moaning’ he observed on the sideline Sunday as well.

    Quite a lot of innuendo floating around our locker room too, going back to the Deion Sanders rhetoric of recent vintage, which I would attach to Crabtree first and foremost.
    Especially when we observe the body language being exhibited by Crabtree in recent weeks.

    Something just isn’t adding up for me.
    I’m starting to wonder if the honeymoon is over between players and Coaching philosophy.

  39. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m also trying to figure out what adding a rookie Center to the mix is doing for our protection responsibilities.
    Someone has to be providing the guidance in that situation.
    Is it being given to Kaep?
    Might explain all the confusion vs the Rams to some extent, if pre-snap alignments got changed by Greg Williams when the play finally got executed.
    We had many plays where guys were looking lost and blocking air.

    Iupati and Boone looked like the rookies more than I can recall the rookie looking like a rookie.

    Staley rarely comes off as a guy who has an axe to grind either.
    He was none too happy after that game.
    Who can blame him?
    We’re all feeling the same way.

    Something stinks in 9er Land.

  40. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    You think Jimi goes if we don’t make playoffs NJ?

    I don’t think we make the playoffs

  41. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hard to say at this point Phil.
    I’ve felt that an extension is all on Harbaugh wanting to stay vs Jed wanting to pay him.
    I do feel he’s a good Coach overall.

    My misgivings are well documented and have everything to do with his ability to improve the Offense.

    I’ve questioned his ability to be more creative.

    For that reason, he’s got to prove he can overcome this lack luster first half of the season for me.

    If he loses the locker room in the coming weeks then yes, I think he’s gone.

  42. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He’s a players Coach, through and through.
    Can’t question his ambition and enthusiasm for the job.

    Where I think it becomes dicey is, his loyalty to the Assistant Coaches.
    Not sure he can sever a relationship with Roman if asked to do so.
    Then, there’s the relationship issues raised with Baalke.

    What could happen is Roman getting lured away at season’s end thereby forcing an OC change.

    If he weathers the storm he’s in right now and, keeps the players focused, I have no problem extending him, assuming he wishes to remain.

  43. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not ready to concede losing a Playoff appearance just yet Phil.

    Philly and Dallas are facing backup QB challenges right now and neither team is scary on Defense.
    We have to look for a WC slot right now.

    If Harbaugh can find a way to manufacture points, we can be successful, as our Defense is rock solid.

    We go as Harbaugh/Roman/Kaep go until all is said and done.

  44. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I also think a younger team would benefit Harbaugh here.

    Some of the perceived discord within the locker room might have more to do with the Vets IMO.

    Guys like Randy Moss suggested that Harbaugh treated guys like College kids, which comes with a grain of salt.

    Talks of trading Brooks only fuel the fire too.

    We’re getting younger after this year anyway.
    Harbaugh can’t ignore that fact.

  45. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger –
    Check out the WR from Louisville in your travels –

    DeVante Parker – 6’3″ 210

    Jaelen Strong from AZ State- 6’3″ 212 doesn’t look too shabby either –

  46. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Just got back from my birthday dinner over here. Thanks for the comments.

    Well you are right our playoffs start in New Orleans Sunday. Can we put a complete game together on O? Stay tuned.

  47. robNo Gravatar says:

    We can still do this guys.
    Cmon niners!!!

  48. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Rob I may be pissing and moaning about our chances but dang it I will be watching the 1 AM kickoff Monday morning in NO. Rooting for our guys for sure

  49. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Stevie Johnson is No. 2 in NFL among WRs with 3.07 receiving yards per route run. Michael Crabtree is 59th at 1.33.”

  50. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    At Harbaugh’s press conference yesterday he looked like either a defeated man or a man who knows what he has to do and isn’t looking forward to the task because he might have to do something necessary but heart wrenching. The other thing it could be is he just has no answers and is perplexed. I doubt that one. I kept thinking that maybe he finally realizes Roman is not the coach for the job. Probably just hopeful thinking on my part.

