Bystander Blues

I’ll be rooting for Denver in Sunday’s Super Bowl. Mostly because I despise the Seahawks. I’d like to see them beaten, and embarrassed would be even better. Tawdry, perhaps, but true.

But the fate of the Seahawks casts a shadow over the 49er house, too. The two teams are similar in many ways. They each have ex-college head coaches from the PAC-12 who like to play physical, run the ball, and play good defense. Ex-49er GM Scott McCloughan had a hand in building both teams.

If Denver beats Seattle, it’s fair to assume they would have beaten the 49ers, also. In which case, I’d be glad our boys didn’t go to the game this year and wind up losing for the second year in a row. That can be a heavy psychological burden for the future.

Conversely, however, if Seattle wins, it’s fair to assume the 49ers would have won, too, which would add yet another layer of disappointment to our season.

All of which puts us 49er fans in the strange position of having to root for Peyton Manning, the guy who spurned our advances two years ago, to take out the Seahawks since we failed to do so ourselves. Thus sending Seattle into the offseason gloom that we ourselves felt a year ago when our Super Bowl dreams went pfft. These bed liaisons can certainly get queasy.

The talk of the town lately has been Colin Kaepernick’s impending new contract. The problem with Colin is that he has elite skills, but is not an elite quarterback. Most people assume he eventually will become elite, but that’s not a given. With the exception of Tony Romo, all QBs getting elite money have actually won SBs. Kaepernick has had the ball in his hands at the end of the game with a chance to win the SB last year, and the NFC Championship this year, and both times he’s failed to get the job done. It’s hard to imagine Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck failing to deliver in these circumstances. In fact, Colin arguably hasn’t accomplished anything more with this team than Alex Smith would likely have accomplished — and maybe even less.

What we will be able to discover is just how hard a bargain Kaepernick and his agent drive. One that represents his accomplishments to date, or one that reflects what he might accomplish in the future, or what he might get from another team in free agency. It will tell us a lot about how much Colin values being on a great team versus how much value he places on his bank account.

The problem with paying one guy a sixth of the entire salary cap is that guy must BE the one who carries the team to the SB. Like Manning has done with Denver. The Broncos didn’t get here by playing great defense. Teams with elite money QBs can’t afford elite defenses, too. And no QB getting elite money has ever won a SB. They won SBs before they got the money. Perhaps Manning will be the first to win one AFTER getting the money.

In the meantime, we 49er fans will spend our 20th consecutive season sitting on the sofa watching some other franchise hoist the Lombardi. Sigh.





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128 comments on “Bystander Blues
  1. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    I’ve heard the site won’t go to this comment page. If true, nobody can read this comment. If false, can somebody leave a comment verifying they have gotten to this page? Thanks.

  2. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    On my tablet now,perhaps it’s just my pc.

  3. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    You forget Jay Cutler. He’s scheduled to make $22.4 mill this season. And your assumptions about Seattle and SF in this are very simplistic.

    It’s funny to hear Steve Young bemoan Kappy’s game when his career path was similar. THe big sadvantage Young had was he was working with some of the best offensive coaches out there in Walsh, Holmgren, and Shanny. Kappy has a run-first heaed coach, and a run-game OC. It’s getting harder for me to think these are the right coaches for Kaepernick to progress.

    I’ve said before, I’d love to see the Niners bring in Chris Ault to the team to open up the offense.

  4. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Huh?

  5. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Good start:

    “I think it’s a balance,” Kaepernick says of possible contract extension. Says he wants to be paid fairly but realizes others must be signed.

  6. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Just because the Bears and Jest give out foolish and regrettable contracts doesn’t mean the Niners have to take that path.
    Cutler’s salary is a joke because his backup outplayed him.
    Sanchez is going to be a very high priced benchwarmer.

  7. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Looking at these cap numbers Rogers is gone unless he agrees to a reduction which he nixed last year. Anthony Davis and his $7 mil seems a lot for his level of inconsistent effort week by week.

  8. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Lowell Cohn sez give him 6-7 mill. There’s a joke.

    I’d think mnore like 4/$64 but it ain’t my money.

    Those first 2 posts are interesting, no?

  9. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Rogers is gone. If Culliver comes back to full strength, and they sign Tarell Brown, they won’t need him. They are going to draft a CB or 2 besides. I’d keep Cox at this point.

  10. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Kap had some words to say about Dick Sherman:

    “Did that make you feel better about yourself? Then go ahead. Because I’m not worried about you,” Kaepernick said, via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post.

    Kaepernick had several other choice words for Sherman, including:

    — “He’s afraid of our receivers, and that’s something I’m looking forward to [exploiting] next year.”

