Let the Big Dogs Eat

Through two exhibition games, the 49er scrubeenies have definitely gotten a lot of work. Most of it, in fact. The good news is the coaches have copious reams of tape for their cut-down day evaluations. The bad news is the team’s supposedly excellent depth hasn’t performed very excellently. Back to you, Bill and Ted.

Jim Harbaugh characterized the first two games as a period of “experimenting.” Not sure what the experiment was, unless it involved the notion of playing the scrubs all season and seeing how many games we could get drubbed before the tar and feathers squad appeared outside 49er HQ.

Evidently, Harbaugh sensed these entities were near enough to sound a sense of urgency that has been missing so far. Or he just looked at the date and realized it was time to start preparing for the season opener against the Cowboys, hoping he had convinced the rest of the league that the 49ers could be discounted this year as serious contenders.

Perhaps Sunday’s game against the Chargers will quicken our blood.

Alex Boone did not report for duty this week and now, compliments of the new CBA, has 16 days left to show up for work or lose an accrued season. In the older days, he could have reported after the 10th game of the season and still gotten credit for the season. Not now. Here’s the wording of the CBA: “Any player under contract with a team that fails to report within 30 days prior to the first regular season game will not receive a season towards free agency.”

Any way you look at it, Boone has essentially handed his starting job to Joe Looney. Maybe he didn’t think Joe could cut it, but that assumption seems to be inaccurate. In a certain sense, Boone might actually have more value as a backup. He can play both tackle spots, as well as RG. I doubt the Niners will trade him without a very nice return, which doesn’t seem likely this late into camp.

The other candidate for backup swing tackle is Jonathan Martin, whom Harbaugh praised this week. Of course, Harbaugh praised AJ Jenkins last year at this time, and we saw what that meant. Squatola. Jenkins, BTW, continued his invisibility last Sunday for Kansas City. Nine KC receivers had catches in the KC vs Panthers game, yet Jenkins posted a ZERO on his one and only target. Kyle Williams, OTOH, stomped Jenkins by recording one catch for one yard.




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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Good news about Jim Kelly.
    Jim Kelly’s bucket list is to simply be able to walk them down the aisle at their weddings.

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/11383849/jim-kelly-no-evidence-sinus-cancer-doctors-say

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Not the best of days for the Steelers when your starting RB and primary backup are arrested for MJ two weeks before the season starts. The cops got 2 for 1 when they made the traffic stop. Lagarrete Blount lived up to his name.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11385221/legarrette-blount-leveon-bell-pittsburgh-steelers-set-face-misdemeanor-marijuana-possession-charges

  3. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Some teams are trying to win these pre-season games and some are trying to evaluate players. All are actually doing both but the emphasis changes from team to team. We are evaluating more than most any other team. For this reason I’m not worried about the lack of cohesion. I would like to see the starters play a half this week to try and catch some sort of rhythm before the regular season starts. The running game has looked good but the passing game is off just a little.

    The starters have played three series. We have moved the ball and then missed some kicks. As a fan, three series is just not enough to get a good idea of what we have. The coaches have practice to watch, hopefully they are seeing what they like.

  4. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Somebody said on the radio a couple of days ago that the Lions went undefeated in pre-season the year they went 0-16. Pre-season records are not to concerning to me. I do like this time of year because of the time we get to see our depth in action.

    It looks like Dial might have passed Jerod-Eddie on the depth chart and Borland looks like a player with good instincts. The more I see of Ward it makes me happy we picked him.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I have seen Jamba Juice locations but didn’t know you could attach your name and call it Vernon Davis’ Jamba Juice.
    Vernon is setting himself up for life after football.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsadHRtetxA

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Getting back to yesterdays discussion there were a lot of interesting comments.
    When the 4th quarter started the score was Niners up 17-13.
    At the 13:44 mark of the 4th quarter The Seahags scored a TD and led by 3 20-17. The Seahags scored a FG at 3:37 and led by 6, 23-17.
    All options in the playbook were still available and on the table through most of the 4th quarter. Some have said that Kap was forced into a pass only mode throughout the last quarterand that simply isn’t true when your opponent is up by a FG.

  7. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The RBs had about 20 yards rushing up to that point. So I guess you are saying we should have kept running?

  8. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    How soon you forget. I believe you can’t abandon the run in a 3 point game against a team that has their ears pinned back to kill your QB.

    Dec 8 against the Seahags, Candlestick Park. 4:21 left 4th quarter Ball on 49er 31. Gore pops a run for 51 yds and sits down inbounds to keep the clock running. You were gushing how smart Gore was to stay inbounds.
    Similar situation as the NFCCG.
    My point is when the play works things are taken for granted.
    In the NFCCG they still had to run the ball to keep the Seahags honest and it was possible to catch their defense
    overplaying the pass with the quick hitting “wham” play.

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    You posted this comment
    “I loved the pass to Crabs but Kappy HAS to know you either overthrow Crabs or he gets it. You CANNOT underthrow that pass. That was beyond an awful pass.”

    What will blow your mind is you made this comment in Dec after the Seahag game at the Stick.

  10. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    And then it is also possible that we continue to get nothing and lose anyway. How often did Gore get one of those big plays. Not even one per game. The numbers say that would not have worked.

    Hind sight is 20/20. Since you are acting 20/20 hindsight expert I’ll take a turn too. I think what we should have done is gone 3 and 4 wide and run the ball. That is what they did to us. It looks like the coaches agree because that appears to be what the new offense is looking like.

  11. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    A little emotion flowing there. In retrospect saner thoughts came through later. Some people here are still not over the fact the coaches got set up on that play and can’t come to grips with it.