  51. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs- Crabtree does look disinterested. It is easy to think he is the source of Sanders comments despite Deion’s diversionary comments

  52. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The reason I still have hope is the problem we have is really only in one area. The O-line knows it is them and the leader on the line just spoke up so the coach had to hear. This could blow up or be just what needed to happen. Fix the line problems and we are as good as any team in football. What happens next? This is better than a soap opera! Stay tuned.

  53. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Roman lured away? Fat chance.

    His window started closing after the Super Bowl loss. He’d maybe get a sniff from a division 2 school to be a head coach, but he’s going the OC route in college, if anything.

    This is just maddening to me that they can’t figure out how to slow teams that blitz them. NO is one of the more blitz-happy teams out there so, we’ll see if they’ve learned anything.

    Staley calling out schemes is a big deal. Tomsula going after the O line was asa well.

    I could live with Tomsula if we get a strong OC/assistant HC. Pete Carmichael?

    Harbaugh for all his quarterback whisperer talk isn’t getting anywhere with Kappy. Not with these slow-ass 5 and 7 step drop pass plays in the face of constant blit5zing and harassment.

  54. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think a QB who goes 22 of 33 with 237 yds, 1 TD and zero ints while getting sacked 8 times is an incredible feat. IMO, fix the line and watch Kap flourish. Watch the entire offense flourish. Watch the entire team flourish.

  55. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, our O-line right now is the poster child for the phrase, “The whole is less than the sum of the parts.”

    Each player in isolation is talented. A lot of them grade out very well.

    But together, as a unit, they are not nearly as impressive as their media buzz.

    For whatever reason, going back a few years, our Offensive line never seems to quite gel as a unit.

    And that is a fatal flaw, because line play is almost always about the unit, rather than one player dominating another.

    What we really need is Bobb McKittrick. Or another coach who can figure out how to get five good linemen play as one good unit.

    So far, this coaching staff has not been able to make that happen. Or these players have not been teachable in that respect.

    Until we get that sorted, this team is going to continue to misfire and underachieve.

  56. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- Well said. Is it the coaching or the players or both? It is probably both but when talented players don’t gel as a unit I usually have tendency to think it is more coaching. Whatever it is it sure needs fixing. I am not one of those that think just because somebody spends 20 years in football does it make them a good coach. The money is good and some just know how to stick around and get paid, as in any big company.

  57. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Solari certainly has the rep of being a very good line coach. They’ve been good at running the ball when there isn’t 9 in the box. Teams seem to have gone from loading the box to stop the run to loading the box to blitz Kappy from various angles to confuse him. It seems to be stifling the run and the pass.

    The numbers Kappy put up were fine, but the offense as a whole was terrible. We had a good drive in the 1st quarter, a short TD drive, and the last drive. The rest were 7 punts, a missed FG and a turnover. Throw in a shanked punt, and it’s ballgame.

  58. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    49ers OL pass blocking grades:
    2012 +2.6
    2013 -3.6
    2014 -25.0

  59. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    In other words, 237 is fine in the air as long as we are getting 160 on the ground. We got 80. Net passing yards were 183 with the sacks.

    263 total yards will not win many games. The galling thing is the Rams had a grand total of 193 yards of offense. And they won!

    In another problem area to me, both Ram games, we shifted around on defense a lot, blitzed from different spots, and confused Davis. The Bronco game saw us do none of that. We played off the WRs and let Manning throw with impunity. Do we play off NO’s WRs and let Brees pick us apart like Manning did?

    I swear to God these coaches miss some obvious shit. Like the Chiefs going underneath almost the whole game and beating the Rams easily. So, naturally, we use our slow-ass 7 step drop plays and get murdered at the point of attack.

  60. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    My opinion about the blocking is that our coaching staff is so full of the opinion that any play that is called has to be executed by the players with no regard to the fact that the defensive guys have the same edict by their coaching staff.

    Our coaches don’t seem to understand that some plays are just easier to carry out than others. They think if they call it should be done. Have they ever played chess? A little better strategy would go a long way.

    Case in point is allowing the opponent to massively load the box for a QB sneak. What the name of insanity were they thinking? IMO the play did not succeed because the coaching staff made it so hard for the players to carry out the task that they stacked the deck against them.

    That was as bad as it gets when calling out “dumb schemes”. But that is just one example. Is see stuff every game that just makes me go, hmmm!