    — “If I throw that ball one foot farther, it’s a TD and now you’re the goat, Richard Sherman.”

    — “His comments were ridiculous. If you have to tell people how good you are, then how good are you really?”

  11. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Kaep should zip it. He’s not playing so he should put a sock in it.

    More fodder for the rivalry I suppose.

  12. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    I agree – Yes, Sherman is a jackass, but responding to him only indicates he has gotten into your head. Best move for Kap, Crabs and the rest would be withering silence. Give your response on the field.

  13. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    LMJ is back on Twitter stating he wants out.
    With Lattimore he sees that he is the 3rd or 4th option.
    Going on Twitter and complaining isn’t going to move you up onthe depth chart.
    LMJ will always be a malcontent so you might get lucky if someone gives up a 3rd rd pick for him.
    No misunderstanding here, he msde it clear in his Tweets.

  14. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    LMJ is not big / tough enough and cannot block well enough to be anything more than a gadget / return specialist in this offense. IMHO we overdrafted him, for OUR system at least. We probably could have gotten a guy with many of the same skills LMJ has in the 5th or 6th round. A Trindon Holliday type. A Second round pick should be a guy you expect to start. Harbaugh and Baalke have made some really good picks in the draft and some head scratchers. I don’t agree with this one.

  15. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Lynch said awhile back that for all LMJ’s speed and moves, he lacked vision. Don’t have any way to verify that, but I thought it was interesting at the time.

  16. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    As a rb for the Niners if you can’t pass block and pick up a blitz you’re not going to play.
    LMJ might be in boat Taylor Mays was in and get rid of him. I know nobody will give much for him.
    Being real wishful thinking for a 5th rd pick.

  17. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Very interesting. The owner of the St Louis Rams, Stan Kroenke, just bought 60 acres of land next to Hollywood Park. I don’t know what that means but questions about the Rams moving back to LA will abound. Especially when you consider the Rams lease is up in St Louis after the 2014 season.

  18. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Rams in LA would respark the natural rivalry and make all NFC West games within 3 hours making the travel a heck of a lot easier.

  19. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Bergs, isn’t Hollywood Park closing? Does he own that?

  20. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think it said he bought a parking lot in between H park and the Forum. I got the info on PFT. It’s probably still there to read. He would probably need more land for a stadium but coincidently, H park just shut down. Hmmm!

  21. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    First slipup of offseason.
    Kilgore was arrested near his hometown in Tenn
    For public intoxication.
    Would it be too much to hope this is the last ofseason incident?

  22. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Public intoxication is OK. As long as he wasn’t driving or destroying property or roughing anybody up I wish I was there!

  23. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger
    You’re not a public figure that’ll make national heaflines (unless you made the FBI top ten)
    Kilgore represents the Niner brand so to get arrested he must have pissed somebody off.

  24. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Sounds like some overzealous southern cops.

    Better walking than driving.

  25. winderNo Gravatar says:

    skeebs- There is no way in hell Alex could have done the stuff Kap did to win some games this year. For one thing D’s would not have been looking for the read option. Kappy has choked in the most crucial times but he is still young and I don’t see a ceiling for him yet, for alex, yeah.

  26. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Another Kap interview this time with WSJ

  27. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kilgore’s arrest report seems like an overreaction by a cop.
    He was walking home from a bar drunk.
    Cop should have driven him home or called him a cab.
    Unless more comes out, this is a non story.

  28. Mr FletchNo Gravatar says:

    After serious deliberation, I have decided I am going to root for the Seahawks tomorrow. Before other Niners fans post ALL CAPS!!!!! diatribes, take a moment to consider my reasons.

    1 – I have a visceral dislike of Peyton Manning, the kind that in real life one only has for athletes, politicians and the writers of the last few seasons of Lost. I badly want to see him lose another Super Bowl, preferably by throwing a large number of interceptions. Joe Montana is the greatest quarterback of all time, not Captain Chickendance.

    2 – The Seahawks and the Niners are mirror image, hard core teams, built around a strong run game and a powerful defense. Denver is the worst kind of modern team, built around a powerful offense, but lacking any sort of defensive prowess. I want to see Niner-style football win out. That’s the Seahawks.

    3 – Yeah, Pete Carroll’s smug-face is profoundly annoying, but, let’s face it, Harbaugh’s sideline antics are hardly the epitome of professional restraint.

    4 – I hold no grudge’s from the NFC Championship game. The Seahawks were the better team that day. With two powerful defenses, it came down to offense. Wilson outplayed Kaepernick (who is not exactly making me more confident in his “elite quarterback” status with his recent comments about the game. Dude, you misread the defense, threw two killer interceptions and nearly had a third.) Lynch and the Seattle O-line outplayed Gore and the SF O-line. Yes, Lynch only had one big run, but that was a game-changer. Gore has thrived all year on games with a whole serious of 2-yard runs into the line, followed by one or two break aways on third down with the opposing D crowding the line.

