Orlando Gazette

49ers HC Jim Harbaugh says Frank Gore has three more good years left in his tank. He also says the team needs a 3rd WR who can get open and make plays. If this site endorsed sarcasm, we might reply, “Huh?” and “Duh.”

Harbaugh also said last year’s mid-season offensive ineptitude wasn’t QB Colin Kaepernick’s fault, it was because the 3rd WRs could get open. Actually, Jim has a memory hiccup on this matter. He forgot Michael Crabtree wasn’t around then and neither the 2nd nor 3rd guys could get open.

Of course, we blogsters figured this out when it was happening, with two divergent further speculations. One that Kaepernick didn’t look hard enough for anybody but the first read in a passing play, and two that OC Greg Roman was dialing up some stinky play calls.

The two guys primarily heaved under the bus for Failure to Get Open were Kyle Williams, abruptly traded to Kansas City during last season, and Jon Baldwin, still on the roster but not likely to remain so by the beginning of the 2014 season.

None of these items was anything but old news, so it was surprising that the big three beat writers managed to convince their newspapers to pay for a trip to Orlando to attend the owners’ meeting from whence the old news was dispensed. But there they were surrounding Harbaugh at the table set up for him during the NFC coaches speak to the press day. Barrows on his left, with Maiocco and Kawakami on his right.

Why these three would make the cross country trip is easy to guess. The Ritz-Carlton in Orlando is a super swank joint with its own lush golf course that would not normally cater to scruffy lowbrows like beat reporters — or to fashion lowlifes like Harbaugh, who has taken anal wardrobe wear to the outskirts and beyond of Bill Belichick’s Hoodieville. It must have made the hotel owners cringe to see the likes of these fellows wandering the halls of their establishment.

The NFL owners did manage to squeeze in five rule changes for the coming year, among them extending the uprights five feet higher, disallowing the kind of offensive line blocks that sent Ian Williams to IR last year, and attempting to wipe the egg off their face by allowing fumble recoveries to be reviewable, such as they weren’t when NaVorro Bowman made a TD saving one in the NFC Championship game. Why all plays aren’t reviewable is still a mystery of the universe, since coaches only have two or at most three challenges they can use during the course of a game. The idea that games would be slowed down by constant replay reviews is complete bunk.

At any rate, the offseason crawls along through another week, and April beckons, bringing the Draft into view on the horizon.




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  1. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh did say “A real good scheme evaluation, I think, is what’s next for us as coaches.” He alluded to the fact that they need to evolve. You think? I believe it has been mentioned here that our current offense is from the cave man days. Evolution has occurred since that era except with our offensive scheme. Here is the article from Barrows:

    http://www.sacbee.com/2014/03/26/6271488/harbaugh-looks-to-upgrade-49ers.html

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Middlecoff is telling a Michael Vick story that Andy Reid gave Michael Vick a DVD with upcoming opponent game footage to study.
    Next day Reid asked Vick how was it and Vick said he learned a lot.
    Reid had given Vick a blank DVD with nothing on it.
    That’s how you find out how dedicated and hard working a QB is.
    FYI Middlecoff was a Ego’s Personnel guy now a radio host on 95.7

  3. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right, Bergs. Better late than $%#^$#ing never.

    Tell ya one thing, this line needs to get better at pass protection if that’s the way they want to shift things.

  4. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wouldn’t be surprised to see a guard in round 2 or 3.

  5. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The line would block better if the scheme wasn’t always getting them outnumbered. It starts with better play calling.

  6. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    To paraphrase Lord Tyrion in S4 of GoT: If you want better play calling, you’ve come to the wrong place.

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Eddie D hasn’t ruled out on owning another NFL team per Mike Silver and NFL Network.
    With the passing of Ralph Wilson (RIP) the Bills will be on the market. Eddie always spent the money
    http://tinyurl.com/lfbhx7l

  8. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Spending money is the easy part. Just ask Jerry Jerk-off. Eddie D was a great owner, but when Walsh left the building, so went most of the success. Similar to Jarry losing Jimmy Johnson. The killer was when Dwight Clark said Walsh’s ‘time had passed’ as a talent evaluator.

    “I’ve done a lot of research on the draft,” Clark told the Santa Rosa Press Democrat after the 1991 season. “I don’t have anything against Bill. I’m just not convinced he’s the greatest personnel man. I don’t believe he was the guru everybody says he was.” He drafted you, moron.

    In Clark’s 6 year tenure as the talent guy (’93 to ’98), the only notable draft picks were Stubblefield, Bryant Young, and Terrell Owens. Remember Israel Ifeayni? Jim Drunkenmiller? Nice job, Dwight. Had to pass on Jake Plummer because ‘that’s what Bill would have done.’

    Policy was right there with him holding the knife. Walsh went back to Stanford. Clark and Policy moved on to ruin the newly reformed Cleveland Browns.

  9. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    FYI I hadn’t seen this, mostly about 2012 season but gives you an idea about Niner D
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS9Gt5w6pKQ

  10. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    FYI 2013 Season in Review, Good stuff!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdaJvNTu8ho

  11. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, I setup a GoT fantasy baseball league over at ESPN. You and everyone else here is welcomed to join. The LIVE draft is tomorrow at 8:30 PM PT. It’s open to the public so it could fill up at anytime now.

    League: Game of Thrones Fans
    Motto: King Joffrey throws like a girl.

  12. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Former President Bush and First Lady Barbara even attended Johnny Football’s pro day. What other QB can say that? Here’s what Jon Gruden had to say on his QB Camp session with Johnny — “Steve Young is who I see when I watch Johnny Manziel’s tape. Lot of common ground: size, speed, playmaking ability & upside.”

    Love me some Johnny Football. He’ll win a SB before Jimbo.

  13. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Johnny Football will follow the Tim Tebow path of least resistance and be out of the league in 4 years.

  14. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    He’s a latter day Art Schlister.

  15. robNo Gravatar says:

    manziel and young are the same size ? maybe chuckie saw one on tv and the other in person and thought … hey they’re pretty close !

  16. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Desean Jackson cut by the Eagles.

  17. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    “LAPD tells @njdotcom they have linked two homicides since 2010 to gang associates of Jackson.”

  18. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    And this is the guy Kaepernick is alledgedly friends with? Gulp.

  19. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Supposedly Philly has known about this for months looking for a sucker to unload him on.
    The Chiefs and Andy Reid probably know about the details and that’s why they didn’t bite.
    Anquan Boldin was a gift but asking for something 2 years in a row is wishful thinking.
    Chatter on the radio is the key here is DSJ’s house was burglarized and hundreds of thousands of cash was in his safe along with 2 handguns. It’s the handguns ballistics that LAPD is interested in.
    DSJ might well be innocent but the Egos thought there was enough problems to release him so we’ll see who takes him on but I guarantee it won’t be the Niners.