    Players need help from good play calling, which includes play design, because the talent level in the NFL is fairly even.

    We are making a necessary transition on offense but it isn’t going too smooth because the coaches are learning as they go and are getting out strategized. They should have hired an advisor with experience running this kind of offense to make the transition go faster. Am I right? I don’t know but it is how I see it.

  61. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    IIRC, on 1st down (the pass to Crabs) we had a couple WRs out there. Same with the incomplete out of the end zone (and someone PLEASE explain to me why that play calls for a 10 yard drop on Kappy’s part?). 3rd down, the Rams pack the line as we set up in out jumbo package, and the result is the result. Fumble-rooski.

    Point being, run the sneak with WIDE RECIEVERS out there. Not when the defense is loading up for it. It baffles my mind. oVER AND OVER AND OVER. sAME SHIT, SAME RESULTS. Watching Indy last night was like clockwork. 1st and goAl from the 5, they put 3 WRs in and run off tackle for 3 yards. 2nd down, they pack the formation, and the TE chips the DE and runs to the open are 3 yards behind the line. TD. Can of corn.

    Why do our coaches make this shit so hard? It doesn’t take them 43 seconds to get the plays in as well. Aaaak! We should be running some variation of a hurry-up offense with medium deep routes and Kappy on the move. Philly does it with Foles.

    Indy also got away with a dropped Fleener pass by rushing up to the line and getting a play off before Tom Coughlin could throw the red flag.

    The replay was hysterical. Coughlin’s fumbling with his shoe and can’t get the flag out in time while Luck throws a 15 yard pass. Who puts the goddamn challenge flag in their shoe?

  62. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “The 49ers have released DE Demarcus Dobbs, according to a league source.”

    Making room for Aldon?

  63. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Or Bowman.

  64. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I wish the problem was the defense. There’s help on the way. Offense? Im still holding out hope Jim pulls a brother John and axes his OC midstream. But I said that last year as well.

    I’m just curious to see if the team gets behind this ‘let’s go to Youngstown for the week!’ idea.

    If the team isn’t feeling very teamy, one would think they’d nix this idea.

  65. robNo Gravatar says:

    We’re the worst team in the league in the redzone!
    That’s a damming stat
    Imo roman is the weak link

  66. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Any new OC to replace Gro is going to demand 100% control of play calling from Harbaugh who is up to his neck calling plays during games = delays anyone?? Only Roman tolerates this but any new guy would be nuts to accept the train wreck which is our O and share OC duties with the HC. Because it is a failure the way it is currently dysfunctioning.

    Best thing Harbaugh can do is realize he knows shit about being an NFL OC and back off = let Gro sink or swim w/o Harbaugh’s “help”. If it doesn’t improve this year then get a new OC and BACK OFF trying to call plays JIMI.

    But Harbaugh is not going to back off playing with his toys. Much as I love the guy as HC he fails to see his limitations to our cost

  67. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I remember Harbaugh was taking over a lot of the play calling after the Carolina game last year. That is when the play calling started to make a little more sense. It is looking like his loyalty to Roman might just cost him.

  68. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I shouldn’t say he took over the play calling. It was said he was changing many of the play calls.

  69. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Source says Aldon Smith’s nine-game suspension won’t be reduced, so he’s out Sunday vs Saints.”

  70. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Like Jerry Rice, I think whatever happens, Harbaugh is done. Even if he runs the table somehow and wins it all, the rifts on the team and with Baalke have gotten too out of control.

    Note that I am not particularly happy with that. Yes there are problems, but the history of such things is that usually things get worse, not better, with an abrupt rupture with a winning coach.

    I just don’t see how things can continue after everything that has happened. And I hope that does not mean another lost decade looming in the headlights. It will be very interesting to see who Jed and Baalke turn to if it goes down like I am expecting. Tomsula is a good coach but an entire unknown quantity as a HC. OTOH, I have no enthusiasm for recycli9ng some other team’s castoff.

  71. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    Here’s something that’s not being talked about enough…our QB sucks!

    Total QBR

    2012: 72.2
    2013: 68.6
    2014: 52.7

    I’ve been saying Kap hasn’t progressed any since he and Jimbo lost the SB.
    Shit. They’re both in retrograde.

