49ers 28, Cowboys 17

The San Francisco 49ers bullied their way to a 28-3 halftime lead over the inept Dallas Cowboys, then spent the second half running out the clock, instead of running up the score. How polite.

Along the way, Frank Gore went over the 10,000 yard mark for his career and got a bird’s-eye view of the guy who’s going to replace him — Carlos Hyde. Hyde had 50 yards on 7 carries, with a mean ass 4 yard TD run and some get-outta-my-way nastiness. The two RBs combined for 116 yards on 23 carries.

The new look offense lived up to expectations, which was almost a necessity against the decimated Dallas defense. But it was the 49ers’ defense that surprisingly keyed the victory. Chris Culliver grabbed a fumble on the second play of the game and pranced in for a quick TD. Later, the defense intercepted Tony Romo on three straight drives, once in the end zone to thwart a Dallas drive and twice more to set up easy 49er touchdowns.

Things looked a little scary when both starting corners went out in the first quarter — Culliver with a concussion and Tramaine Brock with a bad toe. All of a sudden, the team was down to two corners — Perrish Cox and rookie Dontae Johnson. Cox had an interception and Dontae had two very impressive pass break ups.

The run defense was not impressive at all and Ahmad Brooks contributed three penalties on the Dallas drive that ended in a first quarter FG. Antoine Bethea, stepping in at SS for the departed Donte Whitner, limited Romo’s sweetheart pass receptor Jason Whitten to two catches for a mere 14 yards. An outstanding effort.

Two other newcomers played well, with Stevie Johnson catching two third down throws and Jonathan Martin subbing in at RT for the injured Anthony Davis. New center Dan Kilgore also played well.

All in all, a mostly satisfying road win to begin the season.




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  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    We had receivers running open in space. I couldn’t believe it. It was wonderful! First Stanford and then the 49ers have discovered the 3 WR formation. Greg Roman did good. I am glad to say something nice about our OC! It was the Allas defense(That is Dallas with no D) so I would like to see this play calling repeated a couple more times but at least I finally have hope in our offense!

  2. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think Roman had to be feeling a lot of pressure after the 49ers loaded up his WR corps. If he didn’t use them many fans would have started to echo my off season rant against RoBaugh’s offense.

  3. Bigjon510No Gravatar says:

    It really bothers me how much more influence the refs have now with the new touchy feely calls. The refs were not going to let that Dallas drive die. Those were some BAD calls. Oh and our offensive line still has a hard time pass blocking. They can’t seem to move their feet fast enough to cover the gaps.

  4. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    If Tony Romo had thrown that punch at Ray Rice’s wife in the elevator a Niner would have intercepted it.

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Ray Rice is about to have a few things change after the new video. For one, I’ll probably need to drop him from my fantasy team but something tells me his problems will be much worse than that.

  6. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t see how, Bergs. He already got his ‘punishment’ from the league, and the Ravens have moved on.

    Funny thing is, what does the video show that wasn’t what they thought it was?

    They can’t suspend him for more games based on the same incident.

  7. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- First off, double jeopardy is with the government. The NFL said they saw this video for the first time today. It is an interesting situation to see if they can administer a harsher penalty with this new info. I don’t know, I am just pondering the question. Secondly, I would think the Ravens will be pressured to drop him and then what team would pick him up? I think Rice is up the creek without a paddle. We will see in a short time period, IMO.

    I was not on the fry Ray Rice bandwagon before today. I am an innocent before proven guilty type. Today he was proven guilty. The hanging posses will now turn their attention to Ray McDonald to prove how righteous they are based on the Ray Rice video. I don’t think Rice’s situation should affect McDonald’s but it is easy to see how it probably will.

  8. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    ^What Berger said.

  9. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That’s what’s stupid about it, Bergs. Really? You thought there was something different than what the original video showed? The video showed nothing that wasn’t patently obvious in the first place. 2 people walk into an elevator. Seconds later, one of them is unconcho when the door open back up. Rice ADMITTED punching her.

    Everyone will now say, well, the deed is done, punishment has been meted. Move along.

    Will RayMac feel the fallout like Aldon Smith just did? That’s highly possible, but my problem with all of this is what you just said, Bergs. You needed proof that something happened in the elevator.

    And this brings to light the RayMac incident itself. Everyone want justice, irrefutable proof, due diligence, blah blah blah, but when you look at how this played out, you have a pregnant woman that called the cops because she felt threatened by her 300 lb football player boyfriend. They show up, and she has bruises around her neck and arms.

    The inference is what? Cbviously, it was her fault. Just like it was Rae Carruth’s girlfriend’s fault for getting knocked up. It’s utter lunacy. The fact that there were teammates there all night long attests as to the fact that this woman has some sort of credibility as a partner of RayMac’s. She’s not a goldigger or hanger-on looking for a score. Or a crazy bitch lying naked in a bed.

  10. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    My point in this is the Niners should have suspended him based on what facts that were available. If he sits out a game, paid mind you, and all this gets cleared up, what’s the harm? I mean other than the TEAM missing out on his play. ZERO impact to him.

    The lengths to cover up for these misdeeds is ludicrous.

    Even the Ahmad Brooks deal doesn’t come close to this kind of shit. 2 grown men fighting is one thing. a pregnant woman vs a football player? Yeah, she was falling and he grabbed her by the neck to save her.

  11. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    F***ing Jed looks like a major league pussy for not saying ANYTHING about this. Way to man up, Jed.

  12. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- Sounds like you are leading the hanging posse. I know none of the facts. If they are so clear, how come the DA has not charged him with anything yet? Do you know what Ray’s GF is saying about this? I don’t. She could have got a bruise by being crazy and Ray just holing her in place so she would cool down. He probably has quite a grip. Is that what happened? I do not know that either but I had a similar situation happen when I was a kid and my step mom accused my father of just about the same thing. My father never said a word about it and we all assumed he hit her. We find out months later that she was the one who was out of control and my father was guilty by accusation and not saying anything about it, even though he never touched her. I’ll wait for facts before I fry Ray. You can hang him now since you are so eager to do so. And who knows, you might be correct but I can wait for the facts to surface.

  13. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Ray Rice cut. LaMichael James released.

  14. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ray Rice released. More proof that there are idiots everywhere.

    How about go with what it looks like, Bergs? She calls the cops. She has bvrsuises around her neck. Christ, Bergs, you couldn’t figure out that Rice punched his GF in the face until you saw proof? Usually the reality is what it appears to be. If Ray misses a game and he’s exonerated? No harm, no foul. Jed is a pussy for letting everyone around him deal with this. Nut up, skippy.

    Who get hurt if Ray gets sat down for a game? The team. THIS is what it comes down to.

  15. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    None of the facts? GF calls cops. Cops show up, GF has bruises around her neck. RayMac arrested for suspicion. Those aren’t facts? Oh, you need video evidence. Apparently the original TMZ stuff wasn’t enough for you.

    No one at the scene reports anything out of the ordinary during the party.

    Ignore the facts if you must but don’t say there isn’t anything there. 99% of the time, this shit is exactly what it appears to be. And this isn’t about justice. This is about a person who represents the team.

    Like Sterling tarnishing the NBA, RayMac is putting the Niners in a bad light. This is what they should be talking about. Not waiting for due process. Jed is a chickenshit. Suspend RayMac til the investigation is done.

  16. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    How do you know there were bruises on her neck, Chuck? HIPAA prevents medical release of information. The police report notes marks on her neck. Police officers’ word that they existed. No more.
    You love Nixon’s America? Arrest=Guilty.

  17. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Whatever, RTF. Whare exactly do I say arrest? Like Bergs, you don’t beleive anything unless it’s black and white, and shoved down your throat. The goddamn video showed me nothing I didn’t already know. The video showed what Rice Admitted to doing. Clocking her in the face.

    The Niners have enough evidence to suspend him pending the investigation. Get it? They chose not to. The Ravens had an admitted abuser and chose not to punish him. The league went pussy. The courts said ‘go to class.’ Everyone wanted to sweep it under the rug.

    NOW the Ravens cut him? Mighty proud of you guys. His new bride is lucky she didn’t suffer permanent damage or even death. But yeah, she deserved it. F*** her.