    After seeing the play over and over and then realizing Seattle set the coaching staff up to run that play I saw it differently. I love the fact that I can think and reason, you should try it sometime. You can’t come up with a game plan to win so you try gotcha moments for your lack of coming up with solutions. Guess what, it looks childish when you do that. But I was glad to explain how reasoning works for your edification.

    I’m glad the coaching staff is showing the ability to reason and changing the offense instead of looking for gotcha moments and blaming whoever they can like some bloggers do.

  12. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    When I posted that comment it had not yet occurred to me that Carrol had set up Roman to run that very play and Seattle was ready for it. We were outcoached and that changed my attitude about the play.

  13. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    You didn’t post that comment unless you want to confess that you’re Chuck. But if I point that out to you you’ll cry it’s a gotcha moment.

  14. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Frankly I do not remember making that comment. I don’t doubt I made it but I obviously came off of that view quickly after reasoning the facts. He did need to throw that pass a little farther but upon further review it was not a terrible pass. It just wasn’t a perfect throw. It’s easy to play MMQB and 2nd guess. I have chosen to not second guess Kap on that pay, he did exactly what he was coached to do. I ended up doing what the coaches did, second guessed the play calling. They did so much so that they changed the offense. You can blame the QB for not being perfect or get to the root of the problem and improve the team.

    I told you this before, that you want to put a band aid on the problem while I want to figure out how to not get scraped again. Thankfully, the coaching staff took my route instead of yours.

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    In case you haven’t noticed on every team the QB get’s all the glory and takes most of the grief for when they don’t win.
    You can triple down on that when Kap is the last guy on the Niners to touch the ball on each turnover.

    When Kyle Williams fumbled twice in the NFCCG against the Giants why did some posters still give Alex Smith grief and blame the loss on him?

    I would take your own advice because your mantra has been to blame Roman for everything not right with the offense. Never mind mistakes in execution and bonehead plays.

  16. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It’s a good thing the coaches took my advice and changed the offense. Actually they didn’t take my advice because they do not know who I am but they did take their own advice while obviously thinking along the same thought process as I. The play calling needed to be improved. We shall see if it is improved, we do know it has been changed.

  17. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Are you expecting a ring from Jed York when they win their 6th Lombardi?
    Hope his cell phone battery doesn’t die so you won’t be disappointed.

  18. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, WTF are you yammering about? The pass to Crabs WAS badly underthrown in the reg season game. As I said about the pick in the end zone of the NFCCG, he has to put the ball were the WR gets it or no one does.

    Are you debating this? Oh yeah, Troll-back Thursday.

  19. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gee Bullit, why did people blame Alex for the NFCCG? Because some people have agendas that precede reality. Like you and Kaepernick. Did he make mistakes? Yes. But so did plenty of other players. And coaches. You say QBs get more than their share of blame and glory, and then you do it yourself. How stupid is that?

    The truth of the matter is, the Niners are pretty much running 2+ WR sets EVERY play. I saw 3, 4, and empty backfield sets. Something some of us have been advocating for a few years now.

  20. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, you don’t remember saying it because you didn’t say it.

    Not sure of the point of Bulllllllitttt posting that, but there you go. Troll’s gotta throw lines out there I suppose.

  21. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    LOL! You’re right. I just read it again. I didn’t remember saying it was a terrible pass. I’m working here at home and getting these comments in between work. I should have slowed down instead of thinking that was me. I’m LMAO at myself right now!

  22. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullitt is talking about the game the Niners won. The int was in the 3rd quarter I think. It was a go route where Crabs was open and Kappy underthrew it and it was picked off.

    How or why this is relevant to anything being discussed (trolled) by Bullitt is beyond me.

  23. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Gore had 11 carries for 14 yards in the NFCCG. I suppose we could have run him 3 in a row in the 4th qtr. He had that 1 run of 51 yards out of over 300 carries last season.

  24. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    How is it relevant???
    You just said ” he has to put the ball were the WR gets it or no one does.” about the Dec game “Crabs was open and Kappy underthrew it and it was picked off.”

    You figure it out. Time to exercise what’s between your ears.

  25. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The NFL keeps a stat of 20 plus yard rushes. The leader was Alfred Morris with 10. Would it surprise anyone that Gore was tied for 2nd with 9 runs of over 20 yds?

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/rushing/sort/rushingYards

    Aren’t you guys contradicting yourselves? Going into a must pass mode lead directly to 3 turnovers. You don’t abandon rushing the ball in a tight game.

  26. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Jesus Christ, bullitt. I know and understand what I said and what I meant. Kappy underthrew a pass. GASP!

    There’s a tornado of bullshit ™ (NoFear) flying between your ears. QBs aren’t perfect.

    By that rationale, Kappy had a better year than P Manning because he threw 2 less picks. Is that your point? Of course it is. Or it isn’t who the #$*& knows with you?

  27. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, beyond the fact that Gore had 14 yards on 11 rushes, you tell me, skippy. Gore and Hunter had 30 yards on 14 carries.

    Does that indicate a strong run game?? Not to me. Not to anyone with half a brain.

    What’s your point? We ran well vs Tennessee so we should run vs Seattle?

    Got it.

  28. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Yep, 1.2 yds/carry makes me want to run on every play. Nothing like a near certain 2nd and 9 or 3rd and 8 to rev up that offense.
    That’s if he doesn’t fumble the ball away, which he did 3x as often as he had 51 yd runs.