  20. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Social media will probably undercut DSJ’s denials to gang ties.
    Why because a guy arrested for a gang murder is a buddy of DSJ’s and a rapper on his record label.
    In fact after his arrest DSJ still posted pictures of the two being very chummy on Instagram Not the smartest thing to do when you’re denying you know him but he even posted a caption to free his friend.
    http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/03/eagles_desean_jackson_off-the-field_troubles.html

    I do understand the dynamic that you don’t turn your back on friends who get in trouble. BUT, and that’s a big but when you are in the public limelight and your huge contract depends on discretion it’s probably best to not go public and you can help him by giving him financial assistance through the best lawyers.

  21. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    DSJ has friends all over the league, Skeebs. It’s not like they grew up or hung out together back in the day.

  22. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    His friend was acquitted of the murder, Bullit. The connections to these crimes are tenuous at best, and he has never been considered a suspect in either of them.

    If having shitty friends is a criteria for being part of the league, Johnny football will never make it.

  23. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Johnny Football doesn’t have shitty friends. He has rich connected friends who get courtside seats to watch LeBron play (King James is a big Manziel fan) that like to party and drink.

    Who doesn’t want friends like that?

  24. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, the LAPD doesn’t consider them tenuous. And neither did the Eagles.

  25. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    “DeSean Jackson was not part of the case,” Jane Robison, a spokesman for the LA District Attorney’s Office, told NJ.com. “He was not a charged defendant. He was not a witness” in the first incident.

    ————————————

    Crosson added that Jackson was never considered a suspect in the (other) crime.

    Sounds like trumped up bullshit to me. Leonard Little skates after killing a woman. But people are ‘scared’ by shit like this. Gee, Ray Lewis was in the street when the 2 guys were stabbed to death. He gave false testimony, obstructed justice, and ratted out his friends.

    Is DSJ dumb? Sure. Is he foolish for flashing gang signs? Yup. But this is seriously silly to use this as a reason for dropping him. Yeah, his salary is onerous. But Philly is scapegoating him with these unsubstantiated connections to the Crips to get out of paying him. Pretty chickenshit to me. He’ll get signed.

    Shit, we could even throw him an incentive-laden make-good deal. His pricetag is certainly coming down.

  26. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Dlooars to donuts, Mark Davis gets a hold of him.

  27. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Oh terrific: “San Jose police arrest 49ers cornerback Chris Culliver.”

  28. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Dumb and Dumbest. Apparently Chris Culliver was arrested for felony hit-and run (a bicyclist), and possession of brass knuckles, another felony. He was arrested without incident. Well, 2 out of 3 is still pretty bad.

    Looks like CB jumped up the draft board . . .

  29. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Brass knuckles? Ask Daffy Duck if he has any brass knuckles.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs3v3_the-stupor-salesman-scene_fun

  30. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. Dumb move by Culliver. We definitely need to draft probably two CBs now.

  31. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Funny that Chuck said the exact same things about the innocence of Aaron Hernandez.
    Chuck was quoting a “source” that said Hernandez would be cleared and playing football next season. Ho’w that working out?
    Waiting for Chuck to defend Ray Carruth.
    IF DSJ is not affiliated with the Crips why is he flashing gang signs at games and on social media?

  32. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    It would be painfully hilarious if Culliver caused us to bring Carlos Rogers back for one more year.

  33. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Grumpy

    A lot of people were thinking the same thing.
    Damn stupid because Culliver just kissed a decentnew contract goodbye.

  34. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I just think it’s funny that Bullitt thinks DSJ should lose his livelihood for innuendo. Because whispers are fact. That story is as thin as Bullit’s skin.

    And, gee, the timing is a little funny, ain’t it? The killing that he wasn’t tied to in any way happened in 2010. The ‘gang’ paperwork (yeah, those gangbangers are excellent bookkeepers) found in his warehouse where a shooting took place was 2 years ago. This comes out now? Hmmmmmmmmm. Sounds lioke someone wanted an out.

    The funniest part? Look at the photo in the article. DeSean is wearing red pants. The other guy is wearing a red sweatshirt. Crips do not wear red. That is beyond a no-brainer. That is a death penalty. Get it? That is a no-no. In other words, if they were Crips, they’d be dead already. Wearing red for a Crip is like Bergs dating Nancy Pelosi.

    Like Paul Brown blackballing Bill Walsh, Philly is doiung all they can to f&&& over DSJ. Why wait until 2 weeks after free agency started to give him a shot to catch on somewhere else?

    MJD signs with the Raiders. They may be halfway decent.

  35. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    . . . to not give him a shot . . .

  36. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    There’s no blackball here, Chuck. Half a dozen teams are lining up to sign the guy. Philly was trying to trade him, but nobody bit at the owners’ meeting, so they released him. The story came from NJ.com, not the Eagles. If they leaked it to NJ, it was to cover their butt with their fans, not to derail his career. He does fine with that on his own.

  37. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    There are 3 teams that are in a position to sign him. KC, the Jets, and the Raiders. The rest are window shopping. The Jets have cap space, and Vick likes him. The Raiders have the cap space, and,well, they are the Raiders. Adding a crip to the roster would fit right in. KC needs a speed guy, and Reid certainly knows and understands him.

    The story just smacks of a needless dig at a guy philly wants to screw over as they bot him out the door.

  38. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    How’s life in the ivory tower, Bullit? Funny you think DSJ is guilty of crimes he was nowhere near, was never a suspect, and hasn’t been charged with. How does that work?

    Break a bullshit story filled with incorrect innuendo and then cower in the bushes? Like you hide in the bushes near the Boys Club? Sure seems like Philly is trying to damage his rep since they couldn’t get any takers on a trade.

    What is DSJ guilty of, again?

  39. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Nobody’s accusing DSJ of any crimes that I know of. He’s being accused of having ties to gangs. The NFL doesn’t like guys who have ties to gangs. As for his rep, he’s gotten a pretty bad one all by himself.

  40. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I see Unca is busy making friends and influencing people!

  41. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, since guilt by association de riguer, this would preclude about 50% of NFL players from suiting up. Gonna be a watered-down league, eh?

    Besides, Bullit wants to get rid of Ahmad Brooks, Aldon Smith, Colin Kaepernick (hat-gate), Vernon Davis (his brother’s a murderer. Apple, tree and all that), Daniel Kilgore, Eric Wright, Perrish Cox, Demarcus Dobbs, and Frank Gore (everyone’s a thug at U of Miami), and a few others because of their obvious character flaws.

    Looks like we will be busy in the draft, eh, Bullit?