  18. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Oswood’s back again. YAY! Same thing they did last year, some legal mumbo-jumbo about not having to guarantee his year’s contract this way.

  19. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I get it, Chuck. First to you ARREST=GUILT. Now it’s ARREST=EVIDENCE. Got a Nixon poster on the wall of your garage, huh?

  20. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I watched much of the Ohio St vs Va Tech game Saturday. I saw Ohio St play 3 times last year. What was the difference between this team and last year’s team? They did not have Carlos Hyde. I watched him dominate 3 times last year. He was not there this year and nobody was there to do what he did last year.

  21. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    What part of personal conduct can’t you get through your head, RTF?

    This has NOTHIING NOTHING NOTHING to do with the criminal aspect of this case.

    This has to do with personal conduct. He should have sat pending the investigation. Otherwise what are they in there for? What was Ben Worthlessberger charged with? Nothing.

    What was his suspension? 4 games.

    Who imposed it? The league (rightly or wrongly). The Steelers were involved with the entire process, and according to Art Rooney, would have suspended him for 6 games had the league not suspended him.

  22. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, they did also lose their starting QB, Braxton Miller, for the season. He happened to be a Heismann front-runner . . .

  23. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    There you go with Worthless again. As I already pointed out to you, he was suspended AFTER a rape lawsuit was filed against him AND he had a second incident, a sexual assault complaint brought against him, AND he had his meeting with the commish.
    You won’t even wait a week until Ray’s hearing to see if there is anything but the cops’ word.

    BTW, Worthless did NOT win the rape lawsuit. It was settled out of court.

  24. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    unca- In the 3 games I watched last year Miller was not much of a factor in two of them. He was big in the 3rd. Hyde was still the main factor in all 3.

  25. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think Worthlessberger got suspended because the blacks were getting a bit edgy about a white guy getting off with a soft penalty. A tiff over that would have tarnished the image of the NFL. Can’t have that.

  26. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    If it comes out that Ray attacked his fiancee without any kind of self-defense involved, I’ll bring the noose. But I will NOT be part of a necktie party based on the information we have now.
    One week and we should know a heckuva lot more.

  27. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    A minority of fans and ordinary citizens want “instant justice” to resolve conflicts. These also seem to have the loudest voices. Fortunately as the cliches go “Justice is blind” = conflicts/crimes will be determined by weighing evidence, known facts and according to established legal principles like due process not by loud voices demanding punishment, suspension before facts are fully known. NJ gave a perfect example to this kind of over-reaction by a parent who made a serious error by reacting on what he considered “obviously what happened”. Luckily he wasn’t charged with assault or worse. For a loud voice to demand “instant justice” there is no consequence. But for the police or district attorney to violate legal protocol and a court of law to act is to have the case dismissed. What’s the rush? Will the thrill of “instant justice” diminish if it takes a little longer to get all the facts before punishment/suspension? Why? Will actual justice be diminished if it does take a while to gather all evidence and facts before legal action is taken? Why?

    What need is being served in those who demand “instant justice”? I wonder.

    Ideally justice is ‘blind’ and also ‘slow’ so actual facts not hysteria can prevail. Enough hysterical voices demanding punishment based on their subjective reactions.

  28. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Get that common-sense level-headed law-and-order crap outta here. We’re upset and we’re gonna tar and feather somebody, anybody, everybody so’s everybody knows we’re upset.

    Good to see you here, Phil. I thought the Chinese might have run over your coconut comms.

  29. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    “Justice is blind?” You’re so effing full of shit. There is NO justice. That’s the goddamn problem. Ray Rice did zero jail time or even was put on probation for that matter for cold-cocking his wife in that elevator. He was allowed to enter a “diversion program.”

    That’s justice alright. You and other liberals would be singing a different tune if that was your daughter in the elevator.

    And the Niners allowing McDonald to play yesterday was a goddamn embarrassment. The Niner organization has lost all of its “win with class” modus operandi from years past. We are the new Oakland Raiders and have been for some time now. Bout the same time that asshole big game losing pious self-centered son of a bitch became its head coach.

  30. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    This may cost Goodell his job. KNBR reported late this afternoon that TMZ sleazebag Harvey Levin says TMZ will report tomorrow that the NFL knew about the Rice elevator video and actively ran away from it. Well, duh. But, the details will be interesting, if they have some.

    People are already saying the buck stops with Goodell since he knew about all of this and chose to try and sweep it away. He propped himself up as the arbiter of justice, and now he’s gonna feel the penalty.

  31. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Why don’t any of you understand that this isn’t about the criminal case. It’s about the right of an employer to discipline its employees.

    I get it. Ray McD sitting out a game during the investigation is tantamount to gangbanging Mother Teresa.

    This isn’t a rush to justice. It’s an employer doing the right thing in the face of a serious charge. But none of you can seem to understand this simple fact.

    Do any of you have children? Or a (non-inflatable) woman in your lives?

  32. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I see one Negative Nelly has nothing useful to contribute but the usual invective. Yawn. Predictable.

    Naw NF we don’t need laws and individual protections against hysterical accusations. Let ‘er rip, what the heck nothing could go wrong…

    Let’s see, following the new policy of guilty until proven innocent = Easy to see a situation develop in Chicago this week where Jay Cutlers 16 year old neighbor cries “Rape, beatings, see the bruises?” So Cutler sits while Niners feast on the backup. Instant justice? Go for it.

    NF the Chinese are building lighthouses and grabbing PI territory out west of us as we speak. Philippines are quickly rewriting their laws to allow more US military support. The ChiComms don’t give a damn about instant justice, they want gradual domination

  33. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    “But what about the WOMEN AND CHILDREN?”

    LOL, I love that argument. Why do you make your life about a sport that glamorizes women as sex kittens and is the #1 cause of brain injury to children in this country?

    Does Ray have any formal charges against him yet? Has he had a hearing? Nope, didn’t think so. Next.

  34. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Do teachers get suspended pending investigation for molestation charges?

    How about cops in cases of excessive force? Duuuuh. Go punch yuor mommas.

    Pending investigation? Get it?

  35. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Did Ray molest another player? I must’ve missed that.

  36. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah what about the women? Yeah, bitch had it coming.

  37. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Does Ray carry all kind of lethal weaponry that he carries with him? I must’ve missed that, too.

  38. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Had WHAT coming? You don’t know squat about what happened, only circumstantial evidence and a 911 call.
    Is she with him now? Yes? Lord, he must be dangerous then.

  39. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Answer the question, RTF. Do others get suspended pending investigation?

  40. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Rice married the girl he cold cocked. That means nothing.

    If Rice misses a game does that end the world for you?

  41. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Regular folk that don’t involve the public trust? Were I ever suspended from my place of employment for an incorrect arrest with no charges pressed, I would wind up owning the company.

  42. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. That’s so sad. Poor Ray might miss a game because of something he may or may not have done. But it takes a video of Rice to get people to understand what was patently obvious to people with brains.

  43. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck the entire basis of the RayMc issue boiled down to visual evidence, as was the case years back when I cited the situation my buddy provoked regarding his daughter.

    Scary sh!t actually.
    He became an enraged parent, perfectly understandable.

    Where he crossed the line was, reacting before the facts were divulged, from the parties involved.

    He’s EXTREMELY lucky he didn’t land in the pokey or, worse yet, sued for assault and battery.

    Where I draw the line on RayMc and Ray Rice IS the video evidence.

    As I stated in earlier posts, the video evidence did Ray Rice in.

    The Commish and the Ravens deserved to be chastised for their response.
    Now there’s nowhere to hide.
    At least they got it right on the 2nd chance today.

    If RayMc and his lady have video to prove, or disprove, their versions of the episode in question, it’s covered.
    Pictures don’t lie.
    Until then it’s he said/she said legally.

    I submit that the 49ers are correct to let the Legal channels decide what’s going on before they pass judgement.

    Tainting RayMc before due process is afforded could create additional complications for all involved.

    RayMc and his fiancee` know what occurred.
    If they opt to reconcile and no charges are filed, the case is done.
    That will be decided when the DA and Court process runs it’s course.

  44. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Why are you bringing up Rice? Are you confused?

