Dumb Guy Gazette

It’s been 20 years since the 49ers last won a Super Bowl. During that time of failure and boredom, all of us have gone from young dumb guys to old dumb guys. If they go another 20 without one, some of us will be dead dumb guys.

It could be worse. The Raiders have sucked for 31 years. It’s been 50 years since Cleveland last won an NFL title. 57 since Detroit came out on top. Over on the baseball side of life, it’s 106 years of futility for the Chicago Cubs.

The team made it through the first week of OTAs without any major injuries. No injuries at all were reported, actually. Which means there was no news coming out of camp last week. Except for no-shows Vernon Davis and Alex Boone.

Boone wants more money, and he probably deserves it. To my knowledge, Vernon didn’t say why he missed camp, forfeiting a $200,000 bonus in the process, but everyone assumes it’s another money thing. He said on his Twitter account on May 20th that his “.. dream is to be a NINER until I’m old and gray.” That doesn’t sound like a guy who’s going to be unreasonable. Though laughing off 200 grand might indicate otherwise on the reason scale. It appears VD’s wife recently gave birth to a new kid, so maybe he’s doing Dad duty these days.

June 1 marked the day ex-49er Carlos Rogers’ contract came off the books, freeing up $6+ million for the team’s salary cap. The cap was introduced to the NFL the same year the Niners won their last SB title — 1994. It was $34.6 million per team that year. Now it’s in excess of $130 million. A bit of a jump, you might say.

Many people expect that 6 million to be used to extend the contract of Colin Kaepernick. He’s still got one year left on his under-a-million rookie contract, which could get the team through this coming year before they begin tossing mega wads at the lad in 2015, when the current cap is expected to rise another $10 million. They’ll no doubt have to get rid of the salaries of Justin Smith and Frank Gore. And maybe a few more.

As for Michael Crabtree’s extension, I just don’t see it happening. This is his sixth year here and he’s not close to being one of the league’s elite receivers, in addition to being an injury risk. If Crab wanted to be a Niner for Life, and accept a humble salary, he might be here next year. I’m not thinking he’s thinking either of those choices is desirable.




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  1. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    One of the more bizarre things I’ve read in a while is Ed Werder of ESPN tweeting that the Cowgurls are considering signing Brian Urlacher to replace the injured Sean Lee.
    Reason Urlacher wasn’t playing last year is nobody offered him a decent enough contract worthy of his declining skills. Question is what does Urlacher have left? Or should the Cowgurls bring back Chuck Howley or Lee Roy Jordan?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

  2. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    If not for our cave man offense we would have had at least one SB victory in the last 3 years. The one year our offense did work fairly well was when Alex Smith was starting, but IMO that had more to do with the fact that Jeff Fisher hadn’t shown the league how to defense a RoBaugh offense yet than Alex being the QB. Kap is the necessary upgrade for Greg Roman and his third and long strategy. An OC like Roman needs a big play QB to bail out his philosophy.

  3. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The reality is we should have been in the last 3 Super Bowls
    but were sidetracked by 5 devastating crippling turnovers.

    Arguably those final turnovers were on the scale of Roger Craig’s fumble in the playoff loss to the NY Giants.

    Turnovers are truly the equalizer that makes a superior team vulnerable which is doubly true for the Niners.

  4. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    An offense that is more efficient in the 1st quarter will not have to take some of the chances it takes in the 4th. A lot of our turnovers are caused by trying to squeeze a big play when the other team knows we need it. Why not just be more efficient at the beginning of the game and make the other team have to go for the big play instead. Our Sardine Can Offense works great against weak and average teams but gets stymied by good teams. (See Schembechler, Bo, Schottenheimer, Marty, Knox, Chuck and Roman, Greg.) Our OC has reached his ceiling and needs to take the elevator up a floor or be replaced.

  5. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Niners are equally adept at making turnovers in the 1st quarter and first halves of games.
    In the first Seahag game last year Kap turned the ball over with 3 Ints and 1 fumble. He threw another pick when we were at the Seahag 5 yard line. Took a safety throwing out of our endzone and fumbled on the 40 on a promising drive. These all happened in the first half.
    Not going to win many games against anybody when your QB turns the ball over 4 times and your team has 5 turnovers no matter why kind of offense you run.

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    should be no matter what kind of offense you run.

  7. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The inherent problem with the Nolan/Singletary/Harbaugh style of playing it close and winnning at the end it it MAKES you susceptible to the killer turnover. The GB game aould have been lost but for the dropped pick late.

    Bill Walsh (and plenty of other coaches) was all about dominating early and forcing the other team to adjust to your lead and force them to abandon their style of play in order to catch up. When you have a 24-7 lead going in to the half, you have a greater idea of what the other team is going to do. Throw to come back.

    We keep hearing the rumblings about opening up this offense. If they don’t. they will likely suffer the same fate of the past 3 years. There are no excuses now. They have weapons at WR. The line is solid. However, the defense may not be nearly as dominant as it was in recent memory what with the injuries and loss of talent. Which will be fine if we can score. Better to win 31-24 rather than lose 17-14.

  8. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    WHen the Niners got a turnover on the 1st play of the NFCCG, they went into safe mode. You got for the jugular at that point. Make them pay for the tunover. Don;t wimp out and go for the FG. They never threw into the end zone. Instead it was 2 yard run 4 yard pass, 2 yard run, FG.

    A huge victory for Seattle right there.

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Against the Seahags in the NFCCG the Niners held a 10-0 lead at the 6:01 mark of the first quarter. Niners had the ball at the Sea 41 4th and 1. Vernon Davis gets called for a false start
    and we end up punting instead. In hindsight a devastating penalty
    costing the team from taking a 13-0 or 17-0 lead and taking Lynch out of their gameplan.
    These little things that we seem to forget are game changers.
    They should show Vernon his bonehead error and tell him to shut up and stop his whining more money.

  10. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    My point is, when you have 1st and 10 at the opponent’s 12 off of a turnover, you should get 7. Penalties and stalled drives will happen. But being cautious on the 12 was a strategic failure IMO.

    Shit, the penalty on 3rd and 2 was a killer. Turned into a fumble. Thing is, you get penalties, you get mistakes. Shit happens. Going wimpy on the 12 is a strategic problem.

  11. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The point being, you can point to plenty of different things in hindsight as to what cost them the game. I’m talking about their strategic issues with the passing game and the red zone offense. If they score a TD on that 1st drive, it puts Seattle in a bigger hole early.

  12. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, Skeebs it’s looking more and more like Crabs and VD will be moving on after this season. Iupati may be the lucky one after all.

  13. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    VD’s under contract for two more years.

  14. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think the point is that Bullit is the ultimate Greg Roman defender. With that said, get ready for more Kap negative comments and more Greg Roman defense. It is everybody’s fault except Roman’s, right Bullit?

  15. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    You know it. For every dollar over $15 mil I’ll be expecting big things from Kap and I hope he’s worth every penny or you’ll hear it.
    Even you cannot defend his 7 turnovers in the 2 losses against the Seahags last year.
    You have always shifted the blame as the #2 Kaepernick apologist here to everyone else.
    I just can’t put the blame on Roman entirely for bonehead mistakes on the field. It’s not just the playcalling , it’s the execution that’s at fault.
    Looking for an “escaped goat” is a tradition on Niner blogs.