  42. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry if you’re trolling for an argument again.
    Give you enough rope and you hang yourself with all your contradictions.
    Yeah yesterday Chuck was outraged that he was linked to the Crips. At 8:34 today he did the same.
    Basic usual vortex of BS from Chuck.

  43. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    So Ray Rice whomps on his girlfriend and tries to drag her from the elevator. Next, he is getting indicted for it and the next day they get married. You can’t make this stuff up!

  44. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I think Ray wanted to make sure she could take a punch, maybe a precursor to the Pre-Nup Berger.

    By marrying her, she’s probably not required to bare witness against him now…video not withstanding.

    Smart move perhaps?

  45. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    He probably told her of the comfort and riches that were about to go away and their wallets came to their senses!

  46. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    No doubt 😀

  47. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe next time he’ll take the Vegas option.
    What goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas –
    What goes on in AC makes national headlines.

  48. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    For me 2 Day 3 wide receivers are worth drafting if there.
    Mentioned before WR Jared Abbrederis Wisconsin

    Cody Latimer WR Indiana 6’3″ 215 lbs and just ran a 4.39 at his Pro Day Niner coaches and scouts attended his Pro Day.
    Seeing the video Indiana can’t make up their minds on a helmet to wear.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiwTVuD8k1M

  49. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh Bullit – I’m curious about Latimer myself –
    Just posted a vid-clip on Chucks’ site, with SJSU WR Chandler Jones.
    Another kid that might fly under the radar into the final RDs.
    He too put up excellent numbers and ran sub-4.4s.

    Plenty of ways to attack this Draft Board with the WRs this year.
    VERY deep.

  50. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    WR Paul Richardson from Colorado is interesting too.
    He’s projected at the RD2 level right now.

    4.4 at the Combine, 38″ Vert, decent College numbers as well.

    Chandler Jones put up 248 catches over a 50 game career.

    Even if we miss/pass on some of the more popular guys, we should find some value later on down the Board.

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Another smaller slot-type guy I’m impressed with is Baylor WR Tevin Reese.
    5’10” 163
    He’s another guy projected into the 7th RD area right now.

    From CBS –
    According to Baylor’s official athletic website, Reese has been clocked at 4.31 seconds in the 40-yard dash and recorded a 45.5″ vertical jump and 11’5″ broad jump, each of which would rank among the most impressive efforts in Scouting Combine history if duplicated in Indianapolis. Participated on Baylor’s track team

    Player OverviewConsidering the talent that Baylor has sent to the NFL over the past few seasons, it is positively frightening that Reese is considered by many to be the fastest player Art Briles has coached with the Bears. How fast is Reese? Consider this statistic. Of his 25 career touchdown receptions, 22 of them covered at least 40 yards, including all but his last score of the 2013 season – just a ho-hum 25-yarder against the Kansas Jayhawks October 26.
    Unfortunately for Reese and the Bears, the nation’s most explosive deep ball threat suffered a dislocated right wrist against the Oklahoma Sooners a week later, ending his regular season prematurely. Though Reese returned to play against Central Florida in the Fiesta Bowl, he was limited to five receptions for “just” 43 yards, his lowest output of the year.

    Nicknamed “Sweet Feet” for obvious reasons, Reese is the type of game-breaker every NFL team is looking for. If he can prove his health at the Combine, he could position himself as one of the draft’s most exciting wideouts of the 2014 class. If nothing else, he should contend for the year’s 40-yard dash championship.

  52. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not a fan of smallish receivers perhaps burned out on guys like Kyle Williams who never really displayed his speed on any consistent level as a WR.
    Devon Wiley on the PS and I want to see what he can do in TC and pre-season.

  53. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m with you on Wiley, been curious why he hasn’t seen some action as well.

    I’m OK with adding a ‘burner’ at the right price.
    Plenty of options within this Class.

    We have to find a deep threat IMO.

  54. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    One way to beat the Press-game Seattle employs is to run by them.

    T.Y. Hilton proved to be a headache for them.
    Wouldn’t hurt to have the option I guess?

  55. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I also see that CBS moved Dri Archer from the RB Group to WRs.
    Always room for a ‘Joker’ with speed, if utilized properly.

    Player Overview
    Oregon’s DeAnthony Thomas may have garnered most of the attention over the past three years as the nation’s most mesmerizing combination of speed and agility, but Archer – the first KSU player to earn a spot on the Walter Camp All-American team — wasn’t far behind.
    Like Thomas, Archer spent most of his career at running back with the Golden Arches but scouts are split as to where he’ll wind up in the NFL. He was invited to the Combine as a running back but given his slight frame and soft hands, it isn’t difficult to imagine him ultimately making the conversion to slot receiver, a position he played with increasing frequency as his record-breaking career at Kent State came to a close.

    Regardless of what position he winds up in the NFL, Archer is undoubtedly one of the nation’s elite playmakers. If not for an ankle injury suffered on the team’s first offensive series of the 2013 season, he may have shattered Kent State’s records for all-purpose yardage and scoring. Even with the injury, Archer was recognized with All-MAC honors as a receiver and kick returner, a year after a dominant 2012 campaign at running back. Archer leaves Kent State with 4,980 all-purpose yards and 40 career touchdowns.

  56. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Two WRs not getting mentioned as much are Allen Robinson Penn St and Davante Adams Fresno St. Maybe because Watkins and Evans are getting all the ink.
    Maarquis Lee might slide into the 20’s.
    If I were him I might not attend the draft because it’s brutal to sit there and wait while every other guy gets drafted.
    They keep showing the undrafted wallflowers on the networks in Radio City Music Hall..

  57. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Super Bowl 50 date set for Feb 7, 2016 at Levi’s Stadium.

  58. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Archer turned in a 4.26 40 with a 1.46 10yd-Split and a 38″ Vert.
    Crazy numbers for a little guy.

  59. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Now that Red Bryant and Chris Clemmons are gone Seadderall should be easier to run on. They still have that safety that plays like a LB but his support up front will not be as formidable.

  60. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I loved Davantes’ College production stat-wise, until he turned in a 4.56 40 in Indy.
    Robinson did even worse, 4.60.

    Agree about Marqise Lee too.
    Another guy flying under the ‘hype radar’.

    Point is, there are numerous options coming from this Draft Class.

    Good Scouting can uncover a gem that won’t cost us the higher Draft Pick.

    More room perhaps, to snatch a good DB or DLineman, if rated higher.

  61. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve got 4 WRs that would help our cave man mentality on offense. A small fast guy is anti cave man. Bullit just mentioned two of them, Allen Robinson and Devante Adams. Another is one that I first hard of from Bullit, Abbrederis from Wisconsin. The 4th guy is Matthews of Vandy. The guy I think would help us the most won’t be there when we draft and I’m not sure with a cave man mentality why a team would draft a WR in the 1st round anyway. His name is Benjamin from FSU.