  45. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    That was to Chuck, not you NJ. Wasn’t it a NJ Asst. DA who refused to press charges against the object of confusion?

  46. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I have Teachers in my family.
    I also have daughters.

    For all the educators that work hard to do things properly, something as simple as hugging or comforting a crying child in need, could get them fired or even incarcerated.
    Simply for physical contact like a hug.

    Lawyers are at the core of the process.

    Roger is the NFL lawyer.
    His job is to protect the business for the filthy rich owners.
    Like Teachers, RayMc has a Union to afford him protection until due process is completed.

  47. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    RT there’s a reason HBO created The Sopranos and based it in NJ.

    The NJ Mob and the Politicians were very hard to distinguish.

    Personally, I think the Mob was more organized and, a whole lot less harmful to the rest of us 😀

    Now the Mob is called NJ State Government and has Executive privileges.

  48. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Take a look at Ziggy Wilf, an owner in MN.
    Roger works for him and, the rest of the filty rich NFL owners.

    Ziggy has been embroiled in a decades long law suit involving business fraud.

    He’s still doing business, making money like the rest of the NFL owners and enjoying a wonderful life financially.
    Meanwhile, the people he’s been screwing are continuing to suffer financially.
    The game is all about the $$$.

    The guys with the better Lawyers win the battles.

    Roger is a Lawyer.
    ‘Nuf said.

  49. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So LMJ was cut today. I wonder why they didn’t trade him to the Ravens for a late round pick? Perhaps they just didn’t want to be linked to that mess over there.
    They brought back Osgood and speculation is they will activate Lattimore in week 6 as the third back and when he’s eligible.

  50. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    According to the piece Maiocco posted, Jim cited his open door policy which saw LMJ enter and ask to be released.

    Someone will pick him up.
    He’s still playing under his Rookie Contract.
    Somewhere in the $600K range I think?

    That’s pocket change, unless you’re Jerruh and don’t have any Cap space.

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Perhaps it was as simple as quit or be fired too?
    I like Spit’s suggestion about LMJ being the source of bad press too.
    He certainly made no bones about being disgruntled last year.
    Like Brandon Jacobs, squabble to the media, seek another employer.

  52. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Osgood was released and resigned in some legal cost cutting way. Something about not having to guarantee the year’s contract, so a bonus no longer applied. Same as last year.

  53. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yes RT, a Vet on the roster for Week 1 gets his entire salary guaranteed for the year.
    Dump him, bring him back, restructure if necessary.
    Not many teams would grab an older ST guy, especially this early on.
    Calculated move I’m sure.

    It’s a business after all.

  54. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It’s the liberals, Chuck, that want to trash the Constitution when it serves their purpose and hide behind it when that works. You know, like what you’re so hysterical about right now.

    Hillary and the golfer in chief bury facts and “lose” evidence at a furious pace and not a peep from you about the injustice of it.

    Since when is the NFL responsible to anyone for justice? Goodell is a corporate suit responsible to the owners of the NFL teams. Not Chuck’s feeling of outrage at the justice system stocked with dishonest and liberal bleeding hearts who sympathize with every illegal person or act that ever comes in front of them.

    Ray Rice beat his fiance and knocked her out? Give him some counseling. Single mother of two kids protecting herself and her kids from being robbed again? Five to ten years in the pokie for breaking the law of possessing guns legal in other states. You know, the same laws you thought Aldon would skate for breaking. Just another liberal hypocrite!

    I didn’t hear you crying and ranting endlessly when Aldon slid on a whole slew of law breaking, in fact you were for it. I didn’t hear you whining when Rice got off with a wrist slap in court.

    But you shit all over yourself when Goodell, a commissioner of a sports league, doesn’t crack down hard when the law breaking or law breaker offends you, personally.

    I have daughters. WTF do you suppose you’re the only one who knows what it’s like to have kids? My daughters all know how to take care of themselves and I pity the fool that puts a hand on them in anger. If he survives the immediate consequences he can deal with me and would count himself lucky if he gets to court to have a weenie liberal judge let him off. You? You depend on Goodell for your justice. Good luck to your kids.

  55. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Phil, we will be back in the south china sea only this time defending Vietnam and Philippines claims in the Spratlys. Not likely under this administration though.

  56. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NF yep it’s a strategic waterway that China lusts to control so that their access to Indonesian and Middle Eastern oil can be guaranteed. Like Japan prior to WWII they want to guarantee that with their military/navy. Right now they have a free pass as the CIC is weak on foreign policy.

  57. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    While we’re busy solving the moral dilemmas of the rights of the accused we can count ourselves fortunate that our man Kap cut such a sweet deal for the TEAM:

    Kansas City hamstrung itself by committing to Alex Smith. | SportsonEarth.com : Jason Hirschhorn Article

    http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/93622858/kansas-city-chiefs-hamstrung-by-committing-to-quarterback-alex-smith

    I like Alex Smith but I love me some Kap

  58. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Teachers who have daily access to children and police who have daily access to the public and to lethal firearms/tanks/howitzers and what have you recently are often suspended from their jobs while under investigation for alleged crimes because it is an obvious SAFETY ISSUE for the public.

    See? SAFETY ISSUE not anything else. Is Ray McDonald a threat to the public? No. To his GF? If so no doubt she’s cleared out of his $5 M house right? But we don’t know do we?

  59. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Alex was and is a coach killer. He is a guy you might win with but he gets paid like a guy you win because of and he’s not that.

    I give him credit. He’s managed to bank a big fortune for a guy who’s never played better than a mediocre QB.

    I wonder who he’s blaming for his last game’s performance.

  60. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe if the commish and Brother John would have insisted on taking the time to gather all the facts before acting on Ray Rice they would have made a better, more appropriate decision on the punishment in the first place. That should make a strong argument to not repeat the stupidity.

  61. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Kap’s an upgrade on the field and for our cap situation too that’s made clear in the link. Man that scramble to his right and keeping his balance when almost swept off his feet, then launching a strike to VD into the end zone. Wow, just wow

  62. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    How was it the video wasn’t viewed by them in the beginning? Suddenly it’s available after the public erupts in fury over the measly 2 game suspension? Goodell has to backtrack and make a new policy then the video is available. Cover up?

    Something’s rotten and speaking of justice this lands on the heads of the Ravens who sheparded Ray Lewis from retribution? Yes they should have gotten a look at it before letting him back on team. At least the 49ers are letting the FACTS come out before over-reacting OR under-reacting. As well they should. Ravens blew it

  63. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Reports suggest that Ray Rice’s Lawyer had the unedited video all the while this story gathered traction.

    You bet your a$$ this is/was all about damage control.
    That’s Rogers’ job, protect the owners.

    This game is replete with criminal types.
    Ray Lewis anyone?

    Bottom line is, these owners pay out millions to gather their talent and earn their fortunes from them.
    No owner wants to kill a golden goose if they can avoid it.

    It’s a balancing act Roger tries to keep in check, for which he’s paid handsomely.

    Think Robert Kraft isn’t missing a few shillings related to the deal he forked over to Aaron Hernandez?
    Ray Rice’s current deal was also front loaded.

    As Lawyers should do, there is likely language involved in these Contracts for personal conduct.

    If RayMc is found guilty and released, there will be a scramble to recoup whatever they can, count on it.

    No different than Kaep picking up the insurance policy on his new deal.
    It’s all about dollars and protections from liability.

  64. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    The story seems to be that the league and the team requested all the information on the case from the police who had the video but didn’t release it as the case was in process. The league and the team then went with Ray’s fiancé story that the lobby film showed the result of mutual combat. This of course is seen to be untrue in the elevator video. So they took the actions necessary faced with the hard evidence they didn’t have earlier.

  65. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That would absolve them then, in the initial ruling at least, NoFear49er.
    We’ll see whether the suggestions from TMZ, that Roger knew it all along, will hold any water.

    Lawyers and money are involved, you know it won’t disappear quietly.
    Lot’s of zeroes attached to the NFL kitty.
    Many things go away quietly because of it.

  66. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Ok I see now how this mess got where it is. Thanks NF, NJ.