  16. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullseye! Just as we thought. It’s good that we got that straight. You are the new #1 Kap hater. I am a huge Kap fan and don’t like the low percentage plays they ask him to run. I’m surprised he doesn’t have a much lower TD to int ratio. Most QBs in this system would. If Kap couldn’t run then we would have never been in that Seattle game in the first place.

    I’ll explain our offense. It is slug out out with bunched formations,(called the Sardine Can Offense because formations are so tight you can fit them in a sardine can), then we try to throw in the element of surprise but it rarely surprises anyone because our offense is so deliberate almost everything we do is tipped off. Often we only surprise ourselves when the defense seemingly knows the surprise too. We don’t keep defenses off balance, instead we try to surprise them. The reads are pre-snap, which is good, but the difference with us is if the QB sees something pre snap he must go there. Why do you think the LB knew to be right there when Sherman tipped the ball? He knew what was coming too. That was squarely Greg Roman’s fault because Kap did exactly what he was taught and even made a decent throw but he was taught to throw a 50/50 ball when that wasn’t necessary. Just bad coaching period. There can be no excuses for play calls like that.

    Instead, we should have our pre snap reads give us options instead of telling us where a play must go. But then, that is just too modern a way of thinking for a cave man. We heard former players and coaches tell us last year that if you aren’t the primary read you aren’t getting the ball. If that is good play calling in your view then you and I will just agree to disagree.

  17. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebs, the FO will trade VD before the start of next season if they don’t work out a deal this year. Especially if he holds out of mandatories. They may even do it this year. They won’t let him reach the end of his deal without getting something for him. His deal was front-loaded, and he’ll be easy to trade.

    Again, Bullit, did you like the red zone play calling last year? Especially in the NFCCG? I didn’t. I think this team’s strategy of keeping things close and then winning on the last drive is way too risky. The only difference between Singletary and Harbaugh is Harbaugh won more close ones than Sing did.

    My problem with the offense is they are doing the same thing they did with Alex Smith. The pass plays are all outs and comeback routes. We rarely go downfield or throw timing passes. No slants. Our deep threat is our TE. It’s a low-risk passing game that is very boring. Kappy has the bigger arm by far. But I don’t get why they don’t use his abilities more. Roll him and go deep. Use 3-4 WRs instead of 1-2 WRs.

    With the defense losing some key pieces, it will not be as stout as it was. This team needs to score more to stay ahead of the curve.

    We can all point fingers as to what the problems are, but if we don’t HAVE plays that utilize our talent, how will we know if it works? We won’t. There’s a big difference between strategic problems and mental lapses. Every team makes mistakes in the course of a game. Strategic errors manifest over the course of a season. Which is why Harbaugh took over more of the play calling from Roman ha;fway through the season. At least Harbaugh noticed the problems. It still wasn’t great, but things got better.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    I’m not into labels.
    As a Niner fan I hope for the success of the team and that goes hand in hand with Kap doing well.
    Get over it!

  19. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niners had the ball at the Seahag 15 after the turnover.
    They ran Gore on 1st down for 2 yards, passed to Crabtree on 2nd down for another 2 yards and Kap ran for 4 yds to the 7 on 3rd down.
    Seattle had not given up a first possession score all season (17 games) until the Niners scored their FG.
    I have no problem with the plays called as a broken tackle in any of the 3 plays would have led to a TD.
    Seahags did what they neede to do to stop the Niners in gaining those last 2 yards for a first down.

  20. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- If you aren’t into labels why did you call me a Kap apologist? Either you are or are not into labels, which is it?

  21. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- The reason we don’t effectively throw deep is our QB does not have the time in the pocket. We run the SCO formations which allow the defense to blitz at will.

    What they do is stack the box and run blitz, if it turns out to be a pass they just continue to the QB. By the time he sets up in a 7 step drop he is being greeting by a few pass rushers and has to run for his life. Then the fans blame the O-line when it isn’t their fault. The fault is the play design. Our O-line is out numbered every play and then asked to block more than one defender per person.

    Seattle’s weakness is their O-line and they won the SB. Our strength is our O-line and we can’t seem to block half the time. I blame the play caller and play design for this.

    Use formations that make the defense spread out so to make them declare their intentions. This allows the O-line easier reads. Have the QB read that and know what his options are. Do not let the O-line get out numbered every play. Always try to help the O-line by designing plays where their assignments are not so difficult to read. If you allow a defense to stack the box they can disguise just about everything. That allows them to dictate the terms instead of the offense dictating. Roman is no dictator, he is more of a reactive play caller wit his bag of surprise plays from his cave man days.

  22. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Because in your case the label fits you perfectly.
    Kap will get stripped of the ball and fumble and you’ll blame it on the oline and not even blink.
    If you want to label me call me an interested critic. I’ll praise him with accolades when Kap does well and skewer him when he screws up.
    My first indication you were a Kap apologist was 2 seasons ago when he tossed that ill fated pitch on the read option that resulted in a Ram TD. Yes not one of Greg’s top ten play calls but still it’s a read option that Kap read wrong. It’s still up to the QB to execute the play and he had no business pitching the ball, the proper thing to do was to keep it and get whatever you could. Making the errant pitch was a Matt Schaub pick six brain fart.

  23. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    The Aints just re-signed Jonathan Goodwin.
    He returns to the team he played for before the Niners.

  24. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, your 2:18 post is you in a nutshell. You bemoan labelling but feel justified in doing it.

    Bullit, I’ve been lamenting the formations for 9 years now. Ever since Nolan rolled into town.

  25. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Maiocco predicts the 49ers will get two low compensatory draft picks next year.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/49ers-expected-receive-multiple-compensatory-picks?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo

    Yeah, I know it’s early…But by my reckoning here is where we stand as of now…

    1 – 49ers’ pick
    2 – 49ers’ pick
    3 – 49ers’ pick
    4 – *Choice from Denver (2014 Draft Day trade)
    4 – 49ers’ Choice conditionally traded to Buffalo for WR Stevie Johnson (could become a 3rd)
    5 – 49ers’ pick
    6 – 49ers’ Choice conditionally traded to Jacksonville for QB Blaine Gabbert (could change rounds; condition not known)
    6 – #Compensatory Selection
    7 – *Conditional Choice from Indianapolis (for OLB Cam Johnson; conditions unknown)
    7 – 49ers’ Choice conditionally traded to Miami for OT Jonathan Martin (if Martin makes team)
    7 – #Compensatory Selection

  26. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The 2nd para is for Bergs.

    Bullit, your 1:14 post belies the issue I have. Most teams, given a shot like that, press the issue. Go for it. A broken tackle and they score? That’s true on 80% of the plays from anywhere on the field. It’s ludicrous to think that way. They might as well have taken a knee on every play down there. I’m sick of this red zone offense. It is way too unimaginative.

    Walsh was very big on hitting the other team when they screwed up. Especially in favorable field position. You fumble on the 50, we throw it in the end zone. Going for the throat whenever the opportunity presents itself. Roman/Harbaugh didn’t force the issue. They played it safe and took the 3. Who gives a shit if Seaattle never gave up a TD on the 1st drive? The never gave up the ball that deep in their territory either. The Niners were GIVEN the ball on the 15 and they wimped out. Ooooh, missed by 3 yards. Might as well been 75, right?