  62. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d still favor Jordan Matthews and Donte Moncrief as 2 guys that could be around in RD2.

    Go Defense in RD1, either, or both of these guys in RD2, wouldn’t bother me one bit.

  63. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Benjamin isn’t long on games played Berger.
    Love his height but, I think he’s overrated, in terms of College production.

    We’ll get some playmakers from this Draft Class at the WR position, assuming our Scouts get the job done.
    The rest is up to the OC to utilize them.

  64. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    He’s another guy that sh!t the bed in the 40 at Indy.
    4.61 with a 32.5″ Vert?

    Smells risky to me.
    Love his size, not crazy about his Combine numbers though.

  65. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We seem to have a similar player in Jon Baldwin already on the Roster.
    I’m not as sold on Kelvin Benjamin now, as I was before his Combine performance.

    Give me Defense over a WR in RD1.

  66. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    At least Baldwin had a 42″ Vert to his credit when he worked out in Indy.

  67. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Our offense does not need someone to take the top off. Mensa Roman calls plays where 3 WR go long and nobody goes over the vacated middle. Kap looks at all the deep guys that aren’t open and gets sacked, then the fans blame Kap for locking on. Absolutely naïve fans.

    If there is a dump off it is usually late and on the wrong side of the field. Mensa Roman is a run OC and passing is not what he is programmed for. We are going to be screwed again.

    As long as we have this cave man offense we should at least draft WRs that fit the play calling and that is big, tall, strong 50/50 guys. Speed does not matter. We had Joe Staley lined up at wide out last year. What else does a fan need to know?

    We need Alshon Jeffery clones. Slow (or fast, doesn’t matter) big, long and wins 50/50 balls. The cave man’s WR!

  68. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I agree, Benjamin could be either Baldwin or Brandon Marshall.
    However Benjamin’s so raw he probably won’t get there til 2 years from now.
    Jon Baldwin’s highlight package from college is similar to Benjamin’s at Fla St.
    Baldwin has skills he just needs to finally adapt to the NFL and focus. It’s make or break for him. I show his highlight package to remind show what he is capable of.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbzuT2K0B68

  69. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    IMO, Baldwin does not have the intensity to thrive in the NFL. Benjamin is 6’5″ with really long arms. He might have the attitude of Baldwin, or not, but he is a much better physical specimen. He might even be a cave man, Baldwin is no cave man. Baldwin is more of a metrosexual. I see no comparison between the two when deciding who can get to the 50/50 ball. FSU won the national championship when going to Benjamin while everybody knew he was getting the throw. Baldwin can’t do that.

  70. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I simply question his measurables Berger.
    A 6’5″ guy with a 32.5″ Vert?

    Little guys like Dri Archer and Tevin Reese did better.

    Baldwin at least has a headstart in terms of NFL experience, though not much to show for it of course.

    I just don’t trust Benjamin’s body of work to date.

    Jeff Janis from Sag Valley St is equally as compelling, from a size comparison and, he’s had more production to show for himself albeit, from a much more obscure program, to the tune of over 4000yds.

    I can’t be impressed with a 32.5″ vertical, unless you weighed 290lbs and played DT.

  71. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m going to project DE Larry Webster from Bloomsburg as a TE.
    He’s 6’6″ 252 and is an accomplished Basketball player.

    He ran a 4.58 40 and posted a 36.5″ vertical.
    Beating Benjamin and, he played Defense.

    I’d give him a fighting chance, to have a shot at TE, since he’s done well in the BBall environment.

  72. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    One of my wishlist DTs, Jay Bromley from Syracuse, came in at 6’3″ 306 and managed a 33.5″ vertical.

  73. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Looking at the TEs in the draft they are all 6’4 to 6’6″ and 240 to 265 lbs.
    In other words they are all Vance McDonald/Gronkowski size.
    They is your current prototype TE.

  74. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    For those interested in high school basketball.
    The California open division championship is on tonight at 8pm
    featuring Mater Dei vs Bishop O’Dowd on CSN.
    The two top players in Calif Steve Johnson against Ivan Rabb.

  75. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I can’t say Benjamin is the answer but I do know for 100% that Baldwin isn’t. Baldwin was a combine mavin. Benjamin won a national championship in the clutch with his tenacity. You take Baldwin, I’ll take Benjamin.

    While everybody came off of Jeffery because of his 40 time I still think he is money. A 4.6 does not scare me when there are other attributes, like cave manning for Mensa Roman’s play calling! We already had the take the top off guy and traded him for the metrosexual Baldwin who can’t get on the field. And you want to go there again? Do you understand the type of plays we call? I’m not mocking you, It is a legitimate question.

  76. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I know what you’re saying, I was high on Benjamin Pre-Combine also.
    After digging into all the stats on the WR Class, I’m just not sold on him as a RD1 option for us.

    I’d be more focused on a Defensive option is all.

    Baldwin and Benjamin remind me of each other.
    Agreed about the size/wingspan potential you suggest.

    I’d just look elsewhere in RD1.

    I’d be more comfortable taking a chance on a kid like Janis, who needs work too but, he’d come much cheaper.

  77. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    As for Baldwin?
    I’m not holding my breath with him either.
    He was a consolation option to AJJ as we know, another lack-luster RD1 whiff.
    But, at least Baldwin has some size to speak of.

    As we all know, the Roman Offense isn’t going to turn a journeyman WR into the next coming of Jerry Rice.

  78. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The Roman offense threw the least passes in the NFL and if statistics were available for the amount of WRs on the field for any play I would absolutely say we are far and away the team that leads the league with the least. Cave man is as cave man does. We are Mensas for the cave man era. The perfect NoFear offense. BTW, NoFear is the one who came up with the “cave man” reference. Obviously I loved it!

  79. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- I know you NoFear and Bullit love Greg Roman but I want him out.

  80. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    From what I’ve gleaned Benjamin dropped a lot of easy passes. There are better guys out there. I think they need to go CB at this point anyway in the 1st round.

    Beyond that, depending on one combine day can be detrimental to finding the right guy. Keenan Allen had a crappy day (mainly because he was coming off a knee injury) but in the end he turned out fine.

  81. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger let’s just say Roman has plenty of room for improvement, I don’t particularly love the guy, tolerance might better describe it.

    Chuck, I’m not totally sold on anyone’s Combine numbers alone.
    I realize 40s don’t sell the entire player, as in Jerry’s case.

    I do however, use total stats to separate a tight race.
    Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham got separated on their respective 40s for instance.

    Seeing Davante is another example.
    He had to be dragging furniture with a 4.56 showing.
    Brandin Cooks replaced him on my wishlist due to 40s being the difference.