  29. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit’s point is Kaepernick sucks. He’ll find numbers to back up his point even if the numbers are worthless. So Gore had 9 runs of 20 yards or more. Big deal. How is that relevant? So every other game he breaks one and that is what you are playing for? IIRC, our two longest runs from a RB came from 3 wide formations. In our bunch formation sets we were not going to win no matter what plays we called. That is on the coaches. Our only chance was for Kap to continue to bail out the play calling with big plays. We know the play calling wasn’t going to change. Fortunately the coaches saw the same thing and made a change this off season.

  30. robNo Gravatar says:

    Since it’s pile on bullit day ‘ i’ll add one more.?

    “Going into must pass mode lead directly to three turnovers”

    EXACTLY … and the reason we had to pass is bacause our constant running into nine in the box got us into the problem in the first place!

    Now we have to go out and shut richard sherman up because of it!

  31. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    Well, based om last year’s stats, Frank had a 20 yd. run every 34 carries or so. That’s it! We should have run Frank 34 times in the 4th qtr! The odds are he would have gotten 1 20 yd. gain!

  32. robNo Gravatar says:

    GUYS
    Our game isn’t on live this week on nfln. Does anybody know what day and time they’ll he showing it?

  33. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Rob, not sure of the day and time, but it will be shown on the Lawn & Garden and Disney channels. They’re running a special on how to spend $1.3B on your new stadium but have your field look like it was installed by a Mickey Mouse organization.

  34. robNo Gravatar says:

    Del
    omg lol!

    Or as the kids say I’m

    LMFAO

    Now THAT was funny

  35. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Rob- Here is Steve Morse playing lead guitar for the Dixie Dregs. This more of a fusion rock/jazz song instead of what Morse does for Deep Purple. I saw this live at the Roxy in Hollywood during the ’80s. Just awesome. Enjoy:

    http://youtu.be/JEDcTRNtGzA

  36. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Steve morse and the dregs were killer killer killer.

  37. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What is good about a Greg Roman offense is if the other team walked off the field it could score in as little as 5 plays as long as they converted the first down conversion. It’s called Big-10 football of the ’70s and ’80s.

  38. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Always loved this song. The solo at the end is sweet.

    Saw these guys in ’79. Can’t remember where.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_EUVUHJaU0

  39. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, baby steps, Bergs. At least what I'[ve seen so far, we’ve abandoned the diamond dog formation, and we’ve gone at least 2 WRs (or even 3, and (gasp!) empty backfield) on most plays.

  40. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Sure…In pre-season.

  41. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    12th, they ain’t going to show that look and not use it in the reg season. They are notoriously closed to the vest when it comes to showing things in the preseason, but theoir base offense has moved away from the 21 formations of days goen by.

    Dregs of the Earth is such a great album. Listening to it now . . .

  42. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- Thanks. One thing I always loved about Dixie Dregs is Marc O’Conner the fiddle player. Many say he is the best in the world. BTW, I have the CD you just played that song off of, here is one more from the same CD:

    http://youtu.be/32QDL63rmgw

  43. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe so Chuck but I will believe it when I see it in real games. Heard this blarney too many years in a row to buy it just yet.

  44. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I agree with 12th. I’m encouraged but I’ll believe it when I see it.

  45. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Oops!

  46. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- Here is Marc O’Conner doing Orange Blossom Special like you’ve never heard it done before. This guy is unreal:

    http://youtu.be/_ICDIb9b4Kw

  47. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    close

  48. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    12th the big difference is they talked about it all these years, but when they came out in preseason, it was the same old 21 formations. They aren’t in that so far.

    This next game should be an indicator, but I don’t think they revert back. I’m as skeptical as the next 4 people, but I’m thinking they finally get it.

    I’ll listen to that in a second. Listening to Louder than Love by Soundgarden.

  49. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Holy shit! Yeah, he was great with the dregs. But that’s just crazy fast nuts. Got to love the Flintstones break . . .

  50. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    I hope you are right Chuck, I would love to see the Niners use more of the field and open things up a bit more. Squawks and Ravens won the SB with a similar system to the Niners with the caveat that both those teams have a more open O than the Niners. I’m sure some statistic or other can be found to refute that but situationally, when watching the games, they absolutely do.
    Flacco unloaded on the niners in particular. That can only be done when the regular season allows for those plays to be run rather than expecting it to just be turned on like a light switch.

    I, like you and Berger have some hope they will carry through with it and more importantly I hope it has success.

  51. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That’s why the first 2 series last week were telling to me. They were all checkdowns on Kappy’s part. Except for the fade to Lloyd. Like he’s practicing scanning the field quickly and dumping off.

    I liked it. Because we had 2-3 WRs on every play.

  52. robNo Gravatar says:

    Good news!! Glenn dorsey should be able to make it back and isn’t going to miss the season! They say his surgery went well so he’s expected back after about 12 weeks. October 26th was mentioned as a possibility! !!

  53. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    So, game 14?? At least playoffs is a possibility!

  54. robNo Gravatar says:

    CHUCK? from what i hear dorsey might be back in time to play november/december! !!

  55. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Huh. I hope we’ve got NT nailed down by then . . . !

  56. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh is touting the New improved’ Ian Williams, speaking of NTs.

  57. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh was touting our new field back in April comparing it to the greens at Augusta National. That’s a four putt snowman on his scorecard right there.

  58. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh says he doesn’t judge Gabbert with numbers. This is probably a game changer for Bullit. Not using numbers for decision making will kill his opinion of him! LOL!

  59. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m popping open a beer and a shot. Maybe later I can tell everybody about my football acumen because I played high school football! LOL! That was good stuff to read the next morning!