  27. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    VD, instead of participating in OTAs, was serving smoothies at his Jamba Juice in SJ.

    http://www.sacbee.com/2014/05/30/6445210/mr-smoothie-why-vernon-davis-might.html

    He sure sounds like he’s going to hold out. As the 3rd highest paid TE at $7.4 mill. What a fool. Click clack your way out the door, skippy.

  28. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- I can argue with you about this for a week, instead I’ll just sum it up. You think Kap is a turnover prone bum and don’t care for him and I think the play calling creates half of his turnovers by forcing him to create too much individually.

    I would rather have a play calling package that allows the O-line to perform better which would allow a more effective running game and time better options for the QB to choose from in the passing game.

    You say it is Kap, I say it is Roman. It is that simple. You give numbers to support since Roman does not actually throw the ball, I give examples of what we do and what we could do better. You can have the last word.

  29. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If I’m Baalke, I’m looking for trade partners. How about you join your used-to-be-relevant ex-teammate Dashon Goldson? He went from being one of the top FSs in the league to a heavilly fined afterthought in one fell swoop. I find it interesting that he chose to do this after the draft. Not that there was a shiotload of TE talent there, but we would have taken one had he raised this issue before it.

    Go for it Vernon. Chase the dollar right to palookaville. And, while we’re here, I’m waiting for the scathing retort by Bullit regarding Crabs and Skeeb’s thread. If I wrote that, Bullit would start regurgitating (love that word) posts from 2010.

  30. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Walsh coached the Niners for 10 years.
    Without cheating and looking them up, can you name me his offensive coordinators?

  31. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    2010??? By your own admission you’ve been bitching for 9 years.
    It’s OK for you to reference 2005 but God forbid if anybody goes back 6 months to make a point.
    So the hypocrisy continues and everyone sees it.

  32. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, I remember Paul Hackett and Mike Holmgren. I don’t recall him having an OC in the beginning – I think Walsh did everything himself until Hackett came in.

  33. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    As for Kap, my gut feeling is that he makes real strides this year. I think his understanding of the offense will only improve, and you’ll see a positive effect on the field. My concern is we could have a defensive letdown that cancels out that progress and more. A lot also rides on guys like Tank and Lemonier coming in this year and making a real substantial contribution.

  34. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Well I looked it up and I was wrong – Walsh never had an OC, he only had Hackett and Holmgren as QB coaches; though presumably they had a lot of input like Wyche before them, they were not OCs. Holmgren became OC only when Walsh left.

  35. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I would have missed that question. I would not have guessed that Walsh did not have any OCs. My answer would have been Wyche, Hackett and Holmgren.

    Steve Young said he believes the Walsh WCO with Walsh running it would have evolved and look like what the Patriots run today. He said the about a year and a half or two and a half years ago. That would be a far cry from the RoBaugh version. IOW, Walsh would have evolved, RoBaugh is still stuck in the 80’s. And since they like to use the power I instead of Walsh’s split back formation, RoBaugh is actually stuck in the 70’s.

  36. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy

    Thought I’d throw a curve ball (tricky).
    I would have guessed at least Sam Wyche.
    In reality Walsh did everything.
    Also to note in 10 years Walsh took the Niners to the NFC Championship Game 4 times.
    It took 3 years to win the first Super Bowl, 3 more years to win the second and another 4 years to win the 3rd.
    That was teams that were stacked because there was no salary cap.

  37. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    It is absolutely amazing that a man who has spent his life coaching football can mess up the Pistol as much as Roman does. He has no idea of the conceptual workings of the read option.

    The read option is a play that relies on reading one player in the lane. If he slashes inside the QB keeps the ball, if he contains the ball is handed off. To accomplish this a formation must be spread out to be able to isolate the option defender. Roman tries to run it out of the bunch formation and it never works. You think! Jeesh. Out of the bunch the defense can stack the box and station a defender to cover either option. One for the QB keep and one for the hand off. Dumb dee dumb dumb dumb!

  38. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Yeah I would not have answered that correctly myself. I was surprised when I looked it up.
    You really have to be a 49er historian to know this.
    Look I agree there’s always room for improvement, and if you’re not getting better, you’re not trying.
    You are missing my point with Kap. I want to see him reach his full potential. You say the offense puts pressure on Kap to compensate for shortcomings in offensive playcalling? The reason he beat out Alex Smith was because he was a more DYNAMIC PLAYMAKER. I would like him to live up to that characterization and expectation.
    Going all in with a huge contract will also put all the pressure on Kap. Hope he’s up for it.
    All Kap has to do is perform at a high level. Simple.

  39. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Niner Talk with some footage of Lattimore making sharp cuts in the OTAs

    http://www.49ers.com/video/videos/Niner-Talk-How-is-Jimmie-Ward/505546dc-3729-480a-be1b-46ed63109958

  40. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If you can’t see that the plays Kappy gets determine the plays he can make, then no one here can help you.

    You ask a question and you have no idea the answer? Nice. The other funny thing is, you think what I said is the same as what you do repeatedly. And you don’t get it!!! How funny is that?

  41. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Do you think if the Niners ran a Chip Kelly style offense, Kappy’s numbers would improve, Bullit? Do you think he’d be a bit more dynamic given the chance? He threw screens and slants at UNR. He threw deep and short and mid-range passes.

    Like I said before, they are running the same offense that they ran with Alex. What is Kappy supposed to do to be more dynamic? When he’s got 2 targets to throw to, the options are limited.

    Limited. Limited. Digest that word and regurgitate it later.

  42. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    We need to bring back word of the day . . .

  43. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    49ers Offense…
    WOTD –

    MORIBUND

  44. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Moribund the Bergermeister:

    http://youtu.be/BpJbebfLmJ0

  45. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Berger is exposing the moribund Greg Roman offense!

  46. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If you like the Chip Kelley offense then you should become an Egos fan.
    The facts are the Egos had home field advantage and lost in the first round of the playoffs last. They barely had 250 yds total offense and 190 yds passing.
    From game 12 on the Niners averaged 344 yds total offense per game avering 26 pts a game and won 8 games in a row.
    Biggest BS straw man to project a player into a different system.
    Fact of the matter is the Niners won 14 games last year.
    If you can’t see the difference in the offense from the Arnaz Battle, Tony Wragge, Moran Norris and Trent Dilfer days and equate the current offense to that one then you are not very observant o say the least.

  47. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I believe and always have believed the game is won and lost on the field by players.
    Much criticism of Roman by the Kaepernick apologists here especially on the first series.
    On the 3rd down play it was a called QB draw for Kap. He had a hole you could drive a truck through. If Kap cuts right he at the very least gets the first down. He cuts left and gets tackled by the LB for a 4 yd gain when he needed 6 yds.
    Also VD doesn’t hold his block long enough and the LB slips it to make the tackle and if you notice Goodwin is tentative as he also could’ve wiped out the would be tackler.
    The proper play was called (they were in a spread formation)
    but the execution was lacking due to a choice made on the field.
    So I believe that Roman called a similar play he never got to call in the Super Bowl because they had to take a time out with play clock expiring. If blocked properly with the correct read it would’ve worked as drawn up. That’s on paper, but sometimes the human element becomes a huge factor.
    http://www.seahawks.com/videos-photos/videos/Sound-FX-Explosive-plays-in-the-NFC-Championship-Game/ccfb2ecd-4a70-40ce-832c-ea9575e72d30

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So the Niners just signed Blake Constanzo clouding the picture
    on who sticks around to play special teams.
    Can the Niners afford to use roster spots for Spillman, Osgood, Ventrone and Costanzo? Competition will be fierce on special teams.