    So the NFL and the Ravens were just willfully ignorant/stupid and trusted their guy the wife beater that it was mutual. I have as much trust in the NFL as NJ does in New Jersey politicians or NF does in the Chicomms. LOL. So I’m not betting my azz on getting the straight story there. Just like any big outfit actually.

    But the Ravens put up a freakin’ statue of Ray Lewis and 2 days later this team looks like amoral bozos? Perfect karma for THAT amoral stance. The birds came home to roost quick for them and I’m not sorry for the Ravens either. It’s Jimis brother so not happy for that coach but the shine is off the mighty Ravens.

  67. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Domestic violence is a hideous thing and tough to stomach.
    Still how intrusive can outsiders be when the supposed victim neither leaves her significant other and continues to live in the same house and refuses to press charges.
    Read what Janay Rice wrote today about the media and outsiders turning her life upside down.
    I would say she’s in a better position to decide what’s in her best interests rather than sombody on the outside reacting and trying to decide for her. If you read the statement she released you will see she’s not thrilled with everyone interferring in her life.

  68. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It looks lie the Rice story is about to turn into the Roger story. Some are speculating and even predicting his job is at stake.

    I see this as a bigger picture. It is a snapshot of society. This whole thing is being grossly overblown. Why? Ratings. The NFL has big money and major ratings. Also, what Lady Gaga did seems to be more important to the average schmo that what is actually important and that grabs ratings so that is what drives the news. It is about the money. Ratings is what makes money. This story has ties to a celebrity athlete and the NFL. It is a ratings bonanza. Even better than what Lady Gaga wore.

    IMO, what is important here is Ray and his wife. I would rather see a healthy relationship where this never happens again. Ray’s wife wants this too. At this time it is important to honor that. But society could care less about Ray and his wife. Ray is lucky she didn’t go after him. There must be something worth saving. Unfortunately that doesn’t sell. There is no ratings bonanza there.

    So the hanging posse hangs him and tells us how much they know more than the rest of us and even give analogies that any dummy should agree with. The news follows the blow hards for ratings and collects their money while keeping an eye out for the next ratings bonanza.

    Meanwhile Ray’s and his wife are losing their livelihood and what is even worse is Ray’s wife is getting beat up again, this time by society when all she wants is to move on and be left alone. For me, I am more worried about her than Ray at this time but it is my opinion that society doesn’t much care for what is right but only to prove that they are right.

  69. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    In other words, NoFear, the bitch had it coming. That’s the gist of your 3:01 am post. Way to stick up for the poor league. All those criminals they have to keep in line.

    Beside that, yeah, that’s a fair fight, right? A 95 lb woman vs an NFL football player.

    I hope Goodell goes down for this. He should have come down hard on Rice regardless of the new video. Mark Cuban was right. Hogs get fat, pigs get slaughtered. Jolly Roger is the next domino.

  70. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Its grossly overblown for a few reasons. Rarely do we get to see domestic violence for what it really is. And there it was in all it’s ugly glory. A guy beating the shit out of a woman. And this is the truth for what, 90% of domestic violence cases?

    People talk, wring their hands, wonder how to fix things, diversion therapy, blah blah blah. But, like child molestation, most normal people can’t wrap their heads around it, so they choose to implicate Janay as being part of the problem, and since she’s amenable to being in that situation after the fact, say fine. let’s move on. He’s a changed man.

    Which is why I said there’s nothing on the video that sheds new light on what happened. Which is also why the Ravens and the commish (and the prosecution for that matter) should all get called to the carpet for letting this slide. For trying to sweep it under the carpet. They all knew what happened. They all knew this was a football player vs a woman. This is the Catholic Church all over again.

    Funny thing is, where was the Ravens owner? Where was Ozzie Newsome? They left it to brother John to deal with the fall out. Granted, he looks pretty stupid for falling all over himself in welcoming Rice back, but the ones who let him come back were the owner and GM.

  71. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Beyond that, what happened to Jolly Roger’s new rule that the first case of domestic violence results in a 6 game suspension?

  72. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right, Bullitt. In other words, Janay’s part of the problem. Maybe Rice told her, back me all the way or your elevator trip will resemble a trip to the beach after I get through with you.

    All speculation, right? But what does the recent history tell us? Is she enabling him? Her blaming the media is a little out there, don’t you think? Did TMZ punch her in the face?

  73. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting that the police were called to Ray McDonald’s house in May as well. Yeah, probably nothing.

  74. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    And, my last post on this. According to TMZ, the NFL never bothered to ask the casino for the security tapes. What Jolly Roger knew, and when remains the question of the day.

    Did Goodie Goodell knowingly ignore what he saw? Did they just not think to ask for the tapes? Or did he hear of it and not want to see it, a la plausible deniability?

    I find it hard to fathom that the NFL, in all it’s infinite power and resources, somehow managed to not be able to get a copy of something they merely had to ask for. The security arm of the NFL is stronger than half the nations of the world.

  75. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You should change your name to Mike Florio, Chuck. Then you wouldn’t have to paraphrase yourself.

  76. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Are any of you guys seeing ads popping up on this site?

  77. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right, NoFear. You have ninja daughters. Awesome!

    Kill Bill, part 3 eh?

  78. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No, just morons . . .

  79. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Now that’s gold!

  80. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    No pop ups, just an ad between your post and the comments. It plays a video in one of the boxes and slows down this site. Lots of hiccups. It was difficult for me to post this comment.

  81. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You should change your name to Jed York and hide behind everyone else like he is.

    The team had an opportunity to come out ahead of this and say this is a bigger issue than merely football. While this investigation is underway, we’ll sit RayMac.

    But no, they wimp out and cry due process. Pussies, the lot of ’em. The problem here is we won’t get any video evidence, so this goes the way of most domestic violence cases. Lack of evidence and wish it away.

  82. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    But that’s tantamount to pissing on the flag around here.

    I liken this to the first AIDS awareness day that the Giants did in the mid-80s. No one forced them to do it. And they caught a ton of heat for doing it. Even from inside their organization, including their own players. But they thought it was the right thing to do. So they did it

    It would be nice to see that from the current ownership of the 49ers. Too much to ask I guess.

  83. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m running AdBlock, so I don’t see anything, Skeebs.

  84. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks, Grump. Here’s the link for those of you who want to install this free ad blocker:

    https://adblockplus.org/

  85. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers- I figured it out. I was getting the ads everywhere I went. I decided to see if any programs had been secretly installed. Sure enough, a program called AppsforU (or something like that) was newly installed this morning. I uninstalled it and the ads went away. Sorry for the confusion.

  86. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Janay Rice is blaming everyone BUT Ray for messing up her life. DV is one big minefield.

  87. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    It’s called coping.

  88. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Not from her statement it isn’t.

  89. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    How is “IT’S OUR LIFE!” coping in the context of the rest of her statement?

  90. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Co-enabling? Is that the parlance of the kids these days? There are a number of reasons why she chooses to stay with Ray. None of which I get, but that’s a different story.

    But I certainly understand why she doesn’t want to be reminded of what happened. Sure, the coverage is overblown. But the facts are the facts. What happened, happened. The media didn’t create the problem. It feeds off of it.

    If Ray Rice becomes a model citizen and never touches her in a menacing way, great. But things usually don’t work out that way, do they? Tigers don’t change their stripes very often. But she’s free to do what she wants. She’s coping by lashing out at everyone but the source of the issue.

  91. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    LaMichael James goes unclaimed.

  92. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Surprise surprise. Wonder if he was the disgruntled complainer in the locker room that got so much traction recently.

  93. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    The idea that Goodell will ‘go down’ for this and lose his job is just laughable. Who will fire him? A majority of the owners? For what, covering their butts? Not going to happen. That’s just a vindictive wish for no purpose except to express the emotional reaction of the writer.

    Jed dares to stand up for fairness and the right of his player to due process however long it takes and he’s a pussy? Brilliant

  94. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Nobody wanted LMJ for about 6 or 7 hundred thou per yr for two years. That is cheap by today’s standards. Sure tells you why we couldn’t get a 7th rd pick for him. I thought he would be in more demand.

  95. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Agree that RRs wife is reaping the whirlwind of their abusive relationship and blaming everyone but the dude who hit her. What is her part in this? We don’t know. Sadly this is classic victim behavior and I don’t buy it while understanding her.