  72. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    The HC is good in that job Berger but as an OC he stinks as our O has regressed since his first year as I measure it. Now we can’t run the ball consistently. Can’t pass block. Nothing is consistent with our O except we have better WRs and our RBs are a good 1-2 punch. Kap is being held back in his development as a result of the “shared OC position” between Roman and Harbaugh. Too many cooks stirring the soup is what I see.

    This is what makes sense for the inability of our players to consistently execute = No clear vision/plan/scheme BECAUSE the HC is playing at being an NFL offensive coordinator for which he is unqualified. Jimbo is loyal to Roman because he Jimi can get Roman to call the plays he Jimi wants. We see the results.

    Harbaugh = great players coach. Harbaugh = piss poor play caller, strategist, game manager, game planner, adjustments at half or during game? Forget it.

    Is Roman better? Maybe, we don’t really know as OC GRo is vastly overshadowed by Hendrix. Since the Carolina game? Or long before and that was where we first got a clue to what is really going on. No other OC will work under this absurd arrangement. It’s Singletary trying to recruit an OC = good Fing luck. This is where the control freak Harbaugh has allowed his addiction (!) to control to become a huge negative. And I love the guy as a HC. I really do.

    You think the players don’t see this? “There’s another loser Harbaugh play just blew up” “Why can’t HC stay out of these bogus calls and let the OC do his job” “Just when we got momentum bozo changes the script to some other play that blows”.

    Frank supports GRo maybe because he knows Jimi Hendrix has NO CLUE as a supposed OC in the NFL.

    Too many cooks stirring the pot

  73. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    “Fix the line problems and we are as good as any team in football.”

    Holy Mother of Pearl, Berger. Might as well add Alex Smith somewhere to that statement and make it even more preposterous. We’ve lost to a second string QB in Drew effing Stanton. Then topped that off by losing to a third string QB in Austin “City Limits” Davis this past Sunday.

    Fix the line? This team is better off walking it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHF9itPLUo4

  74. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    There’s a definite disconnect occurring right before our eyes.
    I’m beginning to think the Offense is divided between WRs and RBs.

    Our inability to find balance suggests to me that Jim/Greg cannot get it done.

    I’m also thinking that Kaep is being confused with pre-snap protection calls, ultimately leading to all the confusion we’re seeing from the OLine.

    I’m now considering that the next 2 games are going to determine who’s playing and who’s mailing it in.

    Crabtree is already there.
    If we tank before the month is out, Harbaugh is as good as done.

  75. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    The OL is a serious problem and must account for some % of our problems BUT WHY do the 2 headed OCs not call plays, draws, 5 yd slants, bootlegs, outlet to RBs to defeat it? Because Boone held out, Kilgore broke his leg, Davis got hurt, Iupati dinged?

    Is that why we don’t run plays to defeat pressure?

    No. The problems on OL serious as they are are secondary to a vast problem with a 2 headed OC with no consistent plan. We have the knee jerk O.

    Love Jimi but he’s way way over his head as an OC

  76. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Much of our issues are attached to Kaep and Harbaugh too.
    We won early due to Kaep’s ability to run and Defenses not being familiar with it.
    Once that got adjusted to, here we are.

    I think the Vets knew it was futile after losing to Seattle last year too.
    Another good season lost to our inability to score more points.

    2 things concern me.
    Is Harbaugh able to develop Kaep properly?
    Is Kaep capable of becoming a pocket passer under Harbaugh?

    I’m now wondering whether Harbaugh made Andrew Luck or, if Luck made Harbaugh?

  77. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NJ I’m sure the RBs and WRs have their competitions for the ball, for their plays getting called but our problems on O are much deeper than that.

    We have no consistency on O at this point. The players are confused, angry and quitting (Crabtree, VD, who else?) because of a failure of leadership at the top. I believe it is as stated = HC is meddling excessively in OC dept = no consistent PLAN to maintain our schemes on O.

    Maybe GRo is a wishy washy flake who must immediately run a pass play and abandon a successful running game “to keep everyone happy” or vice versa. But I think the problem is on the next level up and that is why players are quitting = they know this is not going to change until the HC butts out of running the game.