  49. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    There you go again, Bullitt, projecting your pretty little heart out. Read my question.

    IF THE NINERS RAN A CHIP KELLY OFFENSE, DO YOU THINK KAPPY’S NUMBERS WOULD IMPROVE???????????? DO YOU THINK HE’D BE MORE DYNAMIC???

    Sorry I have to talk to you like a child, but when you act like one . . . I’m sorry if you can’t imagine a scenario where Kappy plays in a system like he ran in college. I know it is like comparing Jim Thorpe to Ladanian Tomlinson. Gawwwwd. Get a clue.

    Do I say I like the Chip Kelly offense? No. Do I infer it in ANY way that I want the Niners to run the Kelly offense? No. Of course not. It’s merely a question. One you don’t want to answer, so you regurgitate your usual misrepresentation.

    Let’s look at the stats, eh?

    Foles – 27 TDs 7 INTs, 222 YPG.
    Kappy – 31 TDs 11 INTs, 158 YPG.

    Foles did that in 10 games. Project his numbers out conservatively and he throws 15 more TDs in those 6 games. 42 TDs compared to 31. Less picks. Higher YPG average.

    How do they score all those TDs, Bullitt? By being conservative in the red zone? No. they force the issue. Want to know what’s funny? They ran better than the Niners as well. The #1 rushing offense also was the #9 passing offense. And this was while changing starting QBs and running their new system for the 1st time.

    Watch this year. I’d think Foles YPG goes up to around 250-260. You were pissing all over Chip Kelly early last year, and well, it worked pretty well for the Eagles considering where they came from, and what went on last year with the Vick thrash, Foles rough start, getting hurt, and playing through all that.

    So, Kappy had nothing to do with those wins? The Niners won 14 games, but the QB had nothing to do with it? The same QB you don’t want to pay? Which is it, skippy? Did Kappy play well or didn’t he? You casn’t stand on both sides of that fence. But you are and you do.

  50. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Love that old Peter Gabriel, Burgs. Never saw Genesis or PG on his own for some reason.

    Let’s see here, Bullitt. Your 8:02 post sings the praises of the Niner offense, which I’m assuming includes the QB. Or is that a straw-man as well?

    Your 8:20 post is a condemnation of Kappy and his decision making ability. Which is it? He didn’t make decisions in those 14 wins?

    And, again, why aren’t you attacking Skeebs for his take on Crabtree? If I wrote that, you’d be pulling out posts from 2008.

  51. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    You have a fundamental problem in reading.
    Not to regurgitate a “gotcha” moment.
    Learn to read the correct stats.
    Correct me if I’m wrong but Kap threw 21 TDs last year and not the 31 you credit him with. Those 10 TDs are a ginormous difference.

    If you look at the game against the Raiduhs the Egos were up 49-13 in the 4th quarter and Nick Foles was still throwing the ball trying to run the score up even though he had 7 TDs already. Stats are skewed and it looks good to fanboys. Stuff like that comes back to bite a team.

    Just like the crap that Harbaugh said about PEDs came back to bite him in the ass.
    Then again you are the master of having stuff come back to bite you.

  52. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Hey it was a typo, skippy. And thanks for proving my point even further. Foles put up big numbers. That’s the POINT. Kappy in a more dynamic offense would put up better numbers. Is that hard to comprehend? For some, it is. You credit the offense for winning all those games, yet decry Kappy’s decision-making ability.

    Again, don’t you think the Niners are limiting Kappy? Do you think if ha had more options to throw to, or they went away from telegraphing plays, they might do better? I don’t see a big difference between the passing game under Smith, and under Kappy. The numbers bear this out. see more athletic play from Kappy, but I don’t see much difference in the routes or the reads or the options he has.

    My point is was and will be they need to upgrade the play calling and the offense in general to get over the hump. What have they won playing it this way? They’ve been close, but close ain’t cutting it. This Harbaugh’s 4th year. HE understands that his time is coming to a close if he doesn’t seal the deal soon. Which is why there’s all this talk of 3 WR sets and the like.

    Whether he followes through remains to be seen.

  53. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So the question that none of Kap’s apologists have answered and continue to dodge is in the NFCCG what cost the 49ers the game?
    The 3 crippling turnovers or let’s blame Roman for bad play calls even though they were in a position to win the game with a first and goal with time outs in their pocket?

  54. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Two observations.
    1- I completely disagree with your assessment of the QB draw. If he cuts to the right he is tackled immediately and gets less yards than he actually got.

    2- You say “stats are skewed” but nobody uses them more than you. I’m guessing they are BS when you don’t like the inference and gospel when thy support your theory?

    And a bonus observation: We are not disputing that we win and are a good team. I’m glad you agree with us about that. We want to know why we can’t win a Super Bowl with the best talent in the NFL. I compare it to running an offense that can’t make mistakes because it plays games to conservative and you say it is turnovers. Seems we are saying the same thing and you blame the QB while I blame the coach for his style of play which makes the QB take needless chances to bail out the coach. Thanks for proving my point once again.

  55. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Roman lost the NFC title game. There is your answer. His play calling did not allow us to run the ball except for Kap’s runs. If not for Kap we aren’t even close in the 2nd half. He kept us in the game and then had some bad plays.

    I find it rather convenient how you forget about the plays Kappy made, like 100 yards rushing in the 1st half, to keep Roman from being blown out from the beginning of the ghame.

  56. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    So last season it was Chip Kelly and the Egos.
    And in the year before you were drooling about Megatron and the Lions and how they were unstaoppable. In the year before that it was the Falcons and Roddy White, Julio Jones and how they had the perfect offense.
    In the meantime the Niners consistently win and make it to the NFCCG but you want to fix something that’s not broken.
    You bitch and moan about the offense and always talk about the flavor of the year offense who flame out after the defensive coordinators devise a scheme to stop them.
    Seems to me if the Egos crash and burn this year they’ll be a distant memory just like the Lions and the Falcons.
    So gush away fanboy because I’ve seen this from you on an annual basis.

  57. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    That’s just an excuse and not a rationale reason.
    People only remember what you do in crunch time.
    Scott Norwood, Jackie Smith, Roger Craig and Bill Buckner are remembered for their failures in crunch time.
    You consistently laugh at Tony Romo in at the end of the game and his failures.

    I realize Kap made some amazing plays. But was Kap just doing his job as the QB? Isn’t that what Niner fans expect him to do on a weekly basis?

    If it was Dilfer/Alex Smith/Tony Romo who had 3 turnovers at the end of the game would you cut them the same slack you are giving to Kap?

  58. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Dilfer would not have had 100 yards rushing in the first half to keep us in the game. Keep trying.

  59. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger
    You never know, perhaps Dilfer makes the 2nd and 3rd reads and passes for 200 yds in the first half.
    3 turnovers in the 4th quarter are a cluster(flub) no matter what name is on your jersey and I would say the same if you were #16 or #8.

  60. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Pointing to the 4th quarter failings in one game is cherry picking. The failings in the red zone are a strategic problem that spans seasons. A lot of the strategic blame goes to Harbaugh as well for their inability to get plays into the huddle in a timely manner. Another problem that has spanned many seasons.