  96. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs I would not be surprised if no one employs LMJ again. Just not that much demand for mediocre RBs!

  97. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    She married the guy after that happened. Nobody put a gun to her head. It must be worth it to her, or else they just got over the whole thing.

  98. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    CB Ward tweeted that he does not have a concussion.

  99. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Ward just tweeted he does not have a concussion. Good news

  100. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Wow, censored for stating the obvious. Oh gee, I’ll stick to “The Buffalo Bills got sold”. LOL

  101. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Nah, my bad. Just older/newer comments acting funky, hiding posts.

  102. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Over on Cohen Jrs blog is where the serious censoring + manipulation goes down. Posting there is an uncertain experience when Jr has an opinion = like screw due process.

    Skeebs seems pretty open to letting it flow long as it doesn’t get too personal/crazy

  103. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I went through an extremely long time (1+ years) of posts here disappearing. When somehow one showed up, Skeebs pleaded innocence so I blame WordPress. Just deja vu.

  104. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    It happened during the course of the Alex (how’d he look Sunday?) rancor, so yeah I was suspicious.

  105. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You should have let me know, RT. Maybe I could have figured out the problem.

  106. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I couldn’t get a post through to notify you. ‘Cept the one, you responded, then it was back into the Ether. I haven’t had that problem for a long time now.

  107. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I asked a couple guys on Chuck’s blog to let you know. Pffffft.

  108. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The Ray Rice situation is likely one that goes on daily in the NFL.

    Until there’s video of it occurring in public, we’re all in the dark.

    Big money game and rich athletes attract all sorts of attention.
    Maybe now the guys that practice this sort of behavior will wise up.

    If RayMc has something to hide, he’s at least well aware of the consequences now.

    I’m just as concerned about DUI issues involving these NFL guys.
    That always happens in the public domain, where innocent people like us are at risk.

    If you’re a rich athlete, hire a limo.

  109. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs I saw a stat that against the Boyz we ran 3 WRs 51% of the time as compared to 21% last year:

    “Pro Football Focus’ tracking says the 49ers used “11 personnel” (one running back, one tight end, three receivers) on 51.7 percent of their plays after using it just 21.6 percent in 2013.”

    That’s a nice change. People said we would need to score more with our Run D weakened and looks like that’s the plan from our guy GRo.

    RT I’m glad yer able to post okay now…

  110. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    When was this RTF?

  111. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I always thought you bailed.

  112. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Nope. How could I ever willingly miss posting an Alexcuses comment? Was quite a while ago now, but I still get flashbacks like today.

  113. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks, Phil. I was more concerned about you and your coconut wiring!

  114. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s some FUN news related to my favorite owner –
    Jerruh the Head Cowboy –
    Gotta love a good ‘ol frivolous lawsuit every now and again 😀

    http://tinyurl.com/pcwhceq

  115. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Where would we be without all this Lawyer related news these days?

    Now Jerruh has to deal with his own misguided ‘Penile’ Code.

    Seems the Little Cowboy was having an Oral Cleansing with an audience.

    Too effn funny.

  116. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Little Lady you’ve got a dirty mouth.

    I think the Little Cowboy Mouthwash would do the trick 😀

  117. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah RT I remember your having trouble posting over here but always assumed it was a technical glitch.
    That was like 2-3 years ago, right?

    All good here just took a little break to rest up for the rigors of another season. Blogging, what a work out, lol

    Lord the Cowboys have problems right from the top on down. Glad that soap opera is not us. BTW I think we beat the Bears by 10. Waddaya think fellas?

  118. robNo Gravatar says:

    Anybody beside me see 6-0 in our future

  119. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Phil- I would rather see the 11 formation even more, like about 75%, but I’m happy to just see as often as I did on Sunday. It is a welcome improvement from last year.

  120. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bingo

  121. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I just hope they carry the formations forward as we will likely try to run on Chicago. They gave up over 200 yards on the ground to Buffalo. Fricking Bobbie got 60 yards on them.

  122. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    . . . Boobie . . .

  123. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy- All of those Hyde runs were in the 11 formation. IMO, it is a great formation for the base offense. It keeps defenses on their heels because it is a good running and passing formation. There are no tendencies from the formation for the defense to key on and it is simply to risky for them to stack the box and leave 3 WR in one on one coverage.

  124. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You on something, Phil?

  125. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Censoring and manipulation? Unless you are the stalker who goes by IH1977 I haven’t changed shit.

  126. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Ray McDonald’s mom has spoken and she doesn’t seem happy. Here are her comments:

    “Trust that if the 49er organization thought that even a (smidgen) of this was true, he would not have sniffed the field,” LaBrina McDonald wrote Monday on her Facebook page.

    “It’s not true and it will all come out. The ‘process’ we’re trying to respect has not been very forthcoming and it’s becoming very taxing. When the police department dangled ‘there were injuries’ out as their official statement mid week but didn’t explain how they occurred… Trust us if he was this vicious person, they would have been glad to release the details of how the ‘injuries’ occurred, knowing that he was scheduled to play. He’s a public figure and the longer this looms without providing the facts, the worse it is on him. Somethings gonna give or we’ll force it.”

  127. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t “F” with Momma.

  128. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wonder how the girlfriend’s momma feels.

  129. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Reading comprehension is a nice skill. Try it sometime. Problems keep happening in this area.

    Cohn Jr is on this blog? It’s not all about Blog X. Read, understand, relax.

  130. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    I say we take the Bears by 10 Rob- on our way to 6-0 quite likely. Our 7th game is in Denver and that will be a good test!

    Bergs do you have an idea of the spread for the Bears game? I got the Niners winning by 10. And running a bunch more 11 personnel in our new look O. Running Hyde out of that looks to be pretty effective too. Gore not so much

  131. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    GFs momma:

    “Damn there she goes again hitting another man. When will she learn some restraint?”

    We don’t know now do we? The social justice crowd want to wish away women’s violence on men, pretending it’s only men who use violnce on women. Bosh.

  132. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Seriously, Phil, about 99.5% of domestic violence is men beating on women.

    Coming next, those cute little 5 year olds are asking for it.

  133. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    These references compiled by CSU Long Beach don’t seem to agree with that stat you pulled out of your butt, Chuck. Don’t worry, there’s only 572 of them. You should be finished reading by Christmas:

    http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm

  134. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Regarding Ray Rice, about whom there is irrefutable video evidence, our own Anthony Davis had this tweet today:

    #ByeRoger

  135. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That’s the funniest shit I’ve ever read. Does it say who usually wins the fights?

  136. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Oh, so now the victim of the crime is at fault?

  137. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Generally speaking, are men stronger than women?

  138. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Generally speaking, are men more violent than women?

  139. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck
    Are men stronger than women? In your case it,s a big no both physically and mentally.

  140. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    A year ago Chuck had a totally different take on punishing Brooks for cracking Divens on the head with a bottle.
    Don’t need to remind everyone he thought Aaron Hernandez was innocent and stated Hernandez would beback playing within a year.
    Now he’s going go say he did an about face and changed his mind.

  141. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, I have a sister-in-law who is a black belt in karate. My brother is 3rd degree and could lay RayMc out. She is still entirely capable of killing my brother with one blow.

    Try using your poor, weak women argument out on her. Likewise, I suspect from the pics I’ve seen that RayMc’s girl is not some frail, weak girl.

    More to the point of RayMc’s alleged crime, it might have been a hickey with some yelling. You just don’t KNOW.

  142. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    It’s hard to have an adult conversation with someone who fails in the reading comprehension department:

    – 3 of us here try to make the point that ‘preemptive suspensions’ are usual practice in government agencies when public safety is at risk from sexually abusive school teachers or out of control police who have inflicted violence on someone. But no there has been NO sign understanding that such suspensions do not apply automatically to Ray McDonald from you know who. Okay adult conversation fail

    – Commenter sez Grant Cohn (Jr) manipulates comments on his blog to suit his agenda (9/8/14 6:20 PM above) and same fellow jumps in with yet another “What’s wrong with YOU? I never done that”. Read much? So this comment is about Blog X or Grant Cohn’s rat trap? Clue: adult reading comprehension fail.