    Surely it’s not Baalke or Boone. Please!

  78. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    If Jimi would stick to QB development he’d be fine. But No now he’s an OC guru w/o a clue and Kap, good as he is, is suffering the most from this delusion JH has = “Hey I know, run up the middle in the 22 formation. Forget the FG”.

    Yes Seattle NFC Championship is where the vets said “F this shit”. What has changed? Not much but the players are crashing due to poor leadership.

  79. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If this team runs the table, Grump, it means someone did some midnight dealings with the devil at the crossroads of highways 61 and 49.

    Not that I’m against that sort of thing.

  80. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think Harbaugh needs to get an accomplished and experienced OC. There are plenty of them out there. Then he needs do what he does with Fangio. Step aside and let him call the plays, not because he can or can’t but for the sake continuity. Of course Harbaugh should help implement the game plan but let one cook do the cooking on game day. I like Harbaugh because he is good at rallying the players. He just needs to get somebody who knows how to call a balanced run/pass offense.

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil it all comes down to our inability to devise a consistent passing attack.
    Yes, Harbaugh is stubborn.
    I also think he’s loyal to a fault with his Assistant’s.
    He likely figures he can fix this mess and may actually be making it worse.

    If they can’t circle the wagons over the next couple of weeks I’m afraid we’re done.
    It’s starting to look like the locker room is tuning out the noise already.
    We’ll see who shows up to play on Sunday.

    If they lay another egg, can Harbaugh survive the season?

  82. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, Harbaugh ran a similar offense at Stanford. At least until this year. It’s not like these guys are arguing in Kappy’s head while the game is going on.

    I thought they were fairly on track for the changes they were implementing. Until last week’s debacle.

    Now? Who knows? They come out and put it to NO? Hey, great. If not, 4-5 means we are in serious trouble. I think 5-3 is about the best the Niners can do at this point, and 9-7 isn’t going to get us into the playoffs. 10-6 may mot do it.

  83. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck the bigger issue is whether the guys have quit?
    Like Singletary, once they tune out the hype, it’s as good as done.

    Point of no return.

  84. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes Berger Jimi needs either a new OC or to get out of the way like he does w/ Fangio and let the game be in the OCs hands. Period. If he cannot back off and let Gro show he can (or cannot) handle it then it may be too late for this year. Who would come in here in middle of season even if Gro is suddenly replaced? The prime concern I have is “Will Harbaugh be able to back off during the games?”. Game planning during the week well okay but stay out of the kitchen after kick off.

    It’s a shame he didn’t consider this after the last play in the NFCCG last year and do some ‘self-scouting’ about what needs to change on O instead of now when the crisis is upon us. But he didn’t. May be too late for Jimbo to get this fixed.

    That’s why I’m prepared to see us bomb unfortunately.

  85. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    ” It’s not like these guys are arguing in Kappy’s head while the game is going on”.

    Well I do think JH IS jumping in and changing plays slowing down the process of breaking the huddle and getting plays called at the line, hence wasted time outs. Why do we have such a history of wasted TOs? He is a very impulsive dude and what are Kap and Roman going to do? I really do see Harbaugh meddling whatever the kind of O we are trying to run, it is just that now we are trying to upgrade our passing attack. Between that complexity and apathetic players who have seen too much of this crap we have this train wreck on O.

    But nothing like this on D. Why? No 2 headed DC barking out changes “on every whim”. Harbaugh stinks as an OC

  86. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil I think the NFCCG was the point at which Harbaugh knew it wasn’t working and he vowed to fix it.

    He’s had an entire Training Camp, with new WRs and we’re still looking inept.

    I basically think he’s in over his head regarding a passing game.
    He may have hit his ceiling as an NFL HC?
    Too stubborn to seek help perhaps, while remaining loyal to Roman.

    The all or nothing mentality doesn’t surprise me, especially with Jim.

  87. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “Phil it all comes down to our inability to devise a consistent passing attack.
    Yes, Harbaugh is stubborn.
    I also think he’s loyal to a fault with his Assistant’s.
    He likely figures he can fix this mess and may actually be making it worse.”