  60. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    What timing, my friend that turned me on to the Dixie Dregs, went to see the dregs at the Roxy with me and even played at the Roxy just called. I didn’t talk to him about the Dregs but when we were hanging up I told him I am trying to pick something to play. He told me to play some Dixie Dregs. Too funny!

  61. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I chose Led Zeppelin 1. It sure sounds good!

  62. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Anybody out there? Looks like we scared Bullit off! I don’t like that but it does make this place safer for some. If nobody shows up soon I’m going to bed.

    Here is what I’ve got going now:

    http://youtu.be/YdszVEg6e1Q

  63. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Funny, Led Zepplin is pretty much dead to me. The only thing I can listen to is Physical Grafitti.

    Overkill I guess.

  64. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I wouldn’t say safer, just less irritating.

  65. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve got Mark O’Conner going now. Here is an entire CD. I want to play the song that is available at the 34:02 mark but it isn’t available on youtube by itself so I had to post the entire deal. The whole CD is great and a recommended listen, but for those without the time to listen to the whole thing just go to the 34:02 spot and listen to what fills your ears! The next song after that is a nice Irish song that has up to date beauty and clarity, including a nice short female vocal. Mark O’Conner is probably the most under rated and unheard of musician of this quality in the USA.

    http://youtu.be/75uj4LtghHM

  66. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- Listen to Zeppelin one, two or four and you’ll quickly say to yourself, “I forgot how good this shit is.” Once it is on the player it is hard to turn off.

  67. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I always enjoyed debating 12th and Bullit chased him out of here. So be it. I guess Bullit won that one but why does somebody have to win. A good debate shouldn’t be about gotcha, it should be about enlightening. Gotcha is polarizing like as used in politics. 49ers aren’t political, it’s fanatics being logical, errrr, emotional! Some can act like emotionless logic bearers with facts and numbers while only hiding the fact that they are really the most emotional of all. Can we all just get along! I mean, not completely, just enough to not lose good enlighteners. If we all agreed the whole blog concept would be just to boring. Back to the music!

  68. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I bought a couple tickets to the first Wolf Pack game next week!

  69. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Time for some Joe Bonamassa!

  70. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Dislocated Boy by Joe:

    http://youtu.be/8HfS9FVDFEE

  71. robNo Gravatar says:

    For those of you who i haven’t given the good news to … i’m going to see DEEP PURPLE next weekend! Yes they’re still going and sounding great after all these years!!!

  72. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Rob- That is why I played Steve Morse for you.

  73. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Berger 10.55
    You can choose to view it however you want. Chased out or simply not worth the endless hassle for someone who has a busy life (me).
    I like a good debate like the next guy, manically posting ad nauseum, dredging up years old crap, bickering, playing gotcha, constantly changing the subject matter until you can “win” by attrition are not my definitions of debate or worth the time it takes to answer. I had liked high school too, but I left.

  74. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th- I liked debating you except about Alex. That was the hot issue of the day. Your input is usually good info. You were the first one to sense that Seattle out coached us and set us up on the Kap int which ended our season. That was a good call. My issue these days is the offensive strategy that is so passive and seemingly based on Kap making a big play. Like I’ve said before, I hope I’m getting my last barbs in on RoBaugh these next few weeks and like a few of us have been saying, I’ll believe it when I see it. Always good to hear from you even when we disagree.

  75. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “Nose tackle B.J. Raji suffered a torn bicep in Friday’s exhibition vs. Oakland.”

    Not the news you want when your first game of the season involves stopping Marshawn Lynch.

  76. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Did you guys know that I’m a former 49ers #1 draft choice? Yep. Says so right here on my coffee mug so it’s gotta be true. Speaking of which, it’s 11:30 in the morning. Why the hell am I still drinking coffee. Time to open up my playbook as it were.

  77. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    And I know it’s only preseason, but Seattle looks light years ahead of us. Their first-team offense scored on its first five possessions last night vs the Bears starting unit. Would have been six but Hauschka doinked one from 50+ yds out.

    All of the expected playoffs teams and their QBs and offenses in general have looked great this preseason. All except one…

  78. winderNo Gravatar says:

    I’m still drinking coffee too but it’s 8:47 here. I find i function better with coffee than the other stuff.

  79. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Berger 9.35 I’m happy you see the error of your ways re Alex Smith.

    The offense to me is an enigma. Slow paced and incremental in nature, grind it out, unless it becomes obvious that has to change, by which I mean down 2 scores or more with time a factor. Then hey presto its Kappy time and all kinds of magic appears and it becomes a higher risk offense than it should be in order to play catch up, making Kap the goat when he is anything less than perfect.

    I prefer a slightly higher risk/reward approach from the first snap, theoretically leaving less need for the big catch up in the 4th qtr.

    The argument goes that the Niners have won more games over the last 3 years than any other team and that’s true. The Niners have also lost more NFCC and SB games than any other team in the league in the last 3 years. The evidence suggests they need another O gear when playing the best teams and relying on Kap to pull their asses out of the fire hasn’t worked.

    How about they go a bit higher risk in the first half and try to build a lead then run the crap out of it to defend it ala Bill Walsh?

    The bigger benefit is that the O should be in better sync by the time critical play off games come around because they have practiced a higher octane style of O all season long when mistakes can more easily be afforded.

    Like you I saw somewhat of a change after the Panther loss. Not much but some. All the off season rhetoric from the team has raised expectations of a more open O. I don’t expect bombs away but a tweak here and there in the play calling and scheme is doable even with the SCO mindset.