    -Others here cite numerous instances over the past several years right here. Same sorry inability to discuss many issues in a rational adult manner.

    -Social justice crowd including you know who wants to discount female violence, physical, verbal, emotional, murder against males. Pronto our pal jumps in with phoney statistics demonstrating it ain’t so. Adult conversation/comprehension FAIL again. Quick change the subject to “who is stronger”. Willful refusal to address issues under discussion again.

    The social justice crowd is not interested in Justice. They and our pal here are committed to advancing their religious faith in beliefs such as “Men are bad, women are good”, “Whites are bad and minorities are good”. To hell with equal rights and equal protection.

    I’m sorry but this kind of infantile, parentified group think is not worthy of the religious status its adherents demand for it. How about some adults have a discussion instead?

  143. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I also think it’s a lame argument to say if you have kids you’re less prone to domestic violence.
    Ray Rice has kids. So much for that point.

  144. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Opinions are like a$$holes Gents, we all have one.
    To each his own.
    It’s a hot topic for many of us.

    That’s what makes the Blog go ’round 😀

  145. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow miss the point much, Bullitt? Jesus, you need a map to find a clue.

    My point, brainiac, is that if my daughter came home with bruises around her neck, I wouldn’t be waiting for due process.

    Which is the point. There’s enough initial evidence to sit RayMac.

    This little clubhouse of boys can sit and hide from their big bad women.

  146. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Sad reality is, this abuse goes on every minute of everyday.
    In a way, maybe the fact the NFL is involved now, needed exposure can be gained for the good.

    Let’s hope it’s a lesson learned for the guys like RayMc, who now has exposure to the process, and others who may yet to be uncovered.

  147. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Point being, assuming the worst and going from there in the case of a pregnant woman possibly being abused by a football player is the prudent thing to do, I’d think. I’m addressing this strictly form the 49ers point of view. Not the courts, not the league. The 49ers.

    That this is even a discussion is ludicrous.

  148. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Many women who find themselves in these abusive relationships tough it out for fear of being killed if they tried to move out.

    Children in these environments see it, accept it, often go on to perpetuate it as adults themselves.
    The system of justice is a joke in many States.
    Prosecutor in NJ let him off with a slap too, no doubt with some backdoor intervention from the League or the Ravens.

    College Campuses are prime havens for date rape too.

    Girls are often dismissed as being too drunk to be believed or, unable to stop unwanted sexual advances.

    Add to that, the almighty College athletes who, like Aaron Hernandez and others, were coddled and glorified on/off Campus because they were meal tickets for the Athletic Program.

    This crap goes on at Universities all the time.
    Hence, a kid gets away with at College, feels then that he’s untouchable as a Pro, as long as he’s making money for the NFL.

    And, the NFL keeps lot’s of these reports under wraps to keep their ‘Brand’ intact.

    Problem is, Ray Rice got nailed on a security camera, as did Aaron Hernandez at his own home.

    Stupid is as stupid does.
    These clowns need to be removed from the game.
    It’s a start.

  149. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    RayMc’s girl was not reported to have had “bruises around her neck”, Chuck. So your hypothetical has no relevance to his case.
    The “marks on her neck” could have been a hickey.
    Off with the heads of all men whose gals ever got a hickey!!

  150. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck
    That’s the solution. Take the law into your own hands. Just hope you have the correct facts and don’t hurt someone innocent. Have fun serving hard time.

  151. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Off with heads of all men whose gals ever had marks on their neck!! Let’s not go half-assed into this!

  152. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That’s the point NJ. The video didn’t show anything that wasn’t known by anyone with a brain. Why the huge uproar? Well, because this kind of shit IS behind closed doors. And the reality of what abuse consists of is very ugly. Sad thing is, most women are not black belts or ninjas, and they get brutalized all the time.

    The fact that I think the 49ers have the opportunity to get in front of this seems to bring out all these poor guys victimized by their women. Or some shit. I don’t get it.

    This mentality is exactly how the Catholic Church got away with what they got away with because no one can fathom the atrocities that were perpetuated by these guys. Show ONE tape of a priest raping a child, and you’d have people burning churches to the ground. This went on for decades and no one wanted to believe it.

  153. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Again, RTF, you think it’s prudent of the 49ers to possibly be playing a guy who strangled his pregnant girlfriend?

    There was obviously enough present at the time to arrest him for felony domestic violence.

    But like I said, if your daughter showed up at home late one night with bruises around her neck and you’d laugh it off, more power to you.

  154. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    In the case of my children, I’d gladly go Ellie Nessler on some clown’s ass.

  155. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, 1st off, I have daughters, I’m simply saying the entire issue here for the NFL, is/was damage control.
    It backfired, all because of the leaked video.

    Baalke stating that he was in contact with the League regarding RayMc, said to me, let them handle it I’m sure.
    Goodell and his billionaire connections erase a lot of bad publicity behind the scenes, bet on it.

    If the 9ers, or the Ravens, step out front, they likely open themselves and, possibly the League, to more legal complications.

    It’s a Catch 22 of sorts.
    So, they likely opt to let Law Enforcement make the call, before they render a decision perhaps?

    Gives them the option of saying ‘we didn’t pass judgement’ on the player involved.

    It’s a joke, I agree with you.
    All about the PR implications to the NFL and protecting their Brand.

  156. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    RTF, you think the cops arrested RayMac on hickeys?

    Jesus. That’s brilliant. And Ray Rice was swatting a fly on his girlfriend’s face.

    Channelling TO here, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck.

    I seriously hope he’s innocent, but I fear he ain’t.

    And really, Brooks getting into a fight with another football player is a LITTLE different than a guy strangling a pregnant woman. Isn’t it? Is she a goddamn ninja? Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

  157. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    It’s a violent game played by violent Men.
    We got an inside look at this episode.
    Think about all the episodes that never have benefit of a camera.

    My Buddy and his daughter issue could have gotten the boyfriend killed simply because he lost his cool.
    It’s a very serious issue.
    When emotions snap, the rest is usually uglier.

  158. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Where in hell from the public evidence did you get RayMc “possibly strangled his gf, Chuck?
    Your fertile imagination, that’s where.

    It is SOP for such an arrest after a 911 call. There are no charges, why is that?

  159. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    The bottom line is, NFL players are afforded all sorts of protections from the law because of the weight the NFL carries.

    If any of us were in these situations, we’d be history.
    Money + Lawyers = Protection.

  160. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    You’re just setting yourself up for what you believe is an “I told you so” argument if the case goes further. It won’t work with me. My stand is on reported evidence, the same evidence you have now, no more no less. As of now, there are no charges.

  161. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    That goes for anyone with money, NJ.

  162. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As has now been suggested, someone at the NFL League offices got the video copy in April.
    Make a bet they can’t confirm it?
    Just like the video evidence of Belichick’s illegal antics several years back involving warm-ups and pregame video taping.

    Grab some cash from the fines and burn the evidence.

    Roger is on the hook now.
    You can bet Jed, Trent, the Harbaugh’s, Bisciotti, Ozzie et al, were staying away from the process and letting Roger work his voodoo.

    It’s a Mob controlled enterprise, I’m certain of it.

  163. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Absolutely RT.
    No argument there.
    This entire Legal system is a joke.
    Due process boils down to who carries the clout.

    Wall Street anyone?

  164. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Elevatorgate.

  165. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The DA let Rice off with a class and the DV charges can be expunged, now there’s the saddest and crookied part of that whole mess.

  166. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Ray Rice was a NJ kid, played at Rutgers, The State University of NJ.
    You think there was some Politics at play there involving the prosecutor?

    Roger and the Billionaire Boys Club of the NFL carry some major clout.

    When they ask for a favor, those in the positions of authority in the Legal system bend over backwards.

    Rice had a lot of money tied to his Ravens Contract.
    Bisciotti had skin in that game.
    This was a blown attempt at damage control.
    For that, Roger may feel the heat finally.

  167. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    LOL! This is what you get when social media controls the world. Read any comment section and see the idiots on parade. They close down businesses that don’t share their ideology, get working people fired, and get innocent people railroaded. Is it any wonder they think they should tell the world what Ray Rice, Ray McDonald, Roger Goodell, the NFL and you should say, think and do?