    Look at Romo. The poster child for late f***ups. His problem is the Dallas defense. I just like to toss Romo under the bus because NoFear and others get all frothy about it. But you, like many other knee-jerk observationalists, blame the last plays and overlook the fact that the Niners had 1st and 10 on the Seattle 15 after a huge turnover on the 1st play of the game. Score a TD, and Seattle’s on their heels. But no. They wimp out and take the FG. I’d rather have seen them go for it on 4th and 2 down close. Let the defense pin them back if they don’t convert.

    You might as well blame Goodwin (or whoever) for missing a block that led to the sack/fumble. Or the ref for calling the penalty. You can point to plays and penalties til the cows come home, but I prefer to look at the bigger picture and their stragegic problems. Red zone offense and lack of an imaginitive passing game. Ther coaching staff needs to put plays together that utilize Kappy’s strengths, not limit him to sideline passes and the occasional scramble.

  61. winderNo Gravatar says:

    It’s pretty obvious several time a game that play calling and execution play a big part in our self destruction. A well oiled machine doesn’t need every second of a clock to finally get the play in motion and I believe in that rush execution is the most likely reason for lack of sucess, but why did we get to that point in the first place.

  62. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Let’s recap the three turnovers you keep incessantly ranting about.
    1 – Kap goes back to throw, the play design had no one open so he tries to buy a little time, moves to his left and Avril beat the RT like he wasn’t even there. He blindsides Kap from the other side of the field and strips him just as Kap is about to throw. If the play design gets a receiver open then that never happens. Poor play design. Fault, Roman and Davis the RT could have slowed down Cliff Avril at least a little. But Avril has made that same play many times against other teams so the play caller should be cognizant of that possibility. Maybe we also blame the QB for not having eyes in the back of his head. If we want to keep calling that play we need a QB with 4 eyes, two in front and two in back. Either that or get an OC who knows how to call plays against tough defenses.

    2. Kap makes a bad throw and Chanceller pics it. Fault, Kap. On the next series he makes the same throw and nails it.

    3. Kap does exactly what the coach wants him to do with the pre snap read. Harbaugh even says so after the game. The throw was good but Sherman makes a fantastic play. Since the defenses also know our pre snap tendencies the LB was right there to catch the tip. No reason to coach your QB to make that play in the that situation, too risky. Fault, RoBaugh.

    I noticed you talking about the 10 wins in a row. Would you please enlighten me of who our QB was during that winning streak?

  63. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I do not know why my computer does not store my info all the time. Jeesh. This gravatar looks like Klu Klux Bullit trying to hang our QB for carrying out a bad game plan.

  64. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Wider- That is the genius that is Greg Roman who loves to call two plays in the huddle so that we can burn two or three time outs per game when we can’t get the play off in time. Just more for Bullit to love about him.

  65. winderNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, I agree but wonder if Harbaugh isn’t a little more involved with all this.

  66. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Winder- If it is Greg Roman then it is Harbaugh. I really like the way Harbaugh coaches QBs up. He does a great job. Problem is his play calling. For now I’m all over Roman. If we can ever get the Bullit idol out of here we could see if the play calling changes. If it doesn’t, I want Harbaugh out next. It is about the SB wins, not the Schembechler emulations. As good as the teams Bo had he never won a championship. See play calling on offense; and related, the Sardine Can Offense, (SCO).

  67. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    The buck stops with Harbaugh certainly. And we discovered this offseason that Harbaugh took a more active role in the play calling. It still didn’t loosen things up as muich as I hoped, and the red zone offense is still a problem, as well as play clock management, but these are things they’ve specifically brought up this offseason.

    Whether it’s simply lip service or not remains to be seen.

    I’m of a mind that Harbaugh understands that he has to pull out all the stops THIS season. His defense isn’t getting better as of now. His offense has the tools, so he will be forced to open up the passing game.

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Obviously some people here can’t remember the 3 coaches we had before Harbaugh.
    Yeah we had it so good for 10 years.
    I specifically remember Berger predicting 7 wins when Harbaugh came aboard.
    If at the start of Harbaugh’s coaching stint here if you told
    Berger the Niners would make it to the Super Bowl within 3 seasons I’m sure he would have been ecstatic and taken it unconditionally. I’m certain if you told him the Niners would be in the playoffs within 2 seasons he’d be a happy guy. Give him a taste and he’s demanding instant gratification like Super Bowls are entitlements and are easy to come by.
    Yeah let’s turn on Harbaugh cuz we can do so much better with a different coach.
    Look at the Pats. It’s been 10 years since they’ve won a Super Bowl. They’ve stuck with Belicheat because they know he gives them their best shot at winning another.

    It’s a shame that some can’t appreciate how far the Niners have come and give the credit to the right people.

  69. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Exactly!!! Super Bowl win or bust! The window is open now. You can wait for a couple of more years while the window shuts, I want it now because you never know when you will get another roster like this. This roster is built for championships, do we have the right coach? Bullit just wants to be relevant, I want a championship, nothing else matters when the roster is this talented.

    I never expected Erickson, Nolan or Singletary to win a SB, they never had the talent to do that. Harbaugh does.

  70. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Oh, of course you determine the right people to give credit to, right Bullit?? It sure ain’t the quarterback, eh? It is to laugh. I picked the Niners to go 9-7 and reach the playoffs in 2011. With the 13-3 record and NFCCG, the bar was set. Why? Because, obviously they had a team with a lot of talent, and it was being misused by the previous regime.

    Something I related about a thousand times.

    2 years later, and what? Gee, I hope we reach the playoffs? Sorry, no. Ask anyone on the team and they’ll tell you the same thing.

    The point is, it is HARD to stay on top in this league. The window isn’t propped open. It can slam shut in a hurry. An injury here or there, and all of a sudden you go from the NFCCG to the cellar, like the Falcons did. Or the Super Bowl to watching the playoff next year a la Baltimore.

  71. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Actually when you make predictions on team record you usually give 3 or 4 versions. It must really be important for you to be right. That’s pretty funny.

    And if you want me to I can search for your post when we had the discussion about Kap and you said since we gave Alex Smith time we ought to allow another 2 years for Kap to “learn” to be the QB. Another flip flop from you?

  72. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Just for grins and to illustrate

    unca chuckNo Gravatar says:

    August 29, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    6-10, Skeebs. New coaches. New philosophy. A lot of new players. More of a remake didn’t happen due to the fact that there was a lockout. With cuts coming, there may be more new starters. But whatever. Call it what? A playoff push?
    .
    In other words, Skeebs, wait til the year after next.
    ===
    Sorry but I don’t see Chuck saying 9-7 and making the playoffs.
    I see Chuck predicting playoffs in 2013.
    Please correct me if I’m wrong.

  73. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Skeebers- Do you have the predictions we all had for Harbaugh’s first year? If I predicted 7 wins then so be it, it just seems I would have predicted more. I do remember wondering how good Alex Smith would be with a coach who actually understands the QB position instead of Singletary and Nolan. I thought he would be much better and didn’t proclaim him a good QB until sometime in the middle of the season. That’s about when the Alex haters all ran off to Unca’s site.

  74. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Yeah, that’s right. Harbaugh becomes coach and we had the strike/lock out. It was normal to figure that to be a problem for a new system. That could lead one to say 7 wins. If that is what I said then I just say, sometimes it is good to be wrong!