    5 – No, Sherman’s post game statements don’t bother me. Sometimes adrenaline filled winners run their mouths. There are a lot of things to admire about the current incarnations of the Niners, but they are hardly the epitomes of good sportsmanship and classy actions before, during and after games. Before getting too self-righteous about Sherman’s speck, maybe the Niners ought to examine their planks. (Although, to be fair, there are probably enough planks between the two teams to build a whole neighborhood.)

    6 – If Seattle wins, it makes next season even more exciting. The Niners have to try to bump off the Super Bowl winners to reclaim the division crown. They have to really focus on their game. The coaches have to go back to the playbook, work harder on designing and implementing new plays and game plans. Also, winning Super Bowl teams often have a loss of focus the next year. That can only help.

    7 – Papa John’s makes crappy pizza.

  29. Mr FletchNo Gravatar says:

    Let me add, though, that me favorite outcome would be a Denver victory, despite Manning playing horribly, because Seattle gets called for every defensive hold and PI incident. Denver’s victory is tainted by the penalties, Seattle fans get to complain about the officiating in yet another Super Bowl and the Seahawks have to rethink the way their secondary plays defense.

  30. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If the Seahags win they would be insufferable.
    No thanks

  31. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    From a couple of weeks ago but shows how creative some guys are
    even if they are NFL fans in Austria
    http://www.dorkly.com/embed/58550/the-amazing-game-of-thrones-nfl-promo-from-austria

  32. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Looking at the Niner defensive backfield they will most likely
    bring back one of the vets between Whitner, T Brown and Rogers
    but at a cap friendly price.
    They need a vet back there and it has been well documented that Whitner mentored Reid and helped him immensely on the field.
    My gut tells me that Whitner will be back signing a cap friendly deal. Just want him to stick to football and forget that BS about
    changing his name to Hitner which is pure nonsense.

  33. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Mr Fletch- Very nicely laid out. Go Broncos!

  34. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- Thanks for posting the Kap interview. I enjoyed that.

  35. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle to win? Can’t do it. The Seahawk fans are totally insufferable as it is now. Wait til they actually do something.

  36. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Manning winning doesn’t concern me at all. He’ll never get to 4 super bowl wins, and his status among the great QBs will always be a notch below the true greats.

  37. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger
    Happy to share all things Niners mostly good sometimes not so much.

    If you are interested and have the time here’s a 42 min podcast
    interview with Kap.
    It has been noted he has been more media friendly this week and has changed from giving his 3 word responses post game.
    Kap might have realized that the media just conveys what he is saying and he’s actually talking to all the Niner followers after the game and can be more forthcoming.

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=10378495

  38. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    If you’re going to watch the Super Bowl you can play a drinking game.
    Everyone takes a shot or downs a beer when they hear “Omaha” “Skittles”, or every time they show Archie Manning,

  39. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    No 49ers made the Hall of Fame this year.

  40. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Just fix the spelling of the f word.

  41. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Eddie D didn’t make it?

  42. Mr FletchNo Gravatar says:

    unka_chuck – thanks for those. I got a great laugh. And, yeah, despite my posts earlier in the day, I’d love to see Carroll get beat, bad.

  43. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    If you’re going to watch the Super Bowl you can play a drinking game. Everyone takes a shot or downs a beer when they hear “Omaha” “Skittles”, or every time they show Archie Manning.

    That game’s for light weights. Step up to the Big Boy table and take a shot or down a beer whenever you hear the words, “to,” “be,” “or,” and “not.”

    To be or not to be drunk? That is the question.
    And there’s only one correct answer.

  44. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    So when Peyton Manning is named Super Bowl MVP tomorrow, just fall in line behind your fearless leader and goose step like good little 49er Nazi’s and acknowledge that I was right all along.

    Did we sign Peyton Manning yet? We did? Sieg Heil!

  45. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    I might need to rethink my wanting Denver to win.

  46. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t know what’s more pathetic: the fact that the NFL is conducting a celebrity, “Beach Bowl” representing our police and fire departments, or the fact that I’m actually watching it?

    I think it’s the “ladder.” Hose me down.

  47. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    This game means absolutely nothing to me.
    They can both lose for all I care.

    It’s hard enough to deal with getting to within one game of repeating a SB visit, quite another to know our most hated Division rival is playing in my backyard.

    Even more embarrassing, is the fact that we NJ taxpayers have to pick up legal expenses for that tub of lard Governor of ours, while he gets to frolic around the SB festivities with his man crush, Jerruh Jones.