    For me, Benjamin isn’t a hands catcher ala Crabtree or, a tall burner like Randy Moss.

    All I’m suggesting is, the Combine numbers do provide a fair basis for athletic aptitide on several timed events.
    They should all at least be able to jump and change direction at the WR position.

    In the end, Scouts have to measure the ‘desire’ factor too.
    Guys that excel on and off the field, participate in dual sports, stay out of trouble, put in the extra work etc, all get factored into where they ultimately get graded.
    We see nothing but the obvious web-generated criteria.

  82. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’d much rather find a Late RD gem like Victor Cruz, then to swing and miss on an AJJ.

    With the kind of depth this Class is offering, the odds are in Baalkes’ favor, to take a chance on a kid like Jeff Janis for example, then to gamble on Benjamin with a shortened body of work.

  83. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca is correct, Benjamin dropped some easy passes but he caught unbelievable passes in traffic. My guy is whoever we can get in the 2nd round from my list. Since we have the NoFear caveman Mensa Roman we need a caveman WR. He has to win 50/50 balls or he is a non factor. Our NoFear/Mensa Roman play calling doesn’t get players open, they have to win 50/50 balls. Speed means nothing.

  84. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I also see benefit in a ‘pocket-rocket’ that big CBs can’t lay a glove on or, run with.
    Boldin and Crabtree are possession guys, chain-movers.
    Neither runs away from anyone.

    Patton possesses that ability, though he hasn’t shown much due to his short availablity.

    Our CBs need to be addressed too.
    Another S is also needed.
    Comes down to the game of slotting the talent.

    As WRs appear to be extremely deep, I’m all for shopping in other areas of need, at the top end of the Draft.

  85. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    For me it’s not that I love Roman but rather I believe in stability and continuity.
    Maybe you favored the old method of changing the OC every year
    but old school says if it’s not broken don’t fix it.
    In the NFC the top 3 teams Seahags (31) Niners (32) and Panthers (30) were the bottom 3 in passing attempts. This seems to be a winning strategy. And the 3 teams combining for 37 wins can’t be matched in the AFC.
    IMHO Kap was not ready to take the responsibility of putting the ball in the air 35 times a game. In fairness to Kap when Vernon, Crabtree and Patton were hurt who was Kap going to pass to? That’s why we need to draft receivers who can function in this offense.
    The offense is not as sexy as you like but it get’s the job done.
    At the end of the last 2 seasons the Niners were in the Red Zone at games end with multiple chances to win.

  86. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Speed helps to move the Safety Berger.

    Granted, it still involves the OC designing plays that factor into that sort of system.
    Hard to run many variations when you limit the number of WRs on a given play however.

    As for the 50/50 premise, a vertical is a huge advantage but, you need to be a strong hands-catcher as well.

    Donte Moncrief or Jordan Matthews in that comparison, before Kelvin.

  87. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Speed also brings the tempo of the Offense up for the Qb too.
    Something I’ve advocated for Kaep too.
    There’s no timing on this Offense.
    Hence the reason we’ve looked so inept with slants and quick-hitters.

    There’s blame to be placed in numerous areas .
    Spreading the formations helps, certainly.
    We do need more options, no argument there.

    Kaep developing more touch, and accuracy, also becomes a factor, with different types of routes.

  88. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    VMcD and Patton both have more to give.
    Neither got much of an opportunity to contribute as Rookies.
    We are in the Playoff mix however, nothing wrong with that.

    Never rest in the race for perfection.

  89. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- And we lost, is that what you like? Obviously you like the Singletary offense because that is very close to what we run. Doing the same thing over and again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Obviously you are OK with losing in the play-offs. That makes you relevant, right?

    To hell with continuity, I want titles. Roman is nothing, our defense is why we are who we are. With an offense we would have won at least two of the last three SBs. But you are happy. OK. I understand you. I’m not that.

    I see a major flaw and want it corrected. I’m trying to find a cave man WR to go along with our cave man OC. I’d rather have an OC with a few brain cells that understands spacing and not having our O-line not out numbered on every blocking assignment.

  90. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Continuity with this offense is for Bullit and Singletary. Just brilliant. And insane. We shall lose before our time! Right?

  91. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    How many Super Bowls do we have in the last 3 years with this great defense? Zero. Continuity on offense is for stupid people when the defense dominates and offense sucks. I’m not calling anyone stupid, you’se guys can call yourselves out! Just keep talking.

  92. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger you know me well enough to know, I’m a Defense first guy myself.

    How we fix this Offense is not an easy call for me.
    Whether it’s Roman or Harbaugh, we have to utilize the passing game more effectively then we do.

    We can both agree it stinks.

    My short answer is, to add a field stretcher, other then Vernon.

    Seeing what we face in the Seattle Secondary and, the success a little guy like T.Y. Hilton had against them, I’m fine with adding a similar piece.

    Kaep has had success with the deep middle throws.
    If we could at least ‘show’ the threat of a deep option, that piece of the field becomes more vulnerable.

  93. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- You know me, I’m a defense first guy too.

    Fixing this offense is easy when you consider the talent we have. It is exceptional. Our OC is terrible and my biggest concern is it might not be him, it could be our head coach. We won’t find out until we change OCs. Harbaugh’s Bo Schembechler past is the Schottenheimer that kills me. Bullit loves consistently losing in the playoffs. I want more.

  94. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NJ/Bergs, at least they are making noises about using more WR sets. This is a big part of the problem. Play action on 1st down. Shit, I’ve been watching all this shit on NFL Network about all these games and even back in 2011 with Smith we were throwing SOME slants and using play action. They still had the fricking

  95. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    jumbo formations too much, but not as much as now.

  96. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, it was a winning strategy for Seattle, not us. Duh.

  97. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, I wonder how much last year was hampered by Kappy’s foot injury, and the fact that the WRs were shit other than BD and Boldin. It had to play a part in some of the tendency to lean on the run game. And they did for too long. Does Kappy need to improve? Sure. He’s a hard worker, he should be able to progress.

    The hope is they amp up the passing game. The thing about the Smith years is Smith was able to spread the ball around to lots of different guys per game. With Roman. Are they npow asking Kappy to read as much, or is Kappy not seeing it?

  98. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Don’t push it. Don’t get me started on why we lost the last game.

  99. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Unca- There is no such thing as a top QB in this system that the 49ers have. The best QB prospect since Elway was stymied by Harbaugh in college. His name is Andrew Luck. We could break through and win a SB one day, but with a smarter coach we could dominate. Problem is our coach is too Schembechler. The perfect NoFear and Bullit coach.

  100. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Kinda where we are Chuck, between the Alex checkdowns and, Kaep not utilizing more than one target.