  75. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Steve Young says Kap needs to learn to be more of a pocket passer. Steve would know, he had the same problem. Difference is Young had Walsh and Shanahan to design his progressions. That is a far cry than having Roman designing the progressions. With Walsh and Shanahan you look for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd reads. With Roman you look for your first read and then say high to the DE who is sacking you. The SCO allows for heavy disguised blitzing. Basically a normal pocket passer would get pulverized in a Greg Roman offense. I have always wanted my QB to go through his progressions, with a Roman system I say look to your first, if it isn’t there, run for your life. Kap is special. Alex would run for his life, Kap runs for yards. This not a luxury but a necessity in a Greg Roman offense.

  76. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Per your request
    During that 8 game streak 213 yds passing per game and 12 TDs for Kap

  77. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    You predicted 7-9, Berg. Chuck predicted 6-10 and 8-8.

  78. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Gotta love Unca covering two predictions. Sure makes it easier to be right!

  79. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    That’s pretty funny coming from you, Bergs. Fence-straddler extraordinnaire.

    I made my 8-8 call before the season started. Get it, corksoaker?

  80. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Explain “fence sitter extraordinaire”? I sat on the fence about Alex because his coaching was so bad I could not tell if was a good QB or a bad QB. Once he had a decent coach it was an easy read. Was there something else?

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Well Berger, when I was taking a patient approach with Alex following the shoulder injury etc, I somehow got labeled as an Alex hater, once I too decided he had reached his ceiling in SF.

    As fans, being fickle comes with the territory I guess.

  82. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    “Kap does exactly what the coach wants him to do with the pre snap read. Harbaugh even says so after the game. The throw was good but Sherman makes a fantastic play. Since the defenses also know our pre snap tendencies the LB was right there to catch the tip. No reason to coach your QB to make that play in the that situation, too risky. Fault, RoBaugh.”

    Wrong, wrong, wrong! I don’t care how you try to sugar coat this but that was not a good throw. Why? Because Crabtree never touched the ball. He never had a chance because the ball was underthrown. Sherman made a great play but Crabtree has to at least get a hand on the ball to have a chance. That was a horrible pass and to say the throw was good just shows your mindset. You should listen to Kap as he manned up and took responsibility which is a step in improving and growing.
    Sorry, I’m just not buying looking to scapegoat the coaches when this was purely about execution of the play.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcJu9kx-b1A

  83. rtfireflyNo Gravatar says:

    I hated Alexcuse from the time certain unnamed people were blaming all his fumbles in football games on the football. No fence straddler me! Lucky Alex didn’t take up tiddlywinks instead.

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s a play that will haunt me for a long time Bullit.
    Had Kaep not decided to lock onto Crabtree at the pre-snap, he had Kendall underneath when the LB bailed to help Dick.

    I actually think either he, or Patton, could have made a decent gain, had Kaep bothered to look beyond Crabtree.

  85. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Most of us have seen this play too many times. What Harbaugh said after the game is what he does in his usual fashion to defend his players. He never throws them under the bus so I would take what was said with a grain of salt.
    Truth be told in hindsight we know this. A presnap read does not preclude the QB from looking off the defense. We know defenses follow a QB’s eyes. You are correct that if Kap looks left it locks down Malcolm Smith to cover Hunter. Malcolm Smith was only trailing the play because Kap locked onto crabtree and stared him down the moment he got the snap.
    You can’t call it a good throw when Crabtree has zero chance of catching the ball. A 50/50 ball would be Crabtree having one hand on a jump ball. The still photo shows Dicky making a helluva play on the ball. I just can’t call that a good throw.
    Playcall was not the issue. It was the execution of the play.

  86. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- You are so wrong I have to question if you even believe what you are saying. But we do know you will go on forever, bring up quotes from years ago to try to act as if you are the expert, even when you are wrong. It would be nice if you would just try to explain something in your own words instead of always using a quote here and a quote there and any statistics that back your theory while telling any statistics that don’t back what you are saying are skewed.

    I will try to communicate this one more time. I doubt you will understand but I will try.

    The play call is what was bad. Kap should have not called for the fade pattern. Just too risky. Look at the result if you want proof. Probably no other corner makes that play with a ball that well thrown, but Sherman made the play, give him some credit. Kap did what he is coached to do. If you are ordering parts at work and the boss tells you to order something, do you order something else. I would highly doubt that. Collin was coached to run that play if he sees a certain pre snap read. He even said after the game if he saw that again he would run it again. Who told him to that? His coaches, who are is bosses, told him to do that. That is why it is on the coaches. They taught him to try a risky play because he saw something pre snap. You do what the boss tells you to do or get fired. What is it about that that you don’t understand. Was he supposed to be recalcitrant and rogue and call something different? Maybe with a raise and this SB experience he will, but he was situation in the SB to do as the boss told him to do. The fault on that play rides squarely on the coaching staff. It was the wrong call. Period, end of story.

    Collin threw a TD earlier in the game that was very close to being picked. In a Greg Roman offense you have to make those throws. I think Roman asks too much from his QB. Fans did not like Alex Smith because he was reluctant to throw those risky throws and now that Kap does he is going to have some turnovers along with the big gains. You have to live with that if you want Greg Roman designing your offense. Either that or complain about the QB, Alex Smith, who doesn’t try those throws. The reason Kap beat out Alex is Kap will go for far more big plays than Alex. But it comes with turnovers. You need to just understand the paradigm of our offense. We are a bunch formation ’70s offense that tries for the big play when they think they have created a mismatch. A mismatch in our passing game means Roman believes he has a receiver that can beat a defender in a 50/50 match-up. In my opinion this is very risky but somehow Kap usually makes it work.

    The system we run is opposed to what I would like to see which is an offense that keeps the defense off balance by getting the playmakers open in space and not asking the QB to always have to make so many risky throws. I would rather see a marginal WR open in space for an easy throw than Crabtree being covered and asked to somehow come down with the ball, like the play in the Super Bowl where Kap did as told and threw a pick on a well thrown ball. Sherman said after the game he knew that play was coming by reading Crabtree’s body language. He did not read Kap’s eyes, he read Crabtree. Where does Crabtree come into this equation. Do you think he could sell the route better? The play the coach called has only one read so there was no looking anybody off, especially when Seattle knew our pre snap read before Kap even had the ball in his hands. No look off would have sold the LB. My guess is they showed exactly that defense so we would run that play. I would bet that is what happened. Roman ran the play Seattle wanted us to run because what they really did was read Roman’s tendencies. Roman is not hard read. His offense is as deliberate as there is. Back in the ’70s it was good offense, today it is passé. Defenses know what is coming.

  87. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Of course what Harbaugh said after the game was meaningless because it doesn’t support your theory.

    You are attacking the actual play. You can do that but root of the problem is we would run the same play again if the same situation came up again. At what point should the coaching staff call for different strategy? My strategy is to replace Roman so we can run a different play next time.

  88. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    Berger is right IMO that the Squawks D set up the Niner O to run the last play in the NFCCG that they did, the fade to Crabs. That was my opinion at the time, they knew Romans tendencies and that Kap would do as he was taught and that he would look for his most trusted receiver if the D look he saw showed that to be the favorable matchup. I have no evidence of that, it’s conjecture, but that is my considered opinion, the Squawks braintrust set up the Niner braintrust and it paid off for them by a fingertip.

  89. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    No use trying to make any point with you on this.
    I get it, you hold Kaepernick blameless and choose to point the finger at everyone else but him. Nothing but a bunch of excuses.
    The way you defend Kap against any legitimate criticism makes me think you must be his agent.