    Fingers crossed.

  80. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Hey Rob – hope you enjoy the show. Rock & Roll never dies and even the old foggies that play it seem to go on forever.
    Anyway, I do hope the Niners have something up their sleeves because we’ve looked like crap so far. And, I know all about the TC priorities. The skill positions don’t really bother me but both our lines do and no matter how much of a pansy-ass game the NFL has turned into they are still won in the trenches.

  81. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I am a fan who likes a dominant run game. Our use of formations allow the defense to dictate to us instead of us dictating to them. I just can’t take that anymore. I want an effective running game, not the BS we’ve been running.

    My solution is to go with wider formations to take some of the traffic out of the box. We have a good line and good RBs, give them some room to make some plays. That is all I have been saying for months. That will give us a better run game and keep defenses more on their heels because they’ll have to honor more receivers in the passing game. Heck, we should even get a better passing game out of the deal!

    Once we get used to how to call plays out of these formations from the coach and execute with these formations from the players we should start rolling on offense. I do not trust Roman’s ability to call plays from these, or any, formations. Let us hope I am wrong about that feeling.

  82. robNo Gravatar says:

    GUYS imho we’re going to kick asz this year. Preseason to this point be dammed.! Both harbaugh and roman are saying we’re going to open it up on offense !!!

  83. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    You can add Drew Brees to the list of QBs who look like they’re in mid-season form already. In his first drive of the preseason (oblique injury) he marches his Saints 80 yds on 13 plays for a TD.

  84. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like we chased Bullit out of here. Too bad, I love the guy. I guess he can’t handle it when he is being treated like he treats everybody else.

  85. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m listening to Led Zeppelin 1 again. This is great stuff. Once it gets turned on one can’t turn it off. A lot of the music was plagiarized but Zep just did it better than anybody else! Me and the dogs are rocking!

  86. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Rob!!!!!!!!!!
    From what I’ve uncovered, the Chargers/9ers game will be re-aired on Monday 8/25 1200AM ET & Thursday 8/28 at 1230PM ET.
    My DVR is already set!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  87. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit thinks the reason we lost to Seattle is because Kap had three turnovers and nothing else matters. I say we had some turnovers in he 4th quarter because we played Big-10 football and lost the same way most Big-10 teams lost to the Pac-10 in the Rose Bowl back in the ’80s. He says it was Kap, I say it was coaching philosophy. I will accept criticism, he runs away.

    We just killed him with in-your-face facts and he can not accept that. He has done this to people for years and just condescended to his hearts content. Now that he got called out he ran. Too funny. He isn’t as tough as he seemed. I can’t wait for him to come back so I can punk his ass again over his love for the Sardine Can Offense.

  88. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Public Service Announcement

    NJ and Rob

    Tomorrow’s game is a Fox national broadcast with Joe Buck and Aikman. It should be on live at 4pm Eastern Time.
    No need to watch it on delay.

    Rumor has it someone is chasing me or chasing me off.
    All I see and hear are a bunch of clowns.
    I find clowns creepy, dumb and scary.

  89. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m listening to one of my favorite CDs of all time. Roxy Music “Avalon”. Most pop music lovers would love this CD but it is actually an underground concoction. Here is a song:

    http://youtu.be/kOnde5c7OG8

  90. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Democrats won’t like the last song because there was cross represented. For that reason I’ll play a song that they can enjoy: http://youtu.be/pLm2IuOCd5k

  91. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    If so Bullit – I’ll reset the DVR – Thanks.

    Either way, I’ve got to watch it after the fact, won’t be at home during the broadcast.

    As with any Preseason game, all I want to see is everyone getting their work in and coming out healthy.

    Score be damned.

  92. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s a fact.
    It is too bad that the guys that run there mouths constantly can’t simply let the out of town guys know that tomorrow’s game is a national broadcast on Fox and can be viewed live.
    Some people are just simply full of themselves and only concerned with their own agendas.

  93. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I am watching hi-lites of games from around the league and am seeing so many receivers wide open as heck and catching TDs. 49er receivers are just never seen in this situation. NoFear and Bullit think our QB needs to be God and the coaches are unaccountable. I disagree. I think our offensive philosophy is what our biggest problem is. What say you NoFear and Bullit?

  94. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No worries Bullit, Bergers’ football acumen is likely higher than Joe Buck’s anyway 😀

    Thanks again, it’s always good to see our 9ers, even if it isn’t live.
    Preseason has it’s merits.
    Gives us a chance to see the entire roster if nothing else.

  95. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Stop baiting and trolling for comments. This has been talked to death. I’m glad you find nothing wrong with turning the ball over 3 times in the last quarter on your last 3 possessions in a one score game.
    It has already been established that somebody who lives outside of California is in complete denial.

  96. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I’m out it’s late.

    FYI Matt Prater is getting suspended for the first 4 games for violating his probation and drinking some beers.

  97. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Welcome back Bullit! Let the games begin! You now I love you! I figured you couldn’t stay away! How is that Sardine Can Offense working for you?

  98. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Three turnovers are because the play calls are high risk or something else? The reason in denial Bullit has no concept that we would ever have been in that situation without said QB is he still thinks Alex Smith would have been the answer.

  99. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    “Stop baiting and trolling for comments. This has been talked to death. I’m glad you find nothing wrong with turning the ball over 3 times in the last quarter on your last 3 possessions in a one score game.
    It has already been established that somebody who lives outside of California is in complete denial.”

    Funny shit! Obviously some are clueless.