    Evidence? Due process? We don’t need no stinkin’ evdance.

    Welcome to the new brave new world.

  168. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    It looks like all the GIFs have us in the same formation. That could be a tendency. Of course the ‘Boys go to one of their nickel subs and pull the middle linebacker with three wide trips in a game that has Kaepernick throwing the ball. Could make inside runs a bit easier sledding. And the Gore runs are what sets it up in the first place. .

    Kaepernick threw for over 400 and three TDs in week one last year. Two to VD, too. Everyone wondered for the remainder of the year why that wasn’t repeated.

    One of those GIFs has Boldin taking out the blitzing nickle corner by the facemask. Excellent technique.

  169. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Well NoFear49er we’ll all be saved now, former FBI Director Robert Mueller has been hired by the NFL to cover Roger’s backside.

    Personally, if I’m Jimmy down in Receiving at NFL HQ, I’m sweat’n bullets 😀

    Video? What video?
    We talking a DVD?
    Kinda small, could be anywhere, sorry Sir, I can’t recall what happened to it.

  170. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Yes there is a difference or two in the Ray Rice case w/video evidence and the McDonald situation- not a case yet- with no evidence on hand… yet. Big difference. Sure money buys “justice”. NJ has that right = “mob runs the league”. That’s about right.

    But some just want to hang McDonald = sit son sit on the basis of they don’t know what. Oh he’s a big tough man so he’s guilty. See she’s an innocent female. Yep men are bad and women are good is one article of religious faith in the social justice religion.

    Childish. Juvenile at best. Keep yer religion out of spousal relationships you know NOTHING about.

  171. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- Hyde’s TD run was out of a 21 formation (2 RB- Hyde and Miller + a TE) if I remember correctly. But spread/pistol where Kap fakes a run left then hands to Hyde over LG. I’ll look at it again but running out of spread worked well.

  172. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Nope you were right NF he was running out of an 11 formation which we used 51% of the time = more than double our average last year. 11 formation = 1 RB, 1 TE but angle I had didn’t include WRs (3)?

  173. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow, so talking about it is a suspendable offense, but an active investigation involving someone isn’t?

    Brilliant.

  174. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ted Robinson was suspended for 2 games for talking about the Ray Rice situation.

  175. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So, it’s OK to suspend someone for voicing their opinion, but not someone undergoing an active investigation?

  176. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    SOP is not to arrest someone for felony domestic violence.

  177. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Religion? Jesus Christ, who mentioned religion?

    OK, RayMac is really not a football player, and his girlfriend is Wonder Woman. All her fault I suppose.

    So, If provoked, it’s OK to hit a woman, Phil? This is what you are saying. Huh.

  178. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The beauty of the 11 with 3 wide is there are no tendencies if run correctly. One team will use base defense and one will use nickel. The running game works great because loading the box is too risky and passing works great because the QB has multiple pre-snap reads to choose from. If a defense goes nickel the running game is a better match up, if the D goes base defense, the passing game is a better match up. It is what I’ve been calling for since Fisher exposed the 12, 21 and 22 by loading the box to make the offense one dimensional.

  179. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If I would have seen the offense run the 11 so often before my picks I would have said 12-4. It’s always risky making picks, some of us are afraid to put their reputations on the line by being so bold as to make a prediction! LOL! I won’t name any names so NoFear goes nameless! And predictionless!

  180. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m still not sold on this season, despite our success against the Cowgirls.

    Because, What will happen when we play a professional, NFL team?

  181. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, it has come to my attention that the woman involved with RayMac is a wingnut, and has acted out inappropriately before. This certainly was always on the table, but for the most part these things are usually what they seem. Anyhow, fun discussion, guys (?)

    I’m guessing the Niners investigatory team is better at their job than the NFL is at sorting their mail.

    Hence no suspension for him. Party on, Ray.

    Now, Greg Hardy . . . ?

  182. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The Bears just lost at home to Buffalo. They aren’t all that much either. Esp with Marshall and Jeffries banged up. Cutler is a poor man’s Tony Romo, so we need to pressure him. I suspect though that we’ll see a heavy dose of Matt Forte. We didn’t do very well stopping the run, but we did force the INTs.

    Buff put 200 yards on Chi on the ground, so this could be a big day for Gore/Hyde.

  183. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I just hope RoBaugh doesn’t go heavy package because they saw that Buffalo gained 200 yds rushing. Change can be difficult.

  184. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t think they go back at this point. They got 127 yards on the ground without really trying.

  185. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Gee, Chuck. I thought it was obvious Ray strangled her. You were pretty adamant about it. For days on end. How’s the egg taste?

  186. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No egg here. How does it feel to turn a blind eye to violence against women? To me it’s better to err on the side of caution. And please don’t bring up all those poor guys being abused by their women. I don’t think football players would ever fall into this category, regardless.

    Is it better to suspend a suspect, or let a predator play?

    According to the NFL, and you guys, it’s the latter.

    Where’s the hooraw around Ted Robinson being suspended? His crime is a shitty opinion?

  187. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Nobody turned a blind eye, Chuck. Everyone but you just chose to wait for the evidence before making any judgments. And yes, it’s egg. A lot of it.

  188. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    At least six eggs. Maybe a dozen. I should throw it up for a vote. How many eggs are on Chuck’s really, really red face?

  189. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    BTW, Chuck. The evidence has still not been released, so you might want to hold off exonerating Ray just yet.

  190. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Did I miss some info? Did something more come out about Ray or his GF?

  191. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That is EXACTLY turning a blind eye. And I’m childish? Neener neener, asshole.

    Go kick your dog, Skeebs.

  192. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    How far up your ass is that fence post, Skeebs?

  193. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    You object to Robinson’s suspension for “appearances”? That’s a good one. That’s EXACTLY what you advocate. You seem a little mixed up, son.

    He issued a helluva canned apology though. Step one, check.

    If RayMac is cleared you’d be the first to say, “Hey, he was suspended by the team early on. There must be something behind this that the team is hiding now.”

  194. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, it’s the same reason the Jets wildcat worked when they first brought it back.

    When defenses scout our tendencies and form their game plan they see heavy personnel, multiple TEs, multiple backs, we usually run. Regular personnel, three wide outs, we usually pass. They don’t have much choice but to defend that with one of their nickel packages.

    The Cowboys tend, or tended, to pull their middle linebacker in the nickel. AND, their defense is pretty crappy anyway. Maybe soemwhere after the bye and if we keep using the same offensive scheme, we can get a better idea of how easy or difficult it will be to run in that. And let’s not forget that Frank’s been running into stacked defenses for years and still been in the top category for yards.

  195. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, and that vaunted Niner offense has been near the bottom in 3rd down conversions, and near the top at 3-and-outs. Why? Because of what you said, NoFear. The Niners telegraph many of their plays by formation. The old Singletary notion of, “here’s what we are going to do. Stop it.”

    I was very glad to see the 2-3 WR formations as the base rather than the jumbo diamond crap of the last couple years.

    ___________________________

    Beyond that, I’m not objecting to anything regarding Ted Robinson. Where the f*** do I say that, NoFear? You guys are really stretching credibility here. Because I think battery on women is not a good thing, I’m a religious zealot.

    I’m merely pointing out that someone who expresses an opinion gets a suspension. One equal to a guy who KO’ed his wife in an elevator, mind you.

    They were stupid remarks by Ted. Especially given the humongous shitstorm we are currently in the middle of. Assigning blame to the victim is the oldest gag in the book. One that is freely latched on to here, though. Calling Janay’s decision to marry Rice ‘pathetic’ is really blind to everything about domestic violence and whatever they may or may not have dome about it.

    If the Niners had suspended RayMac, and there was nothing, hey, no harm no foul. He misses a game or 2 of knocking heads. Is that the end of the world? To you guys it is. You spend all this time jumping at the shadows of the ramifications of actually making a stand on violence against women when in reality it would have been the prudent thing to do. I hear here is how women are at fault for getting beat up, and that most women are black belts and can take care of themselves.

    And I’m deluded? You guys are on glue.