    Yes he is making it worse = failing to stay with plays that are working, disrupting continuity of offensive scheme, causing excessive TOs, extreme swings in O philosophy (run vs pass = “We’ll change to adapt to what we think the D is going to do rather than sticking to what we do best and force THEM to stop us”). I see Harbaugh as a disruptive force on the sideline that undermines our O schemes with his (I assume) constant changing the play calls. Yes HE thinks he knows what he’s doing. But his meddling is what I assume destroys our offensive efficiency.

    NJ I think we (Gro) does devise an effective passing attack and game plan- giving him the benefit of the doubt- and Jimi switches it in between plays to our extreme detriment. His antics on sideline pale before this (presumed) glaring disruption. You have to admit it’s logical what I charge : )

  88. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil we’re all here laying sacrifice to the same altar of despair.

    I accept everyone’s opinion on everything 9er related.
    We all see things differently but, we all see the same things on the whole.
    Hard to ignore the mess that was perpetrated on Sunday after 2 weeks to prepare.

    I guess all the rumors that were circulating about locker room discord were in fact real.

    This could get uglier before the month is over I’m afraid 🙁

  89. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “I basically think he’s in over his head regarding a passing game.
    He may have hit his ceiling as an NFL HC?
    Too stubborn to seek help perhaps, while remaining loyal to Roman.”

    Agree NJ. Berger bemoans Harbaugh’s not bringing in consultants on O to do what he said he would do. I agree and now the crisis is on our team’s head. Yes hit the ceiling until proven otherwise. DELEGATE Jimbo if it’s not far too late. Two blown games in a row…3rd strike?…well I think it is too late for our HC to change horses now. It’s a shame he can’t see his own weaknesses

  90. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “I guess all the rumors that were circulating about locker room discord were in fact real”

    Yes. I wish they had been more specific. Well if this can be fixed on the fly I’ll eat 2 coconuts…

  91. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think there is a bit of panic going here that I am not feeling with the same degree. I think all we need is to fix the O-line. Kappy looks to be progressing just fine to me but what is he supposed to do when he is under siege.

    Against KC, Brady couldn’t handle the kind of pressure Kap has been under the entire year. From what I’m hearing here and on TV that means Brady needs to progress. We all know that is a lame statement but that is the comparison that should illustrate how hard it is to play the position when you can’t set your feet with any consistency. Even Brady looks bad with that kind of pressure.

    Just fix the line and watch how developed Kap will look.

    I think the biggest question is how do we fix the line? I’d like to hear some opinions on that question.

    I think better play design is the biggest need which should include designing better running plays out of three and four wide. That would slow down the pass rush and help all phases of the offense. Question for me is how do we get better design for our plays. IMO, we probably need a better OC. I doubt that happens this year. I’d sure hate to have to replace the coach to replace the OC. Could be what happens.

    Do you guys agree or disagree? How do we fix the line. If we do that are our problems solved?

  92. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Fixing the OL will help but our problems are much bigger. No panic here just trying to face reality Bergs:

    from my 8:20pm

    “The OL is a serious problem and must account for some % of our problems BUT WHY do the 2 headed OCs not call plays, draws, 5 yd slants, bootlegs, outlet to RBs to defeat it? Because Boone held out, Kilgore broke his leg, Davis got hurt, Iupati dinged?

    Is that why we don’t run plays to defeat pressure?

    No. The problems on OL serious as they are are secondary to a vast problem with a 2 headed OC with no consistent plan. We have the knee jerk O.”

  93. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I think there’s a new variable, especially with the rookie at Center.
    Who’s calling the protections?
    If a Defense is getting Kaep to commit to pre-snap alignments and changing things up, it could explain what’s going on there perhaps?

    Yes, play design is 99.9% of the issue, especially when we can’t adjust on the fly to what’s being presented.
    Kaep has to be in charge once the play is delivered from the sideline.

    It’s just getting compounded weekly when Defenses continue to bring pressure and our brain trusts aren’t finding answers.

    Much of this falls on Kaep to audible adjustments but, as has been our history, we waste time getting things communicated while handing the advantage to the Defense and expiring play clock.