    It’s got to improve.
    One thing Kaep rarely looks to, is a quick hitter inside the numbers, ala slant plays.
    Whether by omission or poor visibility, Kaep needs the timing and rhythm with his targets.
    Something not afforded to him due to injuries early on last year I’m sure.

    Roman is another topic, which includes a footnote for Harbaugh as Berger suggests.

    If Kaep gets to a point where the pocket becomes comfortable for him, other options become more viable in the deeper part of the field.
    Right now LBs and DEs key on him to run.

    If he can hold them and stay at home, the middle should allow him options that have otherwise been ignored or under utilized.

  101. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- We would not have been in the last game without Kap. Don’t get me started you Roman fan. It is obvious you are an Alex smith fan and hate Kap. I want to hear your opinions of why we should have a different QB. I flat out guarantee that if I were calling the plays Kap would not have had 3 turnovers in that game. Our OC is on your same brain wave. Limited.

  102. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Leaking a RB, like Kendall into the middle of the field, should provide an advantage for us.

    The final play in Seattle was there for him too.
    A short dump off could have been a huge play there and, Kendall got ignored, because the LB trailed Crabtree on that fateful play.

    Therein lies the difference between Alex and Kaep.

    Kaep has the big arm and trusts himself to use it.
    Alex was more of a tactician, play-it-safe underneath type of QB.
    Kaep needs to know the options as Alex did.
    I’m sure he’ll progress in that regard.

  103. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- You are a good fan. I love you for that. What is obvious to me is you never had to strategize a game. You are a numbers guy, I always destroy those types. I love numbers, I kill the numbers. Numbers people are so logical they are just nothing more than calculators. I love going against calculators. I always win.

  104. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Don;t get me started indeed, Bullit.

    The button pusher doesn’t like his buttons pushed?

    Boo hoo!

  105. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    When you ever have an original thought. Bring it!

  106. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    What I’d love to see evolve for us is, something similar to what Rodgers does in GB.
    Multiple options, a solid and well respected RB and, an above average threat like Kaep, to take off on any given play.
    That involves play design and timing.

    This year is likely the watershed moment for Roman, moreso than Harbaugh IMO.

    If Harbaugh can’t bridge the Offensive River Mundane, Roman likely takes the fall.
    I’d much prefer to retain Harbaugh so, Roman becomes expendable.

  107. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    NJ, look at Gore’s receiving numbers under Nolantary and Harbaugh. They drop off the proverbial cliff in 2011. That outlet was taken away by Harbaugh. Like I said, I was amazed watching highlights of the 2011 season today to see the slants that we were throwing. It still wasn’t a lot, but it has become nonexistent.

    So, there are a few thing that do need to happen. Drill into Kappy’s head that the low risk dump off isn’t as bad as the high risk int if there’s even a little question as toan outlet. Get him a speed guy, and get a better passing attack designed. If we are going to run 3-4 WR sets, we need 3-4 viable WIDE RECIEVERS. Not those 270 lb slot guys.

  108. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Mom letting you use the computer after 11:00?

    Yay Bullit!

  109. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Biggest difference between us and GB is the TE position.
    Perhaps it’s as simple as getting the TE more involved in the passing game?

    At this point, it starts with imagination, starting with the Roman, by way of Harbaugh.

  110. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    I suggest you leave my family members out of your juvenile taunts and your moronic cheap shots.

  111. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I agree Chuck, Kaep doesn’t seem to look for that portion of the game.
    He’s a fast-baller.
    Needs to develop touch and timing along with better visibility of his options.
    We’re too one-dimensional, no argument.

    Creativity eludes us on Offense.
    I think Baalke has an idea of what he’d like to shape this roster into.
    LMJ made sense to me intially as that type of weapon.
    Open field runner, good speed to work against the LB level.

    But? He’s langusihed in anonymity.
    No dump offs, little to no contributions from the backfield and very negligible returns in the PR/KR game.

    Insert headscratching motion here.

  112. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Well, it’s not even Kaep. Smith’s numbers to Gore went way down with Harbaugh which leads directly to design.

    But I agree that Kappy needs to develop a better feel for short passes and how to take something off the fastball. That is one thing where Russell Wilson is very good at. He reads the field very well, buys time and kills.

  113. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    LMJ and Greg Roman = what is a fast lateral guy for? Lets plug into some Bullit numbers to find out some calculator genius.

  114. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    I have provided the All 22 film and in the majority of them Gore is wide open in the left flat for a 5 yard dump off. That is better than a forced pass that’s incomplete and keeps you out of second or third and long but Kap chooses not to utilize the outlet.
    Very simplistic thing, this playcalling. If the play works it’s good playcalling. If it fails it’s bad playcalling.

  115. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    This offseason is going to be murder. I think we are in good shape this year. I think Seattle is weaker already due to who they’ve lost. We were hamstrung last year and still did fairly well overcoming both internal and external shit.

  116. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Harbaugh is an offensive-side guy. I can all but guarantee he oversees and greatly contributes to the offensive game plan each week. The restrictions are what the opponent stops well and what our guys don’t do well. If you don’t see it in practice it’s nor likely to get called in the game. I will guarantee you that Roman can draw up plays in his sleep for all of our receivers. This crap that he doesn’t understand how to run plays that suit the fans is horseshit.

    If Harbaugh wanted to pass more to more receivers that’s what you’d be seeing on Sundays. Kaepernick told the world how much defense he reads, understands or cares about. He’s locked in at the pre-snap read. Do you think football-smart DBs and DCs don’t see that? And don’t give him looks to fool and confuse him? Do you not think Harbaugh and Roman don’t know it, too?

    Harbaugh is not given to risky play calling. His methods got him the best W/L record in the league in his years here. Not likely we’ll see the next coming of the run and shoot anytime soon.

    If some had their way we’d be throwing more balls to the opponents than to Niners receivers just for the sake of putting more wide outs down the field. But then they’d just bitch about that instead.

    What our offense needs is more plays that we can call that we know we can play well and count on. A list of hits that span the range of down, distance and field position. What we also need is for the receivers to quit dragging their asses out of the huddle when the call is run.

  117. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er how do you assess the short passing game?
    Under-utilized or non-existent?

    I buy your theory about Harbaugh’s MO and, wonder whether he’s limiting the options Roman employs?

    Your theory makes perfect sense, I’m just trying to find the missing components, if there is one thing that would improve the balance.

    I completely agree with the fact that Kaep isn’t seeing beyond the primary target, mostly growing pains I’d suspect but, I also subscribe to his lack of touch as it relates to potential for the short game.
    Leaking a RB, dragging a TE etc.