  100. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Did the turnovers happen because the caching staff depended on big plays from Kap or because our game plan called for high risk play calls when they got behind like the Big-10 did vs the Pac-10 in the ’80s?

  101. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I make fun of Democrats and NJ come to Bullit’s rescue. I love it!

  102. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, you’ve polished your argument that Kaepernick’s mistakes aren’t his fault and it’s no more than polishing a turd. It still stinks.

    How would you guess our caveman offense would rate in points scored per offensive snap?

  103. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- I love your response. It is as expected. Why don’t you protect your buddy Bullit on this issue?

    To clarify, Kap’s mistakes are his fault. I wish I was his coach so I could minimize his opportunities to make mistakes. You and Bullit advocate a high risk offense and then blame the man who has to make it happen. A couple of Schembechlers indeed!

  104. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I think your football acumen has been drinking again.

    And where exactly was I defending or rescuing Bullit?
    I thanked him for posting the 9er game info.

    What some of us have recognized is, Kaep locking onto his primary read.
    I’m sure Coaching isn’t that simple as to have him make one pre-snap read and force it.
    If so, the Seattle Coaches had it figured out before Kaep did.
    Kaep needs to spread the ball around.
    Something he has shown a little improvement with through a couple of brief preseaon series.

  105. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger,

    Stop building straw men. I’ve never advocated a high risk offense. And certainly not with our latest QBs.

    I couldn’t help but notice you didn’t answer my question. My guess is you know it won’t support your campaign against Harbaugh’s and Roman’s offense. In fact it makes a joke of your argument.

    Is the name calling always a part of your taking criticism? It always seems to be your go to response to a different opinion.

  106. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear asks “How would you guess our caveman offense would rate in points scored per offensive snap?”

    If we aren’t very high on the list it would be a disappointment since we go 3 and out so often. I would say the answer would have to be #1 since we run so few plays Do tell!

  107. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear asks “I couldn’t help but notice you didn’t answer my question. My guess is you know it won’t support your campaign against Harbaugh’s and Roman’s offense. In fact it makes a joke of your argument.”

    I apologize but what is the question? I think I missed it.

  108. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, everyone noticed Kaepernick making the conscious effort to work through his progressions and find the outlet. It’s as if the coaches knew he was having trouble doing it and are working with him to improve his skills! Can you imagine that?!

    A point I’ve made many times is that we will see an improved passing game when the QB is able to handle it. It seems that might be the case rather than the coaches just holding our offense back as some would have it.

  109. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- So what is your solution to Kap locking on to targets. Remember he has only 23 starts and has 4 road play-off wins. An incredible stat that could be historic. What is he supposed to be, a perfect human being? You and Bullit can go into a photo booth and show us what perfection is. LMAO

  110. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, your powers of deduction are taking the night off. Going three and out “so often” would bring the rate DOWN not up and number of plays run doesn’t change the rate in and of itself. We are top five in that category and that means top five in offense efficiency.

  111. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- You Remind me of the General who sends all his troops over the bridge to be slaughtered and then blames it on the troops.

  112. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m thinking Kaep is benefitting from Berger’s football acumen too NoFear49er.
    Perhaps he’s frequenting the 49erOutsider?

    Somewhere in this exchange of 9er bloggery, I was somehow summoned to thank Bullit for posting the TV broadcast when Berger used the word Democrat too.

    Not quite sure how that occurred but it did.

  113. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- If you like our offense that puts in the same category with Woody Hayes and Bo Schembechler. I would not be proud of that semblance.

  114. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Which general was that? The insurance quote guy?

    You’ve been making excuses for our QBs for so long it’s become a bad habit.

  115. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Understood. As a Democrat you are usually confused.

  116. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- You are still making excuses for Mike Nolan. Your credibility is not exactly high.

  117. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I think we’re all aware of Kaeps’ limited experience and, some of us have suggested that it limits the scope of plays he might otherwise have mastered.
    As we did with Alex, let’s not start with the ‘haters’ angle simply for making comments about our observations.
    It’s simply constructive criticism being applied to frustrating results.

    Yes, Coaching has it’s flaws.
    No one is suggesting it’s all one or the other but, a combination of each.
    Like you, I want to see a more balanced attack and better use of the WRs.
    Kaep checking down to his outlets in preseason thus far, could have made a difference in Seattle too during the ill advised pre-snap decision to test Dick in the end zone.

    We’ll see whether he’s learned to expand his repertoire when things get rolling this season.

  118. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, you’re always changing the argument. When the coaches correctly game plan against opponents and the players execute it and it results in a win, yeah, I’ll defend that offense against folks saying the OC and the HC are idiots for running it.

    We’d all rather have a more potent offense. That includes me. But until we do, I’ll gladly take the one that wins anyway.

  119. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s get it straight Berger, I’m an Independent.

    Neither Democrat or Republican.
    No room to mix Politics with 49er football anyway.

    It detracts greatly from your football acumen.

  120. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t make excuses for Mike Nolan. He got three years to turn around a bad team when he was promised five, with a rookie QB who wasn’t very good and losing two OCs didn’t help much either. No excuses. He didn’t win enough games as HC. Can you think of any other great coaches who failed at HC?

  121. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Peter Carroll face-planted early on too.
    As did Saban.

    Not an easy gig by any stretch.

  122. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s alright NJ49er, he’ll tell you tomorrow how stupid he sounded tonight.

  123. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I’m laughing my ass off that another Democrat is embarrassed to say they are a Democrat! You are a Democrat. Period, end of story.

  124. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, they all do unless they get out early like Bill Walsh. Look at Seifert and Jimmy Johnson.