  90. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Look at my observations fro 10:28 yesterday. On one of them I squarely put the blame on Kap for a terrible throw that was picked off. There are a lot of areas Kap needs to improve but that play in the SB last year was an automatic call by the coaching staff. I did not like the play call and that is what I am saying.

    I am hoping that as Kap gets a new deal and more experience he will call off bad calls like that. Problem is until he gets an offense that is more balanced he will only have so many options, like calling two plays in the huddle, choosing one at the line of scrimmage and thinking more about getting the play off in time instead of pre snap options.

  91. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    What Harbaugh said after that play was exactly true. Sorry you can’t discern the difference between misinformation, disinformation, and facts. Like the breathless bullshit you ‘reported’ about the Niners trading up to the 5th pick, and the report that Harbaugh gave on Nick Fales. One was utter speculation and the other was Harbaugh giving an opinion. You couldn’t decipher which was what.

    The play to Crabs was a pre-snap read. Based on the coverage Kappy saw, the play was designed to go to Crabs.

    These are the facts.

    Was it a great play by Sherman? Yes. Was I happy with the play? No. Is Kappy at fault? Yes. BUT so is the coaching staff. These pre-snap reads are designed to go to the primary guy. Which to me dictates why you see a lot of forced passes on many of the passing plays. Kappy also doesn’t check down near as much as Alex did. Was that a product of the shitty WRs not able to get open on 2nd reads? Sure. There’s truth to that. Maily because Smith had a lot of success checking down and not risking the turnover. But Smith said last year that the pass plays were overly structured as to stifle improvisation short of just giving up and scrambling.

    What Kappy has to understand is that play HAS to be thrown either incomplete, or for the score. He tried to make the perfect pass when a perfect pass wasn’t needed at the time. It was 1st down, and they had time to run 4 plays. When the play develops, Kappy doesn’t look at VD, Boldin, or Patton. He’s been taught to go with the pre-snap read. If the coaches don’t think that he can scan the field on a play like that, then they have problems. But it is incumbent on the coaches to teach him that he can go somehwere else with the pass, or simply thrpow it away. They have to give up control to Kappy to adjust on the fly and make his own reads as the plays develop. Not have him be tied to the pre-snap read.

  92. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    A very telling thing that came out of the sound bites that you heard from that game is Sherman telling Chancellor that they are going to challenge him at the end of the game. They woulkd run a play directed at him in one-on-one coverage for a score.

    As far as cthe coaching goes, they could be telling Kappy NOT to check down as much as Smith did. No one knows what goes on in the coahing around Kappy’s development. But I saew him make many many plays in college where he read through progressions, threw timing passes, and threw screens. He’s not being asked to do these things as of now.

    And, again, SOME of this can be attrributed to the fact that the Niners were decimated at the WR position for most of the season. But as of now, the WRs are solid, and the passing game is expected to take off. It is on the COACHES to design a MUCH more robust passing game, and not run these very limiting 1-2 WR sets that pretty much guarantee no one gets open.

  93. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    12th man- I have no doubt that you would have picked upon how Petey set RoBaugh up for that play. I’m not saying that is what happened but I would sure put odds at better than 50% that Petey outsmarted our offensive coaches and did set that play up. Even Sherman talked about it during the game. Roman is not a strategist as much as he is an historian, much like the typical blogger. That is why he uses historical knowledge to call his plays and design his offense.

    If we want to run the offense similar to what we do, the guy we should keep our eye on is the OC at USC, Helton. He ran the same offense as Kiffen and made it work great with minor changes and better play calling. Let’s see if he can repeat that this year. If he does he will be a hot commodity.

    Kiffen ran basically a very similar offense that Roman runs. It was very sardine can confined. Helton spacad the splits and spread the formations just a little, but not much. He also rotated the players more. All of a sudden with a little room to operate the offense worked. I’m guessing with an off season to work with he’ll apply a bit more spread modernization this year while maintaining the USC running game.

  94. winderNo Gravatar says:

    bullit- concerning your 3:24pm post. I doubt there is anyone here who is not totally grateful for Jed bringing in Harbaugh and crew. I know I am. 49er football is plenty fun again. I just see us being out-coached in the big games and since it is a team effort all are involved. Coaches are not responsible for fumbles(williams) but they are responsible for play calling and that is where we need to improve. I want to see Harbaugh and company in SF for a very long time.

  95. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Minus Roman . . .

  96. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “49ers extend Colin Kaepernick through 2020.”

  97. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “6-year extension worth over $100 million.”

  98. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “It’s a 6-year extension worth up to $126M with $60M guaranteed.”

  99. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Doesn’t make a lot of sense to extend the guy who makes throws that Roman doesn’t design and the HC orders him not to make.

    Blinders are funny about letting one see things clearly.

  100. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    It makes less sense to start over, NoFear.

  101. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Wow! Over 20 mil per yr is too much. Let’s see how it is structured.

  102. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    IMO, Kap did exactly what the coaches told him to do and that was the problem. But then a player starting for only his first full year as a starter would always do that. With the leverage of the new contract in hand maybe he’ll get some confidence to call some of his own plays. He sure doesn’t have to worry about not getting paid anymore.

  103. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    It’s an extension of six years, meaning it’s a seven year deal, or about $18 mil a year.

  104. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, that’s the deal, Bergs. He was doing more advanced shit at UNR than he’s being asked to do here. Are they teaching him to go strictly first-read? It sure looked like it on that last play.

  105. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    A fade is not only 1st read, it is the only read. There are no other options when a fade is called.

  106. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Of course, Lowell Cohn asks the dunce cap question at the press conference.

  107. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    When asked at his press conference what he needs to improve on, Kap said going through his progressions.
    La Canfora said the guaranteed money is structured as “rolling guarantees” which isn’t set in stone.

  108. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    This is exactly what Kap said (was just posted)
    “Progressions, getting though reads, making better decisions in certain situations – those are always things you’re looking to improve,” he said.”

    On topic to the discussion on this blog.

  109. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Now if we can just get Greg Roman to work on his play design progressions. At least our QB has the right attitude. One down, one to go.

  110. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Are you trying to prove some unknown point, Bullitt? Or just being your usual redundant self?

    What’s Kappy going you say? “I wish we would use more WRs in these various pass plays”?

    Duh, Bergs. That’s what I said. Pre-snap read is the one and only option.

  111. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    If he’s not being coached to go through his options on half the pass plays and is only going with the pre-snap read, then we’ll get uneven results. For the next 6 years.

  112. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    It’s called a quote.
    I didn’t say it, Kap did.
    There you go again, you need remedial reading comprehension classes in a ginormous way.

  113. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    One thing that needs definite work on is the hurry up two minute offense.
    There were times last year when they were still going into a huddle when behind and the clock was ticking. Those huddles cost 15-20 seconds.
    Also when you’re trying to beat the clock it’s not necessary to
    have a 6 second snap count when the clock is running.
    Things that need work on and need to be ironed out.

  114. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, you said it twice, skippy. In rapid-fire succession. I just wondered why you felt the overarching need to post a mundane quote 2 times in 6 minutes.

    Gee, speaking of beating a dead horse, I’ve only brought up clock management, oh, 800 times in the past 4 months.

    Way to catch on, skippy. Your comprehension skills may be fine, but your retention skills ain’t.