    Poor planning, poor execution, poor communication all adds up to poor results.

    Our Offense sucks and has for several years whenever we enter the RZ.
    No way you extend Harbaugh unless this rudderless Offense finds some direction this month.

    I still contend that our inability to develop a Drafted WR falls on Coaching, not the GM too.

  94. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    “I still contend that our inability to develop a Drafted WR falls on Coaching, not the GM too”

    Agree apart from AJ. How about developing the entire passing attack O? While maintaining our ability to run It’s not just the WRs we drafted. Is our O progressing or regressing?

    Funny this is only on O. Coaching

  95. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil it’s pretty obvious to me that we can’t develop a passing game.
    Period.

    Defenses have caught up to Harbaugh and are continuing to dominate our Offense.

    If Harbaugh can’t adjust, how can we expect him to develop Kaep?

    We need an Offensive Innovator of some kind to teach a system that Kaep can master.
    He’s a former Pistol/Option QB trying to function in a one dimensional Offense.

    We’ve largely been successful to this point riding a dominant Defense and what was a productive running game.
    Now we’re looking for an identity while failing to find continuity.
    The wheels are coming off at this point.

  96. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NJ for those who think this is a simple matter of fixing the OL, blocking schemes, the whole inconsistent passing attack, well I hope they are right. Your point that our playoffs start Sunday in NOLA is exactly correct. Lose there in any ’embarrassing’ way as we have in last 2 games or against the Bears and what will we have? A team that’s quit? Failure of coaching? Kiss off the playoffs? All of the above?

    I hope we win but am not counting on it. This will be a 1 AM game here and I’ll be rooting for our men

  97. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Those of us who remain loyal want nothing but corrections and positive results Phil.

    We’ve suffered through the lean years and thought all was right with Harbaugh.
    It’s no surprise to me that we are where we are considering our continued Offensive struggles.

    Something HAS to change.
    Be it Roman or whomever, this isn’t going anywhere positive right now.

    I’m a lifer.
    Let’s just hope there’s enough fortitude left in the locker room to fight through this garbage.

    Leaders have to lead.
    From top to bottom.

  98. robNo Gravatar says:

    Yup. I still have confidence in this team. We still have as deep and talented roster as any in football. We’re just going thru a shitstorm right now.

  99. robNo Gravatar says:

    If we do lose harbaugh,and i hope we don’t i’m all for giving fangio a shot

  100. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Thing is, did Gore forget how to run? We are half way through the season and he is on pace for less than 1,000 yards. Sounds like he is not developing. I wonder if the O-line played better if he would develop better?

  101. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I think Frank qualifies as developed at this point in his career.
    For whatever reason, our Offensive Brain Trusts appear to be looking for answers elsewhere of late.

    As goes Frank, goes the team.
    A QB sneak from the 1 foot line seemed to be the more popular option vs the Rams for whatever reason.

    Let’s face it.
    No imagination is turning our team into garbage.

  102. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- So maybe what you are saying is because Gore is a 10 year veteran and his numbers are down it can’t be him so it must be the brain trust(imagination). But with Kap he is supposed be much better with the same lack of imagination?

    I think Kap is better and doing a phenomenal job considering the situation he is in. Are there QBs out there who could be doing better under this kind of duress? Probably but there wouldn’t be many. We have seen from the NE-KC game it wouldn’t be Tom Brady. We saw from last year’s Super Bowl it isn’t Payton Manning. Sure they are better QBs but not when under this kind of duress.

    One of the greatest games by a QB I ever saw was Montana vs Philly in either 89 or 90. He was getting pummeled running the WCO. The coach went to the Red Gun Offense (Spread) and threw 4 TDs in the 4th quarter to win the game. How did that happen? Did the player just become a better QB in the middle of the game? No, the coach helped him out with better play calling for that opponent and he responded. Kap and Gore could use the same kind of help from their coaches right now. I think it starts with easier assignments for the O-line.

    Pittsburgh went with a similar new offense last year. I have a couple friends who are Steelers fans. All they wanted to do was fire OC Todd Haley. All of a sudden they are starting to understand the offense midway through this year. Funny thing, they no longer want to fire Haley and Pittsburgh is looking like a force.