  125. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I am loving life right now. You two need to wake Bullit up. He hasn’t had a advocate for a while. I am abolishing you guys with half my brain tied behind my back.

  126. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Good point- Carrol face planted twice and now knows what a 3 WR formation is. RoBaugh is still learning.

  127. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I’ve voted both ways and have done so for many years.
    I still contend that the system boils down to choosing the lesser of 2 evils.

    NoFear49er, Belichick and the Ol’ Ball Coach had their feeble beginnings as well.
    It’s not a profession for the weak of mind or spirit.

    Given the strength of our current roster, Harbaughs’ job has been made much easier too.

  128. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    How about that coward Bobby Petrino in Atlanta too?
    I just hope Harbaugh sticks around to do battle with Pete for the foreseeable future too.

    The NFC West has proven to be a very competitive Division.
    Hope it stays that way.

  129. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    So the Democrat who is embarrassed to say he s a Democrat is now making excuses for Harbaugh inciting that Billacheat wasn’t so good at first? I’m starting to understand this situation. So it is Harbaugh or Kap at fault? I always thought it was more of a team game. Big brother did beat little brother in the Super Bowl. Coincidence?

  130. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger it’s not simply WRs that make the difference.
    Walsh utilizing the RB as a Receiver paid huge dividends too.
    I loved the addition of LMJ for that very reason.

    Thought he’d make a huge contribution as a check-down receiver too.
    Thus far?
    He’s been invisible.
    Either through his non-inclusion in the game plan or, his inability to work his way into a meaningful role.

  131. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er, I agree on each point. The primary system allows a few voters to decide who the parties’ candidates will be. It’s only the general voter apathy that allows it to survive election after election.

    And I don’t like term limits to do what the voters should but given the current condition of politics, voters and political corruption I’m for it now. Those two things would go a long ways toward a more representative government.

  132. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    My retort regarding Belichick was another example of HCs that didn’t fare well in their early endeavors, as proposed by NoFear49er.
    No comparison intended between Harbaugh and Bill.

    I stated that both Coaching and Kaep are at fault to varying degrees.

    I don’t expect Kaep to be Joe 2 years into his career.
    I have said that Kaep has a much higher ceiling than Alex, have I not?
    He’s obviously been chosen as the long-term replacement for a reason.

    Like you, I want to see him deliver a Lombardi or 2.
    Like you, I want to see Harbaugh and Roman add some rhythm to the passing game.

    Unlike you, I don’t measure my IQ for football on what lever I pull during an election.

    Let’s keep Politics where it belongs, a private matter that has no place in a football conversation.

  133. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Did I start the political dialogue or did you come to the rescue of a comment? You are a Democrat. I’m OK with that. What entertains me is you are embarrassed to admit it.

  134. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger a very simple answer regarding a HC’s success or failure is ALWAYS attached to the play of the QB.

    If Harbaugh is the QB whisperer many of us believe he is, he’ll do well to get Kaep up to speed as a pocket assassin.

    His legs are there to save him right now.
    He won’t survive or, have a lengthy career if he’s nothing more than a RB with a big arm.

    I think Mike Vick has already proven that that doesn’t work for long.

  135. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger you posted something about Democrats and a song of some sort.

    I happened to come into the thread and thanked Bullit for advising me that Fox was televising our game Nationally.
    Not sure where you made a connection to Democrats, me, and Bullit?

    Either way, I’m a registered Independent.
    Whether you buy it or not is up to you.
    Still doesn’t change my allegiance to the 9ers in any way.

  136. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    To compare Vick and Kap running is like comparing the fat that Romney put a dog on top of the roof of a car and Obama ate dog. Only the press would sell the comparison.

    Kap is a pocket passer who runs because he has no one to throw to in a Roman offense. I do know you do not understand this fact. I do give you some slack on this except when you start calling me out. Vick was just a running QB. Big difference. I will allow to be delusional since most fans are.

  137. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger it’s a situation where Kaep needs to see more options is all.
    My Vick reference is made to illustrate the that QBs that leave the pocket eventually get nailed.

    I’d prefer to see less Pistol-based running and more conventional pocket passing.
    Vick and Kaep are mobile QBs with big arms. Nothing more.

    Kaep has much more potential between his ears than I think Vick will ever have.
    I just want to see Harbaugh get that portion of his game to the field this year.
    With our Defense handicapped and revamped, our Offense needs to step it up early.

  138. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- BTW, your governor is an embarrassment to the Republican Party. If your state re-elects him I will call you SOBs out! Your state can’t get anything right. It just tells us all why Democrats rule in New Jersey!

  139. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- You are the expert here telling us what Kap has to learn. I’m just trying to know by what you tell all of us! I’m sure you and NoFear and Bullit know more than the coach does.

  140. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- If I was the OC you would see more Pistol. Difference is I would be basterdize it like Roman does. I can not believe how you bow to Roman’s feet. You win some and lose some

  141. robNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks niner brothers for all the help. I guess our game today is the main one on fox so i can watch it live at 4 !

    Dont worry about me being an out of state fan or anyrhing just reply with sarcasm to my pleas np

    😉

  142. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Game day!

  143. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    You asked this question
    “Did the turnovers happen because the caching staff depended on big plays from Kap or because our game plan called for high risk play calls when they got behind like the Big-10 did vs the Pac-10 in the ’80s?”

    Let me remind you that at the start of the 4th quarter the Niners lead 17-13. What high risk play calls? Please explain in detail if you do not agree.