  196. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Reading you and Berger one would be certain we finished at the bottom of the league. Despite all your expert criticisms, we’ve got THE BEST, that’s THE BEST, record in the league for the past three years. Do you understand how bad an offense has to be to manage THE BEST record in the league for all the years Harbaugh and Roman have run it. That’s better than all the spread teams and run and shoot guys run by the masters, too. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

    If we were actually on the bottom and the spread/run and shoot guys were all on the top your ridiculous arguments might make more sense. But since the opposite is true, your argument is obviously diametrically opposed to the facts and the truth.

    .
    And yes, you are delusional to try to make the case that you are the only one who cares about women being mistreated because everyone else is not the hysterical over-reacter that you are.

  197. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Flip flop much? You’re like the IHOP president, full of waffles.

  198. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    THE BEST record in the league the past three years and not a goddamn thing to show for it. Not a blogger here nor Niner fan throughout the world who would have not rather gone 4-12, 6-10 and 10-6 if it resulted in getting #6 in the trophy case.

    Regular season means absolutely diddly squat. At least it should if you’re a Niner fan.

  199. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    In fact, might as well just FFW to the postseason (if we make it) right now. I’ve had enough of this meaningless regular season crap already. Wake me when it’s Christmas.

    I was going to say January, but I’ll be goddamn if I miss “Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer.”

  200. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Well everyone has their “goat” Dennis. For you it’s Harbaugh, for Berger it’s Roman, Spitblood blames Baalke, etc., etc., etc. But winning the Super Bowl is a different argument. First you have to win enough games to get to the Super Bowl. The team that did win fields an offense pretty similar to ours (run heavy) and won with its defense, and beat us out of the NFCCG with its defense.

    I think we lost the NFC title with bad game/TO management, forcing the pass and bad QB decisions. None of that has to do with run first offense.

  201. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bad game management has nothing to do with the play calling? What, they didn’t lay out the Gatorade fast enough for you? Got it. Bad clock management was the Super Bowl. Burning TOs is a problem from years back. Couple times a month is OK. 2x a game isn’t.

    How many yards did Gore get in the NFCCG? 14 yards on 11 carries. Or was it 11 yards on 14 carries? Yeah, we should have run more. Seattle stopped the run and what happens? You have Kaepernick running for his life and dodging the constant pressure. He made a bad play on the out, and he threw into a play that Seattle read perfectly because they knew our tendencies. But his play in the first 3 quarters put us in a chance to win it. Whitner bears a big responsibility for blowing coverage on 2 of their TDs. Esp the broken play.

  202. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- It’s a good thing you aren’t the book of reason. It would be called the book of bias. Seattle ran a bunch of jumbo but killed us in the 2nd half by running over us with 3 WR formations. We would only pass out of such formations. Not hardly the same offense we ran unless one thinks formations and play calling are not important.

    We have our great record under Harbaugh because our defense is so good. With a more efficient offense we would probably have two more Lombardi trophies today. Under your explanation of only looking at win-loss records, Alex Smith was the best QB in football for a three year period. I did not know you were such a Smith fan! LOL! Or were you just double talking?

  203. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis)No Gravatar says:

    I think we lost the NFC title because Seattle was the better team.

  204. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No, we were outcoached, if anything. Same with the Super Bowl.

  205. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    …and the best part is…(drum roll, please)…
    tonight’s nationally televised game is in Baltimore!

  206. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Navarro Bowman has been sprinting the last two days. Sounds like he could be returning by week 7.

  207. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    For Bowman’s sake, I hope they wait til after the bye. Well, I guess we will see how the schedule progresses. If we are 6-0 heading to the mountains, I’d think of letting him get the extra couple weeks off.

    Better safe than . . . . ahhh, whatever.

  208. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    IMO, the coaching staff is part of the team. I do believe we were outcoached last year in the NFCCG. On the last int Kap should have been coached to look over the field for his best match-up with the formation we had. Seattle knew he wouldn’t and knew where the ball was going. Talk about tendencies. Two other receivers were open on that play. But that is what we had done all year and why would we do anything else on that play. Seattle knew and played it that way, or should I say, played RoBaugh and the young QB that way.

  209. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, my point is, I don’t think Seattle has better players. I think we are equal or better position by position.

    And yesah tendencies are a bitch. The Niners almost lost the game on that play that the Hawks got a pick on. And that’s the 10 yard out. GB jumped it and dropped it. Seattle didn’t. Granted, most of that falls on Kappy, but we run that play so much that it’s obvious to the other team. That falls on the coaches to not be so gd predictable.

  210. robNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle was not has not been and is not the better team

  211. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Ah nothing like a good sh#t storm to clear the NFL/Niner air at the start of the season. We should have one every year, yack. Roger can go hang for all I care with his millions. Ray Rice too along with his hammered wife who whatever she did certainly did not deserve being hit. Ted Robinson was suspended for being in a position- on the air- to do the Niners more harm by his ill advised (stupid) comments. Ray McDonald has not harmed anyone, certainly not the team, as far as we know YET. Hence a suspension is not warranted. If found to have hit his pregnant GF well that’s a hanging offense. Haven’t heard details but R McD’s momma was saying “Police get off yer asses or WE will take action to get the real story out”. Not surprising and don’t F with Momma or her kids…

    Yep Skeebs I’ll help you make that 6 egg omelet with some paparika, onions and pepper to apply ah, liberally, to the smiling face of you know who. Sounds reasonable. IF…

    Last year’s breakdown in the NFCCG was due to all of the factors mentioned: injuries, lack of WRs prior to season, poor coaching = predictable formations and tendencies figured out by DCs long ago + one guy with a broken foot trying to make up for all that in crunch time.

    I’m really excited this season as we have new players on O to help Kap move the ball and new schemes in coaches hard heads to baffle opponents. Let’s go skin some Bears.

  212. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Phil, in other words, Roseanne Rosannadanna is now saying, “Uh, never mind.” I want one of Bergs’ omelettes.

  213. phil fanNo Gravatar says:

    Plenty of egg to go around RT, lol.

    I got the Niners winning by 10 this week and if we win at all I’m going to be the winner = as the only pigskin prognosticator on board. What do you think we will do against the Bears? Spread? Jack Hammer keeps saying the Bears are a “terrible team” and we should beat them handily. 10 may be conservative.

    I think Vic is going to dial up a beefier DL and pass rush to shut down Bears passing game. Dial, Caradine + more Lynch, Lemonier. Ian Williams needs help in the middle too coming off his ankle break. I think Borland plays more in place of Wilhoite in base downs to help the run D.

    Hope I’m right but I’m expecting we jump out to a lead pretty quickly and then go to our usual MO of grinding with the run late. Just think we are in the best position yet to do it with the great crop of rookies + new players like S Johnson, B LLoyd, Ellington, Hyde and D players like Dontae J, Lynch, Carradine, Ward.

  214. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I think we’ll run it down their throats with a few shots downfield mixed in. More typical Jimbo then last week’s full pads practice.

  215. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think the Bears go as their WRs go. Their D does not seem to be stout enough to overcome a down day from the O. If the passing game is working Forte joins the act and is a heck of a back running and receiving.

    The Bears top 3 WR missed 2 straight practices. It’s hard to believe they won’t play. If they don’t it’s a blow out, if they do Chicago can win, especially since our CBs are banged up. I do think we win but if all 3 WRs play and we are missing a couple of CBs I won’t be so sure.

  216. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think Dial should be in uniform. Ian Williams was not holding his ground that well on Sunday. He did do some good things bur he just was not very stout against the run. Dial might be able to go in the game and do a better job. Plus, Dial plays the DE very ell from what I’ve seen which makes him versatile along the line. They are saying Jerod-Eddie and Dobbs suited because they play special teams but I think Dial is the better D-lineman. Maybe Williams just had a sub par game. We will see Sunday if he plays better.

  217. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve telling everybody on the phone for two months that Hyde will be our starting RB by the end of the year. From what we all saw Sunday I would think many would agree.

  218. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I said he was gonna be a beast. The proof’s in the pudding, though, and there’s no way to know if he can be an every/most down back until he does it.

  219. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas: L 10-40
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia: L 10-33
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona: L 10-20
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants: W 31-21
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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