    Not into this SB, at all, even a little.

  48. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. Quite the clusterf*ck NJ, eh? Yeah, the idea of getting so close again is great and awful all in the same breath.

  49. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t know if you saw this but heres what Like Kuechly had to say to NaVorro Bowman after Kuechly won the AP DPOY:

    You got robbed. I wanted you to win. You should have. It’s weird and it sucks that I robbed you. I was going to call you, but I’ve heard you’re still in agonizing pain after tearing two knee ligaments. (How the hell did you hold onto the ball, btw?) Anyway you know what it is. Congrats on this year and your team beating the living snot out of us in the playoffs. Appreciate you as a player and as a friend. Much love

    What’s even crazier is Bowman wasn’t even in the top 5.

  50. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh Chuck, Christie legal costs are already being reported as $650/Hr.
    Clusterf*ck is an understatement.

    Classy of Kueckly to acknowledge NaVorro too.
    What’s a bigger mystery to me is, no one on the National Platform even cast a vote for NaVorro.
    Totally biased.

    Stat-wise, NaVorro out performed Kueckly too.
    It is what it is, a popularity contest among writers that are for the most part, clueless.

  51. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Didn’t get the chance to respond to your reply regarding the value of Kaep going down if Wilson wins tomorrow.

    My feelings are, Wilson would garner a higher extension price in that scenario.
    Also, Seattle has deeper concerns with others on their Roster.
    We have the ability to allocate more Cap money to Kaep too.
    It’ll be a challenge, especially if Kaeps’ Agent looks for crazy money.

    I don’t see this as a contencious process just yet.
    At least until we hear something regarding the Agent’s asking price.

  52. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Super Bowl Sunday is here but Niner fans are a morose bunch this morning.
    A first for Super Bowl on the singing of the national anthem

  53. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Kawakami had some interesting things to say about Kap’s contract
    Niners can actually have him play another 4 years through 2017 without a new contract being signed. Not ideal but that gives the Niner FO more leverage.
    “If the 49ers and Kaepernick can’t get to an agreeable number, the 49ers have the leverage of knowing that they have Kaepernick at a very cheap price in 2014, and if there’s no extension, they can franchise-tag him for 2015 and 2016 and then can hold him even in 2017 because there are special provisions for QBs.

    Going year by year with franchise-tags isn’t cheap — the franchise-tag salary number for QBs will probably exceed $16M in 2015—but it’s the going rate for very good QBs and the 49ers can afford it.”
    “At the very least, York and Baalke can afford to keep that option in their pocket heading into the talks with Kaepernick this off-season. They do not have to pay him long-term money yet because Kaepernick isn’t at that point in his career or his contract.

    If the 49ers throw $18M a year at Kaepernick now, for 7 years… what happens if things go sour in 2014? They’re stuck. I’m not saying the 49ers believe it’ll go sour, but I’m saying there’s no reason for them to avoid protecting themselves against that possibility now.”

    http://www.mercurynews.com/tim-kawakami/ci_25028109/kawakami-colin-kaepernick-taking-smart-approach-contract-talks

    The way Baalke and Marathe operate they’ll figure out a deal that benefits the team and takes care of Kap.
    They might follow the path of the Packers who signed Rodgers
    to a reasonable deal in 2008 and rewarded him with a much richer deal in 2013. That 2008 deal allowed them to win a Super Bowl.

  54. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I’m thinking of putting a goal post in my yard to keep the Seahawks out of my house!

  55. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    IMO the SB pre game shows (all six hours or so) big waste of time.
    Watching this will just numb you for the game and I’m not interested in what Dick Sherman’s 4th grade teacher thinks of him.
    One hour of good informative content trumps 5 extra hours of fluff, especially with the countdown ticker to kickoff.

  56. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    In case you missed this

  57. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Skuta and Lemonier did a decent job filling in for Aldon when he took his leave to go to rehab.
    When Aldon returned it seemed Lemonier was odd man out and his playing time was confined to special teams.
    Hope his hard work in the off season will lead to a bigger role and getting into the rotation next year and showing his pass rushing ability which we saw flashes of.

  58. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Andre Reed got in over both Tim Brown and Marvin Harrison.
    That’s like inducting either of the Bush’s into the GOP HOF over Reagan.
    What a joke.

  59. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Del- I think your phone isn’t working? Give me a call.

  60. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Either of the Bush’s what? And who’s the Bush?

    The HOF is more of a joke every year they keep Haley out. Stupid politics is all we have there now. “Five rings? Who cares he was mean to a guy I know.” Burn it down.

    A lesser talent plays longer and on a stat favorable team, he’s a lock. Yeah, I’m looking at you Mr.lay-down-sack-record.