    We are going to need some patience if we want to be better. I believe Harbaugh will get it right. It might cost us the play-offs this year. Who knows, maybe Harbaugh will never get it but I have confidence he will. And if he does all we need is to keep this defense playing well and our window is back open, not only make the play-offs but also to have the fire power to win it all. What would be more risky, replacing Harbaugh or just replacing the OC and keeping Harbaugh? I would think this is the question Jed and Trent are pondering.

  103. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, the difference between Pittsburgh trying a new offense, and even the NYGiants installing their new WCO offense to varying degrees of success, is there isn’t the giant turmoil of the owner wanting to trade the coach, the coach wanting a new zillion dollar contract, and half the players apparently not on the same page with the coach in question as they think he’s out toe door.

    Our window is closing fast, and this regime may be lost as we speak.

    Sure, a win in NO would be huge right now. Go 4-5 and the playoff window is open by a hair’s breadth.

  104. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- Valid points. I’m optimistic we can get this turned around. I’m just not sure it will be this year with Roman calling plays. This offense is new to him and sputtering while the old offense that he knew how to run didn’t score much better. We were having this same conversation last year after the Carolina loss except without the Harbaugh is on thin ice part. It is hard to predict what will happen to Harbaugh but I think we covered most of the options. I’ve stated my opinion. I’d sure like to hear some more.

  105. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right. The two Carolina games were a microcosm of our problems. The 2nd one marked the frist time in the Harbaugh tenure that they Lined up in a passing formation in the red zone, and ran Kappy for a TD. Later they lined up in a jumbo formation and threw the TD to VD just before the half.

    The first game? Well, lots of pressure, no adjusting, no sustained drives, yadda yadda yadda. Same old story. Same old song and dance.

  106. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “RB Marcus Lattimore has told the 49ers that he is retiring.”

  107. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, that’s the rub, Bergs. If they don’t right this ship soon, Harbs leaves with Roman.

    With all the bad water still floating around the building, there is no chance the Niners re-up Harbaugh’s deal if this season goes south. I seriously don’t think Roman gets the nod as HC.

    Fangio? Possibly. He’d need to get a top OC though.

  108. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    If they stay in-house, it will be Tomsula and Jim Tomsula only.
    If they stay in-house.

  109. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    Jimbo’s gonna be in the Big House. Go Michigan!

  110. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    For once, I can’t argue with that, Dennis.

  111. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Tomsula would probably just do what he does best, organize and rally. He would get coordinators to do his Xs and Os. He has head coaching experience in NFL Europe.

  112. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Seahawks claimed Dobbs, naturally.

  113. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    They ain’t exactly stopping the run these days.

  114. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2018 Schedule
9-9: @ Vikings, 10:00 am Sun.
9-16: vs. Lions, 1:25 pm, Sun.
9-23: @ Chiefs, 10:00 am, Sun.
9-30: @ Chargers, 1:25 pm, Sun.
10-7: vs. Cardinals, 1:25 pm, Sun.
10-15: @ Packers, 5:15 pm, Mon.
10-21: vs. Rams, 5:20 pm, Sun.
10-28: @ Cardinals, 1:25 pm, Sun.
11-1: vs. Raiders, 5:20 pm, Thur.
11-12: vs. Giants, 5:15 pm, Mon.
BYE
11-25: @ Tampa, 10:00 am, Sun.
12-2: @ Seattle, 5:20 pm, Sun.
12-9: vs. Broncos, 1:25 pm, Sun.
12-16: vs. Seattle, 1:25 pm, Sun.
12-23: vs. Bears, 1:05 pm, Sun.
12-30: @ Rams, 1:25 pm, Sun.
 
2018 Draft Class
1. OT Mike McGlinchey
2. WR Dante Pettis
3. LB Fred Warner
3. DB Tarvarius Moore
4. DE Kentavius Street
5. CB D.J. Reed
6. S Marcell Harris
7. DT Jullian Taylor
7. WR Richie James
 
2017 Prognostications
NJ49er: 6-10
Skeebers: 6-10
Bullit: 5-11
Mr Fletch: 5-11
RTFirefly: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Rob: 9-7
Winder: 4-12

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