    Kap was strip sacked and fumbled on a 3rd and 6 at the 49er 29.
    What you seem to forget is it was actually 3rd and 1 at the 49er 34 but Kap and the Niners were called for delay of game and penalized 5 yards. Big difference between 3rd and 1 and 3rd and 6 but reasonably convertible. Not sure how you can call this a high risk situation brought on by the gameplan.

    The second turnover was on a 1st and 10 at the 49er 26 the 7:44 mark still down by 3. On the previous play Hunter had gained a first down with an 11 yard run on 1st down. The Niners only had the ball for 2 plays before Kap threw his INT to Chancellor. Very simple pass that Kap failed to get over the Safety. Pretty basic pass play and Kap should have gotten the ball over the Safety. Not sure how you can make the coaches a scapegoat on this obvious mis-read. The very same thing happened in Green Bay a week earlier except the Packer S Hyde dropped a sure interception.

    Keep trying to build straw men and hyperbole.
    When all else fails tell us how inexperienced Kap is even though this is year 4 and he has the big contract now and never mind that Luck and Russell Wilson aren’t leaning on the inexperience card.
    If this fails shift and deflect the topic to politics which nobody else is interested in discussing but seems to be your desperation ploy.

  144. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Keep selling yourself that our offense is good. Even the coach decided he didn’t like it and rebuilt it.

  145. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Rams might be done before the season even starts.
    They might have to rely on ex Niner Shaun Hill to be their QB.
    Bradford just can’t stay healthy.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/24/rams-worry-that-bradford-re-tore-acl/

  146. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, Shaun Hill might be an improvement. Rams might have lucked into one.

    Divots already coming up during pregame warmups. This ought to be interesting. No bitching allowed should someone get injured because of shoddy sod. No one to blame but ourselves.

  147. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, you really are a sloppy drunk.

  148. EarlNo Gravatar says:

    Good start, Kappy.

  149. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    14 yards and one turnover on three first quarter drives. We may need to rebuild the rebuild at this rate, Berger.

  150. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I got the game online – Thunder 100.7
    I’ll watch the game tomorrow – Got the DVR rolling

    As for our Gov here in NJ?
    He could be in prison before he even gets a sniff for a Prez run, let alone re-election.
    Complete effn boob.

  151. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Craig Dahl beaten badly again for a TD.

    I’ll say it again — root for his POS ass to get injured.

  152. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Sam Bradford done for the year. Again. ACL on the same knee as last year.
    What a waste of money he’s turned out to be.

  153. robNo Gravatar says:

    Wow hyde is a beast snyder is in at guard

  154. robNo Gravatar says:

    The chargers were fired up and we were’nt imho

  155. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Let the QB controversy begin.

  156. robNo Gravatar says:

    Gabbert looks serviceable today. He still needs to settle down imo

  157. robNo Gravatar says:

    Sure thing skeebs kaep or rivers lol

  158. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Rob! Can I count on you this yr for FF? If not, let me know so I can sent out other invites.

  159. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Our 1st team O-line really struggled today. I’ve never seen Iupati look that bad. I did like the play calling that was utilized while Gabbert was in. It was simple and consistent. I hope that is what the rebuild looks like in two weeks. Nice game by the 270lb slot receiver! Aaron Lynch looks like he might make the team. What a game he had.

  160. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Hyde, Ward and Lynch continue to look very solid. Too bad about Martin, hopefully it was not as bad as it looked.

  161. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Maiocco says Martin hurt his knee. They don’t know the severity. He is in a knee brace.

  162. RTFireflyNo Gravatar says:

    The Rams passed on Bortles to get an O-lineman, and Bridgewater to get yet another D-lineman. Notice I didn’t mention Johnny Football.
    It’s difficult to feel sorry for some teams, moreso if they’re in your division.

  163. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I think the comment about the knee brace for Marcus, was to suggest he had it on during the game, which could’ve provided some protection, ala Snyder earlier in PS.

    Let’s hope so anyway.

  164. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, that’s what it looks like. Maiocco retyped that article. When he originally posted the news it sounded like the doctors had him in a brace.

  165. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Just hope it isn’t serious Berger.

    I hate PS games, because some guys are playing tentative, while others are going full bore to make an impression.

    Snyder made the comment that Solari is a stickler for knee protection.
    This is the reason why.

  166. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Hey, Berger! Did ya hear both Joe Buck and Troy Aikman near the end of the game? They both called Greg Roman a great OC. That had to make your skin crawl.

  167. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I do think there was a deliberate attempt to work some of the quick-hitters today.
    Haven’t watched it but, from the radio call, it sounded like they tried to run some slants/dump offs.

    Kaep admitted via Maiocco that the plays were called properly, just didn’t execute them.

    It’s a start I guess….

  168. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Gotta like the results from VMcD thus far as a pass catcher too Del.

  169. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del I heard that. It made me pause and think to myself, “whatever”.

  170. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    PFT is reporting that Harbaugh plans to give reps to Kaep in Houston later this week.

    Makes me wonder if there’s some concerns for Kaep and his handling of the Offense at this point?

    Facing the ‘bubble guys’ isn’t much of a tune-up outing is it?

    Strange.

  171. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas: L 10-40
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia: L 10-33
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona: L 10-20
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants: W 31-21
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle: L 13-24
Dec. 3: at Chicago: W 15-14
Dec. 10: at Houston: W 26-16
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee: W 25-23
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville: W 44-33
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams: W 34-13
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
NJ49er: 6-10
Skeebers: 6-10
Bullit: 5-11
Mr Fletch: 5-11
RTFirefly: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Rob: 9-7
Winder: 4-12

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