  61. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Philip Seymour Hoffman passed away this morning. He was only 46-years-old. That’s younger than I am. Way too good of an actor much too early to leave us. The world just lost another Baird man. That pisses me off.

    If I were the man I was five years ago, I’d take a…
    [slams his Bud Light can on the desk, screaming] FLAMETHROWER to this place!

  62. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    No shit, NoFear. Tim Brown has what, 150 more catches and 13 more TDs than Andre Reed? It’s a fricking popularity contest.

  63. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    A song for Phillip. RIP.

  64. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Not sure what happened there.

  65. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    More fun & games on Dick Sherman
    Caliendo mocks everyone
    Holy crap Denny, Dick is leapfrogging Tommy Brady.

  66. Grumpy GuyNo Gravatar says:

    First time in a while I just cannot generate any enthusiasm for watching the Super Bowl. I don’t much like the Broncos, and I hate the Squawks. Meh. I wish both teams could lose. And get off my lawn.

  67. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I saw that Caliendo skit live this morning. He NAILED IT!
    Not only hilarious, but from a purely impersonation standpoint it was his best work ever. Loved his Chris Berman. Voice was uncanny.

  68. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    We had another death today, RIP L. Shelton. He was only with us for a few brief, but precious moments. [inside joke with Berger]

  69. NoFear49erNo Gravatar says:

    Can’t help but get all choked up when another elitist throws his life away.

    A life squandered is a tragedy. Anybody hear anything about this guy?

    http://bit.ly/1agcb3X

  70. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NYPD unofficially says Hoffman died of a heroin overdose.
    There was a needle in his arm and heroin was found next to him.
    Can’t feel sorry for guys who have it made, have talent and stupidly waste it away on a drug overdose.

  71. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Did you guys know that the Hallmark Channel is showing a Kitten Bowl? John Sterling, longtime voice of the NY Yankees, is calling the action.

    Tabby wins. Tabby wins. Theeeeeeeeeee Tabby wins!

  72. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Denny

    If you watch “Nature” this week on PBS
    the feature is ducks narrated by Paul Giamatti.

    Also

  73. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Gee Bullitt, he didn’t die the right way for you to care? I’m sure Edgar Allen Poe is spinning in his grave.

  74. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Berger, Jack, he of the box, will be launching his SB commercial featuring his new Bacon Insider™ It’s pork inside beef. “Moink!” But I’ve already seen it. Pisses me off that the big corporations are leaking out their new SB commercials to media outlets BEFORE the Super Bowl. Is nothing sacred?

    ***FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY***

    I will entertain myself with these SB prop bets…

    M. Lynch 94 1/2 yds rushing: UNDER
    P. Harvin 51 1/2 yds receiving: UNDER
    Manning 290 1/2 yds passing: OVER
    Moreno 60 1/2 yds rushing: OVER
    Welker 59 1/2 yds receiving: OVER
    Will Welker score a 1st half TD? +270: YES

  75. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I just became the biggest Renée Fleming. That was a fantastic rendition of our National Anthem. Proud to be American.

  76. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    FWIW: Peyton Manning’s 34, Sherman and all the other Dicks 17.
    Denver’s D plays a big part in the game. Maybe even a score themselves.

  77. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Now we all know what Eric Mangini is doing today: he’s up in the Seahawks booth in charge of replays.

  78. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Now Mangini has moved over to the Broncos’ replay booth.
    The POS gets around, I’ll give ‘em that.

  79. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. Denver looks like dogshit. Manning reverts to playoff form.

  80. robNo Gravatar says:

    omg what am i doing here im going to mcdonalds

  81. robNo Gravatar says:

    told u seattle would win !

  82. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    I know Seattle’s D is great, but I’d swear they have at least 13 guys on the field today. They’re all over the place.

  83. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    Get ready for a whole lot of Marshawn Lynch.

  84. Unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Peyton’s place certainly isn’t the Super Bowl.

  85. robNo Gravatar says:

    greatest QB of all time lol

  86. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle winning the SB means they get to host the season opener on Thursday night to kick off the 2014 year. Great chance the Niners will be their opponent.

    0-1

  87. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Pete Carroll has now won a National Championship at USC and a Super Bowl in Seattle.

    Jim Harbaugh? He wears khakis and cleats.

  88. Del Mar DennisNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle: Better head coach. Better starting QB. Better defense. Younger team.

    49ers: We got a shiny new stadium.

  89. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Once again, Defense beats Offense.
    Though we didn’t get it done, we proved that the NFC West IS the best Division in the NFL.

    Denver was tippy toeing around in fear all night.
    We need a Secondary that can play Press-Man.
    We’re not far off the mark.

  90. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think with a better play caller we are better than Seadderall. With our current offensive philosophy, Seadderall is better.