  118. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Eric Davis, after the 1st Carolina game, said he had never seen a more lethargic group of WRs in his days of watching football as he did watching the Niners that day. No one exploding off the line, guys covered all day. Teams keying on VD and Boldin. I think that was KW’s last game BTW. Does that limit things, NoFear? We had a lot of injuries, eh? My thoghts of putting more WRs out there was to HELP the run game and not let teams key off of it when we loaded up our side of the line.

    Every preseason, all I heard from Nolan and Singletary was how well Smith was at throwing deep passes. How they were going to turn it loose. Did any of it come to pass? No. Harbaugh is following the footsteps of the 2 guys before him in keeping it close and trying to win on the last drive.

    It can work, but it is a risky strategy. Any mistake is magnified. One mistake can kill.

    Is Kappy green? Has he slowed the game down for himself enough? No. Not all the time. At times he has been dominant. At times, he’s been fooled and confused. But he’s still pretty green. He has 23 reg. season starts, and 6 playoff starts. Should he be all-world now?

    You tell me.

  119. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I love NoFear and his perspective. Marty Schottenheimer and his no Super Bowl victories = a NoFear philosophy! Would NoFear please declare why the Roman offense will win a Super Bowl.

  120. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I’m not advocating for fan-pleasing plays, just plays that exploit the Defenses we face in any given matchup.

    We all too often get ourselves boxed into the mundane, non-imaginative brand of smashmouth antics, at the expense of being predictable.

    More TE involvement in the passing game?
    I’m looking for ideas that this personnel might do better with.

    I certainly don’t see enough in terms of exploiting the LB level in the middle of the field, no matter who it might be lined up against us.

    I would look back to the days of Jimmie Johnson, a run-heavy Offense in it’s day, leaking Emmitt into the middle and, often destroying the matchups there, because he forced them to be flat-footed in run responsibility.

    Something as simple as play action should afford us that sort of wrinkle I’d think?
    All too often we do play in a phone booth.

  121. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck, Kyle was an easy one to spot in terms of missed assignments.
    He was the key reason I started having my doubts about the position Coach, John Morton.

    Asking myself why he’d be running his route into the area of another WR.

    I know we’ve had a good time kicking our theories around, between Roman and Harbaugh and the players but, it almost comes down to a lack of imagination for me.

    Sure, everything relies on timing, and completion of assignments in the passing game.
    I’m just trying to find a common denominator, if there is something that simple to identify?

    We now have Boldin and Crabtree together for another Season, assuming they both stay healthy, I’d like to find the complimentary piece(s) for them.

    Patton has always impressed me as a younger version of Mario, quciker then fast, reliable in traffic.
    I’d just like to see that phase of our game become respected and, utilized more.

  122. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Dallas had superior talent and when we beat them in the 1994 season it was an abnormality. Harbaugh and Roman could have won 3 of 4 years with that team. Let us talk reality instead of fantasy football.

  123. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    We have the best offensive line in football. I have zero doubt about that. The problem is our play calling is near the bottom of the league. It is NoFear caliber. We are always outnumbered. It kills what advantage we have with our offensive line.

  124. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Berger I don’t disagree with your assessment, simply looking for an answer.
    Personnel or philosophy?

    Given the Harbaugh/Baalke tensions suggested in recent weeks, regarding the personnel selections, I’m seriously wondering which is the heavier factor?

    Is it as simple as asking Harbaugh to loosen up control on Roman or, is it Roman selling something Harbaugh expects?

    NoFear49er brings up a valid point.
    I often felt Roman was a pretty shrewd strategist.

    We’d see glimpses of Offensive brilliance, followed by utter meltdowns.
    As in the infamous pitch play in StL 2 years back.

    We lack something fluid, a cohesiveness of sorts.

    Shoot me, seriously, I’m not a very imaginative Offensive-minded guy but, I do understand the theory of exploiting matchups when it comes to dictating to a Defense.

    As NoFear49er says, down and distance vs what’s in the arsenal.
    Could it be Harbaugh redirecting the plays I wonder?
    Unless we listen to the chatter between the booth and the sideline, we’ll never know.

    It might explain the constant turmoil of getting a play into the huddle quickly enough.

  125. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I guess, for me, it would be nice to see some diversity.
    I appreciate the idea of looking to the Spread and running from it, it makes sense.

    I also think it’s dependant on Kaep to spread the ball around more too.
    We’ve shown the quick outside throw when a Defense is playing off at times but, it never seems to get us into a rhythm.
    Show a wrinkle, go back to basics.

    I like what Rodgers does in GB, always forcing a Defense to watch all the options on Offense.
    What GB has been lacking is what we do best, force Defenses to respect the run.

    Now that we have that, we need what GB does, force Defenses to take our passing game beyond Boldin, Crabtree and Davis.

    Who steps up in that regard?

  126. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    NJ49er,

    I’ve written before about the receivers ignored on the field, in the flat, over the middle, curl zones and crossers underneath and behind the backers. I’d guess the coaches are keeping things to a level Kaepernick is capable of and comfortable doing and not pushing him to see the whole field and know where all his receivers are.

    They know our defense and punter will keep us in the game against anybody. No reason to risk Kaepernick’s development and confidence on plays that are too dependent on him reading the defense correctly and being on the same page as the receiver on options.

    I think it’s worked out quite well despite having to suffer insults from the more naive and ignorant know-it-alls for saying so and not cursing the play calling like “everyone else.” Our passing game will progress with CK7’s abilities and understanding slowing the game down for him.

    CK7 and we are fortunate that we don’t have to put him out there throwing at all costs and taking his lumps and losses because that’s the only way we can hope to compete. Even if we put three receivers on the LOS defenses don’t go all nickel and dime on us and even if they go nickel on third and long it’s usually a nickel with the “big guys” in to defend the run.

    Interesting to me that the offenses under the last two defensive-minded HCs are labeled as theirs while this one under a former NFL QB HC is labeled as Roman’s. Maybe it has more to do with grinding some personal axes.

  127. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear- There you go defending the play calling again. Exactly my point when I call this play calling the NoFear play calling.

  128. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Right. No one talks shit about Jimmy hat or Hostler, do they? Speaking of axes . . .

  129. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    I am sure I was not the only one smiling when you said this yesterday.
    “I flat out guarantee that if I were calling the plays Kap would not have had 3 turnovers in that game.”
    Of course not KAP would have had at least 6 plus turnovers if you were calling the plays.
    You think you can call plays IN HINDSIGHT from the couch with a brew in your hand watching the network feed?
    Sorry to break this news to you but unless you have the ALL 22 view you cannot even see where every player is positioned on the field. The network follows the ball so I find your assertion pure folly. If you can’t see the entire field you can’t call plays.
    You are just a Monday Morning QB constantly second guessing.
    Book a flight down to San Jose Airport. I’ll pick you up and take you to 49er headquarters and you can offer your ideas and expertise to Baalke if you let me video it and post it. Deal???
    Niners are looking for a Offensive Consultant to replace Mangini.