  115. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, I wouldn’t say FINE. Adequate? Passable?

    How about remedial? There’s your word of the day, Bergs.

  116. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    See Chuck it is all about your reading comprehension skills.

    At 3:22 I merely mentioned what I heard him say.
    At 3:28 I shared Kap’s direct quote which contained much more info.

    If you can’t distinguish between the 2 then it is truly sad.

  117. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Greg Roman understands remedial 1970s offense. Any comprehension of any kind of theories that don’t include formations that fit into a sardine can must be questioned.

  118. 12th manNo Gravatar says:

    A red letter day Berger, we found something we agree on. Very happy to see Kap rewarded and on board for the long haul. His potential is off the charts IMO. I would not trade him for any other QB in the league except maybe Andrew Luck and that’s a toss up.

  119. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kap is a man of his word and I give all the props to Kap for him honoring what he said.

    Adam Schefter ESPN has tweeted this
    “Colin Kaepernick specifically requested his deal allow 49ers flexibility to negotiate extensions with players such as WR Michael Crabtree.”

    Niner nation has also a signing bonus of $12 mil
    “Adam Schefter is now reporting the deal includes a signing bonus of “only” $12 million. Normally, signing bonuses for big quarterback deals are a lot bigger. It will be interesting to now see what kind of other guarantees his deal includes, and when exactly some of these guarantees actually kick in.

    Given that this deal is an extension, it would seem that the $12 million prorationg ($2.4 million per year) is the only addition to this year’s cap figure. Kap was looking at a $1.6 million cap hit because of $973,766 in base salary, $556,691 in prorated bonus money, and $100,000 in workout bonus. Add in the $2.4 million and he is potentially looking at a 2014 cap figure of $4,030,457.

    It is important to note this is all based on this early reporting. There might be other money impacting 2014, but this is based on what we’ve heard so far.”
    ====
    Not often that someone goes out of their way to make it possible to sign your buddy. Now the ball is in Crabtree’s court.

    Sorry Vernon but Kap didn’t mention giving you anything.

  120. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    VD’s making his own bed. He’s got 2 years on his deal, so nothing happens this year. He ain’t going to miss camp now, unless he’s mentally deranged. All he does is hurt himself and throw a wrench in the team’s progress.

  121. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Maiocco said this about Vernon Davis
    “One source said Mangini told his group of tight ends that this is an opportune time for them to make an impression because it might be awhile before Davis reports to the team.”

  122. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Details of Kap’s contract are emerging from Maiocco who is quoting PFT. Guarantees all have provisions. Only fully guaranteed amount is the $12 mil signing bonus. Kap has to buy the Niners an insurance policy in case he is diabled long term.
    Not a cut and dry contract with de-escalators and important dates. (Kap’s agent better be on top of those dates on a lesson learned from Tarell Brown)
    http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/pft-kaepernicks-mega-deal-actually-has-little-risk-49ers

  123. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    correction diabled = DISABLED

  124. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Looks like Kap signed a contract that is good for the team. Just another reason to like him even more!

  125. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Kap ran a more sophisticated offense in college than he runs in the pros. Let’s see if we can get Roman up to speed to match his QBs ability to run more offense. Somebody let him know the Bo Schembechler offense doesn’t work these days.

  126. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    And so it goes…
    Your efforts on your anti-Roman campaign have been rewarded.
    Thank God for small victories. baby steps

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11031941/nfl-take-one-year-hiatus-roman-numerals-super-bowl-50

  127. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    re your 5:11 post from yesterday
    Again with the reading problems?
    It appears when you post a comment it’s always “Ready, Fire, Aim”.
    About my comments on the clock, you should read rather than assume.
    My comments were about the no huddle and the hurry up.
    Again show me where you have discussed this at all?
    Your non response will be the usual indicator and confirmation
    to your lack of understanding.
    Just a suggestion, you don’t need to take potshots at everything I post.

  128. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    If you could like Kap any more than you might have been hiding under the bed in that Florida hotel room when Kap was allegedly with “Jesus” or whatever her name was.
    That’s the reason for the prolonged investigation, they’re trying to figure out who the 4th guy was.

  129. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I suppose because of Alex Smith the checkdown became a bad thing when in actuality it is a key component and staple of the WCO.
    There is nothing wrong with checking down to your RB when they take away your first and second reads.
    It is better than taking a sack and is preferred to having kap run for 3-5 yards but taking a hard hit.
    In addition to the WRs and TEs it’s time to reincorporate the RBs into the passing game.
    Gore, Hunter, Lattimore, Hyde and Miller. Plenty of capable targets.

  130. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I never had a problem with Alex checking down. I thought it was smarter than throwing an int or taking a sack. When running a Sigletary/Raye offense it is a wise move, and often the only option. At least a check down was usually available in that offense. In a Roman offense the check down isn’t even always available. And when available, it is often away form where the QB can easily get the ball to him.

  131. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right. Checkdowns to Gore dropped dramtically when Harbaugh got here. Gore’s lowest total under Nolan/tary was 43 receptions. His high under Robaugh is 28. For good or ill. The thing is, too many checkdowns and defenses don’t honor your deep game. When Gore is catching more than your WRs, safeties start crowduing the line. Hence the propensity (especially in the Alex years) to stall in the red zone.

    A single-option, no checkdown offense does not lend itself to big plays. The came to pass when we had no WRs that could get open, and VD/Boldin were doubled. Think the 1st Carolina game. And most of the middle of last season.

    Well, we know who the chick was, Bullit. Keep chasing your tail.

  132. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Remember this post?

    “And BTW, who here thinks the draft gets moved back to April due to the firestorm around moving it to May.

    Beuller . . . Beuller . . . Beuller?”

    ===
    Stay tuned …

  133. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

  134. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Ooooh. Keeping the draft safe for humanity.

    Point to this endlessly as a sign of your vast knowledge. Or something.

    God, what a freak you are. Sarah Palin Jr.

    Gotcha!!

2019 Schedule
9-8: W 49ers 31, Buccaneers 17
9-15: W 49ers 41,Bengals 17
9-22: W 49ers 24, Steelers 20
9-29: BYE

10-7: W 49ers 31, Browns 3
10-13: W 49ers 20, Rams 7
10-20: W 49ers 9, Washington 0
10-27: W 49ers 51, Panthers 13
10-31: W 49ers 28, Cardinals 25

11-11: L Seahawks 27, 49ers 24
11-17: W 49ers 36, Cardinals 26
11-24: W 49ers 37, Packers 8

12-1: L Ravens 20, 49ers 17
12-8: W 49ers 48, Saints 46
12-15: L Falcons 29, 49ers 22
12-21 or 12-22: vs. Los Angeles Rams
12-29: @ Seattle Seahawks, 1:25pm

2019 Draft Class
1. DE Nick Bosa, Ohio State
2. WR Deebo Samuel, South Carolina
3. WR Jalen Hurd, Baylor
4. P Mitch Wishnowsky, Utah
5. LB Dre Greenlaw, Arkansas
6. TE Kaden Smith, Stanford
6. OT Justin Skule, Vanderbilt
6. DB Tim Harris, Virginia
 
2019 Prognostications

Closest to the Pin:
   Bakkentom: 10-6
   Bullit: 10-6

Grumpy: 9-7
Skeebers: 8-8
Mr Fletch: 7-9
NJ49er: 7-9
Winder: 7-9

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