  91. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Seattle plays a much better Defensive scheme.
    Press-Man coverage absolutely destroyed the rhythm Peyton makes his living with.

    Hats off to them, they got it done.

  92. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    None of Seadderall’s CBs were drafted before the 4th round. They drafted 1 safety in the 1st round and no other DB before the 4th round. Following that logic, why would we daft a CB in rd 1? I’m just asking since people are worshiping their CBs. Obviously they don’t need to be taken in the 1st couple of rounds if Seadderall is the template.

  93. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Gotta give the Seahags props for their beatdown of the Broncos.
    Manning makes $200K more per game than Russell Wilson does for the entire season.

  94. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Niner’s potential starting CBs are Culliver and Brock and Culliver was a 3rd rd pick. T Brown was picked in the 5th rd.
    Baalke is able to identify db talent.

  95. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- I’ve been wanting a WR or CB in the 1st round. I am questioning even my own opinion taking a CB in rd 1.

  96. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    We got Reid as a mid 1, as Seattle did with Earl Thomas.
    For me, the FS is even more important than a CB.
    I see plenty of depth in the CB group this year, Rds 3-5 could still produce some gems.
    We need physical WRs and CBs that can play Press-Man IMO.

    I’d still go BPA at Pick 30 however.
    If it’s DLine, so be it.
    Take value there.
    We need what Seattle has in terms of the front 4.
    Good rotation, good pressure, good run-stuffers.

    The more I shop the Draft Bio’s, the more I like Aaron Donald the under-sized DT from Pitt.

    He’s akin to stopping a hedgehog with his A$$ on fire.

  97. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    The only CB worthy of a #1 pick IMO is Dennard.
    For me a #1 drafted CB must be a shutdown corner that can contribute at least as a nickel back as a rookie.
    #1 picks in the last draft Dee Millner and DJ Hayden proved disappointing and identifying CBs might be as perplexing as WRs.
    With that said Niners need to draft BPA between WR/CB.

  98. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger should be in love with the Bronco NT Terance Knighton.
    That guy can play and he has a big fat ass (we know berger is an ass man). He’s listed at 295 but looking at him he’s got to be at least 330 of which 50 lbs is ass based.
    Denver signed him as a FA from the Jags and that was a good move.

  99. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Giving up on next year, Dennis? Getting an early start, I see. Did someone slaughter Peyton Manning yet?

  100. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Peyton got abused by a good Defense.
    Thought I heard him audible OMG,OMG a few times tonight.

    Anyone else?

  101. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit I’m guilty of wanting the Channel Marker NT too.
    Fat Man in the Middle to clog things up has always been the model of the 3-4 NT for me.

    Seems I’m showing my age perhaps?
    Fangio is happy to have those squatty little 300Lb guys with short legs to do the dirty work inside.

    Whatever works….

  102. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Which is why I’m leaning a little more heavily toward DT Aaron Donald from Pitt.
    Busy little dude that no one can contain.

  103. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    NJ- Aaron Donald is going to be a 4-3 DT or a 3-4 DE. I think he’ll be a decent player from what I’ve read. I’ve only read about him. I need to watch some footage to get a better idea.

  104. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    NJ

    Two similar guys Reggie McGrew and Anthony Adams taken in rds 1 and 2 didn’t work out. That’s why the draft is a crapshoot.
    I love the fact that teams desperate for QBs will drop some quality guys down our way.
    I am happy for now with Dorsey and Ian Williams at NT.
    Jerod-Eddie is a surprise and a keeper. Want there to be room for Dial and Okoye to get their chance where drafting someone high pushes them down on the depth chart and cuts into their playing time.

  105. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Of course McGrew and Adams were from about 10 years ago.
    Just trying to say they didn’t work out as hoped for the Niners although Adams continues to play for the Bears.

  106. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    I think we have a player on the team who will be able to take over for Justin in another year. Quinton Dial. He as size and athleticism. I’d like to see if he can bull rush but I know he can do everything else. He’s not great at any one thing but he is well balanced and solid all around. Justin Smith is one of the great bull rushers of all time. That is the one thing that will be very hard to replace.

  107. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Berger

    Justin Smith or Tomsula needs to teach Dial or Carradine the technique of holding two Olinemen to free up Aldon or Brooks.

  108. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- McGrew was always hurt. We never got to see what we drafted. Adams was a very good DT. Nolan grossly misused him. He left here and played great for the Bears.

  109. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I agree Bullit.
    Many of these rotational guys could be had later too.

    With 12 Picks, it’s ammo to trade up with as well.
    Seattle spent FA money on Bennett and Avril.
    We could obtain similar guys via the Draft at much better prices.