  130. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit, the game isn’t as complicated as you and NoFear appear to want to make it. If you put 2 TEs on the line, whether overloaded to one side or not, as well as have 2 backs, and thus 1 WR, what does that tell the defense? Go nickel? Right. Drop the LBs into coverage? No.

    Time and again the Niners run out of this, their base formation. Even if they do throw out of this package, the TEs are neutralized unless they can unclog themselves from the traffic on the line. One WR is easily covered more often than not. Its the offense that Nolan and Singletary ran. Stop Gore. We are a power run team first and foremost. This isn’t an issue.

    What is the TEAM saying now? ‘We need to use more 3 WR sets.’ Gee. I wonder why.

    Look, I have no problem with the jumbo formation in certain situations. But using it on 1st down is giving away a down. You usually end up with a 2nd and 8-12. Hmmmmm. What does the defense think there? Pass, maybe? The defense thinks rush the passer. Sack, incomplete, short completion, pick, whatever. Then 3rd and long, the defense pins their ears back and blitzes. The comnstant pressure on the offense to overcome shitty 1st down runs happens all the time.

    Once again the Niners were 5th for most 3 and outs iirc. Being a power run team is great if you can consistently get 4-6 yards on 1st down. We weren’t getting that by a long shot. Did we play-action? No. That’s Kappy’s fault. Bullshit. He’s still learning the game, but the offensive philosophy isn’t doing him many favors either.

    Given the fact the Niners WRs were having problems last year, what happened? Well, good defenses ate their lunch.

  131. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- I think if I were calling the plays I would be at the game. Our coaches do seem to prepare well for our games. I have no problem with our coaching staff in general, just the play calling lacks effectiveness.

    The play calling did improve since the game before Crabtree came back and we heard Harbaugh was changing some of the calls. This is why I call out Roman more than Harbaugh but in the end Harbaugh is the head coach.

    Harbaugh was hinting at more 3 WR sets for the coming year. I’ll believe it when I see it.

    If you remember last year my biggest gripe was a lack of D-line rotation. They did fix that this year, hopefully they learn the importance of spacing for the offense this year.

    If you film me talking to Baalke, cut it just before security gets there! LOL!

  132. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    The only change we really need to make with our play calling is to use formations that don’t allow the defense to load the box. I love a good running game but our running game is not what it could be with the great O-line we have assembled.

    Our use of formations make blocking assignments more difficult than they need to be because they allow the defense to outnumber the blockers. A 3 WR set takes 3 players out of the box to cover and makes at least one and usually two safeties back up away from the box too. What is left, 5 linemen and a TE blocking 6 in the box. A six on six blocking assignment. A nice 5 yard pick up on first down keeps us ahead of the chains instead of our current play calling that usually has us behind the chains.

  133. robNo Gravatar says:

    i agree with those calling for harbaugh to open it up on offense ! constantly going with formations that invite nine in the box and running right into the heart of it is becoming very problematic !

  134. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    When people stop making the excuse that Kap is “still learning”
    is when he deserves to make the bucks he’s asking for IMO.

  135. robNo Gravatar says:

    i have the perfect wedding gift for ray rice . two pair one regular and one pink … of boxing gloves !

  136. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Denny

    Exactly one week until GOT

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkKYEzmR92A

  137. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    NoFear49er I appreciate the reply.
    You have a valid opinion on Kaep.
    I’ve felt the need for the underneath game as well.
    I guess I could grasp your theory regarding the development aspect since, in a way, I’ve used the ‘touch’ portion of Kaeps’ game as something that seems to be remiss.

    Hard to argue that a Pistol-saavy QB can fine tune the nuances of the short passing game on short stint in the NFl as it were.

    Certainly can’t argue the maturation process of a QB needing some kid gloves early on.

  138. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    How about Kappy plays for 2 years, Bullit? Oh, I’m sorry, he’s being held to the Joe Montana standard. Every QB must win a Super Bowl by game 24.

  139. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Or they should be traded.

  140. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If you want to be paid as a top five QB the top five standards apply.

    Is that really that hard to understand that you should perform to your pay grade?
    $16 to $20 mil a year is not chump change and I expect him to carry the team if he’s taking up almost 20% of the payroll.
    If Kap doesn’t want the pressure he should ask for less and allow the team to afford him a better oline so he has more time to pass.

  141. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

  142. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Sorry, skippy. Kaepernick’s gone under you scenario.

    I guess you think Beth-el- Shalom is the way to go.

  143. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Are Romo and Cutler top 5? Not in your wildest dreams. Yet they are getting top 5 money. What you don’t understand is Kappy isn’t setting the value. Stupid idiots like Jerry Jones and Ginny McCaskey are. Put it this way. Would you rather have Jay Cutler or Colin Kaepernick as your starter?

    There are at least 10 teams that would LOVE to back the truck up for Kappy.

  144. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Basically if Kap doesn’t progress it’s still OK to cripple the team and pay him because the Niners follow other team’s stupidity.
    I see how you think. You just don’t believe in accountability.

2017 Schedule
Sept. 10: vs Carolina: L 3-23
Sept. 17: at Seattle: 9-12
Sept. 21: vs. L.A. Rams: L 39-41
Oct. 1: at Arizona: L 15-18
Oct. 8: at Indianapolis: L 23-26
Oct. 15: at Washington: L 24-26
Oct. 22: vs. Dallas, 1:05 p.m.
Oct. 29: at Philadelphia, 10 a.m.
Nov. 5: vs. Arizona, 1:05 p.m.
Nov. 12: vs. N.Y. Giants, 1:25 p.m.
Week 11 — Bye
Nov. 26: vs. Seattle, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 3: at Chicago, 10 a.m.
Dec. 10: at Houston, 10 a.m.
Dec. 17: vs. Tennessee, 1:25 p.m.
Dec. 24: vs. Jacksonville, 1:05 p.m.
Dec. 31: at L.A. Rams, 1:25 p.m.
 
2017 Draft Class
1. DE Solomon Thomas
1. ILB Reuben Foster
3. CB Ahkello Witherspoon
3. QB C.J. Beathard
4. RB Joe Williams
5. TE George Kittle
5. WR Trent Taylor
6. DT D.J. Jones
6. LB Pita Taumoepenu
7. CB Adrian Colbert
 
2017 Prognostications
Bullit: 5-11
Chuck: 9-7
Grumpy: 4-12
Mr Fletch: 5-11
NJ49er: 6-10
Rob: 9-7
RTFirefly: 5-11
Skeebers: 6-10
Winder: 4-12

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