    I’m expecting them to concentrate on the WR/DB areas in May.
    Wouldn’t be surprised to see them acquire a pair of both.

    Tank and Dial are likely in line to replace Justin and RayMcD.
    Having another DT inside wouldn’t hurt, as Dorsey isn’t a pup anymore.
    Okoye is still raw in terms of development too.

    As I’ve mentioned, a ‘tweener’ like Shazier, could provide some help within our Nickel Pkg too, as Fangio likes to lighten the Box on passing downs.

    The more you watch Chancellor, the more I like the idea of bigger DBs playing in the middle of the field.
    A SS is easier to find than a quality FS IMO.

    Reid was a good catch for us.

  110. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Justin Gilbert begs to differ. He likely goes top 10. Love to get him but there’s no shot. Dennard may last til the 2nd round. People already question Dennard’s athleticism and coverage skills. He addressed this by bailing on the Senior Bowl. He might be too high as a late 1st. Stanley Baptiste is an interesting guy. Sherman size. 6’3″ 215. Played press-cover well in Neb. Ran a 4.46 40. He may go early but he’s projected late 1st, early 2nd.

    Anyone talking about Justin Ellis? He graded out well at the Senior Bowl. Your fat boy, NJ. Quick for a big dude. Close to 350. Maybe one of our 3rds.

  111. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I also could see Dobbs getting challenged for his spot on the DLine with some younger talent Bullit.
    For me, the Draft is where you have to be strong.

    Rotational guys via the Draft are much cheaper than spending in FA.
    If Iupati is expecting too much, having Kilgore or Looney in the wings buys time.
    Iupati also commands a higher Comp Pick if he defects.

  112. BergerNo Gravatar says:

    Bullit- That is not exactly how it works. Holding up two players doesn’t do anything for a pass rush. Smith pushes OTs back into the QB. It is a skill not many in the history of football can do. It absolutely creates double team blocks coming at him. Don’t expect Dial to be able to do that. If he could he would have been drafted in the first round.

    Holding up two players is something I have seen Dial do in the running game. He’s pretty good at that as well as getting a little pass rush generated. I would compare Dial to Red Bryant. I would be happy if he could come close to that. If you want another Justin Smith he will need to be taken in Rd 1 and the last player available in the draft like that was JJ Watt. They don’t come around every year. One guy this year who is kind of similar is a NT. His name is Nix and he is very similar to BJ Raji.

  113. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Yeh Chuck, I’ve been combing through 100s of prospect rankings.

    I’m also leaning toward Stanley Jean-Baptist as a taller CB.
    Kenny Ladler from Vandy is interesting as a SS option too.
    My list is heavy on WR and DBs right now.
    Combines will show more about how they look athletically.

    Several small school guys look interesting to me.
    CB Pierre Desir from Lindenwood,CB Ross Cockrell from Duke,DT Zach Kerr from Delaware among others.

    Later Rd developmental-type guys, to offset the higher dollar guys we’d likely want to retain, for a few more years.

    TBrock is a good example of those small school guys that stuck it out and made it.

    Better to go that route then to spend high and miss IMO.

  114. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Chuck

    Flip flopping again? Last month you discounted the significance of Quinton Patton improving his draft stock at last year’s Senior Bowl workouts when I brought it up.
    Now you’re 180 degrees opposite and citing how players did in this year’s Senior Bowl?
    You are just trying to be a troll as usual I see.

  115. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Maiocco just posted this tonight about Kap’s last pass in the NFCCG
    “Colin Kaepernick made the decision pre-snap to throw to Michael Crabtree, matched in single coverage against Richard Sherman, in the end zone on a stop-and-go route. The mistake was not the decision to challenge Sherman. The mistake that Kaepernick made was that he immediately telegraphed the throw. When he locked onto that throw, it gave linebacker Malcolm Smith enough time to trail the play to get into position for the interception. If Kaepernick had just given a quick glance to the left side, Smith would have been frozen and there’s no way he would’ve gotten to the spot in time to intercept the pass. It would have been an incompletion, and the 49ers would’ve had a couple more chances.”

    I said that last week, even if it’s a presnap read you still can’t telegraph your intent and alert the db you’re coming his way. IMO one of the subtle nuances of good QBing is looking off DBs or in this case the LB. Something Kap needs to work on and master to get better as a QB.

  116. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    That’s the knock on Kaep Bullit.
    He’s far from a complete QB at this point.
    He relies on primary reads too often and doesn’t survey the field properly.

    He’s quick to read once and run IMO.
    He’s got to develop patience in order to make this Offense more prolific.
    Sure, we’re going to debate the Roman Jumbo and all that fodder but, Kaep has to develop into more of a complete QB.

    I’d read, and heard him admit, that he saw the matchup pre-snap and made up his mind he was going that way.

    Bad decision?
    Certainly.
    Worse yet is, ignoring other options in the process.

    This is the major concern with respect to his future Contract expectations.

  117. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Also read that he was putting the blame on the SB loss with Harbaugh for calling the time out.
    Fact is, Harbaugh saved the loss of 5 yards for the delay of game.

    Kaep, or his Agent, had better not feel as though he’s arrived just yet.
    He’s got a lot to learn.

  118. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Many are quick to point at the lack or WRs being an issue too.
    In the final formation in Seattle he locked onto 1, and only 1.
    As he did in the SB.

    Not going to fool many of the better Defenses doing that.
    I’ve gone on record suggesting that the team should extend him long term if able.
    He’s shown enough of the ‘It’ factor for me to think he’s worth keeping.

    It’s also dependent on him to improve on these deficiencies as well.

  119. bullitNo Gravatar says:

    Mayock compares Donald to Geno Atkins

  120. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    I have no problem with that comparison Bullit.
    Donald is relentless.
    Perhaps the shorter guys possess an advantage when the bigger guys can’t get their hands on them?

    All I can say is, he’s worthy of consideration, if he’s on the Board for us at Pick 30.

    I’m impressed because he doesn’t quit, much like Justin, only more compact in size.

  121. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Looking at a guy like Seattle LB Malcom Smith.
    A 7th Rd Draft Pick.
    6’0″ 226
    Nothing spectacular Bio-wise.
    As we know now, he might’ve made the play of the game in Seattle a couple of weeks ago.
    He’s a SB MVP now as well.

    Perhaps we strike similar gold with 6th Rd Pick, Nick Moody from FSU?
    Sometimes these late Rd guys make more of an impact then most Draft Experts can even begin to think about.

    Doesn’t cost you anything in terms of Cap money to take a few shots with Draft Picks.
    It’s all on the Scouts and the GM to uncover these guys.

  122. NJ49erNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting too is, Moody played S at one point.
    Hard to know what the future holds.

  123. SkeebersNo Gravatar says:

    New post is up.

  124. unca_chuckNo Gravatar says:

    Yes, NJ, it’s incumbent on Kappy to get better at progressions. However, it’s also on the coaches to design better passing plays.

    Hey, Bullitt, you continue to whine like a bitch, I’ll treat you like one. Yes, I can tout the rising NT from his senior bowl success. Why? Because I can. You seem to revel in these supposed gotcha moments. Yay Buwwitt! You are so cool!

    Get a life, dipstick. Or better yet try posting on my site without your usual hidden agenda. Chickenboy.

2014 49er Free Agents
Anquan Boldin (re-signed)
Donte Whitner (to Cleveland)
Jonathan Goodwin
Mario Manningham (to Giants)
Phil Dawson (re-signed)
Tarell Brown (to Oakland)
Colt McCoy (to Washington)
Perrish Cox (re-signed)
Anthony Dixon (to Buffalo)
Eric Wright (re-signed)
Kassim Osgood (re-signed)
Demarcus Dobbs (RFA) (tendered)
Michael Wilhoite (RFA) (tendered)

2013 Schedule
1. GB (W 34-28)
2. at SEA (L 3-29)
3. IND (L 7-27)
4. at STL (W 35-11)
5. HOU (W 34-3)
6. AZ (W 32-20)
7. at TEN (W 31-17)
8. at JAC (W 42-10)
9. BYE
10. CAR (L 9-10)
11. at NO (L 20-23)
12. at WAS (W 26-7)
13. STL (W 23-13)
14. SEA (W 19-17)
15. at TB (W 33-14)
16. ATL (W 34-24)
17. at AZ (W 23-20)

Playoffs
at Green Bay (W 23-20)
at Carolina (W 23-10)
at Seattle (L 17-23)
 
2013 Prognostications
Dennis: 9-7
Berger: 12-4
Grumpy: 11-5
Rob: 13-3
Skeebers: 12-4
NJ49er: 10-6
Winder: 11-5
Tony: 14-2
Earl: 13-3
Mr Fletch: 11-5
Barley: 11-5
Spitblood: 16-0
Other Dennis: 11-5
Chuck: 12-3-1
Bullit: 12-4
BigJon49er: 13-3

2013 Draft Class
1 Reid, Eric FS
2 Carradine, Tank DE
2 McDonald, Vance TE
3 Lemonier, Corey DE
4 Patton, Quinton WR
4 Lattimore, Marcus RB
5 Dial, Quinton DE
6 Moody, Nick OLB
7 Daniels, B.J. QB
7 Bykowski, Carter OT
7 Cooper, Marcus CB